Just finished SoJ. Overall, one of the better games in the series.

Also, not sure why they didn't just split episode 5 into two, unless they really didn't want to get our hopes up of having future games be of equal length.

>>389291365
The comedy skits aren't worth it, watch them on youtube.
For better or for worse, the DLC case is a total throwback to the original trilogy (Phoenix for the Defense, Maya assisting, Edgeworth for the Prosecution).
I enjoyed it, others did not.

Takumi and Yamazaki who's better?

>>389291715
How can Edgeworth justify going against Phoenix in court at this point? Muh truth?

>>389292023
Doing his job.

>>389291909
Takumi no doubt, but Yamazaki certainly has high points. Investigations being one of them.

>>389292023
The usual, they both know their back-and-forth in court inevitably leads to the truth.

>>389291715
Thanks Anon, good to know. I liked DD's DLC case, so if it's around the same level I'm down.

While we're on the topic, what's the point of DLC costumes? Has anyone played the 3DS games more than once?

>>389291715
Don't forget, The Butz as a witness.

>>389292274
Edgeworth nervous too fucking much. He's more competent when playing as him in AA3.

>>389291365
>Is the DLC worth buying?

The case itself is pretty lame 2bh

I think the DLC case is okay but it's probably the worst case in SoJ. Whereas I felt the DLC case in DD was the best case in DD.

Idol case when?

I wanna lick Robin's naked body from top to bottom.

>>389293401
Gay

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>>389293401

How is DGS2?

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It's been ten goddamn years and they're still stringing along this mystery parentage bullshit.
Why is this allowed?

>>389294306
NEVER EVER

>>389292554
the only time Edgeworth has actually contributed positively to a case is 2-4

>>389294373
It's more fun when they eventually dating.

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>>389294905
And also every other case he appears in?

>>389294373
Phoenix and Thalassa justify it at the end of AA6 as not wanting to spring it on them until they've grown enough, and they agree they have by now. I think it makes the most sense with Trucy since she turns 18 in the next game and she'll freely be able to decide whether to remain with Phoenix or go live with her birth mother.

>>389295757
They were clearly trying to ship Athena and Apollo. Although I'm interested as to what they'll do with Athena without Apollo around, assuming they maintain his temporary leave in the next game.

>>389294373
Literally next game.
Thalassa will probably die before she gets the chance.

>>389296315
I'm assuming she'll mostly interact with Trucy and Blackquill. Would be cool if they brought Juniper back too.

>>389295831
he actively obstructs the truth in every other case hes prosecuting in barring 2-4

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So /v/, your main task for AA7 is to give Athena character development. What do you do?

>>389296058
Implying that Trucy would have any hesitation over choosing between the father figure she's had since like 9 and consistently calls Daddy and some weird singer she met literally once.

>>389296546
>What is 5-5

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>>389296614
Take Widget away. Forever.

>>389296614
reveal that her birth dad is Zak

>>389296614
Establish her at the beginning as wanting to prove herself just like Apollo did, both to Phoenix and Blackquill in her case. Phoenix lets her handle an important case and she manages to solve it with some help from Blackquill (not to the extent of 6-4). Flashback case to when she and Phoenix first met in Europe which goes partially unresolved and serves as a lead-in to the final case where Blackquill is on the prosecution's side. She wins without anyone's help and is recognized as an ace attorney herself.

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>>389296614
Pair her with Blackquill and work on what has been established already for her backstory, not adding a bunch of shit on her past that has never been mentioned or referenced before.

Maybe something like the meeting of someone from when she was studying abroad.

>>389296614
Reveal that she is actually a robot created by her "mother" and Aura

Quick, you've just been assigned the task of writing the last case in the series. Who dies, who killed them and why?

>>389292023
Story reason is the case is high-profile and everyone else at the office was afraid of taking it. Makes Blackquill kinda look like a bitch but it is what it is.

Miles himself is actually almost AA1 levels of aggressive until near the end, then he's all MUH TRUTH.

>>389297630
but that's retarded

>>389292023
gameplay-wise, it was because Sadmadhi was in Kurain and they needed a prosecutor that was already 3D modeled

>>389297826
Whatever the final case is, it has to be huge. We're talking like, Edgeworth dies or something.

>>389298325
i think gumshoe needs putting out of his misery more

>>389298590
>389298590
>Gumshoe murdered by Edgeworth
>Phoenix has to struggle with whether he cares more about justice or his best friend.
>Apollo and Athena grow the fuck up and smack Wright's shit in for even thinking about not going for justice.

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>>389297902
>MUH TRUTH
He is precious and deserves to be protected

>>389298731
>larry and gumshoe both get sick of edgey's shit and team up to kill him

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Someone post this guy’s animations

>>389297826
Pearl, Maya, Tragic Accident

Phoenix, Edgeworth, Scapegoat for dark age of the law reform

Maya, Phoenix, Self-defense

Maya, Iris, Phoenix-lust

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>>389291365

I liked the DLC just fine. Not groundbreaking or anything, but good enough.

Plus it's nice to see Maya being more then a complete burden for once.

>>389298942
I almost fell for this blatant red herring til i thought to myself "wait then what was the fucking point of balloon tits clown?"

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>>389291909

Takumi, no question.

...well, at least when he's not burdened with marketing demands to shill shit and bring back characters who didn't need to return.

>>389299289
>TellTaleGames.jpg

>>389291365
Why does she need knee pads if she is in a wheelchair?

I'm kind of sad that SoJ didn't have a nice little reunion scene where a spirit medium channeled Mia and we'd get to see Maya, Mia and Pearl all together for a moment while this plays:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGwNdWkGpK4

Do you think Mia is enjoying eternally cucking Dahlia in the afterlife?

>>389299289
Wasn't the jurist system ending also forced to him by the higher ups because real life Japan was testing jurors at the time?

>>389299289
>pic related
>"Hm, this girl is clearly innocent and fighting for life right now, I could plead not guilty and give her some hope and strenght, but on the other hand I loved whenever my husband acted like a dick towards others for no reason and I kinda want to feel the same exhilaration he did."

>>389299450
A E S T H E T I C

Literally. Same reason she has a helmet. She's a Militariboo

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>>389291909
Takumi writes better characters, Yamazaki better pure cases. It shows that Takumi's best cases of the various games tend to be character based, while Yamazaki's tend to be plot-based.

That said, they're both great and I don't mind either at the wheel. I do kind of want Capcom to give Takumi free reign again for something like Ghost Trick, though.

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>>389299850
Oh man, this wasn't the webm I was thinking of, but alright

>>389297826
>>389298325
Gumshoe makes sense. He's thoroughly sympathetic and well-liked, and would make for a great emotional hook.

>>389299850
I agree, but I think Takumi's best moments excluding 2-4 (which would be 1-4, 3-5 and the entirety of Ghost Trick) managed to have equally great and memorable plot and characters, just like Yamazaki's best (all of AAI2) was not only amazing in in terms of plot, but characters too.

>>389300098
I think that the strength of all those cases you mentioned hinges more on the characters (ESPECIALLY 3-5, but also cases like the third case of PLvPW). But yeah, you're right, of course one can't function without the other - the best cases have both.

It's weird sometimes because in some cases it's reversed, like in AAI2-3 where the characters are fantastic but the plot is fucking awful.

>>389300093
Except for the fact that he's already dead

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>>389299664

Yeah, the Japanese law system was handing out grants to media companies that advertised it in a positive manner so Capcom jumped on that gravy train when Takumi pitched his idea for an AA4 to them.

They also required Phoenix (or at least some older characters) to be in the game to attract older fans.

Takumi later admitted he had a tough time putting both of these demands into the game.

I suppose after that he just said, "Screw it, let Yamazaki handle this shit, good luck with that."

>>389300265
>implying he's not just making dozens of welfare babies with Maggey

>>389300250
>It's weird sometimes because in some cases it's reversed, like in AAI2-3 where the characters are fantastic but the plot is fucking awful.
Von Karma coming out of a castle made of frosting was the finest moment in Ace Attorney.

>>389300342
In concept it kind of worked, though - almost. Kristoph as a staunch conservative who does not want to change as the villain, only to be upended by the changing system, was a great idea. It just ended up being kind of badly done gameplay-wise.

>>389300440
Implying Maggey wouldn't immediately get Gumshoe killed in a tragic accident

>>389300250
i think people's problem with AAI2-3 is that it's the most important case in the series (the direct cause of DL-6) and it's just some asshole baker killing another asshole baker for reasons i can barely remember

>>389300460
Yeah, that's what I mean. The plot then goes into dessert-making-but-actually-it's-pharamaceutics-no-wait-it-isn't-oh-yes-it-is crap which got kind of frustrating. I feel like the emotional beats (horrible dads in the game based around dads being fought by good dads) worked well but the plot surrounding it felt stupid.

>>389300651
In the end the motive was really just dumb pride, which is fine, it didn't need to be a mastermind move because the follow-up (DL6 and messy law) is more important. The Von Karma murdering Gregory outcome didn't really need that particular case, it could've been anything they fought over.

Which was the best AA composer?

>>389301074
Sugimori

>>389301074
whoever did AA1

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>>389301074
>>389301197

This

Why is there no romance in my AA

At this point, I even accept Phoenix x Iris or Phoenix x Maya even though they're one of the worst pairings.

>>389301074
Toss up between Iwadare and Horiyama
I'm extremely biased towards Iwadare though since I grew up listening to his work on Game Arts RPGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ73AT6KIWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fia7PLOF7yw

I freaking love his chime trills

>>389301367
Because then something has to be canon and they can't throw in a random love interest from the past in another game

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>>389291365
When will his suffering end?

>>389301367
I'm half expecting something really shitty, like Phoenix x Lamiroir

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>>389300497

About that though, what bothers me is how they made the jurists system seem easily exploitable, what with Phoenix giving the jury a digital simulation of his personal investigation, giving Vera a sob story and showing how much of an evil mastermind Kristoph was.

And then there's Kristoph who's depected as a strawman who can't handle change, and who flat-out insults the jury, with one of the jurists being the widow of one of his victims, yeah I'm sure that didn't sway their vote at all.

It's really hard to tell if this was satire by the writers, trying to cleverly show how corrupt a jury system can be while pretending to praise the effectiveness of the system, or if the controversy of all this went past their heads.

>>389301703
nah, need to keep those rabid phoenix x edgeworth shippers clinging on

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Best dad

>>389301851
I think it's just badly written near the end there, no ulterior motive involved

>>389301851
i think it was genuinely to avoid bullshit like Tigre almost getting away because of shit like "yeah i met with the victim at the time of death and the judge knows i impersonated you in court to frame the defendant but prove i poisoned his cup tho"

But i think they just didn't handle it well

>>389301851
Isn't DGS which brings back the jurist system said it was ruled by emotions?

>>389301703
>>389301853
I feel like they're pandering to PxE and PxM shippers until the franchise dies out. Then finally they'll reveal who he truly loves.

Charley__.

>>389302031
how the fuck did they manage to rip all those animations

>>389302065
>>389302073
>Apollo borrows Kristoph's animations and goes "evidence is everything in court" in the very next game
Weird how they ignored it to the point of seeming deliberately non-canon.

>>389302031
The server literally turned plebbit tier

>>389301675
Well, he's still got Trucy, Nahyuta, and Phoenix (and to a lesser extent Athena, Lamiroir, and Rayfa?). So unless they pull out another family member/friend he deeply cares about but never mentioned, at least three more games if they only kill off one per game, max 6.

>>389302183
>tfw no Phoenix x _Charley_ doujins
>tfw no good AA doujins at all, besides Love Junkie

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>>389302031

>sends Apollo off to America without any explanation
>allows Nahyuta to stay with him, resulting in him getting captured by Ga'ran to be her puppet
>tries to save Maya without any means of defending himself
>endangers his Apollo's life three times
>endangers Maya's life a shitton of times while he;s borrowing her body
>doesn't tell Apollo important information about the case, but allows Apollo to take the case
>flat-out lies to him by saying he's "dying" rather then just dead
>escapes from the trial, putting Apollo and Phoenix's lives at risk AGAIN

Yeah, father of year he is.

If not for having just enough genuinely likeable things about him and his big "Dragon never yields" line, people would consider him just as bad a dad as Zak.

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>>389302629
>implying Dokubotsu Coffee isn't amazing
>implying it doesn't need a good translation

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most infuriating moment
Ema saying 'he was stabbed in the back' when the autopsy says it was the front, yet you get a penalty for presenting, is also a contender

>>389302629
Do you really want to see Phoenix stick his dick into a pot of dirt

>>389292023
>Muh truth?
Yes.

>>389302719
I love tsundere Dahlia.

>>389302504
>lamiroir dies before the reveal
>apollo and trucy hate phoenix forever
>trucy commits suicide
>klavier commits suicide
>apollo goes to the moon

>>389302629
>This will never be scanned
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=41126750

>>389302504
if not for the seance confirming his death, i would have jokingly suggest his birth dad coming back before being killed. in front of him. on his birthday.

>>389302938
It's what Clay would have wanted.

>>389302801
I always just took that as part of the totalitarian Japanifornia setting.

>>389293964
Why does she have a dick drawn on her forehead?

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>>389302270

There's a lot of that in AA5 and AA6, to the point where I'm sure the writers were being self-aware and poking fun at the controversies in AA4.

One of my favorite moments was in 6-2 where Apollo asks Trucy how the sword trick was done, she at first says "a magician never reveals her secrets" then almost right afterwards decides to make an exception. That felt like a slam on one of the more idiotic moments in 4-3 where Trucy wouldn't tell Apollo how a trick worked even though their client's life was on the line.

I'd also point out Sorin's diary in AA6-S, where Phoenix figures out if they use fingerprint dust on the page after where one had been torn out they could read what was written on the torn page. (personally I would had just rubbed it with a No. 2 pencil, which normally how that works, but meh), but it does show how Phoenix could have easily cleared up the matter with the missing diary page in 4-4's flashback case, making that particular case even more infuriating at how contrived it was.

>>389302810
Are you kidding me? Absolutely. I don't just want this, I want to present it to everyone I know like Phoenix presenting his badge. I'd print that panel out and pin it to my lapel.

>>389303257
To cement her male disguise. What girl would go around with a dick on her forehead?

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>>389302719

I loved the expressions in that doujin.

>>389303476
I always appreciate when doujins stay true to the characters, which that one did (as did that one Adrian x Franziska one)

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>>389302629

There was this one with Franziska and Mia which was good stuff.

>>389303221
I'm still amazed by the fact that Clay only has 5 min of screentime and probably has more fan art than Athena.

>>389303585
considering how hard they're pushing apollo to be gay without saying it explicitly that's not too weird

>>389303309
You heard the anon, drawfags

>>389298325
Larry gets accused for murder except this time it was real

>>389303712
Who is they? Capcom? Tumblr?

>>389303831
capcom

>>389302357
What happened to it?

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What do you think about this?

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>>389303958
Looks ridiculously fake, bucko, here's a real man's badge

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>>389303585

As much as I like Dual Destinies, one of my guffs with it was he really needed some spotlight before he got killed, like maybe write a different case for 5-2 that involved him as a witness.

>>389303876
They made a female character fall in love with Apollo though.

>>389302801
1-2 ending.

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When are we going to get a post-timeskip Von Karma family case?

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>>389303879
It became a circlejerk of trip/namefags very shortly after it got relegated to /vg/. And then it went through a bunch of management issues.

>The glory days of GLOVES and GREG will never return

>>389304028
exactly, and he never shows an ounce of interest

convince me to go through Apollo Justice and not skip it and go to the next game

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>>389303958

Ha, a real agent of justice shows his badge like... THIS!

I agree. I was so unimpressed with Dual Destinies, I had extreme skepticism for SoJ. I was so sick and tired of >muh spirit medium/ Fey clan cases that when I heard all my peers giving accolades to the game, I was surprised.
Maybe it's because I am more willing to accept that half of Ace Attorney is the silly anime humor. I became bitter and disgruntled because I thought the series had jumped the shark into anime game territory, but I had neglected to realize that the series has always been that way. Has its subtlety evolved with the times? Absolutely, in an exact same fashion that anime has as well. I never picked up this game and saw gritty, realistic Law and Order-style cases, it's a fun high-energy logic game with serious moments and tones, but at the end of the day the bad guy will be caught and peace will restore to the land.
That said, I can't remember a case I hated. Case 6-3 probably gave me the most difficulty, simply because scenes in games that flip-flop back and forth lines of reasoning are sometimes difficult to follow, and the secret base fountain had some semantics I just wasn't picking up on. Honestly the "Insight" gimmick I thought looked cool on paper, but was pretty fucking annoying matching the moments with the evidence, I can't be the only one who thinks that.
Other than that, solid cases, solid story, again, for a redundant concept as Spirit Medium culture. I'll admit they handled a whole new country really really well.
Fuck Athena. I thought she would develop as a character since DD. She was still floundering the entire time, needing asspulls like they were tissues for a kid with allergies at recess, and god was that hard to watch. Am I being too hard? That was Nick's entire character in game 1. I don't care. Mia wasn't even that bad, at least she wasn't having anxiety attacks in the courtroom.
1/2

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>>389303958
>>389304002
why bother with those puny things, pal? Real men show their police badge, 'nuff said

>>389303958
Fake badge

>>389304086
the first case is great and the last case is decent, it also sets up a whole bunch of things, especially for SoJ

don't skip games, faggot

>>389304079
he's too busy with his CHORDS OF STEEL

>>389304086
it has the best soundtrack int he franchise:
https://youtu.be/VzrJP3kOngk
https://youtu.be/zItDnqbSejY
https://youtu.be/Cofz_YxBXa0

>>389303879
People got bored and left. The only ones who bothered going on there were filthy ERPers and circlejerkers. The server got posted on the AA plebbit page so now basically there's a mix of 4chan plebbit cancer.

>>389304086

>>389304246

This

Also story stuff I guess

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>>389304079

A pity.

>>389304086
Play it so you can be as mad as us.

>>389302629
There was a decent one with Pearl, I just can't find it anymore.

>>389304142
le body was unidentified for a year was retarded, should've just been killed before 5-4

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>>389304383
>really liked the idea of Junie x Apollo
>Apollo is romantically dense and in not-asia

>>389304152
The plot was really good, as I said before. I was impressed how easily they seemingly retconned an entire history to Apollo and made it work. By the end, pulling the whole gotta prove she's not the queen felt again like something I've done so many times (blame Investigations case 5 I guess), but it's moments like those you can tell the player is supposed to feel strong, like a shonen hero doing his final attack on the big bad.
Music was good, animations were good.
About the DLC case, it felt so weird. Pretty sure it's common knowledge that cases in the first trilogy had a simplicity to it that the newer ones didn't follow (even as tricky as cases like 2-4 or 3-5 got). This feels perfectly like a return to form for it, and honestly took me back. You'll really like it.
Skins are skins, and I honestly couldn't care less about them.

>>389304086
SUGAR SUGAR

>>389304461
>>389304142
I think it would've been stronger if he had just been Fulbright AND the bad guy, not the stupid mask shit. The spy gadget reveal near the end was cool enough, they should've stuck with that.

>>389304202
I just wish there was a way of playing it on my 3DS.

>>389304461
the 'he was an imposter all along' shit was retarded. why not just have the phantom's identity be Bobby Fulbright instead of 'le man with no face, name or identity'?

>>389304678
You mean besides putting the cart in your 3DS or downloading the soon to be released 3DS version?

>>389304643
Yeah it would had been better if he was a mole within the police rather than majick mask man with the edgy "I have no identity" shit.

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>>389304461

That would had killed (no pun intended) the impact of the deception.

He was still the same person you met in 5-2, the same one who helped Phoenix take Orla's trial to court, the same one who helped lower the banner for Athena in 5-3, and the same one who said he would work to reform Blackquill. The fact it was all an act the Phantom did based on what he thought the real Fulbright would do made it all the more effective.

>>389304152
>Honestly the "Insight" gimmick I thought looked cool on paper, but was pretty fucking annoying matching the moments with the evidence, I can't be the only one who thinks that.

I fucking loved them. They were actually properly difficult and required a lot of 3D thinking. The lantern insight in 6-3 in particular was really cool spatially, as was the prosopagnosia one in 6-5 - not all of them were equally strong, mostly the ones looking for small things to click, but most were pretty good.

>>389304529
I just don't understand why Capcom would let Apollo stay there business wise. They killed off the top 3 populair pairings with Apollo now

>>389304678
Just find a cart, or wait until November when the remaster is released for 3DS while you tide yourself over with the AAI games

>>389304908
He'll just come back next game for the inevitable Thalassa-focused case.

>>389304859
>prosopagnosia
I completely forgot about that. I hate how it may have been a cool twist or not, but I have no way of knowing because it was already done in a previous mystery game and therefor felt "done before", unjust or not.

>>389304908
it's not a romance series

if aa7 is a japanifornia game I guarantee apollo will return more handsome anyway

>>389305123
Speaking of, Inga sure had COMPLEX MOTIVES, huh?

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Athena's design is horrible. She had potential.

>>389305123
One thing I completely expected was him seeing the actual Founder or some shit in a way that looked exactly like all the paintings everywhere, but the game never went there

>>389305274
Oh god, you're so right. I mean I like her expressions, but hate her overall design.

>>389305123
I had the concept of prosopagnosia fresh in my mind thanks to ZE and immediately thought of it when I found the note. The twist was well written though.

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Hey guys, you know that Wellington fag? I hear he's dating that Maggey nerd. I think he blabbered on about going to the park with her tomorrow or something.

>>389305231
AA dating sim when

>>389305404
we get the last laugh. he's in the worst case in the series

>>389305274
>>389305373
Shes something that looks amazing and stands out on paper
But putting her ingame makes it show that shes more anoying and doesnt work well with the rest of the cast

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>>389305404
That's tomorrow? That's __crazy

>>389305404
>always forget this case
>look it up
>type in "The Forgotten Turnabout"
>I'm wrong every time

>>389305426
dangan ronpa

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>>389305274

Oh neat, I like that design. I would have loved if they went with that.

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Funny how the only physical release of AA in the states is the Layton crossover, and we're slowly but steadily not getting any translated spinoff games.
Meanwhile, in Japan...

>>389305646
How would she stroke her hair like that without ruining the curl though

>>389305274
I like Athena as a character and her animations are good, but yeah, that bottom left design would've been way superior

>>389305465
It was bad but no 4-3.

>>389305274
who do these look very Level 5? Is it the eyes?

>>389304152

>Fuck Athena. I thought she would develop as a character since DD.

Athena's problem is everything about her was basically introduced and resolved within (and as the entire point of) DD. Phoenix and Apollo didn't get their "big backstory that actually ties in to a major murder case" until 3 and 6, respectively. Phoenix gets a pass because he's in a mentor position mostly now, and Apollo should be gone from the series now that his arc has wrapped up.

I have no idea what they could really do with Athena at this point, though, considering anything that comes after I believed I murdered my mother is going to be less impressive.

>>389305706
Is that a pachinko? Do they make pachinkos of fucking everything?

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>>389305274

This could be a good "new" look for her later on down the line, ala Phoenix's new look.

>>389305827
I mean, they could just have her as a protagonist with maybe some acquaintances from Europe, filling an outsider's role to someone else's problems.

>>389305827
Kill off Athena.

>>389305827
Well to be fair, we thought Apollo's story was over until 5, then until 6; we thought he was going to be an ongoing story like Nick.
I sure hope Athena isn't the new focus, or if she is she gets her shit together. Now I may be speaking of a bias here, because my favorite character to play as was Edgeworth and nuNick because they more often than not had their shit together, and only went into a panic in reasonable circumstances.

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Best prosecutors concept art

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>>389305743

It would "sproing" back into place like a slinky.

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>>389305864
Yes. I want to call them out, but in the States we really aren't so different. Have you been in an American casino lately? 90% of all slots are digital, and look exactly like Facebook/app games. Pachinko is the same, just with more licensed names.

>>389306075
>nuNick

please no, he needs to get a background role already or they will feel the need to one-up themselves again and have him take on the President of Venus or some shit

>>389304383
that's really fucking cute

>>389301074
Whoever did AA4

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>>389306131
>>389305274
>tfw her wedding party dress wasn't DLC

>>389304086
I just remembered how 4-1 was the best case in the game, then I remembered it doesn't fucking matter, because Nick trying to prove a point (I guess?) gave you forged evidence
The Dark Age of the Law, as fucking horrendous as an arc that was, was brought upon itself

>>389306324
They just need to treat him like Edgeworth and everything will be fine.

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>>389305827

I think she's best where she is, as an assistant to Phoenix and handling a case on her own once in a blue moon. Trying to make her the focus would be like trying to make Maya the main character.

>>389306008

>she's annoying so she should be killed off

Jees, it's like I'm on the Court-Records' forum. again.

>>389306563
E-Ema in a dress...?

>>389306563
>Athena proudly showing off her shoulders
What a slut

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>>389306698
>I think she's best where she is, as an assistant to Phoenix and handling a case on her own once in a blue moon. Trying to make her the focus would be like trying to make Maya the main character.

I think you got that backwards. All the best uses of Athena have been in her own cases - Apollo works better with Trucy, Phoenix better with Maya. Athena works best with Blackquill, or, maybe, with Apollo as HER assistant.

I think it's fun to have a true rookie again, both Apollo and Phoenix have such a high powerlevel now that they're kind of untouchable or need some crazy strong opponent to work, but Athena can still work her way up. I'm not against AA7 having mostly her in the protagonist role at all, much like what AA6 did for Apollo.

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>>389306590

>Dark age of law
>Apollo's dad was a performer
>Thalassa is still alive and was in Birginia
>Magnifi blackmailing Zak and Valant into doing shit
>Mason system

I swear it feels like a lot of the plot points in AA4 had Takumi going "Okay, here's a bunch of sequel hooks, have fun trying to explain them, I'm out."

>change her design
>give her solo cases with Blackquill as the prosecutor
>give her some more background lore
Phoenix became a lawyer to save Miles, Apollo's reason was because of Durke but what about this girl? Was it ever explained in DD what her motive was?

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>>389305274

>concept art looks better then what was used

I know that feeling.

>>389307469
It wasn't completely his fault, Capcom put AA on the backburner and he wanted to make Ghost Trick (which was a good choice). I think the jury system came back in some form he might've wanted in DGS.

>>389307738
To save Blackquill, and thats done now. They introduced her and then finished her story in the same game.

>>389307753
It's understable to have Maya not be as thicc as her older sister. It would've been too much otherwise.

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How did she ever manage to fool anyone?

>>389307906
>no hope whatsoever for Pearl

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>>389307738

She was trying to save Blackquill.

In addition, Phoenix met Athena while studying aboard in England where he helped her out of a jam, and he was the one who inspired her to use the Mood Matrix in court.

>>389308003
What annoys me more is that her motive for even doing this was so fucking weak, what the hell

The school is full of girls and it's not the fucking 1850s

>>389308025
>Phoenix met Athena while studying aboard in England where he helped her out of a jam

hello 7-1

i think it was vague "europe" though, not england

>>389308003
She has a dick on her forehead

>>389303257
>>389303347

>>389307845
Let's see here. Phoenix' reason was revealed in game 1 and him trying to save his childhood friend lasted 3 whole games. Apollo's also took 3 games. Is it safe to say AA7 won't be focused on Athena, or will Capcom shoehorn in new bullshit like Blackquill actually being her brother?

>>389308350
They will almost surely come up with something, I just hope its not as outrageous as Apollo being adopted by Dhurke.

>>389308350
Both Phoenix and Apollo's motives were spelled out and done in the first game too, neither were expected to have more games.

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>>389308003
>Athena finally calls out what's been obvious to the player since first meeting Robin
>Everyone says she's crazy until the confession

>>389302226
stream on pc, record it, rip it

>>389308562
>neither were expected to have more games.
I want the receipts.

>>389308562
I dont remember Apollo getting shit in his game.

>>389309001
He wanted to become a lawyer because Phoenix Wright was so cool, got disillusioned with him in the first case, rest of the game is him coming to terms with that. It's a small story, but that's really all there is to it.

>>389308828
that's an insane amount of effort though

>>389309215
And you expect anything less from an autistic lawyer simulator?

>>389302629
I'm still waiting for that Trucy doujin.be scanned one day.

>>389310094
name one Edgeworth case where Nick didn't win because the Prosecution all but literally hopped to the other bench and betrayed his witness.

>>389310245
1-2

>>389310234
>yfw trucy is legal now

>>389310376
>yfw trucy is fictional

>>389296546
He literally saves the day in 1-3 and 1-5.

>"innocent cinnamon roll too pure for this world except she's actually evil when cornered" witness

i fucking hate this meme

>>389297826
The Judge is poisoned and the witness of a previous case is killed. Villain is the new judge (who actually appeared in a couple of prior cases in the game. Up until then he's been a real 'tired of your shit' type of guy who has no patience for bluffs and Nick's usual type of sheanigens. An asshole but ultimately you thought he was tough but fair). Judge survives obviously.

The end of the tutorial case would have the culprit (a mob fortune teller who was part of a big mafia) swear a curse of revenge on everyone who put him away. The defense, the witness, the judge, and the prosecution. Case 4 would have the judge 'feeling unwell' but no other indication something was up, case 5 would have attempts on Nick's life, the Judge's poisoning coming to light (culprit of first case is the suspect, who Nick defends) and the witness being put into witness protection. Witness is killed after the first day and the case switches to who killed him, Nick/Maya/Pearl/Whoever as prime suspect.

>>389297826
I don't know and I don't care, but it ends with Phoenix Presenting a wedding ring to Maya.

>>389296546
He does Phoenix's job for him in 3-5.

>>389310376
>Pearl is legal

>>389311729
Phoenix and Maya have a sibling-like relationship. Try again.

Lawyers:
Phoenix > Apollo > Mia > Athena


Prosecutors:
Blackquil > Edgeworth > Klavier > Franziska > Godot > Nahyuta

>>389305274
Why is it that every single time I see concept art, it looks better than the final game? Am I just too used to the final design that I think any other looks better?

>>389311534
Who in SoJ?

>>389312262
Fucking gross dude. She's like, 8 years old!

>>389312883
Cases 2 and 4
Though Case 2 is a different culprit and she was tricked into being an accessory

>>389311534
Oh wow it's like most women when they're trying to hide something.

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This was a good but flawed case

>>389312573
>literally breaks his cuffs after every sentence he says
>is a weeb
>wears emo makeup
Blackquill is Nahyuta tier

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>>389312405
>"innocent cinnamon roll too pure for this world" witness
>she actually did nothing wrong

>>389313093
I felt bad for the clown. Taifu deserved what he got for being a retarded ass.

>>389312573
Judges:
Justine>Judge>Judge>Judge

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>Ema: Hey, let's dust for fingerprints!
>Ema: hmm, those are some prints alright, but let's see if we can find a bigger print!

>>389313291
Juniper>Justine>Judge>Canadian judge

>>389292023
The family of the defendant is going around bribing prosecutors to drop the case which makes them look super guilty. That's why Edgy steps in.

>>389312573
Edgeworth>Sebastian> Godot> Franziska> Payne> Klavier>>> Blackquil> Mahyuta

>>389313093
But in case 2 the "evil" one was her twin, even though they were both in cahoots. Case 4 is correct, though.

>>389313291
>>389313415
>ANYONE above The Great Judgini.
You fuckers need to get your GOD DAMN facts straight. The Judge is the best character in the entire franchise.

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>>389313312
>playing in car or loud area
>put a single spot of powder down
>instantly blown away
>can't find spot on object I know it wants be to find
>game fps is in single digits

>>389313274
yeah clown gf did nothing wrong

>>389313415
I forgot about Juniper.
Does she really count though?

>>389313595
Any year now she will.

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>>389312573
>not including the best pros in series, even if spinoff

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>>389307753
>>389306563
>>389291365

I WANT SUCK THEiR TOES AND SUMATA AGAINST THEIR SOLES WHILE THEY TWITCH AND CRINGE IN DISGUST! CAPCOM CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!

>>389313431
It's not helped by the fact that the groom is also a possible suspect, and has anterograde amnesia.

>>389313259
>doesn't use corrupt means in court, but still poses a threat anyway bc he's actually competant at his job
>has great chemistry with his rival from the very start
>is tightly linked with the plot of the game he's introduced in, perfectly resolves his dilemma by the end of the game
>no contrived motives bullshit, is just a good person trying to do good things
He's based as fuck, and somehow the best example of an actually decent prosecutor in AA, despite him being a death row convict and in a game all about legal corruption.

great revival playing every time edgeworth speaks was funny as fuck

>>389313259
The cuff breaking was annoying, but I swear if I had to sit through another bead snapping or SAKURAI ABOO NI AH NO UTA CUMTA!" from Nahyuta I'd consider dropping.

>>389291909
Yamazaki is good writer
Takumi is great creator

>>389314014
Funny how the two games that are supposed to take place in the dark age of legal corruption have the two least corrupt and most honest prosecutors in the entire series

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>>389298942
These and Bonnie how do they keep coming up with great characters? Half of the side characters deserves their own game

>>389314416
The Dark Age of the Law isn't noticeably different from all the other corrupt shit you've had to deal with.

>>389314416
Yeah, one of the big reasons why Dark Age is a garbage story arc. We're told that the system is corrupt and everything is awful, but we're not shown it at all.

>>389314491
>Muh, I wanted to put you in the jail, becuase I'm jealous of you.
>Muh, I can't do anything, because my older sister is so scary!
>Muh, I forgive you all, because whatever......
>Great characters.

>>389314512
>>389314751
Honestly it seems LESS corrupt than just the first game, much less the whole trilogy, which is what makes all the lip service to it so ironic

The Fragrance of Dark Coffee > Great Revival > The Sword of Labyrinthia > Guilty Love > The Twisted Samurai = The Last Rites Prosecutor

>>389314751
>we're not shown it at all.
Professor Means?

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The DLC was okay. It was about time travel shenanigans. But I honestly think it wasn't worth the money.

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>>389314345
They're both annoying which could also be the main reason why people ship them.

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>>389315014
The Fragrance of Dark Coffee > Great Revival > The Twisted Samurai > Guilty Love > Speak Up, Pup > First Class Reasoning > The Last Rites Prosecutor

>>389314874
I mostly care about their appearances and animations and cuteness but you're right . . .

>>389315028
Isn't a member of the legal system, he has no real power. Again, the game is telling us everything is corrupt by giving us a character who defends blatant corruption, but it doesn't actually show us that corruption in action.

>>389314491
I think SoJ has the most (amount) likable side characters.

>>389292625
That was the worst part EVER, having to deal with that asshole again is fucking up my colon

>>389315423
Well, the whole point was that the court systems WEREN'T this horrible den of corruption like the media claimed, and that was what Edgeworth was trying to prove. It was all mostly based on Blackquill's conviction, (along with things from other games that they left out so as not to spoil them, like Phoenix's forged evidence, the prosecutorial investigation committee chairman being corrupt, etc.) and when that turned out to be a mistake, it was meant to show that there wasn't really a dark age of the law at all.

>>389306303
Fuck me, I set foot into a casino this summer for the first time in forever, and it looked like I had walked into a physical version of Google Play.

>>389305827
>Athena Cykes: Ace Attorney
I want this

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Why does this series have so many semen demons?

>>389315856
>it was meant to show that there wasn't really a dark age of the law at all.
I hadn't looked at it that way before, and the game really doesn't do a good job of displaying it given that literally every character talks about the Dark Age as if it's a factual, real thing. There isn't really any debate about whether it exists or not in the game, everyone just seems to accept it.

>>389316149
They're 3rd party, but they're still Nintendo Girls, only the highest quality fap material allowed.

>>389316161
The dark age of the law was about people's trust in the court system. In that sense, it was real. You saw people like Prof. Means, and Aura Blackquill who didn't trust the court system at all.

>>389316149
Mobile gacha game when?

>>389316514
How would that even work?

>>389304086
If you can play it on a 3DS it's fine then,

Also You won't spoil yourself like i did some threads ago

>>389313581
>Amazed by her balloons
>Turns out she's flat as a board

She deserves it for tricking me

>>389316692
Idk I don't play them
Just make something about rolling for characters and lvls and stuff.
Gameplay can just be puzzles with a court case as a backdrop like puzzle fighter

>>389317379

The real problem is being able to randomize puzzles. It would have to be something like sodoku or tetris

>>389305123
I have a brother who fucking loves Ace Attorney and Danganronpa and who I've been trying to convince to give Zero Escape a try. After SoJ, I'm now afraid he'll have the reverse effect and that he'll get that "eh, already been done" feeling when he finally plays 999. Feels bad man.

>>389318148
Literally me. I've had 999 on the back burner for years even got one ending. Finally pushed through it directly after finishing SoJ. Those two series are nothing alike so hopefully he'll give it a chance.

>>389304202
>decide to just emulate AJ
>doing the first case Turnabout Trump
>holy this is hype
>get near the end
>blood falls backwards from blow??? suddenly swivel chairs when he's very clearly sitting in a classical chair???

what a waste of a hype concept

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Is Phoenix going to die a virgin?

>>389319896
Where is Iris now?

>>389320542
Jail, probably

>>389320937
I don't think just being an accomplice would take 9 fucking years.

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>>389296427
Plot Twist: They kill of Wright. Trucy, Athena, and Apollo need to collaborate to solve an intercontinental murder mystery, and Edgeworth is the defendant. They still don't bring back Gumshoe.

>>389321265
But an accomplice to MURDER?
Seems like a big deal

>>389315267
>not First Class Farewell
You're right about Nahyuta's theme, tho.

>>389321368
>that last spoiler

Fuck you for making me think that could even happen.

>>389293964
>crazy eyebrows were just her hair
That was the real plot twist.

Shame that she doesn't have more fan art, I really liked her antics

>>389315267
I actually like Nahyuta's theme. I despise everything else about him, though.

You guys played through the first translated DGS case yet?

>>389315267
The problem with ranking music from this series is that they're all good

>>389325239
Where and how can I play it? I'd love to support the devs by buying their games, but they need to be in fucking English, you know? Still pissed AAI-2 never made it here.

>>389302654
This. He's pretty much right right up there with Zak and Magnifi.

>>389325719
You need a hacked 3DS, the Luma patch guide can be found in 3dsiso

>>389291365
cute toes

>>389302031
Insufferable gary stu. His "dragon never yields" gimmick is embarrassing.

>>389302031
I have such fond memories of this game...