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Can someone post the image of all of Nintendo's "innovations,"

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Can someone post the image of all of Nintendo's "innovations," but they already existed before Nintendo go their hands on them?
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>>389288996
>Digital pad
>Mattel Intellivision
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>>389288996
Thank you so much
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>>389289984
The image would be a lot easier to take seriously without crap like that on it.
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>>389288834
Nintendo getting sued makes me feel good for some reason... Is this a good thing?
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>>389289984
>>389290683
That is a type of digital pad, though.
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>>389290852
depends
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>>389288996
woa nintendo sucks
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>>389288834
>>389288996
This is just blatantly trying to mislead people.
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>>389288996
>controller with screen
>sega dreamcast 1998

>original gameboy 1989
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>>389288834
I have another one.
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>>389292667
I'm assuming this is a falseflag, but I'll entertain it anyway. I'm not poor like you and own all the consoles
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>>389292546
>Rumble totally was not a first on N64
>because Piss1 games released before November 1997 supported it
>Dualshock controller for Piss1 was released November 1997
>RumblePak for N64 was released April 1997
>Star Fox 64 on N64 was released April 1997

Nice Fake News you got there
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>>389288996
This is absolute desperation of /v/ - trying to rewrite history. You might as well include the pocket calculator on there and pretend the GameBoy ripped it off.
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>>389292110
You're an absolute fucking moron.

It's like trying to deny Karl Benz invented the automobile because the wheel already existed.
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>>389288996
Still call reaching on the wireless controller.
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>>389289984
That's not the only problem.

Hey goys, do you remember the great "DataSoft LeStick" hype back in 1981? Yeah, I totally remember that. Sold out for years. Sure, 3rd party support was piss, but whatever. And it worked so well. I use it still to this day.

How much butthurt do you need to be to do this?
>very

>foot controller
kek
someone tell that guy what the Wii Fit board actually is
>controller with screen
If you put it that way, what's a Gameboy.
A photo of it is even on the exact same image.

>m-m-m-mega-butthurt, that you can't even stand that the horrible Virtual Boy could have been a first.
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>>389292383
This faggot is trying to say that Tomb Raider invented lock on.
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>>389288834
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>>389292667
Fuck you ya buck toothed negro
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>>389288834
Here you go little fanboy.
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>>389288996
The Virtual Boy is the perfect example why the image is shit.

>muh Virtual Boy was not the first one
yeah, we know. And Virtual Boy was still shit.
Nintendo only nailed stereoscopic vision with the 3DS.
And that's what actually matters. Nailing it.

>muh we wuz the first house makers
yeah, that's the point.
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>>389292385
>gameboy is the original switch
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>>389295438
>If you put it that way, what's a Gameboy.
>A photo of it is even on the exact same image.
Yeah, and the photo also says it's not the first one.
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>>389295719
But japanese phones were using 3D like 10 years before that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_3D-enabled_mobile_phones
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>>389288996
>Mattel Intellivision

Didn't have a d-pad. it has a directional disc. People who post this NeoGAF created bait image are obvious retards.
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Memory Cards? Can't Sony do anything original?
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>>389295665
I know that some of that is supposed to be a bit of bait but the OoT/Dark Cloud thing triggered me
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>>389295665
Sony created SFC/SNES CD though.
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>>389295964
No bait at all. Dark Cloud was billed as a "Zelda Killer" and that's why the game even mocked the Zelda style with it's box art.

That image is an old fag litmus test. People who were around at the time get the reference.
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>>389295665
APPLE DIDN'T INVENT THE TABLET YOU FUCK. You fucking Mac users lick Steve Jobs taint so much he got prostate cancer.
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>>389296007
>Sony created SFC/SNES CD though.
No. It was designed by Nintendo engineers. The only thing Sony made for it were audio chips.
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>>389296236
It isn't about who invented it. It's about how Sony immediately rips off ideas once they become popular. Sony has never had an original idea. They exist solely on the work of others.
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>>389295964
You can't not see what they were going for with the design of this character
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>>389294825
Wojaks shows signs of lower intellect in posters
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>>389289984
https://youtu.be/yMnL-Ct0DTQ

It's a Direction Pad with a disc above it.
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>>389288996
Wtf I hate Nintendo now
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>>389288996
>Guranteed replies
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>>389295849
>after a few minutes, the game-players eyes started to feel a little strained.
>users will be able to play 3D games for up to half an hour before they require a screen break
>The only major downside was that in order for the viewer to see a 3D effect they had to position themselves in a fairly exact spot.

What did I say?
Those phones were literally a nigger house.
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>>389295665

What the hell is a Sony dual screen?
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>>389296149
You mean this?
I don't live in an english-speaking country and I never bothered with one-sided magazines in the first place, though I grew up with Nintendo consoles while a friend had a PS1 and by the time the GC/PS2 released I was old enough to stop the consolewarfaggotry behind and had both.
I never got the zelda-reference and I only got it off my backlog a few years ago so I never really bothered with threads back then (if there were any)
The games are pretty different

>>389296372
>You can't not see what they were going for with the design of this character
I can't. Maybe because I played the game
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>>389296806
>zelda killer
Shameful display. What a disgusting company.
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>>389296806
>image
>oh wow, a new "killer" game
>oh wow, it's shit
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>>389295665
Soulless and creatively bankrupt company
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>>389296506
It's knob that you rotate like a radio. It's not a d-pad.
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>>389288996
C’mon, that that lil’ controller baby that looks like a dildo. Aight, I ain’t trying to play my games, with no Dildo.
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>>389296946
It keeps happening bro
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>>389294086
>>389294825
Digital pad doesn't mean the shape dumbasses. It's about how it tracks the directional input
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>>389289984
Also, there are no shoulder buttons. Just those in the side. This was held like a remote, with the diskpad at the bottom.

this was my first console
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>>389288996
Why doesn't this mention Hydlide or Dragon Slayer for Zelda?
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>>389296806
>blonde twink boy with green hat
Okay that's a coincidence...
>top of gloved hand glowing yellow
Oh
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>>389288996
This is like saying "how dare [car company] feature good wheels when some random fuck invented it ages ago?"
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>>389288996
Woah! I hate Nintendo now? Selling my Switch.
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>>389296343
Walkman was pretty original
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>>389296946
>oh wow, it's shit
It isn't though.

>>389297137
It's different.
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>>389297043
Oh fucking please. Just give up. It's bullshit tech nowhere near as competent as Nintendo's.

Nintendo invented the modern D-Pad. This is fact. No amount of salty tears and foot-stomping denial is going to change history.


https://youtu.be/CnmMDzgTB7o
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>>389288996
Wow, look at all those patent licenses that Nintendo violated.
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>>389288834
>>389288996
>>389290430

>actually believing this absolutely retarded grasping-for-straws bullshit autismo meme

/v/ has fucking lost it jesus fucking christ

>NINTENDO COPIED BENJAMIN FRANKLIN HARVESTING ELECTRICITY!!!!! NO INNOVATION!!!!
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>>389297137
He's also a mute hero who fights with his sword in deep dungeons (each boss you encounter has a subtitle).

I also like how front on Toan's sloppy hair looks like Link's side bang things.

It's a shame everyone wanted Dark Cloud to be Sony's Zelda. I just wanted a good new Actraiser and instead I got a Dehydration Simulator.
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>>389288996
>nintendo stole Le Stick design from Datasoft
>Le Stick
LeL
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>>389297332
That magazine cover image sure wanted people to think what I thought
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>>389297423
We're talking about who invented it, not who modernized it. Dum-dum.

Also,
>linking Gaming Historian who, like MatPat, changes some narrative around to fit the video he's making.
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>>389297465
fun fact, they've been sued for a few of these and lost every time.
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>>389297482
>actually believing this
Which one of those are false?
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>>389297794
The actual tears of child.

Based Nintendo. Kings of Vidya Innovation. Keep crying.
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>>389297423
Mattel invented. Others did it before Nintendo even
1980
https://youtu.be/l3pSus1LasM
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>>389297496
Yeah, no shit.
Makes you think that it's a shitty clone if you haven't played the game and if you have, it's just stupid.

Dark Cloud and Dark Chronicle/Dark Cloud 2 are good games though
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>>389295665
>BUTTTT SONY HUUUUURRRRRRRRNGH REEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! ;____;

every time on /nintendogaf/, I don't recall OP claiming he was a sony supporter at all you triggered little manchild.
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>>389288996
>Smash style gameplay
and thats bad ....?
I mean, every fucking fps is the fucking same these days.
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>>389298062
>Which one of those are false?

Well, lets start at the beginning. Oh look, the very first one is bullshit. Whodda fucking thunk it.?
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>>389295898
Underrated post>>389295964
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>>389298115
No tears, only facts.
I actually like Nintendo, you idiot. I just know that Nintendo is not infallible and take advantage of what's already been made.
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>>389297332
>the magazine literally says zelda killer
>still defending it this hard
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>>389298062

All of them?

The first one?
The one about "motion detection"?
Motion detection is possible in fucking pedometers way predating whatever fucking irrelevant bullshit the OP meme states is the "creator of motion detection".

If you want to play that game that "Nintendo copied motion detection" you'd have to say the fucking scientist / engineer who invented motion detection is being scammed by Nintendo. They are ALL using the technology. Not one game company invented ANY of the things listed in that shitty meme.

Computers, calculators, digital watches, etc. invented practically everything gaming "innovated" meaning Nintendo didn't steal shit from any particular game company at all.
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>>389298128
Thats not a D-Pad. You know nothing about video games you child.
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>>389298167
I don't see why this shouldn't become a thread about technology.

>>389298228
Just because it's been done before doesn't mean it was better.
Actually it should be better or at least just as good if it came later.
Then there is stuff like Sega Soccer Slam and Mario Soccer
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>>389298380
I actually own every PlayStation. But I still get embarrassed by posers who deny historical fact.
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>>389298427
>a pad
>with directional inputs
>not a d-pad
wat

>>389298419
>All of them?
the delusion in this one is pretty high
>Not one game company invented ANY of the things listed in that shitty meme.
nowhere in that picture does it say those companies inveted those things, it just says that all of those concepts and ideas existed way before nintendo implemented those and nintentoddlers such as yourself started to claim those as original.
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>>389294086
This.

/v/ really desperately wants to undermine Nintendo for some really childish reason. To the point of just making up shit.
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>>389298747
Its fucking buttons mate. You're not having tactile feedback. You don't know a fucking thing. I'm old enough to have played shit devices like that.
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>>389299057
>I'm old school
>therefore everything I say is correct and everything you say is wrong
I doubt you even have pubes you literal manchild.
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>>389299057
That's not what a d-pad is.
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>>389299216
You're right. I don't have any pubes. I shave it all off. Bitches are more likely to enjoy sucking your dick if you're smoothly shaven. Protip.
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>>389299407
That's exactly my point.
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>>389299449
>Bitches are more likely to enjoy sucking your dick if you're smoothly shaven. Protip.
You really don't need to go out of your way to tell us that you're a virgin anon.
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>>389288834
still more successful than most of them
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>>389298427
Course not, it's a control pad ;)
Intellvision deserves the credits tho, but this is another good one, just like the Casio portables, it mimics a pad.
>you child
Everyone here knows your first console was a gamecube.
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>>389298128
You see. Those are buttons. Unlike the intellivision knob. And yet you try to argue that their knob is a d-pad.
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>>389298382
Please don't bully Dark Cloud/Level-5
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>>389299706
>it mimics a pad.
Exactly.
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>>389297029
>le stick
>le
You need to go back.
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>Starts to release virtual console content on wii
>emulators existed for over a decade already
>even suspected of ripping off ROMs that already existed
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-18-did-nintendo-download-a-mario-rom-and-sell-it-back-to-us
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>>389299832
LE as in Limited Edition
It was a luxury product for rich gamers who didn't want to play games like peasans
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>>389299945
not just suspected, it's fact.
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>>389288834
>that image
Oh please, that lawsuit has absolutely zero ground.
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>>389299945
>>389300097
It's sensationalist nonsense. The rom BELONGS to Nintendo in any shape or form. It's their code. What exactly are you trying to prentend they're guilty of? Stealing their own stuff?
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>>389298827
The /nintendogaf/ is strong with this post.
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>>389300267
Not saying they committed a crime, just that they're hypocritical about ROMs. However under Nintendo's own policies they would be guilty of a crime if they made the law.
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>>389288996
>polygonal game
This image gets stupider each time I see it.
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>>389288996
>The Outfoxies
What the hell is that?
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>>389300487
You can't be guilty of thieving your intellectual property.
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>>389288996
>infiminer vs minecraft tier comparisons
Sonygros are retarded
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>>389290852
No because they got sued for apparently using tech in the Wii remote that was patented by a baby monitoring company. It's not even interesting drama, just a shitty nobody company trying to make some money off of nintendo
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>>389288996
>game did thing
>nintendo game also has thing
>ZOMG NINTENDO STOLE IT WHAT A BUNCH OF HACKS
Did you do a good stretch before attempting that reach?
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>>389300790
Pedantic "Um, actually" aside as companies are not people. They are still hypocritical of selling a ROM that they downloaded off the internet that was ripped by someone else. Nintendo feels that you can't use a ROM at all (as stated in their policies about emulation), when under law you are able to make backups that you made yourself. However Nintendo didn't even do that.
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>>389298167
This is a very ironic post and I derive pleasure from reading it.
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>>389300858
If they violated copyright, they violated it and should be taken to court for it.
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>>389301054
>OP literally says "image of all of Nintendo's "innovations," but they already existed before"
>somehow extrapolate that to "ZOMG NINTENDO STOLE IT WHAT A BUNCH OF HACKS"
Go back to your 3ds kid.
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>>389288834
So why sue now when they could have done it years ago
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>implying being sued in Texas Eastern District court means anything
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>it's a "sonyboys get mad their shitposting turned against them" thread
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>>389300267
Rom wasn't created by nintendo. They took a rom that someone else made.
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>>389288996
>all these mental gymnastics by the nintendo defense force

Sad!
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>>389301283
various factors ranging from C&Ds being ignored, ignorance of the product existing, getting a lawyer ballsy enough to take on Nintendo. Could be many reasons.

>>389301313
Nintendo will likely push for it to be moved to Washington.
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>>389300113
then why did ninty lose?
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>>389301649
Different lawsuit. The one in the image is for the wikipad. The one they just lost is for the baby monitoring company.
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>>389298167
Calm down. His post is relevant to the topic.
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>>389301196
The patents on the technology that Nintendo used predate the one of the company trying to sue them. They just set up their patent trying to say that it gave them ownership over the idea of an accelerometer, which they did not invent.
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>>389288996
Seriously, if I had the time or the will, I would tear every image on that list apart.

I'll give you a free one: 3D platformer. Trying to prentend that Alpha Waves (a barely functioning tech demo) is on the same planet as Mario 64 is just fucking laughable. Mario 64's innovations isn't about being a 3D platformer. There were loads even on PlayStation before its release. Mario 64's innovation is about GAME DESIGN and how it's influence is still felt today.

Fucking retarded.


Okay, I'll give another: Mat.

Holy shit what does that even mean? At what point in gaming history did Nintendo lay claim to inventing mats? Fucking Christ this whole list is made up by an infant.
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>>389302101
The mat "point" is double retarded, because if you look up what the Bandai Family Trainer is--

>Bandai first released the accessory in 1986 as the Family Trainer pack for the Famicom in Japan, and later released in the United States.
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>>389301485
That's not how roms nor intellectual property work.

Nintendo just took down a shitload of roms a few weeks back. Do you think Nintendo called up the people who headed those roms and asked if it was ok for Nintendo to take them down?
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>>389302101
we're not talking about game design. we're not talking about game design at all. We're talking about products that Nintendo or it's audience claim they innovated but in actuality many products came before Nintendo's "innovation".
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>>389302508
"Created" and "innovated" do not mean the same thing.
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>>389302343
That's not what he said. He said that Nintendo, instead of making their own ROM as per the law, downloaded a rom off the internet to be lazy. In turn, they violated their own policy about emulation.
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>>389288834
This is what Japs do though, they take existing things and improve them. See cartoons and cars.
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>>389302749
Sure, the problem is that the majority mix the two as the same. That's where the problem lies. People take these thing and say that "Oh, Nintendo made the first DPad" which is not true. They innovated it into something a mass market enjoyed the most.
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>>389288834
The usual patent trolls? I swear the copyright system is retarded as balls.
Hurr I can patent something that I could never hope to create myself!
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>>389302905
I'm a bit confused since you said
>We're talking about products that Nintendo or it's audience claim they innovated but in actuality many products came before Nintendo's "innovation"
with the implication that it's somehow impossible to innovate if you weren't the first to use it.
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>>389302974
agreed, the copyright system is beyond broken. Look up also Disney's push for an extension on length of a copyright so they can keep the mouse for themselves.
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>>389303049
using the common terminology. I expanded further since you wanted to go deeper into it. My bad if you felt I misled you.
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>>389300790
Reminds me of this
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>>389300732
Smash before Smash existed
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>>389302508
Are you saying that Nintendo and their fans go around saying that Nintendo created the idea of a controller with two control sticks?
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>>389301054
The image exists because people commonly claim nintendo invented a lot of that stuff.

OP also asked for it.
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>>389303630
Bruh, there are those that think Final Fantasy started with 7. I believe anything at this point.
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>>389303731
The image exists because someone got butthurt enough at >>389298827 existing for years and decided his corporation needed defending from the slings and arrows of a 674 KB png.
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>>389303630
I see people argue all the time that the gamecube controller drew ZERO inspiration from the dualshock controller and that the gamecube controller and not the dualshock was the first implementation of modern controller design.

I've also seen them argue that two sticks isn't a real innovation.

Some fanboys are ridiculous.
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>>389303843
And you don't see anything ironic about you now getting so butthurt at an image that you feel the need to come running to defend your corporation from it?
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>>389304004
>point out a fact
>"ur butthurt"

Nice.
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>>389303881
I've seen people argue that the n64 had technically the first dual stick setup because they count the c buttons as a second stick.

Really.
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>>389303608
>イヴ

Nice
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>>389304121
You are getting upset at people because someone posted an anti-nintendo image while arguing about someone getting triggered by an older image that was pro nintendo.

You can say you aren't butthurt, but you don't act like it.
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>>389304262
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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>>389303608
What about all those crossover anime fighting games?
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>>389304549
Smash-styled combat, not crossover buddy.
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>>389304646
But if it's not crossover, the whole point of smash brothers, and the fighting is no where near smash style, why the comparison?
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>>389304549
You're misunderstanding, you know the platforming 'fighting game' style Smash brought to the plate? Outfoxies did it first.
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>>389303608
This game doesn't play like Smash at all.

For one, it only has 1 on 1 duels, inputs don't work like in Smash, the rules are completely different (uses HP, which can only be depleted by using weapons). Literally the only thing that it has in common with Smash is the size of the levels.
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>>389303608
Is that a Stardust Crusaders reference
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>>389304898
But it is, it's not about using percentages or ring-outs though if that's what you're thinking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ1lsaaww80
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>>389305029
But platforming is the focus of either game. One is beating via knocking out the other player from the area as much in a time limit or the stock, and the other is just basic drain the others health. The mobility of each is similar, but the basic fundamentals of how to win each is vastly different.

>>389305391
I know what the gameplay is like, which is why I'm confused at the comparison. Look how item focused Outfoxies is.
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>>389304898
>>389305036
You guys seem to misunderstand the comparison. The games are similar because they are 'platforming fighting games' with stages of larger scalings than normal fighting games. They also have weapons you use on the field & stage hazards that can inflict damage on the player.
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>>389305671
But those aren't exactly innovations, and both do them differently, with Outfoxies stage changes being permanent, but smash repeats the stage hazards because the matches can last way longer.
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>>389288996

http://nintendoeverything.com/former-nintendo-designer-on-the-creation-of-game-watch-game-boy-ds/

To be fair to Nintendo, they admit that the Game & Watch was influenced by the Microvision.
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>>389288996
BETTER SELL MY SWITCH NOW
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>>389288996
This is so stupid. You could break any technology down to its predecessor's, that's how progress works.
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>>389288996
>>389295665
Were any of the things on these lists actually announced as innovations? I bet they're are some ignorant articles online claiming they're innovations, but were they announced by sony or nintendo as innovative technological advancements?
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>>389306149
/v/, gaming historian, & all the Nintendobabies blown the FUCK out.
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>>389288996

Holy shit, /v/, OoT completely ripped this game off. How did Nintendo get away with it?
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>>389306337
Yeah and the thing is people say Nintendo invented these things.

For example there are people who think Mario was the first platformer.
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>>389306339
Reggie has stated many times in pressers and interviews that many of the things listed were their invention or innovation. In particular he said they invented the DPad at an E3 one year.
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>>389305657
>>389305896
The win condition is one small difference compared to everything else. The Outfoxies was something that changed how fighting games stages could be. Smash took the idea of a 'platform fighting game' along with stage hazards & items & only did two things differently, the change of life bars, you know what I mean, & the number of players. No fighting did what the Outfoxies & Smash did. Which is why they are so similar.
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>>389288834
Wouldn't a company adopting either similar tech or ideas be innovations for the company or it's products by definition? Are you confusing "Innovation" with "Invention?"
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>>389288996
holy SHIT all the butthurt replies to this 100% true and accurate picture

This place really is nintengafchan
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>>389302905
>>389303284
>common terminology
Who the fuck uses "innovated" and "created" interchangeably other than your dumb ass?
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>>389306917
Most of /v/ considering >>389288996
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>>389306501
They made the common D-pad we see on most controllers today with the game n watch, but intelevisions d pad was a fucking circle
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>>389306580
I think the main problem is that Nintendo abused the patent office on most of this stuff despite them not actually having invented any of it.

And all the people and companies who could dispute their claims are MIA
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>>389307139
see
>>389306149
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>>389295665
>comparing Dark Cloud to Zelda

This image has officially gone full retard.
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>>389307231
What's that have to do with the D pad?
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>>389307268
Son't shot themselves in the foot by doing that themselves, or at least the magazine publisher. I'm 100% sure level 5 wanted them to not do that.
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>>389307201
Which things did Nintendo abuse the patent office on? Seems more like other companies are trying to jump on Nintendo with their own vague patents.
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>>389307456
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>>389288834
>Live in Texas
>Get to sue nintendo every 5 years
Feels good
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>>389307682
They patented stuff that was previously patented and invented like the directional pad, and they use their fortune and lawyers to enforce their bogus patents.

They are quite literally an evil company, but nintendo man children will never admit it.
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>>389307139
It's a 16-direction pad. It's a disc over it because it's stupid to have what is basically an asterisk-shaped pad on your controller, but it doesn't literally have 360-direction input.

You know what else is just a disc? Xbox 360 d-pad.
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>>389307742
isn't that analog input, not digital?
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>>389308253
it's digital
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>>389288996
what the hell?! I hate Nintendo now!
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>>389308414
Oh ok. Still the one from the game and watch game is still the one almost all controllers use, so I don't exactly see the innovative credit going to that design.
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>>389307853
>Get to waste money and resources while nintendo barely has to lift a finger to dismiss your suits
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>>389308081
Nintendo patented their design for a plus control pad, not the very concept of directional pads. They've never tried to go after anyone for using directional pads.
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>>389309389
Yes they have, Madcatz in particular had a C&D thrown at them.
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>>389309542
Could you provide a source? Were their targeted for using their own d-pad design?
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>>389307201
Patents are supposed to be about novel implementations, not novel ideas.

So Nintendo's patent about how their specific d-pad works is a valid patent.

A generic patent about 'a pad that allows you to input a direction' without a mechanism is not valid, and if another implementation is created it wouldn't necessarily cover it.

That's how everybody in the industry was able to create their own d-pads, analog sticks, shoulder buttons, etc.
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>>389309821
Don't have it offhand, but it was around 1998-9 when they made pic related. The original design had the standard + design instead of the circular pad.
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>>389310530
If so and it was the same mechanism internally Nintendo probably had a valid claim. Madcatz may have jumped the gun on that one, the d-pad patent expired not long after that.
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>>389310763
It was valid sure, they had the patent. But they also got the patent with "greasy palms & shady backdoor deals." Still, a legit C&D on MadCatz.

Howard Lincoln should be registered as a Fire Hazard.
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>>389311002
>But they also got the patent with "greasy palms & shady backdoor deals."
Welcome to the wonderful world of patents. They're kind of all like that.
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>>389311268
Tangentially related, but it's pretty much why I hate Disney.
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>>389292546
Imagine the whining from the sonybros if an image like this was made but for the shit Sony apparently did first in their eyes.
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>>389288996
wtf I hate Nintendo now
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>>389288834
>TIL people (/v/ in this case) don't know what "Patent sharks" are.
>People/minor companies that do nothing but take out patents on incredibly generalized ideas and technology then go after big companies in hopes for a settlement
>Big companies would rather pay $10m in a settlement to a small patent shark than $100m in courts and lawyer fees
>Mfw /v/ thinks Nintendo got owned big time when they really just threw some pocket change at a patent shark to shut them up
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>>389300398
The /sonygaf/ is strong in this post
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What do you faggots get out of defending a corporation who doesn't give a metric shit about you?
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>>389312284
I dunno. Games to fucking play I guess
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>>389312284
The satisfaction of pissing off the opponent's fanbase while feeling like a smug asshole. It's the only reason the Sonydiots keep using the goldface in the first place.
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>>389312284
except nintendo has shown time and time again it cares about it's fans. nevermind the fact they deliver some of the greatest games of the generation (and of all time), their has been numerous occasions where they reply back to letters. also My Nintendo and Amiibos were a love letter to fans.

to not love nintendo is to not love video games. they are one of the best if not best companies out there.
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>>389312361
You get free games for sucking their corporate dick?
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>>389312462
nice bait
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>>389288996
Ayo hol up! *smacks lips* didn't us blacks invent all dat sheeeeet back in egypt while them nippas wuz livin in dem lil ol caves? Because wewewewewewe wuzzzzz daaa kangzzzz in uuuhhhhh sheeeeeeeiiiiit!!!!!!!
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>>389288996
>>389288834
I see sonyfanboys stopped being subtle in their hate against Nintendo
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>>389312462
I wish someone would post that screencap where the guy was going "YOU ARE LITERALLY SAVING GAMING BY BUYING A WII U, BUY IT NOW"
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>Etika claiming victory on one of his videos where he harasses a poor Patel demostrating his handheld at his booth.
Is Etika the ultimate fanboy?
Do all Nintendo fanboys have shit stains on their chairs like Etika?
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>>389313056
there was a black kingdom in Egypt the Nubians ruled but it didn't last very long and alot of black people are not related to them
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>>389313056
t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>389288834
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>>389288834
The Switch is a lie.
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>>389319094
Barbosa
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>It's another autistic blunderfag thread
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>>389288834
I did it 1st =/= I did it right/ Made it popular

Sony made the Wand 1st, Motion did not take off till Wii
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>>389288996
A lot of those are innovations though. Nintendo didn't invent analog but they did invent the thumb stick
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>>389323941
>Nintendo didn't invent analog but they did invent the thumb stick
that's where your wrong
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>>389324880
You can go back even further. Hell, you could consider the Atari 5200's analog to be a thumb stick.
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wow, I thought "Nintendo drone" was a meme
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>>389288834

>Nintendo sued

This is the, what, 300th time that they've been sued by a copyright troll? The same result will ensue, just like Wii, just like Wii U. the copyright troll will lose and it will be business as usual.
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>>389325087
all this stuff makes me feel so young because i know jackshit about it
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>>389325258
Never too late to learn, anon.
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>Nintendo makes something before Sony
>Sony gets praised for improving it and standardizing it
>Some other company makes something before Nintendo 100 years ago
>They get shat on for improving it and standardizing it
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>>389288834
>Nintendo's "innovations," but they already existed before Nintendo go their hands on them
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>>389325416
Sony/v/ everyone
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Innovation=/=invention
Goddamn did you fuckers even pass 3rd grade with that grasp of the english language
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>>389325564

Where do you think we are?
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>>389306169
>anal vore
>Sonyfag

I'm not surprised .
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>>389325491
>>389325416
yeah but show me where sony says they made something first sues people because of it and does it multiple times
gameboy ds 3ds snes nes are the only good nintendo systems
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>>389325616
wrong it's going up his penis
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>>389325664
Do you even know how patents work anon?

Pick up a book and go educate yourself. Patents =/= invention either.
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>>389325664
>I have 0 idea how copyright laws work
Really makes my synapses fire

Also how many times nintendo did it anyway
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>>389288996
>vmu
>"screen"
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>>389289984
>>389296506
>>389297023
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>>389326673
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>>389301068
Buying a copy of a game is different from creating the game. One gives you the right to the rom and the other does not
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>>389326983
Why didn't they make their own ROM then, rather than taking someone else's rip?
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>>389288996
>Wii U
>VMU

They aren't even remotely comparable. That's like saying the IPad ripped off Tamogatchi
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>>389300267
>>389300487
>>389300790
>>389301485
>>389302343
>>389302754
Nintendo can be sued if the guy that created how to do the roms want to but he literally disappeared on the internet and only in contact with a few if they are lucky if he responds.

Nintendo owns the code or the game code but let's called that unknown guy "That Guy". That Guy created the container, how it is contained,etc of the game code. Nintendo also didn't create the emulation code which will only work because of That Guy which That Guy also created the emulator for it. Most if not all nes emulation out there is based on That Guy's code even the one in your nes classic mini.

Because /v/ knows their food, this is like some guy buying a Big Mac, copying how they create a Big Mac, putting it in his own container that he created then Big Mac copying his copied Big Mac and his container.
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>>389327429
>then Mcdonalds copying his copied Big Mac and his container and his special way of eating it
fix*
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>>389295557
Does this picture mean to imply that there weren't consumer electronics being charged in an upright position prior to 2000's PSP cradle?

Cause that is hilarious. Bravo.
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>>389327883
>>389327883
2009* that is.
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>>389327484
Adding more to this. And to be clear, I am not saying Nintendo can't sue That Guy because they can.

This is also why i doubt Nintendo will release an N64 mini. Nintendo will literally need to reverse-engineer chips/hardware/software of other companies and their own and then create a perfect emulation or perfect emulation for it or else stealing emulation online means you will have shit emulation that only works because of game per game hacks. This means really good people and Nintendo does not have that when most if not all of their consoles are easily hacked/modded/reverse-engineered. But hey, nes classic also has shit emulation so they might.
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>>389327429
But what if that guy was Nintendo?
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>>389328106
>But what if that guy was Nintendo?
No. Some old school video game journos know his identity and they kept his identity a secret. An info got leaked probably decades ago that he is brazilian and in his 60s now so he probably does not care anymore.
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>>389328101
Nintendo's already released emulated Nintendo 64 games on Virtual Console for Wii and Wii U. What does making consoles that are easy to mod have to do with making emulators?
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>>389327112
Some companies tend to loose source code of old games.
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>>389328271
What if he became Nintendo? What if he is Nintendo right now?
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>>389328473
Also stolen. Search online and you can see how easy it is to inject internet roms so they can work like VC games.
>What does making consoles that are easy to mod have to do with making emulators?
What I mean by that is they are known to have shit programmers/engineers for how big their company is.
>>389328736
>Nintendo releasing an emulator/roms for free decades ago so they can use it today
okay
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>>389328607
They could do what anyone could do and make a new rom straight from a cartridge. But they didn't, they used someone else's dump of the ROM. Violating their own policy about downloading ROMs.
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>>389328928
Someone's method of dumping the rom too.
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>>389328902
They got the games to run emulated on the Wii and Wii U, though. How did they do that if there was no decent emulator to steal, and they have no staff capable of creating emulators?
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>>389329186
Are all N64 games emulated? And the emulation is pretty shit. Just werksâ„¢
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>>389288996
hol' up

>Real-Time day and night cycle
>Image shown is of Ocarina of Time

Can somebody fucking tell this faggot what real time means? Also I looked up Enduro to see what it was all about

https://youtu.be/7VhWpihhKzc

Oh you're right OP. That's so much better.
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>>389329368
>better
not the topic bud
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>>389329495
gee wilikers you sure got me sport
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>>389325212
anon... nintendo lost.
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>>389329303
I think there have been 25 or so Nintendo 64 games officially released on virtual console? What would you say is bad about the emulation in particular?
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>>389327883
No, the PSP go could be inserted into the cradle and it would output on your tv and charge at the same time. Youl can also play a PSP Go with a duelshock 3. The PSP Go was the Switch before the Switch.
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>>389330172
Playing handheld games on the TV is an old idea, though.
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>>389330172
Conceptualy it was done bofore. Hell, it's one of the oldest features imaginable for any handheld: being able to use it like a computer device when portability is not necessary.

But why so few handheld devices have easy ways of outputting for TV in an easy, user friendly way?

The accomplishment of the Switch is not inovating the tech or the realizing a concept.
It's merit is in translating and providing that concept in an easy and desirable way and convincing the consumers to use it.

How many people even bothered with the PSP go? How many of those few really took advantage of being able to hook it up to a TV and using a standard controller?

Finding a market and creating a demand for something is sometimes more important in the buseness than crating the technology or coming up with the idea itself.
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>>389325212
lol they got raped but only 10million dollars, not 140 millions like they asked
but they still lost and will pay up, there is your INNOVATION
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>>389330814
>Finding a market and creating a demand for something is sometimes more important in the buseness than crating the technology or coming up with the idea itself.
but that's not the point of conversation. It's not about who did it better.
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>>389306358
Yeah thats how absolutely pathetic that list is. You can see the same ridiculous childish mentality continue today.

>b-but BotW doesn't do anything new! You could climb in Mine Craft! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>389306731
>Polygonal Game
>Mat
>Foot controller

It a list written by a fucking idiot.
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>>389307742
It's not a D-Pad you fucking retard. If I nail four wheels and a chair to a plank of wood, that doesn't make it a car.

>b-but it has four wheels and a chair! It's obviously a car!
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>>389331590
The digital inputs are what make it a dpad
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>>389329743
Nintendo will appeal. And win.
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>>389331005
Nintendo will not pay a single cent. They've lost cases to patent trolls in the past. This sort of shit happens all the time, and Texas courts are especially bad when it comes to siding with patent trolls. Nintendo will simply take this to appeal and win there.
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>>389331715
>get sued
>"T-THEY'LL WIN I'M SURE OF IT"
>lose
>"T-T-T-THEY'LL WIN I-I'M SURE OF IT"
>lose again
>"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
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>>389331693
Nope. Thats what you WANT to think make a D-Pad
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>>389301485
>>389302754
>>389327429
ROM = Read-Only Memory
Every NES cart has ROM which contains the raw game data.
ROM dump = copied raw game data
A proper ROM dump is exactly what's on the cart ROM (therefore exactly Nintendo's).
That particular ROM _file_ is the ROM dump with extra info tacked onto it from the cart but not the ROM portion of it. It's there for whatever emulator might use it to aid in emulation, but not essential. The ROM data doesn't tell the machine/emulator how to interpret/run it - the machine/emulator interprets/runs the ROM dump based on how the machine/emulator was programmed to do so.
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>>389331834
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-pad
>A D-pad (short for directional pad or digital pad
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>>389331827
>>389331827
Not really, happens all the time. Nintendo are frequent targets for patent trolls.

In the past, iLife have tried to sue FitBit and other companies over bullshit patent claims.

If iLife were REALLY concerned about protecting their patent, they would have sued dozens of other companies who manufacturered motion devices, including Sony. But no, they went after Nintendo because the Wii was a massive success.
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>>389331946
Kek, very first thing on that page:

>A Famicom controller. The D-pad (cross shape on left) first came to prominence on the controller for the Famicom.

Also from wiki:
>A precursor to the D-pad was the four directional buttons used in arcade games such as UPL's Blockade (1976)[2] and SNK's Vanguard (1981).[3] A precursor to the standard D-pad on a video game console was used by the Intellivision

PRECURSOR.
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>>389298380
So do micro$haft, mApple, and every other corporation; they take a current thing and improve on it, that's how inovation works.
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>>389298128
I have one of these from my childhood.
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All the faggots that claim >>389289984 is ANYTHING like Nintendo's D-Pad have obviously never actually played with it. You can talk about technicalities all you want, but in practice, these two controllers are NOTHING alike. When Sega made their own D-Pad, they got around the patent by making the insides (the thing that makes the Intellivision a "D-Pad" in you guys' argument) completely different. It's not the technical insides that people give a shit about. It's the cross shaped directional pad on the outside itself.
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>>389332784
>It's not the technical insides that people give a shit about
but that is the topic's discussion.
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>>389333116
But it's not what people like about Nintendo's controller. It's not the thing that people care about when copying Nintendo's controller. What exactly are people trying to discredit Nintendo for, then, if not the thing that people are salty about everyone loving about Nintendo? It's just a bullshit technicality, and the Sega Genesis controller is proof that you can change the very thing you guys are arguing about and still have a great controller, as that technicality that isn't what Nintendo first came up isn't the thing that made the G&W and NES controllers as great as they were. It was the external design itself, which Nintendo DID come up with.
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>>389333496
>But it's not what people like about Nintendo's controller.
irrelevant to the discussion.
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>>389335073
There is no discussion. The modern D-Pad (and by extension - practically EVERYTHING about how we interact with video games today) is almost solely attributable designs. Just because you do not want to accept it doesn't make it any less true.
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>>389293923
The reason why nintendo made the Gameboy was because of the LCD glut because of the calculator boom of the late 80's.
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>>389335298
>>389307742
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>>389335364
Not a D-Pad.
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>>389335436
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-pad
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>>389307268
So like Sony and it's fans?
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>>389288996
Many of these are Nintendo offering more practical or refined iterations than the original
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>>389335485
See >>389332310
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>>389335658
https://www.gamespot.com/forums/playstation-nation-1000002/haze-the-halo-killer-26033948/
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>>389335668
precursor can mean first or before buddy. It's okay that the big N didn't invent the DPad. Innovated sure, but it wasn't the first.
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>>389335806
Pictured: Precursor to the iPhone.
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>>389335965
if you wanna be a stickler about it, sure. Sadly not patentable.
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>>389333116
If it's the technical details, not the basic idea, that are the important thing, then a lot of the points being raised are pretty questionable.
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>>389288996

>Not putting the images of the "original" features instead
>Putting things that never were and never will be hold by patent

Why you are like this /v/?
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>>389335965
Yeah if someone said that Apple invented the telephone, he would be just as incorrect as you. Your assertation is just as valid as "Halo was the first FPS".
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>>389320323
You gotta be one silly monkey to think every big corporation comes up with the ideas. No they have the ideas because they have all the money not because they innovated.

Being a corporation just means taking th3 best ideas and implementing them the best. Which is why sony will always be king.
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If you're a nintendofag, that's fine, but if you're a fat and ugly nintendofag then you should seriously fucking kill yourself you disgusting subhuman.
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>>389336186
I never anything of the sort. I was merely demonstrating the application of the word "PRECURSOR".

Please learn to read.

The D-Pad (our moden interpretation of it - a design still in use today) was invented by Nintendo. This is historical fact and all the crying in the world will never ever change that.
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>>389336390
>was invented by Nintendo
but that's wrong
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>>389336476
https://youtu.be/CnmMDzgTB7o
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>>389336390
If you have to attach that many qualifiers to make it so that Nintendo invented it then chances are they never invented anything
If you cannot simply state "The D-pad was invented by nintendo" and be correct, then the D-pad was not invented by Nintendo.
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>>389336562
>linking Gaming Historian who, like MatPat, changes some narrative around to fit the video he's making.
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>>389336620

See >>389336562

I bet you would deny the holocaust happened too.
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>>389336562
DELET
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>>389336562
>Gaying Historian
Signs someone has given up. Mr. "Gaming Historian" was not alive when the Famicom launched.
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>>389288834
can people fucking stop using badaboom? this is the impact equivalent for gaymers
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>>389336754
Can you refute even one point in my post without trying to get me to give ad revenue to your youtube channel?
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>>389336754
>unironically linking Gaming Historian to try to prove a point

Okay /v/, when I thought I have seen it all, you prove that you can always go deeper levels of stupid.
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You know what else Sony stole from Nintendo? Being the number one console.
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>>389336939
>Impying I'm Gaming Historian.

Fuck me. Everything in that video explains EXACTLY why Nintendo are credited with inventing the D-Pad.

I'll throw you another bone - every single major console for the past 25 years has taken their joypad design directly from Nintendo's SFC/SNES pad.

Every. Single. One.

Let that sink in for a moment - Nintendo were the company who decided HOW we will interact with video games.


Keep living indenial.
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>>389336620
>If you have to attach that many qualifiers to make it so that Nintendo invented it then chances are they never invented anything
This is a fallacy. One part of your sentence isn't the logical conclusion of your next part. I'm sure there's a name for that but I can't be assed to look it up.
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>>389336620
>If you cannot simply state "The D-pad was invented by nintendo" and be correct, then the D-pad was not invented by Nintendo.
This is what he claimed:
"The D-Pad (our moden interpretation of it - a design still in use today) was invented by Nintendo." You didn't disprove this.
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>>389337223
not invented
Innovated
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>>389337176
For four generations straight even, Nintendo must be kicking themselves for backing out of the Playstation deal for the SNES.
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>>389337010
>A fact reinforced by historical affirmation and testimony of countless sources is not true. REEEEEEEEEEEEE!

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF /v/.
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>>389337409
You haven't stated a single fact and haven't cited a single source that is able to affirm your claim.
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>>389337396
No they wouldn't. The Sony deal could have killed Nintendo if they followed it through.
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>>389288996
Who the fuck ever heard of any of these other things, though?
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>>389337223
>>389337409
>WATCH THE VIDEO WATCH THE VIDEO WATCH THE VIDEO WATCH THE VIDEO WATCH THE VIDEO WATCH THE VIDEO WATCH THE VIDEO WATCH THE VIDEO WATCH THE VIDEO WATCH THE VIDEO
How about you stop advertising your youtube channel and argue normally?
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>>389337479
Have you tried wikipedia?

>REEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>389292546
/vr/ already debunked this
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>>389337487
And nothing of value would have been lost.
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>>389337487
Like it killed Sony.
Oh wait. It made them the number1 video game console creator for 20 years straight.
Really encourages your brain-processor to revert back from passive state.
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>>389337572
>wikipedia
It keeps getting better and better.
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>>389337572
Oh yeah Wikipedia, the same site where Red Letter Media and Jim Sterling can be cited as sources on articles.
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>>389337646
The denial continues.

Ok so while you are willing to completely deny the historically recored fact and the countless sources which cite Nintendo as the inventor of the D-Pad, why don't YOU provide some evidence to contrary?

Provide one single shred of proof from anywhere of someone saying Nintendo DIDN'T invent it. If what you're saying is true, then it should have plenty of reputable discussions over it. I'll wait.
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>>389337601
>The deal would have killed Nintendo because it would have given Sony total control over all their properties
>JUST LIKE HOW IT KILLED SONY HUH HUH HUH xD!
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>>389312284
We don't call them drones for nothing.
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>>389337875
>The deal would have killed Nintendo because it would have given Sony total control over all their properties
xD

Jesus fucking christ, /v/
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>>389337870
>deny the historically recored fact and the countless sources which cite Nintendo as the inventor of the D-Pad

Such as...? Wikipedia and Gaming Historian?
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>>389337646
>>389337712

>Lets pretend Wikipedia doesn't count because it blows our bullshit argument clean out of the water.

You can't make this up.
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>>389337870
The burden of proof is on you and you alone. You are the one claiming something to be true, after all.
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>>389338045
>wikipedia blows anything out of the water
>citing wikipedia for reliable information in the first place
Sure, drone.
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>>389338045
So your sources thus far are
>Youtube channel
>Website that cites youtube channel
Hey anon, did you know Lewis "Linkara" Lovhaug himself is cited as a source on Wikipedia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Wasserman#Return_to_Power_Rangers
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>>389292546
KEK according to Sony fanboys, this game has better lighting and shadows than Conker's Bad Fur Day
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>>389337479
Nintendo was recognized and presented with an Emmy award for their invention of the D-pad.

https://www.gamingnexus.com/FullNews/Nintendo-wins-an-Emmyfor-the-D-pad/Item3466.aspx
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>>389338205
meanwhile here is Conker
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>>389338261
It's great that Nintendo was finally recognized for its substantial contribution (too bad Yokoi wasn't there to see it--he died in a car accident in 1997), I just wonder how long until the Wii Remote gets some awards.
>I just wonder how long until the Wii Remote gets some awards.

Oh boy.
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y'know OP, you could've just said "i want a Nintendo hate thread"
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>>389338529
That happened in the following year.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2008/01/08/nintendo-awarded-emmy
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>>389338562
That would not have worked, you have to be a bit more subtle than that.
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>>389330428
>missing the point by this much
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>>389292546
And according to Sonyfriends, this game has better wave effects than Wave Race 64
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>>389338621
That kind of makes this award completely worthless, given tecent events. Nintendo just got sued and lost for stealing that technology.
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>>389338651
Here is the real Wave Race 64...
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>>389338621
http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/09/01/jury-rules-against-nintendo-in-wii-remote-lawsuit

top kek
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>>389338020
>>389338138
>>389338063

https://www.gamecrate.com/gaming-literacy-nintendo-game-watch-and-invention-d-pad/16178

https://www.polygon.com/nintendo/2017/4/29/15485596/the-history-of-the-d-pad-console-gamings-indispensable-control

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>389338695
In Texas patent troll paradise courts. They did not actually steal any technology. They are appealing the case to a more sensible court.
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>>389338991
>game journo site
>game journo site
>game journo site
you wanna keep going with this?
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>>389338991
THAT DOESN'T COUNT! DELETE THIS!
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>>389339047
Oh the denial. Where's your counter proof? Do you have any? No? Not a single source? Oh deary me. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>389339047
You got BTFO son. Take it like a man.
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>>389339047
Yeah, that's right. Nintendo paid all those journalists to rewrite history.
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>>389289984
Milton Bradley's Cosmo Hunter on Microvision still predates Famicom and Game & Watch Donkey Kong so try harder nint0ddler
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>anything
>original
LOL get a load of those fags
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>>389339557
It's not a D-Pad you fucking idiot.
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>>389294086
Cosmic Hunter still predates Nintendo you shill
So no they did not invent the D-Pad >>389339557
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>>389339557
That's not a D-Pad. And if you think it is, I've attached an image of automobile.

It's got 4 wheels and a chair right? Must be an automobile.
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>>389339685
It's not a D-pad because nintendo didn't make it. Did you know Nintendo themselves mentions the Microvision as inspiration for the Game & Watch?
http://nintendoeverything.com/former-nintendo-designer-on-the-creation-of-game-watch-game-boy-ds/
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>>389339685
It fucking is
Look at the damn shape you nintenigger
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>>389339882
>That's not a D-Pad.
Yes it is you dumb nint0ddler
No matter how much you cry and moan it doesn't change the fact that your favorite company didn't fucking invent it
Not to mention the concept of the D-Pad exists as early as 1976 Arcades you fucking idiot

Now get the fuck out of here retard
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>>389295505
It did before fucking Overrated of Time atleast
Fucking Megaman Legends did it a year later too

But the industry at large is always so busy sucking that ninty cock
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>>389339867

WOW! Milton Bradley invented the D-Pad? Thats HUGE! There's so many countless sources citing Nintendo as the inventor of the D-Pad. Looks like we've been lied to.

Do you have anything to collaborate what you're saying? I mean surely this must have been spoken about somewhere right? The man deserves recognition for this feat of engineering design.
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>>389339557
>that
>a d-pad
UNDERAGE LEAVE
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>>389296372
You mean Robin Hood?
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>>389338727
>drops a foot out of the tray to turn in choppy conditions
kek, this is how you fuck up your knee
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>>389340064
Nintendo
>>389339915
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>>389296661
This is the same case with the 3D you dumbass
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>>389339980
Keep stomping your feet. You have no proof to back up what you're saying do you? not a single shred you can post here.

Meanwhile I've posted tons of sources which reinforce the historically accepted fact that Nintendo invented the D-Pad.

Did you know that Nintendo earned a Technology & Engineering Emmy Award for it? Oh dear, how will you ever recover?
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>>389297465
They just lost one for the Wiimotes
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>>389340242
Did you know Nintendo earned an Emmy award for inventing motion control and just got proven 4 days ago that they stole it?
http://ign.com/articles/2017/09/01/jury-rules-against-nintendo-in-wii-remote-lawsuit
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>>389297423
>E-Celeb faggotry
Kill yourself
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>>389340064
You've got it all wrong. This right here is the first d-pad.
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>>389340334
Bruh they didn't get the emmy for motion sensing ONLY
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>>389338991
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@389340367
which button is for left?
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>>389340297
iLife are noted patent trolls who have launched similar suits against FitBit and UnderArmor.

If they were serious about protecting their patents, they would have sued Sony and tons of other motion sensor devices. Instead they're going after Nintendo because the Wii made the most money.

It will get tossed out in the appeal.
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>>389306149
No fucking shit
It came out one full year before Donkey Kong on Game & Watch
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>>389338205
Those are some neat and interesting shadow and lighting effects, the effects are not exactly like Conker though. At least Chicken Run runs at a stable smooth framerate while not looking like a blurry mess.
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>>389340581
>they would have sued Sony and tons of other motion sensor devices.
Why sue the imitator of the imitator and not just the imitator?
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>>389331295
It doesn't do anything new though. Everything it's doing have been done before on Western RPG's for fuck sake
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>>389340564
4.
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>>389340710
If someone infringed your idea, wouldn't you want a cut of the profits they made?

Sony's Wiimote rippoff barely sold. No money for them there.

The Wii, on the other hand, sold over 100 million units...
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>>389308773
>Still the one from the game and watch game
Donkey Kong Game and Watch came out one year after Milton Bradley's Cosmic Hunter on Microvision

Even Nintendo designers admitted they ripped it off
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>>389340729
Triggered.
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>>389312462
>except nintendo has shown time and time again it cares about it's fans.
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>>389336562
>E-Celeb faggotry
>>>/trash/
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>>389338205
This game looks visually far better than Conker
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>>389341257
Nice argument. Less ignore all the compelling evidence because it contradicts your bullshit belief.

Feel free to post any evidence that Nintendo DIDN'T invent the D-Pad whenever you're ready.
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>>389338261
Emmy isn't worth jackshit
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>>389340064
No
Mattel was the one who invented the D-Pad on consoles
Milton Bradley made it the cross-shaped D-Pad we know now
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>>389340110
Nint0ddler leave
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>>389341432
http://nintendoeverything.com/former-nintendo-designer-on-the-creation-of-game-watch-game-boy-ds/
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>>389341525
Post evidence.

If what you say is true. It should be well documented.
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>>389340242
They literally ripped off Milton Bradley and they even fucking admitted it top kek
http://nintendoeverything.com/former-nintendo-designer-on-the-creation-of-game-watch-game-boy-ds/
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>>389341596
What does that have to do with the D-Pad friendo?
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>>389292546
Nintenbabbies blown the fuck out holy shit
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>>389341648
No they didn't. Are you a child?
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>>389341797
>For me, the real thing that gave birth to the Game & Watch is when we managed to get our hands on an MB Microvision. I loved this machine and played the Breakout clone a lot. But we did not understand why the machine had to be so bigl So we first tried to make a portable console that people could really carry in their pockets,
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>>389341795
Top kek. Yes, desperately try and salvage the situation. Haters have been BTFO out on this thread since the beginning and are waiting for bump post limit to be reached.
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>>389341850
So? Nothing on the D-pad
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>>389341850
That has fuck all to do with the Dpad. They just openly admit they liked this cool little electronic toy and wanted to make their own - adding their own innovations like the Dpad along the way.
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>>389341968
The quote was posted because you denied Nintendo admitting to ripping off Milton Bradley, which they did.
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>>389341968
hmmmm a designer for nintendo's first system with a d-pad had the idea for the system from the first game console with a d-pad... i wonder what this has to do with the d-pad?
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>>389342194
I denied nothing, it's my first post
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>>389342194
No I implied that Milton didn't invent the D-Pad. Because he fucking didn't.

Your argument boils down "Durr hurr Nintendo didn't invent video games! Nintenbros BTFO".

You're an idiot.
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>>389342390
You didn't imply anything, you stated the following was wrong:
>They literally ripped off Milton Bradley and they even fucking admitted it
which it isn't.
>>
What Nintendo is trying to do is popularize gimmicks and features that aren't standard on the other big platforms. The issue isn't that they're copying anything because that's basically the industry norm. The issue is most of their gimmicks suck and are tremendous wastes of money that could've gone to higher speed hardware or more durable shells like they used to make
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>>389342390
Anon BTFO
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>>389289984
This. I actually owned one of these when I was a kid. The controller was such a piece of shit. You guys don't even know what bad controls are until you've used that shit.
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>>389342473
They didn't admit anything
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>>389338651
>>389338727
Dead in the Water looks better
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>>389342559
Anon I don't know if you can read english but they state in the article that the Microvision was why they made the Game & Watch.
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>>389342473
No here's my post >>389340064

You must be talking about someone else.

Doesn't change the reality that Nintendo invented the D-Pad.
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>>389303843
So you're mad because a REAL OG GAMER BEFORE THE NES ERA IS WHOOPING YOUR ASS?
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>>389302101
>Trying to prentend that Alpha Waves (a barely functioning tech demo) is on the same planet as Mario 64 is just fucking laughable.
It's a 3D platfomer
It came out before Mario 64
It invented the 3D platformer. Deal with it.
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>>389302831
>Japs
>improving cartoons
You weebshits need to be executed
It's been 80 years and Anime still hasn't caught up to Snow White
>>
the motherfucking Switch is in stock near me. How can I get it for cheaper than $300?
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>>389303608
When Japanese games had style and elegenace
Good times
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>>389343089
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>>389330172
>>389338637
Sega Nomad did this shit in the 90s
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>>389342642
Jesus Christ that article has Nintendo employees affectionately talking about their early inspiration.

Your argument is that they really a cool little electronic toy and decided to make their own (adding their own unique innovation and ideas).

>Holy shit they ripped them off!

Fuck me, by that argument nobody innovates anything. Atari ripped somebody off! Mattel ripped somebody off! Colecco ripped somebody off! Intellivision ripped somebody off!

Where do think Milton Bradley took his inspiration from?

At point do you draw a line under SANITY just to preserve your desperate need to believe the bullshit lie that Nintendo didn't invent the D-Pad?

>Apple totally ripped off John Logie Baird!>>389342675
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>>389330814
No, no, no
All Nintendo did was take the Sega Nomad and make it needlessly complicated because these fucking babies are still obsessed with a 2006 fad
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>>389343018
There were fucking TONS of 3D platformers before Mario 64. The game wasn't innovative because it was a 3D platformer. It was innovative because of it's game design which still gets ripped off today in 2017.

Deal with it.
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>>389339393
They don't have to do that since these "game journous" are underage millennilal faggots who never played a pre-NES game in their lives
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>>389341432
Evidence? You mean the evidence that Mattel's Intellivision came out 4 years before the Famicom? Sure thing.
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>>389343330
>Where do think Milton Bradley took his inspiration from?
What Nintendo consoles were available in American stores before 1979?
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>>389341619
Look at the fucking thread you idiot >>389339557
It takes a few minutes on Google/Wiki to get this info and this shit has already been documented for years
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>>389343551
It's not a Dpad. Is it?
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>>389341932
>Haters
You need to be 18 to post here
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>>389340696
>>389341406
The footage of Chicken Run is from an emulator while the footage of Conker is from the real console
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>>389343648
See >>389339882

Yup that looks like a car alright.

Just because something looks like something, it doesn't mean it is that thing.

Otherwise it would be common fucking knowledge. A quick search on Google will tell you exactly who invented the Dpad.
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>>389342126
It's literally a complete rip-off from Cosmic Hunter

>>389342390
The D-Pad was created on 70s Arcades
Mattel was the first console manufacturer to incorporate it on a console
Milton-Bradley were the ones who introduced the cross-shaped D-Pad in Cosmic Hunter
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I've never seen Nintendicksucklets getting SO triggered and BTFO eternally in a single thread like in this one.

>N-N-NOOOOOOOOOOOO YAMEROOOOOOOOOOOOO MUH NINTENDO INVENTED VIDEYA GAIMU!!!1 EVERYONE ELSE A FRAUD AND A SHIT A SHIIIIIIIIIIIT! *shits violently into anal prolapse
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>>389343878
Seems to me like /v/ gets continually BTFO out over this image time and time again and can never provide a single shred of proof to support any of it, meanwhile Nintendo are still sitting pretty in the history books as the king of video game innovation. Oh my.
>>
Good lord, all these retarded Nintendo shiteaters in the thread. Trylu Nintendogaf.
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>>389343404
I never said innovative you idiot
I just said that Alpha Waves was the first 3D platformer. This is whole point of the original image in the first place. A lot of people out there think Mario 64 was the first 3D platformer when it wasn't.

Mario 64 doesn't get ripped of anyways. If anything most 3D platformers ripped off Gex 2/Banjo Kazooie/Spyro's collectathon style
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>>389339557
So why isn't the image referring to this thing over the wheel the intellivision had?

Could it be because it never actually cared about being accurate and just wanted to be a gigantic troll image while still taking a shit on Nintnedo?
In the end >>389288996 is nothing but a shitposting image.
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>>389343806
Source? Oh, you have none.

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>389343659
Yes it is
It's a D-Pad with a disc above it
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>>389344074
>If anything most 3D platformers ripped off Gex 2/Banjo Kazooie/Spyro's collectathon style
hmm and i wonder which game those games ripped off
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>>389343782
I've seen Conker on emulator and it doesn't look that good
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>>389344074
The point is nobody EVER said Mario 64 was the first 3D platformer. So image wa clearly made by an idiot.

But you could argue that Mario 64 was the first 3D platformer done right.
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>>389342638
this is what delusion looks like
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>>389343792
It literally is
It functions exactly like a D-Pad(Digital input not Analog)

>Otherwise it would be common fucking knowledge.
No it fucking wouldn't you fuckhead
Most people started gaming after the NES and they could give a flying fuck about video game history
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>>389344194
N64 emulation is shit, that's why you have to show the real console footage. Anyway, the reason Chicken Run looks sharper is because it is being run on an emulator at a high-resolution, while the Conker footage is 240p since the real N64 is doing it.
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>>389344135
There were many fumbling attempts at various ways of controlling video games in those early days.

Nintendo invented the one which became the standard we still use today. This is not my opinion. It's a historically recorded fact.
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>>389344086
I'm not posting sources for the 100th time
Reported
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>>389298747
>it's another "laymen try to discuss IP law" episode

This place is at its worst when you retards think you're attorneys. Christ.
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>>389344276
>Most people started gaming after the NES and they could give a flying fuck about video game history

People who devote their lives to technological engineering and even those with a passion for video games would want to see the true creator of the Dpad get acknowledgement.

And yet, everyone says Nintendo invented it. What could they mean by this?
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>>389344314
neither PS4 nor xbox use cross-shaped D-pads, in fact everyone that isn't nintendo uses disc-shaped d-pads, sorry buddy
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>>389344157
Sonic 3D Blast with the whole flicky collecting bullshit
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>>389344326
You've never posted a single source. Not one. Because there is none.

All you have are pics of old tech from the video game primordial soup and claiming "THAT's a D-Pad. Trust me!"

Fuck off.
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>>389344204
>The point is nobody EVER said Mario 64 was the first 3D platformer.
Bull fucking shit
I see so many people out there who say it all the time
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>>389344432
Because Nintendo fucking patented their design so nobody would steal it.

But the underling tech is the same. Not only that, the entire design of the modern joypad layout on every major console for the past 25 years is taken directly from their design.
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>>389344426
Do you have access to the original patent? Do you have the exact specifications listed within that patent which make it clear what a digital pad is, and that Milton is the holder? I've seen this discussed ad nauseum but I don't think I've ever seen the actual fucking patent linked.
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>>389344609
They're fucking retarded kids no doubt.
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>>389344426
>People who devote their lives to technological engineering and even those with a passion for video games would want to see the true creator of the Dpad get acknowledgement.
Don't think they didn't try. But they can't compete with Nintendo's popularity so the word never reached many people.

>Everyone says Nintendo invented it
Plebs on a massive scale dictate popular knowledge. This isn't anything new.
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>>389344287
>N64 emulation is shit
It literally looks better than the real console because you can disable those nasty anti-aliasing and bi-linear filters

I've seen Conker at high res it doesn't look quite that good
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>>389344314
Nintendo didn't invent shit
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>>389344704
Interesting enough, the patent for Nintendo's design ran out several years ago so anybody can now use that design. The original patents should now be available for public use but I've never been bothered enough to actually see if we could access them.
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>>389344827
Emulation lets you render at any resolution you want, with higher color depth than the real console. That's nothing new.

The reason N64 emulation is shit (putting aside broken gameplay) is because the emulator literally does not render the graphics accurately. Which means glitchy or missing special effects, distorted textures, etc.
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>>389344732
No
Old-ass plebs who grew up with it.
Most people don't bother with anything pre-NES because it's "too old"
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>>389344737
>Don't think they didn't try. But they can't compete with Nintendo's popularity so the word never reached many people.

So there IS proof then? Link it. I'll wait.
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>>389344903
Nintendo's patent is right here.

https://www.google.com/patents/US4687200
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>>389344704
You don't need patent when the original portable handheld exists and you can clearly see as light as day that it's a cross-shaped d-pad

And Intellivision having a D-Pad in '79 is pure fact
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>>389288996
>>389292546
>you will never have so much autism you make these bait images
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It doesn't matter who invented it, but who was the first one to get it to the "good enough" stage.

iPod wasn't the first memory-based music player, but it was the first one that wasn't a load of trash. And that's ultimately what made it count.
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>>389345063
Well fuck, cheers. Thats pretty cool.
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>>389338991
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>>389296806
Truly the Dark Souls of game magazines
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>it ain't about who did it first. It's 'bout who did it right"
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>>389345064
>you don't need a patent to discuss whether a thing has been patented

Yes you fucking do. Listen, I know you want to use the law in an attempt to feel superior, but proper legal analysis is like a science. If you want to make a claim that Thing B uses patented material seen Patent A, you must first SHOW THE PATENT IN QUESTION and outline why Thing B is clearly Patent A. This is because patents require very specific and exact language about what the patent protects. Comparing two images does is insufficient to make this argument.

Christ, watching you retards attempt to provide legal analysis is like watching that review attempt to play Cupboy. You're fumbling around with shit you don't understand yet think you know enough to issue a man unconditional conclusion.
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>>389345242
The question of who invented it matters when people say an entity invented something and they didn't.
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>>389345686
Typos because of violent shit I'm currently taking
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>>389345618
>Nintendo did this first
>>No they didn't.
>NOBODY CARES WHO DID IT FIRST!
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>>389345704
People say Nintendo innovated, not invented. Innovated=/=invented
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>>389345704
There were loads of attempts at video game controllers back then. Most of them were abysmal. Nintendo invented a version which worked and became the industry standard.
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>>389345885
This difference only comes about when people use the word "invented" and are subsequently proven wrong. Images like the second post wouldn't exist if it didn't happen constantly.

>>389345992
Nintendo invented the Nintendo DPad. Yes, very astute observation there.
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>>389346219
>Nintendo invented the Nintendo DPad.
No Nintendo invented the modern Dpad. In fact the invented the modern Joypad design which every major console for the past 25 years has used.
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>>389346219
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>>389338270

lol, he doesn't even project a shadow on the ground, whereas chicken run does.
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>>38929815
What's going on in that picture?
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Sometimes people fail to realize just how darn important Nintendo is to the video game industry. Simply put with out Nintendo the entire industry would be unrecognizable and perhaps even nonexistent and a lot of people would have had a lot less fun over their lives regardless of which company you supported wither it be Sega, Sony or Microsoft.

Here is a look at what the world would probally be like with out Nintendo.

With out Nintendo there would be NO Nintendo entertainment system. No Mario, no Zelda, no Metroid nor any of their sequels down the line.

With out the NES Square would have had no platform to publish Final fantasy on and goes bankrupt. Ergo no Final Fantasy 2-12, no Chrono Trigger, no Kingdom hearts or any other Beloved Square franchise would exist today.

With out the NES Enix never would have had a platform to publish the initial Dragon quest on. As a result gaming in Japan dies out.

With out the massive success of the NES there would have been no existing Video game market in place for Sega to attempt to take a piece of the pie. The Master system is never made since they wouldnt risk the money to enter a dead market.

Because of this No Sega genesis, Saturn or Dreamcast ever exist. No Sonic the hedgehog, No Nights into dreams, No Phantasy Stars are ever made.

With out the NES around there is no Super NES around for Nintendo to try and make an add on with Sony. Thus the initial groundwork for the Playstation is never laid and we would have no PS2 or PS3 since Sony would have no incentive to enter what would be a dead market. Thus no Grand theft auto or any other number of fantastic Playstation games are made.

As a result of no Placation threatening there strangle hold on the entertainment hub market Microsoft never bothers to make the X-box or the X-box 360. Its very likely Halo would never be published since with out consol games to help push pc games forward they wouldnt evolve as quickly.
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With out Nintendo there would be no Gameboy. And no Gameboy means no Pokemon whipping out any future the handheld market could have had. With out a handheld market in place nobody bothers to invest money to try and take it over. We would probally never had a PSP then.

Sure with out Nintendo someone would have eventually tried to come along and restart the industry but they probally wouldnt have had the mojo to pull it off. And even if they had everything we know about games as they are NOW would be totally different. Wed have missed out so many legendary games and series it wouldnt even be funny.

So no matter where you loyalties lie always remember to pay respect to Nintendo for what they accomplished. Because if they hadnt been around then neither would be most of your favourite games and systems.

Nintendo took what was a dim wasteland and turned it into a paradise for us all to enjoy. Thanks to them and their efforts past, present and future we ALL have a long bright future of gaming to enjoy.

Long live Nintendo Long living Gaming!
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>>389348138
Innovation and design aside, people also forget that the entire modern video game industry is built upon a foundation that Nintendo put in place. Regional marketing, licencing and quality control were all part of Nintendo's business model.
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>>389339882
That steering mechanism looks awful
>3 crescent wrenches
Yeah the builder is retarded
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>>389348138
I think this is exaggerating things a bit. Sega were already planning to make consoles before the Famicom became popular. Remember, they released their first console SG-1000 literally on the same day as Famicom. Sega were already a successful gaming company from the arcade business.

Sure the industry business model would look slightly different than it did, but Sega would have basically replaced Nintendo in that position. Both companies were equally talented at designing games.
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So in conclusion of this thread: Nintendo didn't invent the D-Pad.
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>>389348138
>With out the NES Square would have had no platform to publish Final fantasy on and goes bankrupt.
Yeah and it's thanks to Nintendo that FF7 moved from N64 to PS1 and forever fucked off from Nintendo systems

Also the gaming crash only affected american home console systems, japan and europe had no "crash" at all
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>>389350293
No, it's proven beyond all doubt countless times in thia thread; Nintendo did not invent *A* D-pad. Nintendo invented *THE* D-pad.
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>>389352428
MOOOOOODS! DELETE THIS!
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>>389352591
so sad, you saved your own picture from this thread
>>389345474
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>>389352805
Imagine not having an argument. For shame.
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>>389353930
The d-pad was invented by Sony.
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>>389288996
>All these buttblasted nintenkiddies rushing patheticly to defend big daddy N everytime this get's posted

Delightful!
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>>389350293
The patent was already posted in the thread >>389345063
People just ignored it.
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>>389354338
You'll find that all the haters got BTFO. It reached 500+ posts because of salty indenial cry babies who cannot handle the truth.
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>>389288996
Who the fuck has ever said Super Mario Bros. was the first side-scroller ever made? Who the fuck ever said Nintendo invented dual analogue or motion control? Who the fuck has said Nintendo invented even half of this shit? Nice re-writing history faggot.
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>>389355643
It's just as lol as this picture >>389292546

Who the fuck ever said that only the N64 could do COLORED fog? kek
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>>389288996
>Wireless controller: Atari CX-42

It's not even the same technology, it's like trying to compare VHS to BluRay.
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