Now why wasn't it like this in the first place?! https:

because the designers have class you fucking swine

>>389256325
Because Genesis.

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>>389256325
Because it fits the rest of the game's coloring scheme and it is trying to look like a saturn age sprite. That and the mod you posted has sonic even bluer than the genesis originals

>>389256325
It was surely done so the characters stick out enough from the backgrounds. Those modded colors look nice on their own but don't seem like a good fit in-game.

>>389256325

Sonic and Knuckles blend into the background too much with that mod, based on watching the video. The lighter colors allow them to pop out more from the darker backgrounds so your eyes never lose them.

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>>389256325
I think my palettes look better.

>>389256325
the original colouring looks like the Sonic on the Genesis box so it's probably a throwback to that.

>>389256997

Now THIS I can get behind. Bright enough that they look like they'd pop out from the backgrounds well, while also being more true to the actual originals AND looking nice and new. I like this a lot, anon.

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>>389256997
Yours is a pretty good inbetween. Good job anon

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>>389256325

Those dark colours looks fucking gross.

The lighter blue matches much more with the brightly lit stages, but it also matches better with the ending/opening animations in Mania/CD. Not even the newer Modern Sonic games have him that bold, only SA went for that kind of pallette and that game looked like ass.

Modded ones look fine.

>You mod the blue and red to be darker
>Yet leave the green eyes
What the fuck

>>389256997
This is perfect, you gonna release these?

>>389256997

Please put this out as a mod. I want it so bad.

>>389257325
>>389256940
>>389256620
ok youre right, heres a better video to get the idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmgYq_xl8JI
Knuckles looks SO dAMN good.

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>>389256997
>That Sonic
Nice shit anon. Knuckles looks good too but I think that his regular sprite is fine.

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>>389256325

>>389258406

I still think it's too dark.>>389256997 is a far better balance between old and new.

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Mania thread? Good, I'm gonna piggyback.
You're now in charge of making one brand new zone for Mania 2.
>Name of the zone
>Brief description of the theme of the zone; stage-specific elements/mechanics are optional
>Act 1 boss
>Act 2 boss
>Music style (optional)

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His Sonic 3 palette one is better. True Blue is too dark.

Why do Sonic fans fly into fits of [autistic screeching] over minor palette changes?

>>389256325
Looks worse.

>>389260396
The theme is the entire stage is a Mongolian barbecue where the stage hazards are the open skillit as touching that will burn you while food is your typical path tracks

why does sonic have a really shiny head

Organic Orange Tails when?

>>389260396

Food-themed level. Every platformer needs one.

>>389260592
I think this one is the best I've seen. The shading on Knuckles looks good and both of them have very solid shades of red/blue that can stick out while looking appealing. >>389256997 is also very nice though, it's a good in-between for using Mania's brighter colors while keeping them more of a solid blue/red than cyan/faint red.

>>389256325
This looks like utter shit.

>>389256997
They do and I still don't want them unless I see a video convinging me otherwise.

>>389260719
>HIS ARMS ARE NOT BLUE
>HIS EYES ARE NOT GREEN
>SONIC IS NOT BRIGHT BLUE
>SONIC IS NOT DARK BLUE
It's common.

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>Tfw watching a streamer or Youtuber you enjoy play the game for the first time and getting to witness their reactions to some of the surprises and callbacks in the game
>Even better when it's a Sonic autist that gets really excited over them, like CPZ's boss, MSZ's post-boss surprise, or throw-back bosses
It's fun to watch someone get genuinely excited over the game while experiencing these things for the first time, especially when it's someone that loves and appreciates Sonic's history.

>>389256997
This is the closest one I can get behind. To be honest I'm waiting on someone just outright using the S3&K sprites.

Honestly that looks like shit and Mania's colors are better.

>>389256997
That Knux is nice though.

>>389262951

MonotoneTim on Twitch was like this. It was really fun having him explain shit as he went on noticing all the callbacks and mashups, from the levels to the animations, to certain mechanics, to how the minigames work, and a ton of other stuff. It was really neat.

>>389256997
Fuck anon, you can't just show us this and then NOT release it.

>>389257150
>>389257160
Thanks. I'm kind of fussy about color. I used greyscale comparisons for each color to make sure they didn't become too dark or flat. Knuckles is about as light, Sonic was slightly darkened and saturated so the blues didn't look too faded. Sonic was made lighter for this game, it wasn't just the hue. I hope the compromise works.

>>389263306
Mania's colors are shit and the only reason they even made him lighter is because Iizuka wants to differentiate Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic. You're not a Iizuka supporter, are you boy?

>palette alterations

Wow so amazing. When the fuck are full sprite swaps and new levels coming?

>>389256325
That mod is so fucking ugly, sonic autists seriously have a few screw lose.

>>389257621
>>389258125
>>389263848
I'm sorry but I can't release a mod, I did that in Paint.net. I don't have the PC version yet.

>>389263984
Custom special stage tracks when?
F-Zero special stage tracks when?
Mach 4 when?

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>>389263932
I want to differentiate Sonic and Modern Sonic too. And then brutally eliminate Modern Sonic.

>>389264203
I'm not too fussed about new special stages but if we got the bonus S&K stage with the spheres you spin around on then I'd be happy, those were my favourites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-TCELD5WgE

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>>389256325
He is.

>>389260396
A call back to JSR would be neat
>Act 1 is JSR during the daytime
>Act 2 is JSRF at the night stages

Badniks are police-like baton-wielding carbots chasing you, or drones with guns that travel in a square pattern

Act 1 boss would have a tank from the original JSR while Act 2 would be Goji DJ-ing on a tower you have to scale.

To complete that get Hideki to compose the BGM

I hope everyone in this thread realizes they're being as bad as Chris-chan complaining about Sonic's arms.

>>389256325
>In what universe is that better

Who the fuck cares about something so stupid and small?
god, sonic fans truly are the physical form of autism

>>389256325

Because that looks like shit

>>389265710
>Who the fuck cares about something so stupid and small?
Designers? Fucking normalfag casual.

>>389265254
Complaining about the blue arms itself wasn't the problem you retard. It was funny because it triggered his autistic anger, and his reason why he didn't like it was retarded.

>>389265953
>>389266062

holy fuck this retard

They really fucked up Knuckles colors.

>>389265525
>>389265740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmgYq_xl8JI

>>389266386

lol

i agree

fucking video game virgins, i bet they dont get any pussy like i do haha

>>389264892
Man, Sonic 2 really was rushed. The prototype sprite looks much better and more detailed.

>>389266857

All Sonic games were rushed

>>389266996
They put everything they wanted into 3K. Nothing was left out.

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Autism general.

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>>389266857
>>389266996
No, this is Sonic Rush

>>389260396
City level with crazy verticality in act 1. The street level would be almost entirely flat aside from some card and roadwork areas, but you have to run up fire escapes and take elevators to reach the tops of buildings. The background is roof tops overlooking the ocean. Act 2 is a huge downhill slope that eventually ends on the beach.

Act 1 boss takes place on a window washing platform that is constantly leaning from left to right (think of the platforms in Death Egg). Act 2 boss is a surfing robot CEO that brings in tidal waves and forces you underwater to slow you down.

Act 1's music could be bleep bloop ambient esque stuff similar to Mirror's Edge, and act 2 would have deep bassline and be a clear reference to City Escape.

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>>389264198
Hey can I contact you? I can provide you the sprite sheets and can create the mod if you do the palette swap.

>>389267142
What an outstanding, original post.

>>389256325
These are too dark.
>>389256997
This is perfect.

>>389267142
Thanks for participating.

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>>389256997

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This is how it starts. Two weeks ago, Mania was the darling of /v/. Today, we're in the shitposting and nitpicking phase, where nothing in the game is good enough.

Everything needs to change. Every little detail is subject to criticism. And as the trivial complaints start to accumulate, and the outside world continues to praise Mania as a 10/10 game, it'll become uncool to like it uncritically. You're an outsider if you don't agree Sonic is the wrong color, or that half the bosses are awful, or that the intro is Tumblr animation.

And that's when it becomes a "Reddit game". Peer pressure kicks in, and anyone who likes Mania is shamed and ridiculed by the hive mind. This is exactly what happened to Undertale, and it'll happen to Mania as well.

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>>389260396
>Lotus Garden Zone
>theme something along the lines of one of those japanese gardens, similar layout to Aquatic Ruin from S2 with above water and underwater portions
>not creative enough for bosses
>music style something japanese-ish sounding I guess

>>389268775
Who is complaining about Mania in this thread? We're just talking about color palettes.

>>389268775
Nigger, you're blowing things out of proportions. I like the game's original pallets but I just enjoy something like >>389256997 more because it's more appealing to the classic look. I don't need the whole game remade or entire zones scrapped, I just think "these colors are nice but I like these more"; and aside from a few minor nitpicks like crushing deaths (that likely got overlooked) I think the game is fantastic.

>>389268775
>implying the shitposting phase didn't come into full effect as soon as the PC delay was announced

Nice historical revisionism there anon

>>389268775
mania threads are literally in better shape now than they were after the pc delay and pc release

>>389268775
People have been opposed to the color palettes of the characters in Mania ever since they were shown, dumbass. Especially Knuckles because he's fucking pink and not red.

>>389267106

Yeah, because they sold it to you twice

>>389269495
And I'm glad they did instead of shitting out another half finished game like Sonic 2.

>>389264892
When does the mobius strip animation get used in Mania?

>>389260592
Link to this mod?

>>389268775
I'm so glad Archie Sonic is dead.

>>389269692

They shat out 2 half finished games instead and made you pay full price.

How is that better?

>>389269958
When you use the super peel out.

>>389269958
it replaces the sonic 2 run when you have super peel-out on

>>389266857
The Sonic 2 prototype sprite is clearly just using Sonic 1's head but slightly modified, and the run animation being a dumb swirl looks stupid. Tails' tails don't look like they move powerful enough, so I could tell why they changed it too. Also notice how the detail on Sonic's prototype sprite isn't matching with that of Tails'. Probably another reason why they just redid his sprite.

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>/v/ makes fun of CWC and his obsession with blue arms
>/v/ turns around and accepts autistic threads like this unironically

>>389269984
see
>>389258406
>>389266761

>>389270786
>Treating /v/ as if all of the users making of the board's traffic were a single entity

>>389268775
I hope someone gets a screencap because this is completely accurate

>>389270956
there are only two people on /v/ - me and /v/

>>389256325
Because it fits the game's tile set? also that knuckles looks like fucking shit.

>>389256620

Why was Sonic3 so angry?

>>389270956
Well if that's the mentality in this board, then why are there so many people grouping all of reddit or tumblr or neogaf in the same bag?

>>389270786
>make a game about an iconic character
>fuck up the coloring
>anyone who complains is literally autistic
How about we gety a new Mario game where his basic outfit is bright pink and his overalls are sky blue to?

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How would you feel if they started retrofitting the modern characters into future classic style 2D games? Not by forcing you to play as them or anything, maybe just a cameo appearance here or there. Maybe as unlockable reskins for Sonic, Tails, and Knucks.

I'm sure the Sonic Mania team made him that colour because they had no idea what they were doing and made a mistake.

Thank god we have modders out there who can correct these errors.

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>>389271506
last time they did that we got the best mario game ever so i'm down for this

>>389271506
>How about we gety a new Mario game where his basic outfit is bright pink and his overalls are sky blue to?

Because this sonic isnt bright pink and his shoe arent sky blue, you hyperbolean abomination.

>>389271884
Knuckles is and Sonic's brighter than his other sprites.

>>389264990
Instead of Goji, it could be Robotnik with his rasta hat from that secret Sonic CD image where he's a DJ

>>389260396
>Name of the zone
Fever Festival
>Brief description of the theme of the zone; stage-specific elements/mechanics are optional
Giant colorful level based on the aesthetics of colorful Mexican architecture and interior design. Things are very hot and spicy, it's a heat themed level. It's also a sci-fi level, it takes place on a space station and sombrero UFOs fly around as platforms. The background showcases the giant colorful Mexican restaurant.
>Act 1 boss
Mechanical bull that chases Sonic around in an arena.
>Act 2 boss
Eggman in a salsa dancing robot.
>Music style
Salsa

>>389271506
What if we made Link's hair pink?

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>>389256325
>dark characters on dark backgrounds

who thought this was a good idea?
Then the mad man went through with it

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Meh

>>389271572
I'd rather they keep modern autism in modern games.

>>389271572
Would never happen since Iizuka sees the "modern" line as its own universe, which is why characters like Mighty, Fang, or Bean will never show up in a 3D game unless they were "recreated" like the Chaotix were for Heroes. Same applies to characters like Shadow and Blaze in regard to "classic" style games.

>>389256325
I think it was so that they pop out from the background elements more and can be tracked by players' eyes better when moving extremely fast. They both look a little too bright though I'll give you that.

>>389271572
I want Cream as a Tails reskin.

To make the characters stand out from the background. Having colors closer to white brings them to the front. Look how easy it is to see left Knuckles compared to the right.

>>389271572
>classic Blaze
>nude
I guess the artist didn't grasp the whole rubberhose thing the original character designers were going for.

>>389271572
Annoyed. There are already a lot of niche, neglected, irrelevent classic style characters. Modern characters should appear in modern style games, like a playable version of Amy.

>>389270786
You get fucking banned for making cwc threads now, /v/ is fucking dead

>>389256325
Because of nuClassic Sonic's coloring being lighter. Nothing more.

I can't believe anyone would waste money on this trash. Fuck Denuvo.

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>>389256325
Everybody else in the thread is wrong.
Their brightness is based on how Sega redesigned Classic Sonic for the Post-Colors era, making him more baby blue than what he actually appeared as. It's why Tails matches his old palette but Sonicc and Knuckles don't.

>>389268775
The only reason everybody is shitting on Mania so hard now is because the PC version came out. Just like when the "master race" got their hands on Dark Souls they had to break up the fanbase hard due to their incompetence at playing video games.

>>389264892
Not a fan of the "Fruit Punch Pink" coloration they keep giving Knuckles.

>Flying Battery Zone act 2 has the lower section that has Wacky Workbench electric grids
>Mirage Saloon act 2 has the lower section styled after a western saloon with some Casino/Collision style bumper sections
>Lava Reef act 1 has a rising lava section in the lower section
>Metallic Madness feels like it has three totally different routes to it
The difference between routes in some acts is so radically different it's like experiencing a whole new version of the stage. I tried to take top routes as much as I could and even replaying the game and watching others play it, I'm still seeing stage elements and sections I hadn't seen at all on my first playthrough.

>>389273108
Flaming Angle Island is a nice touch.

>>389274824
Yeah, Mania's level design is probably some of the strongest in the series outside of a few small flaws here and there.

And yet Sonic Team is using Forces for their presentation on level design.

>>389271430
he got his chaos emeralds stolen remember

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What does /v/ think of this mod?

>>389256997
MOOOOOODS

>>389260396
Can i ask instead zones of old GG/MS games? I want Sunset Park Act 3 boss with that track be 16-bit or something else

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So what's up with Fang the Sniper? His big debut was Triple Trouble, but he was barely even in that game, he only shows up in optional special stages. Yet in pre-released material, he shows up in normal zones, and appears to interact with Sonic in them. He even has an unused bonus board. Was Knuckles originally not going to be in the game, and did Knuckles inclusion diminish Fang's roll? Was Fang cucked by Knux?

>>389264342
I used to love this movie. Watched it so many times on VHS as a kid.

>>389274328
>>389274364
>truthmind
Fuck Generations.

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I want Sonic 3 sprites in Mania because Sonic 3 sprites look better than Mania's.

>>389275351
The one frame of sonics walk cycle is obese amy mod?

>>389256325
wasnt knux always kinda pink looking?

>>389276056
It's in progress, just wanted to tease /v/ about it.

>>389269254
Isn't Mania Sonic very similar to early development Sonic 1?

>>389260592

Knuckles has saturation problems in this one. The pure red parts of his head look blown out.

>>389276091
he was
he never looked like a tomato for sure

>>389275648
>Was Knuckles originally not going to be in the game
Triple Trouble pulls a lot of stuff from 3K (e.g. level trasitions, snowboarding), so I doubt Knuckles wasn't planned from the beginning.

>>389276091

Knuckles Chaotix, he was pinkish. Mania's idea is a Sonic on a Saturn, Saturn 32 bit, 32x 32bit

>>389276271
Well I think it's fucking pretty good looking keep working on it

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>>389264892
The Mania sprites clearly had a lot of love put in them. Aside from people sperging out about the colors, I don't see the problem. Look at Tails' Mania sprite alone!

>>389275648
He was going to be the Game Gear Knuckles but then they thought "why not just have Knuckles?" It's why Nack was a playable character in Sonic Drift 2.

>>389276489
I'm not working on it, a fatfag friend is doing it. I'll make sure to tell him that you said that.

>Sonic isn't blue enough! I need a mod to fix this!

>>389276847
Isn't that the point of modding? To add or adjust things to your own liking?

>>389275831

Those are S&K sprites. But yeah, those are the best. I particularly dislike how round and bulging Sonic's head is in Mania and the first Sonic games. It makes it look like he only has one set of spikes down the middle of his neck. The S3&K sprites portray the 3D shape of his head far better.

>>389256997

My name is Knuckles, I don't chuckle, I'd rather flex my MUSCLES.

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>>389256997
>>389256325

>YOU WILL NEVER BE SO AUTISTIC AS TO ACTUALLY ARGUE OVER SONIC AND KNUCKLES BEING DARK OR LIGHT ENOUGH BLUE AND RED

Enjoy the fucking game and shut the fuck up!

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>>389256325
>Sonic 3 Color Palette
Disgusting. It looks so plain and out of place to the game's colors and sprites.

>>389271430
That's more of a smug and sure grin. Not that he doesn't have reasons to be pissed with Knuckles screwing with him the whole game.

>>389267214
I don't understand, what else would you need?

>>389277107
That's not even Sonic 3. Knuckles isn't that dark in it. It's just him making them darker.

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>>389260396
>Radical Rave Zone
>Act 1 is filled with giant glowsticks, strobe lights, laser disco balls, and speakers (bounce-pad stand-ins); the stage is very dark, like a rave would be. Act 2 is the morning clean-up when dawn has broken, trash is scattered everywhere, and all the lasers and shit, if they are running, are just running in standby mode/going a lot more slowly.
>Act 1 DDR Boss
>Act 2 Dancing Robot Janitor Boss attempting to sweep you into the trash
>Tee Lopes' vision of classic rave club music fit into Sonic style; that's pretty much a given for a Zone like this.

>>389277075
What kind of post is this?

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>>389277075
>tfw just austistic enough to enjoy things and enjoy analyzing visual design/color theory
Feels great.

>>389271572
Blaze and Shadow would be nice but first bring back The Chaotix
tfw no chaotix 2

>>389270164
I'm not. Flynn era was really great.

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>>389276983
Sonic Team were still figuring out how to depict his quills until they nailed it in 3&K (and CD as well).
In the early days, based on the images and info I could find the references they used showed the quills as in pic related. They look like this in the halfpipe Special Stages.

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>>389277075

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>>389277075
>complaining about autism in a sonic thread
sorry bud you're just too normal to participate in this thread

>>389277491
forgive me, that last point is wrong.

>>389264342

I wish this was the aesthetic the series kept with instead of modern sonic, it's just too perfect

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Because he's trying to make it look like a 32x game, and characters didn't look as dark in Chaotix.

>>389277984
You can't reason with these idiots.

>>389262951

It's fun to watch a friend get excited over the game. There's a PC mustard from /v/ who joined my discord, and he's loving this. Watching his reactions is great.

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How do I git gud at Puyo Puyo? I can't do a fucking 3 chain without either me or the CPU fucking me up.

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>>389256325
Sonic fans once again show they are the highest level autistic

I'm reading the steam forums and they are claiming that it's an always online connection required for this; is that true or did they remove that always online part?

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>>389277984
but the 32x sucked dick and knuckles chaotix is a decent change of pace at best. Was Whitehead a hack all along?

>>389260396
A Sonic Spinball themed zone

>>389277984
>he
Mania is made by a team of people. It's trying to look like a Saturn game, not a 32x game. Sonic and Knuckles are cyan and pink instead of blue and red because of Iizuka trying to differentiate them from Modern Sonic more. Why are you defending meddling? They're obviously supposed to be blue and red based on the game's animations and promotional artwork. Knuckles is pink in Chaotix because of how the game is stylized to work around the limitations, he still looks red in-game because his shoes are pink too. In Mario, Knuckles' shoes are red while he's bright pink. Sonic is brighter and more cyan than ever. But it's not just the shade, it's even more so the hue.

>>389278204
That must be why they can make things that looks, sound, and play nicely.

>>389278184
Try not being a brainlet

>>389278623
Yes like Sonic 06

>>389260396
Frigid Locomotive Zone.

The zone would take place on a train going through a snowy forest mostly because I want a full train level after the train section of Mirage Saloon zone. Act 1 would start with Sonic running along a cliff beside the train tracks, and you would have to catch up to and jump on the train before the cliff ends. The rest of the act would take place on the train. For Act 2 the train will go through a snowy mountain range, and every so often the train will enter a tunnel, making it too dark to see.

I can't think of anything for the Act 1 boss, but the Act 2 boss would be Eggman dressed as Santa Claus flying around in a mechanical sleigh.

>>389279118
>Sonic fans made 06
Yikes, not only are you a shitposter, but you're an idiot too.

>>389258523
>pic related
Hearty kek

Has anyone figured out how to enable the Saturn controller UI or what the Z button's used for?

>>389271572
I would actually really like that

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>>389278512
TOO FAR

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>red knux
>doesn't give him back his yellow socks

IT'S ALL GARBAGE

>>389279351
baiting you was easy

>>389279705
>pretending to be retarded
Not helping your case.

>>389271430
You mean cross-eyed and retarded?

>>389278184
Look up Puyo chain set ups, play on level 1 Puyo mode, repeat until you get good.

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>>389271837

How do you see pink?

>>389278184
learn how to set triggers.

>>389279827
He looks more pink than red, anon.

>>389278512

>why are you defending meddling

They're a touch brighter than usual, hardly "meddling". And there was no 2D Sonic game for Saturn. What you're saying doesn't make sense.

>In Mario, Knuckles' shoes are red

What the fuck are you talking about?

>>389279765
pretending to be retarded so you'd respond was easy

and look you keep doing it

>>389279827
That is literally pink there.

>>389256325
True blue and rad red don't fit the games pallette

>>389279827
There is literally no shade of red in this sprite

>>389279984
>>389280048

That's light red.

>>389280025
>so you'd respond was easy
Please learn English.

>>389280090

The individual pixels themselves aren't red, but the image comes out as light red. It looks light red.

>>389280092
So pink.

>>389280196

There are many shades of red, not just red and pink.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shades_of_red

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Note the light shades of blue in Naoto Oshima's drawings? The dark blue Sonic is an American/Sonic 2 creation. Not the original.

>>389280254
Thanks for posting that. Now I can confirm that SMW's sprite is, indeed, pink.

>>389279827
>Literally the same shades of red and blue as Knuckles and Sonic in Mania

>>389280114
and now you're trying to bait me

one more point for me

>>389280173
>but the image comes out as light red
It comes out as pink-ish red, which makes perfect sense since Mario needs to always pop out from the backgrounds

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>>389280254
Pink is a shade of red. Mario's outline is dark red. His shirt is pink.

>>389256325
He should be like this in the first place:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAhMgXvvAfI

>>389275831
Soon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUcx9v38Lmo

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>>389280676

His shirt has more colors than just pink in it. When you look at the sprite from afar, it comes out as red. The colors blend together and are just dark enough to give you a sense that it is indeed red.

>>389280910
It's made of three colors. Two of them are pink and one is the dark red outline. If you want your argument to be "but I sense red somewhere!", throwing out objectivity, so be it.

He is factually mostly pink. Good day.

lol Sonic autists

>>389256325

Because it looks awful.

>>389271430
Nigga looked more like he was on crack

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>>389260396

Cybernet City Zone

Act 1 - A highly vertical zone utilizing aspects springs/bumpers from Spring Yard, Carnival night, Collision Chaos etc. Palmtree Panic style boosters to gain height. Carnival Night spinning towers.
Visuals take a large pointer from collision chaos, with flashing neon signs being the primary use of environmental art. Think Scrap brain meets Casino night for the tileset.
Background is an updated Genocide City.
Act 2 -
Bad future to end all bad futures. Taking elements from all bad futures across CD, new gimmicks for this level include Death Egg boosters, the one where rings surround the player. Lava is also introduced.
Additional stage gimmicks include scrap brain hazards. Also, the bumpers from the previous level have been set up to push players into spikes.

Act 1 boss
A sidescrolling boss during a lightning storm.
Eggman is using the time stones in conjunction with the Phantom Ruby. Attempts to hit him with end with him teleporting away, as if he was never there in the first place.
In order to defeat the boss, the player must wait for lightning to strike, and then attempt to attack Eggman. He will teleport into a lightning bolt and take damage. Once the player does this 6 times, the phantom ruby will flash, and the storm will stop. Eggman disappears, the background will go dark, and the ACT 1 post will spawn.
Act 2 boss
The Lava Powerhouse music from Sonic Spinball begins. Boss is two phases. The player must begin climbing a pinball section chasing Eggman up towards the second phase.
The final phase is a running section where Eggman chases the player with the instadeath laser, as egg robos and spikes are thrown in the path of the player.
Remix of Sonic 1 final boss music.
The player outruns Eggman, and meets Rosy as a reward. AKA Stardust Speedway. She then becomes a playable character

Sonic CD. Heavy percussion dominates.

DON'T
CALL
ANYBODY

Say what you want about the Sonic 3 sprite but at least it doesn't look like he has only a single row of spines like all the others do. Mania could have at least attempted to incorporate the one actual improvement Sonic 3's sprite had into the new one.

>>389256620
I don't really like how Mania's sprite feels like a downgrade from 3's. I never liked S1/2's arm positioning.

Of the three playables of Mania, Knuckles has the best sprite.

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>>389281006

It's not throwing out objectivity. This is how sprites work. A bunch of pixels are blended together to give off the appearance of certain colors, features, etc. Look at Sonic, he's not a solid shade of blue. One could even argue he's barely blue in this one due to the off colors blended in. But it's meant to give off the appearance of blue. When I look at it, when anyone else looks at it, they see blue. A bunch of autistic /v/irgins probably see white because there's a white pixel in there.

And if you want to talk about subjectivity, let's not forget everyone in here arguing about semantics, on whether to call light red pink or not

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>>389256997
I love this, reminds me of Sega Model 3 color palettes.

>>389281742

Sorry, meant to say barely dark blue.

I actually love new cyan Sonic.
>>389256997
That Knuckles is great.

>>389277777

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>When you get all of the emeralds by Studiopolis and don't have to worry about them for the rest of the game
>Get to enjoy spamming super mode when I feel like it now
Now I just need to perfect those last five bonus stages, I keep cycling the same ones and fucking up on them.

>>389282387
>he doesn't get super sonic by chemical plant 1
Greenhill has 5 rings and act 1 of chemical has 3. Git gud

>>389279118
I wasn't aware that it was a fangame.

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>>389282387
>tfw I get all the chaos emerald early and can't spin dash without changing the fucking zone music.
I always enter a checkpoint when I "spindash" with >50 rings

>>389280000
It is meddling, it's not what the creators of the game want, it's just one of those weird company policy that Iizuka had to enforce, like how Knuckles can't wear his hat, the design of the Chaos Emeralds, and the omission of Super Emeralds. They described it as a lost Saturn game, not a 32x game. They didn't try to make it look like Chaotix.
I meant to say Chaotix, I don't know why I said Mario. I must have been distracted.

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>Fall down a pit
>Try climbing back up
>Jump and glide to the right thinking there's a wall I can climb
>There isn't
>Too late to turn back now
>Accept my fate
>Grab an invisible wall
>???
>Climb up it, reach the "top" and fall immediately
Fun times.

>>389283339
Wait, I meant to say Mania, not Chaotix. I guess that would have been pretty easy to figure out in context, don't know why it was so confusing unless you're a retard like me.

>>389282805
Oh fuck off you autistic cunt

>>389279616
>socks

>>389278184
You don't need to replay Chemical Plant over and over. Just go to the extras menu and select Mean Bean. Play at CPU level 1 and try figuring it out for yourself, it'll feel rewarding when you do and it'll make future Chemical Plant replays much faster.

>>389256325
I just want an S3&K total conversion mod

>>389280375
Looks like a regular shade of blue to me in that finalized Sonic's Band concept art. It's almost like they experimented with several shades of blue before they settled on regular blue for the final product. But even then light blue isn't cyan.

>>389268775
>comic poster being completely retarded
Nothing new here.

>>389274609
You're talking to people who were playing romhacks before you were even born, dumb roach.

>>389279118
>>389279351
>>389282871
Actually...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IeIxY_Itzg

>>389256325
I like the lighter colors more, makes the characters really stand out compared to the level.

>>389283262
>not playing the pc version with its dedicated super button

>>389284095
>Sonic the Hedgehog (Unity Demo): S-Rank
That honestly looks pretty cool. I wish Modern Sonic stayed with the Sonic Adventure formula, but gave Sonic more cool abilities and moves to dispense enemies with instead of just giving him a boost button that lets him dash through entire crowds, and then making his only other attack the lock-on.

>>389284547
Speedrunners always make Adventure look good with their extensive knowledge of the bad controls and physics. Then you try playing it yourself and all the memories come back.

>>389273892
>best reply buried in a sea of bullshit
But really, this is what I assumed. It makes the characters easier to see

>>389284810
It could've been better if they actually improved upon it beyond Sonic Adventure 2. Instead they made a buggy mess in '06 and then went on with boost games that even a total retard can't fail.

you ruined the game

good job fag

>>389284959
Adventure was busted as well. You just got used to it.

>>389285271
Adventure has the most control you can have on Sonic in 3D

>>389282387
if super sonic didn't change the music i would use it all the time

>people saying the darker colors don't stand out as much
>they're the same colors as the previous games
>they're in the same levels as the previous games
???????????????


I don't see the issue.

>>389285271
Adventure was good in concept, but just poor in execution. It needed proper devs making it.

>>389285536
And it still sucks.

>>389285785
So then the logical conclusion would be that the old colors don't stand out as much as the new colors, right?

>>389285785
The levels got remade with new palettes. Dark blue blends hardcore, just watch OP's video.

>>389281620
3 was the downgrade. Sonic looks like he has downs, and his feet are awkward

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>>389256325
Problem is that the darker colors look really muddy and not detailed enough. This one >>389256997 is really good because it maintains the brightness of Mania's palette but also keeps the hue and shading. I wish there was a good sprite artist around who could turn this into a full-on mod, but I doubt anyone will care enough to.

>>389256325
SONIC'S QUILLS AREN'T LIGHT BLUE!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

>>389286708
You sure he didn't just swap the palette?

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>>389286202
>>389286192
What i'm saying is if changing him to his S3 colors make him 'blend in more' then how come everyone's only just complaining now when he's been that color since 1994?

I just don't see it.

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Fuck sonic, he was never good

>>389287019
He probably sampled from the palette but didn't actually color it right.

>>389287158
Because the levels had different colors, as your screenshot shows.

>>389256325
All the threads I've seen surrounding this game since it came out on PC are autistic minor sprite complaints. I saw someone complaining about Tails' stock icon, for fuck sakes. What is wrong with PC gamers?

>>389287293
>left is an unfiltered emulator
>middle is in-game set to 'soft'
>right is a screenshot taken from a google image search

I don't know, I like the S3&K colors. Mania Sonic blends in more than his original coloring did, at least there and in Studiopolis. I really don't think 'it blends too much' is why they changed it.

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>>389286708
You wouldn't need a sprite artist for a recolor, anyone could do it.

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>>389286708

>>389287459
Welcome to the actual classic Sonic community. So far you only talked to posers who never even touched a romhack.

>>389287604
I'm still disappointed they didn't give every action a Super sprite.

>>389256325
That looks like shit. Modders once again turning good games into crap.

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>tfw Sonic 3 Complete is never getting the Drop Dash

I think I've come to the realization that Knuckles isn't all that fun to play.
I might just be spoiled by how fucking amazing the drop dash is though.
Gliding and climbing don't even compare.

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>>389260396
>Mecha Mayhem Zone
>The entire stage is a giant robot piloted by Eggman, traveling through the inside and traversing around the outside like Flying Battery
>Act 1 boss: The mech's inner security system (think white blood cells coming after the virus (you))
>Act 2 boss: central control of the mech, Eggman trying to stop you from disabling it
>Music style: classic mecha anime opening like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8hwDQJRU7E or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBoXmZGl8p8

>>389287697
You recolored it?

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>>389277107
how about Sonic 3 sprites with Mania palette?

>>389287905
Someone did for Sonic 3's Super Sonic and it was implemented in a romhack. Someone might for Sonic Mania's Super Sonic eventually.

>>389288281
Fuck yeah, now this I need right now.

>>389288281
>Classic Classic Sonic
how deep does the rabbit hole go

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>>389288384

>>389287989
I never used the drop dash, didn't even know it was in the game.
Knuckles can't jump, sits down to have a picnic every time you land from glide, and feels like Sonic but with a sack of rocks tied to him.

>>389288545
Drop Dash is great, people don't give it enough credit.

>>389287989
>>389288545
How do you drop dash? I forgot it existed.

>>389271506
You are literally autistic.

>>389288545
>sits down to have a picnic every time you land from glide,
This is the most annoying thing. The last thing I want to do in a Sonic game is grind to a halt, especially after using a character's signature ability.

Drop dash is fucking amazing. Once you start using it you'll never want to go back.

>>389288687
After jumping, press and hold the button again.

>>389275831
>dull floppy dildo spines
>boxing gloves
>clown shoes
>beady retard eyes
>covered in body grease

nah

>>389288687
you press and hold jump button again as sonic
it only works if you initiate the jump (no rolling off into drop dash) and it doesn't work if you don't have enough time to wind up

>>389288771
>liking cute shit over cool shit

back to /a/ with you

>>389289301
1/2/CD/Mania is way cooler looking

>>389289301
>any of those thing he listed
>cool
Only Knuckles looks cooler in 3 because of the red coloring. Otherwise, Mania and the other sprites are better.

>>389289472
>big bobbly head
>cute chibi proportions

>cool

>>>/a/

>>389289568
I can make retarded descriptions of anything to make it sound bad, except for Custom Robo

>>389289615
>cute chibi proportions
None of them are that except for when Sonic's shrunken.

>>389287989
Haven't played Mania yet, but Knuckles grew on me through his 3&K campaign. If you have good knowledge of the level layouts you can do some huge shortcuts with climbing and gliding in the right place, like you can skip a third of Hydrocity Act 2 by gliding at the right place.

>>389271991
Yes, and it looks good.

The edit op posted looks muddy, shitty, and blends in with the background.

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>>389256997
Fixed

>>389290248
Much better.

>>389290248
Blue arms have grown on me.

>>389290107
Everyone in the thread agrees the one in the OP sucks.

>>389274291
Good. There was nothing video games about cwc to begin with.

>>389264892
dose mania animations
so smooooth ;-;

>>389290346
>>389290248
tbqh senpai, I think they only used salmon colored arms for old Sonic sprites because they stand out better, while blue arms are harder to see, even if blue arms look better on it

please don't kill me, Chris-chan

>>389264892
Why are the Metallic Madness animations missing?

Soundtrack download when

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>>389292902
Original OGGs datamined from the game:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1j2hqu6bv5gv6ks/Sonic%20Mania%20(2017-08-29)(Christian%20Whitehead)(Headcannon)(PagodaWest%20Games)(SEGA).7z?dl=0

MP3s based on the OGGs that give the tracks a loop, fade out at the end, are labeled better & probably other things I'm not knowledgeable about:
https://mega.nz/#!a4dFybyD!aUFh0hbB8tudNtXwuAqebQz31LruCjHuIFqCFuEKk0E

There are no FLACs yet.

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>>389293365
Oh shit thank you very much Anon

>>389291096
They don't look better, it's worse color distribution. Kinda bland imo.

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>>389256997

>>389256325
SONICS HAIR IS BLUE

>>389294969
>hair
You could just say "Sonic is blue," or "Sonic is not cyan"

>>389256325
Sonic 3's Sonic sprite was a fucking abortion

>>389258523
why does anyone not pirating give a fuck? You wouldn't even know it was there if no one told you.

>>389295826
drm causes more problems for legitimate customers than it does for pirates.
this is a fact that has been proven time and time again.
fuck, denuvo kills hard drives, even

literal autism

>>389294646
Did you recolor all of those for fun or do you actually know how to get it in-game?

>>389294646

>>389287604
>>389287697

I like mania's sprites because it fits with the rest of the game.
If you put mania's sonic in sonic 2 it looks weird, but it looks great in mania.

>>389296348
what about it

Crack

>>389297101
It has the blue spheres sprite too.

>>389256620
3 had the best sprite. Fuck you guys that think otherwise.

>>389286573
This. 3 was overdesigned

>>389294646
>>389287604
>>389287697
As someone who's never modded a 2d sprite game before, how exactly does putting these into the game work? Do you have to make a new sprite sheet with the same exact animations in the same position or what?

>>389296479
This. People were bitching about how wacky Mania Sonic looked back at the reveal, but it fits really well with the cartoon revival aesthetic.

>>389295826
I don't want to support malware. Not only that, a release delayed 4 days away from launch exclusively out of pettiness.

>>389297576
No, you just change the hex values for each sprite.

>>389297576
im more curious about how you get them back in the game after making edits. Im having a hard time finding any information on that

>>389293531
I disagree, in my opinion it looks like some furfag costume compared to blue arms

>>389298061
Sonic Retro got you covered.

>>389271572
Would prefer it with modern sonic sprites like Sonic Advance.

>>389298270
We just need a new Advance style game with playable side characters. Sonic ManiaX releasing 2018

>>389298117
I've read through a bunch of forum posts and still havent had much luck.

>Sprite modification is not currently possible, since no method of replacing in-game content is yet discovered or functional.

this sounds ominous

>>389286573
100% this

>>389298392
Read the rest of the thread. They figured out the palette format and all.

Only thing I liked about 3 spriteswas Knuckles' coloring and Tails swimming.

>>389256325
Literally the first thing i said to a friend of mine when i first saw Mania was "Finally they got rid of that shit blue" The blue that they used to use for sonic was fucking ugly. I let it pass because I chalked it up to being a limitation. But that blue is fucking dookie levels of bad.

>>389298538
how far do I need to read in. got to around page 10

>>389298895
Keep going. There's a post about palette format if I recall right.

>>389286032
Nice meme.

Adventure Sonic gameplay is by far the best iteration of Sonic gameplay outside of perhaps classic sonic and genuinely should be the way forward for 3D Sonic.

>Adventure Sonic gameplay is by far the best iteration of Sonic gameplay outside of perhaps classic
If you want (You)s you need more subtlety.

>>389299917
>Adventure Sonic gameplay is by far the best iteration of Sonic gameplay
You adventure babies are cute. Adventure is just as bad as boost shit in any true Sonic fan's eyes

>>389298969
ok i'll keep going through it. just dont want to make a whole sprite sheet just to find out it doesnt work

>>389298379
Pretty sure Taxman and Stealth aren't interested in Advance.

>>389300035
It's true though. Explain in what way Speed Highway, Red Mountain, Final Rush, or City Escape aren't wonderfully designed stages, complete with a control scheme that perfectly accommodates their design.

You can bitch that the gameplay style is unpolished; that much is obvious. But to say that it isn't the best or deepest 3D sonic style (when it's executed well) is a highly debatable assessment when compared to the peaks and relative potential shown in its alternatives.

>>389300420
Well, it's gotta be there. There's like 50 different sprite mods so far on Youtube and pretty much all of them use different colors.

>>389300616
>It's true though. Explain in what way Speed Highway, Red Mountain, Final Rush, or City Escape aren't wonderfully designed stages, complete with a control scheme that perfectly accommodates their design.
They expose the abysmal camera and collision detection, for one. And why adding resistance to controls while turning when going fast is so important. They had a vague idea that something went terribly wrong by Adventure 2 and responded by making every level mostly straight, but it still controlled like ass. Then you have the game design philosophy of adding automation triggers every fucking where because the game didn't control right, so you had to dash through ring trails, homing attack enemies, homing attack springs to lead into another string of springs, all the dash pads to make sure the set pieces wouldn't fall apart, all the scripted launches with a disregard for air control by never forcing you to control where you land, the fucking rail grinding, the list goes on.

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Explain

>>389301526
You didn't hit the middle one, dumb streamer.

>>389298108
I think it's the other way around, blue arms make him look more like a guy in a suit. Normal arms are better colorizing in the grand scheme of the design and makes him look more like a hedgehog.

>>389301526
There was a green sphere in the middle.

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>>389301526
>green spheres
What the fuck?

>>389301526
>green spheres
what

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>>389301595
>>389301673

I was going too fast I didn't notice the middle was green.

>>389288747
>>389288545
Confirmed for not playing sonic 3k

>>389297551
>overdesigned
Stop using words if you don't get their meanings.

>>389301683
>>389301720
They're from the Blue Sphere minigame you get from all medals.

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>>389301683
>>389301720
There's an extra set of Blue Sphere stages when you get all the medals and unlock Blue Sphere in Extras. The new stages add new sphere types to try and mix things up.
Green Spheres have to be collected twice: Once to turn blue, again to turn red.
Pink Spheres are teleporters.

>>389301878
I have extensively.

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>>389302047
>Suupa Emerarudo

>>389302124
I dont understand then. The knuckles landing lag and his jump height are not new
The only thing thats new is the sprites

>>389302263
What's new is Sonic playing much better in comparison because the drop dash is so fucking good.

Is the home menu delay on the Switch version ever going to be fixed?

>>389256325
How can you mod it when it has Denuvo?

>>389256620
That fucking S3 sprite. How could anyone think that this is good?