Why are video games so bloated? It's like every new

Wow, takes an hour to download
Are you such an impatient kiddie shit that must have everything RIGHT NOW?

>>389241607
that post is retarded because a single terabyte of storage goes by like it's nothing

>>389241607
Audio isn't compressed so take up more space.

A lot of uncompressed textures and audio.

Would it be worth it to grab an 8tb HDD or are those prone to failure? I'm dying on my 1tb right now.

>>389241748
I read that failure rates get higher and higher with anything above 3TB

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>>389241650
66GB takes like a week 24/7 download for me.

>>389241607
Blurays were a mistake.

>>389241748
>grab an 8tb HDD
why not just buy 4 2tbs
Or you know, uninstall games you are not playing

>>389241607
More/bigger textures.

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>>389241748

Hard Disk space is like money in the hands of a woman. It will NEVER be enough, don't matter how much you have. Actually, the more you have, the more you waste.

>mfw /2001/ and I tought I was rocking with my two 80GB HDs

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>>389241779
Ah fuck, I guess I can get a 3tb or just go external for games only. Waiting on SSD prices to drop and get more storage options is suffering.

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>>389241807

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>>389241607
>tfw a*stralian
seriously considering getting an optical drive again

>>389241607
>Why video games are 65+

let me explain since you seems geniue retard.

Video games are moving forward a future where every texture etc getting bigger and more quality.Uncompressed textures and and sound.

This forces developers to a tight corner. Because consoles have such shit mobile cpu's they cant run game and repack/recompress files at same time. So they have either going to have shit tier textures or give you uncompressed textures and float the file.

Blame Jaguar CPU's and who uses them

>>389241873
I have 8 games installed. Battlefield, Siege, Witcher 3 and Dark Souls 3 already take up like 400GB.

>>389241807
>responding to it

>>389241991
>Video games are moving forward a future where every texture etc getting bigger and more quality.Uncompressed textures and and sound.
You can't barely notice them.

>>389241991
compressed != low quality, you retard.

>>389241607
>mgsv is about 22gb
>doom takes up about 75gb

>>389241991
what a fucking retard.. it would be all too easy to put you down with facts anulling your sentiments but from reading your attitude you're not ready to listen

>>389242121
The power of megatextures meme

>>389241807

>tfw 1,4 mb/s
>landlines inside the house are ancient and the landlord refuses to improve them

Fühlt schlecht, Mann

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>>389241901
>installing games to an external hard drive
>considering an SSD for bulk storage

>>389242049
I didnt say that. Im saying console cpus cant run main game logic,ai,simulations while compressing the game if they want high tier textures. If they had switch tier textures they could.

Either they are gonna make it compressable so cpus of consoles can run it while with game. This means texture and sound is going to worse. Or uncompress them and dont tire cpu with uncompressing files in game. Also means they can have best textures still wont cost a nickle compare to other one

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>>389242289

I only install games on the external drive. Am I doing something wrong?

>>389241693
Why do people keep repeating this bullshit and how are they not called out on their ignorance on the spot?

>>389241889

Just delete your shit when done with it

>Made this PC 2 years ago with its 1TB disk
>still 300+ GB left

>>389242379
So what is it then?

>>389242227
>5Mb/s while living 5 minutes by car from capital
>meanwhile people in the countryside have bloody optical fiber

Because fuck compression, and fuck you too.

>>389241607
Who cares?
Don't tell me you absolutely need to have 15 of the latest & biggest titles installed concurrently.
I use a 500 GB SSD dedicated solely for games and don't feel pressed for space.
Worst case is I can install some to my OS drive (another 256 GB SSD, with about 150 free).
If I need to hoard older stuff I can always plop it onto one of my two 2TB HDD's.

There are 3 options for developers
>make game have compressed texture and sound , also work on console = worse texture quality,worse sound but less size
>make game have uncompressed text/sound and work on console = best texture but bloat size
>make game have compressed textures but not playable on console = best textures and less size but not playable on console

Stops pirates, apparently.
It doesn't.

>>389242148
>I am not even gonna bother with arguing because you are so wrong
Please fuck off back to tumblr

>>389242530
Nigga pirates repack games and make 75 gb doom 20 gb. Since PCs have good cpus it can repack those files easily.

Holy shit, I live in a third country shithole and our crappiest internet right now is about 10 mbs/s

Not complaining about that shit never again.

>>389241607
>buy ssd to keep games i'm currently playing on
>idea to use 2tb hdd for mass storage
>ssd is a whole new world of speed
>store everything on it now because fuck waiting for the hdd to spin up every time I want to grab a picture or something
>ssd rapidly filling up

Help

>>389241607
games would be about 10gb smaller if they just wouldn't install 15 different fucking languages worth of audio files.

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>>389242530
>mfw repacks are smaller so I prefer them over the legit copy

Also actually owning the game instead of renting feel much better.

>>389242462
>live in the outskirts of town
>the downtown has fibre and I don't even though I'm like 5 km away from it

>>389242530
>have shit internet
>download 40GB game on Steam for 5 games
>update comes out
>as I reboot the PC, I need to download entire game once more
You know, pirating is more convenient in my case.

>>389242534
back? sorry didn't realise i was working with a powerful psychic! how about magically getting some pussy? oops!

>>389242148
LOL

>>389242725
>for 5 games
Meant "days"

Isnt it standard to not compress so decompressing doesnt reduce fps?

>tfw $4 for 200 up/down
хaхaхa

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>>389242698
>be leaf
>Internet is usually pretty shitty
>decide to get Shaw 150
>mfw

>>389242827
Yeah due shit tier Jaguar Mobile CPU's.

on last gen this wasnt problem since textures werent big as this everything was able to decompressed easily without effecting performance at all.

How do you think 3DS games are 250 mb.

I dont get this shitty internet complaints, if you have too shitty internet just go a library or university and download whatever fuck you want in 1 hour and go back

was that hard?

>>389241607
Gears of War 4 is literally 115 GB

>>389243015
That's the price you pay for free monthly content updates.

>>389242898
Some say the jump to 4k from 720p means the textures have to be a bit bigger.

>>389242227
Look into Telekom Hybrid, it boosts your speed by using LTE. Pretty comfy senpai.

>>389243051
>Free

Its a little gay that this is true since this means the seasin pass does LITERALLY NOTHING

What does it even do!? Why did i buy it, all the maps are basically free anyway

>>389242889
Wish I could get at least a tenth of that.

>>389241607
Arma with mods takes 200 GB on my HDD. WD blacks and especially greens are really cheap now so why not get one if storage is a problem

>>389243156
Apply for refugee status in sweden, im pretty sure they'd let you in.

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>bought a 1tb harddrive and 250gb ssd half a year ago
>only 10gb left on ssd
>over 500gb of music and vidya on my hard drive
should i buy a 2tb hdd or go for a 4tb hdd?

>>389243271
yes

>>389241607
time to upgrade your hard drive poorfag

>>389243224
Unfortunately a slav is neither white enough nor exotic enough.

How soon before were up to 1tb games? IIRC FF15 is going to be 170 gbs. I wonder how many people could even buy a 1 tb harddrive just for one game.

blame European languages and audiophiles

>>389242379
If that's wrong, then why are repacks a thing?

>>389243271
3tb hdd
SSD you shouldnt use to store media permanently, just keep the couple long loading time games you're currently playing on it and you wont need an upgrade for a few years.

>>389241607
>games should be the same size now as they were 15 year sago

>>389241650
I have fucking data cap.

>>389243271
affirmative

>remember my 300mb drive
>installing games from floppies
>later on 128kb/s internet
>took whole day to download a movie from kaaza
>7/10 times it turned out to be porn
you yunguns have it so easy these days

>>389241607
Its because GTAV used it as a marketing point that the file size was bloated from uncompressed audio and textures to try to convince people the game was huge(content).

>>389243271
Just delete your old vidya, dumbass

>>389243542
where do you live? some third world hole?

>>389241991
>let me explain since you seems geniue retard.

oh the irony

>buy western game on PS4
>60 GB average
>buy japanese game on PS4
>25 GB max with all DLC installed

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>feel like playing game
>go to install
>50+ GB, 4-5 hours to install
yeah no
20 GB should be the cap on games until a certain amount of the planet has X amount of internet speed.

>>389241607
Those 4k assets are heavy. That's you wanted right?

>>389241650
Hey remember when you could put a fucking game in the console and it booted instantly?

>>389243686

stfu grampa, nobody gives a shit about the "good old days" or whatever shit you're spewing out of your stupid ass.

>>389243858

Recently bought Evil Within and it's DLCs for 10 neetbux. The size of that game folder is 60 fucking gigs. Nips dont compress!

You'd think years into this shit people would get it by now. Uncompressed audio in multiple languages most of the time, megatextures in some cases, 4k textures and shit in other cases, and I oersonally believe intentional bloat just to fuck with pirates.

>>389243902
>4k

fucking shit ass poor faggot resolution. Real men play on 8k.

>>389243127

Interesting, I'll look into that. Thanks senpai.

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>60GB game
>5 hours of gameplay

>1MB-2000MB game
>200+ hours of gameplay

>>389241650
>games are getting bigger
>most are worse than literal megabyte games from the SNES era

>>389243790
Dude l live in a thirdworld shithole and we dont have data cap. It's an americlap thing, they love being jewed

>>389243271
Whatever you do, only get HGST

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>cod ww2 will be 70 gb
Blacks ops 2 was 5 gb, what the actual fuck.

>>389243151
You can get some skins and play those maps in private matches thats it i think

>>389243389
FF15 isnt going to be 170gb.

http://wccftech.com/final-fantasy-xv-wont-require-170gb-pc/

>>389241607
>terra yet hard rice
Fucking phoneposters.

>>389242675
tfw we're living in times where game repacks/rips are revelant again

the last time they were popular was like 20 years ago when everyone had 4gb hard drives and games were cut down from entire CD to 20-50 megabytes

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>66gb
>FF XV already 200gb

>>389243858
Japaneese games use textures and animations from last gen thats why. Example Yakuza,Persona,Tekken


>>389243894
>Gaming should be stalled until i get better shit
no thanks. You fags sound like console fags.

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>>389244162
And black ops 2 looked like this.

>>389244415
>having more detailed models takes up more file size
Huh

>>389244000
>intentional bloat just to fuck with pirates
>download repack
>???
>profit

>game has like 30 languages
>each takes up at least a gig
Let me just choose English please, stop making me download these poverty languages and wasting space

>>389241607
Shit like payday 2 takes 50gb and it looks like COD 2.

>right click game folder
>compress
>distribute it on Steam
Man, these companies should be hiring me.

>>389241889
>built pc 6 years ago
>1 TB storage
>thinking about getting an additional 500gb or so but is generally fine
You're just a retard senpai

>>389244596
So much this

praise be to fitgirls

>>389244483
Never said it was effective lel, just another sad attempt that ultimately fucks over paying customers more than anything. It's like the lowest tier shit they can do, lazy as fuck 'drm', the CDkey of 2017.

The only people it helps is Western Digital and all the other Hdd makers who are laughing all the way to the bank

>>389241650
>it takes him an hour to download 65gb
Fucking poorfags with 3rd world internet

Every now and then I get itch to replay D44M but then again I cannot bother making 100 gb free space so yea...

>>389244596
Yup, i get it has a shitton of content, but still

>>389244548
>game has 4 modes
>Not just letting me download single player or multiplayer

thats even shittier.

>Americaps

>>389244745
They are retards for not letting people download single player and multiplayer separately.

>people not deleting games they dont play anymore or finished already

what? How many games you actively play even ? Why would you need 50 games at same time.

Just delete games you finished.

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>uncompressed audio
>the game is installing 22 languages

>>389245140
literally name one game does this.

>>389243271
10tb hdd and 1tb ssd

I have money

>>389245186
some MMOs
>mmos
I know
also bioshock (can't remember which one)

>>389245186
All of them nowadays.

>>389242320
>I didnt say that.
yes you did. you even say it in this post:
>Either they are gonna make it compressable so cpus of consoles can run it while with game. This means texture and sound is going to worse.

>>389241957
I have bad news, half the new games just come with a single dvd that installs steam and about 4gb of data, they expect you to download the rest.

>>389241807
>>389241807
Mine is 0.35Mbps. I want to die.

>>389243790
>>389243542
In Russia where everyone is poor we don't even have that shit. I download a couple terabytes of blu-rays and shit a month.

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>>389241607
>>389241650
>think about playing some ass creed 2 on my ps3 for old time's sake
>dust off the console and insert the disc
>it tells me that it needs to install for the next hour
>after installation it needs to update it and tells me that it takes approximately 3 hours
>it ends up taking 6 hours to download and another 3 to install everything
>when it's done I no longer feel the need to play it and go to sleep
this isn't fun

>>389245879
This is really killing consoles for me.

Sometimes I just want to pop in a game and play it for half an hour

>>389243514
Repacks usually just use a ridiculous compression method that will take you an entire day to unpack with a good CPU, but the final unpacked data is the same size as the original. That and they cut out stuff like extra language audio and such.

>>389241607
It's not lack of compression that does it, it's the simple fact that big studios churn out lots of high resolution assets. And they do use compression -- with fast asset-optimized compression methods they can squeeze more bandwidth than if things were uncompressed.

>>389245943
It's so stupid because plug and play was a huge advantage consoles had.

>>389244057
what are you smoking. 2000 is way more than 60

>M-MUH TEXTURES AND AUDIO
texture and sound quality/detail didn't noticeably improve in the last 5 years or more

>>389245989
TIL half an hour is all day.

>>389242489
>make game have compressed textures but not playable on console = best textures and less size but not playable on console
seems good to me, where's the problem?

>>389246127
>tfw mass effect 2 has higher quality audio than most modern games that are 5-10 times bigger
What are devs even doing any more

>>389245989
>you an entire day to unpack with a good CPU
Talk about hyperbole. It never ever take more than an hour.

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>>389245989
>that will take you an entire day to unpack with a good CPU

>>361487012

>>389241607
Just grab the repack pirate version.
Most get rid of the blank files on top of compressing too.

>>389246089
>gigs!

I have better question.
Why are modern games increasingly more taxing on CPU instead of GPU? Few years back I could run newest games no problem if I just uprgraded graphics card, nowadays games max out my i5 6400 and bottleneck card regularly. Some games even have i7s as minimum requirements.

>>389241607
>Bloated

This meme again.

Games were like 4mb ages ago.
Then they increased and increased as graphics and technology advances. Deal with it as it's going to be more and more.

>>389246186
That you are a NEET with an elitist attitude and companies dont cater to people like you but to the general populace who buys their games on their platform of choice, AKA consoles.

>>389246480
the proportion of graphics-size is becoming shittier and shittier though, we barely see any graphic improvement but file sizes are skyrocketing

>>389246480
they just don't need to compress games anymore because they don't put them on DVD

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>>389246159
>>389246251
>>389246325
Hyperboles are a valid use of language.

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even 10GB is a pain in the ass for me

>>389245879
And after all that you have to play AssCreed2, a terrible cinematic game. I feel for you.

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>mobile data on H+ is faster than most aussie and burger home internet
lmao

>>389246480
It's literally just toasterfags and cup-and-string internetfags that complain about file size. It literally means nothing to people living in the 1st world.

>>389243927

Sure and if it had any bugs in it you just had to hope they didn't happen to you.

>>389244000
>>389242530

The "it stops piracy" argument can't possibly be anything more than a dumb theory.

What about digital downloads? It can't be true because digital downloads are a thing for legitimate customers.

>>389241607
51GB of uncompressed audio and prerendered cutscenes.

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>FF XIII have 60GB
>20GB is just the cutscenes with english voices that I will just delete after downloading

Dubfags were a mistake.

>>389241607
Because laziness and pressure to release FAST.

>efficient compression takes time and effort
>entities (enemy, gun, wall, whatever) with hue variation will use the same 3D model, obviously, but will have its declination in a full new set of texture file (why bother coding hue variation when you can just duplicate the different file, takes way less time)
>voice dubbing in low compression format (rpg = hours and hours of dialogue) weighs a whole lot
>textures for all available res (720p to 4k) in low compression format

And before you say anything about compression ..
Many games today use fucking ogg or any other high quality high size formats for all their files.
I can understand if you have the music in these formats but the background city noise ? The car horns ? The npc random dialogs ? Any weapon sounds like the clank of a sword or a gun shot ?
And that's just the sound.

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It's okay I guess.

>>389241607
Devs have realized if you're on PC it's expected that we can brute force specs. It's easier to leave it uncompressed. They don't take into consideration cucks that have data caps.

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>>389245989

My CPU is a dual core shit, and I never wasted more than half an hour to unpack.

Are you using a pentium III? How the fuck can you take a day to unpack a game?

>>389241607
The most shocking one in recent memory was the update data for FFXV. I remember it being absolutely shocking on PS4

>>389247923

Hard Disks are cheap even in my third world shithole. The only excuse you guys have is the internet connection.

>>389247447
>B-BUH-BUT-BU-BU-BUH-BU-B--

Atleast nothing is reaching 100 gigs consistently yet the first game that has is ARK

>>389247997
It's because you pirate other games idiot
Try unpacking the FITGIRL repack of Mass Effect Andromeda
inb4 b-but it's a shit game
I know that, after pirating and trying it

>>389246613
>WAAAAHHHH IT TAKES AN ENTIRE DAY TO UNPACK A GAME!!!!!!!
>no it doesn't you fucking liar
>UUUHHHHH IT'S HYPERBOLE!!!! HYPERBOLE!!! THAT TOALLY EXCUSES MY LIE

>>389247762
Its just my personal opinion that it's partly about piracy, simply because to me it seems like something they would do, but I could be wrong, it's just as likely that it's something really dumb like that they just don't care about filesizes anymore.

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this is what you get /v/.
you laughed at Skyrim being 5GB and Dark Souls being 4GB.
This is what you fucking get, I hope you faggots all die of heart attacks at a young age from working 4 jobs trying to pay for all the harddrives you're going to need to store your steam libraries you fucking pieces of human garbage.

>>389245186
First fucking Titanfall was cancer with this.
~50gb game, out of that 35gb is uncompressed audio.

>>389241607
You want 4K graphics on large game world but don't want to download 66GB? What is wrong with you?

Jesting. I wish there was optional downloads where you can ignore 4K res or 520p res or non-english sounds or 4K game video.

>>389248273

>download a shitty game and unpacking it just to prove an anonymous fag wrong in a forum discussion

Now you are just being dishonest. You know I wont do that.

>>389248378
>working 4 jobs trying to pay for all the harddrives
t. waiter

These threads are real? I mean, I thought this is just an elaborate ruse since PCfags play everything in 4K / 144FPS and point out every single pixel if it isn't up to the standard.

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This is my wireless connection.
$55/month.

>>389248378

Skyrim is 7 and DS is 8.

>>389248281
kek
not the anon you responded to but repacks are pretty quick.

>>389248452
>Now you are just being dishonest
That was my first post in the thread, surely you can see that it's a new IP, right?
And why not? According to you, half an hour is the absolute maximum time unpacking will take
It's not like you even need to fully complete it, just let it unpack for 5 minutes and look at the "time remaining" figure

>>389248530
I pay £13 a month for all-you-can-eat 4G. Why is the US so shit?

>>389247540
Thank god developers used to keep these to a minimum instead of just letting players betatest it in the official releases to patch it in a later update

>>389241957
>decide to play BF4 again
>get the disc and put in PC
>installs quickly
>Update required 66GB
>rewrites files already on disc
>wait 2 days for it to download
>load up a match and get bored

>>389248717
This is in Denmark. $55 is ~350dkk. It pocketchange here.

>>389246235
is that true

>>389248284
I don't think I would let the size of a game stop me from playing a game I really want to play, but it's an extra barrier keeping me from playing games I don't really care about. Instead of spending a whole day to download The Witcher 3 I'd rather go play Heroes of the Storm or something.

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>Video-games get larger and more bloated file sizes
>Internet data plans get worse and smaller

Devs should be forced to repack their own games, there should be a fucking option to only download one language pack. Audio files should not be FLACs when it just bloats the file size and almost 99% of people can't tell the difference anyway.

>>389248542
not on release they weren't.

>>389248281
>thinking the argument was about exactly how long it takes to unpack a game

>>389249267
If we're talking hypothetical scenarios that won't happen it would be far better to rip apart all the legal circlejerking telecoms corporations set up so they can have localized monopolies and ban competition.

>>389248284
Japanese games used to be purposefully bloated back before high speed internet, but that was just extra padding to fill the cd. Today's games are full of high res textures that fill up most of the space. Take Skyrim for example. The base game at release was under 5GB. Add a high res texture pack and it is an additional 7GB.

>>389249267
They just wanna discourage piracy
People won't immediately refund a game just cause it takes forever to download, but a pirate who just wants to play a random new game may reconsider if it's 70GB

>>389241650
>65GB
>An hour to download
I spent four hours downloading 19GB

>>389244102
Data caps and non exist everywhere, I've been an americlap with no cap my whole life.

512/1024 textures are still good

>>389242364
Yes

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>>389249647

>>389246058
What really sucks is psn servers are trash and take forever to download on any connection. I have a 100mb down connection and a 50 gig game on psn takes 3 or 4 hours while on steam it only takes About 45 minutes.

>>389246089

2000MB "way more than" 60GB

nigga r u on meth retard kill yo self

>>389249497
It doesn't have anything to do with piracy for christ sake. Just delete that line of thought in your brain right now. They simply do a lousy job since they can get away with it on the disc based consoles.

>>389241650
fuck off and have some standards
optimization is a lost art. we can partly thank DRM for that

>>389249679


i will put my penis in yo mouth fagget

>>389249856
Wow you worded your opinion way stronger, that means it must be more correct than my actual fact

>>389243790
Comcast in Florida has data caps. So basically a third world hole

>>389249713
Fugg are you me? Psn on ps3 almost made my phat overheat. The old ui was 6 million times better.

What even is the logic behind "big file size fucks with pirates"? How is it harder to download 50gb from piratebay than from steam? How does pirated gigabytes take more space from your ssd than legit gigabytes?

>>389241607
Mostly uncompressed audio. Blu-ray can hold like 50gb up to 200gb depending on number of layers. Console discs have the space so it gets used.

>tfw have gigabit internet and get ~99MB/s from steam

>>389249967
Oh, it was just bait. Carry on then.

>>389250049
>>389249497

>>389246186
Not as much sales as console and too much money gone.

>>389250049

I believe it's because pirated games download speed depends on the seeders, unlike the private servers.

Of course, this logic only works for underground games. If the game is popular enough, the pirated one will download even faster.

>>389248284
It being about piracy is retarded since paying customers also have to put up with the longer download times. In fact there's a few people out there that download highly compressed repacks and then extract them to the game folder so Steam will recognize the files and shorten the download times.
>it's just as likely that it's something really dumb like that they just don't care about filesizes anymore.
Wrong. Memory and data streaming speeds are still at a premium in console land, which is what most games are made for. They still have 8GB of RAM which is shared between the system and the GPU, and data has to either be streamed from a slow-as-molasses disc drive or loaded from an HDD which isn't even that big by computer standards. On top of that you HAVE to compress your textures anyway like it or not, GPUs don't take RAW images or lossless image formats like PNG natively, they have to be converted to a format the GPU understands like DDS which is obviously optimized for size.

The truth is there's no hidden agenda or conspiracy going on. The generational leap means they're using higher res textures now, so shit takes more space as a result. Also some games that use prerendered cutscenes render the video at higher resolutions to match the higher res output of current gen consoles.

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yfw old 2 gigabyte game better than 70 gb game

>>389250247
That's not the point at all
A pirate will rarely feel as strongly about a game as a customer does. The customer probably got hyped for months and pre-ordered like a fucking retard so he will definitely download the game no matter how long it takes
The pirate just wants to check out a new game but doesn't feel particularly strongly about it

>>389241650
Some of us choose not to live in the middle of a disgusting shitty cockroach filled city so our internet isn't quite as good. So yes 66GB will take most of or an entire day to download. Small price to pay for not living like an insect.

>>389245879
Fucking ps3 takes a million years to download a 50mb patch. I hate that shit.

>>389241873
Not everything is about games you faggot. I only have games that I currently play installed but I still need 6TB for other stuff. I'm gonna have to buy more soon too.

>>389250043
No, I never owned a ps3, just a ps4 for Bloodborne, nioh and let it die.

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>>389247997

why did they make everyone so ugly in the anime

>>389250505
Streaming porn exists now, anon

>years ago
>games take ages to download because shit internet speed
>now
>games take ages to download because lazy devs make them fuckhuge

you cannot defend this

>>389250592
Jesus fucking Christ GoT is so bad it's honestly amazing how it has such a big following.

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>>389245879
>Got Yakuza 5 when it came out digital only on PS3
>Took two days straight of downloading

I mean it was worth it, but holy fuck was waiting for it to download irritating.

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>patch released
>15 gigs

>>389241807
get out of cuckland

>>389241607
voice acting
>muh immersion
fuck off, it limits main character options and hot he can respond situations differently

>>389249497

>Wanna discourage piracy
>But pirates are the ones repacking shit into reasonable filesizes and not the devs with official releases

I simply do not understand this train of thought, like it doesn't compute in my head considering what is actually going on with this kinda shit. I remember when Max Payne 3 came out and it was 35 GB, but I remember hearing of a pirated repack was like 16GB instead. Like, if some PR dude said to tell us that it was to stop pirates, surely they could come up with something that made more sense and couldn't be proven wrong. It always seems like all of these "Anti piracy measures" just seem like shit that benefits pirates only and fucks over paying customers.

>>389250685
>patch released
>kills your hard drive while it patches
fucking payday 2

>>389247447
>People who have poor internet connections don't have valid complaints 'cause I have a decent internet connection

Well, that's nice for you, but even people living in 1st world countries have to deal with poor net if they live out in the stix. Ultimately, it's pretty awful that companies can be lazy little shits when it comes to compression, even for someone like you, as you have a limited amount of hardrive space.

>>389250781
Downloading and unpacking repacks takes longer than just downloading the entire thing

>>389250705
Literally all of Europe is cuckland though so that's not very helpful

>>389250792
Total Warhammer is fun
>20MB patch released
>has to create the entire game folder (35GB) in another folder before it even starts downloading the patch and then copies it over

>>389242364

You're doing things entirely backwards you dip. Read/write speeds are bad if you're using a USB external hard drive, especially if it's a hard disk and not an SSD, and the cost per GB on an SSD is way more than the cost per GB on an HDD. You want an internal SSD connected with SATA or better for games and an external multi-TB external for general data storage, preferably multiple ones so you can have backups.

My internet is so good that I only use a 250GB SSD. I just delete stuff and re-download it when I want it again.

I live in the countryside too.

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>>389250864

Sometimes, sure. But ultimately it's done PC side and doesn't eat into data plans like a fat tumblr landwhale going at an unhealthy meal.

It's still better.

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>>389241607
They're working in tandem with Comcast to make you go over your data limit.

>>389242227
Replace them yourself, assuming you're in a house and not an apartment, then take it out of the rent.

>>389249497
actually it's the exact opposite
Pirated copies ar ecompressed by pirates, so it's actually faster to download a pirated copy
that's what I did with doom 2016
I bought it on steam, downloaded a pirated copy and just moved all the files into the steam directory.
took 2 hours instead of 16

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>>389251104
>data plans

Isn't FFXV 150GB on PC?

I can think of absolutely no reason that could be possible for any game, let alone one as visually average as FFXV.

>>389245704
I regret to say that I share the same horrible fate

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>>389251196

Sorry that not everyone can pay for a good internet connection with their parents money like you can.

>>389248281
Remember old days of DOS game unpacking ?
"Please wait a few days"

>>389251332
You can't afford about 40 bucks a month?
Sorry that not everyone is a brainlet with a McJob

>>389251174
>data caps
Do amerilards actually still have them?

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>2011
>Skyrim and Sonic Generations are going to be out in a few days
>Sonic has a 7GB filesize while Skyrim has 6GB
>There are constant threads on /v/ full of people who think Skyrim will be shorter than Sonic Generations because of this
Most people don't know that files even have a size. Most of the ones that do, don't understand what filesize actually means. They really think that bigger = better. Even on a site like this most people don't understand.

>>389251413
yes
thanks to people being dumb as fuck and legal circlejerking ISPs can basically do whatever the hell they want

>>389251413
I pay $90 a month. It is the middle most package. It comes with a 1TB a month bandwidth limit, and that counts data up and down, so maintaining good standing on private trackers is becoming annoying really quick.

>>389251413
Free market bro.

If you don't like it pick another service provider - oh wait there are none.

>>389251413
Sadly yes. The cable companies convinced the government that we were running out of bandwidth.

>>389251406

Depending on your location, 40 bucks a month gets you the lowest tier bullshit. You're just lucky you live in an area where you aren't cucked by comcast or some equally shitty ISP.

>>389251417
I am still impressed that Skyrim was only 6GB

>>389243931
>grampa
What's it like growing up in the worst generation this world has produced since Baby Boomers?

>>389251413
Murica is LITERALLY second world status nowadays.

>>389251174
What the fuck are you downloading more than a TB per month for? I downloaded a shitload of games I got in the summer sale in august and that got me up to 377GB

>>389251389
I remember loading games from a cassette.

>>389251558
One of the worst storage (speed wise) ever made ..

>>389251413
>americlaps
>not corp slaves
Pick one.

>>389251553
>shitload of games
>1 game is about 65 gb
>6 games is a shitload of games

Try having more than one user in the household. I've got 5 devices connected to the internet right now.

>>389251691
>>1 game is about 65 gb
So you only play AAA games and you have more people in your household
Fuck off normie

>>389251630
Great for piracy though.

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I'm fairly convinced my family is getting ripped off on whatever they pay for our internet. I wish they'd just join the current century and drop cable, use that money to get decent interbutts. Hell, my technologically impaired hippie stoner friend has net speeds 4x faster than mine and all he does is watch movies and post dank memes. Overheard his dad say he's been using the same password for all of his accounts for over 15 years.

>>389251406
45 is the lowest tier by me and I get 20MBps. If you're not in the smack dab middle of a filthy 5 million+ person city 40 won't get you shit.

>my first pc had a 800mb HD
>monster truck madness was a 400mb install
What a shit game though.

>>389251510
>>389252010
I forgot the dollar isn't worth shit anymore
50+ bucks then

>>389251548
Literally impossible by definition you fucking idiot.

>>389241607
>2017
>not having a terra yet hard rice

lmaoing at your lives

>>389244459
Not the models themselves, the textures.
The fucking textures.
Fuck.
Fucking textures, fuck you.

>>389241650
>I'm ok with lower standards because I pay for the best

It's all fun and games until you have to upgrade your plan again to get hour downloads for the standard 150gb games of the future

That's like saying unoptimized games are ok because I have 16gb of RAM anyway. Actually, it's worse than that, because file size doesn't mean the game looks or plays good or bad.

>>389249561
Comcast has data caps in Florida.

>>389252090
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World
>Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the definition has instead largely shifted to any country with little political risk and a well functioning democracy, rule of law, capitalist economy, economic stability and high standard of living. Various ways in which modern First World countries are often determined include GDP, GNP, literacy rates, life expectancy, and the Human Development Index.[1] In common usage, as per Merriam-Webster, "first world" now typically refers to "the highly developed industrialized nations often considered the westernized countries of the world".[2]

Some days I have 7MB/s download
Some days I have 1MB/s download

why

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>game sizes getting bigger
>publishers stop including disks with install data in physical copies

>>389252410
the jews

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>>389241957

>>389251761
You're the fucking "normie" if you never downloaded more than 1To of shit in a month

>>389250865
Keep telling yourself that

Don't you PC fags brag about your large SSDs and Graphics cards, ram, and internet speed?

Why os this a problem to you?

Surely you can handle it.

>>389252476
You forgot these ((()))

>>389252410
Probably more people in your IP pool using bandwidth during those times.

>>389252410
It's dependent on how many of your neighbours are watching netflix at any one time.

>>389252569
Sure thing faggot, enjoy your hollywood movies and AAA games

>>389252635
I live in a street with incredibly old people, I doubt any of them even know what the internet is.

>>389241607
PC gamers complained for years about compressed textures and low quality videos due to the memory budget and native resolution of last gen console games.

Now that the current gen is firmly established and these limitations no longer exist, developers are giving you what you wanted.

>>389252596
no, it's not those jews, the other jews

This isn't the main problem, but it's certainly part of it:

Devs using bloated-as-fuck engines like Unity and Unreal. Unity will impart a minimal filesize of 100MB to even the simplest indie game. Yeah, I know it's just 100MB - but no Pong clone should be 100 MB. And, Unreal is even worse with this.

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>>389252539
Make it stop, I can't take it anymore.

>>389241873
>uninstall games you are not playing
Then I'm gonna have to download it again if I want to play it again. I have a 150 GB per month cap so downloading 60+ GB games when I want to play them again isn't an option.

>>389251332
this entire reply lmao get fucked

>>389252965
>150 GB per month cap

Fucking hell, isn't this a violation of your human rights or some shit.

>>389252965
the last time i had a data cap was in 1995

>>389253247
welcome to judiasm
some companies even put data caps on fiber

A ps1 game could be like 500 times bigger than a game from the generation before it so I don't see what the big fuzz is about ps4 games being ten times bigger than ps3 games

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>70GB vidya
>40GB is lossless audio files that won't make a difference unless you live in a concert hall
>20GB is language packs used by only a tiny percentage of the userbase
>3GB DRM
>2GB bloatware shoveled in by the publisher
>5GB actual game assets

>>389241693
Audio can't possibly take up that much space. 3 hours worth of music at 256kbps should be well under a gig.

>>389253435
you'd be surprised

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>>389245005
> pirated cod4
>finished campaign hell and back
>deleted the singleplayer and now have 3 giga of multiplayer only

You are the reason why they removed features that were in old installers like choosing to not have german or russian.

>>389243927
>console
I almost puked. End yourself, retardo.

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>$31 USD a month for this + basic cable TV
>no data cap
>no angry letters from ISP telling me to stop pirating

>>389253517
Yeah but then you have to live in Mexico.

>>389253517
How is it running into cartel executions wherever you go?

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>>389251413
FIOS doesn't
comcast does

>>389253643
better than living in a country with muslims, niggers and psychopath school shooters

>>389253517
I've been with the same ISP for 15 years, never had a letter about piracy despite not paying for a single movie or album in that time.

>>389252391
Floridafag here, I have Spectrum (formerly Brighthouse) the service has had a noticeable decline in quality since the merger, but might still be better than Comcast.

>>389253726
I'm not american you shitskin

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>>389252593
>tfw torrenting too much porn

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>Used to live in a rural english village
>internet speed was like 400kb/s
>games like MP3 and Stick of Truth took a week to download
Thank fuck I moved closer to a city and now have 6mb/s speed.

>>389241607
incompetent devs that can't into proper file compression

>>389253828
I feel you man. I'm cleaning out a lot of my western stuff since it's super easy to find and either stream or redownload, but I'm having a hard time bringing myself to delete my JAVs. A lot of the ones I have are pretty difficult to find.

>>389241607
>t.bandwidthlet

>>389253802
>tfw had knology for ages, who were shit but nice, and then they merged with wide open west and the service got exponentially better
they don't even give a shit about piracy it's great
best florida ISP

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>>389253842
>tfw i went from 3.5mbps DSL to 50mb fiber to gigabit fiber

>>389254045
i can't stand censored porn, mine is all degenerate fetish shit or I simply go on download binges and then never actually watch most of it

>>389253842
I get 200mb/s in a rural English village.

I don't know what they were smoking at NTL when they decided where to install fibre.

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>>389241607
>game takes up 60gb on my tiny ssd
>evertime it updates it needs another 60gb ofspace

>>389254227
I'm in an area with fiber but I don't think I have fiber as part of my package.

One word: optimization
Devs are too lazy to try and make the game smaller than the beta test they originally made. Then they have the gall to push a half finished product out the door full of glitches.

I 3D model as a hobby and strive to make my models the most efficient and smallest file size possible to fit as much as I can into it. I sometimes 3D model at work too, I've cut down massive files into as much as half their size from my own optimization.

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>>389253517
Please move to a first world country bro
>$15 a month
>no data cap

>>389254159
>i can't stand censored porn, mine is all degenerate fetish shit
Fortunately, my favorite JAVs are the ones where the girls are wearing the strapons that cum, so the censoring makes it look better since it's that much harder to tell that it's fake.

Too bad I have a plastic surgery fetish and there's nothing even close to a japanese Candy Charms or Amy Anderssen.

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>>389253842
>tfw live in an awful bong city and get pic related for £40 a month
The actual average speed I get when downloading is about half of that and when someone watches YouTube videos my ping shoots up to around 500ms in games.

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>>389252247
>expecting /v/ to know anything about textures or models
come on, son, this board is literally filled to the brim with do-nothing retards

As a dev myself, I find uncompressed audio/textures absolutely disgusting.
But 4k is on the rise and devs want to force new tech from day one. That's their reasoning.

>skyrim + all DLCs
>10 gigs
>fallout 4 + all DLCs
>20 gigs
>skyrim has 10x the players
explain this

>>389254542
original skyrim or special edition?

>>389254542
Who cares? They're both the same shit

>>389246089
But steel is heavier than feathers

>>389254489
>>389254330
Can't you lads switch to Virgin?

>>389254542
skyrim has more, and better mods

>>389254718
It's my parents' internet package and they've been with BT for a while.

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Help.

>>389253498
What is going on there?

>>389254718
KCOM own all the telecommunications infrastructure in this city and charge a premium for other ISPs to use their networks, therefore the ISPs either stay away or dump that charge onto us. So basically they have a monopoly.

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>Buy physical copy of MGSV like a fucking dinosaur
>put disc in slot
>wait 2-3 hours while it (((installs)))
>wait 1-2 more hours while it (((updates)))
It made me dust off my old 360 and play DD for the rest of the night. Why can't I just play the fucking game when it goes in the fucking machine?

>>389241650
I have 500+ games installed on my computer right now. If they were all 50GB, I would need 25TB of HDD space.

>>389254718
That's what she said

>>389255045
At least you got those cream coloured phone boxes though.

>>389253498
What am I looking here

>>389253403
They should make lossless audio a DLC option.

>>389255163
>I have 500+ games installed on my computer right now

Are you a hoarder with physical stuff too.

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>>389241650
>>389241807
>>389241607
>it takes a hour to download

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>The new gears of war game is over fucking 80 gb to download

This is amateur work. Motherfucking lazy ass AAA devs need to learn how to optimize their games, thats why they are so buggy and full of game breaking glitches now.

>>389255713
>Windows 10 only
Why bother

>>389241607
Maybe it's an anti piracy measure?

>>389251493
And i thought Belgium was almost in the top rank shitty prices for the internet access ..
>pay 50€/month for internet (ONLY)
>115Mbps down / 7Mbps up
>no limit d/u

Where are you from exactly ?

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I dont know whats worst:

Game sizes keep getting bigger while the gameplay keeps getting smaller or the fact people are trying to defend this bullshit.

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>thread inspires me to check what internet plans I can upgrade to
>at&t just turned on gigapower for my neighborhood
OH SHIT NIGGERS

>>389251413
And even then americans have it good compared to Canada. There's 2 ISP available here. The best deal money can buy from them is:

isp#1: 25 down, 5 up, 80gb cap
isp#2: 12 down, 3 up, 400gb cap

Just end me.

>>389256160
That's how normalizations works. Soon there will be a whole generation whose only idea of videogames are 100+GB of gigatextures while the gameplay consist of [press X to Jason] and [Hate Newspaper].

>>389255143
That's one thing i always was jealous of about consoles as a "always pc" guy: put the shit in, hit play, it fucking plays like it's an audio CD.

You get none of that nowadays.

>>389256560
I'm scared already

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>>389253515

>>389256497
>100Mb/s
>1TB cap

What the fuck.