Nintendo has always been jews with memory... >NINTENDO S

Pretty sure the expansion pak was free with games that needed it.

I got mine bundled with DK64 and I did not pay more than the average N64 game.

That shit came free with DK64, which lhad to have significantly cut into the profits made per game sale.

>>389220735
No it wasn't faggot, was sold before it was bundled, only because dk64 needed it to work right

>>389220735
It only came bundled with DK64 because there was a bug in the game where it wouldn't work without the pak, devs couldn't figure the bug out in time so they had to ship with the pak.

>>389220698
>comparing expandable RAM required by three games to non-proprietary microSD required by downloadable games where the developers were too lazy to compress their game
No, also that's nothing compared to Sony and their proprietary memory cards.

>>389220698
>Crying about having to buy SD cards
Yeah, giving the consumer choice fucking sucks.

Title is total click bait. "Memory cards" when what it means is an SD card. They said memory cards instead because it sounds way worse "Wow I have to pay $10 for a memory card!" when SD cards are actually useful for other things and pretty common these days. On top of that, this is obviously referring to DLC content, because you have to stick that somewhere. And honestly, if you're playing games that have so much DLC you need external memory to hold it, you're probably playing a shitty game.

>>389221008
the nintendo defenders are such faggots, they love getting reamed by Nin

>>389220835
No it wasn't. I got DK64 on launch and it was bundled.

You're retarded if you bought it separately.

>>389221182
it came out way before dk64 u underage faggot

>>389221098
Saying that IGN shouldn't be lying about the content of their article in their titles is being a faggot? You think journalists should straight up lie for clicks? It is an objectively false statement that the Switch uses or requires "memory cards" and don't tell me this isn't deliberate.

>Current gen console games need to be installed to physical memory
k

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>>389221214
No game needed it until DK64, you're an absolute moron if you bought it separately.

>>389221295
It was hyped to hell when it came out, with no indication dk64 would include it for free.

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>>389220698
As if Sony is any better.

>>389221406
This. At least Nintendo has the goddamn decency to use a standard memory format.

>>389221330
https://youtu.be/vrFl7rFYmhg?t=11m10s
Wrong again.

>>389221267
Switch doesn't have to unless you go digital only. Some games get relatively large patches though like Super Bomberman R.

>>389221330
Yes but it wasn't required for anything. Besides, how is selling an optional memory expansion instead of releasing a brand new console a bad thing?

>>389221406
They're much worse in fact. The Switch doesn't use a proprietary format so you can get SD cards for much cheaper. I'm seeing 64gb for $20 an Amazon and I'm sure you could get cheaper if you waited for deals.

>>389221494
>he didnt read gaming mags as a kid, didnt know the hype, as it increased the gore in turok 2, helped star wars rouge squadron etc...

>>389221406
>Pro Duo
No no. Pro duos were tolerable. Vita's proprietary memory literally killed the device.

>people surprised a tablet needs sd cards for extra storage

>>389221295
I never cared of DK64, and still dont, but I bought it separately just to get to play Perfect Dark and Majora's Mask.

>>389220810
It kind of worked out in the end for Nintendo since Majora's Mask didn't have to bundle it.

>>389220698
>I don't know the difference between volatile and non-volatile memory
Really makes you think

>>389221295
He's right though. You could buy the Expansion Pak for Rogue Squadron and Turok 2 already in late 1998, which unlocked the high res modes in those games. They might not have run that smoothly, but seeing your N64 output 'high-res' visuals in 1998 approaching the quality of a high-end video card was a sight to behold.

>>389221582
>increased the gore in turok 2
That was just a rumor, it gave the option to increase the resolution in tons of games at the expense of framerate, including Rouge Squadron (only the framerate in that game remains mostly the same due to Kraut magic).

As much as people are overreacting to something this simple, the fault shouldn't be on Nintendo for advertising this.

The fault should be on Nintendo for only offering 32gbs in current year. Both the Xbox one and the PS4 offered at the bare minimum 250 gigs, and Nintendo is still at fucking 32?

>>389221682
>Volatile memory
>Only keeps data while device is powered
I did not know this was the term for this.

>>389221182
DK64 cost like, $20 more then the average N64 game, probably because they bundled the expansion pack.
You weren't getting it for free with DK64

>>389220917
It's even lazier than that.

There's a buffer overflow glitch somewhere in the game and they couldn't be arsed to find it so they just made the expansion pak mandatory.

It's like in an MMO when you go back to old content and the bosses can't do significant damage to you.

>memory cards
>in twenty seventeen
>fucking MEMORY CARDS.

>>389221780
Nintenbros love being abused.

>>389221235
There is one game that would require it -- the currently Japanese-only compilation of Dragon Quest Heroes I and II, whose install size would swallow up all of the Switch's available internal memory and then some. But even that's stretching it as it's a collection of two fully-featured games with all post-launch content.

And really, the port is typical Koei-Tecmo -- horridly unoptimized. You're really better off playng those games on the PS4 or PC well above the stated requirements.

>>389221794
>too retarded to read the article or the thread
This is the problem with clickbait, its able to spread misinformation to the truly stupid.

>>389221829
Before that on SNES our Nintenfriends were paying for extensive cartridges with enhancement chips inside because the SNES was such a weak piece of shit it needed them to compete with Genesis

>3DS requires a SD card, which is included
>most games are so small that they'll fit in the 4GB card
>majority of 3DS games are by Japanese devs

Meanwhile
>switch comes with 32GB but has room for SD card, which wasn't included
>most games, except for Zelda are less than 3GB
>it's western devs that are making 50GB games and forcing game installs
>it's western devs that are demanding SD access for patches and DLC

>>389221295
I don't like Turok 2 anymore, and while I still like Perfect Dark I don't hold it in the same esteem as I did.

Still, these games enhanced with the pak were well worth it back in the day.

>SD cards that Nintendo doesn't even get kickback profits from
JEWS!!! Breaking News!

>Vita $100 ass fucking proprietary memory cards
Oh, well, that's reasonable.

>>389221920
I did read the article.
>memory card
>SD card
What's the difference when the purpose is the same?

>>389222119
Literally anything Nintendo is bad according to /v/.

>>389222119
Memory card = proprietary overpriced scam
SD card = non-proprietary glorious free market

>>389221991
Virtua Racing on Genesis did the same, it had a chip inside for polygonal graphics like Star Fox and cost a lot more than a regular game.

>>389220698
I hate to say it, but 32 GB of internal storage sounds about right for a proprietary tablet at that price range. Any more than that, and you're getting into iPad or Microsoft Tablet prices of $600 or more.

>>389222119
They want you to infer that it's proprietary so you'll click. The fact that it takes SD makes it a non-story.

>>389222253
It ran a lot better than Star Fox did, so at least you were getting value for money

the expansion pak was sold out for months here in germany back when Majora's Mask came out
had to import it

>>389220698
>Nintendo has always been jews with memory
This has been an industry standard for all consoles since 5th gen. Why are we complaining now?

>>389221991
Expensive carts beats buying expensive hardware expansions because Sega didn't plan ahead for expansion chips.

>>389221830
I don't think you understand me. No games will ever require "memory cards." They may however require SD cards. They used the term memory cards as clickbait. Most people have SD cards or don't mine buying one, but everybody would flip the fuck out if they had to buy a proprietary memory card (see the vita).

>>389220698

Storage != Memory

Fucking idiot.

>>389222439
Virtua Racing is a thing you know. The Genesis just didn't need expansion chips. It had a 68000 CPU which was a workstation class processor. The SNES had a 16-bit 6502 which was a low-end CPU that was OK for simple tasks couldn't do complex calculations with any speed whatsoever.

>>389222439
They were planning to do more with the VDP chip other than Virtua Racing which would definitely have turned out much better than the 32X failure they went with.

Can't really criticize them for the Sega CD since the PC Engine/TG-16 CD did the same to greater success in Japan, it just needed less FMV shit and more good games like Snatcher and Sonic CD.

>>389222446
>clickbait

That would be generously assuming some kind of devious intelligence on the part of the retards writing for IGN. I just think they fucked up the title and ended up providing more console war ammo.

>>389222620
Virtua Racing also cost more than Star Fox and was not economically viable for them, Nintendo planned ahead and played it smart by designing things like expansion chip support (which the NES had as well), a better display chip and mode 7.

>>389221595
Not when they first came out. I remember Sony were selling 1GB sticks around the time of the PSP's launch for $1,000.

>>389220698
VIDEO GAMES REQUIRE HARD-DRIVES TO SAVE TO

WOW

IMAGINE HOW CHEAP THE CONSOLE WOULD BE WITHOUT A MANDATORY HARD-DRIVE

It's a half inch thick... 6 inch tablet built like a laptop....

With 32 gigs internal...

How much fucking memory do you expect them to put into a fucking console the size of a large phone?

They aren't even being jews here. The Wii U having like, 8 gigs and 32 gigs, that's being a jew. But not this.

>>389221008
>DLC content
>Down Loadable Content Content

>>389222591
That's what I thought, too. I assumed it was yet another expansion pack for a second. OP is a fucking moron. Besides, if Nintendo released a RAM expansion this early, I'd be pissed too, but bitching about requiring SD cards? What is this? 2005? I have a stack of unused micro and regular cards that I don't even remember buying.

>>389222854
>Virtua Racing also cost more than Star Fox
It cost more not because the Genesis din't have expansion chip support (something you seem to be implying) but because Sega put a much higher quality expansion chip in.

They figured that you'd need a truly serious chip to beat the Genesis built in CPU. The Genesis CPU by itself is almost as powerful as the SuperFX at 3D kek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9v-9lGNJQ4

>>389221991
Says the guy who probably bought 256 kb or whatever "15 blocks memory card" from Sony for 15$. Several times.

>>389223061
128GB like phones have now.

>>389223458
There aren't nearly as many polygons on screen as in Star Fox. Also the SNES can do 3D without SuperFX.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRBX2GbGr2M

>>389223601

I haven't even bought an SD card yet and the only physical game I have is BotW and I haven't reached the limits yet. My digital game collection so far consists of:

Puyo Puyo Tetris
Mario Kart 8 DX
Ultra Street Fighter II
Sonic Mania
Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle

And with all that I have 11.4GB remaining on the internal storage. I'll probably buy at least one or two more games before actually needing an SD card (maybe more if I get some small games), which feels more than fair to me for internal storage on a portable console.

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>>389220698
Its the jew guy again. Got tired of bitching about Final Fantasy XV and now bitching about the N64?This time your 20 years too late mate.

Why dont you ever moan about up to date stuff?

>>389223987
>There aren't nearly as many polygons on screen as in Star Fox
You overestimate the number of polygons Star Fox has. Yes it has more, but not a whole lot more.

>Also the SNES can do 3D without SuperFX.
That video doesn't show 3D but scanline tricks.

>>389224751
Sure its not real polygonal 3D, but the effect is convincing. The real examples of why enhancement chips were the right way to go are Doom and Yoshi's Story.

>>389225246
SNES Doom runs like shit. The 32X version for all its faults at least is playable.

>>389220698
Isn't this statement true for all consoles?
Why single out Nintendo?

>>389225629
The SNES version would be a lot more playable without the control delay, its a shame the 32X version was rushed to meet the Christmas deadline. I still think the SNES one is alright in terms of gameplay though (mostly just because Doom is such a good game).

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>>389220698
pic not related obviously, because Sony started the memory card trend

>>389225808
Those are not for extra RAM retardo

>>389225869

But OP's article is about storage. OP is the retard for comparing it to the N64 RAM expansion.

>>389225869
Irony, how about you look up how ram works before spouting bullshit

>>389221992
What western games? Mario + Rabbids and Just Dance?

>>389221235
>you think journalists should straight up lie for clicks

I don't care about this thread but I'd like to point out that this is actually true.

>>389222075
Said no one, the Vita flopped for a reason and it was due to Sony trying to recoup costs with their retardedly overpriced proprietary SD cards

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>>389225869
And neither are SD cards retardo

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>>389223061
32GBs would have been impressive if it came out in 2010, in 2017, for a portable gaming device that has no hard drive, it's nothing.

>>389225737
All consoles and PCs (except SDDs) come with at least 500 GB HDDs. Phones now come with 32 GB or even more internal memory. There is really no excuse for the Switch. At least is not propietary shit but c'mon, why not at least 128 GB?

>>389224751
>you're right, but I'll phrase my sentence as if you're wrong
Day as usual on /v

Okay, so can someone tell me what I'm supposed to be bitching about this time? So far I haven't experienced any problems getting all of a game's content.

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>>389225808
Man please

>>389220698
The Switch would have been better as a home console.
>Nintendo could have sold what it is currently for a much lower price
>Had the potential to be more powerful
>Had potential to have more memory and not cost too much
>If anything else plugging in hard drives would be possible
>CDs so this wouldn't be an issue in the first place

Not to mention it's pretty shit as a handheld. I can't be the only person that likes my portable handhelds to be on the small side. The Vita and N3DS (none XL) are fucking perfectly sized.

Being a handheld is holding back the Switch in so many ways it's not funny. Not to mention they're still supporting the fucking 3DS. It may as well be a home console.

>>389220698
>Advance past the need for this shit
>Suddenly it's back
1 step forward, two hundred and fifteen steps back.

>>389220698
Nintendo are fucking jews. They should have kept the function where the saves gets saved on the cart like the old 3DS games. Fuck this generation of nintendo.

>>389227483

If they made another home console, people would bitch about it being underpowered and just not buy it. In other words Wii U 2.0. This honestly was the best solution, and judging by the reception it's receiving, this is working out beautifully for them. The best part is they get to continually reap the benefits of the 3DS sales.

>>389227619
>>389227508
>ITT: shitposters purposefully don't read OP's link because they want to shit on the Switch

>>389227483

None of that is true though.

And disks are on their way out. Might as well get used to it now. I mean people are starting to build PC without a CD/BR drive these days.

>>389227619

That's a double-edged sword. You lose your game, you lose your saves. Oh, and with 3DS, any DLC you bought is gone too because it's attached to the system.

An account system that allows you to retrieve DLC and data would be ideal.

>>389227848
Don't argue with them, it's useless. The switch could sell 20 million units tomorrow and they still would find something about it being a shallow success and the end of Nintendo

>>389220835
Bought it in a bundle with Brood War. Suck my ass

>>389228034

That or they would say "Well, when it sells 40 million, THEN we'll talk. Until then, it could suddenly plummet in sales, just like the Wii U!". I'm willing to bet that when it reaches 20 million, people will still say Nintendo isn't out of the woods, and they could fail at any time.

>>389221992
Western devs are ignoring Nintendo altogether.
And those who don't, they pay a higher fee for bigger size cartridges. It's logical they are asking for SD access and go digital instead.

>>389221991
Fuck off underage pony born during the PS3 era.

>>389229268
>Western devs are ignoring Nintendo altogether.
Why do people keep saying this? All but one of the major publishers, ActiBlizzard, is releasing test games. That's not ignoring, that's mild curiosity.

>>389220735
Bought Majora's Mask and Perfect Dark, neither came with a pak.

>>389220698
> nintendo being jews
> no nintendo sd cards on the market

If Nintendo would want to profit from additional SD card sales, they'd do it like Sony and sell their properitary 64gb memory cards for 100€.

These are different things.

SDXC will continue to decrease in price and increase in speed/storage capacity over time, I wouldn't even call this a bad move on Nintendo's part.

>>389220735
I know another game came with one, I ended up with 2 of them.

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>>389220698
>Sony and Microsoft sell you a mediocre harddrive at inflated price with their systems
>Nintendo gives you a choice of SD brand, storage space and when to buy

SUCH JEWS

>People see DK64 as an act of jewery
>Not genius that Rare managed to make DK64 work 99.9% perfectly without it

>>389221520
We're 6 months in. Everyone is going to have to buy an SD card for this eventually. I don't really care but you can't act as if this will only affect a small group of consumers who choose to be affected

>>389232264
Not arguing in favor or against downloading games, but it is the last "home" system to not have to install every game.

As for storage, it's not like the PS4's default 500GB gets you that far either since that system has games like DOOM 2016 which take up huge chunks of your HDD. Not defending the Switch's measly 32GB but in my experience storage has been much less of an issue on my Switch than on my PS4, despite me using a 1TB drive.

>>389232672
>>389232264

If you're going digital on either platform, you can install roughly the same amount of games before you need to expand. The main difference is the Switch physical games don't need to be installed.

That may change if AAA publishers like their Switch sales, but that's how things are currently.

>>389227483
The thing you're describing already exists; It's called the Wii U. It has BotW, Mario Kart 8 and even has a slightly older version of Splatoon. It ended up not selling very well so they made it a handheld.

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>32 gigs of internal storage
I get that Nintendo didn't want to drive up the price of the Switch anymore than it was, but come the fuck on, is at the very least 128 gigs that much?
I will say though that I'm really not that impressed with Sony and Microsoft's storage either. 500 gigs seems like a lot, but some games require nearly 100 gigs of free space, and that's just fucking ridiculous.

>>389220698
Feels good to pirate Nintendo games.

>>389233242
Hi Jim Sterling

>>389233192
Portable devices with 128GB of internal storage tend to be kind of expensive. Including more storage would drive up the base price.

>>389233573
I see laptops with 1TB HDD for under $300

>>389233606
A device like the Switch uses flash NAND, not hard disk drives. They're completely different.