Post the most unsatisfying weapons in vidya. I'll start.

I think I'm the only person on Earth who thinks the Pistol is super satisfying. It's not revolver satisfying but fuck it feels good to jump around and take fuckers down with perfect tracking.

>>389200728
i never understood how valve could spend so much time on hl2's cinematics and then just ruin it with garbage sound design. sounds even weaker than the hl1 pistol.

Pap pap pap pap

>>389200865
I also think this pistol is very comfy to shoot and it feels great.

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so glad they redesigned it into a DMR in 2

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The quake shotgun

>>389200728
Any gun from GTA V, when i shoot those guns i don't feel anything

>>389201135
because it was the "pistol" of quake

>>389200865

The sound of it is weak but I agree it is fun to use otherwise. I like the SMG, too. Not sure why that one gets so much hate either.

>>389200728
The FEAR shotgun. Oh boy, it'll turn a guy to red mist when you're one meter away, but it has a pithy shot sound effect and the same issue most vidya shotguns have in that the shot turns into cotton candy after five meters.

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>>389200728

>not modding it

>>389200728
Why don't you retards never talk about doom pistol? It's awful and literally useless.

>>389201770
Because the pistol in Doom is intentionally a shitty weapon that you're not meant to use when you have literally any other weapon available

>>389201708
look horribly out of place and probably still useless

>>389201929
I would rather use my fists than the pistol desu senpai, RIP AND TEAR THEIR GUTS

>>389201986

????????

The default pistol is a USP match, designed by H&K, that pistol is a Heckler & Koch Mark 23, also designed by H&K. It's not any more out of place than the default pistol, they're from the same manufacturer.

>>389202079
Fists are pretty unsatisfying too desu, I never use them without zerk

>>389202136
He means artstyle-wise, it's way too clean-looking and tacticool

>>389201708
Sauce?

I actually dont like the default pistol in HL2

>>389201135
I quite like the quake shotgun. It's basically the sniper weapon of Quake, and that's awesome. Even late game it has some use.

>>389202273

Yes but it makes sense it's a weapon the combine would use.

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That shit

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>>389200728
>give the pistol a mag-dump (i.e. full-auto) alt-fire
>double the shotgun's pellet count and narrow the firing cone
>have the SMG use homing rounds akin to HL1's bee gun, with a lower firerate
there, I fixed the 3 worst HL2 weapons.

Also contributing to thread with all of this asshole's peashooter primaries, but I guess it makes up for his revive skill.

>>389200908
half life 2 has amazing sound design, the sound of one or two guns doesn't change that

>>389202547
Even the glock in CSS felt better than this piece of shit.
What went so horribly wrong?

>>389202610
The competitive scene and Reddit

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>>389202385
When it comes to aesthetics, the USP Match only comes second to the MK23.

How much of a pleb can you be?

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>>389202610
>tfw 1.6 glock
Shit was cash

All the guns in New Vegas

Great RPG, but the guns and gunplay are just fucking trash. I can't play as anything but melee.

>>389201232
This, there isn't a single difference between the handgun and the assault rifle

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every single weapon in San Andreas

>>389202805
>he doesn't use shotguns
>he doesn't use scoped rifles
>he doesn't use lasers

>>389202935
>The fucking Swat in the kill shot pose
kek

>>389202571
Cei-Rigotti is hardly a peashooter. Its damage model bridges the gap between short range rifles like the M1907 and long range rifles like the Mondragon. It's a pretty useful gun to have.

>>389202385

https://gamebanana.com/skins/53917

>>389201232
This. For this reason alone I stuck to melee (or just flat-out running over people) as much as possible.

For as unfun the guns are in GTAV, it's really satisfying to bash people over the head with melee weapons, or to literally run into people and trample them to death.

>>389202710
Your subjective taste isn't objective nigga.

>>389203084
Thanks friendo.

HL2 arsenal was so strangely shitty considering how orgasmic most weapons were to use in HL1. Its almost like they focused the entire development on the gravgun and just tacked the rest as an afterthought

>>389203069
I meant specifically the autoloaders and the 1907s, but fair point. I'm a fan of the 'Do No Harm' medic playstyle anyway, so it doesn't bother me that much.
>inb4 healslut

>>389200728
To be fair the gun sounds in Doom 3 were shit that year too. Like and it didn't even make sense because the beta Doom 3 sounds were good but they just changed them out for no reason.

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>>389200728
>GunZ The Duel daggers
Literally no other weapon in the history of video games is as boring as this piece of shit after it got nerfed.

>>389203561

I feel shame for how many hours I spent on this game when I was a lad

>>389202610
it has crosshair shaking

>>389203005
Kind of weird how trained forces shoot like gangstas, specially since the policemen were given a specific animation to hold their pistols with two hands.

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This thing is such a piece of shit

>>389205326
say that to me online bitch

>>389205326
is this b8

>>389200728
>Also, the shotgun from hl2 doesn't feel very good either.
How pleb are you? holy moly. The HL2 shotgun is the best shotgun of all time, even surpassing Doom and Doom 2 as it wraps both into one package.

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>>389200728
>fires Doom 3's double barreled shotgun
>sounds like an empty can being kicked

What were they thinking?

>>389200728
The python felt amazing though

i always liked the way the guns felt in hl2 but i don't know how to describe it. they didn't really feel punchy but to me they felt snappy, if that makes sense

>>389202484
I have a feeling that the guns based on real ones in HL2 are intended as something the Combine reworked with their technology for ease of manufacture while still being familiar and ergonomic enough for human use.

>>389200865
I liked it alot, it was accurate and ammo was always plentiful. I also liked the sound effect because it wasnt some xbawks hueg magnum sounding gun for a 9mm

>>389200908

It was a tech demo for their """"""revolutionary""""" physics enging

>>389200865
this
pistol has always felt good I me, I've never understood why people don't like it

>>389200728
Every weapon in W40K: Death Wing. Not a single weapon in that game feels like it has any kick to it

>>389200865
The rabid rapid mashing of left click to spit out 18 quick hot weak shots in a mad frenzy is really really satisfying. It's an excellent contrast between later weapons. HL2 has a really refined weapon pool of different moods and tools that a lot of people underrate simply because they have niches and aren't all the exact same lout booming epic ownage gun.

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>>389200728
I've actually always liked HL2's pistol. Dunno why. By all accounts it should be 'unsatisfying' with it's awful random recoil you have no control over but I enjoy it's plastic toy "pop pop pop!". Killing combine with it at the start of HL2 was always fun for me, but I guess a lot more of that has to do with the ragdolls and that awesome flatline sound whenever you kill one.

>>389200728
Every hl2 gun besides shotgun, revolver and crossbow felt like shit. Same goes for original hl too.

>>389206987
>it's
wow fucked that up twice i need to sleep

>>389204831
this

The SMG from HL1

>>389200728
Anything from Borderlands 2

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>>389200728
How do you go from first game's magnum to this piece of shit?

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The regular shotgun from Nu-DOOM
It sounded like shit, and you couldn't kill anything tougher than an imp, and even then you had to basically be in fellatio range to get the 1HK

Once you get the upgrade for the Super Shotgun that makes shots only spend one ammo rather than two, there is literally no reason to ever pull out the Combat Shotgun.

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>>389207858
i unno, probably by making the Halo 2 magnum?

>>389207858
>>389205483
>>389205559
>>389205326
I actually don't think CE's pistol is that satisfying either. It's a good gun, but it doesn't feel good to shoot with.

>>389208076
The H2 magnum feels nicer then the H3 one though, and at least can be useful for mopping up stuff with headshots

>>389202805
The .22 hand gun is probably the worst gun I've ever used in a game. It looks and feels awful

>>389208002
After I got the super I never switched off of it the rest of the game, so much fun. Regular shotgun felt nice but is weak and feels it when you run into other demons.

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>>389208002
Also, this thing for KF1 and KF2. What an unsatisfying piece of shit

The best part of hitting 5 into a perk in KF1 was no longer having to hear the terrible 'pap pap pap' of the 9mm starting pistol. Somehow the damage, sound and feel of it is even worse in KF2, but at least that has duel wielding and starting weapons from the get-go to compensate.

>zwooosh
>pap pap pap pap pap
>aaahhhhuuuuuu-beeeeeee
>zwuoosh

>>389200728
>that realod
[clk clock CLACK]

>>389200865
It fires as well can pull the trigger and metro cops go down easily from them if you pop them in the head. But it sounds like popcorn.

>>389208507
HL2 does not have headshots. Only the multiplayer does.

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What a mess of a gun. Also, uzi in black ops 1. It felt like a bb gun.

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>>389200728

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>>389208675
I'll one up you friend

>>389204578
Don't feel bad Gunz was fun

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>>389205702
I love HL2, but the HL2 shotgun is not even half the weapon that the super shotgun is.

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>>389208002
>get the mortar shot for this
>never press M1 ever again
why did they make the fucking secondary shot so good in comparison to the actual main cannon of the gun

>>389208675
I loved the F2000 even though it wasn't good. It felt like an SMG damage and fire rate-wise with the move speed of an AR, but you could put a grenade launcher on it.

>>389200865
I'm with ya. Fuck you guys, the "paf paf paf" noise is awesome.

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All of the semi-auto shotguns in Siege right now. The Saiga 12 is especially bad though.

>>389208002
It puts out decent burst damage once you fully upgraded the 3 round burst mode.

>>389206983
Nah Half Life 2's weapons are just shit.

>>389205702
dat shit taste

>>389200728
not to mention that doesn't even look like a shotgun. jesus christ, and to think people praise this game in any way. just goes to show you.

>>389200865
Is it weird that i hate the revolver but love the pistol?

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how about satisfying weapons?
>FEAR smg
>most common weapon in the game
>most fun to use
>plenty of ammo
seriously, spraying the SMG was the funnest shit, i always use it even if there are better weapons damage-wise

>>389210867
Speaking of fear, the nailguns awful
>PMF
>barely does anything
>takes about 4 or 5 shots to someones head before they get nailed to a wall

>>389210839
Revolver sucks if you're doing bodyshots, and headshots are a pain because the Combine move at 200 degrees fahrenheit, travelling at the speed of light, making a supersonic man of out you. Can't stop them. But anyway, I agree.

>>389205559
this whole thread is b8 newfriend.

>>389210046
>shotgun and pulse rifle are shit

you haven't ever blown a combine soldier across the room with the shotgun alt-fire or cleared out a room with antlions and a pulse rifle mag, have you?

>>389210839

Revolver is the most satisfying weapon to kill weaker enemies with. It has a solid kick and sound and sends the victim flying into the nearest wall.

>>389210504
always ignored it and was so useless to me

>>389208650
Are you fucking with me?

>>389202273
Clean-looking sure, tacticool however fits the default SMG's equally.

A little bit of Fallout-esque weathering would do it just fine.

>>389210867
Half Life 1's shotgun is one of the most satisfying guns in any game I've played.

>>389208002
Grenade launcher is the dedicated imp/shield zombie killer

>>389211010
Kek. I think you need some sleep, my friend

>>389200728
Hl2's pistol would be far more satisfying if he didn't hold it like a limp wristed retard, and not was animated by a 9 year old spastic.

>>389200908
>HL2 pistol sounds shit
Da fuck you going on about? The pistol in HL2 sounds fine. It sounds like a real 9mm, in an outdoor range, 500 meters away behind the shooter.

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>left 4 dead pistols

>>389213054
The HL2 pistol is way too powerful to be a 9mm

the pistol in GTA 3

>>389202571
ADS in BF1 is a mountain of combined shit from every single living organism

>>389200728
The entire fucking arsenal, minus the revolver, feels like shit

>>389213171
That's why 2 is great, I've got an M9 mod for the Glock and a Silverballer for the Desert Eagle. Pretty satisfying to shoot shit in that game once you've modded sounds and skins. I particularly like the BF3 gun sound mod.

hl weapons>hl2 weapons

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>>389201135
Or this piece of shit from TFC
>classes that had the SSG also had this

>>389213392
>silverballer
good taste

>>389213392
I recommend the MP-40 to replace the Uzi

>>389210973

Enemies heads spazzing out when hit with the final nail was pretty good though.

>>389213492
>that crobar sound when hitting anything
TONG TONG TONG TONG

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Just kidding, it's actually pretty alright

>>389210973
Maybe you should try aiming.

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>>389200728
The only thing I don't like about the pistol is how Gordon holds it with one hand. What could he doing with his other hand when he's not reloading?

>>389214510
Trying to pull the safety pin of a grenade in his pocket.

>>389205326
>>389208105
>tfw only played first halo on pc and loved it
>haven't played in years
>recently at friend's place playing vidya
>he got halo 3 or 4 (dunno which one) on xbox 360
>decide to play a couple matches
>run around with pistol, friends making fun of me for not finding a better weapon
>proceed to headshot the fuck outta them while they can't even land a hit on me with their shitty weapon spread and bad aim
good to see that the pistol kept being best gun apparently

>>389214709
All the pistols in Halo games after Halo 1 were trash. The pistol in Halo 3/Reach was servicable but still served the same purpose as the battle rifle/marksman rifle but performed worse in every way. You were probably playing one of the shitty post-Bungie games or Halo 1 if the pistol was good.

>>389214510
doing a cowboy stance, clearly

Every fucking gun in BL2 except maybe the jakobs sniper and vladaf AR, which is bullshit since they were perfect in the first game

>>389215414
I never played BL2 but BL1 did not have a single satisfying gun

>>389211104
pulse rifle is better than the smg but its power is gimped by the lack of extra ammo. the shotgun sounds and feels worse than hl1 except the ragdoll physics.

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doesn't matter what it's made of this is the worst feeling piece of shit in history and you know this to be true.

all enchantments aside, knocking back anything just flailing this piece of shit not knowing how much damage you're doing and not knowing how many swings it's going to take or how long it's going to take to kill things like it disrupting your mining run makes it the most unsatisfying, annoying weapons to use in a video game ever.

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>>389210973

>>389210504
UT2003 is the only one I played and even that one's biorifle fucking sucked, as a kid I always called it the "snotgun"

Link Rifle was always super underwhelming too until I figured out that I was using it wrong.

>>389216163
Minecraft's entire combat system is hot garbage, so any one weapon being shitty isn't really noteworthy.

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probably alone here but i found the DooM 4 super shotgun to be really underwhelming.

I hate the wimpy fucking reload where you just slap it open and daintily put some bullets in real quick with the other hand. They did it just right with Wolfenstein:TNO's double barrel shotgun; you have to break it open and SLAM those shells in.


Honourable mention goes to every other weapon in half life 2 beyond the shotgun and gravity gun

*and magnum

The combine rifle and crossbow are barely passable

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They sound like toys and they feel like them too.

>>389210504
ya until u unload a full blast onto the ground and some dipship runs over it and explodes.

>>389217473
It's a side effect of SS2 being so cartoony.

>>389216846
striking something with an arrow always feels good to me. a bow and arrow isn't that bad especially if it's enchanted. striking anything with a sword feels like shit no matter what. i can be anything from normal combat to hitbox-glitching around a corner or under head-high blocks to kill an enemy, it always feels cheap and unrewarding. multiply that effect when you just can't kill a creeper with a sword in any circumstance if you have any sort of latency to the server whatsoever.

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>>389205326

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>>389210867

>Game in which pistol and shotgun are best weapons.

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Before you could dual wield them, using the Covenant Plasma Rifle always felt underwhelming and lame.

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>>389208926
>E3M1
>super shotgun
>that HUD
What port is this?

>>389206983

The shotgun sounds like shit and any weapon that isn't the pistol and shotgun are massive gimped by low ammo.

The game badly wanted you to use the gravity gun and it showed.

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Whatever's not this thing.

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I dare you to find anyone who liked the Halo 3 assault rifle.

>>389201232
Holy fuck, this.

I loved how satisfying the assault rifles were in gta4 though

>>389202547
I think most weapons in cs are unsatisfying

>>389210504
I've only ever seen UT pros use the Bio Rifle to play 4D rocket chess where they shoot that shit where someone is going to run to in the next five seconds. In UT time, that means they basically predicted them six years in advance.

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I've been playing HL after a long time, is the MP5 supposed to be a peashooter or does hard make everything a bullet sponge?

>>389200728
Everything from the half-life series is pretty bad.

>>389207649
Idk, using an elemental sand hawk with a bee shield sounds and feels pretty orgasmic

>>389208351
I don't hate it, would be nice to sell it though

>>389202571
what the fuck are you talking about, the autoloading 8 and selbstlader 1906 are insanely satisfying and have great TTKs and accuracy

>>389208817
Pm9 was very usable unlike the Uzi
Literally didn't have to aim down sights with the pm9 and has the fastest fire rate in the game

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>>389210867
Gentlemen, BEHOLD
The most satisfying shotgun, grenade launcher, nay, weapon in the history of vidya

>>389210504
>>389211285
>>389216668

Y'all niggas dumb as fuck. Fully charged Alt-Fire is satisfying as fuck to land.

>>389207649
This. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking in making all bullets projectiles instead of hitscan.

>>389215414
With BL it's just the gunplay in general that's not very good. Combat doesn't feel good either.

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>>389219503
>Jump Dodging past someone and shredding them with the Flak Cannon so that you fly through their dismembered carcass and gibs

>>389202935

San Andreas has the worst gun sound effects I can think of. They sound intentionally bad.

>>389219643
The best part about the flak cannon is that at a certain range it doesn't matter which mode of fire you use because you'll just one shot them regardless.

>>389200728
>PAP PAP PAP PAP
>Smooth ass consecutive headshots on metrocops
>When you get the 357 for the first time and blow one of them away with one shot
>Cum
>Firing the SMG's grenade

Why are HL2 weapons so good?

>>389219503
This. Landing meat shots with the flak cannon is borderline orgasmic.

>>389210504
>>389211285
>>389216668
>spot the casuals
The bio-rifle is top-tier pleb filter.

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>>389205326
>>389208105
how to tell babies from men.

if you HELD the fire button, it would have innaccuracy. if you TAPPED fire, it was pixel perfect across the largest maps. this was LITERALLY a 3 shot kill no matter WHERE you were if you didnt suck massive black dicks

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Pop....pop....pop

>>389213171
A lot of the Tier 1 weapons in L4D are meh

>>389216668
>Link Rifle was always super underwhelming too until I figured out that I was using it wrong.
I thought the Link Rifle was trash until I watched a UT match on youtube and realized I was using the wrong firing mode. Then I started melting fucking faces.

I think the Bio Rifle's problem isn't that it's bad, it's just compared against really fucking good weapons or weapons with ultra high skill ceilings.

>>389203231
I liked the HL2 weapons because the sound was a lot cleaner. HL1's sfx suffered from major clipping distortion and murky 22kHz freq. response.

>>389219763
It's primarily the 2nd fire mode, if there is one, that is the most satistfying part.
>1-2 combo combine with the shotgun's 2nd fire mode
>ejaculate upon hearing that sweet, sweet flatline noise

>>389203231
>that floaty, trashcan-sounding "assault rife"
>orgasmic

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>>389200728
Most unsatisfying shotgun in vidya history.

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Honestly one of the most satisfying weapons ever. Sprays shit everywhere, kills everything and the screams/metallic screech is oh so evil sounding.

>>389218667
I barely used the gravity gun when i last played and I never ran outta bullets. Git gud. HL2's weapon diversity enforced through low ammo caps makes for fun management and encourages creative thinking. They should've given less bullets if anything.

>>389220596
All the first tier weapons in RAGE felt unsatisfying once the power suits started teleporting in to fight you. Still, for all the engine's faults, it has some of the slickest animation in vidya.

>>389201708
That fancy lad pinky. I need this mod!

>>389204831
Fucking Klobb!

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>>389200728
This piece of shit from jk2 only worked at close range. I love that game, and I enjoyed the fps bits, but they could have improved it.

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This thing is trash.

>>389221607
Get pooped on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQwbWxyIM0Q

>>389221690
It's not worth taking up that much space when you get maybe 30 ammo per playthrough. The explosion radius is tiny even though it looks big. You're best of goofing around with grenade trickshots if you want to mess around with explosions.

>>389221690
>>389221813
>buy it first playthrough
>never use it

didnt get it on prof mode either

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>most satisfying weapons in vidya

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>>389200728
>he shotgun from hl2 doesn't feel very good either

Which is a fucking tragedy due to the fact that the HL2 BETA shotgun was one of the best sounding shotguns ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7woRcoSiqSk

^ Skip to 1:52

>>389219161
Yes to both

>>389218532
>filename isn't 'bird looking at its own reflection'

>>389200865
i like how tight it felt when you shot. the sound it makes is real clear too. very clean weapon overall

>>389216387
I'd still say it's underpowered. The 3 round burst AUG rifle killed much faster for some reason, they should have rebalanced the two guns and made it so the nail gun shot slower and had less shots, but did much more damage.

Also FEAR really needed to let you find more guns earlier on, you like only get the lazer and cannon guns near the end of the game.

>>389200728

>Tfw really liked the hl2 shotgun

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10mm in fallout 3 felt like I was firing a bb gun

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>>389205326

>>389208002
Grenade shot is really nice

>>389203003
>he doesn't mod in purple laser sniper rifles

>>389207649
that game needs it "single player" tag removed on steam, it wasn't balanced for that whatsoever.

>>389221928
>Replaying HL2
>some anons tell me to never use the starting pistol and SMG unless I have to
>switch between the shotgun, the revolver, the crossbow, and the combine rilfe whenever low on the other guns
>enjoy the game much more because of this

Shit's neat, and the shotgun in HL2 is actually really solid. It has solid range and can kill heavy combine soldiers at a good range with 2 shits to their upper chest area. The only awkward thing with it is the right click can sometimes be super hard to kill with.

>>389221813
The game will never drop ammo for the weapon unless you have less than 8 mines stored or something like that, the best way to get more ammo is to use the weapon.

>>389218838
I don't understand how they made the Halo 1 AR look and sound worse while performing better. It looks so stubby, and sounds like rice on a tin roof.

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>>389220137
The Tier 2 weapons just feel so much better

>>389220596
I finished playing it through today. It's weirdly inaccurate even in close range, can't put my finger on why, perhaps the spread is too tight or too loose.

But by the end you should be mass manufacturing pop rockets for it anyway.

>>389210504
did they nerf it's ranger after the original unreal? I remember using it to absolutely fuck things up, but it's damage to yourself sucked, though besides the auto mag/minigun every weapons could harm yourself.

>>389201232
>shoot a cop
>flinches for a sec and goes right back to shooting
>no wound or reaction to injury

>>389219161
if your playing hard then dont
its unironically one of the worst difficulty settings ever in a video game and makes the guns feel really bad because of how tanky enemies are

>>389222946
>what the fuck bullshit they should code AI to feel pain

>>389223107
The mechanics were better in RDR and GTAIV. Hell even in Vice City you could blow someone's head off.

>>389223107
Doom was able to do it in 1993.

>>389222023
fuck i cant unsee

Halo 2 Magnum was awesome. Especially dual wielded. It was loud and fast.

Halo 3 magnum was a weird shitty compromise.

>>389218532
Dude what, the Halo CE PR was actually really strong and had good accuracy and range compared to it in every other game, I'd say it was just as good or even a bit better than the AR since it could shoot farther. Not sure what you're talking about.

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>>389221761
that whole game was the most unsatisfying thing ever made

everything is just fucking awful except the axe, because it's a fucking big axe

>>389201042
>Thinking a gun is a DMR because it fires in Semi Auto.

>>389218838
me
I'd always look for situations where it was effective, sometimes in those BTB gametypes where you spawn with a BR and AR I'd use the AR when I could even if it was objectively worse. It was the little weapon that could.

And I loved using it in zombies gametypes, or against any multiplayer enemies that had no shield. Mowing into other players who had no shield to protect them always felt really good.

>>389203561

AHHHHHHHH THIS

HOLY FUCK I FORGOT ABOUT THIS GAME FOR LIKE 10 YEARS

>>389222635
Isn't this the only reason people think the gun is bad? I really should do another RE4 playthrough and use the thing.

>>389222128

Agreed, I felt like nailgun should have been 1hk on headshot.

>>389220596

most dissappointing gunplay in vidya, except for that boomerang thing

>>389203561
I'm not sure which was worse; single SMG or single pistol.

/v/ GunZ server when?

>>389223859
The Wingstick was awesome though, especially when you upgraded it.

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>>389201232
The pump shotgun and the explosives are the only ones that do it for me. Everything else feels pretty much the same

>>389220596
I haven't played Rage but I feel like I can beat it with this piece of shit

>>389223530
I'm surprised they managed to even make the fist weapons feel terrible, considering those are usually my favorite in DMC games

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>>389210504

this piece of underpowered shit

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>>389224260
forgot pic

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>>389223998
Whoops, that was pre-release shotgun, this is the PoS

>>389205326
shit was op what the fuck?
you could literally snipe people with it

>>389224350
I love that thing, it honestly feels like one of the best weapons to kill small zeds and its good for healing while only taking up 3 weight

>>389202935
I don't get why they just didn't give the SWAT teams MP5's like in that one mission

>>389213183
>too powerful
dude
also it's just an USP, it's definitely 9mm

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Her Blackhawk is okay, but the Deagle feels like a fucking pea shooter and can only hit grounded opponents so it feels pretty shit.

>>389207076
>crossbow not feeling like shit in HL1

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The mining laser in Metal Arms

Who am I kidding, no one here has played that game.

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>>389200728

>>389208002
Combat shotgun is only for the grenade anon.

>>389224628
nigger thats one of those "everyone played, nobody discusses" games

>>389224510
if I had to guess, I'd say they didn't want to give players a "free" MP5 from the start of the game, as if power balance matters in the game
and yeah I know there's high powered weapon pickups all over the games, but strategy guides were hot sellers back in those days anon, and they pointed out all the pickups I'm sure.

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>>389224628
My robo nigga
Sequel never. Let us cry together.

>>389200728
I actually like the pistol, it doesn't sound very punchy but the weapon itself isn't very punchy. It's great for cleaning up weak enemies and is surprisingly accurate if you take time between shots. The shotgun could definitely use a less goofy sound though. The smg feels kinda shitty compared to the HL1 one but I'll take the HL2 smg's nade launcher over it any day.

>>389206121
The combine in the game are human soldiers that have undergone some surgical modifications. They're not alien troops.

>>389224505
I would start using it if it didn't deal damage lower than the pistol or at least had a good rate of fire to compensate. It also doesn't do anything different healing wise compared to the medic pistol either.

>>389223998
You can, the Rage shotgun is really powerful if you actually hit someone, everything goes down in 1-3 hits unless they're a bruiser. Then you've got pop rockets.

>get hit in HL2
>your aim jumps up
>spray an entire mag into a combine soldier
>doesn't flinch

this is honestly the only thing that makes HL2 weapons seem shit

>>389213049
Well, he's a scientist you know, not a soldier.

>>389224843
>while still being familiar and ergonomic enough for human use
Reading comprehension. I'm just suggesting that the USP and MP7 may look similar, but probably aren't interchangeable with the real firearm.

No pistol will ever measure up to the ODST pistol.

>>389213380
what's a shotgun
what's a crossbow
what's a pulse rifle

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Anything that wasn't this in RS

>>389224925
Then he would hold it in two hands because he's afraid of the recoil flinging it out of his hand.

>>389218838
The vast majority of my kills in lone wolf were with the AR. I don't get why people shit on it. It's a bullet hose.

>>389224708

Yeah well if everyone played it where's the sequel????

>>389224717

Fucking Blizzard. I wish they'd just sell the IP to someone that wants to do something with it.

>>389224987
Well, Crossbow really can't be improved, but Pulse Rifle lacks the 'oomph'. It may do damage but it still sounds and handles like a peashooter

>>389202710
>silver slide

mono color match is the way to go.

>>389224896
>shoot someone with shotgun
>they dont stumble
>shooting them in a specific limb doesnt make it fly off nor does it show any form of mutilation
>no proper bullet wound based on clothing or bullet size
>no shrapnel pieces stuck in body after a frag blows up
>grenades deals 1 damage unless if you stand directly on them
>blood spills into nowhere
>generic blood puff
>specific weapons can only cause gore effects
Why are people too lazy to make proper response I will never know. Fuck AAA games.
however, t h e r e a r e i s s u e s

>>389219161
Play on normal.

>>389220596
The D44M shotgun is pretty close.
It's like they intentionally gimped the primary fire on the weapons to get you to grind for the mods.

>>389224896
What gun, the SMG? The AR fucks up regular soldiers pretty easily.

>>389219161
The MP5 is fucking garbage. Do not use M1 for anything other than hosing down zombies and headcrabs at point blank. In all other situations it is only useful as a grenade launcher.

>>389221926
God yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3MP0z2_IyE

>>389219643
>Jump down stairway
>Turn 90 degrees in anticipation
>time shot perfectly
>Godlike

>>389220626
Like quakes shotgun and needle gun had a demonic child. Love it.

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>>389223020
>>389225323
Didn't Valve intend on there not being difficulty modes only for Sierra to force their addition?

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I'm just posting this as a template but I really don't like any "plasma" based weapons in any games. Some laser weaponry can be alright but shooting balls of plasma that shit just never satisfied me. Halo, Fallout, even X-Com (I only choose them because they're powerful) otherwise I'll always pick standard munitions.

However the only game that does have a nice feeling plasma weapon is Dead Space but the plasma cutter is just a futuristic saw blade gun so I don't think it really counts.

>>389223020
>>389225323
>>389225671
>I always played hard mode
fuck

>>389219503
my nigga

>>389225796
yea the guns feel really had on hard
part of why i like hl2's guns more is that hard doesnt make all enemies bulletsponges on it

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>200+ posts
>Still no this piece of shit

>>389225679
Most of them tend to be relatively slow projectile weapons, which leaves a big disconnect between the act of firing and the actual hitting. Even when they do hit, there's rarely a result as satisfying as the wait dictates. And that makes the action of firing the weapon enjoyable.

>>389222275
How does the actual BB gun in the game compare?

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>>389223998
God I fucking hated that thing but still ended up using it a lot

It felt like it had the pellet spread of a fucking medieval hand cannon, I'd just try to run right up to enemies and blast them point blank

>>389224896
Don't use the SMG, everything else deals with the Combine pretty quickly.

>>389225874
Aye, very true. Thus why the plasma cutter doesn't fall into plasma weaponry for me because it's just an insta-amputation device.

>>389225224
L4D2 did a great job at this, more and more modern shooters have stumbling/wounded animations but the lack of actual gore is shocking, seems like the standard is to have all enemies ragdoll upon death.

>>389225865
>low damage
>low rate of fire
>slow moving projectile

what the fuck were they thinking

>>389213171

Those things are fucking great if you have 2. Hell, I find them more effective then most Tier 1.

>>389225951
It's why something like the HL2 crossbow in >>389225410 feels good to use, too. There's the delay of the projectile weapon, but there's a satisfying as fuck sound when you fire it and your victim goes fucking flying when it makes contact.

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>>389225849
Yeah instead it just makes the enemies omniscient aimbots.

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>hl1 weapons feel pretty good
>black mesa weapons feel and look shit
goddamnit
then someone was making this sexy mod and then it vanished, fuck

>>389219161
Wait... I'm playing Half Life right now and I only have the M4. Where do you get the MP5?

>>389226093
You need to turn off the new models.

>>389225397
It kills them faster, but I'm talking about wound animation or something. They just run straight at you firing their SMGs or whatever and don't even flinch.

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>>389226093
>playing with HD models on

>>389226093
You're probably playing HL source. They changed the weapon and character models.

>>389225970
Left 4 dead 2 did great gore but then they fucked it up by not giving it to the special infected. I'd love to shoot a boomer in the stomach and see bile mixed blood spill out like an oil drum with a hole. Another thing is the limited goring per zombie and blood decals disappearing. Check this dude out, he knows what he's talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ_bVgW-TlM

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fucking Reach

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>>389225865
>>389226001
Infinite ammo, though!

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>>389226143
>>389226160
shit

how

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Hello, I'm locked at MR 9, and I'm a status beam weapon with a terrible gimmick.
Please choose me over the superior in every manner status secondary that is unlocked at MR 6, the Zakti.

Any gun from Borderlands 2.

>>389226238
The options menu you baka.

>>389226238
go to options, then go to video

>>389225970
personally I hated the gunplay in L4D1/2, though.
while the zeds stumble over when (non-fatally) shot or get dismembered, they feel too damn weak. like I'm shooting through paper mache.
then the guns, from the first person perspective and sound design, lack a good gun feel.

>>389224505
Less damage than the pistol, while having the same dart amount and recharge with 3x the weight, and fully auto means you run out of ammo constantly due to shitty accuracy. There is literally no reason to use it, just save for the shotty or AR instead, or pistol if it's off-perk.

>>389226093
>playing with the Cinematic Mod of 2001

>>389208002
I felt like the only one who thinks nu-DOOM shotgun and super shotgun feel like wet noodles. they have no kickback or oomph when fire them.

>>389224896
>Trained, augmented soldier
>Random physicist
Hmm...

>>389225671
>>389225796
Yeah, I always played on hard too, but never really noticed the guns being all that bad. Granted the SMG was always a pea shooter, and the shotgun and revolver were damn near needed for the Grunts you go up against.

Also why the FUCK was OpFor so difficult on hard? It's like 100 times more difficult than Half Life 1.

>>389225865
>>389226237
Yeah, it's pretty much Quake 2's equivalent of a melee weapon. It's not good but you damn near never have to use it after the starting section.

>>389226332
Vavle never really does good gunfeel. I love HL1, 2, L4D and CS but there's no denying that the make mediocre feeling weapons.

The fact that the Combine rifle in HL2 has a spread effect similar to the SMG is a cruel joke.

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>>389226091
screenshot of their latest progress i think
last i heard they were trying to get them rigged on retail's default animations

>>389226434
I'm just saying it's unsatisfying, not that it doesn't make any sense.
But let's be honest, Gordon with an HEV suit isn't just some random physicist.

>>389226091
What? I just replayed Black Mesa and the guns were satisfying as fuck. Great sounds and animations.

>>389226520
What's with the rectangles?

>>389208351
>What an unsatisfying piece of shit

I think that's the point.

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>>389226619
they were showing a bug to the black mesa dev team about cascaded shadows iirc

>>389226409
The normal shotgun sucks ass, but the super one does crazy damage and gibs enemies hard as hell. Nothing in DOOM really has recoil, but a lot of the guns do insane damage.

>>389226530
Yeah, you gotta use the shotgun, revolver, crossbow, or the Combine rifle against the bigger Combine soldiers. All of them can either 1 shot them or kill them stupidly fast. The SMG and the starting pistol are balanced around the early game, and they feel like total trash to use in the late game.

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>>389226520
This was posted on friday:
>Sorry to disappoint, but the pack isn't ready yet. Game Zombie is working to get the models properly rigged onto the default animations. He only has the crossbow left to finish at this point, and a few other minor things to add for flavor.
I can't say when it will be ready, but I can show off some more of the UI elements:

>>389226695
>cascaded
PREPARE

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>>389226695
more screenies of it because why not
note: the arms seen in this picture are not the final ones, just placeholders for rigging

>>389202805
>.44 magnum
>Riot shotty
>ANTI MATERIEL RIFLE
>Lever Shotty
>Battle Rifle
No clue what you are on about

>>389202805
>Lever shotgun
>Bad
Do you hate fun, my friend?

>>389226595
>MP5
>No HK slap
>Great animations
Ha.

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>>389226828
so soon then
that's nice
finally one of juniez's mods are going to actually get released

>>389226695
Why is Black Mesa so fucking unoptimized?
I have stutters almost all the time, and when I turn on the flashlight it straight up freezes for half a second.

>>389226928
He's b8ing, you idiot.

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>>389227078
welcome to the source engine

>>389208148
>A gun that shoots .22 feels like trash
Sounds right to me.

>>389201708
lmao HK trash

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>People bitching about the pistol
>Not the fucking crowbar
I feel like I'm tapping people to death with it. If I'm going to be swinging a fucking crowbar at someone to death I'd like actually swing the thing

>>389213492
OpFor weapons > HL weapons > HL2 Weapons

Speaking of, why didnt Ep 1 or 2 introduce new guns? Seems like a missed opportunity.

>>389223998
Rage is fun, but the level design sucks ass, and if your eye is drawn to graphical errors, then do not play this. Do no do not do not. You can have the most beastly rig on the planet and there will still be shit popping up in front of you as you turn to look at it. In a single room, fully loaded, you can look at something, 180 away, then turn back to it, and then watch whatever you were looking at pop back into existence/full resolution.

Its awful.

>>389227135
This. I have microstutter even in HL2.

>>389226091
That's your nostalgia "feeling pretty good".
Go back and play HL1 again, the weapons are ass.
>shotgun with no kick whatsoever
>assault rifle that sounds like a rattling trashcan and has the most awkward attempt at "recoil" in first person shooter history
>grenades that behave like hollowed-out wiffle balls
>pistol is better than the HL2 one but still pretty ass
The BMS guns (along with the non-pistol HL2 weaponry) aren't anywhere near as good as they could be but are still an improvement.

>>389227124
You can never be so sure about that around here, senpai.

>>389227169
Still better than HL1 crowbar animation when you hit something.

>>389227135
>Implying
I made it through Half-Life 2, Portal and a whole bunch of Gmod/TF2/CS:S online on a low-end Pentium 4 and a goddamn FX 5200. It had to run in DX8 mode but it worked.

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>>389227228
i just played hl1
it feels a lot better and more concise to control than black mesa

>>389227281
Oh my god, this. Is Gordon pecking shit to death? For Vehk's sake.

>>389227169
Valve at least had the courtesy to make it not cover the screen, which is more than can be said for TF2's melees.

>>389227321
2004 hl2 was pretty optimized for its time
but nowadays, anything on source is not optimized well for newer machines
at its heart it is a single-core engine, bastardized to work with multicore machines

>>389225896
BB Gun does like ~3 damage

>>389227321
That's cool and all, but buy a 1080Ti and you'll still have stutter when you turn everything to Ultra in HL2 and episodes.

>>389227348
There's something weird about seeing the '98 polygon restricted design modifications on a fairly modern looking model.
>>389227410
I did it post the 2007 update. And I don't think I've ever had any issues with Source games on either of my properly specced PCs. Not my 2010 build, not my 2015 build.
Black Mesa is pretty terribly optimized, though it's not alone there.

>>389218838

Me mother fucker

>>389227474
Never had any issues with my 970 or my 465, both of which are massive overkill for Source.

>>389201232
>Doing some "Kill gangstas and grab their coke/meth" mission in GTA Online
>The gangsters tank like terminators, pretty much run up to my face guns blazing and kill me in single hit

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>>389227495
it's pretty amazing how accurate the modeler got to the original guns

>>389204831
They were just being realistic, the Skorpion shoots fucking .32 ACP.

>>389227553
>i5 6400
>RX 480 8GB
>max out HL2 settings
>get stutter at random times

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>>389227617

>>389204831
It's fucking TERRIBLE against players because you have i-frames after every shot, incentivizing slow but big damage over quick but small damage.
Do the enemies in solo have i-frames?

>>389222128
>The 3 round burst AUG rifle killed much faster for some reason
It's Tavor, and the reason it kills so fast is because it's the game's sniper rifle (one of them, anyway) and you barely get any ammo for it. You consistently get Penetrator ammo, though.

>>389227617
>>389227706
I love the total lack of a charging handle.
>>389227645
Only Source game I've ever had any real issues with other than Black Mesa is CS:GO.

>>389227732
I don't think so, but they can shoot through each other. So if you're going up against a group, the guys in front stand up and flinch, acting like human armor for the guys behind.

SUX

>>389227839
because they're both running on newer versions of the engine