Name ONE game with a better magic system than Skyrim.

FF7

Your right. Skyrim is literally perfect. Its time to give up on gaming after you play it. Its all there really is.

>>389190026
Every game?
Fucking BioShock does it better.

Anything

>>389190026
i wanna fuck that cat

Lichdom Battlemage

>>389190026
it's a realistic magic system, in that you might as well be sneezing in the general direction of enemies for the first 55 hours of your playthrough.

>>389190026
arx fatalis is one of the best magic system i know of. It's hard to cast a spell, require concentration and a bit of knowledge (you have to draw the runes), but the effects are very powerful.

Dark Messiah you fucking faggots

>>389190026
>blasting fire from your hands
>4 dps
>smack with sword
>200 dps
wow such good magic

>>389190026
gay webm

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Magicka

>>389190026
Morrowind by a landslide.

Skyrim scums can't even fly lmao.

>>389190026
Morrowind.

>>389190026
God, I love that art style and animation so much. Who did that?

>>389190026
Really ? In Skyrim the force of a double-handed magical flamethrower has about the same power as a series of powerful sneezes. Fucking Diablo 2 had better more realistic magic than Skyrim, remember those frozen orbs ? The divine hammers ? The huge fireballs, bone spears, hydras... They actually had a weight to them and did damage. Also, no necromancy in Skyrim without mods.

>>389190026
dragons dogma

>>389190026
Magicka.

Magicka Wizard wars is the best highest skill ceiling moba that will never come to the big stage due to the small audience.

>>389190252
I want to fuck rainbow dash

>>389190924
don't ever fucking reply to me again unless you have something to contribute to the conversation.

>>389190026
even fucking dark souls magic feels better then skyrims

>>389190225
Yep, even the power of bees was pretty awesome compared to the tiny ugly fireballs you shoot in Skyrim. Though Skyrim had lightning spells, which are really cool.

>>389190149
You're
It's
It's

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>>389190965
you forgot the picture

>>389190853
>spam rock: the game

>>389190965

i'm surprised. considering both you and him want to fuck animals, i would have guessed you'd both be at each other's dicks already.

>>389190026
lmao even Lost Magic had a better magic system. draw your rune combination is always the most rewarding.

>>389190839
>more realistic magic

>>389190026
final fantasy 8

Fable 3

>>389191189
>implying

fuck off you literal pedophile

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>>389190839
>realistic magic

>>389190303
I was actually interested in this game pre-release, but I've heard it's like a more boring Skyrim.

>>389191104
thanks

>>389191189
i'll be at YOUR dick faggot don't ever post in OP's thread again

>>389191142
>throws rock at rock+barrier
>tries to charge up another rock but can't because he's frozen or they push the rock away back into them
Everything has a counter in that game. Sure you can play braindead with a rock (casual filter), or you can actually use your head and lock them out of their options while they are holding RMB trying to aim a rock at a wall or armor.

>>389191471
>he doesn't know

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>>389190839
>realistic magic

>>389190026
Oblivion, for one.

Any of the other Elder Scrolls games.

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>>389190839
>more realistic magic
>realistic
>magic

>>389190585
magicka has a nice system, but... impractical. but it's ok since that's what makes the game fun

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>>389190026
Dragon's Dogman has THE best and most satisfying spellcasting in any video game ever and this is an irrefutable truth

>>389190026
Soul Sacrifice Delta, it's the only game where you can quite literally cast fist and there's not one, but two entire magics school about casting fist.

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>>389190839

>realistic magic

>>389191142
Personally, my favourite is steam electric beam.

>>389192269
>>389191852
>>389191647
>they don't know

>>389192407
six more years and I can become an apprentice in the magical arts

>>389192269
>Shooting fucking lightning at someone should deal a very low amount of damage when compared to just slapping them with a sword and not do increased damage against people in plate.
>People should be set completely on fire and not go into a panic because they are on fire.
>People in metal armor shouldn't be more vunerable against elemental based magic in general.
Face it Todd, your magic is shit.

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>>389190026

>>389190026
magika

>>389192159
Soul Sac was pretty great

>>389190026
hey, this guy got better at animation.

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I have yet to play a game where magic is actually fun on it's own and not just as a complement to melee.

Call me when someone figures out how to translate this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH4Xr6GIp4U

into gameplay and not just shooting projectiles from my hands.

>>389192042
Beat me to it it. Not gonna lie, I find Skyrim with the right mods (not talking about waifu shit mods) legitimately fun. The magic system though, at least the vanilla version is boring as dirt though.

>>389195290
>how to translate this:
What part of it exactly?

>>389190839
>no necromancy in Skyrim without mods.

Wait, what? So you've never played the game, then?

>>389190026
Magic is underpowered as fuck in Skyrim, the hell are you smoking?

>>389196440
Conjuration is not necromancy.

>>389191081

Your a idiot

>>389190026
Skyrim had great magic, I can't wait to see how they improve on the scaling in Skyrim 2.

>>389196613
Except for the "reanimate corpse" family of spells in the conjuration school.

>>389191035
>compared to the tiny ugly fireballs you shoot in Skyrim
Dude the one thing Skyrim got right was fireballs were not your main destruction spell. You got a flamethrower.

>>389190149
I thought Skyrim was perfect at first until I get daedric armor, everything felt boring after that. Didn't even bother to finish the game

>>389190026
Baldurs Gate 2.

>>389195698
All of it. If i knew how to do it i would be doing it instead of posting about it.

That's my favorite scene of the whole trilogy. I always thought magic and wizards and all that in fantasy were lame but seen that for the first time in the movie theater blew me away. I guess what I'm asking is a way to translate the awe inspiring feeling of power and mysticism from that scene into a video game.

All he is doing is casting one shitty thunderbolt spell if you think about it, but in video games that would be a level 1 spell and the most boring shit ever.

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>>389190026
Dragon's Dogma
Dark Messiah
Magicka
Dark Souls 3
Witcher 1 2 and 3
Fable 1
XCOM
Every Star Wars game with jedis
Trine

>>389190026
Fuck you
>NPCs have large magicka pools and high-level mages also boast high HP. The player can't possibly attain both high magicka and HP at the same level.
>NPCs regen Magicka at an astonishingly high rate that is separate from the player's base regen rate, to the point that damage magicka regen poison is completely worthless. This allows them to quickly spam powerful spells
>NPCs magicka continues to regen even while it is being used by a ward or a spell that has been readied but not cast yet. The player has to not use magic for about half a second before regen resumes for them.
>NPC Mages can happily soak up anything you throw at them thanks to access to the strongest wards and the ability to instantly bring a new one up at full strength as soon as the player breaks it. The player suffers a harsher stagger when a ward breaks, and it takes a second or two for a player-cast ward to reach full strength.
>Mages can also heal themselves to full health as many times as they want, increasing the time it takes for a battle to end.
>Magic Resistance works differently from Armour Rating formulas, it does a simple calculation that negates straight damage from a spell and has a high cap, thereby gutting the strength of even powerful spells when they have near 100% resistance.
>By this point it is much faster to kill a mage using arrows or melee. Mage on mage combat is extremely drawn out and likely to become a stalemate.
And that's all mechanics that are fundamentally broken. I haven't even got into how lacking the spells are and how some of them are broken or useless

>>389197304
Alright.
If you want to cosplay as Gandalf or Saruman and fart thunder while looking ominous and shit just play Dragon's Dogma, if you want an actual in depth magic system play Soul Sacrifice Delta or Magicka.

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>>389196613

>>389190026
I would like a game with the spell-equipping system of Skyrim, but with spell-combining mechanics of Fable 3 and Magicka.

>>389196816
This. Plus there standing stone ability you can have easily 3-4 skelebros fighting for you

>>389197627
Soul Sacrifice Delta.

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>>389192407
>finally made it 5 months ago

>>389190026
>skyrim
>magic system
what? you just throw glowy shit from your hands where is this system?

>>389197492
>just play Dragon's Dogma

yeah no, Sorcerer literally puts me to sleep. You have to figure a way to make the gameplay also interesting and more than just standing there while a bar fills up. Also, even though DD put a lot more effort in effects to try and make magic look as powerful as it should be it still trivializes it, i mean you learn how to fucking summon meteors from a fucking innkeeper.

On a side note one small detail i really appreciate that i never see mentioned is that the regular thunder spell will summon the bolts of lighting and then a second or two later after it's done you hear the loud boom of the thunder clouds echo in the sky.

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>>389192407
>tfw i've forgone my applicability half a decade ago
>tfw it wasn't worth it in hindsight

I regret everything

>>389197330
> XCOM
... what?

>>389198245
>You have to figure a way to make the gameplay also interesting and more than just standing there while a bar fills up.
Wait, you like sorcerers standing there while they fill up their spell bars in movies, you ask to put that in gameplay and then you complain it's not what you want?
Make up your mind son.
>i mean you learn how to fucking summon meteors from a fucking innkeeper.
And? What do you want, wizards to be endangered species like pandas or some shit?
Play Soul Sacrifice then since it's all about a wizard genociding a world over and over and you're one of the last living humans who turns wizard to stop him.

>>389190026
literally any game ever. It is only westerners interested in poorly-made first-person trash with absolute garbage animations.
>b-but I love combat where the characters stand in place and I press right click to attack!
get some standards and pick up a real RPG next time

>>389191081
If you're the kind of person that confuses your with you're or their with they're I don't think we'll get along.

>>389198557
XCOM has better magic than Skyrim.

>>389197819
That was a fun game. Every spell even had some small lore tidbit.

>>389194289
whats the source for this? i actually like the animation

>>389197492
> While looking ominous
Haha no. As much as I like Dragon's Dogma the magic robes suck in terms of aesthetics, especially the goofy hoods with crowns on them.

>>389198396
Poor fool. I'll cast a magic missile in your honor.

>>389199037
>As much as I like Dragon's Dogma the magic robes suck in terms of aesthetics,
You can still go around in your Gandalf pajama if you want.

>>389190368
This. I wish ice spear was useful because it's a cool concept.

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>>389190026

Merlin from Gauntlet and Invoker from Dota.

Having to combine raw magic into a dozen different useful and power spells is what i always think about when playing a spellcaster. It uses concentration, experience and knowledge of what spell to use it what situation. At least to me it's more engaging than just pressing X to cast fireball over and over again.

>>389190839
>remember those frozen orbs ?
The best spell in the entire diablo 2. So fucking satisfying to use.

>>389195638
Skyrim's magic system even with mods is very bland compared to the combat mods out there. Ultimate Combat mixed with Vigor and Combat Evolved is pretty satisfying even if it's random debuffs: the mod. With magic mods it basically boils down to:

>overpowered magic spells that just one shot everything
>underpowered magic spells that were just added in for the sake of "b-but it was in the old games!"

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>>389199234

>>389199158
Not until after you beat the game

>>389192559
>Increased damage in plate
No, it should have auto aim and do slightly less. The plate is more conductive than the person and will conduct the electricity to ground better than them in most cases. Otherwise yea I get you.

>>389192407
Surely I'll get a pass for purity stolen. Becoming a wizard is all I ever wanted.

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>>389190026
Literally any D&D game.

>>389190026
Almost every game, same with melee combat. It's honestly a bit astounding The Elder Scrolls games do so well.

Each of the elemental types are just different flavoured special effects with numbers.

The only spells that actually add depth to the game are in illusion and conjuration.

>>389190026
Damn she is cute as fuck

Ace Attorney

It is better because you can perceive the witness's tes

>>389190026
Dragons Dogma, Dark Messiah, Fable... Morrowind.

There are a lot. Like Skyrim's magic is garbage.

>>389197437
This. If you play as a full mage on legendary, Orchendor, the boss at the end of Peryite's quest, is literally unkillable. He has 100% magic resist so spells do jack shit to him. He can also teleport away when he sustains too much damage and if that wasn't enough he will always heal himself back to 25% health if he falls under a certain threshold. The only way to kill him is to out DPS his healing and on magic characters that just can't happen, even if you're using summons.

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>>389199703

>>389190026

Dragons dogma puts skyrim to shame so bad it's not even a fucking contest. And I don't even like magic much in that game myself.

>>389200005
Why wouldn't you just skip him though? By pulling the lever behind the throne he dies instantly and you get 5x the exp (though no loot).

why would you into magic when you can stealth archer?

>>389198719
Why are you sperging out so much over this? What autism nerve did i pinch? Are you just trying to sound witty and failing miserably at it?

Movies are not the same as video games, how the fuck is this a hard concept to grasp? That scene would get fucking old too if he did it 50 times in the course of the movie.

>>389197078
The flamethrower spell only works for the first few levels and then becomes completely useless.

>>389197330
>Witcher
Witcher barely even has a magic system.

Dark Souls, any of the infinity engine RPGs, most CRPGs now that I think about it, even fucking Hollow Knight had better magic because it was actually viable

>>389190026
Dragon's Dogma

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>>389200251
>That scene would get fucking old too if he did it 50 times in the course of the movie.
Then why do you ask to put that stuff in a videogame knowing full well it would get old?
Again, go play Soul Sacrifice, there's something like 30+ schools of magic for a total of over 200 spells you can mix by yourself or with other players and you can do all kind of shit like altering weather, grow trees, fart thunder, create magic weapons, golems and shit.

>>389190026
https://youtu.be/OiRwhnhX-IE
Invitation is a pretty satisfying spell.

>>389200370
But it does. And it's better than Skyrim's.

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>>389190026
Why do some furries have to be so talented? Why do I want this cat to cast a spell on me?

>>389200227
Some people like to use magic as a stepping stone to stealth archer.

>>389200261
It worked for me.

Then again I played on Adept.

>>389190026
what's so great about it?

>>389199790
>on legendary
That's your problem.

>>389190435
Came to say this. Arx's magic system is THE DEFINITIVE best magic system in all of gaming.

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Reminder: Elemental mages are not real mages they are just glorified shaman

>>389200613
At least Skyrim lets me be a full mage who never has to use a weapon, and I can mod it so it remains effective all the way through.

>>389200082
What?

>>389200812
Even on Adept, the starting flamethrower spells become useless past level 15 or so.

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>>389198865
Fuck off sam

>>389199162
Please. I wish the early dot spells you got still had use as you leveled up. Hell the only good thing about the magic system wad your ability to break it harder than salvador breaks a dpuh through enchanting

>>389201058
>Be wizard
>Have a cleric friend
>He can't stop talking about how cool and powerful and awesome his god is
>He can't cast shit without his god
>Always bitch about druids and pagan gods and shit

How do we stop clerics from being huge fags, bros?

>>389201175
You didn't know? It's the "Canadian Approach". You learn about it in a book found in the dungeon.

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>>389190026
Two Worlds 2:
>Customize spells on the fly
>Dozens of different magic effects
>Literally thousands of spells that can be made
>Most spells feel totally unique

>>389199589
Uncle or stranger? Its story time /b/ros

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>>389201324
Someone needs to revive this series.

>>389190479
>blasting fire from your hands
>can run away as you do it, and leave the battle unscathed
>smack with your shitty sword
>end up taking a shit ton of damage in the process

Even bows are better than swords.

>>389190026
objectively oblivion

>>389201392

just send them into the crypts, let god sort em out. Besides, there is nothing wrong with druids or pagan gods. Cleric is just being an autist that can't function without everyone doing what he does.

>>389190026
Who is that cat? Also, source.

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I just want a good summoning game.

Muffle + Melee GOTY.

>>389201169
>and I can mod it so it remains effective all the way through.

Same goes for Witcher

>>389202037
I see this and i always wonder what its from

>>389199006
some dude named VanRipper

>>389202170
I don't think you want your heart ripped out.
Don't do it.

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>>389202037

Me too, bro. I sort of remember a game waaaay back in the 90s, i think, for the pc that used a lot of summoning. I can't remember what it was called, magic and mayhem or something. I have vague memories of it being a dope game based on summoning.

>>389190026
Two Worlds 2

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>>389202317
Sacrifice.

>>389201392
t. Trusty Patches

>>389202241
I spent 100s of hours modding skyrim.

It's safe to say there's nothing left to hurt.

>>389202565
Give me a quick run about that game

>>389203576

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAY3Dai7jNM

>>389190026
dominions 4

>>389190853
RIP Wizard Wars. Miss that shit.

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>>389190026
Genuinely, Quest 64.

>>389197505
That's some neat lore shame LITERALLY NONE OF IT applies to the gameplay systems of the game.

Dragon's Dogma

That was easy

>>389202170
Wasurenagumo

>>389197154
If it took you that long to realize it then I'm very sorry but you have fucking horrible taste

>>389201464
Two Worlds 2, hands down.

Dragon Age Inquisition is good with magic

Wakfu the MMO

>>389190026
chrono cross
chrono trigger
ff7, 9, x, tactics
anarchy online

>>389190839

>300 meme replies with reaction images

Fuck me, can reddit just leave already? Why does everything have to be a le ebin screencap? It's so fucking forced and formulaic, every fucking thread someone makes a typo and 300 crossposters show up to get in the screencap.

I WANT REDDIT TO LEAVE

>>389197984
I want to HUG that witch professor

>>389190026
Final Fantasy games such as 7, 8 and even 9
Shin Megami Tensei games
And even prior elder scrolls games like morrowind and oblivion
Skyrim's system is so bad that even with all the added spell pack shit it's still shit. The only way to actually fix it is by putting in crafted spells mod so it's like morrowind and oblivion and ordinator perks so there's actual variation.

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>>389207516
Move over gramps

>>389197505
how sweet it is to be a god

>>389190615
All Morrowind has going for it is the ability to combine spells.

>>389202037

Same, dude. ARPG's scratch the itch for a while but never for long.

>>389201639
>taking a shit ton of damage from being melee
>in a game with the most forgiving block
>hell even just moving out of the way is more effective
You don't know how to play video games if Skyrim melee combat is hard for you.

>>389197437
actually NPCS have infinite stamina and magica the only way to fix this is with mods

>>389190026
My biggest problem with this webm is that you always use the boring ass glitter animation instead of the fire ones.

>>389197505
So he's right, mysticism is necromancy.

>>389190026
candybox 2?

>>389202037
Wizardry 4

>>389207728
I can tell you as a matter of that that is false. NPCs do not have unlimited stamina.

does anyone else get rock hard when an NPC commits a finishing move on you

>>389190026
Skyrim with mods.

>>389208502
No. Especially not when it also causes the game to crash. I don't need *that* much immersion.

>>389190026
Path of exile

>>389208502
I feel a tingle in my penis when I kill something so hard it glitches out of the game engine.

>>389190026
arx fatalis

>>389207516
Do you honestly believe this is a new thing?

>>389190026
Oblivion.

>>389208370
This. It's also observable among melee NPCs when they're low on Stamina. They use power attacks a lot less and have to wait just like the player does to regen enough to launch another strong attack. NPC Mages never ever run out of Magicka, because they simply regen it faster than they can use it up. The large Magicka pools they have exist to allow them to cast Expert spells faster than a horny chihuahua shagging your ankle.
Everything about the magic mechanics in Skyrim are abysmal, and it robs playing pure mage of being viable. Your best bet for a magic user that doesn't suck ass is a spellsword or a stealth archer that casts Muffle every minute

> playing the college of winterhold quests.
> smash the shit out of everything with 2 handed warhammer anyway because lolmagic.

>>389207206
I regret watching this.

>>389211619
It was pretty shit. That reaction image was the only good thing to come out of it.

>>389190026
Magicka 2?

>>389190585
the animation really got chopped down when it became a netflix show, didn't it?

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why can't magic be real bros??? we will never cast spells

>>389190026
Oblivion.
Dragon's dogma.
that one game that allows you to cast spells by saying them.

Honestly skyrim's magic is pretty much ass. Game was far too simplified from previous iterations in virtually everything.

>>389212472
science is like magic

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>stealth archer master
>1 shot npc
>magic man supreme
>cast 500 fireballs
wowee

>>389190026
magicka, nox, Arx Fatalis

Divinity Original Sin has the best magic system

>>389190026
I can't name a game with a worse one, desu senpai

>>389190026
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>>389190026
Todd plz go