>They actually managed to get the Daytona USA singer, Takenobu

>intro is by a fucking CN aliased Animator
>not kickass Sunrise, Shaft or Trigger in reference to Toei animating the CD intro and Pierrot animating Sonic OVA
>we could have had a Sunrise Smooth Sonic Mania intro with Takenobu Mitsuyoshi remix of the Sonic Mania theme

>nope, Gumball Comics artist with EDM music

>>389189513
The animation itself was still really good, and it probably cost a fraction of the amount that it would have cost to have it made by an actual Japanese studio

>>389189513
Are you trying to imply that the intro is bad?

Does it matter who makes it as long as the final product is good?

>>389189513
Just because the intro wasn't from your shitty anime studio doesn't mean it was bad

>>389189513
Compare a big anime studio dedicated to make animations for nips with someone who isn't even an animator but a comic artist.
I still find it impressive how Tyson managed to pull off the whole thing by himself. But yeah not having motherfucking Mitsuyoshi to make the intro song was a big mistake as if SoA thought everyone loves beep boop Hyper Potions.

>>389189513
Tyson Hesse is fine but Hyper Potions is absolute fucking shit.

REMEMBER: if you let the OP run once and then let the title screen fade out you'll get a Tee Lopes version of the opening which is much, much better.

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How the fuck do I get to this box

>>389191730
Bubble/fire shield with Sonic.

>>389189034
I still wish they had Mitsuyoshi do a retake for like half of them.
he sounds kind of weird during the count down, especially when he says "GO!"

at least when he shouts "GOAL!" it sounds fucking ace

Can you get achievements from in Debug mode?

>>389189513
hesse is okay, the problem is that the intro is completely disconnected from the game's story and just has the characters fuck around in some kind of japanese boxart dimension for no reason

some people theorize that mania had a very different story at first that matched the intro, but they were forced to make it a forces tie-in, so they haphazardly threw together a few new cutscenes and axed stage transitions that didn't fit in anymore

>>389191730
There's a bubble shield hidden above the first conveyor belt in the level, bounce up and you'll see it. You gotta be Sonic to break the box, though.

>>389190226
>>389190751
>>389191110
>>389191549
Tyson Hesse is fair enough but there is no defending that Hyper Potions bullshit.

would an anon be kind enough to gift this to a college poorfag

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>>389194625
Like I said in my post >>389191549 Hesse is alright but the shitty bloop bleep techno Hyper Potions shit ruin the intro. Glad there's another version with a much better song that even includes sound effects that match the intro made by Tee the absolute madman.
Pic related is me hearing the song for the first time.

>>389194192
>>389191867
Items should be obtainable by all characters. This is bad game design.

>>389194968
Link for that?

>>389195043
>This is bad game design.
t. Bad

>>389195043
Who the fuck plays Tails?

>>389195081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBbFOHYYaDU
It happens after you let the intro play itself twice. The second time, the song will be different.

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>>389195043
So Tails shouldn't have Monitors that are only accessible via Flying? And Knuckles shouldn't have monitors in his exclusive paths?
You must hate this image, then.

>>389195213
Holy shit, this is miles better than the original.

>>389195479
I wonder why they didn't make it the first version that plays. Maybe Tee wasn't that happy with it.

>>389195634
I could see a couple of reasons why he would be unhappy with it but other than that, it's fantastic and it fits way better.

>>389194968
>>389195081
Fist Bump works and syncs better with the opening then the Hyper Potions Intro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKSZDsVfOcA

When the fuck is a good quality rip going to get uploaded?
All I ever see are line-in recordings on youtube. Fuck that shit. Fuck youtube.
The goddamn game files are available now, there should be something up by now.

>>389197142
oggs from pc mania are already passed around, they're 160 kb/s

>>389197567
>160kb/s
what the fuck
why, sega
has anyone made a proper soundtrack out of them yet

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Where were you when TomPoster BTFO'd Patafoin on Titanic Monarch Act 2?

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>>389197910
>scanlines

>>389197719
160kb/s isn't particularly bad in OGG (really, multiply that number by 1.5 or so for the effective MP3 bitrate), but it really could have been better.

maybe it's an actual ploy to sell the soundtrack... but afaik, the only thing they're selling are those vinyls

>>389195213
I'm extremely tempted to just duplicate this song in my copy of Mania and replace the Hyper Potions song completely. Shit's amazing.
but I probably can't be arsed because I never wait around for the opening

>>389198417
Are you another fag that plays with a real CRT and nitpicks about a fucking filter?

>>389195213
that sonic going into the ring and studiopolis playing in the background of the song sequence was absolutely kino

>>389198417
i really dont understand the scanlines. Like why would you want that on your led tv? like it makes sense that there are scan lines on old tube tvs but on new tvs it makes no sense

I WANNA FRYYYYY SKYYY HIIIIIIGH LETS GOOOOOOO TO GAY BAAAAAAAAR

BRU BRU SKIIIIIES BRU BRU SKIIIIES ICEEEEE

>>389198798
Nope, I'm someone who doesn't understand fags who use real CRTs or fags who use filters of any kind.
Why do you destroy the picture? It is a fucking mystery.

>>389197142
I gotchu famalam
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?t=218908
Hope you have an account, because they don't accept new ones anymore.

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>>389199473
>because they don't accept new ones anymore.
FUCK ME

>>389199473
for some reason it still says hidden link even though i already have an account there

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>First runthrough as Sonic and Tails
>Get a few game overs
>Do a Knuckles playthrough
>17 lives by Flying Battery

Holy fuck, climb up literally any wall and you get a life. Why did they make Fuckles easy modo?

>>389189513
>>389189513
Hesse's drawings are cancer. They try to look like CD-era drawings, but get the eyes wrong so they look like meme/tude faces. Ugly as fuck. The west can't do anything right when it comes to animation/art.

>>389200826
consider jumping off a skyscraper

>>389200826
>muh grorious nippon sonikku drawings

>>389200542
Theres lives everywhere. On my first playtrough with sonic i never got a game over. Its also really easy to cheese all bosses except metal sonic

>>389189513
I like Tyson Hesse for small things like licensed comics or twitter art, and having a fan do something like this is appropriate for "Mania" given the title and theme of the game, don't get me wrong. But if the Mania team could do a bigger title, with more freedom, a longer devtime, a bigger budget, multiple musicians, etc etc etc then I would really prefer an experienced animation studio do something dynamic like CD. Mania's intro, though it works, has some really choppy and janky animation in a lot of places, really boring cinematography, and an art style that lacks consistency and detail. The Sonic CD intro is better on every single level, but with an experience animation studio, musicians that are actually good (sorry Hyper Potions), and a clear vision of the designers, the CD intro could potentially be surpassed.

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Yo what's up

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>>389200826

>>389201226
So like an Advance successor?

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>>389201342
Oh fuck me, is that actually in the game

I never actually looked too hard at their animations. That shit's terrifying

>>389201023
SEETHING

>>389201810
If you let the Amy Doll cling to you and don't shake it off in time, it'll flash that smile and then blow up.

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>>389197910
>add online leaderboards
>don't add online co-op or competitive
>don't add special stage race competitive with online
WHAT'S THE POINT

>>389201196
if you're talking about the race part then yes I guess but there's no plausible way you should die on the spike wall part
you should be able to grab a ring every single time after getting hit and catch up to metal sonic

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>>389201836
Aren't I just a cutie?

>>389198624
160kbps OGG opus is transparent

fucking 128kbps opus is nearly transparent

it's perfectly fine

>>389202516
>>389198624
>>389197719
>>389197567
>>389197142
different anon here, I don't care about all your guys nerd talk, just give me those sweet tunes

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>>389202620
https://mega.nz/#!MF5yUYbC!_k9AHjs3a1dO4dIsZdkKYLH01_AQ8NjX-pyG5U_zUWM

>>389202340
The part where you have to hit metal with those mini sonic robots was hell

>>389202676
Nice tail ass.

>>389202516
I'm still mad that OGG never won the format war.
actually, fucking anything would have been better than "designed to be decodable on top-end early-90s computers" MP3

>>389202750
as cute as that reference was (and I loved how Metal Sonic clamped in like the penultimate boss in Chaotix), it totally sucked to fight
really, if I hadn't seen a video of it, I'd have just kept killing the mini Silver Sonics while waiting to be able to attack Metal himself

>>389194114
>the problem is that the intro is completely disconnected from the game's story and just has the characters fuck around in some kind of japanese boxart dimension for no reason

It's a stylized intro you autist. Your theory makes no sense and has very little to back it up.

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>>389202676
thank you

Fuck Puyo. I suck shit at it. The Triple Trouble achievement is the only one I need left.

>>389189513
They picked out Tyson because they have connections with him and Studio Yotta was probably a lot cheaper than a Japanese studio.

They barely even had a marketing budget for Mania and didn't even bother with a physical release. Most of the advertising is from their social media and word of mouth. I don't think Sega knew what they were getting into when they greenlit Mania and assumed it would just be a small niche game only dedicated fans would really care about.

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>>389189513

They fired the CN guy for leaking a clip. Tyson had to do the entire animation himself.

This was also a low budget game. I don't know why you think blowing the majority of the budget to hire a big studio for the opening animation. That makes absolutely no sense.

You're right about the Daytona guy not singing the main theme though. Who the fuck is Hyper Potions? Like seriously. Have they ever done anything Sonic related before Mania? I've never heard of them in any fan circles. Who's fucking dick did they suck?

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>>389200542

>17 lives
>By Flying Battery

Nigga, if you didn't have 20 lives by the time you reached Chemical Plant Zone Act 2 then something is wrong with you

>>389202927

When the Game Gear mecha Sonic came out I thought the game was going to make me fight every mecha sonic the series had one after another. When the tiny Sonic died in out hit and a second one came out I got really disappointed and figured I had to use them in some way.

I don't even remember how I figured out that I had to bounce them into metal Sonic. i think it was completely on accident.

>>389203182

If there's a Mania 2 I genuinely hope Sega keeps the budget small again. The more money publishers throw at a game, the worse it always seems to be.

>>389203548
What do I have to do to get this achievment?
Beat act 1 of the last level really fast?

>>389195043
(You)

>>389203548
What are you supposed to do to get Professional Hedgehog?

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WHERE
IS
THE
FUCKING
TORREEEEEEEEEEEEENT

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>>389196735
>already blows its load before the elevator opens
>lyrics and overall composition doesn't match the animation's tone or the characters' interactions
>only ever syncs up with Sonic entering and leaving Studiopolis

Yeah the Hyper Potions song wasn't great, but you're going to strain yourself if you keep reaching that hard.

>>389203861
not get hit

>>389203861

Get through Titanic Monarch act 1 without getting hit.

>>389203785
>>389203861

No hit clear

It's a fucking nightmare as Knuckles, strictly because of the boss and Knuckles jump height .

>>389203959
Does it count if I make it through with Super?

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>>389200826
>meme/tude

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>>389189034
In order for a possible sequel to surpass Mania and go beyond, it would have to have:
- All new zones or branch out to zones that weren't already in the genesis games
- Unique Paths for Tails and more for Knuckles, in the vein of 3&K. They should also get unique bosses in certain zones and different endings.
- Bonus stages that give you rings/shields and continues
- Zone transitions for every stage and a story on par with S3&K
- More satisfying endings and a better final boss
- Unlockable Amy Rose and Metal Sonic with unique moves.
- Drop Dash and Insta Sheild together for Sonic
- 14 Special Stages and Super Emeralds
- MUCH more development time

Also, objectively: 3C/3&K > M > Taxman CD > 2 > 1
Mania is close to 3&K and has better animation, even slightly edges out in level design but it falters in the finale and gets some of the little touches, like bonus stages, wrong. They even forgot that Angel Island should be floating at in the opening cutscene. There's a lot of obvious cut content in the last half and it doesn't transition as smoothly as the first half. 3&K is a much more complete game.

>>389196735

That didn't synch at all

>>389204164
>3C/3&K on the same level
Nah

>>389201563
No, like a Sonic CD and Sonic 3K successor. Mania isn't a successor, it's a love letter, but a very enjoyable one.

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>>389204164
>- Unlockable Amy Rose and Metal Sonic with unique moves.

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Normal people
>"This intro is so well animated!"
>"I love the music!"
>2 million views on YouTube, 99% likes

/v/
>"This is tumblr animation. Sonic looks like a meme. They should've hired my favourite Nippon studio instead."
>"The music is garbage. Sega is retarded for picking this band. I bet no one likes this."
>2 million ironic shitposts about Iizuka

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>>389204072

>>389204829
It's almost impressive how peope here have managed to so painfully contort themselves into disliking Hesse.

>>389203383
Looks like they had two Sonic related remixes before the Pre-order trailer. I wonder how they were picked up to make songs for Mania.

>>389204829
>Defending western animation in 2017

The absolute state of you

>>389203776
Nah, I'd rather they get the same freedom and respect the developers of the original games had so they can make a real successor, except don't cut the games down if it takes more than a year, just give them a long devtime.

>>389204389
I'm including them as the same game, which they are. 3C is the definitive version.
>>389204689
Is there any reason not to? Sonic 2 introduced another playable charter. 3 gave Tails his own play style and introduced yet another. If there was a Genesis Sonic 4, they probably would have added yet another.

>>389203548
Shouldn't you get a 10k Cool bonus from not getting hit?

>>389202676
I swear to god if this is dolphin porn again

>>389205678
It is

>>389204987

The game's been out for three weeks. That's enough time to establish that it's really good, so now all the contrarians and master baiters are coming out of the woodwork to ruin threads and jerk off to their "superior taste." It happens with every new game /v/ likes talking about. Give it six months and I bet you cash money that /v/ will be saying Mania is a reddit may-may game that only newfags like.

>>389204689
Are you the so called Metal Tomposter?

>>389205715
Is it good dolphin porn?

>>389205678
>>389205841
it's top of the shelf

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>play S3K
>try to drop dash
>it doesn't work

>>389205308

>Nah, I'd rather they get the same freedom and respect the developers of the original games had so they can make a real successor, except don't cut the games down if it takes more than a year, just give them a long devtime.

You do realize that the original developers had no respect or freedom, not even a decent dev cycle right?

Sonic games always had shitty dev cycles.

>>389205898
Honestly half of the time I try to drop dash in this game it doesn't work, what am I doing wrong?

>>389205668

I took a screenshot as it was counting down since the steam achievement didn't pop up right away

>>389205976

You have to let go of jump and press it again in midair. You'll hear the spindash wind up noise, and you have to keep holding jump until you hit the ground.

>>389203651
This. I can't believe Lego Dimensions got it right but Sonic Mania didn't. It's ridiculous.

>>389203872
https://skidrowgamesreloaded.com/sonic-mania-full-unlocked/
Right here famalam

>>389205976
>jump
>press jump again mid-air and hold it
>as soon as you land, it fires

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>>389205898
>play Mania
>try to drop dash
>it works perfectly

>>389205898

I'm sure it'll be implemented in Sonic 3 Complete within a year.

>>389205976
The trick is to jump, then press and hold jump again. You can't Drop Dash if, let's say, you're curled up and go off a slope or something, or anytime you're forced to uncurl (springs)

>>389204829
>Iizuka shitposts
>bad
Hi Iizuka.

>>389205976
You have to hold the jump button for a certain amount of time before it works. You'll usually hear a sound effect indicating that it'll work when you hit the ground.

>>389205898
Where is the drop dash mod for Sonic 2? The game was made for it.

>>389205976
look at your upwards momentum
if you're acceleration is too high you can't activate your aerial skill (works the same way with Tails' flight and Knux's glide)
if you just tap the jump button then you can
activate the drop dash almost immediately due to your low acceleration.

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>>389204689
>>- Unlockable Amy Rose and Metal Sonic with unique moves.
I'd be cooler if they did Fang the Sniper. They could make his story mode a b-plot that sort of happens in the background, like they did with Knuckles in S3K, Mania, and presumably the next project. Give him a treasure to chase that Sonic and friends need. Amy was sort of made to be a little girl hedgehog that gets herself into trouble, Metal Sonic is pure evil and is best when loyal to Robotnik, but Fang feels like he was designed as "the fourth one," but he debuted in a really minor game so there was no "& Fang" to bring his character full circle. It'd be cool if Mania team did that, taking a neat little irrelevant character and doing something cool and fresh with it, instead of just going with a sure thing.
Also The Taxman seems to like Fang based on his previous work, for what that's worth.

>>389206448
What previous work?

>>389206448
>Fang
He'll always be Knack to me.

>>389206441
Actually, I'm not sure about it working the same way as Tails' flight. But whatever, the point still stands. If you're going up too fast you can't drop dash.

>>389204061
Yes it does.

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>>389206097
>play Mania
>try to drop dash
>doesn't works because I toggled peel out, and they're incompatible because reasons

>>389204829
>>"This intro is so well animated!"
Well, let's not go crazy, it was serviceable. Tyson himself says he's not an animator, and he's right. There are a lot of hiccups, poor animations, strange expressions, weird floaty and jittery movements, and the cinematography is a bit bland. Again it's serviceable but it isn't a "well animated" cartoon.
>>"I love the music!"
Referring to Tee Lopes, who did a fantastic job. Hyper Potions' intro is pretty bad though.

Being critical of Tyson doesn't mean I don't like him though, he's just not an animator, as he says. It definitely doesn't mean I don't like the game or even the intro either, I like them both. You'd have to be insane to assume that.

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>>389206448
>Playable Nack

MY FUCKING DICK

In all likelihood Mania will probably be his last appearance

>>389206889

The sad part is it wasn't even really Nack, it was an illusion.

>>389206448
>Fang is the fourth one, after STK and should take presence over Amy and Metal Sonic
Fangfags have a Nack for being retarded
>Taxman likes Fang
Not more than he likes CD

Also, Amy already has a good moveset and has been shown to be able to hold her own in Sonic the Fighters. Metal Sonic already has sprites to work with, and working out the boss fights be as easy as putting an Eggrobo in Eggman's place, which has been done before. Hell, put more emphasis on the Hard Boiled Heavies going rouge like Heavy King did at the end of Mania. That'd be the perfect excuse to kick some ass as Metal Sonic.

>>389191721
>>389201226

hyper potions is great, get better taste. future bass is very fun music

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>>389206015
That's not possible since your ring bonus says 7400 and your ring count is 74, the time bonus remains 500 and the total clearly says 0.
Is this some next level bait I don't understand

>>389206823
I am going to ignore your completely and assume you hate tyson and the game because you criticized his awesome animation.
In all seriousness, we need more people like you here.

>>389206823
The animation was great from a technical standpoint, my probably was that it was too Tumblry. Supporting western animation in the current year is supporting Tumblrtoons.

>>389206078
>https://skidrowgamesreloaded.com/sonic-mania-full-unlocked/
>wait for crack

>>389207292
>The animation was great from a technical standpoint
That's actually where it falls flat. He's good at polish, but not the smooth foundation required to make a good animation.

>>389207079

I can tell you you for a fact that it was at 10k. Why it isn't totalling in the frame I took the screenshot in I have no idea.

If you believe me or not, I really don't give a fuck. I wasn't trying to demonstrate the achievement but the lives count.

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>>389207053
The most complicated existing Metal Sonic animations in Mania are his sitting down one, when he jumps, and his finger wag. He's otherwise really basic and would need a ton of work to make him comparable to the other playable characters. It's comparable to starting from scratch.

>>389207389
You wanted a torrent, not a crack.
I gave you a page with a link to a torrent.

>>389207292

>Tumblry

What does that even mean?

>>389207292
>le website boogayman

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>>389207425
Fine man I believe ya don't worry it all ok.

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>People hate Tyson Hesse

What? How?

His comic was posted all the time on /v/ before.

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>>389207663
Please refer to this image and you'll find the answer to your question.

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>>389200542
>Game overs with Sonic and Tails
>Game overs playing on what is basically easy mode

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>>389207945
D-Don't bully!

>>389207053
>Also, Amy already has a good moveset
Yeah cool, that was fun, now let's not repeat it where it wouldn't fit and instead someone else get a more fitting character get a good, NEW moveset. I know you'll argue and argue for hours that you really want Classic Amy to be morphed into Advance Amy with a strong heroic personality, with the jokey Sonic the Fighters spinoff being the justification, but I don't think any classic Sonic fans that aren't massive Amy fans are about anything like that. Advance happened, it exists, it's good, but in a classic revival that also has fresh new ideas it should, you know, revive something classic with fresh new ideas. Amy has run her course in the modern games, but Fang has never been explored.

Metal Sonic was given just enough animation to be a boss. I'm thinking he'd be a cool optional character in some kind of new vs mode.

>>389207435
Still easier than Fang

>>389207537
>>389207557
He's obviously a false flagging Hesse fan you idiots.

>>389208209

>Amy has run her course

The delusions of Fang fans is amusing

If anything, now would be the perfect time to include her in a mainline game again.

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>>389208209

>A-BLOO BLOO BLOO!

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>>389208747
>>389208860
>Amyfags

>>389208209
>Fang is a more fitting character
Fucking how? He's a Sonic character with a gun. Amy and Metal both predate him, have better designs, appear in mainline games, and have been playable before outside of spin-offs.
>Amy has a strong, heroic personality
Either you're retarded or you really know nothing about the characters. Not even Sonic himself has a "strong heroic personality", he just loves adventure hates the idea of having freedom being taken away. And how the fuck does Nack, a hunter for hire, fit the bill better?
>No classic Sonic fans like Amy
Faggot, everybody likes Amy and Metal, Nack is in the mega obscure bin with Bean and Bark where he belongs.
>Classic revival with fresh new ideas
You fucking WOT m8? Have you even played Mania? The game where nearly every level is nostalgiabait?

Fang isn't horrible but he's a non-character. He'll never be anywhere near the core cast or significance. And he'll be lucky to cameo again. Stay salty, you stupid faggot. And by the way, Metal got a HELL of a lot more animation that Fang. And he has an ACTUAL fanbase who wants him.

>>389208929
They're the Ridleyfags of Sonic. It's not even worth arguing with them; the BTFO'ing they from Amy not being playable is more effective than any insults.

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>>389209185
I have no dog in this Nack vs Amy amy, just letting you know that I'm not reading your post because it looks obnoxious at a glance.

>>389209237

Unlike Ridley, Amy has actually been playable

If anything, Fang lines up closer to Ridley. A vocal minority that believe that their stupid purple character deserves any sort of spot anywhere.

>>389209185
>Fucking how? He's a Sonic character with a gun.
Marvelous Queen and a popgun.
Because Classic Amy and Modern Amy might as well be separate characters. You want to lift an exact gameplay style from a modern game and put it in a classic game. That's just an odd idea, it'd make more sense to ask for that in a new Sonic Team or Dimps game, or some sort of Advance successor. Fang is more capable in classic Sonic platformer he shows up in, he could have a moveset that's totally unique.

>Amy predates him
Knuckles too, yet she's not even in Mania.
>has a better design
Lol, debatable. Neither are particularly great but Amy is just slightly cute, mostly just a small pink Sonic in clothes
>appear in mainline games
As a useless damsel in destress
>and have been playable before outside of spin-offs.
Modern Amy has, in modern games. Classic Amy hasn't, because it doesn't fit outside spin-offs. That's not her character. You'll get Adventure 3 someday, buddy. Just keep praying for it.
>>No classic Sonic fans like Amy
I like Amy. I just don't want her playable in a classic platformer, it's been done in modern games already, that's Modern Amy's thing. Just hang in there, it'll stop being the Sonic Only Show at some point.
>Faggot, everybody likes Amy
Well, you'd just have to be delusional to think this. She's one of the least liked Sonic characters there is. In a series where Charmy Bee exists.
>Nack is in the mega obscure bin
Yeah that's kind of the point, and I'm not surprised you missed it. It's about taking something minor and turning it into something major. Using some creativity instead of just doing the same things everyone else has done.
>You fucking WOT m8? Have you even played Mania? The game where nearly every level is nostalgiabait?
Are you Iizuka?