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>it's been 10 years >It's still over https:/

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>it's been 10 years
>It's still over
https://youtu.be/zgqz8Je7P0s
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>>389171609
Kind of sad, kind of glad.
I wouldn't mind if they considered update the first two games a bit, just port them to better performing engines, but we got our closure and I hope they don't get weird ideas.
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>>389171609
Werent they making a spinoff
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>>389172126
For the first one I agree, second one I do not. Second one looks better than 3 in many ways
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the series actually ended 18 years ago with the release of LotL

>>389172220
yeah a shitty card game
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I wish it had ended sooner. Watching them begin the transformation to Bioware is painful.

>>389172126
>closure
What closure? TW3 is full of plot holes.

>>389172220
They'll have a shitty Witcher 4 announcement in a year or two don't worry.
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>>389172445
m8 plz.
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>>389172445
Second one IS better than 3 in many ways. They sold out.

>>389172486
TW2 was a worthy sequel to the books. TW1 was comfy but fanservicey. TW3 was a disappointment.
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>>389172562
Lighting is better in TW2, art design is better as well, animations and faces are worse.
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>>389171609
thank you geraldo ;_;
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>>389172490
>They'll have a shitty Witcher 4 announcement in a year or two don't worry.
Only if cyberpunk flops horribly and they need easy money to get back on their feet.
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>>389172490
>What closure? TW3 is full of plot holes.
Arguable, but it definitely doesn't end on a cliffhanger. In fact Blood and Wine is one of the biggest anti-cliffhangers I've seen in recent memory, and as far as Geralt is concerned you do get closure.
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>>389172654
>people will actually thank them for allowing them to give them money
>all over a Bioware tier fanservice clip
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>>389171609
I don't blame you CDPR. But the series is based on plagiarism.

Elric sends his regards.
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>>389172678
>In fact Blood and Wine is one of the biggest anti-cliffhangers I've seen in recent memory, and as far as Geralt is concerned you do get closure.
Blood and Wine was insulting.
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>>389172490
>They'll have a shitty Witcher 4 announcement in a year or two don't worry.
Delicious butthurt but there won't be any TW4

Cyberpunk 2077 won't be even out in next 2 years
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>>389172445
I said performance. You can get the game to run smoothly for the most part, but I recall vividly some parts of the game being jittery regardless, and the interface wasn't terribly smooth either.
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Ultimately, Dragon Age won.
It came out earlier as a series, sold more as a series, and will last longer as a series.
I think its combined critics score is higher also.
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>>389171609
Cringe
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>>389172843
>couldn't even get the lawsuit to go anywhere
I think Moorcock might be the only more JUST'D fantasy writer than Sapkowski

>>389172884
>Delicious butthurt but there won't be any TW4
Yeah companies hate sequels that would print money. CDPR would never compromise their artistic integrity anyway, right/
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>>389172490
Yeah I'm still mad about that. The announcement of no enhanced edition and no redkit were a sucker punch to the gut, too. Add to that the nonsensical leveling of the world and quests, the retarded level distribution and total lack of organization of loot, overpowered and grindy crafting system, and almost total lack of visual exposition in the landscape and there were a lot of things about the Witcher 3 that I hated. I still liked the game and the story and the side quests but I can't even play the game vanilla and honestly fuck doing any exploring outside of quests
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>There will never be anymore more Witcher games with Geraldo of Rivera

Will Cyberpunk be able to capture my heart like Witcher did
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>>389172914
No matter who won, we lost. PC gaming is dead. CRPGs are dead. it's ogre
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>>389172843
>muh elric

Fuck off, I mean it's obvious author read that shit and took some inspiration from main character but that's fucking it
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>>389172975
>>couldn't even get the lawsuit to go anywhere
He just didn't bother doing it. He had a stronger case against GW and didn't pursue that, remember?
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That unironically made me feel
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>>389171609
Isnt vesemir dead?
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>>389173023
I know that feel bro. Our fault for getting blindly invested in the series in the first place though.
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>>389172758
As opposed to most AAA companies flat out ignoring 10th anniversaries? Valve didn't care, Bethesda didn't care.

We all know that you have a hate boner for CDPR, TheBull94, but this video was a nice gesture wherever you like it or not.
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>>389173080
And the fucker just will not own up to it.
Neither will the fanbase. That's the difference between GRRM and Neil Gaiman with Sapkowski.

Acknowledgement and respect.
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Truly he is geralt of Feelia
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>>389172851
I get that you just want an excuse to bitch and whine, but I'm still talking about closure, not quality.
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>>389173198
I mean if they just made a Witcher game it would have been sweet. Everything that came with turning it open world made it go to shit and it didn't have to
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>>389173219
>As opposed to most AAA companies flat out ignoring 10th anniversaries? Valve didn't care, Bethesda didn't care.
Yeah they're very clever. Minimal cost to them and makes them seem like they're the bro of all bros all while doing the same shit everyone else does. meanwhile still no redkit, no linux version, game is desperately in need of an enhanced edition that will never come, and all future games are guaranteed to be soulless open world trash designed for the worst performing console they launch on.

>We all know that you have a hate boner for CDPR, TheBull94,
I laughed at him too but he was right in a lot of ways.
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>>389173072
>CRPGs are dead
>two weeks until Divinity Original Sin 2 releases
>new Pillars of Eternity game
>Shadowrun series successfully rebooted, more games to come
>Expeditions series produced two great games, recently the Vikings one
>Underrail better than expected, more expansions soon
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>>389172851
Blood and wine is one of the best parts of the entire series and in my opinion way better than the linear as shit hearts of stone
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>>389173252
The nickname was obviously an homage, what's the problem?

>>389173271
Can't have closure with massive dangling plot threads.
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>>389172975
Anon, we will get C2077 in like early 2020, even if they would start working at next Witcher then it would take another 5-6 years, no one in 2026 will give a fuck about Geralt

Normal company would like to smash this hot shit as fast as possible to get $$$
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>>389172843
>Elric still hasn't gotten his own vidya, film or tv adaptations.

Think of the possibilities.
Stormbringer being best sword. Wasting demons and fucking dragon waifus left and right.
Like Berserk on bath salts.
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>>389173381
That and wanting the console audience. And the Biowareification of the script.

>>389173463
Pillars of Eternity is coming to console the first marks of the end are upon us
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>>389173601
>Anon, we will get C2077 in like early 2020

More like exactly one year from now.
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>>389173057
I'd say it's going to be a whole different animal from Witcher. Expect nothing.
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>>389173504
>Blood and wine is one of the best parts of the entire series
t. my first game was TW3

Biodrones never die, they just jump to new franchises

>>389173601
>we will get C2077
I have yet to see any evidence that game even exists tbqh
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>>389173549
>The nickname was obviously an homage, what's the problem?
That he has NEVER admitted this. Neither will the fanbase.
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>>389173758
My first game was the Witcher 1 in 2007 you fucking pleb.
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>>389171609
Will they do an enhanced edition for TW3?
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>>389173725
All open world ARPGs are the same these days
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>>389171609
Good. You need to know when to end shit despite fans and probably share holders clamoring for more.
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>>389173829
Do I count as part of the fanbase because I just admitted it.

>>389173867
No it doesn't need an enhanced edition they already added all the waifu dialogue you need famalam
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>>389173867
They are making a ps4pro and xbonex enhancement, but it'll just have more PC features enabled and still run at 30fps

We'll never get proper lighting, draw distance, or textures for PC because cdpr is lazy
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>>389173437
Anon, do I really have to bust out this old pasta for you?

Fucking /v/

Every company wants money. They always do what they do for money. Be them EA, Ubisoft, Valve, CDPR, or anyone else, they want your money.

But, they search for said money in different ways. Some companies simply look for short-term profits and rape the fuck out of their fanbase to extract as much money as they can before the fanbase gets sick of it. EA is one such company, who buys out existing titles, exploits the fuck out of them until they can't be exploited anymore, then shuts them down. Activision rehashes and rehashes and rehashes to exploit brand names as much as possible.

Other companies who look into the long-term and want more stability try to get money by building a good reputation and with it a very loyal fanbase, and usually pander to niche markets. CDPR is one such example.

Reacting to CDPR's stance on DRM and piracy with "YOU'RE JUST PRETENDING TO BE NICE TO PANDER TO ME, YOU'RE NOT GONNA FOOL ME WITH YOUR MARKETING TRICKS!" is fucking retarded. Yes of course they want money, they have owners and investors who want profits, they have workers to pay, and they have to pay for the costs of producing games. And yes of course they have this cool image and decent views on piracy because they want to pander to smarter games and build a loyal fanbase, with the intent of getting money.

But they are trying to make money the RIGHT way, by offering a good service to their customers rather than exploiting them for short-term gain. Hating on companies that try to make money the RIGHT way by crying "It's just a marketing scheeme!" is just going to stimulate more shit companies to enter the market, you dumbasses.

Holy fuck /v/, you can get fucking retarded at times.
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>>389173941
Anyone that doesn't think TW4 will start development within the next two years is an idiot.

>>389174009
I'd play the game on the fucking TW2 engine if they'd just make the story make sense.
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>>389173758
The Witcher 1 was full of walking all the way across town to speak to one NPC, get 4 lines out of them, then walk all the way to the other way of town, get 4 more lines from a different NPC, then go across town AGAIN, get on a boat, walk across the swamp, get 4 lines from an NPC there, and then return to the first town.

There was so FUCKING much empty walking around empty uninteractive areas, with no random encounters or random events occurring like in Elder Scrolls for example.

It had good stuff in it, definitely, but there was so much filler, so much downtime, so much waiting. And you can sperg out how much waiting makes you a pro and wasting time is hardcore as fuck, I disagree. Its not patience, or strategy, or tactic, its like waiting 2 hours in Thief for the guard to switch to his second patrol pastern.
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>>389173437
>while doing the same shit everyone else does
I don't see CDPR doing paid mods. Or adding in microtransactions. Or using an employees death to bait people into buying said microtransactions. Or using Denuvo. Or shitting out sequels every year. Or shitting low quality DLCs with high price tags.

CDPR is THE best AAA dev right now, you might not like it but it's true.

>meanwhile still no redkit
It's a shame but then again Witcher games were never meant to be mod sandboxes like Todd's games.

>no linux version
>use a non-mainstream OS (ie anything other than windows)
>be surprised when games don't support it
It's on you buddy.

> game is desperately in need of an enhanced edition that will never come
It already got the enhancements through the numerous patches.

>all future games are guaranteed to be soulless open world trash designed for the worst performing console they launch on.
Well if you say so then it must be so.
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>>389173941
They could've released some "Adventures of Geralt" kind of game based on some other book.
I don't think many people would've minded.
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>>389172758
>fanservice literal CLIP
>somehow similar to a whole DLC of fanservice that doesn't even fit in the story
exactly the same retard
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>>389173980
>Do I count as part of the fanbase because I just admitted it.
You're a rare sight to behold. Good.
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>>389174060
CDPR has dropped the act htough. They learned they don't have to do much extra if they just throw in some Bioware Citadel DLC tier winks. They do all the downgrades and broken promises and transparent money grubbing (Gwent anyone?) all the other ones do now. Just because they used to be decent doesn't mean you defend them forever. That's how we got to this point in the first place.
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>>389172914
>Ultimately, Dragon Age won.

It's comparative. Who was CDPR compared to Bioware when they started out and who are they know at the end of the trilogy? That's the real state of things.
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>>389172654
>Triss by Geralt's side

Based CDPR.
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>>389174125
You should have talked to more unnamed NPCs, you actually do encounter random stuff that way. I'm not surprised you didn't because the game doesn't give you any hint that you can get quests that way, but still.
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>>389174083
We are getting more Witcher, though. Gwent. They just said GERALT'S story is over. I fully expect more games in the franchise.
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>>389174161
>I don't see CDPR doing paid mods. Or adding in microtransactions.
Give it a year.

>CDPR is THE best AAA dev right now, you might not like it but it's true.
Therefore it's fine that they're worse than they used to be, because eveyone else is even more shit? This company doesn't give a shit about you. Why defend it?

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>no linux version
>use a non-mainstream OS (ie anything other than windows)
>be surprised when games don't support it
It's on you buddy.
They literally said they were going to do one.
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>>389174218
Name me a good company.
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Made me feel, Blood and Wine final cutscene all over again
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>>389174317
I got "random" quests like dog fat for the undertaker or playing dice with the gardener, shit like that.
But 90% of NPCs didn't have that. When you talk to an NPC, chances are they have nothing to say. And then you check again after the plot advances, and they still have nothing to say.
After a time you decide to stop, since the developer clearly didn't go that way.
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>>389174218
>They learned they don't have to do much extra if they just throw in some Bioware Citadel DLC tier winks.
Good to know you're basing this on absolutely nothing after Witcher 3's two stellar expansions.
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>>389172654
>The horse
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>>389174161
>It already got the enhancements through the numerous patches.
The game didn't need more Triss waifu dialogue or meme quests with godlings, it needed a plot that wasn't full of holes.

>Well if you say so then it must be so.
You're just setting yourself up for disappointment Anon. I was you a couple years ago, just waiting for my bros CDPR to fix their release for free because they love their work right?
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>>389171609
I really hope one day they go back to 1 and take it off that shitty aurora engine. Ideally not changing the gameplay, and just trying to fix all the terrible annoying bugs. 1's easily my favorite, but even I can't defend those terrible bugs.
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>>389171609
>Implying there wont be a Witcher 4
They'll cave... t...they want it more than me.
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>>389172884
>Cyberpunk 2077 won't be even out in next 2 years
Its coming out in either 2018, or early 2019. We already know this, keep up with the news.
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>>389174178
>>somehow similar to a whole DLC of fanservice that doesn't even fit in the story
Blood and Wine.

>>389174192
tbqh I'm not sure I count as part of the fanbase anymore. All the ones that hopped aboard for TW3 have very different opinions.
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>>389172914
>It came out earlier as a series
m8

This wouldn't be so egregious if this thread wasn't about how old The Witcher is now in this very moment
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>>389174423
There are none.

>>389174469
Blood and Wine was shit. TW3's main story was shit.

>>389174219
>Who was CDPR compared to Bioware when they started out and who are they know at the end of the trilogy? That's the real state of things.
It's like poetry
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>>389174060
CDPR makes money by working their employees to death and paying them nothing, which allowed them to make a good game on a lower budget.
Bad for the industry, great for players. But it won't last. As they become "bigger" profile, they can't do that anymore, there'd be media backlash on them.

Basically they are getting that growing pain developing nations get, when their people suddenly feel they are middle class and want certain privileges and wages, so the economy can't run on sweatshops anymore.
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Does anyone think they'll be a spin off series with Ciri in the future? I think it could be a really cool western take on Ninja Gaiden considering how Ciri can warp fast around people.

Maybe they could show what happened after she went into the portal into the end? I've been fantasizing about her time travelling and working with the old witcher schools. They could have a chapter of her working with the bear,griffin,maticore and wolf schools. I think it could be pretty badass.

Plus you know they'll get SJW bucks since Ciri is actually a likable strong female character
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>>389174618
>All the ones that hopped aboard for TW3 have very different opinions.
Then we're back to square one.

Sapkowski is a hack and the Witcher series is plagiarized.
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>>389173252
What's this about Gurm and Gaiman?
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>>389174723
>Blood and Wine was shit.

That's your opinion, mate. Just know you're in the tiny minority of contrarians.
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>>389174723
you are shit
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>>389174338
>We are getting more Witcher, though.
Why would you want that? They peaked with the second game. Now the more they do the worse it gets.

>>389174468
Those aren't random quests. I'm talking like the villager in Vizima that's grandma is under control of a fleder and crap like that. Not that your criticisms of TW1 was invalid. I just cut them more slack then because they were tiny and poor.
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>>389174536
>terrible bugs
Even on release, the ridiculous loading times were my only technical problem and that got fixed.
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>>389174715
You are right, I was counting Neverwinter for some reason.
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>>389172654
10/10 based GOAT cast. I love literally everyone in that picture.
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>>389174823
>That's your opinion, mate. Just know you're in the tiny minority of contrarians.
I'm not a contrarian, I'm the core fanbase. Or was, before the biodrones took over. Blood and Wine was everything the Witcher games rejected when they first started.

>>389174465
I cringed when he looked right at the camera.
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>>389174310
Triss is a thirsty ho and Yen is secure in her relationship
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in which order should I play witcher games and dlc
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>>389174415
>Therefore it's fine that they're worse than they used to be, because eveyone else is even more shit? This company doesn't give a shit about you. Why defend it?

Anon you know that you can dislike a game and at the same time it doesn't make the whole company shit, right? You can look at things objectively.

>They literally said they were going to do one.
They literally did not. Care to find me a source where they did? That's what I thought.
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>>389174219
>Who was CDPR compared to Bioware when they started out and who are they know at the end of the trilogy?
Jesus Christ, that's depressing when I think about it.

Btw, I will strangle fucking chink Moot for this captcha bullshit.
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>>389174575
They definitely want your money more than you
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>>389174941
Explain what's so fucking wrong with blood and wine. I don't see it. It very easily could have been a couple chapters of the Witcher 1
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>>389174814
>What's this about Gurm and Gaiman?
GRRM based good chunks of ASOIAF on Elric and Moorcock stuff in general(they're good friends) and even threw in a small easter egg in one of the episodes he wrote for GOT.
And Neil Gaiman is a massive fan of Moorcock, saying that Stormbringer is one of the best and most important books he ever read.
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>>389174723
>there are none.
what a cheap fucking cop-out, name a company you like who has good business practices so we can compare them to CDPR. You won't because you're a shitposting bitch who's afraid that they're gonna be shit on.
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>>389174775
>Sapkowski is a hack and the Witcher series is plagiarized.
I didn't say that, I just said Geralt's nickname is an homage to Elric. The plot and characterization really isn't remotely similar to Elric or any of the Champion Eternal stuff besides nods like that.

>>389174767
Also cost of living in Poland was really low at the time. Also now that they're mainstream and get money from publishers and ocmpanies like Microsoft they're beholden to expectations of their marketing teams. That's why TW3 is the best place to start the series and everything has to be inoffensive and ego stroking. Gamers hate time limits and tough choices, according to market research.
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>>389175216
>The plot and characterization really isn't remotely similar to Elric or any of the Champion Eternal stuff besides nods like that.
Except the entire reason why their cosmos exists.
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>>389175176
To shit on one company I have to be on the team of another? What a brainwashed consumerist shill you are.

A company will only ever treat you well because you demand it. Start slurping their cock like this and they'll gladly fuck you.

>>389174770
>Does anyone think they'll be a spin off series with Ciri in the future
It's almost a certainty.
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>>389172843
One, that is weak bait.

Two, that is shit art of Elric, Robert Gould or go home. Everyone else does shit "albino barbarian" art.

Three, Moore-can-suck-his-own-cock would not know what plagiarism is if it smacked him in the face, spun him around, and fucked him up the ass.

Four, don't you have a shitty metal concert to attend, Razorfist?
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>>389174770
if they do that i actually wont buy it. it seems far more likely they're going to go for bethesda's market share with an open world create a witcher game. especially since they got that grant from poland for researching open world game technology.
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>>389173504
BaW was terrible. The story was worse than the main game's unfinished story.
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>>389175314
If all companies are such shit, which company is the least shit then? Answer me you pussy.
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WHO /beenwiththemfromthestart/ HERE?
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>>389175298
Moorcock didn't invent the concept of a multiverse.

>>389175031
>Not one difficult choice
>Disgusting hyper saturated lighting
>Plot completely full of wholes
>Fanservice cast, Regis had no reason to be there and should have stayed dead
>Detlaff is a terrible autistic antagonist
>Syanna is just a ripoff of Renfri
>waifushack
>Lackluster soundtrack
decent fights with the vampires though

>It very easily could have been a couple chapters of the Witcher 1
Yeah it was a real step back.
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>>389175298
>Except the entire reason why their cosmos exists.
Because Moorecuck invented the idea of alternate universes, oh, wait, he didn't.
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>>389174770
They'll make something Witcher. People are reading what they want to read in their panic when CDPR clearly just said Geralt's story is over. Might be a while seeing as they're probably tired of Withcer after what, 12 years of constant development?
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>That one autist who cant stand people liking stuff
Never change /v/
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>>389174850
>Why would you want that? They peaked with the second game. Now the more they do the worse it gets.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>389175492
>Not one difficult choice
Stopped reading
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>>389175491
ME! I played and loved Witcher 1 when i was in highschool, many winters ago
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>>389174974
>They literally did not. Care to find me a source where they did? That's what I thought.
kek it's on the first page of google

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-confirmed-for-linux-steamos.3861/

>inb4 you blame Gaben instead of Marcin
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>>389175342
>One, that is weak bait.
Ain't bait if it's the truth. Sorry to trigger you.
>Two, that is shit art of Elric, Robert Gould or go home. Everyone else does shit "albino barbarian" art.
Love the Gould. But there are others who do him justice.
>would not know what plagiarism is if it smacked him in the face, spun him around, and fucked him up the ass.
He's been on the receiving end of it for years now. Hello Games Workshop.
>>389175492
>>389175520
>Moorcock didn't invent the concept of a multiverse.
Actually, he sort of is. The way we understand multiverse and crossovers now, is by way of Alan Moore in his Captain Britain run who got the idea from, you guessed it, Michael Moorcock.
And that wasn't even what i was referring to.
Conjunction of Spheres plebeians. Read some books in your life for once.
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>>389175491
Me I guess? I've even played the TW1 mods.
But honestly on /v/ the games are overrated.
They are great, but not as great as people here make them.
Still not as overrated as the new Zelda.
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>>389174219
>>389175013
There must always be a Bioware.
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>>389175491
Aye.
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>>389175586
Iocasta a good basilisk she dindu nuffin she was scared
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>>389175683
>SteamOS

Yeah seems to me like it's on Gabe. They have NEVER said ANYTHING about a Linux version for TW3. But for a brainlet like you a banner appearing on Steam for like 10 minutes is a confirmation?
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Swear to Melitele they're going to announce a new Witcher game with a young Vesimir as protag.
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>>389174941
>muh bioware
>muh biodrones

shut the fuck up you broken record retard
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>>389174941
>I cringed when he looked right at the camera.

How come? I thought the dialogue right before that signaled that such a thing was coming, so it wasn't unexpected.
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>>389175484
In RPGs? Obsidian is ok.

>>389175491
They lost me with Blood and Wine do I still count?

>>389175829
This. TW1 was just book fanservice and TW3 is mediocre outside its produciton values. Only truly great game in the series was TW2.
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Which would you rather have, /v/?

CDPR making a new game in the world of the Witcher in a different genre

-OR-

CDPR aking a new RPG in a different setting?
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>>389175491
uhh, any chance you've got screenshots from the early Aurora builds?
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>>389176097
CDPR making a new RPG in a diff setting
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>>389171609
>They went full Bioware
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>>389175581
In a market economy it's only natural you want people to like what you like and dislike what you dislike. Otherwise companies won't make the products you want. The apparent popularity of Blood and Wine and TW3 in general guarantees CDPR will never make another game I like. Why shouldn't I be annoyed?
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Played Witcher at release, couldn't get into it but I did get into it the second try and I love it played it many times by now

Witcher 3 tho is fucking shit it ruined the series

>Wild Hunt is not a villain who truly understands you and gets in your head like in the first game
>Nothing game out of the "Geralt is a rider of the Hunt " revelation
>No conclusion for the Scoi'atel something the first two games focused a lot of time now.
>Northern politics is all gone It's just Radovid and he's sitting on a boat surrounded by two guards, he's the only factor in the game
>None of the choices in Witcher 2 matter, even though the different ending boards for Witcher 2 told you they would
>constant fedora tipping and black and white morals
>Triss changes personality between each game
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>>389175342
>Robert Gould or go home

Saying that when Moorcuck said that he was inspired by Yoshitaka Amanos art while creating the book and its world. Even going so far as to say that Amanos illustrations he did for the jap realese of the elric saga where the most accurate ones out of all the other artists imaginations of Elric. Wew fucking lad.
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>>389175492
Weak.
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>>389173057
>video game "captured" his heart
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>>389176243

This is bait right?
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>>389175809
>Conjunction of Spheres plebeians. Read some books in your life for once
I've read better books than Elric (or the Witcher for that matter) and again, it's not that big a deal. Conjunction of Spheres is an homage at best, not a ripoff, given how little significance it has to the actual plot of the Witcher.
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>>389176097
the latter desu
TW's setting is GOAT and I like CDPR's version of it more than Sapkowski's, but i can't see it work as anything that isn't a witcher-centered RPG
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>>389176248
>Saying that when Moorcuck said that he was inspired by Yoshitaka Amanos art while creating the book and its worl
No he didn't. Elric is older than Amano's work. He could have been inspired afterwards with the latter novels but not at the beginning.
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>>389176059
>How come?
I hate fourth wall breaks, especially maudlin ones.
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>>389176069
>Only truly great game in the series was TW2.

The final act didn't have enough side activities or reach, you didn't do things outside the ruins, you didn't learn enough about the past.
When the "conclusion" comes, you didn't have enough evidence to see things without them being told to you, felt like a B movie "twist", ending with an exposition.
Also there wasn't a conclusion to most of the plot, a lot of threads left untied. You could even skip the last boss fight.

I know it was released when they run out of money, so they had to release, but it really did need more work.
And a more personal nitpick - I hated the console specific shit like jumping/climbing being tied to context, you can't even jump over a fence unless you run into it for the X button to appear or whatever it was.
You can make a console game without these sacrifices, for fucks sake.
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>>389176343
>Conjunction of Spheres is an homage at best, not a ripoff, given how little significance it has to the actual plot of the Witcher.
What? The entire reason why monsters and elves exist in that universe and how Ciri's plane hopping bullshit powers work is of little significance?
Wew laddie
>I've read better books than Elric
So have I. Doesn't change the fact that Sapkowski is a hack that hates your guts.
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>>389176069
Kill yourself
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>>389176243
I thought seeing ballroom pro Triss being paid to kill rats in a warehouse was a 10/10 moment, her humbling and having her lead a gang of refugees developer her nicely.
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>>389176469
The enhanced edition added some quests, but chapter 3 still feels short yes

>you didn't have enough evidence to see things without them being told to you

Yes that was intendented. You learn how manipulative and deceitful Letho is trough the game, it's up to you wether you trust him or kill him.

Witcher 3 never should have brought Letho back to make him "a bro", but that's the least of the shitpile that's Witcher 3 problems

>felt like a B movie "twist",

There was no twist ending , wtf you're talking about
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>>389176243
You know most of that Wild Hunt backstory stuff doesn't even trigger in TW2 anymore? I swear they patched it out so people wouldn't realize it comes to nothing in TW3.

>>389176313
He's right.

>>389176469
>The final act didn't have enough side activities or reach, you didn't do things outside the ruins, you didn't learn enough about the past.
It was too short I agree, but I always cared about main quest stuff more than side quest stuff.

>When the "conclusion" comes, you didn't have enough evidence to see things without them being told to you, felt like a B movie "twist", ending with an exposition.
How many times did you play it? On a replay there's tons of foreshadowing starting from the very beginning and hints of what was going on .Game was designed to be played twice.

>Also there wasn't a conclusion to most of the plot, a lot of threads left untied
In theory that's fine because they were settign up for a sequel but you're right when the sequel doesn't resolve any of them it makes it shit in retrospect.

> You could even skip the last boss fight.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Shit what if none of the witcher games were actually good
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>>389176691
>her humbling and having her lead a gang of refugees developer her nicely.

Her becoming a heroic and noble leader of mages all of a sudden is not a good development. She never was that type of character not even in the books.
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>>389176469
>Final act didn't have any side activities
Gay opinion
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>>389176694
>There was no twist ending , wtf you're talking about

I mean the discrepancy between what you knew/what was in your journal and what happened.
You were given 5 pieces of a large puzzle, and in the end it turns out not only were you missing pieces, it was the wrong puzzle too.
Gerals was really out of it, and the player was out of it, the events and conflicts being closed in the end were foreign to me and the character.
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>>389176694
>Yes that was intendented. You learn how manipulative and deceitful Letho is trough the game, it's up to you wether you trust him or kill him.
What in the final conversation is false or even ambiguous?

>>389176590
>The entire reason why monsters and elves exist in that universe and how Ciri's plane hopping bullshit powers work is of little significance? Wew laddie
In the books? Yeah, actually, it is. Monster hunting is barely present in the books in the first place and all that really matters is that people want Ciri, not why.
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>>389176469
if you take the henselt route during the second act then the third act is like playing the game with half the script missing. i barely had any idea what the fuck was going in during the final act and there not much of what i was doing had any relevance to the events.

i didn't even find out who the dragon was until browsing a /v/ thread after playing it. and i can't be arsed replaying that game because almost everything in it is a step backwards from the witcher 1./
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>>389176708
>You know most of that Wild Hunt backstory stuff doesn't even trigger in TW2 anymore?
What?
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>>389172654
Where's Djikstra?
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>>389176708
You know most of that Wild Hunt backstory stuff doesn't even trigger in TW2 anymore? I swear they patched it out so people wouldn't realize it comes to nothing in TW3.

lmao, what!? Do you have any detail on what was removed
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>>389176801
Or in the previous game even.

>character development
Show, don't tell.

>>389176818
I still don't get what you mean. Maybe I've played it too much? What was missing?
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>>389176370
My bad, i meant japanese art that was similiar to amanos. Just checked the interview i was refering to. The latter statement about amanos illustrations is still true.
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>>389176708
>How many times did you play it? On a replay there's tons of foreshadowing starting from the very beginning and hints of what was going on .Game was designed to be played twice.

Two playthroughs near its release, two more before TW3 released, to check the two branches in the middle.
And the end still feels like they forgot to put in 5-6 side quests and cutscenes.
Like the director shot a 3 hour movie, and the publisher said they need a 120 minute cut for the cinema.
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>>389176871
>and i can't be arsed replaying that game because almost everything in it is a step backwards from the witcher 1./
A step sideways. They're different subgenres. One's an ARPG, one's not. The only thing I'd say was an actual step backwards instead of just different was the alchemy. TW1 had the best alchemy system by far and they never did reclaim that.

>>389176904
You know how closer to release you can get notes and crap from the Asylum in Flotsam and other places and talk to various NPCs about them to piece together clues about the Wild Hunt? Most of those no longer trigger in the game.
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>>389176691
TW3 Triss is a terrible character. She has nothing to do with TW2 or book Triss
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>>389176912
Dead.
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>>389176923
>lmao, what!? Do you have any detail on what was removed
You can no longer tlak to Dandelion about the Isle of Avallach, Roche about the Hunt notes from the asylum, and usually can't bring up the Song of the hunt. I think Cynthia can stlll be talked to about the Wild Hunt Investigator's notes but that's about it.
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>>389176912
Dijkstra isn't a fanservice character so he's not included.

>>389177140
Triss is only in character in the second game. I'll never get why they kept giving her shit to do in TW3.
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>>389176832
>What in the final conversation is false or even ambiguous?

You are not supposed to know. His purpose there was to get you to leave him alone without outright killing you because of your history. I didn't take everything he said for granted, he didn't either.

In Witcher 3 the main writer of Witcher 2 is gone, so that point is lost anyway.

I get what people are saying that 20 minute dialogue is a bad way to wrap a story up ,but I think they did a good job. Way better job of wrapping up than TW3 did
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>>389177015
>The latter statement about amanos illustrations is still true.
Of course it is. Amano really did enjoy Moorcock's work. So much so that he was commissioned to create the Japanese covers of alot of Moorcock novels that were reused for Millenniums omnibus collection.
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>>389172490
>bitching about Witcher 3 graphics

Top kek, did any of you fags even run that game at 1440p+ ultra settings? it looks amazing.

Sure it might look like dogshit on consoles but I don't give a shit
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>>389176952
>I still don't get what you mean. Maybe I've played it too much? What was missing?

I don't remember lines or set pieces, I remember the feeling.
Every time I felt like I missed out on so much content, despite knowing the missing stuff simply isn't in the game.
Like when you go to the ruins, you start with the ancient civilization there, what wiped them, etc. You have the empire sorcerer, the assassins/torture, etc. The new info and new conflicts you are given aren't addressed in the end, instead some different ones that you haven't engaged in with all, are presented and resolved in 10 minutes.
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>>389176243
Most of your complaints were due to cut content unfortunately. They were supposed to have a questline where Geralt infiltrates the Wild Hunt, and Scoia'tael were supposed to be in Novigrad through Iorveth
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>>389177283
>TW2 ends with a long conversation questioning whether the main antagonist is even a villain
>TW3 ends with the White Frost dying on the way back to its home planet
we can agree on that much
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>>389172490
>brown + vignette
>amazing atmosphere
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>>389172490
>>389177320
>hurrr durrr why are Witcher 3 graphics only 11/10 instead of 12/10

Complain about the million of other issues instead.
Visuals and sound the game did GREAT.
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>>389171609
Best series ever. All three games are diamond quality.

TW comfiest
TW2 best setpieces and most replayable
TW3 best story and everything else

I'm glad they didn't forget to add Priscilla in the cinematic. Her quest didn't get real closure.
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>>389177320
No, the lighting is still flat and shitty on the PC. It's why people need to mod it with STLM or something similar.
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>>389173642
>And the Biowareification of the script.
what
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>>389177346
So you just mean Act 3 is short and rushed? Yeah I agree. I'm willing to forgive that more because at least the whole thing is tightly plotted as fuck, and the company was almost bankrupt when it came out. When they got the console money they just shit out Skyrim combined with a well acted soap opera so I'm less forgiving when it comes to later efforts.
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>>389177293
Yes, too bad the newer reprints don't feature his work. Authors really should have full control over who illustrates their covers.
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>>389171609
I didn't even finish the blood and wine expansion on ps4. Good game, put a few hundred hours in it, but I just can't play it for long periods of time without getting irritable at how purposefully awful Geralt is to control. Also the game is like 80 gigs + half that to install on ps4 it's just not worth keeping around if you need the space for more games.
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>>389177362
Their priorities were fucked and I blame them for the cuts, which they showed no interest in addressing. I'd trade Blood and Wine or even Hearts of Stone away in a second for a real main plot.
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>>389177504
Fuck you
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>>389177320
>>389177438
>the apologists are still here
are you paid? I don't get it. What do you get out of this?

>>389177456
I can complain about all of them at once.

>>389177480
>TW3 best story
are you high
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>>389177616
>Cutscene lighting
Yeah that's good, I play that modded in for regular gameplay. But vanilla gameplay lighting is shit
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>>389177567
Does the ps4 not have an alternate controls option? The released that on PC right after launch and it removes the tank controls
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>>389177730
That's not a cutscene, it's a conversation
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>>389177514
All ambiguity is gone. The whole script is a power trip for a self insert main character and his waifus, like a Bioware game. Only exception is the Bloody Baron stuff in Velen. Presumably because it's the first thing they worked on.
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>the angry children who were threatening to get lawyers to sue CDPR for the bullshots in /v/ threads are STILL salty about TW3
sad really
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>>389177559
>Yes, too bad the newer reprints don't feature his work.
Gollancz did Moorcock justice but the way the covers are done are pure trash.

Doesn't matter.
Centipede Press might be doing another omnibus collection of Moorcock's Eternal Champion series starting with Elric and it's going to be fucking glorious.
Art gallore, new interviews and a proper hardcover edition. They're gonna go full HAM on this. Pic fucking related.
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>>389177801
... Those are cutscenes you fucking retard
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>>389177412
>TW3 ends with the White Frost dying on the way back to its home planet

By completely breaking the lore and the prophecy and everything the book saga is based on, because they were pressured to have some kind of closure? Worse ending than Mass Effect 3
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>>389177796
Yeah that's what I used and he gets easier to control but stays just as clunky. I hate that he continues moving and adjusting himself long after you've stopped touching the analogue sticks no matter what control you use.
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>>389177846
No they aren't, you absolute mong
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>>389177801
The conversations use cutscene lighting and higher detailed models.

>>389177818
That was just one of many lies. A smart consume remembers these things.
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>>389177870
>By completely breaking the lore and the prophecy and everything the book saga is based on, because they were pressured to have some kind of closure? Worse ending than Mass Effect 3
Don't forget how nonsensical Empress Ciri is because we gotta have choices but actually thinking them out is too hard.
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>>389177892
They literally are. When you go into dialogue the game triggers a different lighting env. Called cutscene lighting. Also just because you get to control what Geralt says doesn't make it not a cutscene. It simply and definitively is. You're just a retard for not understanding
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>>389177516
You are mad that TW3 is very diluted, spread too think? Me too.
But I don't think its the "open world" that did it. First, its not full open world, its zones like TW2, just much larger. Second they still had the traditional quest hubs for a more concentrated experience, and longer quest chains.
The Skyrim tier content was mostly optional and between the hubs.

I agree with you in principle, I just don't think its as bad as you make it sound.
TW3 and TW2 are about in the same level for me, all things considered. They have different philosophies obviously, but I think they are of similar craftsmanship and quality.
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>>389177903
Regardless, the game looks amazing, especialy considering it's been out for a while. Facial expressions are also the best I've seen so far in any game, material in conversations looks so real you can almost touch it

Leave it to /v/ autists to Always find something to bitch about though
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>>389177709
Well TW2 had the 'best' story in terms of intricacy of the plot, but TW3 had several top tier plots and subplots.
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>>389177362
It's a silly point really, they had all these useless quests that contributed absolutely nothing, and they had new models for these quests and voice actors.

How come Witcher 2 managed to wrap things up in 20 minute conversation, but there's nothing in Witcher 3 even after all that work was done on the DLC? The writers are terrible and do a shit job, it's not for lack of time
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>>389177810
Mate, you are so fucking wrong it hurts. Bloody Baron and Velen was one of the last areas to be developed.
Skellige Islands were the first areas to be developed.

And there was no ambiguity gone. Pretty much every witcher contract had ambiguous characters and the final choice you had to make always had draw backs, there was no "evil" or "good" options. Every sidequest was the same. Eredin was fucking retarded but that's because they had to adapt him to the american mass market appeal.
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>>389178006
Or how in the books they had a fake Ciri who took the place as Emhyr's daughter, but it's pretty much ignored in the games and no one bats an eye at real Ciri entering the picture.
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>>389173941
>Read more about financial results!!

Why the fuck should any consumer care about this stuff? Like seriously, its like you cucks love to feel jews cock in your butthole or something.
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>>389178037
>But I don't think its the "open world" that did it.
What did then, if not the determination to make it bigger than Skyrim?

> First, its not full open world, its zones like TW2, just much larger.
If TW3 isn't open world what the fuck is?
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>>389178035
>Also just because you get to control what Geralt says doesn't make it not a cutscene.

I'm pretty sure interactivity makes it a non-cutscene.
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>>389178160
How is it open world, when you have to visit a level selection screen and select which level you want to teleport to?
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>>389178125
>every sidequest was the same
Leave already
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>>389172490
thanks consoles
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>>389178139
it's almost like you're held at gunpoint to follow up on that link or something
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>>389178074
>but TW3 had several top tier plots and subplots.
It had some great emotional moments but there's maybe one good plot in the vanilla game. I'm really not at all sure what you're talking about. There barely even were any subplots. Surely you're not talking about Radovid's lubdubbing?

>>389178106
>How come Witcher 2 managed to wrap things up in 20 minute conversation, but there's nothing in Witcher 3 even after all that work was done on the DLC? The writers are terrible and do a shit job, it's not for lack of time
Because they realized waifus are a cheaper alternative to good writing.
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That was actually nice.

Developers these days don't care about their franchises or things they work on past just getting it out the door and getting a profit.

Even Konami ignored the anniversary of MGS and do the complete opposite and insult the game series with terrible spin off and pachinko machines.

So in this day and age getting a fully original voiced cinematic that is purely just a thank you to the people who played the games through the years is leagues above anything any other developers would do for their fans.

Thanks CD Projekt Red.
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>>389178216
You leave. Been visiting witcher threads since before you knew what a computer was faggot.

Tired of your cynical "everything is shit and ruined" shitposting. Go kill yourself, kid.
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test
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>>389174469
This, dumb fucking whiny cunts, Witcher 3 dlc's were the best dlc's I had in any game
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>>389178125
First shown =/= first developed.

>And there was no ambiguity gone. Pretty much every witcher contract had ambiguous characters and the final choice you had to make always had draw backs, there was no "evil" or "good" options. Every sidequest was the same. Eredin was fucking retarded but that's because they had to adapt him to the american mass market appeal.
It's like we played entirely different games.
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>Every single person in the entire world keeps a journal they've updated right until the time of their death.
>Not a single person is ever seen writing in it.
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>>389178338
I don't give a shit what you've visited you're a dumb fucking cynical cunt who can only speak in hyperboles.

Leave
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>>389178209
You only have to do that to go to Skellige because it's not contiguous. Is Oblivion not open world because the Shivering Isles are behind a portal? Is Morrowind not open world because you can't walk to Mournhold?
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>>389178461
Do you even hear what you are saying retard?
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>>389178280
Way to dodge the question fucko.
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>>389178393
that is public info from a conference a CDPR developer on the witcher series gave back in either 2015 or 2016 in Poland. He said Skellige was the first area to be developed. His words, not mine.
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>>389178330
>Developers these days don't care about their franchises or things they work on past just getting it out the door and getting a profit.
Neither does CDPR, they've just learned to out Bioware Bioware. Idiots like you see this saccharine two minute fanpandering and think "CDPR loves me. Yes, me, personally." and will hand them 60 bucks for whatever they shit out in the future because of it. The cost/benefit to shit like this is through the roof.
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>>389178487
Not true, you need to teleport to the Empire palace, however it was called. To the starting area, the orchards.
I don't remember all the zones, but there are places you need to teleport to.
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>>389172490
>e3 photo is 90% brown with decent draw distance
>in game photo has lots of color and long range fog
>somehow e3 photo is better
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>>389178360
Hearts of Stone was great, Blood and Wine was insultingly bad.

>>389178515
In that case I can't understand why that part was so much better than the rest.
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>>389178596
Clearly CDPR raped this anons mom
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>>389178609
So Morrowind and Oblivion aren't open world.
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>>389178721
>Skellige so much better than the rest
You're just being contrarian at this point. Skellige is the shittiest part of Witcher 3 by a mile.
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>>389178721
Witcher 3 was revamped several times.Maybe they did create the terrain for Skelige first, but the things that went on that terrain like monster/loot/quest placement were the least thought off
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>>389178816
>but what about...
Be like that if you want, I stated my case, neutral readers can consider it.
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>>389178836
>You're just being contrarian at this point. Skellige is the shittiest part of Witcher 3 by a mile.
I was talking about Velen. I assumed Velen must have been best because it got the most polish but if Skellige was worked on the longest then I have no fucking idea.
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>>389178816
Well technically, no. Each interior is separately loaded cell and outdoors is also divided into cells that are streamed on the fly.
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>>389178596
>Neither does CDPR, they've just learned to out Bioware Bioware

Except Bioware was always terrible. CD Projekt Red were only for the Witcher 1
>and think "CDPR loves me. Yes, me, personally."
>reading comprehension
>literally said it's for their fans
How is it not. It clearly is. The game already sold millions and it's going as cheap as 10£ these days for the full edition.

Does everything for you cunts have to narrow down to money when there are those who have average income and can easily purchase it without a dent in my wallet expenses?
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>>389178934
So what games are open world? I'm not memeing, I seriously want to know.
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>>389179008
Just Cause 2. Not even joking.
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>>389178982
I just want a good game and I'm sad CDPR doesn't make those anymore.

>Except Bioware was always terrible.
I didn't say they weren't but thanks for saying that. Downfall of Bioware posting gets annoying. Their writing was always shit

>MUH WINGS
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>>389171609
I-is that best girl!??
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>>389179113
Clearly you are in the minority anyway
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>>389179201
>Clearly you are in the minority anyway
Yes that's what's so vexing about it.
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>>389178905
Skellige being the first area to be developed doesn't mean it's the area that got the most amount of work.

I'm actually baffled that people on /v/ of all places don't know that RPG development usually starts out in reverse - developers start by creating the final areas of the game and leave the starting areas for very last - because only at the end of the project do they know for sure what systems they have in place to properly teach them to the player.
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>>389179113
Just because you don't like something it doesn't mean it's bad. It just means you don't like it.
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>>389179292
I'm pretty sure TW3 at one point was meant to be playable in any order given how the quests are structured.

>>389179310
What's your point? TW3's plot is objectively bad, come on.
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>>389179248
Because you got a subjectice opinion and is bitching you are the only one

fuck off
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I'm glad the series ended on a pitch-perfect note as it rose in greatness with every instalment. This is how you should do a trilogy and how all franchises should be treated.

Shame about another hero who was denied his final episode...
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>>389179428
On a scale of 1-10 how much do you like the Twilight series of books/films
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I see Witcher haters are still in full force 2 years after release. Still trying to force the BioWare meme.

I mean I have no doubt that Cyberpunk 2077 will be shit because CDPR grew so much as a company that they most likely lost the culture they had, but Witcher 3 was still a great game.
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>>389171609
still hoping CDprojektred will do a new Vampire the masquerade game after cyberpunk
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>>389171609
>Ciri sneaks up on Triss at :41
>Yennifer saw her coming
That's why she's best girl. Trissfags are kidding themselves.
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>>389178125
>and the final choice you had to make always had draw backs, there was no "evil" or "good" options

Uhm.. anon did you play the game? First time playing the game really beat me over the head about how evil Radovid is , how evil the church is, how much better leader Cerys would be. I mean I counted like five Hitler allusions, ending with Radovid marching off the innocent circus elves to concentration camps. And I was like, maybe there's more to it, I won't get involved in Radovids assassination and I will chose Hjalmar
Then you get an ending where white Orchard is on fire, people are marched into houses to be burned alive, everything is shit, then even the ending board tells you of Radovids holocaust.
Not really subtle at all this game.
I liked Witcher 2 because you couldn't claim to be more morally just than Letho, Geralt was participating in a siege and killing random soldiers just because he was too much of a coward to tell Foltest and his advisor Triss to fuck off
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>>389179520
>I'm glad the series ended on a pitch-perfect note as it rose in greatness with every instalment.
but that's wrong

>>389179539
> I see Witcher haters are still in full force 2 years after release. Still trying to force the BioWare meme.
I was an apologist two years ago.
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>>389171609
Why is Ciri such a GOOD GIRL!
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>>389179528
>Muh Twillight
Bet you are one of those fags that kept posting
>Still a better love story that Twillight
Years after it got old
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>>389179651
Because they rewrote her to be inoffensive.
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>>389177810
Examples? Be specific you are being very vague with buzzwords and trying to fit in with Bioware hate when it is irrelevant
>>389177846
They are rendered completely different from cutscenes you idiot.
>>389179420
>provides no real counters or examples of shitty writing
>thinks "old Bioware" was top tier at writing.
Baldurs Gate series writing and Bioware writing in general was always a joke compared to writing of Studios like Looking Glass and Black Isle back in the day.

Even Obsidian wrote circles around them with KOTOR 2.
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>lighting failure at 1:05
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>>389179638
>but that's wrong
Oh? Care to explain?
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>>389179638
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DISLIKE
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>>389179638
>I was an apologist two years ago.

what changed?
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>>389179651
psssh...
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>>389179750
She's so sassy tho!
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>>389179773
>Examples? Be specific you are being very vague with buzzwords and trying to fit in with Bioware hate when it is irrelevant
You're right, I just got tired of making these arguments ages ago so I don't put any effort anymore. Just came back for the stream. I probably shouldn't be posting at all given I'm not making my points well, I'm just sad that things didn't go at all the way I wanted but everyone else is pleased. Which means this is always what will happen.

This anon touches on some of what i'd say, I'll let him carry on: >>389179623
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>>389179651
>dirty whore
>bloodthirsty murderer

>good girl
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>>389179623
Radovid isn't Hitler at all. He puts his nation's security above all else and is willing to fuck magic users in the ass if that is the price he has to pay, since they fucked him so hard in the past. In the end you have to choose if you're willing to let the entire Northern Kingdoms be conquered by Emhyr and have all those people lose their homeland, or sacrifice sorceresses (who are cunts anyway) and fuck Emhyr.

Hjalmar isn't a coward and is willing to do anything to protect his people. he's the ultimate bro. Cerys thinks too much and is kind of retarded. In this case it was a choice between immediate action which would save Skellige or a more caution oriented leader like Cerys.
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Are Iorvethfags still buttmad?
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I'm still waiting for the Enhanced/Director's Cut for Witcher 3
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>>389171609
I got my perfect ending and moved on, why do they have reopen these wounds
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>>389179773
>>provides no real counters or examples of shitty writing
>>thinks "old Bioware" was top tier at writing.
And I never said that. Bioware has never been good at writing.
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I fully expect there's going to be more games set in the Witcher universe. Just not ones featuring Geralt as a protag. Which is a good thing because his story is unequivocally fucking done, just let him rest.
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Ciri adventures spinoff please
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>>389178721
>Blood and Wine was insultingly bad
It was better than anything in the base game, and everything in it save for the plot was better than HoS.
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>>389179651
>Ciri ever controlling her magic powers
hearty kek
whoever made this is a retard
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>>389172490

>2013 trailer is made before the announcement of the consoles specs, when every dev and consoletard still believed they would be overpowered and would compete with PCs for years
>game is launched after that, when they realized the new consoles are weak even in the standards of high end PCs years before the 2013 trailer

You do know that, but of course you will ignore this fact because you don't want to expose the truth, only shit on the franchise everybody likes becayse you are a dumb hipster.
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>>389179623
It beats you over the head with how evil Radovid is if you made certain decisions in the game. The first time any politics are mentioned Vesemir says he sides with the North and Radovid
>how evil the church is
I mean they were founded by a man who went mad from his Elder Blood, what do you expect? They are a cult revolving around the end times.
>five Hitler allusions
THE GAME IS FUCKING POLISH OF FUCKING COURSE IT WILL CRITICIZE HITLER OR THE USSR
>he didn't explore all dialogue options with Hjalmar
Oh fuck off.
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>>389180103
just let the franchise rest
fuck faggots who want Ciri as a protag or "make your own character"
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>>389180019
You shut your whore mouth scum!
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>>389180025
>Cerys ... is kind of retarded
Though not as much as Hjalmar...
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>>389179885
>what changed?
I realized they were never going to fix the game with an enhanced edition. After that I started looking at things differently and realized that a lot of what I was arguing with haters over was disingenuous and I was arguing to convince myself as much as to convince them. Ciri really is a Mary Sue, at least in the games. Radovid really is a cardboard madman. Characters were simplified to avoid challenging the player. There is an objective good vs bad side in the war, the way its portrayed in game.

Once the scales tipped on one thing it really changed my perspectives.
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>>389172445
You are insane.
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>>389177616
How do people think this looks good? It looks like shit.
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>>389180025
How does Radovid beat Nilfgaard without mage help? How does Radovid get into Novigrad? How does killing every herbalist or doctor in existence help the North?

>>389180028
>>389180028
You'll be a spooky skellington before its released.
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> Hop on
w-what did ciri mean by this?
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>>389172445
lol
second one has fuckhuge amounts of dithering to start with
fuck off retard
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>>389180187
I liked the franchise at one point
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>>389180209
Its the (((Current Year))). No franchise ever truly ends anymore. It would make no sense from a business perspective to stop milking that shit now.
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>>389180368
Doesn't Radovid literally win the war if you let him live?
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>>389180207
>I mean they were founded by a man who went mad from his Elder Blood, what do you expect?
The Eternal Fire cult predates Alvin, who is barely even mentioned in TW3.
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>>389171609
>later that night
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>>389174961

Who gives a fuck about secure and confident women? Are you gay?

What I want is a cute girl with low self-steem thisrty for my cock, and needy both financially and emotionally.
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>>389180605
DEELETE! Ciri is NOT for LEWDS!
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>>389180286
>tfw can't even tell which side of the argument this pic is supposed to support
They really butchered Triss's face in the final game.

>>389180579
Yes he does. And there's never the slightest hint how he managed it. TW3 is tell, don't show: the game.
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>>389180441
>dithering

Is that the name of the issue with the shadow ?
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>>389180667
>he doesn't want a confident and independent gf he can beat into submission and then fuck her rough in the ass every night
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Reminder that there's a comic series that took place after the Witcher 3 that finished a couple months back called A Curse of Crows
Give it a read if you haven't already
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The lesson to be learned here is that games aren't art and will never tell an adult story. Anyone expecting either of those things to happen is delusional.
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>>389180019
How is she a whore? Her first time consent was very iffy (plus it was a chick).

The only other person she ever fucked was the pure Ser Galahad
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>>389180803
>comics
into the trash
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>>389180868
FUCKING DELET THIS RIGHT NOW

GALAHAD IS PURE
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>>389180025
You're really ignoring what the game was all about, play it in detail

Radovid and the Church were not hunting the sorceress responsible for Foltests death or Demavends death. That's not even mentioned, maybe in the log entry. You can't even confront Philipa about it or anyone else. No one makes the case why witch hunting is justified .

It's never mentioned.Hell,radovid invaded Kaedwen and killed Henslet causing evenmore chaos.

What you do get is a lot of innocent herbalists, alchemists, get burned alive because of
a fanatical veil religon. Shani even says the medics are next after Radovid wins the war. Radovid is presented as a mumbling lunatic, and the epilogue makes it clear in the simplest of terms why it was a bad decision to let Radovid leave. It's not black and white at all
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>>389180708
yes
it's textures to be more precise but it's noticeable when there are shadows
that retard probably thinks this looks good

>>389180695
What do you mean "how he manages it"? Radovid is one of the most brilliant tacticians in the witcher universe, and the Lodge of Sorceresses isn't exactly tight with Emhyr as is obvious from the main plot.
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>>389180695
The side that has SSS, better hair illumination, proper eye reflectives, softer contrast and doesn't look like fucking plastic. People who think TW2 looks better lack some serious core aesthetic and technical sense, being fooled so easily by extensive image sharpening.
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>>389179558
>>389180286
Literally cannot understand why anyone would pick Triss over Yen.
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3>2>1

If you think anything else you are just a contrarian faggot.
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>>389180934
>No one makes the case why witch hunting is justified .
try playing Witcher 2
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>>389180868
> How is she a whore?
She literally fucks any guy who shows slightest of interest.
Another example is Skjall.
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>>389181058
3>1>2
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Did they have to end it so fucking hard?
>Geralt can die
>Ciri can die
>Vesemir dies
>Kaer Mohren is disbanded basically
>No new witchers cause a Bloo Bloo despite the world desperately needing them
>Elves and Dwarfs basically gone
>Wild Hunt destroyed
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>>389181058
3>1>2
if you think otherwise you're retarded
and a faggot
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>>389180690
yeah whatever, you can have her once I'm done with her
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>>389180934
>You can't even confront Philipa about it or anyone else
Might confuse people who started with The Witcher 3: Best Place to Start The Series

>>389180965
>What do you mean "how he manages it"? Radovid is one of the most brilliant tacticians in the witcher universe
Yes. We're told this over and over again. We never see this, but the writers assure us it's the case. This is bad writing.

>and the Lodge of Sorceresses isn't exactly tight with Emhyr as is obvious from the main plot.
The Lodge of Sorceresses had 9 members at its peak. Most mages aren't Lodge members or even affiliated iwth them. Only two of the Lodge members were Nilfgaardians. Nilfgaard has mages of its own with no affiliation with the Lodge. Many of them.

Radovid went into a war against an enemy with nukes after crapping his entire airforce. and won.

>it's a diehard Witcher fan turns out to have only played the last game episode
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>>389180967
I was just saying you could have picked a better comparison image. Triss has the worst face in TW3
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>>389181184
>>389180605
>>389180379
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>>389171609
>henrietta grabs ciri since they're related
cute
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It's bizarre to see the series I've read since I've been 14 to get revived and then end. Not to mention now I look at it differently now that it's not a 'local' thing or something. I'm glad it succeeded though.

On that note, all of your shitposting ain't shit compared to the discussions my family had over which book was better, just so you know.
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>>389181058
>>389181125
>>389181183

2>Hearts of Stone>3>>>Blood and Wine=1

>>389181164
Damn you're a softy. The ending pulled a ton of punches.

>world desperately needs witchers
kek
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>>389181426
>On that note, all of your shitposting ain't shit compared to the discussions my family had over which book was better, just so you know.
Well the books are a much richer experience than the games so I imagine so.

Sword of Destiny>all
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>>389181186
>Yes. We're told this over and over again. We never see this, but the writers assure us it's the case. This is bad writing.
What do you want, a cutscene so you can complain about the game being a movie or a quest where Geralt is part of a squad of soldiers for whatever retarded reason?

>Radovid went into a war
My friend, I advise you to replay the series. Radovid isn't the aggressor you utter mong.
Also
>what is dimeritium
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>>389171609
there has never been a videogame that affected my life as much as W3 did, the production value behind it is through the roof.game of the generation
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>>389174493
Her name is Roach
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>>389181426
This isn't reddit where we all blogpost about our family discussions, just so you know.
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>>389174893
>no Iorveth
dropped
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>>389171609
>no roche

geralt invite Ves but not his old pal ?
bullshit
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The guy who came up with the witcher and wrote the books hates the games and calls anybody who played them a fucking retard, refuses to shake their hand.

This is how bad the fucking games are
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>>389179651
guard on the left has absolutely inhuman reaction time
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>>389172654

>Haha, looks like anon finally came out of his room! Take a look everyone!
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>>389181530
>What do you want, a cutscene so you can complain about the game being a movie or a quest where Geralt is part of a squad of soldiers for whatever retarded reason?
I like The Witcher series cutscenes so I wouldn't complain. I'd like to see Radovid come up with and execute a clever plan that fucks Nilfgaard. You need to get over this idea that anyone criticizng your favorite developer just wants to shit on them ebcause they're for an enemy team. Consider I liked this series far more than you ever did at one point.

>My friend, I advise you to replay the series. Radovid isn't the aggressor you utter mong.
I never said who was the aggressor. i said that Radovid, while at war, destroyed his most potent weapons and won anyway. With no explanation beyond "He's mad but also a genius"

>what is dimeritium
An ore that makes mages extremely sick in close proximity. Mages in war in this setting are primarily used as artillery. So, yeah. Not gonna help much.
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>>389180965
TW2 was a glorified techno demo of cdpr's new engine.
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>>389181773
Because he was a dumbass who sold the rights for a flat sum not expecting the series to ever be popular, and missed out on millions on royalties. Look at all the comments he's made regarding the games, it's literally "NOT CANON IF YOU WANT CANON READ MY BOOKS BUY MY BOOKS".
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>>389181757
>geralt invite Ves but not his old pal ?
Geralt liking Roche is a meme and a retcon in TW3 for Brochefags. They never got along in TW2 even on Roche's path.

>>389181773
>The guy who came up with the witcher and wrote the books hates the games and calls anybody who played them a fucking retard, refuses to shake their hand.
He's right.
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>>389181083
Witcher 2 had a different lead writer with a different philosophy that elevated a bit over generic fantasy like Witcher 3.

It's pointless to play it since your decisions don't matter, characters are completely different , and Witcher 3 acts like certain events never happened.

Triss is a brave and noble leader, Radovid is completely insane, mages are the victims, etc etc.
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>>389181757
standing behind yen and shani at the end
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>>389181795
>With no explanation beyond "He's mad but also a genius"
Replay the game. Emhyr was assassinated. With the King dead, morale falls and organization is shattered.

also
>what are spec ops units
see witcher 2

again, go replay it.
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>>389181894
The books are better written than the games. People that think games can tell a good story are all children or idiots.

Sapowski did nothing wrong
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>>389181773
Old fart sold the rights for two bottles of vodka so he's kinda salty now.
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>>389181513
>Well the books are a much richer experience than the games so I imagine so.

Arguable. My father has said that games due to being interactive can draw you in more than a book. That's not to mention Sapkowski's style has it's ups and downs.

>>389181721
Look at the thread then look me in the eye and tell me this is a good, civilized thread where we should adhere to some made-up rules that make you feel superior over which website you go to to jerk off about your opinions. Seriously, do it, I'd love to hear your argument.
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>>389181786
d-delete that
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>>389181979
>Replay the game. Emhyr was assassinated. With the King dead, morale falls and organization is shattered.
He's lost his entire eastern army before Emhyr is assassinated. Emhyr is assassinated BECAUSE he lost the war, not the other way around.

>what are spec ops units
So he won because Roche *teleports behind u*s all the enemy mages and Nilfgaard never thought of employing its own band of commandos despite having been the driving force behind the Scoia'tael in the last war?

God Witcher 3 fags are idiots.
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wha-what's going on in this thread?
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>you will never strap Ciri to an operating table, gently assuring her this will make her a real Witcher as you take your saw to her skull
>you will never gently remove 40% of the mass of her prefrontal lobe, watching in delight as she slowly loses herself as you carve away her higher brain functions
>you will never bathe her and flip her daily to prevent bedsores as she is in recovery
>you'll never see the childish wonder in her eyes when she awakes, essentially an easily stimulated doll for you to play with
>you'll never teach her how to drink from a bottle, or gently spoon mushed up food you chewed yourself into her mouth to feed her
>you'll never tuck her into bed, gently stroking all over her body as she murmurs and falls asleep
>she'll never inquisitively suck on your rock hard cock, licking up precum greedily as a tasty snack and gripping your shaft like a lollipop
>you'll never fuck her ass raw as she sobs into the pillow before putting talcum powder all over it as a punishment for when she's naughty
>you'll never greedily slurp up her drool every morning to wake her up, suckling her cheeks for the sweet nectar
>she'll never call you daddy in her slurred, barely coherent voice as her feebled mind tries to process who you are despite lacking long term memory
>>389181331
you caught me
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>>389181942
>mages are the victims, etc etc.
Well most of them are. TW2 never equated all mages with Philippa's femspiracy. yeah there were assholes like her and Dethmold but then there were just people trying to get by that weren't even that powerful like Felicia Cori and her annoying accent.

This is why TW2 is a step above Tw3.
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>>389174770
Nah Ciri is too OP and kinda has a set of specific endings set for her to finish her storyline.

I think a more tasteful spinoff would be with an open-ended character. My vote would go to a spinoff based on either Eskel or Lambert in a new location. Maybe Lambert (and Keira?) move to Kovir or something and deal with some political shenanigans there, or Eskel travels to central Kaedwen or Cidaris to deal with a very high-value contract.
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>>389182135
Typical discussion about AAA games, shit-flinging, people saying that games that are at least objectively okay are shit. You know, the usual.

Hey, wanna talk about the Witcher?
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>>389182003
>My father has said that games due to being interactive can draw you in more than a book.
they can but TW3 only uses this to cash in on waifufaggotry.
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>>389182209
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>>389182234
I'm gonna drop the hyperbole for a bit despite being one of the biggest detractors in the thread.

TW3 is a very good game but an absolutely terrible sequel. Can we agree on that?
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>>389182135
TW2fags in full autistic screeching mode.
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>>389182114
Emhyr wasn't assassinated because he lost the war retard, he was assassinated after a couple of defeats. War wasn't over yet. Go replay Witcher 3.
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>>389182231
> ciri too op
remember me?
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>>389182231
They'll just make Witcheress ending canon and treat anyone that objects like they did everyoen else that complained about save import scenarios or lack thereof.

>power levels
Fluctuate wildly through the games and the books for basically everyone.
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>>389182003
>Look at the thread then look me in the eye and tell me this is a good, civilized thread where we should adhere to some made-up rules that make you feel superior over which website you go to to jerk off about your opinions. Seriously, do it, I'd love to hear your argument.

M'lady
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>>389182442
It does an absolutely terrible job at concluding a game trilogy, concluding a saga of books, or being a good story on it's own (Because they don't develop their own characters, they just drop in book characters and sometimes make them do things completely out of character)
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>>389181942
Witcher games don't have a "lead writer". Their credits are a mess and theres like 30 different writers and story designers and quest designers. People from Witcher 1 worked on 3.
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>>389182501
>Loses entire army and untold amounts of money
>rapidly evacuating vizima in a panic as your men route around you
>t-the war wasn't technically lost yet
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>>389181757
Roche is there though, far right on the picture, next to Roach
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>>389179623
What's one problem that won't be around in 2070? The elderly and the mages...

BECAUSE WE'RE JUST GONNA KILL 'EM
WE'RE JUST GONNA KILL 'EM

Based Radovid.
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>>389182678
>>Loses entire army and untold amounts of money
>>rapidly evacuating vizima in a panic as your men route around you
[citation needed]
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>>389182658
Agreed.

>Because they don't develop their own characters,
well...Roche is basically theirs and in TW2 he has a character arc and everything. The whole Strenger family drama is pretty nice too but not something they could equal with a player character. But othewise yeah I agree.
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I actually remember buying the first game all those years ago.
When did the time go.
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>>389182328
Again arguable. And considering my mother and aunt got into arguments about whether Triss or Yennefer are better, and considering what's going on with every thread, they sure know their audience. Plus I still enjoyed TW3.

>>389182442
>TW3 is a very good game but an absolutely terrible sequel. Can we agree on that?

I appreciate the honesty and Ican see your point, and from the game series I would admit you're probably right. However from my point of view TW2 was the odd one out because it had no relation to the overarching plot of the...ugh...franchise. As such as plot-hole riddled TW3's plot was it at least offered closure to Geralt and Ciri's story and in a way better way than the book saga did.

>389182594
Don't even deserve a (You), come up with something better than your memery asshat.
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>>389182135
Autism. Pure, unadulterated, autism.
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>>389182764
Listen to the ambient dialogue in Vizima in a Radovid victory ending. Wait sorry, let me put it in terms you can understand

>Play the game retard
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> 200 hours of feels in a image.jpeg
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>>389182660
They actually do have a "lead writer". Each game has it's own credited "lead writer". And the "lead writer"s from last two games were absent from Witcher 3, that's why it was so shit, I mean it didn't even adhere to it's own marketing lines

"DUDE MATURE FANTASY FOR MATURE PEOPLE BLACK AND WHITE CHOICES LMAO"

Fuck off
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>>389182660
>People from Witcher 1 worked on 3.
Very few.

>>389182830
>Again arguable. And considering my mother and aunt got into arguments about whether Triss or Yennefer are better, and considering what's going on with every thread, they sure know their audience.
it may be arguable but why did you choose to argue against the point by using an anecdote that supports it?
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>>389182897
Was Hearts of Stone shit too?

They have a "lead writer", but then they have a different person for "story design", "lead story design", "quest design" and "writers". So go ahead and tell me who's in the lead here. Because I can't imagine a lead writer being higher in the hierarchy than a lead story designer.
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>>389181427
>World is literally infested with monsters Geralt spends weeks taking care of
>Every town is having monster problems of every variety
>Some towns and churches and graveyards literally overrun with monsters
>Monsters interrupting supply lines, taking over entire islands, sinking boats

Yeah the world totally doesn't need more witchers
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>>389182830
>As such as plot-hole riddled TW3's plot was it at least offered closure to Geralt and Ciri's story and in a way better way than the book saga did.
I don't see how a book fan could say this. The White Frost and Empress Ciri are outright insulting. It's like making a LOTR sequel where Frodo comes back to life and gives the ring to Galadriel who becomes the evil queen of Middle Earth.

Wait no I take that back, because that sounds awesome.
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>>389182830
Stop posting now, you can't even properly (you). Even the most retarded newfaggot is able to properly reply.
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>>389182783
Roche and Ves is not theirs, it's from Witcher 2. A game with a different lead writer with a very different philosophies behind it. I would argue that they even ruined Ves by making her act like a child just so they can have a favor for Roche so he can come aid you in Kaer Morhen.
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>>389183078
>Was Hearts of Stone shit too?
Nah it was the exception in the whole Witcher 3 thing and proved that CDPR could have still made vidya kino if they wanted to.
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>>389182209
kill yourself you stupid fuck
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>>389183081
Yeah by TW3 they'd forgotten that people besides witchers hunt monsters and that monsters are on the way out. Gotta make sure hte player feelsl ike they're the most important thing in the world.

>>389183163
>Roche and Ves is not theirs, it's from Witcher 2.
I
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>>389182527
Yeah and that was before she even knew she could fucking teleport, she's had like a decade since then to hone her fighting skills as well as her time/space travel powers.

Any soldier NPC/enemy in the games wouldn't even be a threat, nor would most monsters.
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>>389183078
It's overrated, the writing is messy, the conclusion is as bad and poorly thought out as the original game, Gaunter wasn't nearly as interesting as everyone makes him out to be.

The wedding was great though.
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>>389183163
>Roche and Ves is not theirs, it's from Witcher 2.
I see what you mean now. Sorry.

>I would argue that they even ruined Ves by making her act like a child just so they can have a favor for Roche so he can come aid you in Kaer Morhen.
Roche and Ves switch personalities in TW3. That plus Roche suddenly turns into Geralt's best bro no matter what. It's disorienting.
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>>389183001
I guess I was just making a joke about how much Witcher threads devolve into waifu wars. And to be honest I never noticed much of it in TW3, but perhaps I wasn't really paying attention.

>>389183123
>I don't see how a book fan could say this

Because I've been waiting for an ending like this for a while. I'm biased, what can I say. When you've been reading the series and the book saga is a goddamn slog because the author just wanted to be done with it and writes one of the most insulting endings I've seen, you just look at things differently. You go a few years accepting that was the end then a game pops up. Then another that has plot that has jack shit to do with the overall plot. The third has a shitty ending but it's SOME form of closure. I'm happy with what I got.

>389183150
>Stop posting now, you can't even properly (you)

That's the point, jackass. You don't even deserve that.

Thanks for the (You) by the way.
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>>389171609
>10 years old
wow nearly as old as the cyberpunk 2077 announcement
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>>389183220
Witcher 3/Witcher1/Hearts of Stone
lead writer is the same.
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>>389182565
I mean the Witcher 3 pretty much establishes that Ciri has a consistent ability to teleport, and the Gwent trailer featuring her shows that she has some pretty crazy control over it.
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Geralt's VA really bugs me sometimes. Let's be honest, he was never really that special, but in 2 I feel like he at least managed to do his "neutral" voice pretty well without sounding forced. Then in 3 he suddenly sounds like batman all of a sudden.
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>>389183394
her powers are so arbitrary it'd be pretty easy to make them limited and come up with fun gameplay for them. if you wanted to, anyway.

>teleports behind u
every fucking mage in TW2 does this

>>389183406
Olgierd was the best character in the expansion, not Gaunter. Gaunter just had some fun acting. The conclusion is bad if you do the video game way, yes. The real conclusion is letting Gaunter win though.
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>>389183323
If the writer most responsible for Witcher 2 isn't on the team anymore, It's not their character. They were just picking for leftovers from more talented writers, like they did it for the book
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>>389183545
My biggest gripe with Geralt's voice in TW3 is that he is like 3x louder compared to everyone else.
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>kill Radovid, the North is doomed
>kill Radovid, but let Djikstra take over, sacrificing Roche, Ves and Thaler
>don't kill Radovid, he establishes his own Empire of terror

Truly a hard choice.
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>>389183626
they portrayed Yennefer to perfection though.
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>>389183482
>And to be honest I never noticed much of it in TW3, but perhaps I wasn't really paying attention.
They patched more waifu stuff in later by popular demand

>Because I've been waiting for an ending like this for a while.
Ah, you wanted a more conventional happily ever after ending than the books gave eh? I'd argue they still fucked that up since they didn't really reunite the family (Yennefer only exists to be a waifu option in the game, her relationship with Ciri is nonexistent), but to each their own.

> and writes one of the most insulting endings I've seen,
Pitchfork guy did nothing wrong
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>>389183756
>a world without non humans and magescum
>empire of terror
(you)
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>>389183502
How the fuck can you be so dishonest? The lead writer of Witcher 3 is like the fifth credited in the other games. They let the amateur take over
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>>389183502
Only one of those is a lead writer credit

>>389183520
And short teleports are too overpowered for a vidya protagonist to be allowed to have? That's something that's never been done before?
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>>389183760
IIRC Yennefer was mostly written by the person that did the main Velen quest, IE their only other good writer. Of course Yennefer is barely in the game so not sure what difference it makes.
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>>389183760
No, they didnt. She was downgraded to her short stories personality.
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>>389183789
>They patched more waifu stuff in later by popular demand

Ah, yeah didn't know that. I heard about it but I haven't replayed TW3 yet so I guess I've missed it.

>Ah, you wanted a more conventional happily ever after ending than the books gave eh?

Maybe? It just felt like the ending just...didn't explain anything at least at the time where I've read it. The whole Witch Hunt/Frost thing just dangled there and was never resolved. I admit TW3's ending COULD be better but it was SOMETHING that addressed it.

>Pitchfork guy did nothing wrong
You shut your mouth, skurwysynu.
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>>389183889
Actually didn't even notice that guy.

Doesn't matter though. Proves the fag that wrote the pile of shit that is Witcher 3's vanilla story can write a GOAT expansion.
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>>389183756
Roche, Ves, and Ploughing Cocksuck Thaler turned into meme characters. you're doing them a favor.

>>389183889
Well to play dyaebl's advocate for a minute you might expect someone to get experience over time and be worthy of promotion
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>>389184051
Who wrote the Velen quest then? I've never seen CDPR reveal this info.
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>>389184157
Hearts of Stone was small and focused. TW3 is sprawling and bloated. That's the main difference.

>>389184118
>The whole Witch Hunt/Frost thing just dangled there and was never resolved. I
Ah yeah that's true. Sapkowski just got tired of writing it and left it hanging. I'd almost rather have no resolution than a poor one though.

post yfw the Falka's tainted blood thing is still totally a dangling plot point even after the game
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>>389184259
It was one of their female writers IIRC but I can't remember where I read that she wrote that and Yennefer. Maybe I imagined it. Probably shouldn't just post shit like that and trust my memory.
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>>389183081
The world's problems aren't stupid shitty things like Drowners, Foglets, or Ghouls or civilized monsters like Bruxae or Higher Vampires. The world's problems are mega-fauna like Drakes and Gryphons and Leshens and given their size like any other animal of that size it takes many years if not decades for them to mature (and by that measure also sexually mature). The Witchers have been killing them faster than they could reproduce since the Convergence - it's getting to the point where they're just going to go extinct or be driven to the far remote corners of the continent like Kaer Morhen where they can't harm civilization.

And here's the thing about peace and the removal of Radovid and the ascension of Emhyr, the magical academies can once again train a generation of mages and because they're going to be Nilfgaard mages and not Northern Mages instead of being pompous sex-crazed harlots they will be more like public servants. The only reason why people like Yen don't do any task-mage work is because mucking about in the sewers and swamps is below them, which is a position that can be afforded by their high privledge - that can and will change with Nilfgaard directing the change and Phillipa and the Lodge being on board. It's the same reason why the Druids and other priestly orders aren't shitty like the Sorcerers - because they consistently served the people for the most part.

It's fucking tragic that the Witcher schools are gone - it's similar to our world where spinning, woodworking, metalcraft, sculpture, and painting are doing to be dead soon. But the world will go on without them without their skills.
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>>389184435
I'm surprised a woman was grown up enough to not portray a wife beater as the devil himself.
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>>389184339
>Falka

God even I forgot about that. It's been a while.

And it just felt like Sapkowski bit off more than he could chew with the saga, which is perfectly what I'd expect of him. I respect his work but man can this guy be an asshole. And that ending was basically a middle-finger to every read. I was ready to see Geralt die but not like that.
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>>389184534
>and not Northern Mages instead of being pompous sex-crazed harlots they will be more like public servants.
So instead of being decadent whores they'll be decadent whores?
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>>389184571
>And it just felt like Sapkowski bit off more than he could chew with the saga,
>And that ending was basically a middle-finger to every read
Huh maybe TW3 really WAS a great adaptation of the saga

>>389184570
CDPR hasn't gone full bore for the diversity hires.
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>>389184435
>woman writes a character
>he's the biggest Cuckold in the game

Really makes you think.
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>>389184534
>And here's the thing about peace and the removal of Radovid and the ascension of Emhyr, the magical academies can once again train a generation of mages and because they're going to be Nilfgaard mages and not Northern Mages instead of being pompous sex-crazed harlots they will be more like public servants. The only reason why people like Yen don't do any task-mage work is because mucking about in the sewers and swamps is below them, which is a position that can be afforded by their high privledge - that can and will change with Nilfgaard directing the change and Phillipa and the Lodge being on board. It's the same reason why the Druids and other priestly orders aren't shitty like the Sorcerers - because they consistently served the people for the most part.
No wonder Sapkowski hates the games since this is like the exact opposite of his world view but it's the impression they give.
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>>389184995
>Philip Strenger is a cuckold
>Yennefer is cuckquean'd by Geralt
IT FITS
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>>389184051
The only things I liked about the quests were Velen,Yennefer and that quest in Skelige with the Leshen and the woods. That felt like one of the short stories,and it had few different ways to resolve it.

Many people will mention the Cat School witcher but that's just a rethread of Berengars Story, I only realized after I completed the quest
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>>389184995
>beats the shit out of his wife and kills her lover
>cuckold
i dont think so tim
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>>389185131
>The only things I liked about the quests were Velen,Yennefer and that quest in Skelige with the Leshen and the woods. That felt like one of the short stories,and it had few different ways to resolve it.
fuck are you me?

>these are all the things that were shown off the most before release
what did they mean by this

>>389185138
He was a cuckold as soon as his wife slept with another man. I'm sorry but that's the literal definition.
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>>389183756
I dont see how anyone can pick something other than Nilfgaard winning, unless youre playing some knife ear/self hating Geralt sucking Radovids dick.
>Temeria restored with decent autonomy
>mages, nonhumans and co. no longer getting pyred
>church of the eternal fire getting cucked hard, probably loses its control of novigrad, or theyre nilfgaardian rubber stamps
>Roche, Ves, and Thaler live
I mean that seems like the best possible ending to me
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>>389183756
I had some apprehension towards letting Nilfgaard win, however considering how Toussaint is faring, getting Roche's special deal for Temeria as a vassal of Nilfgaard seems like the best option for everyone.
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imagine how autistic you must be to think that a simple sweet and in perfect taste video with a bit of fan service done in 2 minutes celebrating an important date and thanking the player is somehow bad
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>>389185398
You can make a reasonable argument that Geralt might choose to simply not aid Dijkstra at all in which case the plot never goes forward.

>knifeear
Geralt was always an elfaboo bro sorry
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>>389185539
It's emblematic of how video game writing will never progress beyond capeshit movie levels of fanservice.
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>>389183756
Djikstra is the best for everyone (humans, nonhumans, mages). Radovid and Emhyr burn mages for no reason.
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>>389185539
I just find it insulting that they think this is something I'd enjoy. It's like when I first played Mass Effect 2 and found there was an option to call your waifu up for cuddlng at the end of the game whenever you wanted. I mean, this is what they think I want? This is what they think i am?

Made me feel dirty.
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>>389171609
Bought the Witcher 3 GOTY Edition last Summer Sale.

I didn't play it because I though the huge shilling and reddit liking just prove that it is a shit Game, I was fucking wrong, I'm sorry.

Finished the main story last weekend, yesterday I started Hearth of Stone and just finished the Weeding Quest, god damn the game just keeps becoming better. CDProjekt did everything right, based fucking polacks.

66 hours in and I can't stop playing. I didn't play other games since I started Witcher, I just can't enjoy them anymore. At this point Witcher seriously turned me into a pathetic fanboy, but the Game is a Masterpiece.
Gratz to all my Witcher bros, I hope you enjoyed the game as much as me.
Here is a Screenshot I took with Amsel (looks like BOTW).
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since people are talking about TW3 writing ITT,can anyone tell me if they remember any funny moments from the game?


Witcher 1 and 2 had me laughing hard at some moments, like everything involving Vaska, or Dandelion going in to have sex with that Succubus. Can't remember anything from Witcher 3 tho
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>>389186084
>Gratz to all my Witcher bros, I hope you enjoyed the game as much as me.
It disappointed me and made me sad but unlike you I played the other games first. I envy you.
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>>389185637
I suppose, though I would think hed always fall for
>but think of Triss and Yennefer!
>elfaboo
I said it because if you really wanted you can larp as some xenophobic self hating mutant, which would cause someone to stick with Radovid
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>>389186138
>inb4 lambert memes
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>>389186138
no, but I remember it tried to force bad memes
>I hate portals xD
Shutup
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>>389185759
>>389185910
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>>389186219
>I suppose, though I would think hed always fall for
It didn't work at Thanedd. Of course there's been character development since then. When the various writers for the franchise remember it.
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>>389186138
The killing monsters scene was pretty funny. And the drunk witchers scene.
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>>389186270
Portals and the Zeugl and the unicorn were funny the first couple times but yeah they outwore their welcome.
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>>389186376
And the quest where you're trying to make the mute druid talk.
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>>389186138
>that line
That's too clever to be a TW1 original. Where in the books does it occur?
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>>389186138
>Vaska
Who?
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>>389185759
>videogame company never addresses their fans or posts something to signal a franchise's anniversary/important dates
"wow these guys only want money fucking nigger jews dont even care about the IP FUCK THEM"

>company spends money and time doing a short animation to thank the fans for 10 years of fun and money
WOW WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS WRITING THIS IS WHY WE'LL NEVER BE MATURE AND GO BEYOND CAPESHIT TIER WHAT THE FUCK HOW FAR CDPR HAS FALLEN

m8 srsly consider suicide
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>>389185009
It doesn't matter what Sapkowski's world-view is or whether I somewhat agree with it, the way he ended this shit was the most inelegant horseshit on the planet. From the moment Geralt is reunited with Yen and Ciri after dealing with Vilgefortz (which by the way involves the killing of absolutely everyone of note within maybe 20 pages) he closes out every plot point within about a hundred pages. That's about a hundred pages to show off the Triss/Yen relationship, deal with the Sorceresses, deal with Emhyr, and killing the entire family off.

I read the books before I got started on the games. The Ciri books were pretty much pure sewage to read. If Witcher 3 was true to Sapkowski's world view Roche would certainly be dead and probably Johnny as well. In fact, everyone would be dead and Geralt wouldn't have a summer home; it would just be bad end all over the place.

So Sapkowski can take his dislike of the games and fucking stow it. They threw the old bitch a bone with the innumerable bad-ends just like he would've wrote the endings himself. If that faggot had written the games in spite of the player doing everything "right" everyone would have died anyways so fuck him. That old fucker would have killed Dandelion for no reason.
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>>389176436
I bet you hated the last part of Laidlaw's EP3, you cunt.
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>>389186595
>>company spends money and time doing a short animation to thank the fans for 10 years of fun and money
They could have thanked me by giving me what I payed for in the first place. My fault for pre-ordering TW3 though.
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>>389186715
yes that is your fault for being a complete retard and pre-ordering videogames
It's almost as retarded as buying early access games.
hope that served as a lesson though.
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>>389186659
>The Ciri books were pretty much pure sewage to read
Our tastes are clearly very different.
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>>389186659
You really, REALLY hate sad endings don't you?

>>389186818
It did. Never ever again will I be a drone. Sorry for being part of the problem, /v/.
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>>389186574
witcher 1 had great original writing,even though sometimes the dialogue felt like it went trough google translate a few times

>>389186585
you know the grandmother in Shanis place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpZpn6kCZ7w
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>>389182527
why does Ciri look like she's in her late teens/early 20s in that pic, when she actually should be like 13 or 14
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>>389186976
>witcher 1 had great original writing,
You sure about that? Some of the most common examples I see posted are lifted straight from the books.

>you know the grandmother in Shanis place
Vaska was the Shadow Over Innsmouth lady.
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>>389186946
No, I have no problem with sad endings, it's just that he dumped a sad ending on us in less than a hundred fucking pages. He might as well have ended the book with, "And then everyone died" because that's literally what happened.
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>>389186976
wtf I've never saw this

Did they mess with Granny's scenes in the enhanced edition. I remember playing the original edition once a long time ago and she was a lot more annoying. I wonder if they changed her for the enhanced edition
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all these people calling TW3 a shit game in here are either memeing or butthurt weebs, right?
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>>389187203
It's not a shit game at all but the combat seriously needs work.
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>>389187203
Both.
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>>389187143
eh, I mean I would have liked a bit more but it still worked for me. Way better than TW3's.
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>>389187203
both
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>>389187203
It's not a shit game but it's terrible as a continuation and not very well written. The shit writing is well delivered though and the game mechanics are fun enough. Great sound track too.
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>>389187203
It's a good game but it's the worst witcher game.
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I never went to toussaint. I wonder if I should replay TW3 or just that part.
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>>389187632
this anon knows what's up
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>>389171609
oh god those feels
The Witcher franchise have literally been the most important video games of my life, I just realized that
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>>389187748
Blood and Wine is terrible, don't bother. Only ones that liked it are people that loved the Citadel shit for ME3

>>389187835
That's really sad.
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>>389187632
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>>389187090
the first game is the best written of them all. Sure most of the time it doesn't know if it wants to be retreading of the books or a sequel, however it's the most complete game it has brilliant parts in it.People never appreciate how good the Identity quest was.

witcher 2 would be better if they ever got a chance to finish the game properly , but it's still good even with the rushed ending
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>>389188051
>the first game is the best written of them all.
It's really disjointed like TW3, just filled with book fanservice and an ending that actually has a good twist and isn't a total cop out. I prefer the really tight plotting of TW2 where nothing is waste and everything is significant, even if its promise is totally squandered by TW3.

I can understand your preference though.
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>>389187748
Toussaint is the best area in the game. Just play the expansion.
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>>389187203
Its a good experience but as a game its mediocre at best. Every single piece of interactivity is riddled with fuckhuge flaws
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>>389188051
>People never appreciate how good the Identity quest was.
It's only good for the journal entries. And then only if you were replaying it or had read the books so you realized what was actually going on there.
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Witcher 3 is a masterpiece. Nothing cucks on this board say can change that.
The devs know it was great, the players know it and the gaming industry knows it. Why do you think so many of the great RPGs that came after W3 used concepts of it? Because it was a great game.
Witcher 3 will be remembered as one of the greatest RPG of all time and there's nothing you can do to change that.
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A short video that says "thank you for playing our game" Why are people mad about this?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Ju8WVY2a4

Remember when this was a parody and not real life?

>>389188373
TW3 is really derivative. It didn't introduce a single new idea to any genre.

>Witcher 3 will be remembered as one of the greatest RPG of all time and there's nothing you can do to change that.
But yes this is how it will be remembered and it makes me sad. This is why games will never be an art form.
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>>389188385
cynical autism
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>>389188385
>Good goy thank you for giving us money! Remember to buy gwent cards!
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>>389187485
I don't see the continuation problem.
TW1 is a standalone story, the only important aspect for the sequels is that Geralt is back and that he's amnesiac.
TW2 tells how Geralt gets his memory back, which is the catalyst for the main story of TW3, and sets the stage for the political state of the world.
TW3 is the one where shit hits the fan and the story is concluded.

TW2 is the buildup, TW3 the grand finale.
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>>389188449
who the actual fuck cares about games being art?
are you a games journalist by any chance?
what a humongous faggot holy shit
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>>389188385
Because it's no substitute for an actual conclusion to the series.

>>389188585
>TW2 is the buildup, TW3 the grand finale
It drops almost all connections to TW2 though
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>>389175491
Me.
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>>389171609
Who /REPLAYINGTHESERIES/ here?
This cropped up while I was toying with the idea of re-installing W1. Might as well go all out now.
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>>389188635
If I was a gaming journalist I'd be praising TW3 for proving games are indeed art but still have a long way to go to combat white privilege.

>>389188734
Me and it's why I suddenly realized TW3 is a bad sequel
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>>389171609
I really wish Witcher 2 had gotten DLC like Witcher 3. W2 is the best of the series imo, truly the best storyline and characters, focuses on the political conspiracy shit, not muh evil wild hunt. And instead of the open world in W3 we could've gotten more radovid/djikstra side quests. So much wasted potential on the open world meme.
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>>389174415
>expecting videogame company to give a shit about you

holy fuck this is some top tier kek
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>>389188668
Do you not feel that TW3 concluded the series? If not, what needs concluding?
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>>389188585
>TW3 is the one where shit hits the fan and the story is concluded.
Why does the wild Hunt abduct people between the ages of 10 and 20
Why does it stop at locations of elven slaughter
What is Radovids grand plan to defeat Nilfgaard after he's purged the mages from the North
What happened to Emhyr's consort
Why does Emhyr want Ciri to be Empress even after he wins the war when the whole point is that she's a compromise with his political rivals
What the fuck is the white frost and how does Ciri stop it
How did Radovid get into Novigrad
What the hell happened to Saskia
Why does Roche have a totally different personality
Where is Iorveth
Why do they need the sunstone when they can just have Ciri teleport to bring Eredin's attention
Why does Philippa think Nilfgaard would accept the Lodge
how the fuck is Ciri a good Empress
How does Radovid win the war if he's not killed
Why did the crones turn out to be an easy bossfight
How did Avallac'h betray anything or anyone
Where's Anais
Where's Natalis
Where's Dethmold
Why do Ciri and Yennefer hardly speak
What was Geralt even doing for six months between games
Who was phone

and many many many more
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>>389188668
what?
The whole point of the TW2 story is to set up the third war between Nilfgaard and the Northern Realms that's happening in TW3. How is that "dropping almost all connections"?
Almost all the important characters from TW2 that survived are present in TW3 (well, except Iorveth and Natalis).
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>game with mediocre at best gameplay in every single aspect
>wins fuckloads of awards and sells tons on mediocre writing and excellent presentation alone

TW3 really is the industry summed up nicely I think
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>>389189067
Only a dipshit would think the series didn't finish up. He's just a retard wasting our time asking for explanations people have already given in this very thread.
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>>389188943
>>expecting videogame company to give a shit about you
>holy fuck this is some top tier kek
People in this thread right now think they do because they made a two minute fanservice video

>>389189067
I don't even know where to start there's so many plot holes. I had a big list at some point saved for shitposting but it's gone now and what's the point.
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i can't be the only one here who plays the gwent open beta
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>>389189243
>The whole point of the TW2 story is to set up the third war between Nilfgaard and the Northern Realms that's happening in TW3. How is that "dropping almost all connections"?
There might as well not have been a war it had so little influence on the plot.

>>389189261
this
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>>389188585
Remember when The Wild Hunt had more dialogue and presence and he was better written in a game not called The Wild Hunt? He was a good frined

> and sets the stage for the political state of the world
TW3 ignores what TW2 set up in more ways than one though. It ignores your choices, then it ignores that political stage it set up as you put it. That convoluted network of kings, advisors, lords and heirs is replaced by Radovid who is now evil. And his two guards up on that boat . And he's the only factor in it war or the resolution.
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>>389189445
>this is Vesemir's voice actor
Vesemir was Wild Hunt all along
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Why did Lambert try to kill Foltest?
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>>389182209
>sadistic sociopath
I hope the FBI is watching over this thread.
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>>389183932
Considering it made every fight scene with Ciri infinitely easier, it might not be the best thing to have in an action heavy game where most of the enemies don't have teleport powers.
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>>389189845
Probably all waifufags are on some kinda watch list
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>>389189445
>tfw the big bad super cool antagonist in witcher 3 is a fucking clown with less lines than reskinned shopkeepers in Velen

How and why did they fuck up Eredin so fucking hard
Why is O'Dimm the only half-good antagonist in the entire 150+ hour experience
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>>389189891
Just add a cool down or lower the range or i-frames. It's not that different from most games dodging in essence. Reason the Ciri segments were easy is because they're basically interactive cutscenes meant to shake things up for fifteen minutes and not real gameplay.
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>>389189979
>Why is O'Dimm the only half-good antagonist in the entire 150+ hour experience
Olgierd is also an antagonist.
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I'm just glad there's some people that realize TW3 is overrated. maybe there's hope after all.
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>at a convention earlier
>saw a dude and his gf cosplaying Geralt and Ciri
>asked to take a picture but they were on their way to a photo shoot

They looked damn good too
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>>389189237
>Why does the wild Hunt abduct people between the ages of 10 and 20
because they use humans as slaves in their own world. explained in the books and I'm sure its mentioned in the lore texts in TW3.
>Why does it stop at locations of elven slaughter
you mean the Wild Hunt stopping at elven burial grounds? because they're looking for Avallach and Ciri, and those kinds of places are likely hideouts Avallach would use.
>What is Radovids grand plan to defeat Nilfgaard after he's purged the mages from the North
Radovid is mad and hates mages and sorceresses. Sorceresses and Mages also have had great political influence in the North, of course someone like Radovid would go after them.
>What happened to Emhyr's consort
who?
>Why does Emhyr want Ciri to be Empress even after he wins the war when the whole point is that she's a compromise with his political rivals
Emhyr is extremely arrogant, and he also knows about Ciris powers. Thus he is sure that his offspring on the throne is the superior choice for the Empire.
>What the fuck is the white frost and how does Ciri stop it
thats one thing where I agree with the critics, The White Frost wasn't handled well. It's supposed to be some kind of cosmic, natural disaster. How Ciri would stop that is beyond me.
>How did Radovid get into Novigrad
he's the most powerful ruler in the North
>What the hell happened to Saskia
hanging out with Borkh/Villentretenmerth probably
>Why does Roche have a totally different personality
?
As I remember it, Roche is still the same non-human hating Temerian loyalist he was in TW2
>Where is Iorveth
another point where I agree with the critics
>Why do they need the sunstone when they can just have Ciri teleport to bring Eredin's attention
dont remember, was probably explained in some dialogue
>Why does Philippa think Nilfgaard would accept the Lodge
she doesn't. Nilfgaard is the only alternative for the sorceresses, the alternative is being burned alive by Rad the Lad
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>>389190471
>>saw a dude and his gf cosplaying Geralt and Ciri
>a dude and his gf
>Geralt and Ciri
What did they mean by this?
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>>389185759
>It's emblematic of how video game writing will never progress beyond capeshit movie levels of fanservice.
>It's emblematic of how video game writing will never progress beyond capeshit movie levels of
>It's emblematic of how video game writing will never progress beyond capeshit movie levels of fanservice.
>It's emblematic of how video game writing will never progress beyond capeshit movie
>It's emblematic of how video game writing will never progress beyond capeshit
>It's emblematic of how video game writing will never progress
>It's emblematic of how video game writing will never
>It's emblematic of how video game writing
>It's emblematic
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>>389190542
>because they use humans as slaves in their own world. explained in the books and I'm sure its mentioned in the lore texts in TW3.
It was implied in TW2 they had some other, arcane reason for it. 10 year olds make poor slaves outside of being catamites anyway.

>you mean the Wild Hunt stopping at elven burial grounds? because they're looking for Avallach and Ciri, and those kinds of places are likely hideouts Avallach would use.
Again, different implication in TW2. And they hadn't even drawn Ciri out yet at this point. They were still fucking with Geralt and yennefer and waiting for her to show up.

>Radovid is mad and hates mages and sorceresses. Sorceresses and Mages also have had great political influence in the North, of course someone like Radovid would go after them.
Yet he courts Carduin in TW2 and even in the ending where he slaughters everyone his whole "In the beginning, there was Chaos" thing implies some kind of plan. Unless that was just more lub-dubbing.

>who?
explained in the books :^) (Emhyr is already married to a "Ciri", anon. It's even mentioned in TW2)

>Emhyr is extremely arrogant, and he also knows about Ciris powers.
So his book characterization is pointless and retconned out, got it. Still doesn't explain why Ciri only becomes Emperor if Emhyr WINS, when in the reality is she'd only become Empress if he lost. That was the whole point.

>he's the most powerful ruler in the North
The reasons he couldn't take it where well established in an earlier act. Yet he's sitting there in act 3 and no one so much as comments on it.

>hanging out with Borkh/Villentretenmerth probably
In my game she's still Philippa's slave. This is never even mentioned. Despite CDPR even teasing the dagger and Philippa in a damn trailer.

>As I remember it, Roche
He's now a cool tactician instead of a hothead.

>dont remember, was probably explained in some dialogue
Nope.

>she doesn't.
She literally expects to be Ciri's chief advisor.
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Remember when TW2 implied that Eredin was abducting powerful warriors from other worlds and using mind control magic to force them into the retinue?

CDPR doesn't
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>>389190019
I mean you make fair points, but I still think it'd be easier to leave the whole storyline with its own happy ending/conclusion and delve into the lesser known characters like Eskel or Lambert, as well as delving into lesser known regions like Nilfgaard and Kovir/Poviss.

Hell, even a Vesemir prequel could be really interesting, set like 50-100 years ago. We could even briefly see characters like a young Lambert or Eskel, even a young Geralt. From what it sounded like at the auction in HoS, Vesemir had a pretty interesting history.
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>>389190634
They looked too close in age to be anything else.

Don't think they thought about the implication.
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>>389191254
I don't think CDPR could make them interesting characters. Granted, Ciri was an interesting character in the books and they made her boring so I guess it doesn't matter.
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>>389190542
cont.

>how the fuck is Ciri a good Empress
thats not shown in the game
>How does Radovid win the war if he's not killed
that's literally explained in the ending
>Why did the crones turn out to be an easy bossfight
let's be honest, difficulty is not a hallmark of the Witcher games
>How did Avallac'h betray anything or anyone
everything he did was because he was in love/obsessed with Lara Dorren and her progeny. Everyone he worked with where means to an end for him.
>Where's Anais
>Where's Natalis
bother either in exile or dead
>Where's Dethmold
hes killed in TW2, either by Geralt or executed on Saskias orders
>Why do Ciri and Yennefer hardly speak
how would you show private conversations between Ciri and Yen in a game that's played from Geralt's perspective
>What was Geralt even doing for six months between games
picking up Vesemir and looking for Yen.
you realize travelling takes time in a medieval setting, right?
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wtf I hate the witcher now
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>>389191424
>thats not shown in the game
Dandelion outright tells you she's great at it in the end slides.

>that's literally explained in the ending
"He's a genius"

Not exactly Tacitus, is it.

>let's be honest, difficulty is not a hallmark of the Witcher games
From a writing perspective they were implied to be something you couldn't beat just by hacking at them with a sword. Why are they a boss fight at all?

>hes killed in TW2, either by Geralt or executed on Saskias orders
He can survive on Roche's path but is forgotten about like most other import things.

>everything he did was because he was in love/obsessed with Lara Dorren and her progeny. Everyone he worked with where means to an end for him.
Doesn't answer the question.

>>Where's Anais
>Where's Natalis
>bother either in exile or dead
Last I saw Anais she was with Roche. Father of the fucking year.

>how would you show private conversations between Ciri and Yen in a game that's played from Geralt's perspective
Overhear something? Or hell, not marry it ot Geralt's perspective in the first place. TW2 and TW1 showed stuff Geralt isn't present for.

>picking up Vesemir and looking for Yen.
>you realize travelling takes time in a medieval setting, right?
He's still in the Pontar Valley. Geralt traveled a hundred miles in 6 months? I didn't realize he was trying to wade through the outer layers a neutron star. The whole of TW2 is just a few weeks and he goes just as far.

It's a clumsy way to let time pass so they don't have to have continuity
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>>389191360
Lambert might be a bit difficult since he already has an asshole persona.

But Eskel's pretty much a clean slate for the most part - just a traditional, fairly normal witcher. CDPR could shape him into whatever they wanted. Same could apply for younger Vesemir.
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>>389192000
>But Eskel's pretty much a clean slate for the most part - just a traditional, fairly normal witcher. CDPR could shape him into whatever they wanted. Same could apply for younger Vesemir.
That's exactly the problem. They have very little to work with. As Blood and Wine showed, they're not very good at working from scratch.
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Why is she so cute?
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>>389189261

Eh, this argument always goes around in circles. I'll acknowledge that TW3 doesn't have fantastic combat as far as action-adventure games go but it's perfectly serviceable as an RPG.
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Witcher 3 is best written witcher game if we are talking about dialogues quality. Story wise Witcher 3: HoS and Witcher 2 are the best written. Witcher 1 story is fun but not on W2 or W3: HoS level. Witcher 1 dialogues are shitty written, amateurish an pretty bad.
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>>389191129
I'm aware of Fake Ciri
She never had any presence in the games except being mentioned once or maybe twice, I don't see how she's important to the plot.

Emhyr is an arrogant prick in the books as well, no idea what you're talking about.

The political climate in Novigrad changed as the Church of the Eternal Flame gained power. They're supporters of Rad.

Why wouldn't Roche be a good tactician, he's the head of the Special Forces.
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>>389192247
>RPG fans just accept that the combat will be mediocre to bad
Josh Sawyer did nothing wrong
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>>389180343
nah it looks great
still, the game goes from amazing to better than real life when you mod it
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>>389192378
This seems pretty fair. Though I don't think the gap in quality of dialogue between TW3 and TW2 was very big.
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For everyone here who hate Witcher 3 but like Witcher 2 story, I was following development of Witcher 3 and I think someone involved in the games told us that the chief writer of Witcher 2 was transfered to cyberpunk very early in development, so you might like Cyberpunk even if Witcher 3 was disapointing in the story department
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>>389192384

>RPG fans just accept that the combat will be mediocre to bad

I mean, yeah, we kind of do. I don't think WRPGs have particularly great combat as a general rule but that's not really the point of playing an RPG.
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>>389192383
>She never had any presence in the games except being mentioned once or maybe twice, I don't see how she's important to the plot.
Kind of an awkward thing to explain for Emhyr when he tells everyone to bring him his real daughter.

>Emhyr is an arrogant prick in the books as well, no idea what you're talking about.
Arrogant, but not retarded.

>The political climate in Novigrad changed as the Church of the Eternal Flame gained power. They're supporters of Rad.
They don't want to lose their treasury though. Why would they open the gates knowing what Sigi will do if they try it? And why is it never mentioned that they did so, or how they avoided Dijkstra's retaliation?

>inb4 whoreseon Jr
Geralt and Sigi thwart that scheme.

>Why wouldn't Roche be a good tactician, he's the head of the Special Forces.
In TW2 he's a hothead frequently restrained by Ves or Geralt that makes the game go on for two chapters further than it needed to. In TW3 he's the calm coolheaded guy that's constantly having to talk down hotheaded Ves.
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>>389192516

>For everyone here who hate Witcher 3 but like Witcher 2 story

The last act of W2 was so weak, I don't understand how anybody could prefer it over W3.
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>>389192378
Witcher 1 was baddly translated from polish and it still felt like it had more flavor to the dialogue than Witcher 3.

Witcher 2 had a lot more poetic dialogue than Witcher 3 which was just generic and unmemorable. I remember a lot of dialogue lines from Witcher 2 but none from Witcher 3, it was missing style
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>>389183889

BTW: Michał Madej who was Chief Designer on Witcher 1 is back in CDPR since 2015 as Design Director on CP 2077.

Sebastian Stępień who was responsible for dialogues with Marcin Blacha is right now Narrative and Setting Director in CDPR. And Marcin Blacha is right now Story Director, he was Lead Writer since W2.


So the "important" guys are still there.
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>>389192516
>For everyone here who hate Witcher 3 but like Witcher 2 story, I was following development of Witcher 3 and I think someone involved in the games told us that the chief writer of Witcher 2 was transfered to cyberpunk very early in development, so you might like Cyberpunk even if Witcher 3 was disapointing in the story department
I'd like to believe that but they also said that Blood and Wine wasn't made by a b-team and would be top tier writing

>>389192687
You can't say TW3 is good and then criticize a game for having a weak last act. TW2's last act is stronger than TW3's. At least it actually explains the game's plot in a satisfactory way.
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>>389192732
>And Marcin Blacha is right now Story Director, he was Lead Writer since W2.

That was the lead writer of Witcher 3 who is responsible of why the story is dogshit. He had "additional dialogue" job in Witcher 2. He should be shitcanned
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>>389192732
Didn't they promote a trissfag scenario designer to lead writer recently instead?
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>>389192898
Yeah that's the guy I think. >>389192904

>"team Triss since the books"
>imfuckingplying
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>>389192814

>You can't say TW3 is good and then criticize a game for having a weak last act.

Granted, base TW3 doesn't have a great last act either but the expansions more than make up for that and TW2's felt really unfinished to me.
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>>389193038
the expansions don't fix anything about the last act. They add on top of it, but don't fix any of the issues.
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>>389193038
>Granted, base TW3 doesn't have a great last act either but the expansions more than make up for that

>totally stand alone story fix an unrelated last act
uhuh. Or do you mean the few minutes of waifu pandering in Geralt's mansion in Frogland?
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>>389180605
pls delet thanks
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>>389175809
>Originally a six book series by Michael Moorcock, the story follows its title character, Elric of Melnibone, in his journey from a sickly sorcerer-king to a top class warrior involved with the affairs of the gods

Sounds more like Xena than Witcher. And literally everything has a multiverse now. Not because it appeared in a fantasy book but because Many Worlds Hypothesis is an actual thing. But it's amazing how people think that DC or Marvel and now Moorcock invented it. Though thinking Flash of Two Worlds was the first multiverse story ever is still less retarded than thinking the idea first appeared with Captain Britain. Though I'm not even sure how you'd even know about the later comic without knowing about the far less obscure first one. Bait, I suppose?
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>>389191818
>thats not shown in the game
>Dandelion outright tells you she's great at it in the end slides.
well, sometimes people have hidden talents, you know

>that's literally explained in the ending
"He's a genius"

Not exactly Tacitus, is it.

real world history is full of geniuses conquering empires

>let's be honest, difficulty is not a hallmark of the Witcher games
>From a writing perspective they were implied to be something you couldn't beat just by hacking at them with a sword. Why are they a boss fight at all?

well, from the writing perspective, Ciri has the most broken abilities outside of the Unseen Elder. that tends to even the odds a little.

>Doesn't answer the question.
so what's your question? the actual methods he used to fuck everyone over?

>Father of the fucking year.
so you would bring a young girl with you into a guerilla war?

>Geralt traveled a hundred miles in 6 months?
he's not just traveling from one point to another. He's searching for clues and tracking. He also did some contracts, as shown in the Killing Monsters comic.

to be fair, you have some good questions, like the Wild Hunt stuff. But most of your other points seem really minor to me, like the fate of Dethmold. Those things are not important to the story. They cant include every little thing.
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>>389182527
based Leo
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>>389192673
in TW2, Roche was hunting the killer of his beloved king. Of course he's going off the rails.
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>>389171609
>mfw this video has more heart and soul than any bioware game from the past 7 years combined

where did it all go so wrong bros?
>>
CDPR is the only good developer left and you autists don't deserve them.
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>>389171609
Aaah, that 4th wall break is super cheesy.

Can't say I hate it though.
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>>389172490
>the I'm mad and hate everything guy
What a miserable existence.
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>>389193492
Not even gonna bother with the rest of your post since it's pointless but come the fuck on
>he's not just traveling from one point to another. He's searching for clues and tracking.
Last he heard she was in Nilfgaard. If he was looking for clues he'd beeline south first.
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>>389193686
It's literally a Bioware DLC video what are you on about? It's the same saccharine shit.
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>>389175491
I played Witcher 1 way back when it came out but didn't finish it. Once I got a decent computer I bought Witcher 2 on Steam, Witcher 3 is literally the best game I've ever played.
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>>389193924
I guess you are fortunate enough not to have played bioware games after DA:O.

Do yourself a favor and keep it that way.
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>>389194094
>implying Bioware was ever good
Black Isle was good, Bioware was always trash.
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>>389188668
The only connection it drops is Iorveth and the Scoia'tel, everything else continues on directly in to Witcher 3.
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>>389193616
Why didn't he rape ciri? Is Leo gay?
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>>389193924
Why do you have such a hardon for Bioware?
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