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First time player here, I just beat the Blood-Starved Beast.

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First time player here, I just beat the Blood-Starved Beast. I'm using the Kirkhammer, but now there are two more weapons available (rifle spear and stake driver). Are either of these worth it, or should I continue upgrading the hammer? Also, I believe the game is on sale right now on the Playstation Store, so if you don't have it, I'd suggest picking it up.
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All weapons are viable
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Rifle Spear and Stake Driver are both garbage. Kirkhammer's not really a very good weapon either but it's passable if you like it. Ludwig's Holy Blade is a better Kirkhammer but it's the noob-attracting shitter weapon.
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They're not that good unless you're doing a build for them or have lots of bloodtinge
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Rifle spear is gimmicky and stake driver is hard to use, Kirkhammer gets really strong later on so stick with it, and most importantly get out of this thread before someone spoils the game for you
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>>389146997
My buddy has been telling me to find the saw spear, would that be preferable to the hammer? I do like the massive damage of the 2H mode of the hammer.
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Reminder
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>>389147310
I've been using the top hat set with the Kirkhammer, so I'm only slightly le ebin classy gentleman at the moment
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I used the Threaded Cane for the whole game, and on the side a little bit Tonitrus. There's a lot of very interesting weapons but I feel like I committed too heavily on this single one when the game has so many interesting builds you can go for.
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I'm on my first playthrough too.

Started with the cane, but I picked up the Saw Spear because it fucking kills everything. Tonitrus for my off weapon, but I never see anyone mention it. I just like an electric mace.
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Kirkhammer=Wheel > Everything else.
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The Kirkhammer is the most enjoyable weapon in any of the Souls games. Upgrade that shit to the max, and master its moveset.
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>>389147098
fuck the meta's. this game is easy.

Hammer is FUN AS FUCk
rifle spear is kinda fun, but you should be a bloodtinge build. i still enjoy it on my cainhurst descendant rp char.

threaded cane is a blast.
saw spear is a SOLID weapon with good reach, pretty fun too.
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>>389148336
>>389146872
protip:

charge R2 all the way until it releases itself. hit R2 again immediately afterwards. ur new favorite combo

pvp shitter mode activated if you have the skill
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>>389148014
Tonitrus charged will come in handy against kin
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>>389148495
this is in reference to the Kirkhammer.
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>>389146872
Before you get too used to the controls, you should go into the accessibility options for your PS4 (in the main settings menu) and change the button assignments so that circle is swapped with L1. Then you can sprint / roll around while turning the camera, and circle transforms your weapon / does a transform attack. You can just turn the swap on and off really quickly for whenever you're playing something other than BB

>>389147098
saw cleaver would be preferable if you are a strength build, but the spear is good too. Both weapons are super fast and do lots of damage especially to beasts
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Saw cleaver or saif?
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Arcane build here. What weapon should I use prior to getting Kos parasite?
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I want a bloodtinge/skill build but I don't know which weapons to get.

Doushio
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>>389149578
threaded cane and evelynn
bloodtinge bow and evelynn
anything and evelynn

riflespear?
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>>389149341
Saw spear with fire gems that are pretty easy to obtain early? I could be wrong but that's what I have been doing. Mind you, unlike my bloodtinge runs, I have been getting fucking in CDs and needed help with Ludwig.. But then again I am shit; anyone who learnt this game enough could play with just a cleaver, never level up and never take damage so
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>>389148582
I fucking love R2 charge with the hammer, but goddamn it takes an hour to fully charge. You've gotta time it perfectly, but one-shotting a troll with it is one of my favorite feelings in the game
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>>389149578
Go pure BT. Bowblade, Evelynn and Chikage. you'll literally hardly ever even use untransformed for small mobs when you realise you can lose a fraction of health to transform and back quickly enough.
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>>389149341
boom hammer/ tonitrus
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>>389149341
Anything with elemental damage
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>>389149578
Chikage
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I've been unironically bumping the soundtrack on Spotify. The Hunter is amazing.
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>>389146872
I beat the game with stake driver.

It isn't bad, you attack fast enough that you can basically stunlock most enemies while using your stamina. Low range though, so getting that first hit in can be a little tricky.
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>>389146872
all the weapons are viable, upgrade whatever you have the most fun with
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I'm an infidel weapon slut but what bothers me is the scarce amount of blood rocks. How many are there?
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>TOH not on sale
fucking bullshit
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>>389146997
>Stake Driver
>Garbage
Sometimes I forget that /v/ thinks fun isn't a reason to use something sub-optimal in a videogame.
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>Got Rakuyo right after Amelia

Fucking Ludwig and Maria at level 30 was brutal. Also the two giant fish fuckers can eat a dick.
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>>389150682
Why is there a chinese weapon in my victorian era european setting

dropped
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>>389150682
>>389150682
>the two giant fish fuckers can eat a dick.
I did the DLC in NG+, are they easier on NG? Definitely the worst enemy in the game and maybe any Souls game I've played
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>>389150656
One. And another in the DLC.
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>>389150656
2 per playthrough. 1 if you don't have the dlc.
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>>389150843
So are +9 weapons in viable
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>>389150682
Those two giant fish fuckers are the true final bosses of Bloodborne.
Most difficult enemy.
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>>389150769
What? It's a cavalry sabre

Do you mean Chikage?
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>tfw summoned for Gascoigne, Amelia, and the final boss(es) on my first playthrough
>cheated myself out of the ideal first experience with the game
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>>389150803
Well yeah since NG+ is kinf of harde than normal newg ganf egk when gf healhfh and atkac g
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>can't beat the BSB
>try the blood cocktail cheese method
>just can't seem to time it right
>he runs around like a pure spastic every time I lob some blood
>run out of cocktails
>FUCK IT, WE'LL DO IT LIVE
>firepaper the hammer, start swinging
>run out of antidotes 2/3s through the fight
>popping vials like they're going outta styles
>manage to down him
>PREY SLAUGHTERED
>let out a bestial victory roar
Goddamn it I love this game.
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>>389146872
Rifle spear has some wonky tracking that i dont like, and little attack variety. Stake driver is for more experienced players

If youre str build you absolutely have to try the dlc weapons
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>>389146872
Kirk is pretty good, the other two you suggested are pretty fucking garbage

STR gets a lot better in the dlc with the beast Cutter and Whirligig saw

I did my whole first playthrough with Kirk and it was fine
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>>389150656
You can also buy them in the Insight shop after beating Mergo's Wet Nurse. You can get 4 through the Chalice Dungeons too.
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Blood+Rock
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>>389146872
Use whatever you like the moveset of, you will have a much better time. You can beat the game with anything.
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Why come there is a saw cleaver and a saw spear. Which a best.
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>>389150843
>>389150890
>>389150838
>>389150656
You can also buy one in the Hunter's Dream using 60 insights after Mergo, I think.
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>>389150986
The best feeling is killing a boss at 30-40% HP when you finished all your blood vials.

Happened to me with Ludwig and BSB.
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>>389150986
You'll have plenty more moments like those, friend. First time I beat gehrman I was left with no vials, my health was at the tiniest amount, and his health was so low there wasn't any red in the bar left, my heart was racing a million miles an hour trying to get that final hit on him
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>>389146959
So i COULD just use my starying axe and pistol the whole time? Ir is that just making my life harder as a first time player of this genre?
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>>389150890
Sure do. And if you're a plebs like all the poster in this board then you skip Chalice dungeon. If you want challenge, new enemy and new bosses then treat yourself.

Also you can get blood rock from boss drop in layer 3 chalice dungeon. But mostly it's rng.
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>>389151135
>>389151094
Find the amygdalan arm, anon. Trust me
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>>389151428
Yes, in fact that's how I beat the game the first time, just upgrade your main weapon and you will be fine
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>>389150979
Go jump a building. Nightmare await shitter like you
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>>389151598
You mean by taking it to that work bench in the dream? Not enough to just raise my strength stats i guess?
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>You have to buy PSN+ subscription to be able to create glyph dungeons offline
Fucking Jews REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>389146872
You have enough materials to upgrade a couple of weapons to +3 so you can try them out a bit.

If you're using a Kirkhammer, try to aim for 50 STR 25 SKL. Focus on strength and vitality, neglect endurance.

Stake Driver is also a weapon that scales with STR, so you could use both. Because Rifle Spear scales with SKL, wit wouldn't be a very good option. Even if you were a skill build it wouldn't be a very good option, because it's one of the weakest PVE weapons in the game by some margin (it and Kos parasite suck).
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>>389151685
Upgrading your weapons at the workbench is hugely important, yes.
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Where farm twin blood shards lol
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>>389150986
Every session is an adventure, that's for fucking sure
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>>389150986
how could you not do it right?

You just hurl it into a corner and smash the fuck out of him

>>389150902
*pulls out Shaman Bone Blade* pshh nothin personel...kid

Also they're intensely easy to backstab

>>389149341
Arcane playthrough goes like this if you want to be optimal

>Saw Spear rush - use Oil Urns and Molotovs in Central Yharnam to shit all over Cleric/Petrolpenny (or just Box and Backstab him)
>Do Old Yharnam for Fire Paper + Beast Blood Pellets + Chalice (Use Blood Cocktails in the corner and Beast Blood Pellet + Fire Paper + Serrated Saw Spear will absolutely shit on BSB)
>Get the Fire Gem from the ayylmao beneath the Workshop - grab all the Twin Shards in Cathedral Ward and get yourself kidnapped by a Snatcher to get more Twin Shards from Gaol (get Tonitrus too if you want to use it) and make +6 Saw Spear
>Use +6 Saw Spear to clear first Chalice down to 3rd floor boss (Take out fire gems to kill him) twice to get two Fire Radial Gems
>Go fight amelia and literally kill her in 6 hits with your Fire Saw Spear
>Run to Forest, get Tonsil Stone, get Roar, get Nourishing/Arcane Gem, go up to clinic get Summons
>Get yourself grabbed by Amy, get Augur from Lecture Hall, go shit on Witches, get to Cainhurst and grab Executioners Gloves and Chunks
>Go to DLC - check out the cave with Minigun Hunter for chunks, and the area behind 2nd lamp before Ludwig - +8/9 your Saw Spear
>Shit on Ludwig, get the Brain Fluid from the Research Hall and get Milkweed Rune + Blacksky Eye - poop all over Failures/Maria (Augur Destroys Maria)
>Put on Milkweed Rune before entering Fishing Hamlet, first guy will give you Acursed Brew
>Get the Lightning gem from the fish packing facility and farm two radials from the guys with long spears who cast lightning
>Go and kill Orphan for ayylmao tentacles
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>>389150986
This reminds me a lot of my first playthrough of BB. I couldn't defeat Vicar Amelia no matter how hard I tried, and I eventually gave up. The next day, in the morning I beat her first try. It was a wild feeling.
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I don't think anybody ever uses it but the Flamesprayer is pretty based, lads. A +3 can completely roast BSB in less than 10 seconds.
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>>389147310
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>>389150986
>can't beat the BSB
You can't strafe left?
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>>389151428
The Starter Axe is arguably the best Strength weapon in the game, and the Saw Cleaver is probably the second best weapon period - the starting weapons are legit as fuck

>>389152150
Yeah it's pretty fun to do an Arcane playthrough with it - but it just falls off so hard since it cant be gemmed. You can easily do the arcane route i listed above with Flamesprayer - and it also allows you to skip the Workshop gem and Chalice Dungeons. - but good luck later in when you're trying to do stuff like Ludwig with Flamesprayer.

For maximum fun, try dumping pure ARC - Bone Marrow Ashing and Oil Urning Amelia or Paarl and watching their HP bar evaporate
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>>389152276
No.
Axe is great.
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>>389151318
If memory serves the saw spear is better but it's also pretty boring IMO.
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>>389151767
>kind of stuck with blood starved beast
>keep dying just as he has in inch of health left
>keep grinding from central yarnaham to old yarnam to get my stats up
>leveling up health and strength like a motherfuck
>"okay lets do some endurance"
>gib sexdoll like 26000 blood thingys
>my stats which previously went up by like 6 are now only going up by 2

Oh boy did i fuck up by focusing so hard on just health and stength and not doing this evenly?
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>>389151428
Hunter's Axe is one of the best STR weapons and handguns are only used for parrying so yes.
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>>389151318
>>389152397
Saw Spear is serrated in both it's tricked and untricked forms wheras Saw Cleaver is only serrated in it's tricked form

The Saw Spear has a slightly wider transform attack range and an (arguably but pretty much) better Tricked move set
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>>389152405
BSB is an optional boss. Anyway he's weak to fire and you can lure him away with blood cocktails that will let you land a free hit or two on him.
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>>389152276
So the axe makes me a pretty girl in a comfy jumper?...
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>>389152405
What are your stats at? Honestly endurance doesn't need to be levelled up at all if you can manage stamina properly, but it's not like it hurts. Levelling past like 20 is a huge a waste of echoes for it though. Vitality never hurts though, so it's not like you wasted them then.

You're doing way less damage then you should be if you haven't levelled your weapon though, no matter how much strength/skill you have. Upgrading the weapon is more important.
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>>389152580
Where SHOULD i be going because i feel like i am now stuck in old yarnham if BSB is only optional.
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>>389151807
I found a couple while fleeing/shrieking my way through the Unseen Village in search of a lanterb after I was hunternapped by an abductor for the first time.
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>>389152680
How embarresing, give me a sec will post
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>>389150986
Reminds me of my first playthrough
I can beat the BSB in one go without needing antidotes now fugg [/endspoiler]
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>>389152113
That's been my experience with Gascoigne and BSB so far. Absolutely ganked by both of them over and over again all night, then down them both the first try the following evening.

>>389152105
I was kinda panicky while attempting to throw the cocktails, then when I actually placed one well, I went full retard and didn't move close enough when I tried to power attack him, so I kept missing.
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>>389152720
Witches
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>>389152405
Endurance is arguably the least important stat in BB (outside of those not in your build I.E Arc on a Bloodtinge build etc)

Nearly all of my endgame (Even BL 150) builds have 20 or less Stamina. Levelling HP and STR is what you SHOULD be doing early game.

For BSB if you've explored Old Yharnam properly then you will have found the following
>Fire Paper
>Pungent Blood Cocktails
>Antidotes
>Beast Blood Pellets

Run into the boss room and then head to the right side where the pillars are - hurl a Blood Cocktail at the wall and use the Fire Paper + Beast Blood Pellet

Spam 2 or 3 Transform attacks (L1, builds Beast Gauge the fastest) into it's back then throw another Cocktail into the wall - repeat. The boss shouldn't even get a chance to move.
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>>389152405
It's pretty much a rule in Souls that weapon upgrades are far more valuable than damage stats. Not only is the raw damage added much more valuable than the stat levels you're pumping in, but leveling the weapon also improves the scaling which retroactively makes damage stats more valuable.

For Bloodborne specifically, I would argue that pumping only vitality to 30 out of the gate would be the absolute best use of your levels. Stamina usage is really low in the game so you don't need endurance, and early game you aren't going to get much damage out of strength and skill at all. Health keeps you alive, is the biggest benefit you can have early on, and the game doesn't suffer from what happens in Souls since blood vials are a % rather than a flat amount.
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>>389152720
Buy emblem from the messangers for 10k to open the gate in Cathedral Ward.
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>>389152680
Please no bully about fonepost, where am i at considering im in oldyarnham? How to be better?

1/2
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>>389151428
also most people use the pistol for the entire game, even when using optimized builds

the only builds that don't use the starting pistol are bloodtinge builds
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>>389153185
2/2
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>>389152637
wanna play bb together
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>>389153156
Jesus christ wat? Thats kind of a cheap gimmick, how was i aupposed to know that? No in game thingy for it? Just literally pay for it??
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>>389153185
This looks fine, honestly. I would recommend checking the bath shops for gear with higher poison resistance for Bloodstarved. It's worth spending insight for boss outfits, and I think Gascoigne's has high poison if I remember correctly.

Probably the only time it's ever worth caring about resistance values, except for Frenzy.
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>>389151428
Hunter Axe is 100% the best weapon in the game in everything except raw speed.
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>>389149013
Staif has a great moveset. Great for quality builds.

Who here Boom Hammer?
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>>389153185
>>389153254
You're overlevelled, but your build isn't really fucked up assuming you're using a weapon that scales with Strength. I wouldn't put any more points into Endurance, but it's up to you if you feel like you need it. A +3 weapon is exactly where you should be at Old Yharnam.

You should know that your stats hit a soft cap at 40 (50 for vitality) where you get severely diminishing returns after that and there's no point in levelling past that.
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>>389153331
There is also another way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUtgojr-Ltc

but paying is quicker
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>>389152105
That's really detailed. Thanks, anon.
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>>389153185
>>389153254
fine, you might be a bit overleveled if anything

your build is fine so far

>>389153331
there's another way to get there
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>>389153331
>how was i aupposed to know that?

You weren't, you're supposed to beat BSB.
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>>389152276
1.Most people pick the cane because it a cane looks good and wear a top hat, it's the most reddit weapon you can get or the most associated with reddit, with people valuing looks over functionality. With people rarely if ever talking about the axe.

2. The axe is a strength build,the cane is dex why would you make the cane a strength build in your pic. It's fucking retarded. At least change the characters.
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>>389152105
here's a guide I saved when I was working on my alien
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>>389151807
Forbidden Woods and Hemlock Witchs Lane for tbss. You find them in abundance later.
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>>389153331
No there's another incredibly obvious way to get there and if you read the item description it literally tells you

>>389153534
Thanks, take an image
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>>389153156
I beat the BSB instead of buying the emblem, does that lift in the temple of Oedon take me to the other side?
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>>389153415

I tried out the boom hammer on a STR build for shits and giggles and got mixed results personally, not just because I had no arcane. It's really fun, but having to "trick" the weapon every time you wanted to add the fire buff was tough to work into the combos as opposed to just switching between states like with the other weapons.

That being said, I didn't spend much time with it. If you were to properly gem it out and have the stats to take advantage of the scaling I'm sure it could be really great for high burst damage.
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>>389153415
>saif
>quality

that D scaling on STR surely will make a difference
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>>389153576
>>389153489

>you're over leveled

Hmm... this might be why i seem to be genociding every yharnam furry and other normal enemy. Nice to know its not all suffering in this game i guess...
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>>389153602
Functionally, the Threaded Cane is the most versatile weapon in the game.
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>>389153807
Yes.
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>>389153185
One more bit of info. Even though the hunter's axe has terrible skill scaling, it will still gain more from getting to 25 skill than from going to 50 strength from 25 strength. It's like this for most weapons, and skill plays heavily into visceral damage so it's worth it anyway.

So once you reach 25 strength, start leveling skill to 25, then switch back to strength and push that to 50. Get vitality to 30, and that's pretty much where you'll end up at the end of the game. Then I'd push Vit from 30 to 50 and you're done.
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>>389147310
I just think the cane is more fun than the axe or the cleaver/spear?
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>>389153185
I'm a dirty scrublet, and I beat the BSB at level 23, so you should be fine.
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>>389153185
>>389153254
Do a couple chalice dungeons for weapon upgrades, your build is spot on tho.
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>>389153921

You're a little bit over for the regular enemies, but DO NOT go for the dude with the minigun yet. He will make you his bitch and jam his stake driver right in your asshole.
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>>389154119
He can't even get to chalice dungeons yet if he's in Old Yharnam, stupid.
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>>389153254
>+3 weapon
>38 lvl
do you intentionally not pick up anything lad
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>>389151434
The thing about Chalice Dungeons is that the bosses often feel like they were cut content thrown back in. They can have serious hitbox issues(Looking at you, Watchdogs of the Old Lords). There's also the fact that you should do them the moment you get the chalice, so they feel somewhat challenging. Other than that, they're a nice little addition that I wish showed up in DaSIII
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>>389154178
The dude that fires on you from the clocktower thing?
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>>389153852
>he goes by scaling

Kek
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>>389154178
i know
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>>389154178
>implying he won't jump off to his death instantly
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>>389154178
Just cheese him off the ladder
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>>389154192
How do you mean?
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>>389154473
>>389154475
Ah so this is the power of the /v/ gamer
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>>389154354

Yeah, Djura. He is outrageously overpowered compared to anything else you find in Old Yarnham.

There's ways to make him friendly, but they're just as difficult as killing him.

>>389154473
>>389154475

In my dozens of playthroughs I've seriously never had this happen.
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>>389153852
>ludwigs shitter
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>>389154354
You can cheese the shit out of him with your pistol and he eventually goes down. Or R2 hunter axe and send him flying off. Very satisfying.
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>>389154473
>>389154475
These. He killed me once, but the second time I got him to about half health, then he biffed it over the side and jobbed himself. Same thing happened when my buddy fought him.

>mfw
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>>389154119
>your build is spot on tho.

Thanks? Im ashamed to admit, i don't know what a build is, i just "do things" in ths game. It seemed like i needed more health so i just went with that. Also strength seemed to kill my enemies quicker.
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>>389154354
Wait til you meet some of the other hunters. When you find the one in Byrgenworth remember to control the flow with you pistol.
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>>389154570
>You are a skilled hunter - adept. Merciless. Half cut on blood. All the best hunters are...
>...that is why I must stop you.
>*gatling gun begins unloading on you from across the area*
>mfw
This was the moment I knew I was going to be seeing this game through to the end.
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>>389154727
build just means what stats you level and what weapon you use, it's a general video game term. are you new to video games?
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Why are Bloodborne threads always so comfy, lads?
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>>389155034
No. But i don't play a lot of games that have stats or "crafting" in them to be honest.
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>>389155130
Build just means what kind of character you're making. You're rocking a strength build. Someone pumping skill and using the cane is making a skill build.
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>>389154727
Toss a few into SKL for maximum output, it doesn't take much. First time I recommend str/skl, find a weapon you love and learn the maps, start a new game and build around your weapon choice. Weapon scaling doesn't mean crap if youre good with the weapon you like.
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>>389155104
Id have like to have seen a peace time Yharnam
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>>389155104
old enough game that most of the people who click on the threads are invested enough in the game to discuss it properly

wasn't like this at launch, all the threads were full console wars
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>>389155228
i'd have liked to see a peace time literally anything in any souls game honestly

It's one of my biggest frustrations with the series, always coming to stuff after it has fallen to ruin has gotten really old.

Seeing Cainhurst at it's peak would have been fucking phenomenal
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>>389146872
There is a follow up r2 after the fully charged r2, OP. It's a golf swing, try it.
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>>389153602
I fail to see how using a weapon fitting of the setting is reddit. Also I fail to see how choosing looks over functionality is reddit. I think you're just insecure.
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>>389153415
>>389154391
not the guy you are replying to but why is it good for quality builds?
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Watch Prepare to Try when you feel like you need comfyness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca7LnxO2QZA&list=PLraFbwCoisJCjCmPwu55sWL-cm-Rk3dH1
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Beast cutter is a pile of shit I remember some people shilling it at one of best STR weapons.

Yeah C scaling when fully uprgaded is truly amazing and the rally potential as well as damage on it are shit.

STR weapons tier go as follow

S tier - Whirling Saw

A tier - Kirkhammer, Hunter's Axe

obsolete tier - everything else
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>>389155395
I use one str weapon and one skl weapon for my quality. Scaling means very little with the right gems. Also, dat moveset.
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>>389155343
I had no idea. Gonna try this out after work.
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>>389155585
You're retarded and your opinions are shit.

Beast Cutter is great because of it's moveset and the fact that it's serrated - not everything is about muhh damage stats. It's also great at dealing with groups - and has high knockdown/stagger which makes it safe.
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>>389153602
>not picking the default sword or axe makes you reddit now
ok kiddo
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Is everyone in Cathedreal ward drunk, crazy or both? Sound like a bunch of pissed up sickofants.
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>>389155585
if it's about damage without buffs, holy ludwig blade much better
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>>389155585
>kirkhammer shills vs beastcutter shills
Both are trash weapons
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>>389155692
I agree. Some anons are after 'muh scaling.'

Git gud
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What's the best OST in Bloodborne and why is it The First Hunter?
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>>389155786
blood drunk and gone mad basically

if you live in a city that gives out blood infected with beasthood and has all kinds of eldritch ayy lmao shenanigans going on - you'd sound a little bit crazy too

Ludwig brought the townsfolk in on the Hunt, and most of them used Blood heavily - hence them going blood drunk and becoming beastly

also it's sycophant
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>>389155786
They were exposed to blood, driving them mad.
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>>389151332
To add to this, if you're willing to go through with the chalice dungeons until you get the depth 5 root chalices, you can get a couple more from chests. /bbg/ has a guide for that.
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Pretty bummed that the dlc isn't on sale with the game.
Bought the game a few months ago and have been waiting for it to drop a bit.
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>>389156154
You won't play the DLC until near end game anyway, play the base game if you haven't yet
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>>389155907
You appear to have misspelled the word "Old". Also, Hunters is plural.

Specifically; Laurence, Ludwig and Maria, in that order.
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Should I pick up the DLC and go through it on my first playthrough, or wait for NG+?
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>>389156154
if you can afford it , it really, really is worth it

i'm super tight fisted when it comes to DLC but it's literally a Shivering Isles tier DLC
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>>389156239
I've played through it once and was waiting for the dlc to play it again to try out some of the new weapons.

>>389156297
I'll do some soul searching and maybe buy it later if its really that good.
I know it's only 20 bucks but I try not to buy full price dlc on principle.
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>>389156154
Its worth every cent. I go in and do an item run at lvl 50. I would go get it, but maybe beat the base game first then play it on a new file
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>>389156291
i finished the main game and then went into the DLC

it made it a little easy sure, but it was still challenging and amazing to experience. I was B 99, i'd say BL 70 or so is optimal but it's largely unimportant
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>want to play dlc
>didn't eat 3 umbilical cords and killed Ghermnan thinking I'd fight moon presence
>don't want to play dlc on NG+
>start new file
>don't talk to Eileen outside chapel, quest disappears
>can't summon old hunter Henryk to fight Rom
>tfw can't beat Rom on my own
>can't progress in game any further and dlc is too hard right now
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>>389156291
DLC is already hard enough and NG+ makes it harder
You'll most likely want to make multiple playthroughs to try all the weapons anyway, try to finish the game once first
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>>389155819
Ludwig's is quality and quality builds are agnosticism of gaming
>hurr I'm a faggot who cannot take a side XD
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>>389156505
She might have died somehow. I only talk to her in the sewers. Henryk should appear no matter what.
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>>389156505
I didn't even know you could summon Henryk for Rom
Besides isn't there another old hunter right before the gate
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>>389155907
Ludwig The Holy Blade. The First Hunter is number two.
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>>389155692
>moveset
>generic fucking club like shit and a slow whip
woah so amazing

Whirling Saw is also serrated and it shits on it
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>>389156505
Do some chalices for levels. Or just beat Rom, Christ, he's not that hard.
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>>389156749
If youre a league confederate there is another right by the lamp as well. Best one for the fight desu
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Trick weapons are a stupid fucking gimmick because vast majority of them are only good in one form anyway.
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>>389156846
And saw is only useful at short range and is shit at dealing with packs

Theres a reason you can equip two weapons anon - to deal with different situations.

And the whip moveset is useful in a number of scenarios - funny how you totally ignored the point about it staggering/knocking down and it's use vs packs
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>>389155747
They're all default
kiddo
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>>389155368
>Also I fail to see how choosing looks over functionality is reddit.
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>>389157050
whirling saw is good in every situation I never had a need for shit cutter even Saw Cleaver is better
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>>389157047
Multiple weapons is a stupid fucking gimmick because only one of them can be the best anyway
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>>389157047
imagine being this fucking retarded
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>>389156827
Ludwig is best boss also.
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every fucking bloodborne player spams only one form then talks about how deep the combat is lmao

I'm sure R1 spam with Saw Cleaver takes much effort.
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>>389157050
Tricked whirligig saw has a wide sweeping attack that's great for dealing with packs. Away! Away!
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Just finished getting the platinum trophy last night. I don't care if the Holy Blade is the "noob weapon" It's so cool and I love it so much. It was my main tool through the game with the Burial blade being my second through the DLC and Chalice Dungeons. Moonlight Great sword is also amazing. I love great swords
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Threaded Cane attracts the biggest cunts
>hehe classy weapon *tips top hat*
elegance is for women and faggots a male hunter should be gritty like Bascogn.
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>>389157516
When i figured out transformation attacks, I got good at the game. Just because someone could do nothing but R1 doesn't mean the combat is shallow, they're just using the entire moveset. I do wish that chaining multiple weapon combos was fluid. Like switching from weapon 1 to weapon 2 mid combo.
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Reiterpallasch is the true gentleman weapon.
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best gun
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>>389157874
But I am a woman
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>>389158005
I agree with you there anon.
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>>389152105
>fire paper
why bother? flame sprayer exists and bullets are free.
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>>389157874
mad af
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is there a lore synopsis or something because I feel like I didn't get the whole picture of what actually happened in Yharnam
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Look at me I'm so shit at this game that I need a beast cutter to snipe someone from half of the map! Woaaah such a good weapon it takes me 10 minutes to kill a boss that I could kill in 3 minutes if I was using any other weapon but it's ok dmg doesn't matter because I suck so much I will never make it to NG+ where you need as much dmg as possible.
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>>389158281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjWOy6ioVHI
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>>389150186
Tonitrus is fucking great
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I love swords, the moment I started playing BB I immediatly thought 'oh fuck I hope there's a sexy sword laying somewhere'
And then I found it, the holy sword, you shitters are just jealous your trick weapons are ugly as fuck, who the fuck would like to use a giant ass wheel or a disgusting curved chinese knockoff sword
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>>389146872
All weapons are viable, but some are easier than others. LHB will make your first run a lot easier, as will the Saw Spear.

Finish the game, save, then test out weapons by upgrading (you'll have plenty of materials at that point) and then loading an old save and upgrading something else. You'll find your groove and what you really enjoy.
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>>389158165
Post eyes or gtfo
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>>389150597
this dont listen to min max fags that prepare for pvp that doesnt exist
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>>389158281
Read this to get a good base.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL5acskAT_2t062HILImBkV8eXAwaqOj611mSjK-vZ8/mobilebasic

Then watch these.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWmr0SQmJ64bt6mabLClTYa1r_hSdjO4M
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzGMMy3ptxzZ8L5SxNSVGSvs8e8IdHVH3

And if you have autism.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ17Wuu7rVt7ytbFGwAHZSzq2kZKqRlfw
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>>389146872
Do your first playthrough following your gut feel OP, choose the weapon you like, read the descriptions in the items, really think about what are you doing wrong and how and then improve, just enjoy the game, don't be afraid to explore but do it carefully, don't forget to break shit that looks it can be broken, everyone here will give you great advice, do listen, but always follow that gut feeling that tells you what to do
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>>389157214
Yeah that didn't really explain it. If anything you're saying that makes the game more difficult which would seem to be a good thing unless it's your first souls game.
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>>389158734
So much this.
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>>389155368
They all fit the setting, dumbass. Otherwise they won't be in the game.
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>>389159273
That's very nice but I was only talking about the cane.
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>>389159365
And since they all fit the setting, your special snowflake reason to pick the cane is moot.
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>>389146997
Play through the game using kirkhammer exclusively in hammer mode. guns are for pussies. Playing whack a mole through the whole game is the most fun I had. Orphan of Kos with hammer only is a fun and challenging fight.
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>>389159119
>If anything you're saying that makes the game more difficult
Might wanna re-read my posts there or at least try to read normally, that is if you can.
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>>389155585
here are the three best weapons in the game

>Saif
>Saif
>Saif
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u get ludvig sword after bsb use that.
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>>389159781
>Play through the game using kirkhammer exclusively in hammer mode
I thought that's how most people use it. Why the fuck but a hammer to use it as a sword?
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>>389156846
Pair that shit with Gatling gun and the beast cutter can wreck even in PvP and no, the moveset is great, it just requires getting more used to than other weapons.
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>>389159816
My african bother.
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Do I want the prostitutes blood or the nuns blood?
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>>389146872
the weapons in Bloodborne are balanced so you can play through the whole game with any weapon.

serated weapons are good for beasts and thrusting weapons are good for kin.
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>>389160080
Speaking of those bitches, how do I make the prostitute go full yandere?
I've played through the game a dozen times but I've never seen it.
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>>389160080
Whore's blood, as often as possible.
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>>389159816
If I had to pick the 3 best weaons in the game I'd say

>saw Spear
Top tier moveset, bad scaling but it deals serrated damage in both forms. Best weapon for alien.

>Saif
Top tier moveset, easily the best weapon for skill builds. Lacks serrated damage but it still hits like a truck. It has the best L1s in the game and it's not even close. Best weapon for pvp so if you get invaded you know you will win. This is my favorite weapon in the game. The thing I like the most about it is that its best possible gems are just 27.2% gems, you don't need to farm fucking abyssals.

>Cleaver
It's cool.

Now if I had to pick the absolute coolest weapons in the game

>Saif again
>Church pick
>Moonlight sword
>Bloodletter
>twink wheel
>Pizza cutter AKA boss destroyer
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>>389160080
arcanelets like the stam. AYYs know to take constant healing so they can get more bullets.
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>>389160312
>prostitute go full yandere?
Is that a thing?
If you take too much blood from the whore, the nun will flip out and go yandere killing the whore.
Whore only goes crazy after giving birth.
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>Everyone hating on rifle spear

Good range, quick, and the trick charged R2 is amazing for cheesing some fights.

I just really like spears
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>>389157979
That's something they could add in BB 2. I fucking love Bloodborne and would love to see a sequel sometime down the line. They could also do something like switching entire builds on the fly(I know it sounds like DMC but I love DMC too.)
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Why use Church pick in sword form?
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>>389150986
In my second playthrough I killed it poisoned without any itens left, the poison killed me right after it
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>>389160604
People are still pissed because early the weapon was completely broken, able to oneshot anything and used for griefing.
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>>389153185
What the fuck. You're way overleveled for this fight, like, overleveled for 3 boss fights ahead. But you got the points in the right places, so just upgrade your weapon and refrain from leveling a little bit
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>>389146872
Rifle spear used to be op when arcane gems affected it, but now it's okay. Stake Driver is worth if you build both str and dex. It has short range but high stagger rate if you're just building strength, stick with the Kirk.
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>>389156729
Quality is always better than pure STR or DEX since its the best of both worlds.
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>>389161734
>what the fuck

Why is it bad to be overleveled anyway? And as for being overleveled i just tried my first ever fight with Amelia but only got her down to like 30% of health before i died. Im not very good desu
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>>389162473
>Why is it bad to be overleveled anyway?

Mitigates the challenge from what's supposed to be a challenging game. Only autists make a big deal out of it, but it's a shame.
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>>389162926
But... the game is making it really easy to level up... conventional JRPG wisdom is telling me thats what im supposed to do. I mean, how am i supposed to know where the right level is or not? Sounds to me like anons are just deciding to make life difficult on themselves
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>>389163582
I find it hard to believe you got to that level without grinding.
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>>389163776
Yes. I did, thats what i just said >conventional JRPG wisdom would suggest i need to over level"
I don't really know souls games, and im not reading guides, im just doing what comes naturaly and rwading notes. This thread is the most i have discussed it actually.
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Noob here. What are my stat allocations if I want to use LHB?
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>>389163971
Well I'd argue with the idea that JRPGs encourage you to grind, it's always been a crutch for people who aren't good at the game. People get a little miffed at people who grind in action RPGs like Bloodborne because they feel it ruins the experience. Instead of facing the challenge head on and overcoming it you're just getting overpowered. It's a valid way to play, but it's a bit boring.
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>>389155104
>>389155323
Maybe if they didn't combine the Old Hunters into a single DLC, and made two like they planned

>Irreverent Izzy
>See the older Workshops in their prime
>interactions between the factions (Church Hunters/Byrgenwerth/Mensis)
>The Unseen Village before the Nightmare claimed it

>Cainhurst at it's peak
How would a Annaliese boss fight go?
>similar to Maria, uses traditional attacks before relying on blood attacks
>the statues act barriers, changing the layout of the boss room or turning into mobs for you to destroy to get to her
>soundtrack would be piano based, with a Cainhurst minion playing the piano in the room
>if you kill the minion the theme changes and it'll have more vocals in it because of statues
>(optional/passive): if you have been collecting Blood Dregs and giving it to Annaliese prior to this fight, when she 'dies', you have to fight the Child of Blood
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>>389164587
Annaliesse would fight like Yharnam - she's basically her reincarnation in nearly every regard.
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Any tips on fighting living failures? I fucking suck at bosses where there's more than one of them
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>>389157726
>platinum trophy
Did you get an email about the free theme?
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>>389164408
Well, thats the community i guess. I got into BB without a community and just went for it. Maybe if the game had bottlenecked me from doing so, but considering the harahness of the world it seems to encourage me to protect my blood and fortify myself with it often, and if that means a little grind, well it even just respawns everyone just as before.

Im just doing what the game lets me to take advantage of it, i hadn't considered a "make it by the akin of your teeth" playstyle.
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>>389164687
You can get a backstab off as they're spawning if you keep an eye out and catch them quickly. Think they're easy to poison with knives too.
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>>389164982
>harahness
made me think of haram and chuckled
I get your point though
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>>389164042
why do you want to use that shit

25str/50skill is the best quality option
50str/25skill only if you want to use pizza cutter too.
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Is there a way to keep track of new game counts I'm pretty sure I'm on new game+6.
I'm on SL. 200 or close to it.
I grinded the pigs and shadows for a long time. They give 500k echoes each run.
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>>389152580
optional?
What do you mean?
isn't BSB normal progression?
Buying the key from the messengers seems to be a shortcut and mainly for ng+ given it's price.
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>just went to an old area
>tall man who wasn't there before REKS me with a potato bag
>just woke up in... a Prison?

.......okay. What. Is. Going. On. Now?
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>>389166654
Killing him is part of what I'd call standard progression, but he is technically optional.
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>>389156846
>Whirling
Are you deliberately avoiding calling it by its glorious proper name? Have you no whimsy? Embrace the Whirligig in your heart anon!
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>>389167309
those things are walking free blood echoes
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>>389155104
No PClosers.
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>>389167510
But where have i been taken?
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>>389167309
>>
opinions on burial blade
is it decent for a skill/arcane build?
are hybrid builds even good compared to pure builds? or does that not even matter?
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Wanted to play through the game again for the first time since the DLC came out and I just got to Gherman in like 2 days. Decided to go for a skill build this time so I got the Beasthunter Saif ASAP.

Its fun, but it will never compare to the Kirkhammer. The stagger power on that thing made it ridiculous.
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>>389167731
to jail
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>>389167731
kid, this here is the best area in the game
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>>389167895
it's a waste of arcane stat.
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>>389167965
>>389167951
This is pretty spook lads
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>>389168110
Enjoy it pal
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How do we fix Bloodborne's awful bosses?
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>>389168268
Bloodborne has the best bosses in the series. Mandatory bosses are a bit too easy, but they're good fights.
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>>389168665
>Cleric Beast
>Darkbeast Paarl
>The One Reborn
>Micolash
>Celestial Emissary
>Rom
>Witch of Hemwick
>Moon Presence
No.
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>>389168837
One Reborn is shit. Moon Presence is way too easy for a final boss. The rest are great.
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>>389169053
>Witch of Hemwick
>good
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>>389169053
How are Witch of Hemwick and Micolash great? And Cleric Beast and Darkbeast Paarl can be beaten by staying close to their feet and mashing R1, Paarl in particular since you can lock him down because his legs collapse.

Bloodborne's base games bosses are by and large awful.
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>me and a buddy play this game and avoid all spoilers and guides
>utterly confused and make our own theories as to why shit is happening the way it is
>slowly uncover the story with a bro as we have strong debates in our pursuit of the truth

10/10 game
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>>389169241
Micolash is good only because of lore
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Here you go OP
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>>389168232
w-why do the small ones scream?
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>played through a good chunk of the base game on a friend's PS4
>don't have a PS4 and am itching for more

Why is the world so cruel?
Buying a console just for one game feels bad, bros.
Also, Sony has acquired From Software so all their future games will be exclusives and rushed pieces of DLC shit.
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>>389170053
>Sony has acquired From Software so all their future games will be exclusives
Sounds like a good thing to me, DaS coming to PC is one of gaming's biggest travesty's.
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>>389168837
>Cleric Beast
Good first boss. Only real problem with it is the camera.
>Darkbeast Paarl
The problem is what? You can beat by hitting it's legs? It's not the best boss but if you get captured and taken there early on it can be a problem.
>The One Reborn
Looks disgusting but the fight is easy. Not that great of a boss.
>Micolash
Just a meme fight. Least I can say is that it's kind of different. But not really a fight.
>Celestial Emissary
Laziest boss in the game.
>Rom
Can be tedious more than anything if you take your time i'ts just a decent fight. The arena you fight it in is also cool.
>Witch of Hemwick
Could have been done a lot better. 2nd worst in the game.
>Moon Presence
Mediocre final fight.
Even with all that if we are comparing to other souls series. DaS1's, 2's, and 3's base bosses are not that great either.
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Who /churchpick/ here?
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>>389168110
>>389169882
just keep tuning up the stairs till you find a lamp then get out. You really can't do much but fight pearl.
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>>389170190
>DaS1's, 2's, and 3's base bosses are not that great either.
I never said they were, that's not an excuse for Bloodborne's also following the trend. Dark Souls and Bloodborne only reach masterpiece status when you factor in the Artorias of the Abyss and The Old Hunters respectively. Bloodborne also has a variety problem, most of the bosses are either humanoid (Gascoigne, Logarius, Gehrman) or big monstrosities that flail around relentlessly (Cleric Beast, Blood Starved Beast, Amelia, Amygdala, Moon Presence).

There are a handful of good fights in the base game like Logarius and Ebrietas are two of my favorites but I don't understand how they thought stuff like Celestial Emissary, Witch of Hemwick or The One Reborn were good ideas for bosses. From a presentation standpoint they're all 10/10 but from a gameplay standpoint but they all suck which is what matters.

I love the game but the bosses aren't something to be defending in my opinion.
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Is there anyway to dodge micholashes lasers?
It feels like if you get hit by one you die.
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>>389146872
Don't let these people fool you, Kirkhammer is fantastic on a pure strength build and is only surpassed by dlc weapons in terms of str scaling. I beat the entire game for the first time using only the kirkhammer and loved it. It fucking destroyed the Crow of Cainhurst. Use it as your primary weapon unless you want to switch to one of the dlc weapons that has better scaling.

Rifle spear is garbage unless you have a build specifically dedicated to bloodtinge.

Stake driver is the highest risk/highest reward weapon in the game. With the right gems, if you transform it and hit with a fully charged R2 you will fucking destroy virtually ANYTHING. I'm talking instant visceral attacks on giant bosses. Even defiled Amygdala, who it takes a third of its health bar just to its head to get it into visceral range, can do it in two hits. It is also extremely unwieldy. You have to master timing in order to use it. I would recommend keeping it as a secondary weapon and using it when you feel like having some fun/want to "stake" everything on a single winning blow. Don't forget that a fully charged R2 also does fire damage so maybe carry some oil with you.
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>>389168837
All those are good though.
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>>389146872
>using memehammer
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>>389170928
Amygdala is the easiest boss in the game right after the witches.
You just hit her legs and when she jumps stay still.
I don't know why people have trouble with her. And yes even the defiled amygdala.
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>>389170925
Shoot him when you see him start to channel it or like every other boss just stay close to him and spam attack.
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>>389171159
yeah that's how I normally best him I just dyad close to him I was wondering if it's possible to dodge his lasers.
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>>389171250
It always seemed random to me unlike Ebrietas' where you easily dodge them provided you were running perpendicular to him, I don't have much experience with his though since I just stay on top of him and bait out his tentacle thing and then just attack him and repeat that until he's dead.
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>>389171393
her*
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>>389153694

Why is is everyone recommending the saw spear over the saw cleaver?

Saw cleaver is the best pve weapon in the game....
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OP, enjoy this while you can. This is some of the best videogaming you will ever do. That first slog to beat a boss that keeps killing then finally beating it. It never feels that good again but you'll be hooked looking for the next challenging boss.
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>>389170772
HOLY SHIT PEARL WAS EASY WTF. I REKT HIM
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>>389171898
>Saw cleaver is the best pve weapon in the game....
That's Ludwigs Giant Cock
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>>389150986
>tfw same thing happened for me with Gehrman and Martyr Logarius
There are very few feelings better than barely making it through a fight, that feeling of all the focus you've put into the fight just kind of being expunged is the best feeling
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>>389171898
Not memeing when I say this but I think the Axe is easy mode. It breaks the game.
A charged r2 staggers if not in ok backs every enemy in the game.
You know that lvl99 guy who's meant to be hard. I beat him so easily just by spamming charged r2s. I didn't even lose once or anything. Sure I fought him later normally and got my ass handed to me but any time I want to just beat an enemy all I do charged and they become jokes.
It's ridiculous.
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>>389172278
Welcome to every Bloodborne boss: Hug their feet and mash R1.
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>>389172503
Yeah but that was absurd. Something i was doing was causing him to lose his lectric and get all stunned.
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>>389172278
I always struggle with the cursed one. Wait did you summon?
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>>389172583
>Yeah but that was absurd.
Not that much different from Cleric Beast or Amelia, you can put them in a similar state through aggression as well but yes Paarl is definitely a trash tier boss. Amelia is pretty good though and it's funny hearing people complain that she's hard despite being easy as fuck assuming you've upgraded your weapons.
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>>389172783
I got her down to 30% health on my first go, im tougher now so will try again. No context on her unlike Gasgoine so far though... maybe i missed something...
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>>389173535
Make sure to hug her sides and back, she can't hit you as easily but the most important thing of that fight is to stay aggressive. As long as your weapon is upgraded enough so you should be able to offset her healing.

Personally never had a problem with her but BSB always takes me five tries minimum for some reason even with the dodge left stuff.
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Guys i just beat pearl and have returned to centreal yanham for a bit... are things getting brighter? Central looks colourful as fuck for some reason
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>>389173683
No? Yahar'Gul is a bit darker, maybe that's why CY seems brighter to you.
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>>389153331
Bloodborne only has like six mandatory bosses. The rest are optional, and a few are very missable.
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>>389174321
I never thought about it but you're right.
>Gascoigne
>Amelia
>Shadow of Yharnam
>Rom
>Micolash
>Mergo
Are those the only ones?
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>>389167309
Abductors. They appear in the cathedral ward and beyond after you kill the Blood-Starved Beast. Run out the cell, to your right, up the first set of stairs, then wait near the top of the second set. An abductor will walk down them and into a room, away from you. Wait until he's a fair distance away, then run up the stairs he just came down, and you'll see a lantern at the foot of a giant spindly fucked up statue. I'd suggest GTFOing, because that's an area you'll hit later in the game (the Unseen Village) and the enemies there can fuck you up pretty easy.

t. just got captured and escaped last night
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>>389174572
One reborn
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>>389174572
You've got to do either Cleric or Bloodstarved. Not both, but one or the other. And >>389174745
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>>389174745
Including One Reborn are those the only bosses mandatory to see the credits roll then?
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>>389174572
Either cleric or BSB is mandatory.

Killing cleric beast unlocks the hunter chief emblem which unlocks the gate to cathedral ward, or killing BSB opens the door in oedon chapel that takes you to the healing church workshop/back end of cathedral ward.
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>>389174657
That anon here, i fucking genocides the whole area and murdered pearl on my first go and opened the door to old yharnam .This place was a fucking joke.
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>>389174817
I thought you could buy the emblem from the Hunter's Dream.
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Just killed moon presence.
What a disappointing fight.
>"imma reduce your hp to 1"
"Cool enjoy the flogging fag"
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>>389174926
Only shows up if you have the badge from Cleric.
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>>389174869
Oh ok, that answers >>389174926 then. So there are eight mandatory bosses in BB with you getting to choose between either Cleric or BSB.
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>>389152364
The axe is a cheese weapon for shitters that.
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>>389174910
Then you are a better hunter than I, lad. The abductors themselves slapped my shit sideways, so I bailed hard. What level are you? I'm about 25 or so.
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>>389153512
You need to kill the BSB to open that door.
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>>389146872
Doing my first playthrough now, just finished up the flic and am back in Amygdala's chamber. Where do I go from here
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>>389175557
Uh i mean, im prolly not a better hunter, this is my level now, but i did a bit more leveling after beating pearl so i wasnt quite this high.

1/2
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>>389175847
Figure it out yourself.
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>>389175847
Nightmare Frontier is optional, there's nowhere to go from there.
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>>389175909
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>>389175932
It was optional? Where am I meant to go then?
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>>389173683
it gets brighter after you beas gascone
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>>389176802
Does it really?
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>>389176787
Unseen Village -> Lecture Hall -> Nightmare of Mensis.
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>>389176802
Why?
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thinking about doing a new char that mains the blades of mercy?

how are they i hear mixed things about them
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What's the consensus on Doll-chan?
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>>389176880
>>389177019
Moon phases progress throughout the game
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>>389177335
Creeps me the fuck out when she's standing up top.
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>>389146872
If you like kirkhammer, save up for ludwigs holy blade. Very versitile moveset in big form, same silver sword moveset as kirk in small form.

You can unlock ludwigs now since you killed bsb. Go back to cathedral ward lamp. That locked door on the right is now up. Go all the way up the tower and open a chest for the silver sword badge which will allow you to buy new church themed weapons, like ludwigs holy blade.
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>>389177058

one-hand mode is not good, basically only useful for parries/viscerals. two hand mode is really good, combos hard and fast, dodging attacks get extra strength, the special attack is a good mixer.
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>>389176953
Is there another exit from the Lecture Hall apart form the Frontier?
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>>389177337
Shits on fire yo. Godamn Yharnam is beautiful but sad. It looks like the city i live in irl sometimes. Plz no bully fone post
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>>389177545
>>389146872

To elaborate more on this. In greatsword form, you have on commamd vertical attacks, crowd hitting side swipes, and a thrust with good reach. Ludwigs is a must have for any str build.
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LHB seems to trivialize the whole game and then MLGS trivializes it further. Game was far easier than DaS1-3 when I went through it with that. Does Kirkhammer do the same thing? I never tried it since I made my choice between it and LHB and never looked back
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>>389177878
Yes, to the Nightmare of Mensis but that's only from the top floor which you have to beat The One Reborn to access whom you need to go through Unseen Village to fight.
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For you guys with the dlc check out the beast hunter saif
Utilizing its transform attacks in combos is both the most fun ive had and they are actually really useful moves when you put them to good use
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>>389154570
Happened to me on my first. I was disappointed because I wanted a big showdown with this asshole who had been taking potshots at me and he just backed up off the building.
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>>389178194
Alright I guys i've just got to explore harder caused I totally missed that boss

>>389178513
To me it feels just like the saw cleaver, nothign special
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>>389178591
All the Hunter fights are pretty poorly handled since they have both infinite health and stamina. Bloody Crow and the three in the chapel at Yahar'ghul are even bigger offenders.
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>>389147310
cleaver for wreaking early bosses serrated bonus +fire paper +beast blood+ oil = death to all beasts

Axe for easier time with dealing with enemies

cane =killing with style
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>>389178771
This image makes me think sexual thoughts
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>>389146872
should I buy the game now or wait until the CE is on sale?

Is Old Hunters a good expansion?
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>>389178771
>infinite health
Meant to say bullets, not sure why I said health.
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>>389178847
Old Hunters is pretty fucking good.
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>>389178847

Old Hunters is great.

>>389178768

Saif is like the saw cleaver but faster, with the extended mode actually being useful.
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Should I go Kirkhammer or LHB?
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>>389178847
Old Hunters is the only reason the game is good honestly. It saves the base game from its train wreck of what it passes off as boss fights.
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>>389178768
Its faster in normal mode, heavier in tricked, but the big thing is its transform attacks whitch are fun and really usefull for both pve and pvp
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Why are fellow hunters in Yharnam also killing me?
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>>389179465
Consumed by Bloodlust and factions like Vilebloods will kill anything for their blood.
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>>389178194
Just beat the one unseen, is he supposed to just stand still for a minute or did I luck out on some glitch?
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>>389178989
Whichever you like more, they feel real different from each other
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>>389178989
LHB if you want to make the game very easy.
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>>389178989
For a first playthrough probably LHB. It's R2 range and AR is pretty ridiculous. Kirkhammer takes a little more strategy but landing a charged R2 or the followup is satisfying af.
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>>389152405
Don't put Endurance past 20 at most. If you feel you absolutely need more then put more in but try to keep it below 15, the less you have the more conscious you are of stamina management which will really help in the long term. Points in Vit are never wasted (before level 50, I think's the cutoff). If you want variety level Str and Skl equally (Str to 25, Skl to 25, then whichever you like more to 50), if you just want to be stronk stick to Str and you'll be fine. Upgrading a weapon is more important than levelling a stat because the upgrades increase the scaling which makes the levelling worthwhile to begin with. Blt and Arc are best ignored until you know what you're doing. Break the glass. Kill the dogs first.
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>>389179742
No, it's one of the worst fights in the entire series, they tried to recapture the Tower Knight fight but failed on a fundamental level. Great design and music though.
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What is Bloodtinge exactly? Is it the equivalent of magic in Demon's/Dark Souls games? Would Rifle Spear be a good weapon based on what >>389170928 said about it? I really want to make use of it.
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>>389179219
>pvping with saif
>using the slower tricked mode, hits a little harder
>other guy dodges backwards, the transform attack lets you catch them completely offgaurd by instantly closing the distance and putting you in supper dps mode, save last bit of stamina for the other transform attack wich ties the combo off with a heavy hit and auto back step to give you room to recover
I fucking love this thing
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>>389180332
It scales firearm weapons.

Rifle Spear
Reiterpallasch
Chikage
Evelyn
Hunter Pistol
Hunter Blunderbuss
Simon's Bowblade
Bloodletter

Those are the weapons effected by it.
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>>389180332
Bloodtinge affects gun damage and a few select weapons like rifle spear. Go with it and skill if you like shooting guns and getting big visceral attacks, otherwise you're better off leaving it low. Magic is more arcane but magic in BB is a bit different overall and also depends on bullets
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>>389180332
Bloodtinge ups gun damage and the damage of like, 4 weapons:

Chicago
Edgy blood mace
Swordbow
Tickle rifle
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>>389180332
Arcane is magic, bloodtinge mostly effects guns so they do real damage and are better than just parrying tools
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>>389180332
What these others said
>>389180516
>>389180647
I'll add that bloodtinge builds really only shine in endgame or PvP. For a first playthrough just get bloodtinge to wherever you need it for your firearm of choice then leave it alone. To do a proper bloodtinge build you have to be really familiar with the game and rush some things that normally aren't meant for early game. Pic related is the fucking GOAT though, easily my favorite weapon/build.
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>>389180917
Yeah it is my first playthrough, so I should get Rifle Spear to wear I can actually use the weapon then leave Bloodtinge where it is? Also by rush do you mean doing certain boss fights and reaching certain areas earlier than you usually would?
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Well shit, turret gun hunter just fell of the side, how do i get his item now??
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>>389181764
Reload, it will probably be there.
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Is the Fist of Gratia useful for anything? Im trying and it seems like it doesnt even parry, it just staggers
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>>389181764
WHY DOES EVERYONE KILL HIM?
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>>389182161
Because he tried to kill me?
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>>389182045
5:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pqb7IPC_fM

Git gud.
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>>389182161
The attempted murder?
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>>389182214
Guess Im shit then
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>>389182196
>>389182224
He didn't do anything wrong.
It's not beasts you're killing
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>>389182509
???
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>>389181842
The powder keg badge was waiting there for me when i reloded ye
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On my first playthrough, just got through the Forbidden Woods, fuck that place was annoying couldn't be any happier to get out of that shithole. Also, this thread made me want to try out Kirkhammer, hopefully I'll have even more with it than I am now.
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u-uh guys?? Anyone want to tell me who floaty ghost is up there in the sky?
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>>389182904
I liked the first part but the snakes are horrible enemies and are the main reason i cant consider my favourite game a 10/10
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>tfw just wrapped up an all-boss playthrough as Trevor Fucking Belmont
I literally can fathom using any weapon other than the cane. Two of my three characters and over 100 hours of playtime have been cosplay builds entirely around the cane.
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>>389183029
Me.
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How good is the beast claw now?
Been considering making a werewolf sorta build when I start another run.
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>>389183484
on the left? Or the right? Cmon anon be clear.
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Don't forget to do the chalice dungeons or else you miss out on a shitload of enemies/bosses (and even a weapon) that aren't even in the main game.
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>>389181751
>do you mean doing certain boss fights and reaching certain areas earlier than you usually would?
Yes. The best BT weapons are unlocked in Cainhurst which is an optional hidden area. This includes the Chikage (most BT builds weapon of choice) and to get that your have to beat Logarius which can be difficult for low level characters. The other really good BT weapons are in the DLC which is also not easy for low level characters. The rifle spear is really only affected by bloodtinge in the transformed mode when it's firing QS bullets. Untransformed its a quality weapon scaling off SKL/
STR. You're gonna lose some versatility using the rifle spear because your tricked version isn't gonna pack a lot of punch unless you level bloodtinge. It's a fun weapon but pretty unique and requires some major stat investment and finesse as a player. It wouldn't be my choice for a first run but if you want it, go for it.
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>>389183772
Yes.
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>>389183029
Probably a bug. Is it always there or just one time?
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>>389182509
They aint changing back my man. They're beasts now and as such must be hunted. Fuck that guy.
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>>389183029
It's the old iron king.
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>>389184340
Kekd
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>Best fight in the base game
>Is optional
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>>389184846
>le edgy skull magic man
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>>389184035
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>>389184846
>spam magic: the boss
>best boss
nope!
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>>389184846
>best
>breaks the camera
>has a broken attack animation
>boring but long to get to, even with all shortcuts
>rng decides if he either sets himself up for four viscerals or never does a parry-able attack
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