http://www.express.co.uk/entertainm ent/gaming/849304/PS4-v-

>>389136028
That article title reads like the ones in ads adblock allows me to now avoid.

>>389136028
older system, no excuse for no games

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FAKE NEWS!!

People buy ps4 to play blu ray not games. Horrible attach rate, etc.

We already had a tread for this:

>Media Create recently looked at the Switch and PS4’s first 26 weeks on sale in Japan, and their analysis was reported by Kotaku.

It's comparing the rate the PS4 SOLD in japan in its first weeks against the rate the Switch is SELLING right now. It's literally shitposting in article form.

Mab y because everyone who wanted a ps4 already bought one.
While the switch is fresh and new.

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>japanese sales

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The Switch is a tablet with mobile games. The PS4 is a real gaming platform with hardcore titles.

Compare the Switch and PS4 versions of Final Fantasy XV, for example. It's clear the Switch is not competing on equal terms.

>>389136361
Launch aligned dates.

Switch could outsell PS4 LTD this year alone in japan.

>>389136028
Doctors hate him!!

>>389136028
quite literally fake news

>>389136457
yet one of the highest rated game of all time is on switch.

PS4 can keep their shovelware.

>express.co.uk

nigga seriously?

>>389136547
Fuck your highly rated shill game. We all know the game didn't deserve more than a 9.

>beats switch sales everywhere except for in japan
>third party refuses to make exclusives for switch

such stunned wow

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4 year old console gets slighty outsold by 6 month old console*

*only in Japan

>>389136159
http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/24/ps4-has-a-better-software-attach-rate-than-ps2-and-wii-6402140/

>>389136653
Have you looked at the npd recently?

>>389136028
I hope, Switch is the way attract new generation gamers.

>>389136653
Damn, the PS4 will be impeached any day now.

>>389136753
I am sorry the new generation is smartphone exclusive

>>389136547
>yet one of the highest rated game of all time is on switch.
One or two Nintendo games doesn't change the fact that it's a mobile platform. It will only get mobile games by third-parties, especially now that Squenix have proven Switch users will buy it.

Have fun playing Clash of Clans on Wii U 2.0.

>>389136457
>that chibi Gladiolus
mobile port is gonna be really gud.

There are Nintendo shills out there right now, literally right now, who don't know that the switch is a handheld being advertised as a console.

>>389136260
How so? It's completely fair and objective.

>>389136028
>Current PS4 sales vs First weeks Switch sales
Sure showed us.

>>389136260
>It's comparing the rate the PS4 SOLD in japan in its first weeks against the rate the Switch is SELLING right now
What's wrong with that? Perfectly fair comparison.

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>>389136779
Not gonna lie, former Sony supporter here. This is fucking hilarious watching the PS4 crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this console get the nuclear codes.

>>389136457
>>389136547
But FFXV isn't coming to switch

>>389136547

And wiiU.
And Pc.

>>389136969
2 SCOOPS
2 GENDERS
2 TERMS
2 EXCLUSIVES

>>389136028
Wew, not even Kotaku and Polygon are that blatant with their clickbait titles.

>>389136069
>>389137085
Welcome to the UK. Every headline is like this here.

>>389136661
http://nintendoeverything.com/july-2017-npd-switch-outsells-ps4-and-xbox-one/

buddy

pal

friend

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>only talks about japanese sales
>meanwhile the PS4 outsells the switch 2:1 worldwide every single week

STUNNED
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>>389136457
and there we go the shit flinging has started, everything was civil and actually dismissive up until this point

>>389137234
PS4 even regularly outsells Switch + Xbone these days

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>>389136260
>SONYFAGS ON DAMAGE CONTROL

>>389136120

why is this guy playing mario kart in rush hour traffic

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It seems that the PS4's superiority has ruffled some feathers yet again.

>>389136028
>>389137085
Does anyone know how much clickbait sites actually make? I'll sell my soul to make a few bucks

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>>389136028
No surprise. The PS4 still doesn't have any games. When are they going to announce PS5? 2019? 2020?

>>389137417
The Daily Express isn't even a clickbait site. It's a popular British newspaper.

>>389136260
The thick of the PS4's sales were in the west right?

>>389137512
announce 2018 probably release 2020, dunno at this point the only things I see sony doing is releasing another hardware update or copying the switch

sony cant actually innovate by themselves for the fear of losing money is crippling since sony gaming is like one of the things keeping sony afloat

>>389137537
title of the article still sounds like clickbait though.

s a g e for absolute bait

sony losing to switch in japan SLAUGHTERED

sony beating switch everywhere else ?????

>>389136260
I don't understand how this isn't a huge deal. PS is huge in Japan too you know.

>>389137537
>>389137719
Pretty much all British newspapers are complete trash, except for one or two.

>>389137903
No, all of them. They all push their right-wing politics on you, excepting the Guardian, which pushes its milquetoast liberalism on you. They all use Tabloid headlines, they all go for money, and the Mail and the Sun are the biggest papers around.

>>389137890
Even in Japan the Switch is barely ahead by 3-4K sales every month, vs a 4 yo console
The switch is a fucking flop no matter how much damage control the drones do

>>389138118
It's compared to the 4 year old console's launch, not its present state.

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>>389136028
Oh boy oh boy I can't wait to click on that.

>>389138118
Switch – 69,654
PlayStation 4 – 20,433

>3-4k

>>389136457
>hardcore titles
What are you 12?

>>389138468
PlayStation 4 – 28,779 (34,691)
Switch – 22,277 (87,798)
New 3DS LL – 16,083 (17,276)
New 2DS LL – 14,939 (24,187)
PlayStation 4 Pro – 5,909 (7,771)

that was 2 weeks ago

what is selling ps4 in japan right now anyway? was it monster hunter? or dq?

nvm it was dq

>>389139063
>87,798
Its clear the switch is not selling more because it keeps selling out

http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/802556/Nintendo-Switch-games-list-PS4-Paladins-Xbox-One-2017-release

At least we're not missing out on HUGE releases

>>389136028
Switch might crack 40m... They're just hitting 5m in the last two months and their biggest game of the generation has landed already.
Sony will crack 80m... They're at like 65m already, and their attractive "games" are shit like CoD/FIFA and more normie shit in the works.
There's always a way to look at metrics though to make it look like Nintendo will KIK THIER ASSSSS! for clickbait articles ("Nintendo sold more in this region at this time and Sony doesn't want you to know!")

>>389136028
Switch launched with most of its console seller games, only Mario Odyssey, Pokemon and SSB remain.

PS4 launched with jack shit.

How are you surprised that the Switch is cutting close to PS4 globally (not surpassing it, however) ??

>>389139108
maybe, unless they stockpiled systems for splatoon to make it look really good, which is also possible

it's annoying that it's hard to tell if it's really articifial scarcity or they're just super ass at stock, i guess it could be both tho, they suck at making product (in part to iphone shit), but they also like the demand it fuels

>>389136159
You can buy a standard bluray player for like $50 these days. Why would anyone pay $300 for a PS4 to play only blurays?

>>389139204
Mario odyseey is not out yet
Or pokemon switch
Or metroid prime 4

brand loyalty is a religion
case in point everyone itt

http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/797002/Nintendo-Switch-games-list-missing-out-on-PS4-and-Xbox-One-s-Call-of-Duty-WW2

OUCH! Another big loss for Nintendo!

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>>389136028
The Switch is so rare in Japan, they have to hold lotteries to dish out new stock to customers.

Still outselling the PS4. Niggers will ignore this thread.

>>389139108
It's jumping up and down week by week in major territories as shipments arrive or run out.

>>389137194
How about the entire year?
Pretty sure the PS4 has sold more consoles than the Switch this year.
>b....but my shortages

>>389139387
The Wiiu outsold the PS4 for like 2 years in Japan. Did that help the Wiiu in the long run?
Japan is completely irrelevant in terms of sales.

>>389139204
>their biggest game has already landed

Zelda? Lol. Okay. How about you wait until mainline pokemon is released.

>>389139397
Uh I'm not sure about that actually. Launch is a bug event

>>389139498
>bug
Big**

>>389136028
NINTENDOMINTATION

OTHER "GAMING" CONSOLES NEED NOT APPLY

>>389136457
>real gaming platform
yeah sure whatever you say fuckboi

>>389136946
The PS4 had no games at release.

>tfw loved Playstation 1 and 2
>tfw PS3 was disappointing but still alright
>tfw have no motivation to buy a PS4

I'm still playing old games and might get get a Switch for Xenoblade 2. Where did it all go so wrong?

daily reminder that intense brand loyalty corelates with autism

I actually unironically clicked on a clickbait article once and it was nothing but a giant slideshow with maybe 2 sentence-long blurbs. Not that I expected any different, but it's amazing how prevalent they are considering how absolutely devoid of content they are.

>>389139316
pokemon and mario won't move 40m console sales, sry

pokemon sun and moon did 15m sales on a very old, established system that people already had, and that games still come out for, and they also just released a new version of with the 2ds (aka, how many can it really sell, ESPECIALLY if it's another port?)

highly doubtful 15m people will also go out and buy switch and pokemon (especially since going with how nintendo can't even keep stock up, people might even lose interest by the time 15m consoles are sold, also factor in how it could be a year +, how much interest will it still have?)

galaxy on the wii sold 12 mil, galaxy 2 sold 7, super mario 3d world for wii u sold 5.65, but 3ds was 11m

so even in best case, mario sells 11m, and pokemon sells 15m.. add that up, does that get you 40m sales?

that's only half that, and that's best case scenario of everyone who bought mario and pokemon recently all get a switch, and most not having it already

mario and pokemon aren't going to move the system, they need it to be a fad.. and they need stock

it's not a fad like wii, and it doesn't have stock, so it makes it hard to look at the numbers and go "you know what, mario and pokemon are gonna push 40+!"

>>389139771
>The PS4 has no games at all.
ftfy

there's a reason nintendo wins every generation

>>389139316
Pokemon will move units (of it's exclusive to Switch), but people interested in Bing-Bing Wahooer 2017 probably already have a Switch, and Metroid won't move shit.
Smash will grab sales too.
I've already thought about these.
Maybe 40m give or take 10m.

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>>389136028
>Sony lost, why?
The bargain sales seem proving that sony is right now desperation.

>>389140191
wut

>>389139462
If it's available of DS too, they're robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Either way, 40m give or take 10m

>>389140162
i posted this just a couple above yours

moon and sun did 15m in sales, the best recent mario did 11

that's more than the 10m difference you give or took for

and that's considering nintendo even has that much in stock to do that many console sales, and considering that all the people who bought pokemon and mario on the 3ds aren't mostly already having a switch

>>389136028

Simple

Serious more competitive games are mostly played on PC

More fun less serious games on Switch

Why have a PS4 when you could own a PC?

>Nintendo releases a pokemon MMO on the switch

>>389140263
>Every software sale is a moved console.
Come on. Anything else?

>>389139909
>pokemon sun and moon did 15m sales
Which is better than any zelda game ever, retard. So no, BotW is not their biggest game of the generation. Mario also has wider appeal than Zelda.
Also your logic is completely nonsensical, why do you think 70 million people bought the 3ds if only 16 million where going to buy pokemon?

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>>389136789
>Switch is getting mobile games

you tell 'em bro. the Switch can't even compete when sony's getting AAA games like pic related on PS4

>>389140327
This would destroy the competition, but Nintendo are too stupid to do this.

>>389140336
wat

how can you look at 15m and 11m sales on a long, established console in the 3ds, and go "ez 35m for nintendo switch sales"

that doesn't make any sense lol, for one, because nintendo doesn't even have the stock to move that much in the forseeable future for mario even, and two, because you're somehow counting on the franchise to have a boom in sales because reasons to make up the extra 15m sales to even get to 40m

>>389137164
>Welcome to the UK. Every headline is like this here
If you read papers that are equal to bog roll, sure.

>>389140284
I do own a pc, but I'd rather play yakuza and bloodborne than competitive games

>>389140471
I just did, and it'll be accurate. Screencap it.

>>389140417
what? people kept saying mario and pokemon will help the switch break 40m sales

i was just saying if pokemon and mario only did 25m in best case, even saying nintendo would have the stock to capitalize on that (which it doens't look like it will, at least for mario), where is that extra 15m in sales coming from? people who didn't buy pokemon for the 3ds, who obviously had it as it has a huge userbase, are going to definitely buy it for the switch? it's a handheld.. it's not a new experience, and there's just literally not enough stock to let mario even get 15m in sales, it'd almost take nintendo 2 more years to get 15m consoles at the current rate it's selling, a new nintendo console/mario would probably be coming by then lol

>>389140457
MMOs take a huge budget and you have to maintain them. All this for the high chance that your MMO will crash and burn like nearly every other MMO. Even the big dog MMOs are dying/stable but lower than ever before.

>>389140501
Times does it. Guardian does it. Everyone does it.

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>>389136260
Japan dropped home consoles a few generations ago. They prefer handheld gaming now.

I thought this was common knowledge?

>>389139962
But they have come in dead last 2 of the last 3 gens.

>>389140936
Everyone prefers handheld (read as: mobile) gaming now.

>>389140948
1 of the last 3 gens.

>>389140936
Splatoon 1 and the PS4 version of DQXI were major hits, they haven't dropped home consoles yet. DQXI actually did better on PS4 than on 3DS

>>389136727
>Analyst Daniel Ahmad confirms the rate as 7.51 games per console, which is higher than both the PlayStation 2 and Wii at the same point in their life cycle.
you just know instantly that this is a lie

>>389140948
and they were so dead 'last gen' they had to whip up a brand new mobile tablet to stay afloat.. and which they can't even produce enough stock for

like i said, until apple stops needing parts.. which it won't really, the switch is fucked stock wise.. mario isn't even going to be able to move a ton of consoles at bulk because there just won't be enough stock

by the time the switch has enough fucking stock for even 15m pokemon + mario sales, it'll be into the next gen already, with new pokemons and marios coming out, so people won't even care lol

>>389141071
isn't that mostly because gamestop gets most of the consoles it seems and they're huge fucking jews about selling 'bundles only'? they basically force it on you lol

>>389141016
>GC
last
>Wii
Won
>Wiiu
Dead last

Two of the last 3 gens.

>>389141152
nvm i read it wrong, i thought it was about the switch

i wonder if the ps4 does it too? maybe gamestop is just a big jew in general

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>>389140936
the cool kids in Japan play New Vegas, translated on PC.

>>389141076
I don't understand why you are so vehement that Nintendo lose.

>>389141152
add to this that many Wiis ended up in senior-residences with just 1-2 games to keep them old people fit

>>389141215
I thought you were doing Wii/WiiU/Switch.

Out of interest, do you mean in terms of actual quality or market success?

>express.co.uk
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>>389139207
>only Mario Odyssey, Pokemon and SSB remain
You have no idea what you're talking about

>>389141224
i'm not honestly, most of my salt comes from their nes classic thing, i hate them but just for that

their current stock issues is just something that is a huge piss off, even if mario sold really well, and pokemon (which even though i doubt, for arguments say they can both do 15m each somehow), how is the switch even going to have the stock to move consoles when mario comes out next month? how is mario going to sell millions when it takes them 6 months to crank out 5m consoles?

even if they stockpiled for splatoon, they didn't crank out nearly enough

the stock is going to fuck them hard

>>389141276
Sony and Microsoft haven't released new consoles, and the Switch just launched. Hard to say what the next gen looks like.

>and no the PS4 pro and Xbox one X aren't new gen consoles

They are slight upgrades to the same gen. Looks like this shit may become the norm.

>>389141391
you think?

look at fucking nintendo

MUH CLASSIC NES, MUH CLASSIC SNES

they literally released more new consoles than flagship games at this point

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>>389140991
Not me. I will never play games on a small screen. Fuck that shit.

>>389141215
>last
I guess the dreamcast lost so hard its not even worth mentioning.

>>389141547
I don't have any special aversion to it providing it's the right kind of game (Kirby, for example). But, I generally agree.

But we're the minority. It's not so much that people have turned away from the big screen -- it's more that a bunch of new people have started playing games, but only on mobile. Because it's easier for a casual five minutes when you're waiting for the bus or your friends to arrive.

>>389141550
that'd be like counting the ouyo or w/e or the atari console

people won't be like 'the was behind the xbone', it's just gonna be 'lol the xbone lost'

>>389136415
This

The article is very disingenous. Japanese market is smaller than American or European. Sony does very well in US/Europe and Okayish in Japan. Meanwhile its the opposite for Nintendo.

>>389141728
Nip market is huge you mongoose.

But it is becoming a smaller slice of the pie, thank God. Now Nip companies are actually noticing the west. Dark Souls had a big impact.

>>389141796
depends on the game, weeb titles/rpgs etc sure

everything else? nope

the fact japan has had such ass sales in general compared to what they use to be, is most of the reason why the rpg genre and such have been ded, it's all muh open world/shooter/moba' now

and japan is sadly following suit, like you said

"muh skyrim zelda, muh open world mgs"

>>389141687
The dreamcast is as much of a console as the PS2 or the GC, comparing it to the ouya es idiotic. You can say that the GameCube was a commercial failure but it certainly wasn't last.

>>389136069
>>389137164
Clickbait titles are becoming very prevalent every where now. Even our fucking Dutch national news channel uses clickbait now.

I fucking hate this world

>>389141728
>Japanese market is smaller than American or European
>has the best games out right now

No amount of AAA dicksucking is going to change the fact, that and Sony doesn't have a market in their home town anymore.

>>389142137
>>389141796
http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/


>Nintendo Switch sales (total) 4.8M
>PS4 sales (total) 61M

Stop being retarded and stop buying into retarded "news"

>>389142137
desu the japanese gaming market doesn't really have.. a market in general

the handheld stuff isn't even doing as gangbuster as it use to, they're looking more and more into mobile now

a lot of the japanese studios are just kinda imploding lol

>>389142259
I laughed

>>389141638
I have a smartphone. When I have 5 minutes to kill I like to browse the internet, post in a forum or read an article or two, watch the news. Oh well.

>>389136028
Can't stun me because I couldn't care less what Nintendo does. Go ahead, sell a trillion Switches. I'll still enjoy my PS4.

>>389142408
I don't. Too cramped for all that stuff. I read books instead.

>/v/ before
western games suck! only japanese games for me
>/v/ now
JAPAN DOESNT MATTER!

hmm, i guess you'll get european games like uhhhhhhhhh... fifa?

>>389136028
>>389136028
>>389136028
That fucking title though,. what the fuck.

We need to ban this shit

>Pearl Harbor just got bombed and YOU WONT BELIEVE who is responsible!

>>389141728
>Japanese market is smaller than American or European
Japan is bigger than Europe, actually. But I get facts won't matter to you shitposters

>>389136028
>Sony lost, why?

I don't know.

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>>389136028
>sony lost
How?
>inb4 HURR DURR MORE SALES xDDD
Sales mean jack shit

>>389141687
Funny enough the Wiiu was behind the Xbone.

>>389136457
Fake news: the post.

>>389142772
people will just look at the switch and all the hype they are trying to do

i've never seen a company like gamestop get on it's knees and absolutely blow a console until the switch came out

then i read all the articles of "gamestop saved by switch!" and it made sense

>>389142739
see>>389142259

Japan has never been bigger market than Americas/Europe. Its a fucking 1 stagnating country vs entire continents worth 10x more than Japan.

>>389140501
Literally all the big papers do it.

>>389142884
I would've thought Gamestop loves Nintendo because many of their games can be sold for near full price used for years after their initial release.

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>>389142917
Not for their handhelds, no. PS4 selling badly is not news and anyone who says differently are delusional.

>>389143104
i think they love them because they give them more consoles than other places and gamestop will force you to buy bundles and spend more

>>389143148
ps4 is shitting on the switch worldwide, by like double, even though the switch is winning in japan, the rest of the world is shitting on it

just by that metric, it seems pretty clear to me that the rest of the world matters more than japan for sales

>>389143148
PS4's "weak" sales in Japan is 5x more than Switch's "strong" sale in Japan.

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>>389143287
You don't understand what supply constraint means

>>389143184
Isn't that just because Gamestop ordered more knowing they could jew people like that? If we're being fair, only Walmart is getting the Splatoon 2 console bundle and there was just a big restock at several physical retailers last week.

>>389143312
On top of that, PS4 was released about a year ago. While Switch was released about half a year ago.

If we factor in time, PS4 sold in Japan would still be >2X more than Switch sales. Meanwhile, PS4 have sold more than 6X the amount of Switch, factoring in the time, 12X if you don't.

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>>389142764
I agree that sales mean jack shit and that this thread should go to shit.
But come on, those 60m units sold threads have been old for a while and they still proliferate.

>>389143467
is that including the rest of sony's idiot company?

pretty sure their gaming division is the only thing that's been keeping them afloat

that and maybe their movies, but i forget

>>389136028
It's alright guys. Sales don't matter remember?

>>389143552
>PS4 was released about a year ago
ahem

>>389137512
They're going to delay it as long as humanly possible. Releasing a new console is going to cost them dearly. PS4 owners have almost zero reason to buy a PS5 after spending so much already, especially as we have reached diminishing returns on what they can do with consoles. 2020 at minimum. 2022 is more likely.

>>389142724
>sonygro compares his console losing to a devastating war-time bombardment
Jesus man things aren't that bad

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>>389139063
>cherrypicking the one week that the PS4 was above the Switch