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So /v/ let's talk censorship in video games. Picture related.

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So /v/ let's talk censorship in video games. Picture related. Hyper Universe is falling victim to this too because the developers are cowards and NA is forcing KR devs to comply.
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>>389119552
right is hotter. u never want to give too much away.
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>caring about cleavage like a 14 year old
post more cute armpits
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>>389119621
Censorship is censorship though. It's all kinds of shit.
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>>389119552
>MOMMY I CANT SEE TIDDY GOOD NOW
>WAAAAH ESJAYDOUBLEYOUS DARN YOU ALL !!
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>>389119552
What's this, MMO?
Show the ass then.
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>>389119760
>>389119658
At least we do get to see her nice high quality armpit tho.
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Never thought I would see the day /v/ started defending censorship
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>>389119784
It's actually a MOBA from what I looked up.
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>>389119552
until we get to the point that they are actively removing actual gameplay I literally could not give less of a fuck. They aren't even required to make these kind of changes for western audiences, the do it to avoid controversy, which says more about the audience than the developer. Every time this thread pops up its always about how a skirt is 2 inches shorter and this is a fucking epidemic or something.
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>>389119862
>not caring about shit that makes absolutely no difference to the gameplay
>defending it
It's not like I'm going to stop to jerk off to the game, we have the boorus for shit like that.
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>>389119552
>left
sexy redhead
>right
might as well be wearing a burqa

SJWs were a mistake.
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>>389119913
It's the principle of the matter. From what I heard they also removed jiggle physics from the 3D models and edited those down too.

It ruins the original artist's intent.
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The "censorship" /v/ complains about doesn't change gameplay. They only care about being degenerate porn addicts, or assholes from /pol/ trying to bring politics everywhere.
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>>389119986
And that makes the game unplayable how exactly?
You are just as retarded as the other side. You should all kill yourselves.
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>>389120082
>he isn't a degenerate porn addict
>>>/reddit/
>>>/kys/
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>>389120104
>Nexon
Game was unplayable already.
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>>389119986
if you intend to sell your art as a product and actually want to make any fucking money you have to appeal to an audience of some sort. The good artists know where to compromise and where to stand firm so that the original intent is still there but has enough mass appeal to actually work as a product. A million games have been made that bombed because they went to far in either direction, and if any artist is getting pissy about a proposed change in something like the OP pic that they are willing to drop production with a company they're fucking idiots anyways.
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>>389119552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiACU7zvut0
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>>389119913
>>389120082
>durr so wat dey replace all character with stick figurez and remove backround, gamez is 4 gameplay ONLY!!1 hurrr

baka
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>>389120440
Now you are getting it.
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>>389120440
I don't think anyone's sane enough to play something like that visually.
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No sex please, we're americans
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>>389119552
>NA is forcing KR devs to comply.
source?
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>>389119875
>the do it to avoid controversy
You'd have to be retarded to not notice that there's a massive controversy going on about this sort of thing right now.
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>>389120695
http://steamcommunity.com/app/591530/discussions/0/1474221865193806141/
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>>389119552
this isn't censorship you retard
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>>389120805
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>>389120805
No that is precisely an example of censorship, no matter how soft it is.
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THE ULTIMATE CENSORSHIP IS HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbI3ohHPJF8
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>>389120965
How is that game not dead yet?
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>>389120732
bro the only place I see any amount of genuine distraught over something like pic related is here. The game's message and overall flow is in no way affected by this change, and its inclusion was just big suit higher ups wanting to play their cards safe. it is completely harmless.
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>>389119552
There's a guide on steam how to uncensor it
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>>389121084
But why should we need to do such a thing? It shouldn't be even needed to go out of our way to break open a game to change shit that shouldn't have needed to be changed.
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>>389119875
They are removing actual gameplay, they outright said they'll do balance changes according to the "feedback" of the 200 player playerbase that is universally shit at the game barring some less than five people. Already did CC nerfs because "getting stunned for being out of position isn't fun you guys :("

I'll try and have fun with it until Nexon runs it into the ground at least, like they do with everything they touch.
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>>389121023
probably because it's popular in every region?
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Anyone defending censorship is a troll
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>>389121028
I completely forgot that existed. Didn't they also change certain classes too?
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>>389121150
No it shouldn't have been censored but at least their is a means to undo it.
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>>389121084
Just the art not the in game models.
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>>389121213
the vampire class was hanged to be less revealing in the same game and in the sequel an American Indian themed class was changed to look more like a cowboy. I can at least understand the argument for the latter because the design was actually pretty different and I don't think anyone would have given a fuck.
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>>389121028
>90% of the steam forum is about it
>discord had constant shit storms too every time I looked at it

Why are you lying through your teeth though? Are you being paid? Where do I sign up?
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>>389121441
I want in on that money too.
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>>389119658
But why would developers care about it so much to the point that most of the time they'll backtrack, censor their games, and change games completely, if cleave as you say is such a teenage and 14 year old thing to care about?
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>>389121582
To hopefully get people to buy their games more. Which in time and time again has failed multiple developers.
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>>389120732
There isn't. It's a vocal minority. Everyone jumps on the censorship scream train when a tiny bit happens. But then ignores all the countless times there is no censorship.

Making a mountain out of a molehill. Yes censorship sucks but it's no where near as massive as you think it is.
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>>389120749
I hate the stance the manager has taken. It seems uncaring as most Nexon employees are.
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>>389121901
How can it be a vocal minority when the Steam forums are filled and the threads are the most active even on their sorry excuse for a forum on their Nexon website?
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Hey guys let's talk about how the gameplay isn't actually affected by this. At all.
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>>389122314
Fuck off back to the discord shill, and refer to >>389120440
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>>389119875
>until we get to the point that they are actively removing actual gameplay I literally could not give less of a fuck.
>until it affects me, i don't give a fuck

How typical. Props for being honest at least.
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>>389119552

This game's userbase is so tiny right now it might actually kill the game. The official forums and steam page are completely dead outside this topic. Frankly if they aren't willing to compromise with this level of feedback and add a toggle I can't say they don't deserve it.
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>>389121901
>But then ignores all the countless times there is no censorship.

Are we gonna have to praise devs each time they do something they're expected to do?

>wow this game starts, 10/10
>main menu actually works thank you devs
>the level loads with no problem, you guys are the mest developers ever
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>>389122824
this
the people that are interested in the game are only interested in it because of the anime titties and they are removing that to please people who arent even going to play the game
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>>389121901
>ignore all the times a company doesn't censor
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I wish people would bitch about the gameplay instead of the censorship so they'd be forced to fucking fix it. Instead it's going to continue to be terribly balanced with the only way of killing someone to be stunning the shit out of them or having the entire team jump them at once, with shitty ass AI teammates because there aren't enough people playing to even fill up a match in a reasonable time.
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>>389119875
>which says more about the audience than the developer
This. It's not the developer's fault American media is run by feminists that hate the female body.
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>>389119552
>Nexon
More like shit publishers in video games. Look at Lawbreakers, Nexon doomed that too..
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>>389119552
Yeah if a dev caves in to SJWs I just stop caring about their games forever, honestly. It shows that they are stupid fucks who only care about media coverage and not what their playerbase wants, which is definitely not censorship if we take a look at the steam forum
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>>389119552
I already bitched about it on the Steam forums. The devs don't care they're treating us like babies. There is no recourse other than to not buy this garbage product, but enough idiots will anyway.
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This is as benign as the last thread. Do you really care so much about 'censorship' that you need to shit up /v/ with these threads? Go back to debating shit on NeoGAF.

>>389122824
Game will be f2p at some point and probably advertised then. I didn't know it came out until the last thread.
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>>389124249
That's already pointless, they're nerfing CC and buffing health because of retards, it's gonna be a League style shitfest of fat assholes harassing from long range then having a 5 minute long team fight at this rate.
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>>389122314
I hate ignitia, Pinky and Celine.
Why the fuck did they changed some of the names though
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>>389124662

Everyone in the beta hated CC because the entire game revolved around it, and rather than do anything to fix that they just shorted every stun by 0.2 seconds and called it a day. So nothing has changed, every character who doesn't have good CC is shit and characters like Pinky are still the best in the game because of how much CC they can dish out.
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>>389120082
Except when it changes or removes the story, removes game play elements, makes it illegal to own, own not buy or sale but own, in some countries. Yeah just the tiddies. Mmm Hmm.
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Every video games is censored but I wouldn't expect /v/ to know what this means.
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>>389119658
>thinking its about cleavage
Underage get out
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>>389119552
It amazes me how puritanical videogames are getting, mainstream media is as scandalous and shameless as ever, just watch any music vide but videogames are under assault by new wave puritans from the left.
It's ridiculous, there is nothing wrong with a character showing a little bit of cleavage, what real objection could anyone have other than infantile, repressed views about sexuality and the human body?
Never listen to anyone that complains about there being boobs in any content, you should automatically dismiss anything they have to say, their opinion is worthless.
We were supposed to enter an age where people finally stopped treating videogames like children's toys, after the lessons of the 90's that censorship hurts sales and only annoyed consumers because they felt like they were being treated like children then the easing of censorship in videogames throughout the 00's but at the turn of the decade videogames were targeted by sex shaming feminists and all the beta fags in the industry, which there are very many of, actually took them seriously.
Thanks you beta eunuchs.
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>>389124657

The population is low even for early access. Being F2P didn't help battleborn, and hasn't helped lawbringers. Those games at least have the advantage of being somewhat known names, too.
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>>389125104

I assume this is pasta, but it has nothing to do with the media. Six people complained at PAX and the localizers decided that boobs are keeping the game down.
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>>389119552
>cleavage got censored
Don't care. Come back when the gameplay gets altered.
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>>389119913
>Your rights end where my feelings begin
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>>389125128
Lawbreakers is still a paid product, but it is Nexon too so I guess Cliff Bazinga deserves them.
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>>389119658
haha yes as a grown man i personally hate tits
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>>389125270
>>389120440
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>>389125104
>>389125208
it's easier to bully/demand/threaten a bunch of nerds than iconoclast media titans that will just laugh at them.
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>>389119552
The game will flop because of it.

It's funny, because the tits and ass was pretty much the only reason the game got any attention at all.

You know what's funny? League of Legends originally stood out from the crowd by including tons of fanservice. It's mostly been patched/updated/removed, but look at any old female character in the game. Every line they had was innuendo. They were all skimpy as hell. Emotes were shit like pole dancing and janna smacking her ass. I wonder how it was that LoL completely overtook the competition and never looked back.

Moreover, why it's losing players since the developers stopped releasing sexy characters and skins and patching things out.
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>>389119621
That doesn't matter.
>>389119913
>not caring
>posting about it anyway
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>>389125425

I forgot about that.

It's safe to say it won't help when it does go free though.
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>>389124150
>>389122824
people who play games for titties usually dont stick around for long or pay money unless its a gatcha waifu collector phone game, not to mention its just a character portrait

whats the last game that tried to sell itself with just titties? fucking scarlet blade? do you still hear about that game?
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>>389119875
>until we get to the point that they are actively removing actual gameplay I literally could not give less of a fuck
We already passed that point a long time ago with shit like Yakuza 3 and FE Fates.
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>>389125575
Hasn't happened.
Won't happen.
Come back to if it does happen however.
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even though I hate censorship I would rather have sexual censoring than violence censoring because if I want porn I'll just look it up
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>>389120104
>>389120082
Why does it have to be political?The japanese believe the US can't handle certain shit, and will change their games because of it.They WILL do this with gameplay you fucking retard.
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>>389125614
>It's mostly been patched/updated/removed
Not really. Every visual upgrade old female characters got actually made them bustier/skimpier.

Sona's model has bigger tits, Evelynn's model has bigger tits, MF's model has bigger tits, Kayle got boob-plade whereas she didn't have it before, Karma is skimpier, etc.
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>>389119552
>make mmo gameplay video
>character has revealing clothes
>youtube instantly flags it as not suitable for ads
It's like they don't know that sex sells.

No one would've even cared about Nier: Automata if it weren't for all the scantily clad 2B webm everywhere.
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>>389119552
Where can I get character portraits for Hyper Universe?
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>>389125657

That's not true at all, lewd skins are consistent best sellers for all kinds of games. Even when riot was trying to clean up their image they still put out monthly sexy skins, and now that iron stylus is gone they've upped their output even more.
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>>389119552
I really don't know why they did this at all.

If anything the feminist outrage would of given the game far more attention, what a wasted opportunity.

If they are under some mistaken mindset that women hate sexualized females, they need to actually talk to some real females and not just feminists.
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>>389125649
They did the opposite of Hyper Universe where the beta tests are free but the full game is paid. The conversion of beta players to paying players isn't very good though.
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>>389119552
Americans are afraid of sex, while reveling in violence.

What else is new?

Maybe get your priorities straightened up.
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>>389119621
first post worst post
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>>389125675
>even though, but heres a worse imo
FFFFFFAGGOT
>>389125673
Gameplay has been changed with other games before.
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>>389125610

>why don't they go after the gun manufactures

Maybe it's because guns are legal and aren't evil, and people aren't as retarded as the liberal shitter that writes this comic.
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>"You get this."
>"No wait you actually get this, it's not okay for you to look at the original version."

>"YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT THE TITS WAAAAH"

disgusting tumblrtrash
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>censorshipfags claim MUH ARTISTIC INTEGRITY or MUH PRINCIPLES! BOYCOTT!! REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
>meanwhile daily Nier, Persona, Overwatch, Fire Emblem, and Final Fantasy threads full of discussions
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>>389125752
Nope.

Sona had her former huge tits in the splash that started the whole thing removed, Eve only got texture updates, not a model update, and her splash reduced her tits.. Models were made better, and the ones that were unchanged (ie just upped the polycount) naturally seem better, sexier.

But what about Sejuani getting clothed fully even though her lore explained her skimpiness? Or the beach Ahri skin that got canned because it was 'too fanservice-y' despite that being the literal entire point of the champion, whilst they release fucking topless Graves? What about Fiora's VU that caused so much outcry, Riot literally had to change it because they made her look like an old hag? Or the fact that her new model hid her ass when it was fairly prominent in the last one?

The list goes on and on. You're delusional.
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>>389125883
I don't want censored games at all, but the idea that americans revel in violence while being afraid of sex is fucking RETARDED, and only someone who's never been here could think that.
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>>389119552
i dunno why devs are so gung ho on censorship these days
i sorta get why nintendo was so censor happy 25-30 years ago because they were taking baby steps into a foreign market but these days there isn't really any reason for it
tits hanging out is enough to get someone to buy otherwise shitty games, I'm living proof of that
and at the same time sanitizing something for no apparent reason is enough to get me to avoid it. Tokyo Mirage Sessions is the ultimate example to me of a game targetted towards weeaboos that was deliberately neutered to spite the weeaboo audience and try to appeal to kids. It failed miserably and the only audience for the game was alienated by treehouse's actions.
What I find even more bizarre is how many people are willing to defend the censorship because it's a "minor issue"
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>>389125834
...No, they really don't. They've released like... 1 fanservice skin in the past year or two?

Yes, they were always and still are the best sellers, but Riot really doesn't do them anymore.
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>Armpits are not censured
Can still fap to it.
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>>389125990
>aren't evil,

Using this logic mass producing nukes, chemical warfare, etc. isn't "evil" either.

Seriously that's teh fucking worst argument, right after...
>legal
Tons of dumb shit has been legal and changed.
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>>389126047

Things have changed since iron stylus got canned, dude. Go look at pool party fiora.
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This game sold 12k copies, it's pretty much a massive flop.
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>>389125742
>They WILL do this with gameplay
They've already done it with gameplay in countries like Germany and Australia numerous times. South Park Stick of Truth had whole sections of the game removed for instance. Also like >>389125663 said we've had gameplay censored in stuff like Yakuza, Fire Emblem and that Criminal Girls game just to name a few titles.
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>>389119552
I WANT TO SUCK ON HER GODDAM ARMPITS
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>>389126107

Did you miss pool party fiora? Dragon zyra? The entire star guardian line? Dawnbringer riven having huge hips and boobs out of nowhere? The stk skins are even revealing.
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>>389126145
...No, they didn't. Iron Stylus was a literal cuck and an idiot, but he never actually covered people up.

Things did change, for the worse. You named pool party Fiora, name even just two other fanservice skins released in the last two years.
Then go compare to the old days where every female champion had a fanservice skin coming out every month or so.
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>>389126196
this shit sold less than 12k copies. people are already refunding this shitty game.

https://steamspy.com/app/591530
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>>389126278
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>>389126375
None of those skins are fanservice-y at all except Pool Party Fiora, the fuck are you talking about?
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>>389126376

Iron stylus was literally the reason Sejuani was covered up. He pushed for it, and did the redesign. He also wanted to remake a bunch of characters like LeBlanc to be less sexy, but those plans have gone away without them.
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>>389126384
It's almost like the only appeal of the game was the fanservice and they're removing that...
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>>389126493
I dunno.
I like the game not the anime tiddies.
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>>389126438

How is Dragon zyra not fanservice? What skins do you consider fanservice?
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>>389124516
>Nexon doomed that too..
whatever "sjw" shit is CliffyB's fault
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>>389126376
ironstylus was one of the people directly behind the fiora rework that covered her up
royal guard fiora in particular had her cleavage covered up by a poofy shirt and had her gold cross necklace removed for being too "religious"
the best part is that despite changing the skin so significantly they refused to give refunds to owners of it
and while this doesn't relate to ironstylus i'm still pretty jilted about heartseeker quinn
originally it was meant to have her wearing stockings and a skirt which fits with the other heartseeker skins, instead they changed it to have stupid looking pants because "stockings are TOO SEXY lol"
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>>389126438
>Dragon Zyra isn't fanservice-y

What are you talking about?
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>>389126384
>>389126196

Is there any way to tell how many of those copies were a gift? They gave all of us from the beta and alpha free founders packs, I wonder how many of their "sales" came from that.
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>>389119552
I tried this game out in its CBT1 and loved it. Then I immediately noticed the censorship in CBT2 and at first thought it was just to be family friendly, but it turns out it's all in service of being stream-friendly for eSports, I guess due to that SFV Cammy drama.

This is a serious case of putting the cart in front of the horse. The game doesn't have a competitive scene, let alone an active userbase. I brought up my concerns to the GM on the forums and was ignored. This isn't just about titties, it's indicative of very poor community management, which may seem insignificant, but can ultimately destroy a game (see: MN9)
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>>389126493
The gameplay is mostly fine.

But Nexon is fucking retarded and along with losing players with this will probably fuck up the gameplay along the line as well. I don't know how they haven't gone bankrupt yet, we need a replacement already.
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>>389126570
How is it fanservice? It literally shows less skin than her default.

That's like saying every Evelynn skin is fanservice because they're for Evelynn.
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>>389126069
>but the idea that americans revel in violence while being afraid of sex is fucking RETARDED

It's true. They're far more eager to censor tits over violence. Even americans agree on this.
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>>389126549
go play awesomenauts, its litterally the same thing and its been out for years
this game has nothing going on, and they're removing fan service
what special kind of retard infiltrates a game specific forum while its in alpha and complains about the fanservice in it ? really makes you think doesnt it ?
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>>389126723
>>389126069
>americans revel in violence while being afraid of sex
The irony is that virginity is viewed as shameful in America, even for women.
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Censorship is NEVER good.

Anyone "not caring" or for it in any shape or form is fucking retarded.
You're for removing or altering something to hide something.
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>>389126761
Does awesomenauts have bruce lee?
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>>389126823
>The irony is that virginity is viewed as shameful in America, even for women.

You don't see how that's entirely different? Is your mind this small?
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>>389126823

Being a virgin by itself is not viewed as shameful, being undesired or a wuss is. Nobody is going to care that a 10/10 is a virgin.
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>>389126896
https://awesomenauts.gamepedia.com/Awesomenauts
maybe stopped following a while ago they added heroes and shit, its also f2p
check it out yourself
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>>389126823
>The irony is that virginity is viewed as shameful in America, even for women.

Ah yes, the 23 year old 10/10 girl that's a virgin is viewed as something "shameful" in america.
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>>389126823
>>389126723
USA literally censored art because it had boobies in it.
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>>389127021
Sweet mother of God.
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>>389127021
If a girl is still a virgin past the age of 20, most people will assume there's something wrong with her. Women bully the SHIT out of other girls who are still virgins.
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>/v/: WAAAH FUCKING TITS WHY ARE THEY DESTROYING ARTISTIC INTEGRITY! FUCKING SJW! IF THE DEVELOPERS WANT TITS/GIRLS/LEWD COSTUMES LET THEM HAVE IT GAWD WHY ARE SJW RUINING ART LET THEM HAVE WHAT THEY WANT OMFG

>meanwhile, in another /v/ thread
>OMFG FuCKING BLACK DUDES/WOMEN I DON'T FIND ATTRACTIVE? HOLY SHIT SJW AT IT AGAIN THROWING MARXIST JEW PROPAGANDA IN MY FACE. IT SHOULD BE A WHITE DUDE AND A WHITE DUDE ONLY, PREFERABLE RIGHT WING WITH A SWASTIKA ON HIS FACE EXTOLLING THE VIRTUES OF BEING A WHITE MAN AND A NAZI AND ALL THE HOT WOMEN SUCK HIS DICK

I love /v/.
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>>389127021
It's shameful because that would make her a lying whore
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>>389127186
And you know this from your extensive personal experience with young women?

Go get some sunlight, idiot.
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>>389127186
>Women bully the SHIT out of other girls who are still virgins.

Dude, women are always mean to eachother and when they say nice things they don't mean it.

>If a girl is still a virgin past the age of 20, most people will assume there's something wrong with her

In what dimension? There's only "something wrong" if she starts hitting 30 and is still a virgin.

It's a far bigger issue for men being virgins. For women virginity is seen as innocence, while for men it's the mark of not being masculine.
I mean a dude banging 10 chicks? Alpha. A woman banging 10 dudes? A slut.
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>>389126723
US culture has become degenerate as fuck.Our children are taught to be whores.If you think sex isn't in our TV, movies, music, and easily available on the net your ingnorant, or a shill.Nickolodean, and disney which is made supposedly for children is full of sex.
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>>389119552
>NA going full Mohamed
Top kek
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>>389127250
>removing tits because of a political agenda
>adding diversity quotas because of a political agenda
>implying either of these are fine

vote with your wallet, snowflake.
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>>389119552
Isn't like the models are exactly the same.
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>>389127417
I'm talking VISUAL nudity or sexiness you daft cunt.

Otherwise mind explaining why so many games gets censored like the shit in OP for american release?
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>tits, softcore porn and outright sex on netflix shows
>but clevages on games are not ok

also
>it doesn't affect me but pedos/thirsty cunts only!
>hurr it's hotter that way!

you people should be IP banned tbqh.
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>>389127534
>because of a political agenda

You mean because of an "artistic vision". The fact that you don't like it doesn't mean that it's not their genuine desire or that it has less worth than the desire to see tits.
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>>389127669
>genuine desire

yeah I wonder where that desire came from hmmm....
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>>389127534
They didn't remove tits though, they just covered them up. My point is that /v/ screams that it's 'destroying artistic integrity' and 'destroying the vision of the developer', but when a developer puts a non-attractive woman or a minority in their game, this is wrong and fuck their 'artistic integrity' or 'the vision of the developer'. /v/ (or more specifically, the /pol/ colony of /vpol/) is so hypocritical it's actually really depressing.
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>>389121901
>But then ignores all the countless times there is no censorship.
What is wrong with you?
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I hate to think what would happen on /v/ if Half-Life 2 came out today due to Alyx. Or Beyond Good and Evil. Or dozens of other games.
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>>389127669
If you think the vision of the artist is the product that was changed to appeal a specific demographic, instead the one created on release, then you are a fucking retard.
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>>389127250
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>>389127738
Dude, one thing is censorship and the other shit isn't. How fucking retarded are you? You're comparing fucking apples and oranges.
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>>389127814
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>>389127738
>everyone who disagrees with me is nazi
>everyone who disagrees with me is sjw

When will this type of mentally fucking end? Why can't I be against censorship without being labeled a /pol/tard?
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>>389127706

Are you really going to resort to the "You only think you are having fun" argument?

Who the fuck are you to tell people what they REALLY want?
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>>389119552
>censor irrelevant cleavage
>leave provoking armpits untouched
baka senpai
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>>389127738
>put a woman (and let's not get into the fact that she has the most stereotypical black woman hairdo possible) in uncharacted where the setting hinges mostly on reality
>although she show no visible signs of strength, is able to beat Nathan Drake, a guy in his prime who singe-handedly killed a thousand men on his own

:thinkign:
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>>389127860
>using a strawman comic to prove it wasn't a strawman
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I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
The right one is a superior version, as it makes women more valuable.

Gonna read the Quran now. Night /v/
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>All these redditfaggots defending censorship
ayyy
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>>389127901
>various signs of the same phenomenon occurring on multiple games and over multiple platforms over a period of at least 5 years
>you are just making wild guesses!

anon you are probably the sanest guy in the thread, it's best to just ignore us tinfoil hat wearing dumpfvoters until they get inside your house and cart your ass away just for being male.
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>>389127823
I literally gave you examples. /v/ says forcing developers to 'censor' their games is destroying their artistic integrity and the vision of the developer. You agree with this, right? You can read these words? You understand it? Okay, moving on to the next bit, stick with me.

But when they make an artistic decision and the developer decides to put a 'minority' or a non-10/10 woman in their game, this is not allow and should be immediately changed, fuck artistic vision and integrity. You do understand what I'm saying, right?

Don't use the 'you're destroying the vision of the developer by censoring their tits' if you then in another thread go 'fuck black people and ugly women, change it to what I want'. Just say you want tits, don't use the artistic integrity or vision crap defence because it's ended up being thrown out the window when it's a non-white.
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>>389127579
>Americans are afraid of sex, but revel in violence
>I only meant video game censorship
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>>389127669
Art is subjective and thusly the "worth" of it will vary from person to person. Yeah, neither should be censored but in my opinion gook cleavage > sassy afro black woman so the tits get my money and support while "OH HELL NAW!!!" doesn't.
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>>389127962
Arabs cover up their women because they're insecure and don't want a superior man to steal them away.
Basically, they're afraid of getting cucked.
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>>389127738
The only place I see anyone talk about any artistic integrity is the discord server because calling a spade a spade there would probably get you banned so people resort to excuses like artistic integrity to complain. Try counting the amount of times anyone talked about artistic integrity in this thread for example, literally only in posts that try to mock it as a strawman without replying to anything, probably all made by you or some other discord mongoloid you're parroting.

Kindly go back and kill yourself you fucking shill.
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People who contest the change or removal of anything that isn't a blatant game design improvement are either dumb or contrarian. It's okay to prefer the changed version of something like music, art, or game play but don't fling shit at people who liked the old version. The artist came out with a specific design and it was well received by a number of people, those people were upset when it was changed afterwards to cater to different people.

It shouldn't matter if it's game play or art, people like what they like and have individual reasons for being upset about alterations to it.
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>>389128059
>Don't use the 'you're destroying the vision of the developer by censoring their tits' if you then in another thread go 'fuck black people and ugly women, change it to what I want'

>tfw your entire argument is based on what that poster's comment on another thread

lmao

not him but I love playing sterotypical norbit-esque woman if they are ever done well, but that's one hell of a flimsy """argument""" you have over there.
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>>389128059
Nobody on /v/ is trying to remove minorities or non-10/10 women from their games.
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>>389127417
Never change america
Never change

Mean while us europeans enjoy the pleasures of drunken kids and preteen sexualization, because we are not oversensitive morons
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>>389128187
his """""""""""argument"""""""""""" can't work unless the other thing he listed is satisfied. /v/ bitches about adding obvious virtue signalling people of color into games all the time but you don't see us (at least most of us) making threads or dedicating ourselves to removing them.
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>>389128040

Oh my god! You mean culture changes over time!

No! I refuse to believe it! There must be some sort of grand global conspiracy brainwashing everyone for the last couple of years! They must all be just as sexually frustrated and degenerate as me! There is no way they could possibly just not desire fapbait crap shits up all their games!

You people are so fucking stupid. What the hell did you expect to happen as the average age of gamers increased? That the pandering to horny teenage boys would increase?
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>>389127738
It's almost as if online communities are frequented by a number of various people with differing opinions. I'm all for SJWs making games for their own folk. Just don't change someone else's shit or abandon your old fan base for a potential new one.
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>>389120082
>>389119875
>>389125270
We've already reached the point where they have changed and outright removed gameplay for censorship purposes yet you faggots always come up with an excuse. Oh, thats just a mini game, call me when they remove the core gameplay!

You faggots are proving the slippery slope is real, and your argument is just as fucking dumb as the "they're just functions!" defense for crossover fighters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRHi9oyMXqE
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>>389128096
See >>389119986 >>389120239 >>389126007
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>>389128059
>I literally gave you examples.

You apparantely can't read.

What your pea sized brain can't comprehend that ONE IS FUCKING COVERED UP, REMOVED OR CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL VERSION.
The other WASN'T FUCKING CHANGED, IT'S THE FUCKING ORIGINAL.
This isn't just about art, but about fucking EVERYTHING. Are you pro censored news? Censored history? Censored anything? If so, fuck off.

I used caps lock to maybe try and get through your decimeter thick skull. Because I sure as fuck won't waste more time on a dumb cunt like you.
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>>389128092
>implying americans arent the same
You don't even know it, but mudslimes embody the true american way
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>>389128059
>You agree with this, right? You can read these words? You understand it? Okay, moving on to the next bit, stick with me.

No you absolute fucking retard, you're literally arguing with your own made up strawman argument because you can't reply to any of the actual criticism, refer to my other post >>389128096
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>>389128061
Ah yes, being a daft cunt must be sufferering.
I'm sorry for assuming you possessed a reasonable level of intelligence and comprehension. It won't happen again.
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>>389128291
>can't refute actual facts
>I will just keep saying my original point without backing up with actual facts!
>better resort to personal insults instead of proving him wrong!

notice how I don't use the word ad hom in case you post another variation of >>389127860.
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>>389127738

>/v/ is one person

I don't give two shits if devs want to put minorities in their game.
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>>389128149
>>389128187
>>389128267
Just wait until the next game with a minority shows up in and watch /v/ screech. And you know damn fucking well by /v/ I mean the gestalt entity that is the board, not every single fucking poster.

>>389128318
I was never supporting censorship anyway, I was just saying don't use the 'artistic intgrity' fucking defence like in >>389119986 >>389120239 >>389126007 and then screech there are non-whites and ugly women in other games. It's a general comment and if you've (and by 'you' I mean people reading this comment not 'you' personally, since there are obviously autistic people in this thread) not seen it then you're either using filters or are blind or a new user.
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>>389119552
you censor your game, you dont get my money, simple as that
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>>389128323
IF YOU WANT PATTING, GET A FUCKING DOG
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>>389128407
And you ignored my post >>389128329 literally three people before I posted.

>>389128348
And you don't get what I'm saying, so I'm guessing you're shitposting. Once again, /v/ attacks people for censorship citing 'artistic integrity (see >>389119986 >>389120239 >>389126007) yet when /v/ (and this is the board, not you personally) sees a minority or ugly woman in the game, they screech it should be changed because it's SJW Jewish Marxism.
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>>389128485
>watch /v/ screech. And you know damn fucking well by /v/ I mean the gestalt entity that is the board, not every single fucking poster.

the point is people here bitches instead of actually wanting it remove/censored, there's a huge difference.

If we don't want/like it, we don't fucking buy it just like DmC and tons of other examples and not merely for "artistic" reasons.

but keep on rambling with your internal delusions pham.
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>>389128329
Literally one guy makes that argument in a thread this long since the first two are most probably the same person and the third post you quoted is bad strawman. Quote that one guy and argue with him then you dumb shit.
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>>389128541
Sounds that you don't even like video games to begin with if that's the reason why you wouldn't buy one.
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>>389128572
>yet when /v/ (and this is the board, not you personally) sees
>meanwhile, makes post like >>389128059 which is totally not targeting the individuals posting in this current thread right now

how mad r u f a m
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>>389128572
>cherrypicking random irrelevant posts (3 out of a 185 post thread, possibly from the same person) to try and claim that fucking with artists works is ok

Kill yourself you desperate shit.
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The Darkstalkers character Jedah, infamous for his attacks that involve self-mutilation and spraying blood everywhere has been added to the latest Marvel Vs Capcom game. The sprays of blood have been recolored purple so they now resemble grape jam more than anything else. And he just shoots/summons it in a generic manner rather than ripping his own wings off or slitting his wrists or such. Sad!
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i like how censorship according to /v/ means 1 thing and 1 thing only

the covering of tits or asses with clothing

god bless you 14 year old retards
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>>389128465

What facts? All I saw was the assertion that western devs have no artistic vision, only a "political agenda".

You can shove that shit right up your ass.
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>>389128595
But I didn't quote anybody originally, I made a standalone post and you replied. So I replied back. Now you're just making up excuses by going 't-tt-hey're the s-s-s-ame g-g-g-guy!!!!!'. You got BTFO by me because you can't fucking read.

>It ruins the original artists intent
>[...] where to stand firm so the original intent is still there[...]
>MUH ARTISTIC INTEGRITY

Those are three points I was literally referring too. Not every post has to be that and this isn't the first thread. I could go into the archives and search for 'artistic integrity' or 'original vision' or 'original design' and get fuck loads of threads like these.
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>>389128682
>>389128572
>the third post he keeps quoting is also pro censorship

I think he might have brain damage.
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>>389119552
In US, only black women can show their bodies.

Anything else is offensive because whites are disgusting and should not have rights.
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>>389128697
>i like how censorship according to /v/ means 1 thing and 1 thing only
>the covering of tits or asses with clothing

People are literally saying that it applies to more things like media as well.
Way to show off your retardation and illiteracy.
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>>389128485
Call me when "the gestalt entity that is the board" /v/ tries to dox people and make actual, death threats against people simply for putting a minority in a game.

Because if you think /v/ is bad you should probably take a look at Tumblr who have actually done these things against creators who don't pander to them.
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>>389128787
no it fucking isn't, it's the same shit mocking people who cry about principles or some other inane shit instead of saying what they mean 'don't cover up tits and ass'.
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>>389128697
Read the post just above yours, sport.
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>>389128697
no, it's just the only thing we bitch about because it's the only thing that happens on a regular basis.
it also happens to be the most visible and the easiest to prove.
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>>389128728
>All I saw was the assertion that western devs have no artistic vision, only a "political agenda".

you finally get it

>/v/ bitches about censoring of tits
>U CANT COMPLAIN BECAUSE U ALSO WANT DOSE BLACK WOMEN REMOVED

sure thing bud
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>>389128697
imagine being this illiterate and thinking you're superior to a bunch of 14 year olds let alone anyone
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>>389128749
The first two are very clearly close to each other and the part of the same reply chain. The third one IS PRO CENSORSHIP YOU RETARD. Out of about 200 posts. How fucking stupid can you get.
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>>389128849
And that's shitty too, /v/ as a whole hasn't sent death threats to anybody to the best of my knowledge, but people who post on /v/ and use /v/? They have. There are twitter pages posting /v/ screencaps who jumped on the GG bandwagon and used it to attack people.
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>>389121582
Because they want to be the morality police. That's the only reason, every time.
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>>389128697
>entire thread has people mentioning how EU censors entire parts of South Park's RPG, >>389128693, and many more
>hurr i liek to think /v/ is simple minded beczu me iz stupid minded too

try ctrl+f next time
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>>389128571
If you want my money stop butchering your fucking games.
Glad I pirated that piece of shit.
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>>389126269
>South Park Stick of Truth had whole sections of the game removed for instance.
The worst part is that they never even attempted to pass the game in the first place, they just cut it out and replaced it with the "we had to censor this :^)" message of their own volition. Cunts.
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>>389121339
The indian to cowboy one was double retarded because they ethnically cleansed a class.
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>>389128849
>call me when this thing that I dreamt up in my mind happens

>I am targeting the individuals on this thread but /v/ as a whole
>meanwhile let's also account the supposed-crimes of the people who also uses this board onto individuals on this thread

ONLY ONE OF YOU(r arguments) GETS TO STAY ON MY PLANE
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>supporting censorship
>ever
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>>389129089
>>call me when this thing that I dreamt up in my mind happens
Are you arguing Tumblr has never doxxed anyone over pandering/problematic content?
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>>389128323
>We've already reached the point where they have changed and outright removed gameplay for censorship purposes yet you faggots always come up with an excuse.
But the games that do get censored are games I don't care about. This is your problem and not mine.
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>>389129180
>But the games that do get censored are games I don't care about

Theres goes your entire argument. Thanks for conceding.
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>>389129089
>>call me when this thing that I dreamt up in my mind happens

http://n4g.com/news/1569613/divinity-original-sin-artist-received-threats-and-harassment-over-games-original-art

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/663.885340-Import-website-attacked-threatened-by-game-devs-and-journalists-for-supporting-DOAX3
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>>389119552
>Censorship
god da...
>in the west
oh, who cares
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>>389124249
>Instead it's going to continue to be terribly balanced with the only way of killing someone to be stunning the shit out of them or having the entire team jump them at once, with shitty ass AI teammates because there aren't enough people playing to even fill up a match in a reasonable time.
Well yeah, it's a MOBA.
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What's the difference between localization and censorship?
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>>389129234
I never knew "whatever, I don't care" was an argument.
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>>389128930
Are you seriously trying to imply that "the gestalt entity that is the board" is responsible for literally every anon who posts and uses /v/?

The fact that you're using the GG boogeyman to equate /v/ with tumblr groups who have actually sent death threats and doxxed creators destroys any credibility you might have had. You have no argument.
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>>389128865

You seriously don't see a problem with the inconsistency of your position? Or how retarded it is to differentiate between artistic vision and political agenda purely on the basis of whether you like it or not? You're a fucking moron.
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>>389129327
It's not an argument. It's a concession.
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>>389127738
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Just don't buy the game and leave a message on the steam discussion saying it's because of the censorship, easy.
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>>389128861
It's the only thing people particularly care about.
No one cared that Automata's localisation censored Sartre and Beauvoir's names.
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>>389129378
>Or how retarded it is to differentiate between artistic vision and political agenda purely on the basis of whether you like it or not?

SJWs do it all the time.
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>>389129468
50 people already did that, the localisers don't give a fuck.
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>>389129468
You know what's even easier? Pirating.
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>>389129576

So what? They are wrong too. I never said otherwise.
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>>389129618
A MOBA?
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>>389129765
You don't seem to have a problem with it. Maybe because your position is inconsist?

The thing about /v/'s "inconsistency" is that it doesn't involve petitioning/protesting/doxxing game developers because they put a minority or a woman in their game. Ironically that sort of behavior is more common among those with an agenda to increase representation of minorities and women in media.
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If it changes ACTUAL gameplay, it matters. But /v/ doesn't complain about that even a fraction of how much they complain about sexiness being toned down. I can't and won't take you seriously because you make walking jokes out of yourselves.

Maybe if you grew up a little and stopped complaining about not being able to jack off as easily, you'd have some ground to argue from.
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>>389128291
>this backfired in pretty much every one of those cases
>90% of the feedback even with a playerbase that small is about removing censorship
>refunds out the ass
>c-culture changes!
>i-it's what everyone wants only they're too mature to argue back or buy the game
>f-fucking degenerates
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>>389130217
>If it changes ACTUAL gameplay, it matters.

Try again >>389128323
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>>389127738
I know people who like to generalise "/v/" are typically retarded considering THEY TO ARE POSTING ON "/v/" but this is a whole new level. I've never seen anyone argue artistic integrity for progressive pandering, more often then not those threads just involve laughing at the shit design.

And not only do you generalise /v/ you then label those people you generalise as /pol/ cause they are expressing opinions you don't like? Here's an easier option since you're so depressed by these terrible /pol/ /v/ users - get the fuck off this board, cause opinions you dont like aren't going anywhere.
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>>389121339
and also they censored outfits from bravely default (magnolias ver of these are about the same as edea from bd)
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It doesn't affect the character models what so ever.
Plus even the lolis have thighs bigger than 2B.
Who the fuck cares?
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>>389130324
>>389130263
TINY
ANIME
TIDDIES
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>>389130263
>western release
ROFLMAO
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>>389130068

No, the thing about /v/'s inconsistency is they argue Japs should be allowed to fill their games with "fapbait" because that is "artistic vision" but western devs should not be allowed to fill their games with "SJW crap" because that is "political agenda". It's ALL artistic vision. Whether you like it or not has no bearing on that.

>The thing about /v/'s "inconsistency" is that it doesn't involve petitioning/protesting/doxxing game developers because they put a minority or a woman in their game.
You didn't hear about the Assassin's Creed Origins steam forum debacle?
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>>389130253
It's real nice how you evaded my main point. You know, the part about how 90% of the bitching starts and ends with teenagers and activists complaining they'll have a more difficult time getting off to a video game? /v/ lost most credibility sometime back in 2012 or 2013.
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>>389130268
Someone mentioned /v/ on the discord for the game so you have shills out the ass, artistic integrity is what I've seen some people use to argue there because calling it for what it is would probably get you banned. Well more like one or two shills, since the game is about as lively as a corpse.
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>>389130375
Character models are having their bounciness removed.
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>>389130217
Changing gameplay matters. Changing artwork and writing also matters. The comparative amount of mattering doesn't make one not matter just because it matters less.
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>>389126047
They released school girl Ahri wearing a skimpy skirt and a magical girl Ahri in the same vein is on its way. Pool Party Miss Fortune also came out and DJ Sona has the biggest ass in the game while wearing skin tight spandex.

Also Fiora's visual update was to change that stupid looking hair on the splashart anon. The character has a sexy seductress teacher skin for crying out loud.

The list goes on and on. You're delusional.
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>>389119552
thats murrica for you
a country where the most brutal violence is completely OK for underaged kids, but the look of a nipple would instantly make them worship Satan(according to the rating institution), while its the country that sexualizes teens more than any other in the mainstream media
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>>389130217
They are censoring gameplay though.
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>>389125883
And America has most porn stars in the world.
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>>389130324
>Bravely Default gets censored
>Call it out and tell people that if they'll buy it they're only supporting future even worse censorship
>"That's stupid, if we buy this and tell them we didn't appreciate the censorship, they'll definitely not censor anything next time!"
>Bravely Second comes out and is censored even worse
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>>389120965
This game makes my dick all kinds of diamonds but I'm not listening to it.
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if you're okay with some pathetic numale or a christ obsessed hag controlling your experience with anything in life then you should honestly just kys since it's obvious you're a fucking doss cunt
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>>389130375
Loli doesn't mean "slightly petite woman", you dumb cunt.
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>>389130450
To take from tumblr
>False equal
The problem with equating fanservice to SJW junk is the former is far more common, natural, and appealing to a mainstream demographic.
While it's far less hard coded in the groups that would apply those aspects to be an effect on the story line, visuals, and characterization.

Like Chloe's Progressive Punk shit is a major asset of her character in Life Is Strange but stuff like 2B or the fox girls in Muramasa are taken as seriously as they would without it.
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>>389130450
>he's still going with his artistic vision autism

A lot of people like to see sexy women while they're not masturbating too autismo, are you a woman or a faggot?

And it's amazing how you instantly associate /v/ with the ass creed forum like you already have this goobergator /v/ user image in your head ready to go, almost as if you were some kind of retarded internet activist who belongs to several radical tumblr groups and have been doing this for god knows how long. And I saw more people memeing and making fun of ass creed not throwing around tantrums and pretending to be morally superior and demanding the censoring of something. Not that I'd blame them if they did since historical accuracy from a game that pretends to be at least somewhat historic and localization censorship aren't even very related subjects.
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>>389130983
>Woman
lol okay, buddy. If you're the opposite of those 14 year olds who think the ninja is 17 maybe.
What makes you think I was using her specifically?
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>>389130454
>>389130454
>/v/ lost most credibility
To limp dick faggots like you? Wow, I'm ashamed.
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>>389131176
>Talk about [thing] while posting an image of what appears to be [thing]
>LOL WHY DID YOU THINK THAT IMAGE WAS [thing]

That thing is ugly as shit.
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>>389130375
This excuse falls apart when they've confirmed they will adjust the models in the future, it just takes more time than photoshopping the portraits.
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>>389130450
>>389129378
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>>389130918
i was fine with the level of censorship in bravely default at first, but its become apparent that disrespecting anime titties just opens the gateway to rewriting or dropping out entire subplots because someone in treehouse thought they didn't matter
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>>389131520
You should have known that even back then. It's nothing new.
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>>389131193
To the entire industry. Ever wonder why nobody takes advice from /v/ anymore, why no professional and high profile developers bother with this board anymore?
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>>389131660
Yeah. Because it's full of limp dick faggots like you.
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>>389130991
>The problem with equating fanservice to SJW junk is the former is far more common, natural, and appealing to a mainstream demographic.

This is just an assertion and not one that is particularly supported by sales figures. Fapbait games are routinely outsold, and by a large margin, by games that contain little or no fapbait, e.g. FIFA, COD, etc.
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>>389121028
Do people unironically get aroused by Edia??

How long do you have to stay inside before that can happen?
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>>389131660
>Ever wonder why nobody takes advice from /v/ anymore, why no professional and high profile developers bother with this board anymore?
When did this ever happen?
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>>389131284
>>Talk about [thing] while posting an image of what appears to be [thing]
>Projecting what your blindness onto others.
I thought you were trying to not come off as a pedophile who needs their girls flatter than sandpaper.
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>>389131945
>HOW CAN PEOPLE LIKE STYLISED SEXUAL CHARACTERISTICS???? ID ON"T GET IT???
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>>389132012
>I thought you were trying to not come off as a pedophile who needs their girls flatter than sandpaper.
I was trying to come across as a person who knows what loli means.
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>>389131970
And Minecraft basically became a thing because of /v/. That will never happen again because the place is somehow dumber than 5 years ago.
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>>389132130
So you're a dumbass who presumed the worst, are now livid at yourself for your own mistake, and still trying to argue like I'm gonna change my mind?
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>>389119658
im all about knees
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>>389132162
>Small niche game with a literal who developer became successful because /v/ liked it in its early phases and the dev posted here
Let's not pretend that Minecraft is even remotely comparable to your claim of "professional and high profile developers" bothering with this board. Also, Monolith came from /agdg/ and is one of the best games this year.

>>389132192
>Shitloads of idiots call things loli when they aren't loli
>Presume that a person who talks about a loli while posting something that isn't a loli (and would have no reason to post otherwise, but apparently did anyway) did not know what loli was
I'm not sure what part of this was hard to understand. The only thing that is difficult to understand is why you posted that image in the first place.
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>>389132256
Those are ugly knees.
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>>389132256
>>389132321
post cuter knees then
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>>389128853
>implying that chimp can read
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>>389132490
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>>389132301
So I'm right, you just still want to spin it positively in defiance?
I don't know why it's so hard to understand it was just a stature comparison and I'm using the most extreme deviation from said expectation, but I can't find the witch and the pink haired girl's alt.

Besides, you're the one who randomly forgot there's ages between 11-19 with the "woman" comment.
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>>389132663
>it was just a stature comparison
To what?
>Besides, you're the one who randomly forgot there's ages between 11-19 with the "woman" comment.
Loli is not an age, you fucking retard.
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>>389125778

>make a video
>youtube instantly flags it as not suitable for ads

it's like they don't know what they're doing at all
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>>389119552
>Hyper Universe
who?
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>>389133196
This is an edit, right? I can't believe XKCD would actually make such a comic.
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>>389133478
of course, here is the original
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>>389133514
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>>389133196
Fuck off, retard.
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>>389133838
kill yourself pedogaf
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>>389133514
I wonder what would liberation movements before 1950 would say to this comic.
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>>389134310
fuck off fascist poltard
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>>389134496
Those people in upper pic seem to be problematic.
Better remove them from streets.
Free Speech does not protect from consequences coming from their wrong opinions after all.
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>>389133514
What's so upsetting about this exactly? You can say anything you want but you also open yourself up to the consequences of doing so. Or do people really think they should be able to be openly racist, discriminate, hateful or unduly-aggressive toward other people with impunity?

plz no slippery slope arguments.
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>>389119552
This is what happens when u let ur womans and faggots go uncheck whitepiggus
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>>389134770
>Or do people really think they should be able to be openly racist, discriminate, hateful or unduly-aggressive toward other people with impunity?
yes? nigga they're only words
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>>389134770
>openly racist, discriminate, hateful or unduly-aggressive
Yeah, because those accusations are never not nebulous and subjective as fuck.
Criticizing Big Brother is legal after all, as long as it's not wrongthink.
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>>389134770
Who cares what people say over the internet? Why do you think it's right to censor what somebody says on the internet when literally 0 consequences can come of it? Unless it's a direct call to violence or malicious personal information release for example-- against the law.
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>>389134770
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>>389119552
Censored designs almost universally look better. Having titties hanging out and stupid fucking half assed costumes designed to make twink Japs dicks swell an extra micron don't fucking interest me.
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>>389134770
>plz no slippery slope arguments.

yeah because the slippery slope is not real, especially when it comes to pernicious left wing ideas right?
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>>389134770
What do you mean "slippery slope arguments" the slippery slope is happening in real time. Look at what happened to James Damore for his entirely constructive, reasoned and sourced manifesto on Google's echo-chamber. We've already progressed beyond a point where holding social justice to any kind of standard of logic will have you deemed a bigot. If that's a "consequence" of public opinion so is the holocaust.
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>>389119552

Honestly this is great.
The most fucking obnoxious thing about korean games is the fact that the male characters wear three miles of steel plate, and the woman in the same gear is wearing a fucking metal bikini with holes cut out for the nipples.

Shit's fucking annoying.
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>>389135135
edgy
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>>389135135
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>>389135227
They've censored the males too though.
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>>389135227
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>>389134987
>>389135008

You can be racist or whatever on the Internet and if the person your discriminating against just laughs at you then lucky you, you found someone who'll tolerate your ignorant opinions.
But if someone asks you to stop and you just scream "muh freedum of speech" and continue, that person also has the rights and freedoms to have you removed from the space if they have the legal right and power to do so.

You're rights and freedoms do not trump somebody elses.
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>>389135336
Jesus christ this "person" actually posts amongst us

you're being ironic right
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>>389135246

Oh?
What was censored and changed about the males?

Also honestly, that picture isnt even really censorship. At all.
She's no less sexually available and attractive.
It's just slightly less ridiculous. Her tits would jump straight the fuck out of that original top if she did anything even vaguely strenuous, unless she has a lot of tape in there.

>>389135324
Are you trying to imply I'm a fat chick anon or what.
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>>389135437
read the shirt cunt
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>>389135464

>raise boys and girls the same way
And what is this supposed to imply to me anon dear.
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>>389130450
The thing about /v/'s inconsistency is that they'll defend the right of devs to fill their games with artistic vision, even if they don't agree with it. And filling your game with SJW crap is a political agenda, make no mistake about it, but /v/ isn't doxing devs over it like Tumblr goes after artists for not pandering to their political agenda.

>You didn't hear about the Assassin's Creed Origins steam forum debacle?

So spamming memes on the steam forums is equivalent to death threats and doxxing? It's like you actually have brain damage
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>>389135227
shit's awesome
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>>389133514
>Government doesn't have the power to restrict free-speech, But the big mega-corps who act as proxy governments sure can
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>>389135437
>What was censored and changed about the males?
They were covered up more, same as the women. I don't have the game so I can't make any comparisons, but the community manager on the steam forums said so herself.

>Also honestly, that picture isnt even really censorship. At all.
Fuck off retard.
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>>389135580

I really dont understand this though.
If you want porn, there's an infinite number of places to get it.


Me, I want my character to look cool, not like I've just taken a five minute break from turning tricks on the corner to go and do some monster slaying or whatever.
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>>389135507
this is why women are worthless everywhere but the kitchen

>>389135620
just lie down and accept it goyim, we will rewrite your constitution soon too
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>>389135336
>ignorant opinions
Like believing in borders.
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>>389130454
Your point is a farce and relies on a strawman. "If it changes ACTUAL gameplay, it matters." is a cop out because when it DOES change actual gameplay you come up with excuses for why it doesn't count. Newsflash: /v/ never had any "credibility" and neither do you.
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>>389135645
>A character can't be cool and sexy at the same time
Feminism sure is something, huh.
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>>389120965
holy shit, the uncensored ones are some of the worst designs ever
the censored ones are only slightly better mostly and the game's art is awful anyway, but god damn
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>>389135634

In what way has she been meaningfully 'censored'?
Her top makes a lot more sense, and you can see slightly less cleavage and that's literally it.

They havent covered her up like fluttering a curtain over her in FE, they havent put a fucking burka on her. Her top is just slightly less of a plunging neckline.


>>389135663

No no anon, explain to me what 'raise men and women the same' is supposed to mean in this context.
Becuase surely, raising boys and girls the same and not giving either one preferential treatment is exactly what people should want.
Stop being a fucking nigger and explain what your attempt at a jab is supposed to mean.


>>389135746

Sure they can.
But someone doesnt have to be wearing a fucking shoestring to be sexy.
A female character can be sexy as shit wearing proper armour and using a proper weapon.
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>>389119552
>"""""censorship"""""
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>>389121028
left looks bnetter
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>>389134770
I know that you're probably so used to seeing the phrases "slippery slope" and "fallacy" together that your autistic brain has simply bypassed considering what makes some slippery slope arguments logically unsound, but slippery slope arguments are only slippery slope fallacies if there's insufficient evidence to support the likelihood of the slippery slope.

For example, back when DLC was becoming big, some people posed a slippery slope argument saying "This is too exploitable. If you buy it, devs are going to start cutting out pieces of the game and selling it back to you." Was that a fallacy?

The history of anime subculture in the west is one of non-stop censorship and general butchery at the hands of uncomfortable localizers. People grew up watching shows that even had censored cassette/DVD releases. Also, there have always been powerful people in the industry who are running scared at the idea of controversy. When the Mugen Souls fiasco happened, NISA had recently received one such person as their CEO, and IFI is currently dominated by them.

To say that many of the people who are pulling the strings would love nothing more than to remove any content that might offend Bible thumpers, overprotective parents, feminists, and all of the other moral guardian groups that we have stomping around is hardly so unfounded as to call it a fallacy.
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>>389135507
not him but it probably either means raise boys as boys and girls as boys or vice versa
since it's basically a twitter message there's very little context or explanation to go on which may be a deliberate attempt by the wearer to elicit attention and possibly even a conversation between a desirable member of the opposite sex
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>>389135805
>In what way has she been meaningfully 'censored'?
>meaningfully
Nice backpedalling. That's not what you said.

>Sure they can.
Then what's the problem?
>But someone doesnt have to be wearing a fucking shoestring to be sexy.
>A female character can be sexy as shit wearing proper armour and using a proper weapon.
Sure. But why can't we have both?
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>>389135913
>not him but it probably either means raise boys as boys and girls as boys or vice versa

See now sure, that's a dumb idea.
But what is that supposed to mean in this context?


>>389135952

Fuck yeah let some games do both.
The problem is with Korean games, they very fucking rarely do both.

There's no option for a cool looking outfit or a slutty outfit. It's not 'pick one' its just "oh hey youre a female, you're a slut" and that's the end of your choices.

>that's not what you said
And you're right, fair point - I didnt originally word it as I meant.
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>>389119552
I've divorced myself from censorship entirely when they censored the fucking ARTBOOK that came with Bravely Second.

Like is this the world we live in, where people are going to support the censorship of actual art. And to those idiots who think it was about outfits, they censored scenes that contained any level of violence in them. Cancelling my preorder of that game and importing the untainted product of Akihiko Yoshida was the best decision I've ever made.

I'll never fucking support censorship of any kind. Because the end result is more physical real world art being tampered against the artists wishes.
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>This post was deleted

SHUT IT DOWN THE GOYIM KNOW
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>>389126278
> bigger image
god's work
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>>389135791
stop trying to astroturf here pedogaf cunt

>>389135805
haha fat legbeard bitch

i bet your rolls smell of rotting cheese unlovable cunt
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>>389119621
You're either a falseflagging shitposter or a sjw shitposter.
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>>389135805
>>389136063
>>389135507
Seriously just fuck off to where you came from with your reddit spacing.
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>>389136153
That's some really low tier insulting anon.

>>389136195
>hurr reddit spacing
Ive been typing like that on 4chan since almost before reddit existed you nigger.
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>>389130263
> el americanos
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>>389130671
prove it or youre full of shit
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>>389136063
>The problem is with Korean games, they very fucking rarely do both.
So what? Let them do what they want. If you don't like that there are other games you can play instead.
>There's no option for a cool looking outfit or a slutty outfit. It's not 'pick one' its just "oh hey youre a female, you're a slut" and that's the end of your choices.
You want choices? That's funny, because a choice of a censored and uncensored version of the assets was proposed for Hyper Universe and highly supported, yet completely ignored by the localisers.
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>>389131569
im not reading all that fucker
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>>389136249
you are an insult to the human race dried up unfuckable cunt

go back to tumblr where you belong disgusting histrionic mentally deranged whale
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>>389136320
http://steamcommunity.com/app/591530/discussions/0/1473095331491132677/?ctp=13#c1473095331498960038

They are even going to change the models in the future.
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>>389134737
becoming violent is a sign of psychosis
i mean you can still plead temporary insanity and get off of a guilty charge but that just opens up a whole 'nother can of worms you wouldnt want opened ie. institutionalized
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>>389123534
>Are we gonna have to praise devs each time they do something they're expected to do?
Considering the state of the modern video game industry, I'm happy if a non-Nintendo game comes out complete without any major glitches or DRM.

Some people would say that the bar has been lowered, I say that people have just adopted realistic expectations.
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>>389119875
>They aren't even required to make these kind of changes for western audiences, the do it to avoid controversy, which says more about the audience than the developer.
>the do it to avoid controversy
No, they don't.
They do it to make money.
Any changes means more time spent by the localizers means more money.
It's a scummy tactic and they'll keep getting away with it because any criticism can be deflected by "lol grow up you jus wan 2 see panties" and so on.
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>>389136383
Nope, you're still not really getting anywhere.
Come on anon, I believe in you. You can do better!


>>389136359
See, now I didnt know that - a choice of both would be great. Being able to choose 'no I'd like some slightly less ridiculous clothing' or 'fuck no gimme the tits' would be great. Means everyone gets to be happy.
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>>389135878
I say slippery slope because I knew people would resort to "censor racism, next they'll censor criticism of the government" which is ridiculous. Racism and discrimination are objectively morally abhorrent things that create unjust hate and resentment of people which leads to violence and inequality. Criticizing the government is everyones patriotic duty. The people should control the government, the government should not control its people.
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>>389136514
why are feminists so ugly and disgusting? and unintelligent to boot? you're worthless to men, you're worthless to society, you're probably even worthless to the dozen or so cats you own. they're your only company- well apart from us.

maybe if you put down the fork for a second and went to church you'd have a more normal and fulfilling life. instead you're here, whinging at /v/ about how censorship is actually a good thing and empowers womyn.

you are trash. human sludge circling the drain.
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>>389136514
>See, now I didnt know that - a choice of both would be great. Being able to choose 'no I'd like some slightly less ridiculous clothing' or 'fuck no gimme the tits' would be great. Means everyone gets to be happy.
While I still consider it absurd that you whine about the designs being ridiculous, you are at least capable of seeing reason and accepting a compromise to satisfy both sides. This is not the case for the localisation team who are intent on pushing their agenda upon the entire playerbase, and even convincing the original Korean team to censor their version of the game too, with the original artwork to be entirely removed.
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>>389136063
well if you raise a girl like you would a boy then you would do masculine things like promoting competition, productivity and a never ending sense of "not good enough/ you need to improve" (or doubt) in regard to one's abilities to be as useful to others as possible
or something like that
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>>389136320
BTFO hard
>>389136398
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>>389136591
>Racism and discrimination are objectively morally abhorrent things

then reality sinks in and the liberal cowers in fear
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>>389120965
cant they just download the uncensored models and replace them?
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>>389136591
>My subjective view of what is morally abhorrent is objectively true
Full blown narcissist.
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>>389136808
As of yet, no. And it's doubtful that there will be any way to restore the original jiggle physics.
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>>389119552
Why are boobs bad and asses aren't?
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>>389136678
See now that?
That's ridiculous. Trying to push shit on the Korean team for their playerbase as well is retarded.

My issue is just that I want my character to look like she actually has any fucking right to be doing what she's doing, you know?
If the female characters were all wearing proper full armour, and the guys were next to them wearing tshirt and shorts I'd hate that just as fucking much. I have a massive thing for verisimilitude, basically.

>>389136683
I suppose it depends on what you look at as 'raising them the same'. Like, do you interpret it to means "dont tell girls that girls are inherently bad at maths and like dolls whilst telling boys that they like engineering and shit" - just let kids like what they like and all that.
That said, if it means 'make everyone conform to one mold' thats pretty shite.

>>389136646
Better, better!
That said, still not insulting but you're putting real effort in anon and that's worth celebrating!
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>>389136085
fucking disgusting
and i bet there are people on here RIGHT NOW who think this will end well
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>>389136695
I also forgot to add that Nexon pulling an MXM and censoring the Korean version as well.
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>people are literally defending this disgusting left wing paternalism where they think it's appropriate to dictate what the people see rather than allowing them choice

Reminder this censorship is tied in with things like the YouTube censorship debacle, the "free speech for banter in online games" debate and the PUBG bans for "stream sniping" and "horn honking harassment".

The alt-left, which has taken over the Western games industry almost entirely at this point, are pushing HARD for complete control over what ideas and media you consume and the words and actions you can say and make over the internet. This is one of the most bare-faced conspiracies ever and to just roll over and accept it is pathetic. Gamergate and Trump are the first steps. The next thing we need is a liberty revolution; a new shared understanding of liberty and free speech that is enshrined in the legal systems of the West.

No more bans for "toxicity" or "stream honking". No more arrests for criticizing muslims. No more outright censorship of video games, movies, comics or other entertainment forms.

Fight for your right to speak and think freely, rail against these leftist infested corporate monopolies over your mind, or else we will be stomped on forever by the (((communists))) and political correctness.
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>>389136736
Correlation does not equal causation. Notice how each of the black men look like they're part of a gang? Probably because they come from poorer places with lackluster education and thriving gang culture? The issue is impoverishment and failing education. Not simply because they are black so they must commit crime.
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>make fanservicey game
>waste time and money on censoring the fanservice parts
might as well start a bonfire with the money
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>>389136398
well that's just fucking disgusting
who is benefiting from this?
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>>389137032
kinda funny how in literally every black civilization on earth "the issue is impoverishment and failing education" isn't it
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>>389136949
asses are bad
overwatch proved that
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>>389136975
pic related

you on november 8th
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>>389136840
I think you'll find the majority of educated people that come from stable families share the same opinions.

Also you can't use that kind of accusation without putting yourself in the same box.
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repeal the 19th amendament
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>>389136975
>My issue is just that I want my character to look like she actually has any fucking right to be doing what she's doing, you know?
If the female characters were all wearing proper full armour, and the guys were next to them wearing tshirt and shorts I'd hate that just as fucking much. I have a massive thing for verisimilitude, basically.

Its a video game not reality. Just enjoy for what it is. Complaining and whining why a fantasy game isn't grounded in reality is asinine.
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>>389136975
>My issue is just that I want my character to look like she actually has any fucking right to be doing what she's doing, you know?
Another retard complaining about fantasy elements in a fantasy world.
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>>389137125
No. In general, in our current culture, you get away with ridiculous, obviously oversexualized asses. But any hint of cleavage will land you accusations of sexism.
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>>389136736
More murder, less crime. Why do we even do this.
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>>389137096
It is, it's very widespread. Poverty and access to a quality standard of education is one of the worlds biggest problems everywhere and it affects people of all races.
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>>389137182
I mean if you want to play that game, it was actually closer to this.

>>389137210
>>389137212

No no, that's not the point - its the fact that half the characters are grounded in reality and the others arent.
If they were ALL dressed like fucking idiots I wouldnt care either - you get me?

The problem is when there's no internal consistency.
If everything is internally consistently stupid that's fine, just like if things are internally consistently realistic.
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>>389137217
well ok but overwatch still proved that asses are bad
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>>389137190
People hold different moral values. Your percieved "majority of educated people" doesn't change this. Game developers should cater to the values of their core demographic.
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>>389136975
>My issue is just that I want my character to look like she actually has any fucking right to be doing what she's doing, you know?
It's a fantasy game. It's not realistic at all in its gameplay or setting and the character designs are accordingly not realistic either, not on the male or female sides. Why would you want them to be? That's boring.
>If the female characters were all wearing proper full armour, and the guys were next to them wearing tshirt and shorts I'd hate that just as fucking much. I have a massive thing for verisimilitude, basically.
Maybe you should try actually learning a thing about the game in question first then, you hyperbolic dipshit.
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>>389137358
how?
The only "controversy" I remember is over Tracers pose, which seemed like a totally orchestrated marketing piece to me since they only made it more sexual afterwards.

Again I'm not talking about what you might find attractive, but about how our culture is so trigger-happy when it comes to sexualization, but blatantly big and sexualized butts are almost ALWAYS fine.
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>>389137342
so why do blacks always have the same issues in every one of their societies? massive rape rates? horrendously failing infrastructure in former colonies? incredible corruption rates?

kind of lines up with the infographs posted in this thread, shlomo

>>389137352
yeah im sure you were laughing hard that your feminist icon was cucked hard by cheeto hitler
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>>389137352
>internal consistency
Internal consistency is a meme.

I rather take stuff that I enjoy. If internal consistency makes something not look as enjoyable to me, then that should be thrown out of the window.
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>>389137352
Based on the lore all hypers (champions) come from different universes so of course they will all look different and inconsistent.
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>>389137442
>>389137513
See now if someone had just explain that we could have avoided ALL of this.
The whole game is being retarded with designs, and that's just fine.
I retract my complaints forthwith.


>>389137465
>Hillary
>feminist icon
Holy shit, kek.
Trump is a fucking moron, but Hillary is a shrill harpy queen who's about as feminist as your dick.

>>389137490
It may be a meme to you, but it's one of my favourite aspects of setting/universe/lore building. If everything feels like it makes sense in that setting it gets me horny as all hell to play in that setting, whether it be vidya gaems, tabletop games, or even if its just watching a film.

But fair enough, you enjoy what you enjoy my dude.
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>>389137656
>See now if someone had just explain that we could have avoided ALL of this.
Yes, the onus is surely on everyone else to spoonfeed you every single piece of potential information, and not on you to do some basic research before opening your stupid fucking mouth and sharing your uneducated opinion, because you believe that you absolutely must be heard.
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>>389137462
i dunno man
my guess is that it's easier for a (wimin) to grow a big ass than it is for them to grow big tits - a sort of tyranny of the majority, so to speak, in the form of media support
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>>389137656
come now, Hillary is feminist to a T:

>robotic movement and social interaction
>brain damaged
>whines about how "muh womyn experience" changes everything
>whines about how people oppress her for her womyn-hood
>can only attract beta male molesters
>this she is smart and accomplished after all the pats on the back she got for whining her whole life, but can't accomplish anything when push comes to shove
>loses to men at everything

quintessential feminist darling, you must look up to her
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>>389137352
>half the characters are grounded in reality
None of the characters are grounded in reality. The functionality of a characters armor isn't decided by what you think is functional to fight in in this fictional universe. Magic can the be the explanation to all of the inconsistencies you find, magic has always been the explanation for bullshit like that.
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>>389137752
4chan is 90% people expressing their uneducated opinions.
But I'm sure you read up in detail about every comment you've ever made here - you're one of the good guys no odubt.

>>389137841
You really do have to try harder.
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>>389137921
why should I try when I'm talking down to a feminist?
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>>389137921
>Other people don't bother educating themselves, that means it's ok for me to be uneducated too! But I must still have my voice be heard!
You're certainly doing a good job of representing feminists here. Pat yourself on the back.
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>>389137656
This a million times:>>389137752
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>>389137905

Sure, in this game it's over the top.
In other games though, if 'magic!' is why some people wear retarded armour that's just as protective as normal armour - why not combine the two. Why are people wearing normal armour right next to them, why isnt normal armour magic'd so its TWICE as good.
Muh immershun is totally broken by this shit.

>>389137967
Keep it up, you might actually work up a proper insult someday.

>>389138006
I do like this constant assumption that I must be an evil feminist come from tumblr to tell you all your games are sexist, just because I dont like slutty outfits.
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>>389133514
just wanna point out the biggest issue with free speech right now isnt just violence but more importantly its THE INTERNET
the thing about irl free speech is that there WILL be comeuppance if you talk shit but on the internet people can get away with spewing rot for the sake of antagonization, not because these individuals are trying to prove a point

all i can see this doing is more fuel towards internet id legislation
also
things like anti-hate speech legislation are the first steps towards removing free speech among other things
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>>389138052
>I do like this constant assumption that I must be an evil feminist come from tumblr to tell you all your games are sexist, just because I dont like slutty outfits.
Feminist or not, you're still a fucking retard.
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>>389138052
you are the insult here, an insult to humanity and western civilization.

our insult was delivered promptly on the morning of November 8th. you may remember it well.
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I really wish shit like this would stop happening
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>>389138157
And as I said, I'm sure you've never ever commented on anything without thoroughly researching the context behind everything.

>>389138174
I'm not even american anon, you'll really need to reach much harder than "BUT WE VOTED FOR TRUUUUUMP-SENPAI".
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>>389119552
i get the feeling that japs think all americans are religious prudes
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This thread: >>389131394
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>>389138089
>consequences for free speech irl

if you live in EU sure
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>>389138231
yea but then they look at the porn and get ultra jelly
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>>389138052
>Why are people wearing normal armour right next to them, why isnt normal armour magic'd so its TWICE as good
You're literally complaining about inconsistencies in fucking MAGIC. How autistic can you be? For all you know the magic works better on skimpy outfits to due to some MAGICAL reason. Why do you think your headcannon for how fucking nonsensical magic works should be what the devs should adhere to? Everything revolves around you,
you're literally some sort of autist/narcissist hybrid sperg.
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>>389136949
Big butts are easier to get away with since you're going to be looking at the girls face most of the time.
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>>389138228
Trump's election is a pushback against your whole ideology and everything you represent. it affects much more than just America, sweetie.

the biggest world power is now headed by a nazi gamergator :) deal with it
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>>389135685
Look at exactly what OP is moaning about. Look at that picture and tell me with a straight face and mature attitude, that the complaint is actually justified. Look at what /v/ complains about the most and loudest. Stop being so arrogant.
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>>389138316
>. Look at that picture and tell me with a straight face and mature attitude, that the complaint is actually justified
It is though? Censorship is censorship. Only a child thinks sex is somehow a taboo subject and not worthy of discussion. Grow up.
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>>389138316
>Art is censored
>OP complaints that the art is censored
What part isn't justified, exactly?
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>>389138272
I mean if they explain that in setting then we're golden.
Like how in old school D&D, casters dont wear plate armour despite how great it would be.
Why? Because it fucks with magic.
Bam, setting rule, lets roll.

It's not that hard to do. Most just dont bother though. They just go "lmao the bikini is as protective as the abrams tank armour because magic lol" and never actually give more than about a second's thought to the implications of that.


>>389138310
Oh anon.
I was on board with gamergate at the bottom rung from day one.
Still am, in fact.
You really need to know your audience better.

And if you hadn't noticed, my ideology is 'man I wish shit made more sense in video games'.
Didnt realise Trump was so against that.
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>>389130872
because the market is booming. there'll always be a market for things that are 'forbidden'
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this will be easier if everyone in the thread just admitted right now they want to see the cleavage
after that it's a matter of asking the haters why the fuck they feel the need to hide it...
is this game 18+ for E for everyone because that could be the biggest reason for this kind of "censorship"
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>>389138461
>my ideology is 'man I wish shit made more sense in video games'.

weren't you rumbling about how Hillary isn't a real feminist earlier? stop pretending faggot
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>>389138504
Of course I want to see the original intention of the artist. Does it include cleavage? Fine by me.
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>>389138527

Well, I mean, she isnt.
She's a gibbering retard who just goes B-BUT MUH VAGINA THO!? and assumed that meant she deserved to be president.
She's a feminazi, like most of tumblr and reddit and etc.

Doesnt take a feminist to recognise that.
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>>389138504
The game isn't even rated so there's no reason to censor the game anyway.
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>>389121901
Yes lets encourage an attitude of sucking dick for when devs actually do what they are supposed to, that sounds healthy.
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>shit like GoT exists where literally everyone fucks everyone
>god forbid a character made of pixels shows too much skin

americans are retarded as fuck.
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>>389138461
>I mean if they explain that in setting then we're golden
The implication spells that out for you. If you have bikini armor that gives -50% damage reduc and heavy armor that gives the same, the explanation is magic works better on the first type of armor.

Why do you need everything spoonfed to you? >"Wow wtf my character is walking on the ground, but I never saw any formula explaining how gravity works in this universe, so inconsistent omg"
You're an actual drooling retard, think about the implications before asking devs to spoonfeed you everything you can't figure out on your own.
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>>389138658
if that's the case then the "censorship" is bullshit

have the devs ever commented on why the censorship was implemented or even who exactly is doing it or made the decision to do it and based on what grounds?
these are the hard hitting questions that need to be directed at the relevant parties
the truth needs to be exposed and made clear to all!
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>>389138769

Wanting actual details about the lore isnt spoonfeeding anon, that's quite the reach.
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>>389138821
Wanting logical explanations to how magic works is very retarded since it is inherently contradictory. Magic isn't logical, ok? Magic is always inconsistent, it's MAGIC, why are you sperging out about this?
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>>389138815
The devs? No, but the community manager explained why.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/591530/discussions/0/1473095331491132677/?ctp=2#c1473095331491568321
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>>389138972

It bugs me becuase it would take all of about 5 seconds to have some consistency to your game and setting, but they never bother doing it.
Becuase it's not actually a logical conclusion of the world.
They didnt go "okay, so magic works like this - that means these cahracters would/could look like this and do this, but these ones look like this"
They went "Okay so we want tits, how do we justify that?"
"Magic?"
"Magic."

And then they stopped there. No why, no how, no reason - just tits.
Which is disappointing fucking design.
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>>389121023
Did he tried to punch through her tits?
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>>389139076
Hello everyone,

I implore everyone to read the original thread on the official forums regarding censorship.[forums.hyperuniverse.nexon.net]

If you pay attention, as some others have quoted, the changes were more so to make the female's chest areas look more human and, well, a bit less ridiculous. Some of the females are a bit more modest in size and clothes compared to other versions of the game. We had complaints when we were at PAX South, in Alpha, and Closed Beta hence the decision to do what we did, without going overboard and giving every character a turtleneck sweater.

There are hard and thoughtful reasonings behind what we did - we do not want Hyper Universe to come off as a "quick cash scheme", as we want to support it in the long term future. Some thoughts we took into consideration was potential broadcasting and tournament streams where some Hypers may make viewers feel uncomfortable or questionable to watch due to various reasons.

Overall, these changes do not detract from the gameplay nor the art in the game.

I would also say that speculating about future Hypers being censored is nearly worthless until they release or their art is shown for this region - especially regarding a certain succubus

so they are worried theyll lose money from people who wont even play the game (or pay for it) because those people might feel uncomfortable about the cleavage

so like 2 people will be appeased
WIN i guess
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>>389139238
>"Yo, designer-kun, make us a character that looks nice"
>"Got you senpai"
>"Also, once you are done, go over some hoops to somehow explain why the character design works in the setting"
>"I, uhh, why?"
>"I don't know. Some autistic people think it's incosistent otherwise and just magic doesn't cut it"
It's simply work for the designer that adds nothing to the game. It's waste basically.
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>>389139076
>we had complaints

from some fat disgusting SJWhale

it fucking annoys me how people in the games industry are so quick to fall for crybullying. it wasnt always like this before the leftists came and ruined it all.
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>>389139420

"Okay so magic in our system works like this."
"Right."
"So the knights and fighters have big armour, but the mages and casters tend to dress like this."
"Okay, cool.
"Now go draw some magic titties."

Why not do it this way around?
Come up with basic setting ideas before drawing all the characters.
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>>389119621
Every time.
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>>389121023
it's literally once of the most played mmos in the world
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>>389139342
Just look all those people buying this game in droves. I mean wow I'm glad they censored out all that problematic content.
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>>389134770
Liberals like to think that opinions they don't share can be justifiably reacted to with violence, yet opinions they do share cannot be reacted negatively to, violently or otherwise, lest the person reacting be labeled problematic and therefore deserving of punishment.
Liberals: you cannot continue to think that your opinions must be protected because some perceived inherent moral righteousness yet opinions of others can be silenced due to their "problematic" nature.
Or continue with it if you want, pretty sure we're locked on course to a real shitshow already.
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>>389127186
>Women bully the SHIT out of other girls who are still virgins.
Women bully the shit out of other women for fucking anything.
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>>389119552
v/ is supposed to be a board for videogames enthusiasts and hardcore gamers, and yet at any given time it is possible to see multiple threads about Nintendo, a company infamous in the sector for being the one that most widely caters to the taste of casual and occasional gamers.

Now, I don't see any threads on /tv/ about series like Modern Family or Grey's Anatomy, despite both being some of the most popular TV series airing, and that's because the userbase is mature enough to either not watch those programs clearly aimed at a completely different audience than the film enthusiasts who browse it, or to realize that discussing them is out of place in a site dedicated to enthusiasts of particular interests like 4chan is.

On the other hand, Nintendo threads plague /v/ constantly, and are some of the worst threads on the board in the matter of quality of posts. This, of course reflects the immature and non-internet-savy nature of the average Nintendo fan, which is not and could ever not be a videogames enthusiasts, so these threads pose an actual nuisance to the actual hardcore gamers that wished to discuss their hobby with likeminded individuals on /v/. They are also known falseflagggers, shitposters and general console warriors, further decreasing the quality of content on the board.

My proposal to solve this issue, which is arguably one of the root causes for the current state of /v/, is to ban any user that mentions anything related to Nintendo, be it games, consoles or IPs. I'm sure that the quality of the board would increase tremendously, as the moderation makes clear that Nintendo fans are not welcome on /v/, driving them away from the userbase in a permanent manner, thus removing the main source of bad content on the board.

Feel free to discuss how long the ban should be, I advocate a 3 days ban for first offenders and then a permanent ban for repeat offenders.
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>>389120965
>>389136895
Isn't this only for chinks?
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>>389139523
Dude you're so daft. There is no consistent explanation for magic. They can't provide you an explanation for how magic works because it's inherently contradictory

>Our magic i system is built on orbs
>1 red orb can create x amount of fire
>But how does an orb create energy out of thin air?
>oh um, the laws of physics are different in this universe
>Yea? Gonna need a model of this worlds physics, otherwise I'm gonna autistically scream inconsistency!
>*dev realizes it's not worth the effort to please ultra autists and leaves some interpretive freedom for the player*
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>>389139854
dont forget talking about games for babies on a board intended for adults carries an inherent risk since it hast he potential to draw actually babies to the board
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>>389139960
You dipstick I dont want rules for it based on the physics of the real world.
I want the fantasy world to have some vague consistency in how magic works.

If the whole shtick is that magic is wild and unpredictable, then fine - but why the fuck is anyone using it then if it's completely impossible to predict?

In your example, 1 red orb creates a ball of fire.
Does that 1 red orb always create a ball of fire?
yes?
Congrats you have achieve internal consistency for your fireballs.
That's all it takes, Im not saying you need a scientific thesis for how magic works, dear god.
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>>389140187
>Magic can enhance armor
>More magic can be focused into small pieces of armor
>Bikini armor becomes stronger than heavy armor
There's your internal consistency, the dev doesn't have to state this to you in a text file somewhere in the game. It is implied since bikini armor gives more armor than heavier armors. You can infer this yourself if you have half a brain.
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>>389125778

I'll own up to that. I legit only bought Automata because 2B is the most fuckable video game character ever made.
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>>389139780
there is a difference between modern liberals and liberal people that would probably now be considered center or right-leaning by said modern liberals. it's impossible to disagree on anything without someone being offended to the highest degree now.
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>>389140498
Okay.
So if magic is focused into tiny bits of armour.
Why not wear the bikini under some plate as well?
That'd be great, you'd have double the protection!
Or if you absolute cant do that, why not wear it under/over a tunic of some kind so you at least dont get cold.

HURR DURR IT IMPLIES YOU CANT DO THAT isnt good enough, especially since without any justification or explanation it becomes increasingly obvious that the only reason is "we wanted to have sluts and couldnt even be bothered to give a reason for why".
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>>389135186
look at what happened to that one dude from Polygon, he was just trying to get some pussy (albeit at work, which isn't a good idea, but still) and you see his coworkers and other feminists saying "oh I am so sorry for what this monster has done, but I am glad no one else will be subjected to his destructive ways" like he's some kind of barbaric fucking rapist. it's disgusting.
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>>389119875
oh we'll get there
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>>389140814
The armor's magic only works when it is worn on its own.
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>>389140814
That'd be heavier mages probably want to be mobile. Magic can protect from cold (hint: magic can do anything). There's probably the aspect of personal preference too.

>we wanted to have sluts and couldnt even be bothered to give a reason for why
The developers motivations are not part of the games canon. Maybe they wanted nice tits in a bikini in the game, that doesn't make the game inconsistent. The gaps are filled by magic (hint: your headcannon for how magic works doesn't matter).

It seems you're just uncomfortable with skimpy characters for some reason, and that's fine. But at least admit to it instead of blaming "muh consistency boogeyman".
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>>389140814
>we wanted to have sluts
And that's entirely valid reason. Anyone with a half a brain can fill in the gaps with "magic" and not be bothered by it.
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>>389137352
man you type like a huge faggot lol
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>>389119760
>being this much of a cuck
>tips fedora
>miladies
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>>389119552
Before the thing is released. I don't give a shit. Retroactively in a game I have purchased. Fuck yeah. The challenge in that is obviously what can be considered censorship when basically all games these days future retroactive changes.
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>>389141171
>>389141118
>>389141240
>uncomfortable
Not particularly, it just strikes me as lazy pandering and I dont particularly want my character to look like a slut.

But sure, if they say that in game?
It's dumb, but if its consistently applied then it's fine.
Of course, the consistency issue becomes 'why then do all the guys end up wearing armour instead of magical boxer shorts' since that's almost always the case.

>hurr durr fill in the gaps
Okay, what fills the gap of why only women end up dressing skimpily in this amazing magic armour, whilst guys will inevitably be dressed in normal clothes? I mean if magic's so great in this setting, why isnt it a constant beach party?
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HEY WHY DONT THE DEVS RELEASE BOTH VERSIONS AND GIVE THE USER THE OPTION TO TURN ON OR OFF THE OFFENSIVE CONTENT?
THAT WAY NOBODY GETS MAD OR COMES OFF AS KILL JOYS BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN HURT FEELINGS
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>>389141171
>>389141240
>>389141413

Oh and before the LMAO FEMINIST shit, it would be just as retarded if it was a game made by some slavering fujoshits and all the men were in in magical boxer shorts all day, but all the women were wearing normal clothes.
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>>389141413
There aren't that many gay wizards making magic banana hammocks for beefy warriors. Most wizards are into chicks.
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>>389141413
>Okay, what fills the gap of why only women end up dressing skimpily
Because they want to dress like it but the magic of the setting makes it that they are just as a valid as a armor as anything else.

See, it's easy as fuck.
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I don't like it, the developers shouldn't have to censor nor make anything just because it is or isn't relevant to the current political climate. But as we all know it isn't only the SJWs pushing for this but the people on top of them.
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>>389141449

That'd really be the ideal.
It'd also be funny because then the people who cry for censorship under the pretense that they dont want to see something, would have to either take it and shut up or reveal that they dont want anyone to have fun ever.
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>>389141449
its not about player choice, its about pushing their agenda anon
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I find it hard to care much because it's Nexon, and most of their games are shit anyway. I'm surprised they kept in the breast jiggle in Dynasty Warriors Unleashed.
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>>389141413
>what fills the gap of why only women end up dressing skimpily
Personal preference. The women in this universe prefer these armors for aesthetic reasons, skimpy armor has the same power level as heavy armor, it's simply a question of taste. Again you can deduct this yourself without having it spelled out for you.

Just tell us you don't like skimpy female outfits because you dislike the aesthetic, that's a valid complaint rather than "Hurr this fantasy universe is inconsistent".
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>>389141449
The possibility of problematic content is problematic.
You gotta think like a feminist. Step 1: turn your brain off.
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>>389141569

Well why dont men want to?
Every time it's even slightly warm, all the guys around here start going topless everywhere - from the stacked buff guy showing off to the fat beer-belly asshole down the road.
So why dont guys like doing that in this setting?
I mean if youre gonna wear plate and cloth under it, you're gonna overheat fast.

Why not just wear some magic slacks and call it a day?
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>>389119552
Lmao literally who game.
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>>389141636
well then that's just fucking disgusting and the devs dont deserve any fucking money for being politi-fucks
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>>389119552
I'm going to avoid this game then. It is obvious that the actual players either did not want this censorship - this much is painfully obvious from a quick glance at the game's steam forum - or they don't give a shit.

The devs are literally pandering to triggered cunts they met at a games convention, who will never play the game anyway.

That is a good enough reason for me to boycott their games from now on.
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>>389141480
>it would be just as retarded if it was a game made by some slavering fujoshits and all the men were in in magical boxer shorts all day
No that would be fucking cool, you actual retard. Being sexually attractive is a good trait.
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SJW faggotry is toning down lately. Saw some FGC faggot mocking people for fantasizing about Menat and the overall response was "dude who gives a shit. Let people do whatever they want" in which he awkwardly backpedaled.

Basically a few years ago everyone would have agreed with him. He expectted a circlejerk and it didn't happen.
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>>389121028
The funny thing is I actually bought the game cause I saw the right image. Then when I finally got it in game I realized it wasn't the same and couldn't figure out why. Googled it and realized later it was censored. That was really a slap in the face.
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>>389141721
Why would they want to? Maybe they actually like what they already wear and don't want to change.

>Why not just wear some magic slacks and call it a day?
They simply don't want to.
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>>389141413
I don't know, whenever I go outside most guys are wearing jeans and shirts while every other woman is wearing short shorts and tight tank tops.
Why is life so inconsistent, Anon?
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>>389141721
>I mean if youre gonna wear plate and cloth under it, you're gonna overheat fast.
Magic cooling. Easy.
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>>389141721
>Well why dont men want to
Because in this universe the men prefer heavy armor for aesthetic reason. Discrepancies between the tastes of the two genders are a real thing in real life and in this fantasy universe.
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>>389141694

Except I dislike the aesthetic because it is hugely inconsistent.

I dont dislike attractive women, or tits, or ass, or legs or any of that shit.
Sure, I dont play games to get that shit, because I can get it fine on the internet. But if other people do, that's no skin off my nose, i dont give a shit what other people get off to.

It's just when it's put in a game just for people to get off to without any care given for the consistency of the game world that it gets annoying.
Using sex to sell it at the expense of having verisimilitude is frustrating as hell.

>>389141825
From a 'wow arent these people hot' perspective?
Sure.
I just dont play video games for that.
I play video games to have fun and to explore made up worlds. And I like my made up worlds to have some fucking consistency.

>>389141930
Oh, so you CAN put magic in the armour now?
Interesting.

>>389141880
>>389141863

Oh, so all women like dressing one way in this world and all men like dressing the other?
And if you're really trying to say that you never see women who arent wearing just short shorts and a bra, and never see men who arent fully covered up then you're actually lying. There is no other way around it, that just simply isnt true.
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>>389142053
>And if you're really trying to say that you never see women who arent wearing just short shorts and a bra, and never see men who arent fully covered up then you're actually lying.

A higher percentage of women wear revealing clothing then the percentage of men do. That's how it is, sweetheart.
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>>389142053
>Oh, so you CAN put magic in the armour now?
I don't know who was against it. But with magic you can have anyone wearing whatever they want and be as effective. Some men want to wear plate armor, some something else. Some women want to wear bikini armor or suggestive clothing, some full armor. It doesn't matter. It's all just as good. Because. Fucking. Magic.

>Oh, so all women like dressing one way in this world and all men like dressing the other?
I don't know what kind of games you play but the ones I can think of usually have different designs for every character. They are all just as "inconsistent" and I can easily just explain them in my head as magic.

But sure, in that particular world, women want to dress skimpy and men in full armor. What's the problem?
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>>389119621
>>389119658
>>389119760

Wanna know how I know you don't have a creative bone in your body?
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>Kyroliger came here to shitpost too
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>>389142053
>you never see women who arent wearing just short shorts and a bra
It's a fantasy universe, you utterly daft gash of a cunt. There can be fantasy things like "100% of women like wearing bikinis", it doesn't have to cater to what you find realistic. All the physical inconsistencies are covered by magic.
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>>389141645
Nexon didn't develop the game. Nexon have a perfectly legitimate history of ruining good games.
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>>389142337
Remember that no matter how bad it gets, at least you aren't Kyroliger.
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>>389142279

Well except the whole argument against "Why cant I wear the magic armour bikni AND the armour" being 'Becuase you cant and magic only works on smaller things like bikinis, you cant enchant full clothing'.

>>389142201
Sure, I'm not trying to debate that.
Fashion is as fashion does, and i mean if nothing else women just have more choices than men irl for the clothes they want.

But by your own admission, some men do and somen women dont then.
So... why do they all do it here?
Is there some other ridiculousness at play that causes literally every single woman in this entire setting (other than the fat or old ones of course, we dont want that) to wear a bikini all the time?

Why arent some of them choosing to wear something a bit more modest, or hell, just a bit less attention grabbing than a bikini?

>>389142279
>what's the problem
Because maybe I'd like some choices for my character other than 'be a giant slut in one of three different colours and styles'?
It's retarded to just say "nope sorry every single female here is a huge slut whilst all men are manly men who always wear armour. Even to bed"
And it's entirely obviously just a ploy to attract the 'man who for some reason cant get porn on the internet' audience.
And you know what? That's a legi audience. It's fucking huge, and they'd be silly to turn them away.

But why does EVERYTHING have to be that way.
Why not what this guy said >>389141449
Why not both? Why not appease everyone and attract everyone at the same time?
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He walks among us
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Is the game fun though?
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>>389119621
Fuck off retard.
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>>389142924
>But why does EVERYTHING have to be that way.
Sometimes the devs don't cater to you, sweetie. Plenty of players like sex appeal in their games and companies can capitalize on this by pleasing this demographic. Making a game that appeals to everyone is a much more risky than making a niche one. Not everyone can be the next Overwatch. Every company that has tried that instead of specializing has failed.
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>>389142952
He's a huge shill faggot.
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>>389142924
>Why cant I wear the magic armour bikni AND the armour" being
You can but no one wants to. I mean why would you if you can achieve the same efficiency with whatever you choose to wear?

>So... why do they all do it here?
If they do, then they do in that particular setting.
If they don't, then they don't in that particular setting.
It's matter of preference that is different in these 2 settings.

>But why does EVERYTHING have to be that way.
Because it sells. Go support the games that don't do this it or make your own.

>Why not appease everyone and attract everyone at the same time?
Jesus christ no. Appealing to everyone just makes you lose your initial fans.
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>>389143218
>Every company that has tried that instead of specializing has failed.

Well, other than Blizzard apparently who have managed to have both in everything for a long while and somehow still have retarded amounts of money.

DOnt get me wrong, their games are shit, but to just say 'nope, throwing in a couple of outfits which arent slut central will ruin your game's chances of ever getting anywhere' is patently ridiculous.

>>389143241
But it wouldnt be the same efficiency.
If you could wear magic armour of +10 as well as normal armour of +10 why the fuck wouldnt you?


And as above - why would putting in an alt costume which isnt tits and ass turn away fans?
What would insult you so much specifically about a costume for a character that isnt just a bikini?
Like, I'm not about to say "Wow they released a DLC for my favourite character which is just a bikini? im fucking dropping this game." Im just not going to wear it.
Why would people freak out the other way around?
People who dont want it dont care, people who do want it do care.

You dont have to force anyone to wear one or the other. THAT is what turns people away.
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>>389143460
>If you could wear magic armour of +10 as well as normal armour of +10 why the fuck wouldnt you?
Because you can only apply the bonus once.
Easy. There is default bonus of X for whatever you wear. It doesn't matter what you wear. So you can choose fashion and this is what the characters do.

>why would putting in an alt costume which isnt tits and ass turn away fans?
This is fine.
But the stuff in the OP is not. And that's what we are talking about here. You are talking about additional content, not taking away or changing content. Two different things.
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>>389143124
http://steamcharts.com/app/591530
What do you think?
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>>389143631

Nah, the argument has evolved way beyond that point.
And I've been pretty pro having both for the whole time.

>so you can choose fasion and this is what the characters do
Only some of the characters of course.
The guys all choose to be big metal-adorned hulks whilst the women choose the permanent beach holiday.
I want that choice to be the player's, if we've got to have bikini armour to make people happy, at least allow me to not have to wear it.
Or vice versa.
If all the armours sensible, sure, fuck it, add boxers and bikinis for those who want to run around like its the fanservice episode.
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>>389143801
>The guys all choose to be big metal-adorned hulks whilst the women choose the permanent beach holiday.
Are you saying the guy in huge armor does not choose what he wears? Plate armor can be a fashion statement just as bikinis are.
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>>389143919

Sure.
But its funny how all the guys choose to be covered up and all the girls choose to be sluts.
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>>389144048
From inconsistent to funny. There can be funny elements in a fantasy universe.
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Is this game in closed beta? Can i play it now?
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>>389144182

I was quite obviously being sarcastic, but yes.
It is entirely lacking in verisimilitude for every single person you dont want to fap over dressing as 'normal' and every person you do want to fap over dressing in a bikini.

It isnt a universe made for a game with game rules.
It's fap bait, which has been morphed into a game so they can charge more for it.
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>>389144329
You can have fap bait AND good game
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>>389119875

I agree. I was extremely disappointed with Treehouse for half assing their supposed replacement for Fire Emblem Amie in Fates. Localization is an inevitable consequence of international releases, but removing content should be an absolute last resort. They could have at least kept the minigame in but altered the dialog such that the characters thought you were being weird as fuck, at least we wouldn't lose access to content just because of western sensibilities.

When it comes to seeing more or less tiddie, I don't really care one way or another.
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>>389144230
If you mean the one in the topic. It's in early access right now for 16$. As long as you're in US or some part of EU you'll be able to play it just fine.
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>>389144407

Usually, not if you want a consistent setting which makes sense as part of your definition of 'good game'.

That said, I've never understood why people want fap bait in their games anyway.
Sure, attractive characters is one thing but why do they have to be dressed like theyre about to step into hentai?
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>>389144535
Fucking kidding me? I thought it was f2p. Early access was and will always be a fucking mistake.
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>>389144603
>Sure, attractive characters is one thing but why do they have to be dressed like theyre about to step into hentai?
Because, get this, people LIKE how they look. Imagine that.
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>>389144704

Sure.
But why? What's so mind blowing about "WOW look, this female character here is dressed like *anime porn*, my god yes."
I just do not fucking get it.

If I want hentai ill read some fucking hentai, if Im playing fucking video games, give me a well thought out world and a story and some good gameplay.
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>>389144603
> I've never understood why people want fap bait in their games anyway
People can have tastes that differ from your own, weird notion right? But get this, sometimes developers make choices to please a demographic with different tastes than yours. Crazy right? That your subjective opinion isn't the golden standard of the gaming industry, who would've thought?
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>>389138231
Dunno, CERO often are even more retarded than ESRB.
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>>389144657
I can throw a copy your way if you want. I don't mind.
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>>389144848
>Imagine being so narcissistic that you attack choices made by game developers that don't cater to your personal taste as inconsistent because you can't fathom why people aren't thinking like yourself, the shining God of superior judgement and taste
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>>389144848
What do you mean why? Because it's what they like.
Why do YOU find anything visually appealing?

And there is nothing saying you can't mix up many things from many different sources. Why can't you enjoy suggestive character designs outside of porn? You are just dividing up aspects of many things just for the sake of dividing them.
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>>389144901
>>389145013

>imagine being s butthurt that someone else has a problem with a game you want to jack off to that you take personal offence at it

If half a populationa re doing x for no reason and the other half are doing y for no reason, the setting is not internally consistent.
This is the problem i have with it, since I value good worldbuilding in my made up vidya settings.
The reason the devs have done this is becuase they want fap bait to appeal to people who like fap bait.

I just do not understand why people want their video games to look like porn. I dont care if they do - more power to them, that's fine.
I just dont understand, when there's a million other places to get porn, why you want your games to look like it too.

No need to get upset by that.


>>389145113
Sure.
I just cant see why it's SUCH a big deal to people that if something is made a bit less porn-like they get upset.

And I thoroughly enjoy suggestive designs outside porn.
If it's fitting to a character, then fuck yeah set it up.
But when every single character is suggestive, it ceases to be interesting at all, because it's no longer an interesting 'trait' of the character. It's just porn, with some attempt at gameplay, and pretending not to be porn.
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>>389128485
Name one (1) time the 'collective gestalt' of /v/ has DEMANDED that a minority character be REMOVED AND REPLACED with a non-minority character. Not just "this character sucks", "this character needs to be replaced". One example. I'll wait.
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>>389145340
>I just dont understand, when there's a million other places to get porn,
Pornhub doesn't offer gameplay and the stories are shit
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>>389145532
>>389145532
>>389145532
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>>389145443

Kek.
Now see, that I can work with.

If you want your porn to have gameplay and a storyline beyond
"I HEARD THERE WAS A LEAK"
"YES, IN MY VAGINA"
I can see why you'd want porn games.

But i mean at the same time, if you're valuing the story of the world cant you see why I'd value the setting making sense?
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>>389134770
>plz no slippery slope arguments
>plz don't use the argument that disproves my point
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>>389135620
Do you hate capitalism or something?
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