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https://www.destructoid.com/monster-hunter-xx-on-switch-only-moves-around-49-of-its-stock-458492.phtml
>While the initial sales numbers for the game aren't too shabby, shifting around 84,277 units, Monster Hunter XX for Switch debuted as one of the weakest launches for the series to date. In terms of how many units Capcom sent out to retail, the game managed to sell through about 49% of its stock (48.95% to be exact).

MH is dead on Nintendo.
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>B-but Japs don't want World!
>Japs won't want a MonHun not on a handheld, guys!
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>>389105606
Aw, man. This probably isn't getting localized, is it. I wanted to get it as my first monhun game.
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>>389105754

Don't give a shit about nintendo but MH is relaxing to play on a handheld thats not 240p and feels comfortable. Curling up in bed with MH3U went a long ways toward making my Wiiu feel worth it.
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>>389105606
Maybe Japan is finally getting sick of the second versions
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>>389105606

For Japan, It's a late port on a home console.

Like Monster Hunter 3G HD Edition.
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BUT XX IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE LAST TRUE MONHUN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>rehash a game only a year later with subpar additions for rehashes in the series
>rehash it again half a year later, this time with absolutely no additions
>put it on a shitty excuse for a handheld
>also announce the next mainline title for a separate platform before release, implying going forward the series will be on that

not surprised
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>>389105976
Capcom made sure to sabotage the release. It's EA's WiiU games all over again.

Also, it's the same game as the 3DS version, so it's not even a true upgrade like Tri to Ultimate.
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>>389106298
Ahh yes, just like how Nintendo tried to sabotage P3rd HD's release
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HD MH games first week sales:

MHXX HD: 84,277
MH3G HD: 106,388 (Wii U console debut)
MHP3 HD: 287,829
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Bro, it's a Sony conspiracy!
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How much new stuff is in XX, anyway?

I only know about the rocket dragon and the robot mantis. Any other new monsters?
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>>389106298

America got both the 3DS and Wii U versions of Ultimate on the same day.

In Japan the Wii U version came a year after the 3DS version.
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>>389106781
In brief:

New story
New gathering hall
New NPCs
New area
New rocket dragon and robot mantis
New G rank quests, monsters, equips
New brave style and alchemy style
New cat stuff and cat item delivery
Returning monsters like snow narga
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>>389106781
Deviants for astalos, gammoth, malfestio, ceanataur, mizutsune, and diablos.
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>port of a game every jap already owns twice (Generations and XX) sells poorly on a new system
Really activates my almonds
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>>389106781

New Deviants
- Armor Shredder Shogun Ceanataur
- Blue Thunderlord Astalos
- Heavenly Eye Mizutsune
- Hidden Haze Malfestio
- Massacre Demon Diablos
- Silver Ridge Gammoth

New Monsters
- Valphalk (The Rocket Dragon)
- Atoraru Ka (New Neopteron)

Returning Large Monsters
- Basarios
- Diablos
- Gravios
- Fatalis
- Crimson Fatalis
- Lao-Shan Lung
- Congalala
- Giadrome
- White Fatalis
- Barioth
- Barroth
- Nerscylla
- Chaotic Gore Magala
- Raging Brachydios
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>>389106298
Capcom isnt like that at all. They shat out a port of Street Fighter 2 which encouraged them to make more ports for it. The thing about MH is that the hype for XX with slighty better graphics is dead.
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>>389105976

If they do announce a localization, it likely won't happen until Stories is released internationally next week.

At least if localization does get announced we'll see simultaneous release of the 3DS and Switch versions outside of Japan.
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>>389108359
>They shat out a cheap ass, over priced port of Street Fighter II for the switch. People actually bought it, but that doesn't belay the fact it was designed to fail.

>>389108387
>>389106525
That was all on Sony for refusing to set up online and forcing them to implement trophies. (More in line with 'normal' trophies, not the little awards you get in game.)
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>>389105606
I'm attributing this to >>389106271 and the fact that Switches are still a pain in the ass to find
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>>389108703
Yes and Nintendo tried to force amiibos on mainline. Got anymore conspiracies to share?
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>>389108703
Its no different from the entire beginning of 8th gen consoles, with shitty overpriced ports everywhere.
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>>389108889
Which is a lie, any third party devs who want to make amiibo can do it on their own time.

>>389109162
When you make a port from 4 generations ago, that's a slap in the face.
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>>389108703
And just 2 weeks after MHP3rd HD actual launch in Japan (despite all those shortcomings right?), MH3G and MH4 were announced. And MH3G was already ready to come out 2 months after the announcement. Capcom sure works fast in their rage.

Also,

2006-05-09: Announced development of PS3 "Monster Hunter 3" at "Capcom Official Press Release"

2007-09-20: Announced Monster Hunter Portable 2ndG at Tokyo Gameshow 2007

2007-10-10: Announced Monster Hunter 3 for Wii, PS3 version cancelled at "Nintendo conference 2007 Autumn"

2008-03-27: Monster Hunter Portable 2ndG released
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>>389105606
Maybe if they fucking LOCALIZED IT
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No wonder Capcom wants to abandon Nintendo.
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>>389105606
yea people still cant get switches either. Also fuk nintendo im glad MH is moving on to more powerful systems.
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>>389105606
I guess japs weren't in the mood to buy a game they already owned on the 3DS for months now.
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>>389105606
Hasn't the game already been out on 3DS for months in Nipland? I can't imagine a lot of people wanting to double dip on the same entry for an annualized series like Monhun.
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>>389110236
At the moment, Switch owners are mostly comprised of Nintenbros and normies, who don't buy any MH game. Only very very tiny portion of Switch owners is made up of MH fans who thought the next mainline MH will be on the Switch, and bought the console early.

Meanwhile, most MH fans all abandon the Switch train the moment MHW is announced, which explains why MHXX fucking bombed so hard on Switch.
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>>389111056
>Sony
>Not normalfag HQ
It's a CoD and FIFA machine only
Capcom is expecting world to bomb hard, it's why they say 1.5 million in sales is their target. Keep in mind this was the same group of assholes who said Resident Evil 7 needed to have 7 million in sales to be considered a success.
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>>389111056
>>389105606

Switch started to sell poorly the moment MHW got announced.
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>>389110829
That's why we compare it to other HD releases. Like MHP3 HD and MH3G HD
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>>389111441
They haven't announced a sales target for MHW. And the sales target for RE7 was 4 million.
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>>389111780
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>>389105606
Well no fucking shit, this launch has been a disaster. Japan-only trash is always trash. No one but the most hardcore fags wants to read moon runes.
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>>389111441
When did I ever mention Sony, retard? I only have a PC and a 3DS (which I bought solely for MH).

I am gonna play MHW on my PC but if the community is more active on PS4, I might buy a PS4 too and double dip on MHW.
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>>389112107
I'm don't see an announcement from Capcom there.
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>>389112420
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>>389112485
Where does it say they expect 1.5 million sales from Monster Hunter World?
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>>389112576
That's why the guy has a separate source and mentions the source. From Capcom itself, you only have MvC:I estimate and total estimates.
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>>389111056
>>389110236
>>389111502
How did you fit all of that bullshit up your ass?
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>>389112776
Same way you did here >>389108703
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idort but i never used my switch until i got mhxx
really i'm enjoying mhxx way more than i did gen. playing 1080p monhun on a badass tv is great, despite all the shitty gen gimmicks. it even looks great in handheld mode

just goes to show how used to shitty 3ds monhun we are
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>>389112707
>claim that Capcom said something
>get called out
>"well it was actually a tweet from some random guy but he had a source"
>that source is also not Capcom
what a fruitful exchange
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You're crazy if you believe Capcom only expects to sell 1.5m MHW copies
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>>389113969
Yeah sure

https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj
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>>389111441
You're talking about RE6. RE7 made its budget back, and the PS4 as well as the PC have a niche audience who buy and support games. More people also own those platforms instead of a switch.
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>>389114303
Capcom only expected 2 million from Tri, on the fucking Wii. I wouldn't be surprised if MHW's target was somewhere in that range. They know MH doesn't sell as well on home consoles as on handhelds
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>>389105606
That's because interest in Monster Hunter is dying. It was originally an MMO for people who hated the normal tropes of MMOs, like the fact that grinding is so low in the game RELATIVE to other MMOs at the time where drop rates could be as low as 0.001%. They've slowly been undoing this, increasing the grind, decreasing drop rates, and eventually people started picking up that they were doing more work for less fun and started to drop it in higher quantities.

Prediction: World will have a dramatic spike for awhile because it's new, shiny, HD, and has high promises. But then it will slowly start sinking back down to the numbers its at now.

Screencap this.
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>>389116020

>They've slowly been undoing this, increasing the grind, decreasing drop rates

Factually untrue, drop rates for plates, gems etc were much lower in the earlier games. Ever since 3rd gen all the rarest materials have been around 5% chance per hunt.
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>>389116020
What? If anything, rare drops have only gotten better. The only RNG that should hit with any amount of absurdity is when people are charm farming.
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>>389115651
Did Tri even sell that well? Wii already had a reputation as a garbage gimmick console at the time it released. I know it had a fairly aggressive TV marketing campaign. I picked up my copy in a clearance bin.
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>>389116578

Charms are the only retarded grind left in MH, I'd be 100% okay with them getting rid of charms entirely in MHW or making them crafted items instead.
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>>389116649
1.9 million to date
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>>389105754
The game has been out for the 3ds for awhile and sold for 1.6ish million copies. Everyone that wanted thjs game already has it. 1.6mil for a monster hunter game exclusive to japan is pretty bad tbqh, 85k is a fucking disaster.
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>>389105976
>I wanted to get it as my first monhun game

then you should be feel lucky that it won't get a localization, X/XX is not a good MonHun. Play a better MonHun like MH3U or 4U

best entrypoint still is P3rd so I'd recommend you download the PSP emulator, add the HD textures and play online
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>>389106271
not an excuse when before even Switch version was announced, XX was still the worst selling MH since Portable 1

Gen/X killed the series for many veterans fans and at this point, nobody want to play another 240p game
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Everyone realized MHW is the true sequel and XX is a lazy cash grab. It's funny how this gen is an opposite last gen for MH. Maybe Iwata dying changed Capcom's attitude towards Nintendo. Or maybe years of Sony paying for Capcom games finally paid off.
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>>389118065
What changed Capcom's attitude towards Sony when they decided to abandon them for the past 8 years?
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>>389117807

What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to perform to get yourself to believe that?
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>>389118145
For the past 5 years, Sony have been pretty much partly paying for every Capcom game. SFV, RE7 and so on.sony commands huge respect amidst Japanese third-parties.
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>>389118316
Yeah but what happened before that that changed Capcom's attitude towards Sony?
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>>389118251

It's true though, hunter styles/arts don't really mesh with what the series has always been about. Which is why MHW is throwing all that shit out and going back to the roots. Saying that it "killed the series" is hyperbolic, but Gen/XX definitely have a lot of changes that fans of the older games don't like.

>>389118470

Money
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>>389118553
Money from who?
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>>389118470
Capcom is quite okay with taking money from Sony. They were throughout those same years that MH fled to Nintendo. Do you not remember all of the games that ended up on the ps3/psp and not on a Nintendo system? Nintendo doesn't pay third parties and it hurts them. They either totally buy the company or fund the game and want the rights entirely.
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>>389118604

Sony probably paid Capcom a shitload to make MHW for everything but the Switch
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>people will never stop hating on X(X)
I find it odd that there's so much rather irrational hate for this particular entry in the series. It's not even as bad as people make it out to be.
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>>389118604
Sony paid Capcom to make MH3 on Wii and cancel the PS3 version?

>>389118625
Yeah but do you remember all the MH games that were not on Sony? Like for 6 years back to back?
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>>389108432
Is Stories supposed to be any good?
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>>389118748
First reply meant for >>389118671
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>>389118748
Let's see...
>Tri
Back to sony with P3rd. Sony fucks up with the MH team and adhoc.
>3U to XX
Aaaaand multiplat now, where Nintendo loses on the basis of Nintendo getting hit out of multiplay since their hardware usually has special considerations in development. This isn't some giant mystery.
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>>389107073
What do the new styles do?
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>>389118748
>seems to forget P3rd + HD which were post Tri
I mean the Wii also got MHDos or whatever it was.
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>>389118986
But what led to Tri being announced 2 years before it came out on Wii? And what led to MH3G and MH4 in just 2 weeks after P3rd HD?

See >>389109849
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>>389107756
>2 new monsters

Well no fucking wonder no one wants this turd.
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>>389119092
6 years of back to back MH on Nintendo. From 2011 to 2017.

Let's count them (using FY format instead of calendar year):
2011 - MH3G (MH4 were also announced)
2012 - MH3G HD
2013 - MH4
2014 - MH4G
2015 - MHX
2016 - MHXX
2017 - MHXX HD and MHW
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>>389119238
MH4G also had only 2 new monsters.
MH3G also had only 2 new monsters
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>>389119318
>>389119112
It's pretty well-speculated that they disagreed about ad-hoc and multiplayer on the PSP for portables. The Wii was selling gangbusters at the time and the PS3 was not.
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>>389119716
It was definitely Nintendo paying them off. They published the game in the west. Just that tells you Nintendo was sending them millions.
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>>389119853
And your proof is where, exactly? Nintendo has a long-ass track record of being stingy as fuck with third parties.
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>>389119716
Yet MHP3rd HD launched with AHP compatibility that Sony Japan spent the effort for making it happened. Yet MH3G and MH4 were annnounced 2 weeks later and MH3G coming out 2 months after.
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>>389118553
Do you have a single satisfact to snack that up, aside from how you personally feel about the gens?
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>>389119908
>And your proof is where, exactly?
THEM FUCKING PUBLISHING THE GAME.

That alone tells you Nintendo is financially involved. The lack of Vita port when it was a guaranteed 500k more sales is even more telling.
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>>389105606
>look, another Thread made by sonybros cause they fear Worlds will flop
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>>389120147
Capcom has a long as fuck record of passing up free money. See: localizing XX when it's almost entirely done already.
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>>389119853
>Just that tells you Nintendo was sending them millions.
so are you implied that out of Nowhere Capcom grew a heat/ balls and decided to go multiplat all but the guy that paid em for 4 years??

riiiiiiight. and you faggots laugh when everyone brings up the rumor about Sony paying for no Switch ports
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>>389120245
I thought that was Sony's moneyhatting?
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>>389120147
Oh, I see, you're just retarded.
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>>389120215
XX already flopped, toddler, so let's talk about that.
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>>389120245
Capcom has a long as fuck record of being retarded
>Capcom says Worlds is HD on 2 consoles + PC, designed and marketed to the West cause they want expand the userbase
>Analyst says Capcom Projected sales are 1.5M for World.

>LOOK GUYS, WE AT CAPCOM ARE GOING FOR A WIDER USERBASE SO WE CAN SELL 1/3 OF WHAT WE SOLD IN 3DS. SMART!!!
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>>389120365
XX was already released on two consoles. As if Sony was even interested in it going to other regions. Need I remind you that Worlds is not an exclusive by any means.
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>>389120434
>XX already flopped, toddler, so let's talk about that.
>2M
>i-it flop!!! ,Nintodlers BTFO!!!. Glorious Monster Hunter Finally Back at Sony!!, Doent matter most PS4 user dont give a fuck for anything other than Dudebro games!!! Anything is good as long as Nintendosuckers dont get a game!!! MWHAHAA
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>>389120572
You sound really mad that Switch got cucked big time this gen. Now relive the pain of Vita owners. It's poetic karma.
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>>389120572
That's one mad toddler, lmao.
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>>389120453
Yep
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>>389120680
why would I?? I got XX on Switch on Worlds on PC
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>>389119112
Nintendo paid Capcom for exclusivity before the trophy/adhoc party thing even allegedly happened. Nintendo published Tri and 3U in Europe and Australia, and had a hand in distribution and marketing for Tri, 3U, 4U, and Gen in various regions the west. Notice how Monster Hunter got five Nintendo Directs at a time when no other third party IP could even get one. They didn't just do that out of the kindness of their hearts.

Drones have always and will always ignore this because it doesn't jibe with the narrative that Capcom only went running to Nintendo after Sony harassed them.
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>ANOTHER sonyfag thread trying to shit on nintendo

>they get Bloodborne as an exclusive, over 2 years of shitposting NEVER EVER and counting

>MH finally goes multiplat, and we're STILL getting LOLNINTENDO threads

is there a more bitter, more rabid fanbase than this?
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>>389120572
1.7 million, not 2 million. The target was 2 million, they failed to reach it.
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>>389120748
>more rabid fanbase than this?
I would say Sonic but they are tamed down till Force release
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>>389105606
and it would have sold 10x more in America those idiots
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>>389120680
>>389120703
>Get btfo
>Start spewing out non arguments and insults
Like pottery.

Friendly reminder that anti-Nintendo fags are the ones ruining MH threads
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>>389120771
>1.7 million
3 months ago

>Target for XX is 2M
>Target for Worlds is 1.5M
So Capcom does not even have faint on Worlds
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>>389120727
>I got XX on Switch
Enjoy your no localization and upressed 3DS graphics lol
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>>389120739
This. The lies of Nintendo manchildren are obnoxious. Nintendo paid big bucks to keep MH off Vita so a PSP would not be repeated. Sony returned the favor this gen.
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>>389120813
>>389120748
SEETHING
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>>389120881
NIS just confirmed that going forward they'll be doing multiplat releases for Switch and PS4 in 2018.
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>>389111056
>, which explains why MHXX fucking bombed so hard on Switch.

Or maybe Japs didn't want to buy XX AGAIN
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>>389107195
I hope Deviants never comeback, at least the quest implementation of them. They're fine as actual monsters to be fought normally but tickets are THE GAYEST shit.
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>>389120813
>anti-Nintendo fags
Anyone who doesn't suck 240p cocks would be anti-Nintendo by now. Nintendo ruined MH by keeping it off better platforms.
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Probably 99% of Switch owners in Japan also own a 3DS, and would have bought MHXX there if they were interested. Also, it's a port of an expansion of a game that already got a mixed reception.

This console wars shit is going to look really stupid when the second MH team announces their game next year.
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>>389112776
I didn't buy a Switch solely because MHWorld was announced on PC. People like us exist.
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>>389120825
Now it's still 1.7
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html
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>>389120831
>lol graphics are everything
>here's a comparison of PS4 vs PC
>RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE DELET

>>389120881
only a fool would say something along those lines, specially after so many gens of shit 3rd party support on Nintendo consoles
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>>389120976
So, a couple of weebshit games ported from PS4? Damn.
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>>389121091
>Now it's still 1.7
>September
>Link
>(as of June 30, 2017)

so are you trapped in the same Time Chamber as VGChartz anon?
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>>389121157
Yes June 30th was the end of Q1 FY 2017/18. MHXX launched in Q4 FY 2016/17 when they had the target of 2 million.
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>>389105976
Don't worry, you still have World on the way. Not unless ur a fucking faggot, and based on ur jigglypuff picutre, I'm assuming you are.
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>>389121157
Somepeople don,t understand that videogame sales are often unknown until a quarterly release. That guy you replied to was an example. Another name for these is '' a retard''
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>>389121242
so you have no counter argument that is now at 2M. good to know
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>>389120739
Sometimes Nintendo takes interest in games to push their systems. Look at DQIX and how they published it in the West (complete with marketing) because SE wouldn't. If Nintendo was going to go all in with Tri, why did they not publish it in the two largest markets? There probably was a deal struck between Capcom and Nintendo, but to think Nintendo forked over enough money to Capcom to keep the series exclusive (when it wasn't right after Tri with P3rd) is a laugh.
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>>389121283
>Somepeople don,t understand that videogame sales are often unknown until a quarterly release
>Japan Media Create and Famitsu track en weekly an publicly release em
Anon.. go be "a retard" somewhere else please
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>>389105606
MH has been doing worse
Seems nips are getting tired of yearly releases, and rightfully so
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>>389121287
Okay buddy I give up. Now it's your turn. Prove that MHXX sales on 3DS jumped 300k in the span of last month.
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>>389118761

I have been enjoying the demo.

The game seems like a more story-driven spin off, hence the title.

The gameplay is pretty far from Monster Hunter standard going turn based RPG. But this demo adds a layer of customization and gathering that you don't really get from the mainline demos.

If you're curious, look up some gameplay or try the demo yourself.
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>Nintendofags mocked Vita owners for years for not getting MH
>MH World happens
I mean even you deluded fags have to admit this is karma at its best.
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>>389121368
Whoops, meant last 2 months.
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>>389121365
XX was already a re-release and Capcom is putting all efforts and marketing into Worlds while hindering XX (ergo why they decided that the other Mon Hun in 3DS was a better candidate for localization_
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>>389121368
go to different MC thread for weekaly top 50, and do the math
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Yiff in hell, Nintendo. Your shitty last-gen hardware can fuck off.
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>>389121437
MHW isn't an exclusive nor it is on the Vita. How is it karma, exactly? If anything, the West has been most salty about the games being stuck on portables instead of getting proper console releases. Even the 3U release on the Switch was botched as fuck
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It really feels like capcom is purpsefully trying to sabatoge the switch, i wish they would stop bullshitting us and just come out and say "we hate the switch and won't bring our games to it" since that's the message they've been giving lately
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>MH3tri: 2009 (Japan)
>MHXX: 2017 (Japan)
Say it with me bros: EIGHT YEARS OF STAGNATION
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>>389121497
No you do it for me. I already gave up. Now the burden of proof is on you. Capcom's own numbers have shown that the sales are stagnant at 1.7 million for 3 months since launch. Now you prove that after that it rose another 300k.
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>>389121532
nigger nigger, sony shitter
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>>389121437
>Switch has XX as well as an already huge and ever growing user base, could receive a later, revised version of world later just like P3rd
>Vita has...
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>>389121437
>>Nintendofags mocked Vita owners for years for not getting MH
what? the only thing remotely close to that was EVERY FUCKING THREAD >tfw no MH4/Gens on Vita guy would show up, people would laugh because he's in every fucking MH thread, and discussion would proceed as usual

also, the Vita had P3rd, didn't it?

also, MHW isn't on the Vita

also, MHW is on PC, PS4 and Xbone, pratically nobody has none of these 3
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>>389121609
Where, little nigger ? You showed that 1.7 million at end of june. Nothing else.

Is this it, are sony negroes as retarded as actual negroes? I thought it was a jape, but now i'm not sure anymore.
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>>389121672
Not that guy, but P3rd on Vita was not an enhanced release, it was purely due to backwards compatibility.
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>>389121606
>Say it with me bros: EIGHT YEARS OF STAGNATION
>the best 8 years of financial Success of Mon Hun
you are cute
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>>389121532
>a fucking 750ti beats the PS4
>a fucking 750ti
>but only Nintendo is the problem!
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>>389121606
>EIGHT YEARS OF STAGNATION
>Tri and X/XX get criticized for experimenting with new things
?
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>>389121736
It was 1.7 million at the end of March too
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>>389121821
do post the number then, since you have them. Its so easy to prove me wrong , why aren,t you doing it?
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>>389121757
A 750Ti beats the PS4.

Guess how many times over the PS4 beats the Switch?

Don't play this game when Switch is the bottom player here. Switch hardware is so laughable most devs aren't even bothering doing ports even. The only third-party games you're getting are the ones Nintendo are moneyhatting.
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>>389121736
Just put him in his place and post a sourced fact, you retard. You're just making yourself look bad at this point because you haven't refuted his proof with anything better.

>>389121606
>ignoring P3rd and MHO
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>XX, a franken game made on the budget is expected to sell 2M or is a flop
>Worlds, compared by some medias and Normies to Souls games (muh monsters/ muh difficulty) is 4 Years HD development, licenses, Royalties etc
Souls being the "massive success" only sits out 3M copies, there is no way MH will outsell Souls, so >3M copies of World will be a financial world, and we know what capcom does with IPs that fail when they try to "make it for the broader audience"
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>>389121909
PS4 isn't designed to be portable.
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>>389121909
PS4 is not a handheld anon
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>Hmm, guys, should we make one game for PS4-PC-Xbone or just make a Switch game with an install base of 5 million people, 4 million of them who only bought it for squid lolis?
>Let's put it on Switch!

This is how Nintendofags actually believe devs reason.
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>>389121985
But he has the numbers, tard-kun

He said so himself. So... where are they ? Why doesn,t he shut me right up with the number he claims to have from capcom itself.

... Could it be... that he's... lying on the internet?!?!

NANI?!!
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>>389121909
I JUST mocked you for trying to shit only on Nintendo (when all consoles are weak, that's been their nature since 2007), and you make another post complaining that Nintendo's console is weaker than the PS4
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>>389105606
English UI patch exist for MHXX on 3ds
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>>389121985
>MHO
please let's not go there
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>>389122134
How,s life in tard land, anon? Did they elect you king yet?
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>>389121909
>The only third-party games you're getting are the ones Nintendo are moneyhatting.
Nintendo doesn't throw around as much money as you think they do. They are notoriously stingy. They have all these devs because the devs are making money. On top of that, more devs are getting curious by the day.
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>>389122007
>>389122121
Switch is the worst handheld ever made, with a battery life of 3 hours and a bulky as fuck design you need a bag for to carry around. And a price of $350 for a handheld? Nope.

As a console, it fails completely to keep up with consoles released 4 years ago.

Switch isn't a handheld until it gets a revision that is actually meant to be portable and affordable.
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>>389122146
Negro he sourced the most up to date numbers he has. You haven't done shit despite making claims that it sold more. This is the whole SJW argument style where when someone puts up evidence you just try to discredit their source while providing zero actual counter evidence.
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>>389121909
>The vita vesion runs better than the switch
Wew, totally not the devs incompetency lmao
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>>389122270
>Switch is the worst handheld ever made
aww, you could not even finish the 1st sentence without tears.
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>>389122267
>Nintendo doesn't throw around as much money as you think they do.
Yes I'm sure no money changed hands at all when Nintendo decided to lock all their games off Vita and stick more or less entirely to the 3DS.

Stop with this Nintendo propaganda.
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>>389122270
Hi Neogaf !

I loved your switch prediction threads, made me laugh a lot
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>>389122134

I bet Respawn wish they did now.
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>>389122231
>being this mad that Switch is just a repeat of Wii U
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>>389119082
Brave is counter-attacking and blocking monsters via sheathing

Alchemy is buffing from a special infinite use item in your inventory, has a CD and special casts.
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>>389122270

>Switch is the worst handheld ever made, with a battery life of 3 hours and a bulky as fuck design you need a bag for to carry around. And a price of $350 for a handheld? Nope.

I could literally pick apart the misconceptions you are trying to spread with your post, but I'll simply say that you simply must not have a Switch, and it's nowhere near as bulky as you think it is.

I can carry mine in my pocket, JoyCons and all.
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>>389122371
Nope. They would need to spend millions just to get their game to run on Switch's weak as fuck hardware with a userbase that more or less entirely buys Nintendo's kiddy shit. Western third-parties will never bother with Nintendo anymore. It's done. Unless you want to make Rabbid games that is.
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>>389122320
But he also has march, and he can prove me they didn,t sell shit from march to june.

Yet, i remain firmly unsourced on that one

C'mon, negro, Come to his help, find those capcom MHXX sales from march, and prove to me they sold none in those 3 months. Again, it's not hard, unless it was all somehow a Lie. What a shame.
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>>389122341
Did they make the same deal with SE and Dragon Quest for all of those years that the DS and 3DS got love and Sony didn't get shit? The vita was a poor investment choice for a dev compared to the 3DS. All you're doing is posturing.
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>>389120981
There's also the whole
>no localization

I refuse to go through all the work to get a game in moonrunes to get my MH fix, when I can just keep playing 4U and Gen
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>>389122473
They absolutely did. Nintendo published those games in the west. SE even said Nintendo paid for the localization.
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>>389122410

Should make you emperor, truly the greatest tard in tard kingdom. Basically their Augustus
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>Thread turns into pro Sony/anti-Nintendo
Shocker.
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>>389122526
Paying for localization is NOT the same thing has claiming they made an exclusivity deal for producing games in the first place. SE wasn't going to bring them to the West period, but they didn't produce the games in the first place because of Nintendo.
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>>389122590
Paying for localization tells you more than enough that contracts were in place that required Nintendo money.

The truth is in your face. Don't deny it. Nintendo aren't saints. They bribe and pay off devs just like everyone else is. But now no dev wants that because making a Switch-exclusive third-party game is suicide.
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>communicating with randoms won't require me to type on a tiny ass 240p touch screen keyboard with a 20 character limit per message
on a side not, i'm glad XX flopped. Capcom ports are among the shittest. There is no excuse for a port of a handheld game with minimal visual improvements running at 30 fps
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>>389105606
I only own one physical cart for my Switch (Zelda: GOATAT) Partly because I don't want to fucking lose carts, partly because fuck supporting Gamestop. My 200gb SD card isn't anywhere near full at this point, not sure if I care about ever buying another physical game for the system.
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>>389122270
>Switch is the worst handheld ever made, with a battery life of 3 hours and a bulky as fuck design you need a bag for to carry around. And a price of $350 for a handheld? Nope.
It's also the best handheld ever made, because it's considerably more powerful than the handhelds that came before and with better than ever local multiplayer functionalities.
>As a console, it fails completely to keep up with consoles released 4 years ago.
But it's also portable, which doesn't conveniently go away the moment you stop ignoring it, and as a result it will also get all of the games you would have missed if there had been a separate handheld.

It's almost as if you tried to look at each "side" of the console while wearing blinders, without considering it as a whole.
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>>389120572
Are you including both versions of the game in your 2M? The Switch version as well?
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>>389121908
Sorry man I was eating.
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>>389122467

They are spent millions to make a game that was forgotten and failed to reach expectations. Might as well spend a few more to get it on a platform with no competition. Might keep the studio alive.
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>>389122781
OUCH
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>>389122781
now the june numbers, please. Go, you are halfway there.
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>>389122868
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html

1.7 million. Like I already posted.
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>>389122868
He already did earlier in the thread. Capcom's own website which lists the date.
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>>389122809
The Nintendofag delusions are real. They sold millions on PS4-PC-Xbone. At best they'll sell 100k on Splatoon console with an investment far exceeding that meager sum.

Guess what, Switch is dead when it comes to third-parties. There will be no Red Dead 2. No FFXV. No Nier Automata. No nothing. Just Nintendo's same old garbage as we played in 2004.
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>>389122705
>on a side not, i'm glad XX flopped.
I don't care about the sales, but I wish we got XX Switch on the west so I could have high-res portable MH
>30fps
jesus christ Capcom, come the fuck on
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>>389122809
Titanfall 2 playerbase is growing, actually.
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>>389122941
>http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html
>1.7 million. Like I already posted.
>In the home video game market, sales of more than one million units is the generally accepted standard for a major hit.

so XX was a hit?
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>>389123134
Don't hurt your legs backpedaling
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>>389123134
>my goalposts are moving on their own!
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>>389123134
As much as a hit as me scoring a penalty shot without a goalie to your moving goalpost.
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>>389123208
>As much as a hit as me scoring a penalty shot without a goalie to your moving goalpost.
so a cheap hit, but a still a hit?
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Holy shit, toddlers are getting slaughtered in this thread. Somebody, call the mods!
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>>389123240
Not to a goalpost moving as fast as yours.
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>>389123004
>They sold millions on PS4-PC-Xbone
But not enough. They made that clear.

>Guess what, Switch is dead when it comes to third-parties.
Except for its growing list of third party games right. SE is already their best reporter and they already said they are looking into porting XV. Main issue is the shitty engine while their UE4 shit runs. Meaning all their UE4 games are a possibility.
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>>389123272

Sadly, being sony niggers is not a banable offense
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>>389123272
>Holy shit, toddlers are getting slaughtered in this thread. Somebody, call the mods!
boy WORLD sales threads will be a circus
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>>389123405
>being sony niggers is not a banable offense
yet
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>>389123045

The population is nowhere near what it was earlier in the year. And that's with the discounts and sales.
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>>389123390
The Nintendo shill propaganda is real.

Switch is absolutely a joke amidst third-party devs. Even Japan is turning on it in favor of traditional platforms that are more reliable and powerful.
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Now that we all agree that XX flopped and World brings MH back to real console where it belongs, how much do you expect Worlds to sell??
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>>389123614
ph jesus, no hearthstone?

FUCK

and no PES?!?!!?!?!?

GET

ME

OUT
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>>389123729
>w-we don't need games we got kiddy paintball shooter and Mario Kart #92373 ported from Wii U
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>>389123729
>Switch is going to get the third party!
>w-what, no third party? d-don't even c-care!
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>>389123794
you know that both of those are more profitable and well rated than 90% of whats been released this year, right?
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>>389123690

>we all agree
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>>389123894
Of course they are profitable when they are rehashed games from last gen and the only games you can buy on Switch.
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>>389123794
You talking from experience anon?

Because i'd bet you my left nut that Sony would kill toget success like these.

>>389123831
What about non shit third party games?
It's quite clear that heartstone and PES would be unprofitable on Switch, since the nigger % on switch is so much lower.
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>>389123991
>r-rehash
>n-nogames

It's amazing how buttblasted the switch makes the sonybros. And Oddyssey and pokemon are not out yet.

I'm eagerly awaiting the livestreamed suicides.
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>>389124115
I'll be sure to watch yours as I'm playing MH World and Red Dead 2.
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>>389115651
They expected LP2 to pull 3 million copies? Capcom is fucking delusional.
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>>389124049
Switch has the manchild percentage locked in, as evident by the fact that so many bought into a casual kiddy paintball shooter featuring squid lolis.
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>>389107073
>snow narga
que?
>>
I'M STILL WAITING FOR DEM 2 MILLION SALES FIGURES
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Its hilarious how people think any of the switch's momentum will last.

The switch has fuck all going for it outside of ports and a few exclusives nobody cares about, seriously, No more heroes? Fucking lmao, niche series nobody gives a shit about that doesn't move systems at all, once Nintendo blows their wad the Switch will wind up exactly like the Wii U, it has 0 third party support overall, even fucking normie shit like Call of Duty is staying clear of it.

>b-but we don't need it

Yea you do, no console can thrive purely on 1st party stuff, you supplement your 1st party shit with 3rd party output, its been like this since the fucking Atari.

Nintendo is fucked.
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>>389124185

Won't happen, mongoloid.

Make sure to shitpost long and hard when oddyssey is out, sony negro tears provide the best salt.
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>>389124326
It's already being outsold by PS4 in the west. In Europe it's a no-show and in America PS4 has been outselling it several months now despite being so old.
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>>389115651
Wii wasn't anywhere as good or popular as PS4.
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>>389105606
people don't want to buy ports of 3ds games, go figure
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>>389124386

Yeah sure. You are delusional.
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>>389123614
>Switch is absolutely a joke amidst third-party devs.
And Switch is still getting games from these non-existant devs. Even Microsoft said they want more crossplay games.

>Even Japan is turning on it in favor of traditional platforms that are more reliable and powerful.
Japan has started to announce a bunch of PS4/Switch games like DQ Builder 2 and Atelier.
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>>389124326
hi there neogaf

How many years do you think you can run that it's actually fucked retardation ? I'd say next year is probably the latest you can push your garbage
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>>389124326
I picked my switch up from a buddy at an absolute steal, so I'm perfectly content with a low amount of games. As long as the ones I do end up getting are good and what I'm interested in, I could care less if the switch gets shafted for 3rd party content.

I already buy the DS/3DS for pretty much only Pokemon, MH, and FE, so I'm pretty confident the Switch will be alright.
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>>389124398
>It's already being outsold by PS4 in the west. In Europe it's a no-show and in America PS4 has been outselling it several months now despite being so old.
you mean those months of March, April and June that lost to Switch, wow!!
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>>389118697
In some ways it's actually the definitive version of monster hunter. Try playing SnS or LBG in any other game after playing them in Gen or XX. It's really goddamn difficult.
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>>389124464
oh it will, negroid.

end of october will be a massacre.
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>>389124475
Oh shit, Atelier is now getting an inferior port to Switch?

Someone call Wall Street. Shit is getting lit here.
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>>389124623

Pathetic.
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>>389111056
i would have glady bought both of them

world doesnt even come out until next year anyway
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>>389124640
Already got more games than PS4.

Poor sony ponies, they never had a chance.
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>>389124619
SnS is definitely a step forward in Gen, the oils were a really good addition to the game. I wish more weapons had unique mechanics attributed to them like this, and the IG's Kinsect.
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>>389118986
More like Capcom want to keep the Portable series going and are trying to avoid saturating the market with all MH games on one system.
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>>389124252
LP1 sold pretty well for a new IP, I can see how LP2 could be expected to top it. They were nowhere near the mark on Dark Void though, that game bombed so fucking hard
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>>389124703
Why do you think people will respond honestly to blatant Nintendo mental illness of delusions? Any other platform gets more games in a month than Nintendo gets in a whole year.
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I wish MH threads would go back to "Muh weapon > Your weapon" shitposting over console warrior shitposting.
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>>389124640
Same game with more options. Superior.

>Rhetoric gets blown up, better shitpost.
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>>389124772
>be sony nigger
>be retarded

story checks out, have your complimentary walkign simulator en route to no game release this fall.

Seriously tho, why are you so mad? Did your two neuron clash and inject you the basic knowledge that you are losing hard?
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>>389124761
Oh yeah. I saw the title but it didn't even register as a game. Neat concept though, don't know if the game was good or not.
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what would be the reaction if Worlds fails to outsell 4/U??
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who's the best monster and why is Zinogre?
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>>389124796
Not for a few years. Sony niggers will shitpost for dear life with it until a MH is announced on switch. It's one of their few last shitposts since they lost hardware sales, software sales, future games and highly rated/GOTY games
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>>389124741
How can the Portable series continue not on PlayStation "Portable"? And how does Capcom avoid saturation by putting all the games on 3DS year after year after year?
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>>389120680
Vita's biggest failing was the lack of first party support, yet this is probably the Switch's strongest point.
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>>389124960
stylish monster and fun to fight once you get the hang. Stygian can eat a dick tho.
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>>389124960
Stygian, Thunderlord, or Normal?
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>>389124950
>game on PS4/Xbone/PC
>not outselling 3DS exclusive

not only it'd be nearly impossible just because of this alone, but it's also "big name first reaching the mainstream audience", kinda like Castlevania Lords of Shadow, there's just no way it's not going to sell more than 4U
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>>389105606
>MH is dead on Nintendo.
We already knew that.

The game's fucking name is Double Cross. Jesus Christ, this isn't even reading between the lines. It's blatantly painted on the walls and ceiling
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>>389124998
It all started at losing Monster Hunter.

PSP came to be almost entirely due to Monster Hunter in Japan and GTA in the west.

Switch finds itself in a disadvantageous position losing 3DS's biggest game like that.
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>>389125046
>"big name first reaching the mainstream audience"
what do you think Frontier was??
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>>389125043
normal
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>>389124998

And memory cards.

>64GB card is still 100+
>20 bucks everywhere else.
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>>389121037
Monster Hunter is already a niche game. Even in that niche, people like you are few and far between.
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>>389125046
>there's just no way it's not going to sell more than 4U
>people already comparing it to Souls games
you know how much did 4/U sell??

worlds would need to become the new Soul/ meme / Its hard so its good, to sell 5M copies
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I think it's because nobody in MH's core audience actually owns a switch
I've been playing since PS2 MonHun and I know I fucking don't
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>>389125046

It's a handheld series without the support of its strongest market.
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>>389125134
A Vita with a 64GB card was cheaper than a Switch without memory card.
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>>389125090
MH was pretty big, but still eclipsed by a handful of first party titles. All of the Pokemon games, and Mario Kart 7, and Animal Crossing mainly. 4, 4U, and Gen were just below the top 10 though.
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>>389106286
>BUT XX IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE LAST TRUE MONHUN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Yea pisses me off xx came to soon.
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>>389125243
let's hope Worlds turns the tables for the franchise
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>>389124950
>>
>people unironically believe that a new MH won't be on the fucking Switch after World

How retarded do you even have to be? The thing is selling 2x faster than PS4 in Japan. It will 100% get a version of World of even its own traditional style game.

They're not going to just leave the handheld market
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>>389125090
Except the Switch has more heavy hitters released or announced already than Vita had in it's lifetime. Monster Hunter is a flash in the pan compared to the likes of Pokemon and Mario.
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>>389125293
>let's hope Worlds turns the tables for the franchise
>game cant even reach Page 1 im amazon pre-orders when shown at events
>its not even up for pre-orders in Japan
yeah.. about that
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>>389125194
Literally not true.
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>>389125371
Game doesn't even have a release date
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>>389125186
Japan will buy it regardless of it being portable

>>389125145
>5M
jesus christ what the fuck, are you talking only about 4 Ultimate? then again, it's probably 2.5m Japan, 2.5m rest of the world, and MHW will probably break 2.5m in Japan

>>389125091
the name Monster Hunter wasn't as famous back then as it is now
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>>389125348
>The thing is selling 2x faster than PS4 in Japan
That's because PS4 is selling terribly. Selling 2x faster than shit is still shit. If you compare LTD figures with 3DS, Switch and 3DS are neck and neck, and guess what? 3DS got a huge price slash around this time because of how poorly it was doing.

And it's not really the Switch's fault, as it's not the PS4's either. Gaming is just dead in Japan. The entire country has migrated to mobile gaming and they aren't coming back. Dedicated video game devices are seen as a relic of the past

The only Japanese developers that will survive are the ones that either a) have western appeal, or b) move to mobile. It's why Capcom is doing a huge push with MHW to try to get the series out of Japanese niche hell.

Your knee-jerk reaction will probably be to call me a shitposter but everything I've just said is true
>>
>Bought a Vita
>Bought a Switch
>Been wanting to play MH since 3U but 3DS died.

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP SENPAI.
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>>389125525
I don't get why people always say that handhelds are dead
3DS did just fine in a post-smartphone world, even after a rocky start. Capcom is obviously trying to get more of a western audience for MH but I doubt it has anything to do with mobile gaming.
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>>389125467
>the name Monster Hunter wasn't as famous back then as it is now
the name Monster Hunter is not famous now anon

>>389125429
>Game doesn't even have a release date
Prime 4 was a .jpge image and it reached 1st pace on during E3, During E3 MHW only reached like place 51

Amazon sales charts are not an indication for total sales ,but they are easy to measure hype. at least in the west Worlds have not shake people interest on any worthy level
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>>389125525
>PS4 is selling terribly despite DQ and MHW
>people are actively shirking XX for World in Japan but nobody is buying a PS4
Man, Sony really fucked up didn't they?
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>>389122467
>Monster Hunter + Rabbids
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>>389105606
>nintenfags were so fucking smug
>said switch MH will murder World
>this happens
I know they are all backpedaling now and some of them are on suicide watch, but still, how can you even show your face around here after spouting bullshit like that?
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>>389125534
What's stopping you from getting XX right now?
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>>389125641
Consoles in general are dead in Japan. PS4 more than makes up for that in worldwide sales where it is completely killing it and has tremendous momentum still.
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>>389125429
Searched it just for fun on leaf amazon

>beaten by sea of thieves, mon hon stories
and even KNACK 2 BAYBEEEE

Ouch
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>>389125348
Fucking this. At it's current rate, Switch will outsell PS4 in Japan before the end of next year. Capcom, or any publisher for that matter, are not going to ignore that kind of growing install base. Especially not for a game so popular in Japan.
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>>389125683
Monster Hunter + Pokemon
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>>389125765
>switch MH will murder World
I knew it'd never have a chance at beating World out, but not localizing the game and making potential buyers jump through hoops just to get it still in moonrune /does not/ help its case
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>>389125790
And yet the Switch is outselling the PS4 in NA? First year sales are always the weakest, and this applies to both Sony and Nintendo.
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>>389125765
Absolutely nobody thought a 8 month old port would sell amazingly. They historically don't. These HD ports max out at like 600k sales
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>>389125194
It's also far less powerful, what's your point?
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>>389125838
At current speed same perio next year would do it. Could be much faster if stock issue is fully resolved.
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>>389125683
Why would anyone buy xx when not only is MHW coming out, it's been officially confirmed to be a mainline game and made by the main team.
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>>389125765
Nobody said the Switch version specifically would outsell world, just that World wouldn't sell as much as MHXX on 3DS and Switch. Honestly I'm more interested in the direct comparison between MH4U 3DS and World PS4 sales, since the install bases are roughly the same.
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>>389121672
>MHW isn't on the Vita
>what is remote play
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>>389125919
>Absolutely nobody thought a 8 month old port would sell amazingly
Except all the nintendodrones when it got announced. After all they see the Switch as a handheld or home console depending on whatever suit their arguments the best and in this case they have expected handheld MH sales and not homeconsole HD ports ones.

It's actually funny because the moment we got the news of MH selling poorly on switch all the nintendo faggots switched back to the argument that this MH is just like the HD ports for the home consoles in the past.
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>2014, after MH4G announcement
>next game will definitely be MH5, there cannot be another game in a gen after a G game!
>2015, after MHX announcement
>next game will definitely be MH5, there can only be 3 games in a gen; one main game, one G game and a spinoff!
>2016, after 2016 MH sales target reveal
>next game will definitely be MHXG, it's only going to sell 2 million! That's too low for MH5 on 3DS!
>2016, after Switch is revealed
>next game will definitely be MH5 on Switch! The 2 million sales target fits Nintendo's sales target!
>2016, after MHXX is revealed
>next game will definitely be MH5 on Switch! We always knew MHXX was coming! It's the most obvious thing ever!
>2017, after MHXX HD is revealed
>haha suck that, Switch will definitely have MH5 next! MHXX Switch is just to build installbase!
>2017, after MHW is revealed
>wtf I don't want MH5, I wanted MHXX! Portable 5th when?
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MHXX will never come to the west, and this is coming from someone who is waiting to buy a switch just for the game. Glad i have a PS4
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>>389125525
Japan has massive lines of people waiting to buy the Switch, most walking away empty-handed because there aren't enough to sell. It's selling as quickly as it possibly can be, and it's still keeping up with how much the 3DS was selling after the price drop.
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>>389126192
>ps4
>when world is coming to PC
Sony shills are pathetic
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>>389126223
So beg them to buy MHXX Switch ver.
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>>389125467
>Japan will buy it regardless of it being portable
Not when people don't own and have no intention of having a PS4 because its a console. Shit actually would be fine if there was a Vita version.
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>>389105606
I mean lets be honest. The only reason people played it on nintendo is because it was only on nintendo for the longest time, otside of what, two? offshoots on the PC, it hasn't been on anything other than nintendo since PS2 era. Now that its on two superior platforms the only reason anyone would play it on a nintendo is either if they were a poorfag or if they were a retard.
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>>389126262
>using blademaster with the mouse
ok
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>>389125194
Vita was $250 at launch, and 32GB cards were $120. $370 is more than the $300 launch price of the Switch, which includes 32GB of storage.
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>>389126460
You know you can use controllers on your PC right
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>>389126460
PC can use every controller.

Did you actually forgot that when you posted that shitpost?
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>>389126545
>>389126581
if i am going to use a controller might as well use it on my console and waste the space of memory on it than on my computer, you PCfags are entitled bitches
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>>389126327
or if they wanted it on a mobile console like the majority of the fanbase (japan)
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>>389126774
>argument against platform is not true
>actually the complete opposite with being the best option regarding that specific argument you used against it
>now spouts some incomprehensible shit why this doesn't satisfy him anyway
This is just /v/. Something retarded written in this style is just pure /v/. Not reddit, not neogaf, just classic old retarded /v/.
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more like they already have it for 3ds for comfy train ride homes from work and no one wants a fucking switch to begin with

Hows the fan translation of XX going? The dumb anime longsword stuff with a metric ton of i-frames looks fun
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>>389126774
I guess this is an offshoot of the "It just won't feel right on PC" ""argument"".
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>tfw full idort, bought MHXX on Switch and can't wait for MHW
fuck consolewars
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>>389126774
Just download DS4windows, nigga
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>>389127285
well I have a console to play it with, my PC can't have space for it because I give more priority for work related stuff. But is amazing how PCfags can find ways to play it with a controller so i give them that. As long as all we can play the same quest, i'll be glad for it. Hope capcom doesn't limit that
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>>389127356
>tfw full idort, pirated MHXX on 3DS 5 months ago with english patch and can't wait for MHW
fuck consolewars
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>Capcom clearly intended for MH to go Westward and focus on Western audiences
>Those same Western audiences who historically only make a fraction of the sales for this franchise which as literally always been reliant on Jap sales to survive
>Re-release a port of a spinoff on a home console/handheld
>IMMEDIATELY announce zero international support for that game
>Simultaneously announce that you are competing with your own game for PS4/XBone/PC, and announce immediate international focus
>Aggravate Nintenkids worldwide (outside of Japan) and force them into a frenzy knowing they won't get a game until they purchase a platform they don't own
>Spend boatloads of resources making all-new assets and showcase them at E3
>Rather than actually showing off real monster battling, show off hookshotting, wearing ghillie suits, and popping flare guns, looking literally nothing like a MH game
>MH Vets worldwide are upset and take to the internet in a frothing rage
>Capcom employees turning it into LE MAD NINTENDRONES XDDD rather than actually listening, turning many, many people off from buying the game altogether
>Release multiple backpedal trailers and gameplay events much later, showing that it is in fact a regular MH title
>Fans who were going to buy MHXX now realize that it's just a port and that MHW is coming soon anyways, and isn't just a shitty Western game with a MH skin like they were worried it would be
>Surprised that MHXX is currently selling like shit due to the wild backlash, limited userpool (even worse considering how few Switches are even available in Japan, and Japan alone)
>People are actively saying that MHW will be a "success" despite having already fractured the community inherently by trying to split it among three different platforms, but also lacking the Japanese fanbase outside of exclusively PS4, and Western fans needing to deal with a lack of Cross-plat play will also wind up shaky
>Every Capcom exec's face
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>>389127468
You could have just said you don't have a gaming PC, anon.
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>>389128374
People have forgotten how retarded Capcom is. This is isn't the first time they've sabotaged their own games. It's not even the worst example of it. Capcom being Capcom is nothing unusual,
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>MOST WANTED FAMITSU

1. [PS4] Final Fantasy VII Remake – 716 votes
2. [PS4] Monster Hunter World – 539 votes
3. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey – 538 votes
4. [PS4] Everybody’s Golf – 408 votes
5. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III – 400 votes
6. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon – 316 votes
7. [PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III – 297 votes
8. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles 2 – 288 votes
9. [PS4] City Shrouded in Shadow – 258 votes
10. [NSW] Fire Emblem Warriors – 249 votes
11. [PS4] Dynasty Warriors 9 – 232 votes
12. [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux – 230 votes
13. [PS4] Gran Turismo Sport – 206 votes
14. [3DS] Metroid: Samus Returns – 204 votes
15. [3DS] Fire Emblem Warriors – 202 votes
16. [PSV] Romancing SaGa 3 – 186 votes
17. [PS4] Ace Combat 7 – 172 votes
18. [PS4] Disaster Report 4 Plus: Summer Memories – 162 votes
19. [3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 – 154 votes
20. [PS4] Dragon Ball FighterZ – 135 votes
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>>389128692
True, they didn't give it to some other studio at least.
Just imagine a Ninja Theory Monster Hunter.
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>>389128707
1 vote difference between MHW and Mario Odyssey. Interesting, but the japs still love mario.
It's also worth noting that MHW is a PS4 exclusive in japan.
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>>389127690
I hope World doesn't have Denuvo.
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>>389127690
I pirated MHXX on 3DS too. Transferred my save to Switch desu.
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>>389128707
>fucking vaporware getting the most votes
Japs are dumb as shit, I swear to god
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How is anyone actually excited for MHW, every time Capcom panders to a western audience that IP dies. Enjoy Monster Hunter while you can I guess.
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>>389117447
what makes it not good?
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>>389106528
wow fucking pathetic
not even half the ps3 game
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God damn it, I wanted to play it., no wonder that there's no news for western release. What about the 3DS sales?
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>>389129645
Or maybe?! they know something we don't
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>>389129708
>panders to a western audience
lol, no. When the game structure evolve, you have to change things.
That's all. Western audience has nothing to do with this.
Go read some interviews Ncuck, you will maybe learn something about game developement.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/26/dont-worry-capcoms-not-dumbing-down-monster-hunter
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>>389129728
I wouldn't call it not good, but it's easily the weakest entry into the series as a whole.
The styles and arts didn't seem to be given the proper time to balance and test so you have some wildly skewed variations between how good a weapon is with a particular set up and how bad it can be otherwise. And since their whole concept was to add more ways to play a weapon, having one set be vastly better than any other goes against that.
The endgame as well was lacking with the deviant grind where you have multiple levels of unchanging monsters and Hypers with vastly bloated health.
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>>389128374
It's actually not dumb at all. How long has the 3DS to live? 1 year? Now is the time to test waters. There is no strong handheld successor everyone owns and japanese MH sales are less with each game. They don't much time to find a profitable branch and the one thing they don't want is a fiscal year without MH sales.
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>>389118671
World has been in development for just about 4 years. There was no switch when it started being developed nor can the switch handle World if it were to be ported over.

If it was a Sony deal it would have been exclusive, I think World is a case of the team wanting to do things for the new gen and not be confined by the limitations of portables and underpowered systems.
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>>389130073
>There is no strong handheld successor everyone owns
But that's wrong. Switch exists and 1.5 million own it already. Capcom were retards for not seeing the obvious happen.
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>>389125776
localization probably
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>>389128707
>>4. [PS4] Everybody’s Golf – 408 votes
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Who here is a long time player of the series that is excited for World?

>Graphically looks great
>Monsters actually interact with each other instead of "lol two monsters at once that ignore each other" bullshit
>ability to change items, armor, weapons on the fly to erase some of that unnecessary downtime of going to and from the hub(If you have played enough MonHun this is like 200 hours of real life time saved for you to enjoy putting a shitload of hours into monhun
>Drop In/Drop Out eliminating the online problems prior games still have to this day

What are people complaining about? Cross was a fucking mess. The styles were interesting and over-powered while the monsters were unchanged so you were an unbeatable god unless you're retarded. Prowler needs to be revamped but it's a great mode that I hope makes it into World.

The only two things I'm worried about are how many monsters will be in the game and if we won't be getting returning monster themes from previous games.
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>>389132016
>Prowler needs to be revamped but it's a great mode that I hope makes it into World.
No Prowler in World, that much has been confirmed. I personally don't care, never cared for it and won't miss it. If they removed an actual weapon, even if it was a weapon I never use, I would be up in arms about it, but Prowler?
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>>389132271

Maybe it is for the better. Now that you say it that way, Cross kind of feels like an experiment more than anything. World has probably been in development for a lot longer than it lets on.
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>>389105606

>shitty port with ds graphics doesn't sell on an HD handheld

wooooooooooooooooooooooooow
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>>389105606

the japs bought it on DS already you mongoloid
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>>389106147
Nah its because they already bought the game in 3ds months ago.
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>>389132737
That didn't stop P3RD HD from doing absolutely phenomenal when it launched after the psp launch
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>>389132856

psp has long been dead retard, 3ds is still much alive
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>>389119112
The PS3 being complete ass to work with maybe?
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>>389132885
You have no clue what point I was trying to make and you decided to comment anyways.
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>>389110829
For a game like Monster Hunter, people don't know when the fuck the next entry is coming so they might as well buy the next entry in the series no matter what it is, it's how MH gets away with constant double dipping.

Now that we KNOW MHW is coming out on established platforms there's no reason to invest in a switch.

We can just play what's out now and latch onto whatever MHW new comes out next.
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>>389132856
>doing absolutely phenomenal
It sold like shit compared to the PSP's MILLIONS.
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>>389133165
Sold far better than XX
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>>389132856
>That didn't stop P3RD HD from doing absolutely phenomenal
What universe are you living in exactly?
Because it flopped, hard.
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>>389128707
>[PS4] Dynasty Warriors 9 – 232 votes
But why. It's shaping up to be fucking atrocious.
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>>389133180
Well, obviously. It was sold on a console that was already five years old as opposed to five months.
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>>389133078
2006-05-09: Announced development of PS3 "Monster Hunter 3" at "Capcom Official Press Release"
2007-09-20: Announced Monster Hunter Portable 2ndG at Tokyo Gameshow 2007
2007-10-10: Announced Monster Hunter 3 for Wii, PS3 version cancelled at "Nintendo conference 2007 Autumn"
2008-03-27: Monster Hunter Portable 2ndG released, to massive success
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>>389133215
>flopped hard
Flopped so hard that it was #1 on the charts for two months.
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>>389133298
It's almost as if you're implying that there were more PS3s in circulation than there were switches
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>>389133306
That was the beginning of this cycle, Monster hunter as a series essentially took off around that time.

No one gave a shit about the original freedom, for example. Fatigue exist.
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>>389133467
No it took off with P2nd. P2ndG and P2nd sold almost the same at launch.
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>>389133334
Anon, two months at number one is grounds to sell 1m or at least near it.
It didn't even make half that.
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>>389133637
And that's nice and all, but it still sold far more than xx. A feat that, I should remind you, is all the more remarkable due to the fact that there are more switch users than there were PS3 users.
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>>389133362
It's almost as if you're implying that there weren't. Unless you really think that that PS3 was so much of a flop that it couldn't manage 1.5 million sales after FIVE years. Which is false, by the way.
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>>389133541
I said around that time.

That would imply I'm talking about, p2 through p2g, going into tri
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>>389133762
By that logic everyone should have bought MH3. Instead we see people keep on buying P2G well into after the release of MH3.
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>>389133686
There were about 7 million PS3 owners in Japan when Portable 3rd HD came out. There are currently about 1.5 million Switch owners in Japan.
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>>389133975
How many 3DS owners are there when MHXX came out?
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>>389132016
>Graphically looks great
They look better than normal but not great.
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>>389134090
About 22 million.
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>>389133686
>And that's nice and all, but it still sold far more than xx.
That's because one, XX has just come out on the Switch
Two, there's far less Switches in circulation compared to the PS3 at the moment
And three, the 3ds game had come out a few months earlier in March.
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>>389133918
No, that just implies that the success of the series carried over into tri.
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When are they going to release XX for 3ds in the west?
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What will Capcom do if MHW fails though?
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>>389134203
Well in a sense yeah, it wouldn't have sold 500k at launch without prior standing of the franchise despite the different hardware. They also had a MHG re-release just in case, which I also foresee PS4 getting MH4G/MHXX bundle HD ports announced at TGS.
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>>389134351
Fold.
They're fine though, MHW is safe from failure.
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>>389134351
Try to recoup their losses with a portable version but fail when they realise that the majority of the problem was the shit game itself.
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>>389134351
Continue until it doesn't fail. They did the same on the 3DS. MH3G failing didn't stop them.
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>>389132801
And it sold terribly for 3DS as well.
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>>389134351
it won't.
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>>389134643
Exceeding 1m for a revision isn't a failure in the slightest.
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>>389134351

Emergency portable game.
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>>389134706
>most viewed MH video
>barely a peep in social media about it
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>>389134797
bots don't have fb accounts
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>>389134725
The Generations series has sold worse than the last two gens.

MHX did poorly, and XX did so bad in Japan, they skipped out on localizing it.

XX did really bad compared to what was expected, and the Switch version did abysmally. If you want a reason as to why Switch will likely never get any more MH games, there's why.

World is guaranteed to sell better than the X/XX series.
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>>389134706
>posting viewbotted videos
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>>389134797
Plenty of talk about in Social media anon. Even MaxDood who only talks fightan games made a video about playing it in 4k and saying it was awesome.

Most of the talk has been salty drones throwing up a fit though.

It's getting way more press than other MHs have ever gotten, just cause you shut your ears and pretend it doesn't exist, doesn't mean people aren't hyped.
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>>389134994
Take off your tinfoil hat anon.
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>>389135071
lol
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>wow, MH didn't sell much on the switch.
>OOMHMHMMHGGGGG FUCKING SALTY SONY NIGGERS WOOOW STOP SHITTING UP THE THREAD111"!!!!!
Umh, okay.
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>>389134951
>The Generations series has sold worse than the last two gens.
Yeah and?
Are you determining failure solely based on comparisons instead of factors such as profit?
Using that line of reasoning the PS4 can be deemed a failure because it hasn't sold as much as the previous system.

With that said, it's also a fact that it didn't meet their expectations but those expectations are not related to the profit of the game.

Basically you're a moron.
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>>389135205
Indeed.

Nothing has been more sweet than your salty bitter tears. I can't wait for World to come out, get great reviews across the board, and sell better than any other MH ever. And NEVER come to Switch.

What will you do then?
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>>389135071
>Plenty of talk about in Social media anon
Not him but there isn't. Several quick searches can tell you that even reports on the game get very little replies and people aren't talking about the game on their own. To top it off a lot of the response from the fanbase is negative.
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>>389105606
Good. Fucking Capcom doesn't deserves money for the scummy shit they're pulling for this.
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>>389105606
Suck shit. Should have brought it to the west.
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>>389135398
wake you up from your delusion
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>>389134797
70% of people who played at Gamescom are newcomers.
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>>389135125
Maybe after you take your head out of your ass. You can go on archive.org yourself and see how the video was getting shit views for days, then suddenly getting millions of views a week after it debuted. Then views inexplicably flat line again out of nowhere.
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>>389105754
And how exactly is a rerelase of a spinoff game that came out months before on the console with an install base of over 6x what the Switch has supposed to sell on MUH IMPROVED GRAPHICS alone?

You seem to mistake Nintendo kids for PCbros.
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>>389135753
>70% of people who played at Gamescom are newcomers.
Yes and? If 70% were newcomers and they aren't talking about it that isn't a good sign at all.
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>>389135753
>game made to broaden the userbase
>newcomers don't care for it
hmmm
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>>389135827
How is it compared to pre-MHW time?
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>>389135891
Just like Tri.
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>>389135986
Source on this? Was Tri meant for newcomers?
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>>389135986
Did you play the same Tri as the rest of the world?
Because it certainly wasn't designed for newcomers.
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It's probably because the X / Generations games aren't very good compared to the mainline titles. Also because it has the ugly, low poly look of the 3DS version even after being upscaled.
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>>389136053
What was Tri meant for? What was World meant for? Source for these statements?
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>>389136119
What statements? Why are you answering my question with more questions? Really makes me think.
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>>389105606
Could this have anything to do with the fact that people in Japan can't even find a Switch anymore and have to enter lotteries just for a chance? Combine that with the fact that the same full game is already available on 3DS and there's no rush to get the Switch version right now.
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>>389136117
>aren't very good compared to the mainline titles.
They're nearly exactly the same.
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>>389136170
Then why was Tri on Wii?
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>>389136271
I don't know, ask Capcom. Now, source on your claims?
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>>389136382
The same source for how you claim MHW is for newcomers
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Nintendo and third party don't mix well. Not even on a brand new system, for a popular series in their most successful region. Every worthwhile Switch game is first party, or has Mario in it so far. Capcom CLEARLY understands the market better than anyone on here. It's painfully obvious why they won't localize it on Switch and these numbers just prove it.
>T-they could port MHW to Switch easily
If MHW were launching on both Switch and PS4 in Japan on the same day, the PS4 version would still outsell it. You have to understand this by now.
>B-but Japs prefer portable
This is a meme perpetuated on here that is flat out wrong. When given the option, you go for the better version, not the downgraded one for the sake of "portability." Especially with MHW, the first true HD upgrade for the series. It's why people have a PC vs PS4 dilemma right now. Do you wait 6 months or play ASAP?
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>>389136271
Because the PS3 was shit to work on.
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>>389136479
>This is a meme perpetuated on here that is flat out wrong
How is it wrong if it's a true statement?
Every console MH game has flopped.
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>>389136479
>If MHW were launching on both Switch and PS4 in Japan on the same day, the PS4 version would still outsell it. You have to understand this by now.
>Handheld series selling worse on a handheld
Wat?

>This is a meme perpetuated on here that is flat out wrong. When given the option, you go for the better version
Dragon Quest says hello.
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>>389136519
Doesn't stop Capcom from releasing PS3 games.
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>>389136225
Offline garbage quests and wonky difficulty escalation disagree with you.
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>>389136720
So monster hunter.
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>>389136720
Was Generations your first MH game or something?
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>>389136614
>Dragon Quest says hello
Didn't the PS4 version of DQXI outsell the 3DS version? If so, that actually proves his point
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>>389137013

Nope. The sales data proved otherwise.
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>>389137082
Ah, looks like that was just digital sales, and the 3DS sold more physically
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>>389137082
http://gematsu.com/2017/08/dragon-quest-xi-sales-stronger-ps4-track-meet-lower-end-sales-target

Not that guy but come one bro. You people have no problems trusting Capcom saying MHXX has sold 1.7 million but sales data says only 1.5 million.
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>>389137013
Contrary to what the PS4 fanboys believe the digital sales didn't change anything.
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>>389136614
>handheld series
I guarantee you the majority of MH multiplayer in Japan is done over wifi and not locally. Have you ever seen people meet up to play MH in real life? Me neither. It being handheld has nothing to do with its primary appeal.
>but the console versions never sold well
Yes, because they were on Nintendo home consoles and had shit/nonexistent online infrastructure. Do you see how the trend continues with MHXX?

Now MHW is coming to platforms that embrace online culture. Figure out how that'll work.
>>389136614
DQ....Think about install base. If Sun/Moon were launching on Switch, you think it would outsell the 3DS version? Both DQ and Pokemon aren't visually demanding, so caring about optimal performance doesn't apply. MHW on the other hand is aiming to please veterans and graphics fags. And an older demographic than both of the games above.

You're both trying to apply incomplete logic to this. Sales figures and Capcom's preemptive non localization proves how little you know.
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>>389137237
>You people have no problems trusting Capcom
No one trusts Capcom especially given how assbackwards their site is.
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>>389105606
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>>389137316
>Yes, because they were on Nintendo home consoles and had shit/nonexistent online infrastructure.
You do realise that the best selling MH home console game is Tri right?
You know, the game that's on a fucking Nintendo system?

Jesus, you retards don't even bother doing the research.
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>>389136882

Yes, prior games in the series were similar, but it's still a big step back from how comparatively tightly crafted 4U was. Honestly I'm not even sure it was as good as 3U. In 4U, monsters that debuted in older gens typically got updated movesets to reflect gameplay changes and the faster pace of the game in general, as well as to at least attempt to sort out some of the bullshit in the older games. In Generations that's usually never the case, there's no excuse for shit like Bulldrome and Shogun Ceanataur to just be slapped into the game as they were in Freedom Unite.

Even besides that, there's just stuff like how the game barely feels like it has a story, poor quest progression with mountains of dull low-rank gathering quests, the difficulty of the game drastically spiking between low rank and high rank as a result of high rank quests being balanced for multiplayer only, small touches like monster intro cinematics being completely missing, styles and hunter arts destabilising the game's balance, the entire content of the game being a case of spamming quantity over quality. It feels lazily put together and cheaply made. Huge step down after 4U.
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>>389137316
>It being handheld has nothing to do with its primary appeal.
That's the only reason it took off in Japan you dumbass. Prior to going handheld it would sell sub 1m numbers and that was on the PS2.
>Yes, because they were on Nintendo home consoles
Tri, the game on the Wii, is currently the best selling home console MH.

>Figure out how that'll work.
Badly because it lacks everything that made MH popular to begin with.

Did you even bother doing basic fact checking?
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>>389137316
>If Sun/Moon were launching on Switch, you think it would outsell the 3DS version?
No, due to Switch shortages. People could pull another BoTW though.
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>>389136479
The 3DS has seventeen games that sold one million+ in Japan, many of them two and some even four.
The PS4 has 2 games that sold one million, and barely.
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>>389137443
How can you be this stupid? The only other home console release that wasn't on a Ninty platform was the original PS2 version. Of course a refined sequel is gonna sell more than the original IP. Especially after its popularity on PSP. Especialy if it's a worldwide release. Inb4
>Japan only PS3 port
It's a port in a series where grinding can burn you out. Why bother playing the same game a second time?

MHW is gonna do well with vets. Doesn't matter if newcomers latch onto it. Doesn't mater if it trends on Switch. It's gonna have online with chat, a thriving community, and continued support via free DLC model like on 3DS (already confirmed). There will probably some bullshit season pass in addition but whatevs at this point.
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>>389137669
>In 4U, monsters that debuted in older gens typically got updated movesets to reflect gameplay changes
It's funny you would say this because one of the biggest problems players had was that the gen 1 and 2 monsters were dropped in with minimal to no changes.
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>>389137950
Any of those 2 PS4 games called Monster Hunter?
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>>389137951
>bullshit season pass
I'd rather a season pass than G edition
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>>389137951
>The only other home console release that wasn't on a Ninty platform was the original PS2 version.
And that suddenly means they aren't home console games right?

I don't think you realise this but your whole argument is based around ignoring things that don't adhere to your views.

>MHW is gonna do well with vets
Don't kid yourself. Most veterans have not picked up on what World is offering.
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>>389137701
>>It being is the only reason it took off in Japan you dumbass. Prior to going handheld it would sell sub 1m numbers and that was on the PS2
Did you know that PSP came out after PS2? Do you know how technological hype works, and how online multiplayer was practically nonexistent until Xbox original? Of course it sold better on PSP. The only way to play multiplayer was local or ad hoc. There are now better options. And it was a prime sequel, with new features, on a platform whose only competition was the DS fat. Not smart phones, those weren't out. And the DS was unappealing as shit at the time.
>>Yes, because they were on Nintendo home consoles
>Tri, the game on the Wii, is currently the best selling home console MH.
>>Figure out how that'll work.
>Badly because it lacks everything that made MH popular to begin with.
What are you even implying?

>Did you even bother doing basic fact checking?
You have no idea what you're talking about. See above. It's obvious that you have tunnel vision when it comes to arguments.
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>>389138053
At least a G edition replaces the original game. With season pass you still have to buy the game + DLC.
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>>389138032
FFXV and DQXI, two cultural phenomena. You think Monster Hunter is going to triple that?
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>>389138215
>G edition replaces the original game
What? How is that a good thing?
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>>389138281
Monster Hunter will sell Monster Hunter numbers. They appeal to Monster Hunter fans after all.
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>>389138325
It's a good thing in the same way that a GOTY edition of a game is a good thing.
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>>389138203
>Did you know that PSP came out after PS2? Do you know how technological hype works, and how online multiplayer was practically nonexistent until Xbox original? Of course it sold better on PSP. The only way to play multiplayer was local or ad hoc. There are now better options. And it was a prime sequel, with new features, on a platform whose only competition was the DS fat. Not smart phones, those weren't out. And the DS was unappealing as shit at the time.
You see this. None of this helps your argument.
Especially since the psp was not only hacked wide open by the point MH popped up but had a far lower install base than the PS2.
Also you literally just admitted that local play was the main draw when it went to the PSP.

>What are you even implying?
That the home console versions don't sell particularly well but Tri on the Wii is the best selling home console game anon.
It's not rocket science.

>It's obvious that you have tunnel vision when it comes to arguments.
As opposed to you who has no focused argument to the point you're trying to connect completely different things in a pathetic attempt to save face?
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>>389138354
So Tri numbers then? About a million?
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>>389138195
>PS2 release (worldwide)
>Wii release (worldwide)
>Wii U release (worldwide)

If you're going to ignore how each one of these platforms panned out, I'll spell it out for you
>PS2
>platform with innumerable new IPs
Expecting MH to do well on here is silly. There are over 100 more worthwhile games on the platform than the original Monster Hunter. Capcom alone had 4-5 different IPs that for the bill
>Wii
>console where party games dominate
>literally everyone had one even if they had no games for it
MH Tri did well, it moved pro controllers, and showed that third party might work. It was a farce. That's why it was rereleased on handhelds and Wii U, to get to an install base that would actually play it. The smart phone boom followed this
>Wii U
>poor console sales
>outsold by Vita
>but MH3U released during a game drought so there was a glimpse of potential

I can go on and on. Apply the above to MHXX, and MHW. You do the math, in done spoon feeding
>most veterans don't
Get off of /v/. Your worldview is extremely small
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>>389134706
The vast majority of those 8 million views were from preroll ads going on during E3. Why that keeps getting posted is beyond me. If those views were legitimate then the follow-up videos on the game would have far more exposure than they do now.
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>>389138595
That's a good start. More than MH3G. As time passes, it will grow, just like how it was from MH3G to MH4.
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>>389138573
Your arument is based on a market ten years old. The landscape has changed drastically. If you can't understand how MH played out on each platform, your argument holds zero clout.

It's you that ignores obvious reasons, or maybe you're unaware of them. It's not like MH was released across 4 platforms simultaneously, and the PSP version won out in Japan. That's not the reality of it. Just like how 4U sold well in the states. It had nothing to do with "oh now it's finally off home consoles!" And more to do with positive reviews, it being great for old and new fans, and being on a widespread platform that somehow has the best online the series had to offer up until that point.

Seriously, apply some logic. Your refusal to understand sales figures is baffling. Don't just look at the numbers and make assumptions. Look at their place in time.
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>>389138602
>platform with innumerable new IPs
You mean like the Wii?
The same console that also had Nintendo's own games giving them far more competition?

I'm not even the same anon but it's pretty clear you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>389105976
>I wanted to get it as my first monhun game.
Oooff.... Good thing it won't be localized. You just avoided a crisis.
Good thing you'll play the vastly superior MHW as your first now.
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>>389105606
Japs know that it's better to wait for the real Monster Hunter 5 on PS4 than to get a shitty cash grab port.
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>>389139502
Which is why the nips don't want it right?
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>>389139178
Jesus Christ.

>comparing PS2 to Wii
Show me one person who can sit here and say there were more quality IPs on Wii than PS2. There was stiff competition for new IPs on PS2. Monster Hunter was Drakengard tier. Do you know a successful new IP that wasn't Nintendo owned on the Wii? No More Heroes. You know why? No games at the time. Do you know a new IP that sold like shit and got ported later to Vita?
Muramasa. That's how the Wii worked. It was all over the place

MH Tri was only released for Wii at the time. It didn't shatter records, and it was a shallow game by comparison. Capcom follows the install base. That's why no MH on Vita. That's why at best you get a port on Switch. That's why Monster Hunter World is on 3 platforms.
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>>389139429
>Good thing you'll play the vastly superior MHW as your first now.
Man, it's a lose-lose situation.
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The console ports always sell like shit, Wii U MH3 sold bad and XX sold bad, big shock. If you wanna gold face post use the 3ds dales, because if I recall it didn't do so hot there
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>>389139178
>ah dang it, the new Monster Hunter Tri is only on Wii
>well I have one, and the new mechanics look cool. I wanna hunt
>I guess I'll buy the only option I have for continuing the franchise, on a platform I have
>well swimming was shit but Lagiacrus was cool
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>>389124950
Sonybros would say it was designed to fail or something again, Xbros would be silent because they don't exist, PCfats probably will just be too busy playing that shitty streamer bait early access shooter thing, and Nintendfags will be laughing their ass off since they'd be right all along. People are using Switch XX as an example of Nintendo's failure but it just proves no one wants monster hunter on a fucking console anymore.
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>>389139663
>Show me one person who can sit here
How do you expect me to do that on a board of Sonygros that think the Wii was only first part games?
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>>389139793
The PSP says hi.
And that still wouldn't explain the poor sales of the PS2 games.
Hell Tri was even a sub service in Japan if I remember right.
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>>389140032
Can you explain the poor sales of GTA 1 and 2? Why didn't they sell 80 million like GTAV did?
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>>389139884
If you tried it'd be embarrassing. I'll show you why
>Persona 4
>Kingdom Hearts
>God of War 1/2
>FFX
I'm stopping right here. God of War was first party.
>Mario Galaxy 1/2
>Smash
>Zelda TP
>Mario Kart
>Donkey Kong Country
Do you see what I did? I picked out prime examples of solid, somewhat well known games on both platforms. Nintendo competed with itself on Wii. That's not to say there were no good third party games, it's just that they could not sell. Third party was the life blood of PS2.

So when you have a third party that has multiple IPs, you end up with Chaos Legion outselling Monster Hunter. You end up with a Drakengard 2. You get MH pushed way down, past even the abysmal Devil May Cry 2, way past every Resident Evil entry, past the Mega Man X Collection, as it gets eclipsed by Okami, Marvel vs Capcom 2, SF3rd Strike port, etc. All of these are Capcom IPs. All on PS2. Explain how someone could purchase Monster Hunter, a game with no coverage, and a steep learning curve, released under the radar, over something like DMC3.
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>>389140719
Yeah top down 2D games in an age where 3D was the big thing. Also funny you would focus on 1 and 2 and leave out
3
Vice City
San Andreas

You know, those games that apparently we're such flops that you forgot about them.
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>>389140719
Well done actually
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>>389120572
>>389120813
A NnT fan and Nintenbro? You're my nigga.
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>>389141213
His point was that comparing outdated/nascent games with their sequels on better hardware is stupid, especially with how technology has evolved
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>>389141163
>Persona 4
>>Kingdom Hearts
>>God of War 1/2
>>FFX
You realise all of these series only had two games on the PS2 right? Monster Hunter itself had three games on the PS2 if I remember right.
Considering your post is all about subsequent games that renders your entire post invalid anon.
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>>389141452
Pretty bad point then considering it has nothing to do with the conversation isn't it.
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>>389141452
The point was mostly really just brand awareness. MH is really really popular, but it didn't grow popular overnight.
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>>389105606
>nitpicking this hard
Is almost as if the game has been release already for months
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>>389105606
NINTENBABBYS BTFO
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>>389107073
Barioth only was snow narga in Tri, then they replaced all its fast attacks with slow ones.
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This thread perfectly sums up how much I'd a cancer Sonygro are.
In this thread alone you have people trying to say that if something didn't sell as much as the previous game it's a failure even if it manages to make money, a clear denial of fact when it comes to the success of MH and finally a rejection of the general reception of World.

It's like they're in a world of their own.
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>>389135317
Neogaf is around the corner.
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>>389105606
A game that already sold well on 3DS didn't sell as well on another system. Wow.

It's also funny that Sonygros still think people care about World, especially Nintendo fans now that No More Heroes 3 was just announced exclusively for the Switch.

Enjoy your baby Dark Souls.
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>>389105606
it's a game everyone already played, on a console that was a failure
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>>389105606
>be Capcom
>release better version of a game, not even two years later after the original, for a system with a huge install base, in one country
>then make another version some months later of same game for a new system that just launched, in one country
>Hurrr It sold poorly

Well no fucking shit, you fucking donkey
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>>389141761
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>>389105606
An honest question; could it be that games like MH aren't received well on Nintendo platforms because the majority of its playerbase are actual children?
I mean, I can understand why innocent jimmy next door wouldn't want to play a difficult game like MH.
Especially when you consider the game only starts after the first 10 hours when you're done with the obligatory introductory missions and the picking and gathering stuff.
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>>389143348
>An honest question; could it be that games like MH aren't received well on Nintendo platforms

fuck off back to whatever hole you came from
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>>389143348
>selling a consistent 4mil+ world wide
>best selling home console game was on the wii
>b-but children...
You Sonyshits never think before you post do you.
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>>389140719
GTAV shipped 80 million, not sold.
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>>389143443
>>389143632

Thanks, guess actual discussion is out of the question on /v/.

inb4
>Where do you think you are.
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>>389143348
Dumb faggot.
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>>389145372
Not that you even made the attempt.
Your post revolved entirely around something that was non applicable to the situation at hand.
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>>389145372
Did you even read your post?
>could it be that games like MH aren't received well on Nintendo platforms because the majority of its playerbase are actual children?
You literally started out with a complete lie about the reception of MH on Nintendo systems and tried to use children as accurate excuse.
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