FF thread why does FF feel classy, it's music is incredible

Because FF has actual REAL creative developers. Unlike western games that just copy paste real life all the time.

Most dont have a happy ending, more like "we been thru alot of shit, thankfully we killed the bad guy otherwise things woulda been more fucked up"

Also FF Tactics is dope, play that if you haven't.

>>389096509
What is a good Final Fantasy I should torrent on my pc? Sans FF X and X-2.

>>389098461
Old Sprite ones: FF6 for Snes (Do not get the steam version)... FF4, Any version is ok, the DS Version I heard was ok, but I never played it.

"Newer" 3D ones: FF7 HD remaster, FF9 is ok as well.

>>389098461
Oh and FF5 for Gameboy Advanced is comfy as well.

>>389096509
>FF
>Classy
It's the Naruto of JRPGs.

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>>389098461
>What is a good Final Fantasy I should torrent on my pc? Sans FF X and X-2.

XIII

>>389099380
I personally like XIII, but I really couldn't get into 13-2... I wanted Lightning back, and I was EXPECTING linearity, so yea... Maybe i'll force myself to get thru it, i heard 13-3 was pretty good.

>>389099239
Literally Dragon Quest

>>389099916
That would be the Dragon Ball of JRPGs you fucking idiot.

>>389100004
FF has almost nothing to do with Naruto and DQ has significantly more to do with Naruto considering it's just as omnipresent and cheesy

FF is considerably more serious and nuanced

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>>389100331
>FF is considerably more serious and nuanced

>>389100004
You're a fucking moron, FF has more westerm medival fantasy in it AND world mythology than alot of western RPG's do. You're a useless fucking moron, now fuck off you useless sack of yankee danky doodle shite, fuck off will ya please?

>>389100432
Considering how many of the monsters are literally ripped from Biblical Mythology, Ancient Greek Mythology, The summons are ripped from Ancient Western Mythology, Hindu Mythos, Greek Mythos, Japanese Mythos, A SHIT ton of Celtic Mythology as well.

You know fuck all about the games, and you're a retard to boot. Go back to playing PUBG, you witless fucking moron.

>>389099834
lol no. Just play XIII. XIII-2 is shit, it was praised by people who hated XIII. LR is good for the battle system.

>>389100432
Are you telling me fucking Dragon Quest is a super serious, adult game

>>389100736
I played every single FF you fucking underage imbecile.
What does ripping off monsters from world mythos and D&D like every single fucking RPG ever did has to do with a game being more serious and nuanced than others?
If that's the case then SMT shits all over FF for that dumbass reason alone.
FF is not even a RPG to begin with, even DQ manages to be a better RPG than FF, not to mention the complete garbage gameplay.

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October.

>>389096509
>why does FF feel classy, it's music is incredible
you answered your own question. Somebody like Nobuo isn't just a run of the mill composer, he's one of the best living composers in the world right now. In Japan people with talent like that are willing to work on games and view it as a worthy art medium to display their work and talent. In the west that is very often not the case

>>389096509
FF6 fan translation worth a playthrough? I've played the original as a teenager and barely remember it aside from a couple major events and some characters.

>>389101035
Look at this contrarian faggot, believe whatever you want you cum bucket for niggers.

Go play your fucking Low budget trash "RPGs" with multiple "choice" (but in the end doesn't really matter, cuz it's still linear in once way or another, faggit) Or go play your fucking MUD's again, like you did back in the 90's, you fucking slobbering meat-head.

Also pretty sure you're a fat bald dude who can't get pussy, that's why you're on here trying to subdue other peoples opinions about entertainment.
Why don't you go to /pol/ and talk about world events that are relevant, you fat fuck. Maybe you can actually contribute something to the world, for once. Instead of being a freeloading faggit.

>>389101471
Which one?

>>389101180

Can't wait for 3 hallways and 4 bosses.

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>>389100331
>FF is considerably more serious and nuanced
I like FF but come on.

>>389101750
Than DRAGON QUEST
Are you seriously fucking disputing that

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>>389101792
Yes

>>389101035
Your obvious shifting of the Goal posts is fucking pathetic, do us all a favor and scram.

>>389101180
>he's one of the best living composers in the world right now
Ripping off Hendrix and the Queen doesn't make you a good composer, Uematsu is pretty average, he didn't even study music like Hamauzu, Ito or Shimomura, and it shows.
>>389101638
No need to be mad son, FF is widely acknowledged as a babby's first game series, saying that is anything more than that is frankly embarassing, ad hominen and telling people who didn't even bring /pol/ into the thread to go back to /pol/ is pretty bad too.

>>389101894
>Taking influence from other artists is a bad thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1vwlTZ5EGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iof5pRAIZmw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_yCHBInuCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGOLjgXCJaE

Wtf I hate Shimomura and Hamauzu now.

>>389101894
Nah, I'm telling you to do something useful with your life and maybe /pol/ would help you. Rather than trying to "convert" people over to playing Video Games that YOU enjoy, but hate to break it to you: Nobody wants to play your Low Budget bullshit fucking Multiple Choice Western RPG's. You're in the extreme minority there, buddy. And defend your so called "high brow" RPG's all you want, but the fact of the matter is that they're mostly just braindead "choices" that have little to no impact on the game at all.

Just because you can "create your own story" in a sandbox RPG, doesn't mean it's good in any way, shape or form.

>>389097560
This. The Devs have a standard they wont go lower then that. Not that I know, I tried the demo and got bored and quit so :| But I do respect the game.

How did they get away with it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IiOzi05IlA

WOWEE, it's like EVERY WESTERN Artist never got inspiration or took things from other artists before them. Ya that's it, they're 100% Original. OH AND EVERY JAPANESE ARTIST IS 100% A COPY CAT, YEA GUYS, THAT's Logical...

Lol... Also why would you mention Hendrix anyways? Aren't you a Trump supporter? Aren't you suppose to hate Niggers?

>>389101894
>>389102686

>>389102127
Anyone who has ever made anything has taken influence from something so that guy's argument was already a failure.

Reminder that there is no single best FF game, there are only the ones that don't suck, as all the ones that are good don't outdo one another overall.

>>389102778
I'm aware, Stravinsky himself said 'good composers borrow, great composers steal'. I was just pointing the absurdity of what that person posted since no musician is ever going to be 100% original.

>>389102127
One thing is taking influences, another is straight up copying music, see Dark Messenger for instance.
>>389102446
I don't want to convert anyone, nor do I really want to talk about WRPGs when there's plenty of JRPG with actual RPG gameplay that are not FF, it's just baffling that you people have such low standards.
>>389102686
Calm down redditor, I'm not even american.
>why would you mention Hendrix anyways?
Seems like I pay more attention to the games than you do.

>>389101854
That's fucking pathetic
>>389101894
>Uematsu didn't study harmony
1. I highly doubt that.
2. Even if he didn't, writing 90% of the music he has requires a fundamental understanding of harmony, voice leading, etc. Hamauzu is shit compared to Uematsu.

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>>389103060
I hate that everything I love either dies, becomes a shitfest, or is resurrected into a shitfest abomination.

>>389096509
FF4 has an amazing soundtrack but if you want a JRPG series with great music all the time you want SaGa. Saruin's theme from MS is right up there with Divine Identity for 100/10 final battle themes.

>people ITT responding to SaGa-kun
Just let him wallow in his shitposting, he's still mad from getting blown the fuck out in an earlier thread today.

>>389096509
>why does FF feel classy, it's music is incredible
its the music

Reminder that >>389101894 thinks the person who wrote this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4lWELGVB10

Doesn't understand harmony.

>>389103723
>there's a SaGa-kun now
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>389103789
That guy is a known shitposter who goes into FF threads shilling SaGa/Hamauzu while spouting bullshit (like the stuff about Uematsu in this thread). He is quickly approaching XV-kun levels of autism. Just ignore him

>>389103447
>1. I highly doubt that.
He didn't, Uematsu is a hobbyist composer and musician.
>writing 90% of the music he has requires a fundamental understanding of harmony, voice leading, etc.
Which is all extremely basic if you know a bit of music theory and composition yourself.
>Hamauzu is shit compared to Uematsu.
Hamauzu is light years ahead of Uematsu as a composer, his compositions are immensely more complex, better written and fluid than Uematsu's, there's an abyss of difference in skill between the two, but that's because Hamauzu is a professional musician, they are two people with fundamentally different backgrounds and formations.

>>389103916
Why can't you just like both? One of the best FF songs was a collaboration between the two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miuNmfcBfu8

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>>389100331
>FF is considerably more serious and nuanced
summaries make FF plots sound deeper than they actually are
take FF4, a story of redemption about a knight who followed his king's orders until it was too late
sounds really interesting right? but really the story is a fucking mess with twists and turns and Cecil actually doesn't do much himself

Better than anything by Hamauzu: https://youtu.be/DUy8lSSJSfE

>>389104003
Who said I don't like both?
I just pointed out that in terms of actual skills Uematsu is greatly overrated.

>>389104101
Wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJE6SSX-aw

>>389101676
I guess a better question is which translation is closest to the source material?

>>389104175
Not nearly as rhythmically or harmonically complex. Besaid is literally one chord the entire song.

>>389099239
well what is a classy jrpg then

>>389104127
What does a song's complexity have to do with anything?

>>389103304
You're a fucking idiot. I know where Uematsu's inspiration comes from, you degenerate piece of shit.
And I said it once, and I'll say it again. Just because your so-called "High Brow" RPG's let you have multiple choices, doesn't make them superior games or amazing storylines in any WAY, SHAPE or FORM.
Also, you wanna talk about Straight up copying music? Let's talk The Witcher series, and Witcher 3. Literally 100% direct rip off of traditional slavic songs. But Witcher fangay's will never fess up to that shit.

Uematsu blends classical melody and rock perfectly, there's literally nobody out there with his style. If you think otherwise, you're just a contrarian faggot who has to "go against the grain" just to try and feel relevant. Sorry, but you're just plain wrong about Uematsu, so grow the fuck up you degenerate man-child.

Anyways I'm tired of this place, so fuck you, and fuck 4chan in general. Was a mistake ever coming here thinking that there might be fun/interesting discussions. But nevertheless, it's just filled with degenerate pieces of filth like you. I'm done with this fucking website as I plan to get pussy sometime in the future, unlike you faggots. Fuck off and enjoy discussing irrelevant topics for the rest of your life. News Flash: You'll never become relevant, ever.

>>389104256
Lost Odyssey

>>389104356
Okay John.

>>389103304
yet you haven't posted one you enjoy you fucking retard

Guys I wanna dip into the first game (PSP), what kinda party should I aim for? I'm thinking Fighter/Red/White/Black.

>>389104475
Actually he posted one Hamauzu track which is blatantly more simplistic in harmony than most if not all Uematsu tracks.

>>389103304
>Level scaling is a good mechanic
>Punishing grinding by making unwinnable situations instead of balancing the stats is good game design

Literally no one cares about your opinions on RPGs, your taste is shittier than XV-kun's. You have only dug your hole deeper by claiming that Uematsu doesn't understand music. Fuck off and stop shitting up threads

>>389099916
Dragon Quest is the Rumiko Takahashi of JRPGs
as in it super episodic, but there is the main plot, and that works sometimes but sometimes it gets tired and needs to get to the point

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>>389104310
What does that have to do with my post?
>>389104356
Wew laddie, you might want to take some chill pill.

>>389104356
>classical
>melody

Oh i am laffin

>>389104812
Classic music (from Greece, as well as the European revival of Greek aesthetics) is very much based around a core melody

>>389104595
I take you're the guy from the earlier XV thread that got destroyed by those two anons.
Pretty funny you accuse somebody else of shit taste while talking about games you can't even managed to play decently.

>saga-kun gets agitated

if only the saga series was as vivid as you are right now.

FF story is hurting itself by being required to have certain elements to make it an FF game.
Like titan, leviathan, bahamut etc
XV would have been so much better if the story wasn't forced to have them in it.

>>389104310
Because only composers with Schizophrenia from 5 centuries ago are Relevant am I rite?
>>389104812
Also, fuck off with your complexity bullshit.

I and II are my favorite FF games. Playing Dawn of Souls on my GBA SP in the middle of the night was max comfy.

>>389105047
Eh they needed *something* to tie it more to the series.
Otherwise it'd be seen as too much of a departure

>>389105015
>two anons
>trying this hard to cover up your samefagging

Tell me more about how punishing grinding by making unwinnable situations instead of balancing the stats is good game design SaGa-kun

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>>389105204
I don't need to, the other two anons told you perfectly, you're evidently too stupid to even understand how to play a JRPG correctly.

>>389104617
>I was just pretending to be retarded XDD chill bro its not that serious

You got destroyed, fuck off.

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>>389105016

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FFX has such a cute romance. It's probably the only romance in a game I've bought into and felt natural.

>>389105407
>level scaling per se is not a bad design idea
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>389105416
>Little bitch has a shitfit over nothing
>H...he sure showed you bro

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>>389105634
>SaGa games
>Level scaling
Do you people actually know what you're talking about?
FFVIII has actually level scaling.

>>389105830
That's a direct quote from SaGa-kun dumbass.

>>389105889
Really? Point me out to it, because nobody who actually played SaGa would mention something that straight up doesn't exist.

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>>389105016
SaGa is a wasted series outside of Japan, and we only have Square to blame for that

>>389105204
If you're grinding on shitty enemies and continuing to do so despite getting no results, that's all on you. Pay attention.

>>389106168
Well, at least SaGa didn't become the shitfest that FF is at the moment, not having to cater to a larger audience is good sometimes.
I blame Wada for that though, he killed a lot of good IPs.

>>389105204
Hey look you are back to shit up another thread that wasn't about SaGa. You give one mention about the franchise and you go mental. I don't even know if you are the same guy that went mental on the series in /jrpgg/ but it seems like people that ardently hate the series have some sort of autismal power bestowed to them.

We get it, you are going to make the exact same arguments again, then when people either debunk them or actually ask about your experiences in the game rather than being vague you will vanish once more until a new thread comes up and will repeat the cycle. That is fine by me because I don't get many opportunities to discuss the series so if the only times I get to talk about it is because someone want to try to agitate the fans of the series then it is fine by me.

>>389103447
>p-please don't criticize my precious FF, I can't handle it.

>>389107981
Good argument.

>>389107981
shut up retard

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>>389096509
You are now hearing the music