I refuse to believe anyone actually cares about backwards compatibility

>>389039472
Virtually all of the points you made are retarded. I think that BC does hold consoles back, and I don't really rely on BC, but I did really enjoy being able to play GC games on my Wii and Wii U. It means I can have as much possible in one place.

>>389039647
>I did really enjoy being able to play GC games on my Wii and Wii U.
you know any toaster PC can play GC games better than a Wii or Wii U right?
And Wii U doesn't even support GC discs, so whats the point of bringing that up?

I honestly dont care cause I already have the consoles and/or just emulate them on PC. Although in my experience maybe it's cause some people are too lazy to switch out console every time? I sure as hell find it a chore to switch out when I feel like playing an oldie.

>>389039738
>he doesn't know about Nintendont

>>389039472
Regardless of money its nice to have less consoles you need to connect and boot up seperately. I most definitly did play wii games on my wiiU and GC games on my wii. And you better believe my 3DS plays more DS games than it does 3DS ones (original DS broke).

My GameCube broke so my wii is the only way to play my gc games.

>>389039834
Nintendont doesn't support GC discs and its not as good as Dolphin
>>389040023
>I most definitly did play wii games on my wiiU and GC games on my wii
But why?

>>389040145
Nintendont supports GC games (on USB/SD) because the Wii U has the hardware to play them directly, just like the Wii. It's not an emulator.

>>389040309
I know it can play the games but it won't play your old discs and you won't have access to your save files so why even bother?

>sell your old consoles
no but I definitely have limited space for what I have hooked up at once, also I never had a ps1 so my first time playing those games was on ps2.

>>389040120
>what is dolphin

>>389040391
You only play a game once? Are you retarded?

>>389040391
You can backup Gamecube memory cards/saves into a Nintendont/Dolphin usable format, you know.

>>389040145
>but why
Why would i go through the hassle of plugging my gamecube back into the tv when i had a wii?

That's you. My friend does in fact play PS1 games on his PS2 and Gamecube games on his Wii.

>>389040478
>nintenyearsold
>PC

>>389040578
But if Nintendo had ignored BC for the Wii they could've spent more time and money developing better shit for it.
>>389040496
if you cant use your discs or memory cards then its not BC its just piracy

>>389039472
>I never used my Wii U to play Wii games
>I never used my PS2 to play PS1 games
I did, and thus by OP is a fag logic I invalidate your opinion by counter example.

I didn't have to sell shit, you can only hook up so many consoles to one TV before it becomes a clusterfuck of cables and AV switching hubs. Excuse me for not wanting to deal with that shit.

>>389040478
Something I'm too lazy to go about doing. Besides I don't feel like dragging my computer downstairs to the tv so I can recreate nostalgia while playing por and Mario party

>>389040728
>let me change definitions when they don't suit my argument
I love how you've been btfo by effectively every person in this thread.

>>389040826
>I don't feel like dragging my computer downstairs to the tv
you play GC and Wii games on 1080p TV? You enjoy the games having shit picture quality?
>>389040931
How can you call it BC when you can't use your save files or discs?

>>389039472

When you stop being underage and accumulate a couple decades' worth of consoles under your TV, then you will understand how retarded your arguments are.

I used my Wii and PS2 for backward compatibility all the time, because I don't have space for my NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Wii, Wii U, Switch, PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 and Xbox 360 in my shelf, and even if I did I already dig around in the cable jungle behind my TV to switch cables often enough for the consoles I currently use - adding several more generations to that would be insane.

>>389039472
Using my wii for gc games, using my ps2 for psx games, using my gameboy advance sp for gba,gbc and gb and i use my 3ds for ds games.

>>389039472
I do. I want to play as many games as I can on one device.

Switch having no backwards compatibility for the Wii U hurt the most and people shouldn't deny it
First, nobody wanted to a Wii U to begin with
Second, it died too soon (mostly because it sucked)
So not many people experienced the few games that are actually good..at least, not long enough

Just think about it for a moment - the Switch doesn't have Mario Maker and Smash Bros yet, it's fucking stupid
It did get Mario Kart 8 and soon getting an improved Pokken, but it still need to get Smash

>>389041075
stop being poor and get a bigger shelf then

>>389041396
>wanting a Smash port instead of new game
fuck off retard

>>389041495
>wanting a a 12452435th edition of smash when the ones we have work just fine

>>389039472
Yeah man I agree. The same way that GTX 1080 graphics cards and Kaby Lake cpus shouldn't be able to play games from 2012 or earlier.

>>389039472
Lol I did faggot. Just because you have the attention span of a goldfish and don't ever want to play older games doesn't mean that it's pointless.

>>389041537
thanks to the shitty MK8 port, now the Switch won't get a new MK9 until like in 3 or so years.

>>389041537
If you want to play the old games just fucking play the old ones, they aren't going anywhere.
>>389041560
>don't ever want to play older games
I played them while they were relevant, latefag. I don't need BC because I play every worthwhile game on the system while its actually alive.

>>389039472
>Have shit load of video games
>New TVs don't support the old consoles
>New consoles don't have backwards compatibility
FUCK YES I CARE YOU FUCK

>>389039472
Poor bait.

>>389041689
So?
It's gonna be the same shit with 4 new tracks.
>>389041690
What if my Wii U / PS3 eventually broke down?
Are you suggesting I spend 1000$ on a PC that can emulate them because nintendo/sony are too lazy to implement BC?

>>389041690
Oh okay, I guess you just played literally every good game on the GC while it was alive, and didn't bother looking back. Do you scowl at people who buy NES/SNES/N64 cartridges, too? Those have been long past their prime, and yet people still play with them.

>>389041860
>What if my Wii U / PS3 eventually broke down?
They won't
>>389041921
>Do you scowl at people who buy NES/SNES/N64 cartridges, too?
what does that have to do with BC?

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>>389041978
>They won't
Great argument anon.

>>389041495
You want to wait 5 years for a new game? be my guest

>>389041978
>They won't
The PS3 is literally a time bomb. Eventually there will be no PS3s in the world.

>>389041978
>I played them while they were relevant
????
How isn't that relevant to what you just said

>>389042061
It's already been 3 years since Smash 4 so it'll only be 2 or 3 until the next one.
>>389042056
What makes you think they will?

>>389039472

This is pretty telling, Anon, you don't know how computers and consoles work. Old games are good games, emulation is done almost wholly by software(there are some hardware BC, but fewer, now that everything has moved to the same architecture), so BC isn't holding it back. If anything, Emulation needs good access to resources since it's pretending to be a different chipset, so there's nothing to suggest that it's somehow hamstringing current games.

Besides, what's holding back current games development is big companies trying to hold on to the normie audience. Those fuckers abandoned ship after last generation, they're all on their cellphones.

>>389039472
Literally
"I only like playing whats new because everything else is trash" : the post.
You are part of the reason games are shit now.

>>389039472
I refuse to believe anyone actually doesn't care about backwards compatibility unless they literally didn't own the last console. Like why the fuck wouldn't you want the ability to play your old games on your new device? You're gonna revisit them eventually.

>>389042242
I played old games while they were relevant on relevant hardware, and I don't get rid of my consoles, why should I care if my new consoles can't play games from old consoles?
Did you get mad when the N64 couldn't play SNES games or the GC couldn't play N64 games?

>>389039472
I use my PS2 to play PS1 games.
I use my GBA to play GB games.
I use my DS to play GBA games.
I use my 3DS to play DS games.

The primary reason that I never used the Wii to play GameCube games is because you need to pull out your GC controllers and hook them into the back of the console to use it that way. I do use my Wii U to play Wii games, although that is mainly because I transferred the saves over. I'd likely just get rid of my Wii U if the Wii version of FF4: After Years wasn't stuck on it.

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>>389039647
>I think that BC does hold consoles back

>>389039472
Backwards compatibility is a meme for console wars

>>389039472
Well, you see, WHEN YOUR CONSOLE DOESN'T HAVE ANY FUCKING GAMES, IT'S GOOD TO BE ABLE TO PLAY GAMES FROM A CONSOLE THAT *HAS THEM*

>>389042307
>Like why the fuck wouldn't you want the ability to play your old games on your new device?
because I don't throw out my old consoles and adding BC just takes away resources that could be used for something else

It saves space having only one console out and it's less hassle to hook up another console to play an older game when the new one does as well.

I don't care about BC myself especially since I have a decent PC, but are you so dense you can't see why people would want BC? Not to mention consoles are always going to be under powered toasters anyways, so I find the "BC holds console back" argument moot.

>>389042770
>are you so dense you can't see why people would want BC?
why should I care what dumb normalfags want?
>consoles are always going to be under powered toasters anyways, so I find the "BC holds console back" argument moot.
why would you want them to be held back even more?

>>389042608
So you just want it gone full stop, and never expect old equipment to break or deteriorate over the decades you carry it? Console cycles are now to the point where almost a decade will pass before a new console will come out you know. I sincerely doubt you've ever owned a console with a disc reader.

>>389042851
No one cares if consoles are underpowered, their selling feature is convenience. And taking away BC is literally making them less convenient.
So if anything, taking away BC is what holds consoles back.

>>389039472
>I don't do thing so that means no one does

>>389043236
>Console cycles are now to the point where almost a decade will pass before a new console will come out you know.
Is this some kind of fucking joke? The Switch came out 4 years after the Wii U did
>I sincerely doubt you've ever owned a console with a disc reader.
I've owned PS2, PS4, Wii, Wii U, and Gamecube
>>389043312
>And taking away BC is literally making them less convenient.
No it isn't, don't throw out your old systems and it won't be a problem.

>>389043509
>just keep this fragile piece of equipment for which there's no official support running for decades then there will be no problem.

>>389043815
If you really care so much about it then why not just emulate?
And its not like they can keep doing it forever. Like, there is no console that plays N64 games besides the N64. what's your excuse there?

>>389043981
>then why not just emulate
Yeah lets fucking wait for the finicky state of some of these to finally get sorted out

>>389039472
That's cool. Just because you refuse to believe in something doesn't mean that thing is erased from existence. I care about BC and it has nothing to do with being poor.

>>389044120
NES, SNES, N64, GC, Wii, Wii U, PS1, Genesis, and lots of other systems are perfectly emulated, what's the problem? I thought PC was the master race?

>>389044203
>I care about BC and it has nothing to do with being poor.
What does it have to do with then?

>>389044204
Why do you assume everyone who wants backwards compatibility has a gaming PC?

>>389043509
Nintendo only tapped out of the Wii U because it bombed harder than hiroshima. Try 3ds, Ps3, xbox360, vita and hell PSP too.

>>389044306
We're on /v/, everyone has a gaming PC
>>389044340
>Try 3ds
what

>>389044204
>WiiU
>perfect

>>389044429
Correct
one of the main reasons I regret buying one

>>389044429
CEMU can already play BOTW, 3D World and Bayonetta 2 better than a Wii U can.

>>389044378
>We're on /v/, everyone has a gaming PC
/v/ doesn't even play video games

>>389039472
I find it stupid how people complain about remasters and remakes (which are usually superior) but then go out and BUY the latest BC game on Xbox.

>>389044958
I'm pretty sure anyone who bought an Xbone has legitimate mental problems. I have a friend who bought one years ago solely because he liked the 360 so much.

>>389039472

I use backwards compatibility all the time. It's not that I'm poor, it's just really fuckin convenient. Got tired of having old systems around just for a few games. The older I get the more if a minimalist I'm becoming. One reason I shifted to my xbone over ps4 when buying multiplats. I have quite a few 360 games I still play a lot and even a few og xbox games. Can't wait to see what games they add so I can get rid of my 360.

>>389041424

Read the rest of the post retard. And do you seriously fucking think someone with all those consoles is too poor to buy a shelf?

>>389045172
>minimalist
stopped reading there

>No on cares about BC
>Meanwhile old ass Capcom ports are selling millions

Backwards compatibility is important for me and my friends because sometimes we want to play melee and sometimes we want to play brawl. Two different games for two different moods.

>>389045127

One s is pretty good and backwards compatibility is done really well. It's still a good console if you like halo gears forza franchises and don't play on pc. I wasn't gonna get one but it was a gift. Not nearly as bad as people here make it out to be.

>>389045547
>It's still a good console if you like halo gears forza franchises and don't play on pc.
everyone here plays on PC.

>>389045494
don't pretend your friends are hardcore enough to notice the differences between Brawl and Melee aside from the roster

>>389045319

Why? I'm lazy af and don't feel like cleaning or moving it around. I hate clutter in my house. I had almost ever major system going back to NES plus hundreds of games. It feels so much better after I sold most of it.

>>389045890
>It feels so much better after I sold most of it.
why would you sell those, you know you're never getting them back right?

>>389045616

I don't :^)

In b4 plebbit retard

>>389045751
Huh? There are a bunch of differences besides the roster. Different maps, different items, and the final smash ball all make for a much different experience. Are you a tourneyfag? Because we play for fun.

>>389045987

Because I had stacks of games and systems I haven't actually played in over a decade and it was depressing. I had no real desire to either. Made a couple thousand bucks too.

I do. It's nice to be able to play my 360 games on my Xbone.
Now if I could play all 360 and huge box games on my Xbone, I'd be happy, no need to haul around 3 consoles, no need to have them all plugged in and taking up space nor having to thing about placement for the things.

>>389046296
Aren't the only good 360 games online? Does anyone even still play those?

>I refuse to believe

because you're a 12 year old

they need to have you verify your age before posting

>>389039472
>I didn't do it so clearly noboby will!

This guy tho

>>389047743
>because you're a 12 year old
why do you say that
>>389047801
only poor people care about it.

>>389039472
>I refuse to believe anyone actually cares about backwards compatibility on consoles

The only reason my hacked Wii U is still plugged in is because I play everything Nintendo from Wii and earlier on it.

>>389047998
why didn't you play it while those systems were relevant? Are you underage?

>if they don't spend time on BC they can spend that time making more stuff for the console
This is childish reasoning. Setting up a system to be able to read a second kind of disc doesn't take as much work as making a new game or any of the other things I'm sure you think they should have done instead.
This isn't game dev simulator. There isn't a bar marked "effort that is allowed to be put into console" and when it's empty it's empty.
Your question is flawed because you are clearly 12.

>>389048119
>Setting up a system to be able to read a second kind of disc doesn't take as much work
surely you have a source for your claims?

>>389047853
only a child could have such a stupid opinion

>>389048119
OP is clearly underage

>>389048119
>There isn't a bar marked "effort that is allowed to be put into console" and when it's empty it's empty.
There kind of is. BC drives up the price of consoles.
>>389048237
only a child would care about having BC, non-underages already have the old systems

>/v/ acts like its a cardinal sin if a console doesn't have BC
>Switch doesn't have BC
>/v/ sucks it dick on a daily basis
Really gets the ol' gears turning huh?

>>389048307

Video games are for children. I'm a 34 year old normie manchild. The more old video game systems you have at my age, the more cringe you look and feel.

>>389048048
>You can never replay games
>You could play all the good games a system had to offer when you were a kid with limited resources

>>389048721
>The more old video game systems you have at my age, the more cringe you look and feel.
sounds like a personal problem

>>389048307
you still have yet to deny that you are underage. Show us some proof that you are over eighteen.

>>389048782
The fuck do you want me to do, post my birth certificate?

>>389048770
>>You could play all the good games a system had to offer when you were a kid with limited resources
I played way more games when I was a kid than I do now. I had more free time and didn't spend most of my free time shitposting on /v/

>>389048772

I guess it is. I don't want people to think I'm some goofy jerkoff manbaby gamer nerd that I am.

>>389049029
I also played more back then, but spent more time on the few ones I had. Spent so much time just running around in Majora's Mask.

>>389045452
what's that got to do with anything?

>>389039738

> any toaster

Lol bullshit.

Did you know you can play the entire wii/GC library on a $50 wii?

>>389051617
why would you want to though? With Dolphin you can do stuff like mods and HD texture packs and shit, you'll never be able to do that on a Wii or Wii U

>>389048680
In Switch's defense (and i don't even have one), the system literally does not accept discs and couldn't possibly fit a WiiU Disc.

>>389052174
That's irrelevant, they could've made a disc based system and they didn't, and that's on Nintendo

>>389047620
Nah, there's a lot of fun stuff too like DoDonPachi, Forza, Ace Combat and such.

>>389051681

Gay trash that nobody needs

>>389052521
sour grapes etc

>>389052614

> muh pixels

Only gaymer-chair bound autists care

Fags like you think shitty filters are good in 2d games too.

>>389039472
We're not all neckbeards with 50 consoles hooked up to a CRT for "the authentic experience", weeb retard.

I bought a fat original BC model PS3 on hackable firmware back in like 2012 solely in order to hack it and be able to play all the PS1, PS2, and PS3 games I wanted for free. I never owned a PS1 or PS2 (my older brother had one when he was in college, but he was a dudebro that only played shit like Madden. I never got a chance to play actual games on it).

I own a Wii U, and enjoy the fact I can pirate any Gamecube or Wii game on it, alongside any Wii U game. (I owned Gamecubes and a Wii in the past, but I've generously given them to friends that were less fortunate).

I have a flashcart on my 3DS to allow for free DS games, and my Vita is hacked with Adrenaline for free PSP games. I never owned a PSP.

My PC is a literal potato, so emulation isn't really an option. I'm saving up for a PC right now, since this one is roughly a decade old, and is a toaster by 2008 standards.

tl;dr I enjoy backwards compatibility, especially if it can be hacked for free games.

>>389052818
>muh pixels
Why the fuck would I not want something to look better if I had the option?

>>389052918
>casual scum thinks his opinion matters

>>389053146

Because I honestly don't care and just want to play abunch of games without spending hours hunting for texture packs and then testing them.

Not to mention then shitposting about it with some elitist attitude on /v/ to cement your bonafide autism.

>>389052330
>That's irrelevant, they could've made a disc based system and they didn't, and that's on Nintendo
its really not irrelevant. Most people like BC but know its a secondary feature. If it can't work specifically because a major primary function works against it, its obviously getting canned. If the next console uses cartridges again then BC can be something even on the table to praise or complain about not being there.

>>389053383
>Because I honestly don't care
just say you have low standards then.

>YES CORPORATIONS, FUCK ME HARDER

Nigger why you so angry about BC of all things? It's neat. Companies really only started taking it out when they realized they make more money by selling you remasters or ports than giving you BC

>>389053429
>. If it can't work specifically because a major primary function works against it,
That's exactly why PS4 doesn't have BC and /v/ still counts that as a negative against it TO THIS DAY.
And you know as well as I do the next Nintendo console won't be backwards compatible with Switch.

>>389053442
BC is unncessary, I don't throw my out old consoles so its pointless and only serves to take away time and resources that could be put towards other things on the console.
I buy a console to play new games, why the fuck would I want a new system that plays old shit?

>>389053628
You make it sound like the ability to pop in an older generation discs is somehow hurting you.
>why the fuck would i want a new system that plays oldshit
Why would you be against a new system that, on top of new shit, can also play old shit?

>>389053326
>he thinks gaming companies listen to people like him and not the casual hordes

poor, naive faggot

>>389054136
It makes the console less worthwhile for me because BC isn't a selling point since I don't get rid of my old consoles
>Why would you be against a new system that, on top of new shit, can also play old shit?
It doesn't need to play old shit, any time and money they spent on putting BC in the console could've been used elsewhere to improve it and offer something that's actually new

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>>389039472
backwards compatibility is a huge selling point:
-allows you to buy a new console early as an upgrade and still have a shitload of games to make it worthwhile.
-the new console can run the older games better or has some sort of benefit (better fps - xbone. better picture and widescreen - nintendont).
-the new console still has netplay for the older game, giving the game more life (xbone).

basically when a console has backwards compatibility, you're still finding new old games and it just doubles the library.
also it really let ps2 further rape gc and original xbox.
it was great for 3ds too.

>>389039472
You've got to be fucking kidding me right?
I soft modded my wii and can now play ever single game from game-cube off a hard drive.
I can't do that with my old gamecube.
That means I can download and store all my games that I own on one single hard drive, but also download all the games that I will never be able to play because availability and pricing.
Oh and to all those who say you can just play them all on dolphin, try playing Chrystal Chronicles 4 players on dolphin or Link 4 swords.

>>389054487
>-allows you to buy a new console early as an upgrade and still have a shitload of games to make it worthwhile.
Or you could not spend any money at all and keep playing those same games on the system you already have
>or has some sort of benefit
There is not any Nintendo console, ever, that improves its games through backwards compatibility. None.
That Nintendont widescreen hack is unofficial and doesn't even work properly most of the time. Off the top of my head it doesn't work with TTYD and I'm sure there's others.
>basically when a console has backwards compatibility, you're still finding new old games
not really, most systems don't have THAT many hidden gems

>>389040728
>its just piracy
Idc man I don't think it's emulator software, it's running natively on the hardware.
That's backward compatibility if I ever saw it.

>>389054341
the problem with that line of thinking is that there's always something a company could have dropped to spend more money elsewhere for a better experience for x person. For all we know Nintendo could have spent money on something else that also isn't a selling point to you, or just drop the thing and not think to add anything else at all.

Many people do appreciate the feature when its possible.

>>389054558
>I can't do that with my old gamecube.
Yes you can, you know GC is hackable right?
>>389054726
Its not really BC since you can't use your discs or memory cards
>>389054739
>the problem with that line of thinking is that there's always something a company could have dropped to spend more money elsewhere for a better experience for x person.
But the difference is, everyone can just buy the old console. There is no one that truly needs or benefits from BC in their consoles.

>>389039472
>Are you all so fucking poor that you have to sell your old consoles when you buy a new one?
I just bought a PS4, this is the first Playstation console that I've ever owned.
In order for me to play a new franchise that's been going for the last two decades I will ether have to play the original or play a remastered version.

Would you rather all those game companies spend their time with remastereds each generation or simply add backward compatablity?

People who have already played those games probably don't want a remastered version unless they were a wee little lad when they first played it.

I for one want less remastered and less rehashes, that's why I support backwards compatibility.

>>389054928
>you can't use your discs or memory cards
The hardware supports the game.
You can always use a wii to rip the saves off of your old memory cards and place them in your hard drive like a civilized person.

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>>389055002
Yeah, except your theory is fucking stupid because companies will still do jewish remasters that barely add anything even when the original is available through BC.

>>389039472
Lack of BC gives companies an excuse to port and sell you the same game OVER AND OVER AND OVER

>>389055086
>You can always use a wii to rip the saves
So, in order to play those games on my Wii U I would still have to keep my Wii around anyways so I can do that shit?
I thought BC is supposed to eliminate the need for keeping old consoles hooked up?

>>389042061
Bitch, like half the board waited 11 before we got the result, 5 years isn't jack fucking shit

>>389055116
Pic unrelated right?
Because TPHD has a hell of a lot of changes and fixes for a remaster.

>>389055204
You can rip them before you sell or box your wii up and put it into storage.
I'm not saying you should go out and buy a new wii.

>>389055198
see>>389055116
Fucking stupid nintenbro dumbass

Being able to consolidate all my games on one system is fucking awesome. Less clutter to have around too.

>>389054928
>But the difference is, everyone can just buy the old console. There is no one that truly needs or benefits from BC in their consoles.
Being able to pay both generations in one console is definitely a convenient plus. There also a good chance for a case where a person may want x console's game but isn't convinced to get x console. Y console however has enough perks that he will by it, and has bc for x console. That person can now play that x console game. Its a perk that benefits people that didn't buy into last generation, or new customers in general that don't want to buy two consoles but would be willing to buy last generation games as well.

>>389055256
>Because TPHD has a hell of a lot of changes and fixes for a remaster.
lol ok thanks for your input you unbiased Nintenbro
>>389055268
>You can rip them before you sell or box your wii up
Why would I want to go that individually for each game instead of just leaving the old systems hooked up?

>>389055348
>. Its a perk that benefits people that didn't buy into last generation
Latefags should never be rewarded. I hate it when I see people trying to act like they're savvy for skipping a gen. I mostly see it from Switch owners

>>389055358
>lol ok thanks for your input you unbiased Nintenbro
Sarcasm aside that's literally a fact.

>>389055358
>Why would I want to go that individually for each game
You don't, you just do it all at once. You act as if the save files are saved on the disc or something.
You just rip the entire memory card in a few seconds.
You must be a shill or a underage.

>>389039472
>Are you all so fucking poor that you have to sell your old consoles when you buy a new one?
No, I am just not a neet lunatic living in a garbage house and thus I don't want 18 consoles plugged into a tv.

>pretending emulation past PS1 is anything close to decent

This meme needs to stop, you are hurting people. People honestly believe the awful farting sounds and weird glitched out textures are "just how old games were lol".

>>389039472
>I refuse to believe anyone actually cares about backwards compatibility on consoles.

Using your OP as an example there would be absolute rioting if Generation 8 Pokemon cut off the previous 1-7 gens.

>>389055453
No it isn't retard
>>389055481
>You must be a shill
a shill for what?

>>389055116
Not gonna lie, I have the origional and I bought the HD version.
I wanted to see what they could do to enhance the lighting and model detail with the Wii U.
There weren't very many other options on the Wii U so it's kind of what I was stuck with.

>>389055597
That's a completely different thing though.

>needing 3 televisions to play all the games
>dude poor lol

I fucking hate this shit. I just want 1 television. Why did they have to assfuck Soul Calibur 1's port so bad.

>>389055514
I think you should get past the year 2009 and check how emulation is now.

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Consoles should not have backwards compatibility. PCs should drop that feature instead, to achieve platform parity.

It'd make PC gaming much more attractive for publishers. We'd get a lot more remasters on Steam, and you could still keep your old PC if you want to play older games. There's no real backside.

>>389055651
>No it isn't retard
Have you actually played either version of the game? Because the differences are present from the moment you start collecting the tears of light.

>>389055651
>a shill for what?
DRM, money grubbing, bad features.
When you defend bad bussness practices like getting rid of BC you really have to wonder, why?
What does removing BC do for a consumer?
Why would you ever want less features?

>>389055448
that seems more like a personal vendetta of yours.

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>>389039472
Well, I do care, I always replay games of older consoles on new ones (ie. Wii games on Wii U) and I generally prefer to buy a console with BC than a console without BC.
You can refuse to believe it as much as you want but, just like me, there are many people that care about it. To save space, to save money, for many other reasons.

Sorry it makes you butthurt, my boy.

>>389055832
I've played both versions.
>tears of light
Yes, thanks for confirming that the remaster actually has LESS content than the original, lmao
>>389055847
>What does removing BC do for a consumer?
Allow the console maker to put their efforts towards other things.
>Why would you ever want less features?
BC is basically a non-feature for me and anyone who owns the previous console, so this point makes no sense.

>>389055448
>I mostly see it from Switch owners
What?

>>389039472
>>389055972

>If consoles have BC that means they have to spend time and money on that instead of actual new things for the console.
If you think developers are going to spend that time better you're wrong.
They're just going to push out their console sooner with less features and bug testing.

>>389056038
They act like they're savvy for skipping a gen, its why they beg for every Wii U game to be ported to switch

>>389055826
I checked yesterday because I got memed into "bro it works now". Its garbage.

>>389056097
I have never seen a Switch user here do this, mainly because they also own a Wii U.

>>389056175
then you don't lurk enough. Most Switch owners don't have a Wii U and they actively brag about that fact.

>>389056097
I don't blame them for skipping the Wii U though, if I hadn't bought a Wii U I would have thought "wait is that it? Is that all the games that generation has to offer?"

>>389056175
>they also own a Wii U
This or they sold it.
Honestly Nintendo needs to up their game.
Their console needs more functionality or more games.

>>389056234
>I don't blame them for skipping the Wii U though
Well that's nice, but I do. If they wanted to play Wii U games they should've bought Wii U. It isn't expensive at all.

>>389055972
>thanks for confirming that the remaster actually has LESS content than the original,
You realise the point of this conversation was to show that the remaster has several changes and fixes right?
The Tears of Light gathering being one of the reason why people didn't like it because it drags on so they reduced that number to decrease the tedium.
Then there's things like Hero mode, the Ghost Lantern, the map showing where side quests are, removing the sword clashing against walls that would interfere with combat, fixing Epona's controls and so on.

>>389056175
It happens. A lot.
Just because you don't see it, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And it's really annoying.

>>389056220
>Most Switch owners don't have a Wii U and they actively brag about that fact.
You say that but it's an extremely rare sight here to see a Switch owner that doesn't own a Wii U.

>>389039472
I'm playing Metal Gear Rising on my Xbone right now so I care.

>>389055972
>BC is basically a non-feature for me and anyone who owns the previous console, so this point makes no sense.
That's great if you own a wiiu, except nobody bought the darn thing that's why its games are getting ported to the switch.

>>389039472
Being able to play GC is the only fucking reason to even touch a Wii.
T. Anon who got one on launch in 2006
Thing is fucking garbage.

As for actual consoles, its nice to have bit forwarding versions of the game is fine too
>waaah but I have to pay for it again!
Then just play it on the original content.

>>389057276
>is the only fucking reason to even touch a Wii.
>not playing Wii games
You wouldn't happen to be one of those retards that think it's nothing but "waggle" would you?

>>389057184
>That's great if you own a wiiu,
No it isn't. Wii U owners got fucked harder than anyone else

>>389057458
I play Wii games on my Wii U and I'm happy with it.

>>389057383
No you bandwagoning retard, I'm one of those guys who realizes its one and a half gamecubes stapled together with an atrociously shitty library and a central control gimmick that never even worked well and ended up largely abandoned. I'm also one of those guys that sees that Nintendo is repeating that process and stapling more and more gamecubes together, hence their complete failure with the WiiU and the objectively poor power of the Switch (which, at least, is selling well).

Stop being a Nintenbro for 5 seconds. Everyone and their grandma knows the Wii was a bad console and that Ninty is sticking to the formula hoping for another 2006 flash in the pan megahit.

>>389057625
>paid $350 to play games he already owns on a dead console
Lmao

>>389057625
Well you're a shiteater with no standards who thinks Nintendo never does anything wrong so who cares what you think?

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>>389057458
Anon, how is wiiu games being ported to the switch bad for wiiu owners?
That they're getting played by more people?
That they're not being held hostage on a dead and poorly received system, dooming said games to the same poor sales and reception?

>>389055948
BC only saves you money by convincing you to buy weaker consoles that are closer to the previous gen.
Unless you mean digital BC, in which case you have to pay for the games again usually. So it doesn't save you money.

>>389041537
>Tr4sh
>just fine
Lmao

>>389057748
>with an atrociously shitty library and a central control gimmick that never even worked well
So you are one of those waggle idiots.

>>389058002
>Anon, how is wiiu games being ported to the switch bad for wiiu owners?
Because its happening after less than 2 years, which means Wii U owners should've just waited 2 years for the Switch to come out and they would get superior versions of all the games

>>389058002
Don't bully him, he was autistic enough to buy a WiiU

>>389058169
>Wii U games are SHIT but I want to play them on my Shitch sooooooo bad

>>389058145
So you are a nintenbro who lacks reading comprehension?
How can I be bitching about waggle if I said the motion control gimmick ended up being largely dropped? The few actual games on the system mainly ignored the motion controls or just used them as one-off segments.

Isn't summer over?

>>389042061
>People unironically want ports
This hobby is dead

>>389058263
I don't own a Switch or a WiiU. Stay mad you bought a dead console that everyone told you was going to flop.

>>389058159
>Because its happening after less than 2 years
So?
There are games on other systems that were ported in a year that were met with applause. In the end though the Wii U owners have played and enjoyed those games as well

>>389058438
>There are games on other systems that were ported in a year that were met with applause.
from /v/? absolutely not. Remember the shitstorm over TLOU?
>In the end though the Wii U owners have played and enjoyed those games
not the definitive versions

>>389049148
Then don't be one you fucking autist

>>389044306
You only need a gaming PC to emulate 6th gen and beyond. You can run PS1 and N64 games at full speed on a 10 year old laptop if you really want to.

>>389058310
>So you are a nintenbro who lacks reading comprehension?
Nah it's more that you're looking at the surface opinions of neo-/v/ and are taking it as fact when the reality is that the Wii has a considerably bigger and better library than the GC before it even when it comes to Nintendo's own first party games.
As for third party support, in that regard the Wii was the hidden gem system with a ton of quality games that no one ever explored because they saw it as a simple "wagglan" machine like you do.

>>389058524
>Remember the shitstorm over TLOU?
Not that there was much of a shitstorm at the time because neo-/v/ doesn't care about being fucked.
>not the definitive versions
Again, so?
How does that overwrite their enjoyment of the game?

>>389058263
Anon
I can count on one hand the amount of wiiu games I'm interested in, and everyone knew years ago that the system was dead in the water and that nintendo was going to scramble to drop it like the hot turd it is.

You're a fool if you bought the wiiu any later than a year after its release.

>>389039472
I was literally playing the first Rayman on my PS2 using 240p over component last week
take a long walk off a short pier

>>389059194
Eh, not him but if you can get a Wii U on the cheap I would say it's worth it just for the multiplayer alone.
Personally I picked up a WW limited edition one for like £180 and felt like it was worth it.

>>389039472
As an example, I missed out on (the few good games that were on the) Wii so it's a welcome feature for me.

>>389058821
>the Wii has a considerably bigger and better library than the GC
Hahaha
>neo-/v/ decided Wii was a bad console
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>3rd party support, Wii was the hidden gym system
jfc nigger I didn't realize I clicked on Neogaf

>>389039472
well I do so I guess your argument is gone

>>389059942
What have you ever actually used BC for that couldn't be done with your old consoles?

>>389059815
Uh yeah, it does. The GC didn't even have a proper Kirby game of all things, the Galaxy games also beat Sunshine in quality by miles.
It also had a lot of RPGs which the Gamecube was lacking.
> I didn't realize I clicked on Neogaf
Neogaf hates Nintendo anon. Hence why the term "neo-/v/" cropped up.

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Consolecucks are pathetic, can play a PC game from 20 years ago just fine. Meanwhile consolecucks beg to make their proprietary idiot box as useless as they can by not even being able to play games you previously bought. I would rather connect as little bullshit to my TV as possible. Not seven proprietary idiot boxes with like 5 exclusive games worth playing each.

>>389060221
>a kirby game that's just a rebuild of a GCN kirby game and a bunch of knockoff Japcrap rpgs, all of which could have been played on a Gamecube, make the Wii the unloved dark horse of its gen
Lmao, this delusion.

>>389060221
>It also had a lot of RPGs which the Gamecube was lacking.
What the fuck?
Wii has what, The Last Story and Xenoblade?
GC has two Baten Kaitos games, Skies of Arcadia Legends, TTYD, FF Crystal Chronicles, Lost Kingdoms, Tales of Symphonia, Colosseum and Gale of Darkness, and I'm sure I'm forgetting others.
GC has way better JRPGs than Wii

>>389060349
>not even being able to play games you previously bought.
do you own a Switch by any chance?

>>389060557
I don't buy fischer price toys. I'm not 5.

>>389060458
>Wii has what, The Last Story and Xenoblade?
Arc Rise Fantasia
FF Chrystal Chronicles: The crystal bearers
FF Chrystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time
Dokapon Kingdom
Chocobo's Dungeon
Tales of Graces
Shiren the Wanderer
DQ Swords
FE Radiant Dawn
Rune Factory Frontier
Phantom Brave
Spectrobes Origins
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World

>>389061650
>Spectrobes Origins
>Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
Really nigga?

>>389061713
Really what?

>>389061650
>Tales of Graces
Was made obsolete by Tales of Graces f on PS3 like a year later.

>>389061650
>Arc Rise Fantasia
Literally who
>FF Chrystal Chronicles: The crystal bearers
>FF Chrystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time
Actual shit
>Dokapon Kingdom
Actual shit
>Chocobo's Dungeon
Knockoff FF shit
>DQ Swords
Actual shit
>FE Radiant Dawn
Might as well have been a CGN game
>Phantom Brave
Literally who
>Spectrobes Origins
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
Didn't everyone hate this?

>>389061836
DotNW is considered to be vastly inferior to the original and Spectrobes isn't even good.

>>389042526
Too be fair backwards compatibility holds x86 PC's back, although autistic dedication towards backwards compatibility is ironically why the PC succeeded and every other computer failed. Every attempt to move onto something else (PS/2, Itanium) fails because the market and government demands that everything be compatible with their ancient hardware from the 80's and 90's and refuse to upgrade.

>>389061958
>>389061901
>>389061836
>>389061713
It's to be expected of neo-/v/ that they would do the
>shit
>shit
>shit
Thing when they've run out of arguments.

I mean look here
>Might as well have been a CGN game
What does this even mean?
That's like saying all of the GC games don't count for the GC because you can play them on the Wii as well.

>>389062215
You didn't refute the Tales of Graces argument at all.

>>389060445
Hold on a minute, if it's a good game on the Wii that the GC doesn't have then how is that good for the GC?

not even to play smash bros melee? casual

>>389039472
>I don't use something therefor nobody does

>>389062295
What needs to be argued exactly?
F's existence doesn't suddenly erase the Wii version from existence.

>>389039472
t. Sonybro

>>389059815
Nah dude, the GC library was barebones as fuck compared to the Wii.
Sure there was a lot of shovelware on it but there were far better games on it.

>>389062842
F is so much better than the vanilla version that no one in their right mind would pick vanilla. And F came out really quickly after the original.

The fact that I have 6 consoles plugged into my tv is bullshit.
It would be great if every console was BC

>>389063072
That doesn't refute the argument at all.
The game still exists on the Wii does it not?

>>389062914
A sonybro wouldn't own a Wii U, retard

>>389062518
Why would I play Melee over Smash 4?

>>389039472
I had to, I started buying my own games at the age of 10, so I had to sell my console and games to get the new one.

also, i do use backward compatibility on different consoles, because it's a hassle to break out the old console to play my games, I don't have tons of space to have all consoles hooked up to my monitor, also there is the picture quality, I use a A/V converter to hdmi to connect my old consoles to the monitor and they look atrocious, old games run on newer consoles make the games look sharper and colorful, so it's another advantage of having bakwards compatibility.

kinda like the mini nes classic, I have original NES and cartridges but they look terrible on the monitor using the converter, the mini nes classic on the other hands makes the games look great.

>>389062325
It goes to show how gimped the Wii was. Hell, the Wii kirby game didn't even have the new elements that the GCN beta was trying to do.

>>389063540
And what does that have to do with the conversation of libraries?

>>389063460
>old games run on newer consoles make the games look sharper and colorful,
They do? I've never really noticed improvements on Wii and GC games on Wii U

>>389062914
Nintendo doesn't have backwards compatibility either dumbass. Only Xbox does.

>>389063648
Gee I don't know, you want to just concede every other argument or are you just gonna pretend the rest of the points I brought up are invalid so you can autistically fixate on one Kirby game?
One kirby game doesn't make the entire Wii library you know, and the library was only one of several big complaints.

>>389039472
Right who gives a shit about backwards compatibility when you can emulate the games much better on PC?

>>389063835
Okay, one I'm not the anon you were talking to in the first place.
Two, you're the only one focusing on the Kirby game in particular when that anon also listed the Galaxies and the RPGs on the Wii
Three, I'm only asking how it's relevant when you're talking about libraries. You weren't in an argument about power so bringing up the capabilities of the system or what the game does is entirely irrelevant to the conversation.

What is relevant though is that it's a game on the Wii and the GC doesn't have anything equivalent or better than it.
Jesus, the whole neo-/v/ thing sure is true isn't it.

>>389039738
You know Nintendo removed every first party rom from Emuparadise? Where am I supposed to get ROMs without dealing with viruses and ads.

>>389063835
>and the library was only one of several big complaints.
To retards maybe.

>>389064490
Well if that's the argument you're going with then you can't pirate Wii and GC games on Wii U either.

I only ever played Metroid Prime on my Wii. It was a nice workaround from having to buy a fucking overpriced Gamecube component cable.

>>389064808
See, only latefags care about it.

>>389065186
And people with limited space for their systems.

>>389065448
Stop being poor and get a bigger house

>>389065186
Owned it from the GCN launch but the Wii let me play it in progressive scan.

>>389065493
Guess that confirms that only retards see no worth in BC.

>>389064490
It'll be impossible for you, genetic engineering isn't advanced enough to fix your retardation.

>>389065582
Pretty sure you could do that on GC

>>389065626
Explain.

>>389065739
Yeah with $150-$300 component cables.

>>389065851
What the fuck are you talking about? When I would start any GC game it would ask if I wanted to play in progressive scan mode

>>389040573
Wrong.

>>389039472
If someone skips a generation, buying the new console will give them more money than buying a used one. I skipped the PS2, but when the fat ps3 (rip) had full support for it, I bought it for that alone.

>>389039472
>I never used my Wii to play GC games
I never owned a GC, but I did own a Wii.
I never played Wii games on my Wii. Wii had no fucking games. Gamecube was where it's at.
If you aren't already an idort, it sweetens the deal. It makes a huge difference on a handheld too.

>>389066915
People who skip a gen don't deserve to play that gen's games.

>>389055830
>dropping the main thing PC has over consoles
are you retarded?

>>389067389
Buying 3 (or 4 in the case of 6th gen specifically) consoles and keeping all of them for the past 2 or 3 gens isn't practical for most people.

>>389067316
>Wii had no fucking games.
Because you chose not to play them.

>>389039472
>Are you all so fucking poor that you have to sell your old consoles when you buy a new one?
No, we just don't like having to swap our cables around if we want to play an older game, and just having a Wii and PS2 out looks neater than having a Gamecube, Wii, PS1 AND PS2 out. Backwards compatibility is convenient and reduces clutter.

>>389039472
>not transforming you Wii into a playall machine for PS1 downwards and GC
nigga you ain't living your life correctly

>>389068458
PS1 ran like crap on Wii last I tried

>>389068458
Original hardware will always play it better.

>>389044204
Gamecube and Wii weren't perfectly emulated until a month ago. Metroid Prime 2 and other games were stuttering messes because of the shaders used.

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>>389039472
> never had consoles before (just didnt buy em or some young lad)
> buy your first one in 2017
> hear about this awesome game that is in eveyone's top 100, a must play
> cant play it because it requires previous generation console

>>389068678
>Gamecube and Wii weren't perfectly emulated until a month ago
What is this 2010?

>>389068661
It depends. PS1 emulation is pretty much perfect, but newer consoles have patchier support.

>>389068760
That's me, never played RDR and still can't

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Your point is that you didn't do it so no one can. Also you hate poor people who skipped or sold a console just because. Wew

>>389069943
>Also you hate poor people
Doesn't everyone?

>>389055948
>I generally prefer to buy a console with BC than a console without BC.
so you don't own a Switch, right?

So is OP just being a adamant shill by negatively replying to everyone who offers a reasonable point for backwards comparability?

>>389071153
>by negatively replying to everyone who offers a reasonable point
isn't that what we do here on /v/?

>>389070831
What is it with you idiots and thinking in absolutes?

>>389071790
Is that yes or no?

>>389071871
I'm not that anon, I'm calling you up on being retarded.
And even if he does that doesn't invalidate his argument seeing as he doesn't dismiss consoles if they lack it.

>>389072360
Ah, so when PS4 doesn't include BC then Sony is literally the devil but when Switch doesn't have it its okay because muh Nintendo. Glad you cleared all that up.

>>389072459
Again with the god damn absolutes.
The guy says he prefers a console to have BC, that doesn't mean he won't buy a console that doesn't have it if there are enough games to warrant a purchase.

>>389072791
>if there are enough games to warrant a purchase.
On Switch? lol

>>389071871
t. idiot sith

>>389072830
Jesus Christ, why don't we have a containment board for you Sonygro yet?

>>389073065
It has like 3 exclusives so far and one of them is rabbids garbage

>>389039472
BC would make me actually hustle to buy a new console. I have the games, but playing them on their own consoles can really become a chore with their parts failing over time.

>>389068897
>still can't play RDR
>bc on the xbone

You can literally buy a pos og xbone for $75 on craigslist if you really want to play it. Also the performance is better compared to the 360.

Not saying you should do it, but it's an option.

I don't own a WiiU or a PS3.
If Switch or PS4 had proper backwards compatiblity I think I would have bought them by now.

>>389075159
But Wii U and PS3 have BC, why didn't you get them if it matters so much?

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>>389039472
>doesn't care about BC
>buys remakes, remasters, re-releases and collections

>>389075805
>want to buy Dead Island DLC
>literally cheaper to pick up the PS4 remaster than to buy the DLC on PS3
They aren't always bad
Also
>double posting

>>389075280
I have a Wii so that was less of a concern for the Wii U. Same with PS3 and PS2, also I don't think PS3 does have true backwards compatiblity.

And I think that's a pretty unfair comparison considering both the Wii and the PS2 were super popular, especially compared to their successors, so less people missed out on them and offering their games via backwards compatiblity has less value.