>/v/ tells me to buy a PS4 >k, go out and buy one >set

Just verify your licenses retard, its literally in the options menus

>>389031504
Are you in special ed or something?

>>389031504
I have never seen this pop-up before. Are you family sharing?

>>389031848
But why can they do this, why does the PS4 operating system have this function?
>>389031930
No, literally just set it up and made the account.

>>389031504
>>/v/ tells me to buy a PS4
The PS3 was amazing. But I've always shat on the PS4 hard.

>>389032052
Game sharing requires an Internet connection and any blips on your side or Sonys server causes this message. That's why it waits 15 mins before doing anything.

>tfw the sony police find out you've been gaming without a license

>Xbox is the only console without drm
Loving every laugh

>>389031504
I think he bought a used ps4, tried to play the original owner's games, and since original owner delinked the ps4 he can no longer verify the game but still wants to play it.

>>389031504
nigga are you british? lmao

>>389032261
beat me to it, I was gonna ask if OP paid his HM's Cuck Licence this week

>>389032185
Its also the only console without a single video game

>>389032261
>>389032306
>license

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>>389032127
>the ps3 was amazing

>>389032306
>his HM's
>his her majesty's's

>>389032218
I bought the PS4 and it came with games, I should be able to continue using them. Sony is stealing from me, and I will report it to the appropriate ombudsman.

>>389031504
it only happens if you're using the sharing function

>>389032454

i hope you win

>poor people have to game share

Lmao

>>389032218
It's was a new, sealed PS4.

You've done some next level retard shit, OP. I've never once seen this message

>>389032454
What you are saying is something like: I bought a second hand PC from someone that had his steam account logged in, have been playing his games. Then he changed his password and you are now complaining you can no longer play your "games you got with it".

No, OP. Someone else bought those games in their account.

I have a day 1 launch ps4 and this has never happened. What did you did?

>>389032673
>>389032558
>>389032516
>b-but it only happens if X
That's not the problem you fucks.

The PS4 apparently has a built in way to not allow you to play a game if Sony so desires, that's the real problem. They could stop you from playing your games whenever they felt like it and for some reason nobody is complaining about this?

>>389032746
>what is steam

Lol try harder

>>389032746
Brand loyalist cucks will defend anything

>>389032746
>The PS4 has a built-in way to not allow you to play a game you don't own

>>389032746
This is a thing on all platforms.

>>389032808
It also has a built in way to not allow you to play a game you do own.

Ok, but what game?

Whatever happened to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

>>389032746
name a single platform this gen that cant also do that.

>>389032712
i think he might mean physical games, not digital purchases

>>389032859
He wont have an answer because this is a false flag thread

>>389032841
Such as?

>>389032841
>it's okay when steam does it

>>389032746
You could replace Sony with Steam or Microsoft and the sentence would still be valid
In fact, Steam removed a shitton of games cutting people off content they paid for
>>389032841
literally not true unless you present proofs

>>389032746
>The PS4 apparently has a built in way to not allow you to play a game if Sony so desires, that's the real problem.
Microsoft and Nintendo can disable their consoles as well if they want to, the last 2 generations of console have had this functionality.

Find an instance of Sony or MS doing it though, I'll wait.

>>389032841
Huh, kind of like steam, microsoft and nintendo

>>389032941
>In fact, Steam removed a shitton of games cutting people off content they paid for
Did they actually remove things from people's libraries? I know they stopped selling some games on the store, but I thought you could still download them.

>>389032352
As opposed to Playstation 4, the console with one (1) game

>>389032918
this doesn't happen on physical games (as the disk is verified) or online store-bought ones (license files are downloaded to the console)

>>389032993
This isnt a thing anymore. You gotta find a new argument now

It's okay when Sony does it

>>389032976
Steam, Microsoft and Nintendo got shit on thanks to it, yet Sony gets away for free.

>>389032976
The only thing preventing you from playing games on Nintendo is it's own library

>>389032985
>Did they actually remove things from people's libraries? I know they stopped selling some games on the store, but I thought you could still download them.
No, I own Alan Wake and while it's not for sale anymore I can still install it.

I wonder if anyone bought Too Human on Xbox 360 digitally and lost the ability to play it when Epic won the lawsuit and got the game taken down from Xbox.

>>389032746
Don't try to deflect the blame here, you can apply that logic to anything, pretty much every company has the access to terminate your service to anything at will if they feel like it, but they won't unless they feel they have a legitimate reason. When has anyone here in this thread just got their lights cut out, their steam account games blocked from being played or anything like that without majorly trying to do something to scam the company first?

>>389032918
I don't think so, that warning is for digital games, someone brought a very valid point that it must be someone else's account who bought and installed those games on the PS4. But he's trying to deflect the blame to "wow don't you see the true evil here, Sony can just stop me from playing the games at will, how is this allowed!"

>>389032976
This. OP wanted a sony chimp out. 0/10 thread

>>389032143
>he didn't buy a gamer's license XD

>>389033103
And he got it, considering people are defending it.

>>389032442
>british grammar school education

>>389032454
OP says he bought the game, nice try.

>>389033159
All i see are people saying this can happen on any platform.

did you pay extra for those games, OP

did the seller mention or demonstrate their inclusion (and didn't warn you that they're tied to his account)?

>>389033176
He didn't if that message popped up for him, it will never pop up on a disc based game and it will only pop up on a downloaded title if you don't have your PS4 activated as your primary system. Like the PS3, Xbox 360, and Xbox One, when you activate the system as your "primary" digital games do not need an internet connection to be played.

>Sony refuses to give us a way to actually change our PSN usernames
>Sony refuses to give the PS4 backwards compatibility
>Sony raises the prices of PS+

>/v/ will defend this

WHAT GAME??????

>>389033176
I feel like OP is actually lying here, basically talking about how VAC "unfairly banned him". It's simple, OP just has to give us the full story here to clear some things up. Tell us what game and what circumstances he bought them from.

He's getting an error for a very specific thing and telling us very little of the story, instead shifiting the blame to the company for "having too much power". Come on, OP. If you really think Sony is in the wrong here, give us the full story.

>>389032985
I do remember one multiplayer-only game got removed from people's accounts because the game's servers were shut down

>>389032746
It's a good feature, they put that there to protect the gamers. Sorry if you don't want to be protected and play the best graphics.

>>389033176
OP says he bought a PS4 WITH games
which most likely means someone left their account on their console and deactivated it later on, stopping OP from playing games that aren't owned by him
that doesn't happen with games you buy yourself

>>389033258
its a false flag

>>389033176
Is pretending OPs tell the truth a dank new meme? It's a classic structure.
>wow I just got VAC banned for no reason
>100 posts later: well, I was wallhacking a little bit, but only ever with friends, mostly

>>389032985
Only one I can think out of my head is codename gordon. You can still install it but it doesn't show up in your library. I think it came as a freebie with some half-life game anyway.

>>389033315
>It's a falseflag because I say it is
How rich.

F-False flag!

>>389031504
>implying Sony would actually do this
Fuck off retard

>>389033253
>Sony refuses to give us a way to actually change our PSN usernames
who the fuck actually cares about this
>Sony refuses to give the PS4 backwards compatibility
literally impossible due to PS3's retarded architecture
>Sony raises the prices of PS+
shit move, but all in all, skip two cheeseburgers a year and it's not an issue

>>389033354
Well what game then?

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>Falling for the PS4 meme

>>389033289
Battleforge, yeah

>>389033301
No, read it again.

>>389033385
You're proving his point you know.

>>389033389
JUST HATE SONY ALREADY

>>389033402
I love that the xbone guy is a spic

>>389032891
GOG

>>389033253
>>/v/ will defend this
no, it's the main reason I don't have any next-gen console thus far, and I have a gut feeling that I'd sell them after playing the handful of games that I'd be interested in playing because there's no way I intend to be tied down to pay for online.

>>389031504
Also OP is deflecting and/or not answering relevant questions to his predicament and is likely to be a faggot

>>389033301
The OP says he bought a PS4 and then bought "a random game from the PSN Store to test things out." He's at least pretending he personally purchased the game just now, but that's an absurd situation so you know it's bullshit.
>buy a system without getting any games
>buy a "random" game to test it out, as if you had no idea what you might want to play on this system when buying it
>also, what the fuck is there to test out?
Something's a lie. Most likely what he was testing out was some random PSN game he saw already on there.

pm'd you the fix :^)

>>389033517
Are you telling me you don't buy random games for no reason?

>>389033385
>defending PS+
What a gay.
>skip two cheeseburgers a year and it's not an issue
And then on the PS5 it'll be "just skip a burger a week so you can afford the controller license that allows you to use your controllers."

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>80 replies
>still wont say what game

I just renewed my yearly video game license so this doesn't happen.

>>389033438
but that's literally the only way he'd get this message
physical games don't check for license online due to everything being on-disc
store-bought games download license files so that they can be played offline
>>389033449
i just don't feel like $5 or 10 more a year makes a dent in my budget

>>389033402
>Buying consoles for playing video games

Let's be honest, you buy a console if you are too retarded to do research and build an actual computer. At least when it comes to video games. It's like watching movies on your cellphone "because it's simpler and faster" instead of bothering to have a proper setup.

Look, I don't wanna sound too "PC Master Race", but looking at this entire generation of consoles, it's very hard to justify the purchase of any of em. I have a PS4 because I wanted a blu-ray player and media center device on my TV, also because I wanted to try out Persona 5, but notice how the video game aspect of it was almost irrelevant.

PC has a shitload of games, PC has a shitload of ways to customize or mod those games, it has many other uses outside of video games. Seriously, can someone on this thread who bought a console instead of a PC simply tell me, why? Is there any other reason than "you were too lazy to do better?"

Wtf i love sony now

>>389031504
Make sure your PS4 is activated as "your primary PS4" in the options, if you do it allows you to play store bought games and DLC offline. Otherwise you have to be always online for it to work.

>>389033702
$5 or 10
It's $60. That's a whole extra AAA-game you could be getting per year instead of giving a tip on your internet bill.

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>>389031504
>/v/ tells me to buy a PS4
>k, go out and buy one

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>>389033385
>>shit move, but all in all, skip two cheeseburgers a year and it's not an issue
You're forgetting how Sony convinced themselves that people would just work harder so they can afford a PS3.

What game?

>>389033823
A random one from psn

>>389033449
Not that anon, but yea. It just depends on your personal preferences anyway. I mean changing username should be basic feature, but I don't have any need for that. I've ps3 and bunch of other consoles so I don't need backwards compatibility. But I can understand why people would want that.

for the price of ps+. I'm not paying for ps+, so it doesn't matter to me. some dollar price increase is less of a problem than having to pay for that shit in the first place if you want to play online.

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>>389032871
>implying you still can't do this
>implying buying games used isn't the best way to buy games

Wtf i bought a playstation and some random unknown game and i keep dying, WHY IS SONY DOING THIS TO ME?

>>389033807
as i said, i just don't feel like that impacts my budget. not gonna cry over $5 a month since i'm doing pretty well money-wise

>>389032454
>budsman
DUDE
U
D
E

>tfw playing vidya without a licence
>knock on the door
>its the vidya police
>we need to check your license
>i dont have one
>they take me to video game jail
>get beat up and raped
>still have 2 years on my sentence

Im not gonna make it bros

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>>389033253
>Sony refuses to give us a way to actually change our PSN usernames
>not having the perfect username in the first place

>Sony refuses to give the PS4 backwards compatibility
>not having a last gen console for last gen games

>Sony raises the prices of PS+
>paying for PS+ when you can get it for free anyway

>>389034108
>Proving his point
wew lad

>>389032185
>>389032352
>Xbox is the only console without drm

Explain?

>>389031504
Activate your account on ps4 to play your games offline without that shit, dumb fag

>>389033965
I get the concept since I'm subscribed to way too many things, but they're all at least providing me actual content. I don't generally think much about PS+ since I don't do much online on my PS4, but in principle it's ridiculous. I already pay a lot of money for my internet. What am I paying Sony $5 every month I want to play Tetris over it?

>>389034167
don't bother, he's retarded.

>>389033704
>Let's be honest, you buy a console if you are too retarded to do research and build an actual computer
I bought all the consoles and built my own desktop, checkmate.

>>389032052
>being a console peasant
>surprised when they over reach

>buy pc
>have to build it myself
Wtf

>>389033253
>>Sony refuses to give the PS4 backwards compatibility
It's okay when Nintendo does it

>>389034334
You can actually download a shit load of ps3 games on ps4 tho

>>389032403
>ps1/ps2 backwards compatibility
>free online
>decent game library after no games meme fell out of relevancy
maybe saying "amazing" is reaching it, but it sure as hell was better than the absolutely pathetic offering that is ps4, where you can really see sony's confidence in remaining a market leader shine through

Welcome to the modern era you fucking retard. Any device connected to the internet using a service can have your shit disabled remotely.

Even if you use a disc, they can ban you at a console/hardware level and prevent you from doing anything on that device anymore.

You have never ""owned"" the shit you buy, but the internet makes it easier to take it from you.

>/v/ tells me to buy a PS4

Why did anyone read anything in this thread after the first line?

>>389034334
>Cartridge vs disc drive
>b-but nintendo

>>389034263
I'm saying it's not really worth it for the price you pay when compared to a PC. If you have the money to buy everything though, it's your own money so go ahead.

>>389034334
None of the companies do backwards compatibility all that well. The reality is if you
wanna play anything up to PS2 era, it's very easy to emulate, ESPECIALLY Nintendo.

If you make the PS4 compatible with PS3 games and some PS2 games for download or whatever, what happens when the PS5 rolls around? Or PS6? I feel like backwards compatibility will be all over the place for different systems from different systems in every generation, but if you just emulate that shit, you can have one central system that you
can get the games from every generation, from every company.

>>389034372
>Download
*rent

>>389032454
Top retard

>>389034554
Oh you mean just like all steam games

>>389034492
They could've made a disc based system but they didn't
Sony could've made a system with similar internals to PS3, they didn't
It's literally the same situation

>>389034402
What went wrong with the PS4?

>>389032746
Sony is my fucking friend, they'd never do that, okay? FUCK OFF! SONY IS FOR THE PLAYERS!

>>389034580
Exactly.

>>389034702
It really isn't. A more fitting example would be the PSP to the Vita, considering they're entirely different formats.

>>389033704
>I have a PS4 because I wanted a blu-ray player and media center device on my TV, also because I wanted to try out Persona 5, but notice how the video game aspect of it was almost irrelevant.
>I bought a PS4 for the features they advertised and a game, BUT THE GAME IS NOT IMPORTANT
Dude, eat shit. I'm all about the Master Race meme, but honestly a console is worth it for some people. Yes, my PC is my area of choice when gaming, but fuck, being able to play multiplayer games on my couch with my wife is fucking neato.

>>389034543
>I'm saying it's not really worth it for the price you pay when compared to a PC
I don't agree, obviously I prefer playing multiplatforms on PC as I have a 6700K and 1080Ti but the price I paid for my custom desktop was more than all 3 current-gen consoles combined.

>>389034704
Sony offering a pathetically weak system barely more powerful than the PS3 to begin with.
With most of its games having been developed for the PS3 or even outright being PS3 games. Making the upgrade completely unnecessary to begin with outside of Sony's desire for even more money.
While offering a worse service and suddenly charging annual fees for core hardware features in spite of the consumers already having paid for said hardware.

The PS4 is a fucking shitshow m8. Not even that guy.

>>389035204
The price up front is always higher, but when it comes to a cost over time, especially considering cheaper game prices on PC, it always ends up being more worth it. Building a hell of a PC is super expensive, upgrading your video card every few years is not.

>>389035191
1 Game. That's the key thing here. If I had to list all the games I want to play on PS4 it wouldn't go for a few lines. Bloodborne is another cool one. And I know a console is "worth it to some people", but I'm really curious as to why. You just gave an interesting reason, playing multiplayer games on the couch with your wife. I agree entirely, but then again, I'd be limited to playing PS4 games if I did that. So I just hooked an HDMI cable from my PC to my TV as well. Now I can enjoy a shitload more games on couch. And with a controller too, you get to choose your favorite one as well.

>>389031504
enjoying your drm machine?

>>389035475
How did it succeed?

>>389034402
>/ps2 backwards
For the original models otherwise you have to deal with those shitty PS2 Classics.

>>389035523
>The price up front is always higher, but when it comes to a cost over time, especially considering cheaper game prices on PC
It's much higher, and PC game sales are not nearly as good as they used to be. You also assume that every console game stays $60 for ever, which is not true at all. Physical games depreciate more than digital copies generally and I've purchased many console releases this gen for less than $20.
>Building a hell of a PC is super expensive, upgrading your video card every few years is not.
That's literally the only reason to game on the PC, to have the best experience possible. If you're going to compromise on performance you're no better than a consolefag.
>1 Game. That's the key thing here. If I had to list all the games I want to play on PS4 it wouldn't go for a few line
That's because you're a faggot afraid to try new games and leave your comfort zone. There are tons of good games on the PS4 and the system is cheap as shit now. I buy everything because I love video games too much to get hung up over a few hundred bucks or petty platform loyalty.

>>389035475
>Sony offering a pathetically weak system barely more powerful than the PS3 to begin with.
you have no clue what you're talking about
PS3 has TWO FUCKING HUNDRED FIFTY SIX megabytes of ram. Saying that PS4 is 'barely more powerful' is fucking dumb

>>389035724
It did fucking terribly in Asian territories. With the PS3 counterparts outselling the PS4 versions for quite some time at first.

In the western world though? People saw Microsoft shitting themselves, and were thus completely blinded at how Sony had nothing good to show either. And then it became the "cool" thing to have in the living room for casuals and normalfags. And for some reason that worked. People even sold their PS3s to purchase PS4s in spite of the PS4 not being backwards compatible and having fucking nothing to show for at the time.
They even started paying for online play.

>>389035204
That PC will beat or match consoles for 15 years, at least. You also paid the new hardware premium. Buying midrange parts is a better value and still beats consoles.

>>389035475
PS4 pro is the most powerful console EVER made. Sony won, baby

>>389032403
As someone who always has had a PC this is true. PS3 non-PC library was amazing, PS4 non-PC library is like five games.

>>389035963
>PS3 has TWO FUCKING HUNDRED FIFTY SIX megabytes of ram. Saying that PS4 is 'barely more powerful' is fucking dumb
Yeah, the difference honestly isn't close at all. Games on both usually run at twice the framerate and twice the resolution on PS4, and then current-gen exclusive games like Horizon are so far beyond what the PS3 ever could have done.

Yakuza 0 / Kiwami for example runs at 1024x768 at 30fps on PS3, while on PS4 it's 1920x1080 at 60fps. MGSV is the same way, sub-720p and below 30fps on PS3 while 1080p and 60fps on PS4.

>>389036025
>It did fucking terribly in Asian territories.

Why?

>>389036141
Because Asia isn't EAsports central like Europe is

>>389036060
>That PC will beat or match consoles for 15 years, at least.
bullshit, sure it'll be better than the Xbox One X and any console for probably the next 5 years, but there's no way it'll be better than consoles for 15 years. 15 years is a really long fucking time when it comes to CPU/GPU development.

That said, in 15 years I'll have a whole new computer anyway.

>>389036141
It didn't, PS4 outsell Wii U and shitch in asia as well as western, ignore shitposter

>>389032976
WELL IN THAT CASE I GUESS ITS COMPLETELY FINE

>>389036264
I have had my PC for 7 years and it still plays new games. It wasn't high end when I bought it and I only paid 1k.

How did the Switch beat the PS4?

I have only had something like this happen to maybe 2 out of the infinite things I stream to my ps4 media server from my torrent app. All it will do is say "this is not an official file and will be muted".
I'll just pull up a different fIle type like mkv or somthing and it'll stream fine.

>>389036321
says the shitposter.

go shitpost in another thread. we're having actual conversation here.

>>389036479
So, a PC from 2010? Not a high end one at that?
What is it then, GTX460 and first-generation i5 or core 2 quad?
That won't even reach 'console quality' in new games

>>389036598
fuck off with your consolewar shit.

>>389036479
>I have had my PC for 7 years and it still plays new games.
And if it were 15 years old you would be running at best a Radeon 9700 Pro. That card wasn't even better than the GPU in the PS3 and 360.

>>389035523
>So I just hooked an HDMI cable from my PC to my TV as well.
I'm not going to trail a 20 foot HDMI cable from our office to our living room.

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>>389032352

>>389036729
Yep, I love gaming on a PC and generally prefer it to consoles, which is why I spent $700 on a video card. It's still stupid though to pretend that a computer that old and mid-range is capable of playing new shit at any respectable level.

>>389031504
>/v/ tells me to buy a PS4
So you listened to the sonygros... GREAT.

>>389036806
There are HDMI to network cable adapters.

>>389031504
Y'know XBox doesn't have this problem. You can even just sign on to someone else's XBox and download and play any games you own on your account.

Sorry you listened to all the neogaf shills.

>>389036321
The Wii U did better than the PS4 in Japan.

>>389031504
>>389032052
Steam does this too if you go offline and online again, i had it happen to me once around 2013 or so, it kicked me out because it thought i was using a software i didnt own.

Also this has never happen to me on the PS4, this usually happens when you are using a secondary account and someone else starts playing it.

Actually that is similar to how Steam familiy share works too.

>>389036729
Console quality it's medium, 540p and 30fps so yeah it does that.
>>389036770
Consoles don't jump like they used to. Ps4 and xbox one were trash when they released.

>>389036998
that's exactly what gamesharing is on PS4
it's just that OP bought a used console with someone's account and games still on it, and that person deactivated the console later on, rendering OP unable to play those games

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>>389037163
>pay $1000
>get 540p 30fps

PC "MASTER RACE"

>>389037095
nice source

>>389036943
>HDMI
They are unacceptable for some of the game I play on the console.
At what point will I have spent enough money to make it worthwile when I could just have a console?

>>389036909
Consoles have mobile hardware and they are the standard for game development so I don't see why it is so hard to believe.

>>389033704
This post is dumb on so many levels. I'll have you know son that once you are older and played a ton of games, you start to only care about the new stuff. And buying a console is much, much cheaper than upgrading a PC. It's not like the PC gets any worthwhile exclusives anyway. Just look up the Steam charts: the most played game is an affront to gaming itself!

And don't give me that spiel about computers being able to do more. Anything a computer can do, so can my phone. And my phone does in my pocket.

There's just no point in having a PC anymore.

>>389037163
>Console quality it's medium, 540p and 30fps so yeah it does that.
the lowest resolution game on the PS4 is 720p and it runs at 60fps. The vast majority of PS4 games are 1080p running at 30fps.

540p 30fps is below Switch quality, jesus christ

>>389032746
>PC has a function to close your internet browser
Guys Toshiba has the power to not allow you to browse the Internet if Toshiba so desires

>>389037248
I actually play most games at 1080p with medium or high settings. My pc will at least last until the end puff this gen, I have never paid for online play and I never pay more than $20 for games.

>>389037163
'standard' PS4 game is 1080p30, so try that instead

>>389037352
I was being facetious.
>>389037415

What did the PS4 do right?

>>389038289
Yakuza games

>>389038289
Nothing.

>>389038289
price
design
having better hardware than its competition
investment in exclusive games

>>389038289
Sold 60 mil

>>389038289
It raped the Wii U and that let me enjoy the salty tears of Nintendo fans for several years

>>389032052
PS3 had the same thing too for PS+ games. If you haven't connected online in a long time, the game will refuse to boot until you activate the license again by connecting online.

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>>389038406
Nothing at all?

>>389038463
Delete this

>>389038609
Not at all.

>>389037275
Wow, a guy who says "there's no point in having a PC anymore" is saying my post is dumb on so many levels, that's impressive.

Do you really think there is nothing a computer can do a tiny bit better than your fucking phone? And becoming older means you suddenly only care about "new games"? Because that sounds like being an impulsive child to me, buying a console and the latest $60 releases as opposed to having a decent library of older good stuff on an actual computer. Who the fuck even cares about the Steam Charts? Jesus christ everything about your post makes me think you are the exact kind of retard I'm criticizing, the guy too lazy to put any thought into anything, so he just buys the latest CoD on PS4 and the latest iPhone and thinks that's all he needs.

Can your phone video edit properly? Is your phone a good thing for processing any form of document? From presentations to writing documents, working on Excel, doing your taxes, in fact, is there literally anything your phone does that isn't a dumbed down version of something a computer has done better for about a decade?

I'll have YOU know, "son" that when you get older, you'll stop caring about what's "most popular" and the "new stuff" and spend money on things you enjoy. And when you get wiser, you'll know to do your own research and upgrade things properly.

>still hasnt said what game

Hm boils my peanuts

>>389033289

Nosgoth didnt get removed but the servers are permanently shut down

Also the people who bought the 200 dollar founder packs didnt get refunds lol

>>389038459
>having better hardware than its competition

Xbox One X?

>>389033389
the game

>>389035924
As for you, are you for real either? There are more cheap and good Steam games that you can possibly play in your lifetime, right now. I don't get the whole "much much higher cost for computers". There's a huge up front investment, but after you get one your computer will last you for years if you built it well at max quality, if you just care about "medium" quality like on a console and just want to run shit, you will have that shit for years. Sure, $1400 sounds like a lot of money, but when you realize you will be getting at the very least 5 years worth of max quality for that price, it suddenly sounds like nothing. And after that, it's not like you have to scrap your computer and toss it.

I'm definitely open to new games, but let's be real here, steam has an almost endless catalog of games by itself, games from every generation. While every console will probably have not even 10 amazing console exclusives. The key here is that most of these great games are already on PC. If you really wanna go down this route, fine.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/ps4/metascore

For every one of these PS4 exclusive games, there are like 5 also on the PS4 I can play on my PC much better. You say you "buy everything because you love video games". I do too, I'm absolutely not platform loyal, but at the end of the day I'll always get the most value out of it by picking it up on Steam. In fact I have played most of the top PS4 games listed here already. And for the few I haven't, I will purchase them.

If you really wanna keep going I can go into length about how my PC I bought in 2009 lasted me almost into 2017 with most of it's components except switching out the graphics card and a minor RAM update. People who complain about upgrading too often are also idiots who cheap out on their PC and then the entire thing is outdated too soon.

>>389032052
You're asking why does PS4, a console that came out three years ago, has the same functionality as steam, a platform that came out 14 years ago?

Are you retarded?

>>389035924
>PC game sales are not nearly as good as they used to be

Which is why sites like G2A exist now and allow me to get AAA 60 burgerflap titles for like 27 dollars and like 30 dollar titles for 7 dollars and so on

>>389039056
The Xbox One X is launching after 4 years of the PS4 having better hardware than the Xbox One.
>As for you, are you for real either?
Yes, I am for real. New games don't get the kind of discounts on Steam now that they did 5 years ago.
>Sure, $1400 sounds like a lot of money, but when you realize you will be getting at the very least 5 years worth of max quality for that price
The kind of person that spends $1400 on a computer isn't going to be happy playing on low or medium settings in 5 years. (myself included)

I'm not even really complaining about the cost of PC gaming, I went with a 6700K, 1080Ti, and 1TB SSD because I wanted a good experience and was willing to pay it. I just think the price argument is wildly inaccurate unless you're compromising your experience the way you describe. You should never have to play games at 30fps on a PC. On a console it's the bargain we accept to play games not available anywhere else.

Who wins, Steam or PS4?

>>389039873
Steam although PSN sales are actually decent now compared to last gen. I buy most console games on Amazon though as I prefer physical releases.

>>389037273
>They are unacceptable for
Sure, buddy.

>>389040123
>playing fighting games and wipeout like games with added lag from a wireless video connection
You're a fucking idiot.

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This thread really woke me up on sonybros and how delusional and defensive they can get.

set your account as primary account

I've seen this with titles I've got from PSN. Arc the Lad and Rogue Galaxy. It pops up every now and then but it has never done anything or stopped my games? I assumed it was just a flicker of my internet cutting out. I don't know if they actually stop games, but it never happened to me. Unless it actually does stop one for you, I wouldn't worry.

You fucking lying faggot I do the same with a friend(share accounts) and when I lost net connection I've to restart the licences.
If you had your psn account linked ONLY with ps4 this thread would be pointless

>>389041335
You missed the gamepad VS mouse in FPS yesterday, was even more brutal than this.