>SSDs are now mandatory for modern gaming as games get bigger

>I don't know anything about computers

>>389013942
>zero-loading time
Sadly still no, which is sad as hell. Also you're a faggot.

only if they're unoptimized early access pieces of shit fotm shootans on Steam. I still use a HDD for games like a normal person.

eh, I literally invested in another 7200RPM enteprise grade HDD today, it's "slow" but it does what I need, an SSD of the same capacity is much more expensive, it's very reliable. A few seconds of loading is not at all a hindrance to me vs instant SSD loads, developers often make nice loading screens and in multiplayer you can only load as fast as the slowest person's computer anyway.

>>389013942
only shitty games like wolfensteins are that size and the graphics arent even great desu

>>389013942
you mean hdds right
sdds are really fucking small for the price
the highest gb ssd you can get for a semi reasonable price is 500gb
that's only like 8-9 60gb games (which sadly seems to be the norm today)
what are you even talking about

>>389014203
You're arguing the same thing he was suggested, though while being somewhat less of a retard. He seems to think SSDs are still only in ~100Gb sizes and that you need several for games.

>get a 64gb SSD a couple years ago
>oh i can only put one game on it at a time but it's so nice
>get a 256gb SSD yesterday
>oh i can only put one game on it at a time; fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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>buy a "500" GB SSD
>only install games I play and might want to play in the future
>300 GB free of 447 GB

>>389014142
Eh, there are some games out there where "put it on a fucking SSD" comes up twice a day in their discussions. R6 Siege is one of them but like you said, it only takes one toaster to hold the lobby up

>>389013942
fuck off to ur --->/g/

>>389014495
That's why 250GB is the sweet spot.

SSD are for win/linux and programs
HDD is for games

>>389013942
>PS4 and Xbone fill up their 500 GB HDD even faster
>Switch has no external memory whatsoever unless you buy it, which some games will now require
>but no PC is the one in the worse guys
Kill yourself op, you stink of Sonyfag.

>>389013942
>that error pricing on toshiba's web that put 500 gb ssd at $25 but i'm in a thrid world country
FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUCK

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>>389013942
>zero load times
>100Gb games

>buy a great cpu and gpu
>realize games have slow loading because i should have used a ssd for gaming
games are huge now and sdd's are literally too small
times are just shitty atm

why not just use the hybrid drives?

>>389014825
Link? Toshiba's website is fucking horrid to navigate.

>get warhammer total war
>install it on HDD
>3 minute long load times
>look for solutions on the internet
>all the comments say buy an SSD

FUCK

It shouldn't be necessary. If they can organize the assets in a way that they'll be packed in blocks (which don't even need to be that large, even cheap HDDs can still be expected to manage more than a hundred seeks per second) when they'll be needed together and that those blocks can be read in advance as the previous ones are being processed (i.e. everything needed can be "streamed" to the game engine), it should be plenty fast. If it's really well done the IO might not even be the bottleneck.
It's not all that easy to design though. Especially if things need to be dynamically loaded as the player moves. You need a system that analyzes what will be needed in what areas and sort and pack the assets (possibly with redundancy or subsets expected to always be cached). The levels themselves might have to be designed to allow this to be done efficiently. But some engines/editors have those and it works.
Most likely developers don't bother with stuff like this because it's a lot of work and it doesn't sell. They have very fast IO systems for development so it's never slow for them.

>>389014970
>sdd's are literally too small
No

>buy the newest graphic card, newest processor and ssd
>it still gets old in a couple of months
What's the point?

>>389015071
Fallout 4 right?

>>389015283
You have to update your shit incessantly. The ideal renewal cycle is every 6 months. Remember to follow all the biggest tech blogs to learn which new graphics card and SSD you need to be buying. Keep working hard so you can finance your rampant consumerism, you silly goy — I mean, guy.

I'd buy more SSD just because my mechanical hard drives keep dying, if only they didn't cost like 4x as much.

>>389015420
retard

>>389015457
so wait
If I get a new graphics card that is able to play every new game for 2 years at max settings I still need to update it every 6 months?

>>389015283
>buy the newest graphic card, newest processor and ssd
>most games are still consoleports that dont even need that much power unless you fall for the 4k meme

why even bother?
do people really spend $2000+ on a new GPU, CPU and a monitor that takes advantage of that GPU just so they can play skyrim with anime mods at 4k?

>>389015529
take it back

>>389015283
This is why I used to stick to consoles but now consoles are doing what PC's do, releasing a new platform every other year and it's really frustrating when you just want to play games. That ALSO said, I like my gaming PC because even if it means playing on low settings, at least I have an option to play at 60 fps. I really don't like that consoles force you to play a certain setting and only that setting. Only PS4 Pro games and one of the new Guilty Gear/Blazblue games on consoles let you choose anything framerate related : /

>>389015602
no.

>>389015283
>hurr if its not the best its WORTHLESS
>I can still play any game on 3years old PC with easy 60fps
What's the point?

>>389015531
Two years? By that time, it's practically ancient! New games won't run on that! How will you play the latest games at 8k 500fps on such an outdated piece of garbage? You'll need a new graphics card, the best graphics card. You'll need more than one in fact because you have to SLI them for the greatest performance. You don't want to be left in the technological stone age, do you? You have to buy more.

>>389013942
itt "gamers" who dont know what a raid 0 is
just sell you pcs and get xboxes lolll

>>389015635
uh...yes?

>SSDs are now mandatory for modern gaming as games get bigger
you are fucking retarded, though I see only retards buying SSDs

>>389014641
This! SSDs are great for the OS and the HDD for games and other stuff.

>>389015743
upvoted

>>389015807
Just keep quiet or I will put you in the locker and Stacy will laugh at you again.

>>389015283
I just upgrade my PC when I need to to play a new game I want to play.
Better graphics are nice but overall it doesn't make the games all that more fun to me once the novelty wears off.
The cool thing with SSDs is that they can make things load fast. Not having to wait is always an improvement. Not having to wait doesn't get old.
But fuck OP is right newer games don't fit in them and a lot of them load slowly. Things can't be fast it sucks. And old games that are small usually are fast without an SSD as you have enough RAM to keep their shit cached. They might load slowly at first if they have really bad IO patterns but after that it's OK.
That's something console developers could work on eventually. Some kind of certification that games are fast. Guarantee < N seconds to start the game or load a save. Also guarantee that gameplay starts in < N seconds if you skip cutscenes while at it. Because sometimes it's fucking ridiculous all the shit until the game starts.

>>389015283
You don't need 4k. Hell, you don't even need 1440p, 1080p can still use the highest settings on everything with a system made within the past two or three years. Unless you really really need to jerk off to 4k or 1440p you can sit on parts for years no problem.

>>389013942
SSDs are still expensive as fuck. Wait till they get mad cheap.

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>tfw you get a good high capacity SSD on sale for cheaper than a budget SSD half the price
>tfw SSD for windows+programs and a high capacity one for games

>>389015743
>console peasant without pc meme

>>389014970
$150 for a 500gb SSD now

>>389015071
Total War games are still fucking slow on SSDs but not "take a break to piss and get a drink every time you load" slow.

>>389013942
>100GB game
Why have developers stopped optimizing games?

is it fine to run steam games on an external hdd?
my os is on a sdd

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>>389014754
>Switch has no external memory whatsoever unless you buy it.
CemU fags everybody.

>>389015992
got a 2TB HDD for 79 bucks today

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I ordered a SSD recently that will arrive soon. Do you think I'll have to reinstall Windows on it, or is it enough to place the games on it?

>>389015103
Anon, this is what RAM is for. Most of the time the bottleneck is loading data from the drive to RAM. Guess what task a HDD is never going to come close to parity with an SSD...

>>389015870
mom wouldn't laugh at me, you're lying!

>>389015957
You should in fact own all the consoles and a high-end PC. That's the master race.

Remember to buy every new console released every three years and also buy all the latest revisions. How will you enjoy games without the 4k output of the Xbox One X?

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>No SSD, just 1 TB HDD
>old widescreen flatscreen monitors with good sizes but they're so old they dont have HDMI or Displayport connections and they're only 60 hz
>PC is only worth approximately 800 dollars
>can still play most PC games just fine without any issues
Where did the meme that you needed the billion dollar shit even start?
>inb4 poorfag
No shit, sherlock.

>>389016063

if your old drive is an HDD you best reinstall on the new SSD. its literally a world of difference.

>>389013942
>not having a 1TB SSD
how do you even play Arma or Total War on HDD?

>>389016052
The Switch does not come with SD or microSD. Stop lying about this already, you spent an entire thread doing so

>>389014641

I thought this is what most people do? What are you using all that HDD space for?

>>389013942

What? They remove like 5 seconds off your load time on an average game. Hardly mandatory, they are mandatory for keeping your start up time quick as fuck though, my friend's computer takes like a legit 30 minutes to get completely started up while mine takes 30 seconds maximum and thats on the slower side since my ssd is near cap

>>389016158

DVI or VGA?

>>389015283
>tfw /no standards/ and am happy if a game runs good at 1080p 60fps without touching any of the settings
feelsgoodman
this i3 3160, 750Ti, and 1TB WD HDD still treating me right

>>389016047
You can, it's just REALLY REALLY slow.

>>389016047
>>389016309
you'll basically be getting PS4 load times.

>>389016158
go even deeper, flatscreen/widescreen is a meme
crt is the way to go. 75hz, godly colours, no fake digital shit

>>389013942
>not having 128gb of RAM and using it as a RAM Disk for silky smooth loading

get on my level

>>389013942
I run a 2TB drive for my collection, then a 500gb SSD for a few games I use play more frequently or just want good load times on.

>>389016254
One's DVI and the other is VGA through a HDMI adapter, I'm working on fucking jank shit here because I'm too stingy to replace monitors I had years ago

Consoles just work which is why when I plug it in there is always and update to download and when I put in the disk I always have to install the 50GB game to the HDD anyway.

>>389016120
are you having a stroke because of meme-overload?

>>389015103
Whoa look at Bill Gates over here.

>>389016053
I still use HDDs for downloading and other storage but games are objectively faster on SSDs. You're looking at a 5x-10x level of speed increase.

>>389016248
>tfw you can quickly reboot after PUBG locks up and still make it back into the game before you land thanks to SSDs.

>>389016158
You wouldn't see a performance increase on HDMI or DPort (which is just an enthusiast meme connection). HDMI is just DVI with likely copyright protection to keep you from ripping cable.

>>389016063
If you do it right you can clone your current drive to the new one (assuming size parity) and then boot off the SSD.

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If you're that poor you just rotate them around... Poor fags complain about the dumbest shit. FYI if you can't afford shit like SSDs for video games you waste time on while you're poor maybe you should rethink your god damn life.

>>389016009
Modern texture files are actually pretty fucking massive. Stuff like a protagonist's face can be like 11mb alone. When you add up everything that's usually what's eating up 60% of the file size. You'll usually see people complain about them packing in 20 languages worth of dialogue and depending on how VO heavy the game is that can be between 200mb and 20gb but HD texture files are really what's inflating file sizes in games like Nu Doom, Fallout 4, Witcher 3, and Deus Ex MD

So really the solution might be putting out the game with textures optimized for 1080p and having a HD texture pack free DLC that you can turn on if you've got 1440p or 2160p monitor.

The other big one is prerendered movie files. If the game has movie files 1080p video for cutscenes expect that shit to explain most of the bloat alone.

>>389016359
How the hell would you even connect CRTs to most new GPUs?

>>389015283
Only if you're an absolute autist about wanting the best of everything. To each his own, I suppose. My setup has been the same for 6 years and it's still adequate for today's games.

>>389016158
This.
Still have a 4 gb 760, and can play most modern games on a medium-ish setting WHICH IS FINE because I'm not some 14 year old fag that cries to his mommy when he sees one to many jaggies on his screen.

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>>389013942
>TFW I've been running a 128gig SSD for years and haven't felt the need to get a bigger one yet since it still runs, and with my OS and a few programs I can fit a couple super-slow loading games like Paradox shit on there fine
I'll definitely buy a new one for C drive when the time comes, but right now I've got 3 mechanical drives for lots and lots of filthy pornography and a couple games and the SSD for a few strategy games and I'm set.

>>389016557
Adapters.

>>389016424
Consoles now are just bad PCs. I've been deterred from playing my PS4 because every time I try to play a game, I have to install an update for a game, but unlike Steam, the updates on PSN download so fucking slowly. I mean, I pay for PSN+, and yet I get these download speeds far slower than what my internet connection can do. Fucking consoles.

>Games are getting bigger
>Storage isn't getting larger
What the fuck happened to advances in storage? I want a large SSD without needing to pay a fucking thousand dollars.

>bought new 2tb hdd a few weeks ago
>motherboard won't detect hdds for some reason, still detects ssds fine though
>now stuck with a hdd I can't use until I get a new motherboard
ITS NOT FAIR BROS

>>389016527
Jokes on you the most modern game I have is Rise of the Tomb Raider and I uninstalled that in shame a year ago. Everything else are games that are 10 - 20 years old.

>>389016660
3D NAND should hopefully increase size and speed but we won't see much from it until they really start to take advantage of it.

>>389015457
You don't really need to update that often. I usually update every 5 years and I do fine.

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>>389016605
sadly this is the only way
crts are already what lcd/oled screens want to be
check this comparison

Was surprised to see how well ssd works on a ps3 for games like DeS

>>389016660
SSDs have been getting bigger though, you can buy a 50TB 3.5' SSD right now if you have the money

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>PS4 comes with a 500gb drive
>discover disc based games now install to the drive also
>nearly out of space
what the fucking shit is the point
gaming died after the 6th generation

>>389016557
>>389016359
they had DVI and VGA

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>>389016896
So are CRTs secretly better or is this just a meme ruse?

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>>389016925
>even the internal PS4 HDD uses SATA to USB instead of just straight SATA so you can't improve load times if you wanted to

>>389016924
>$15,000 for an SSD
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>389016660
HDDs are literally at physical capacity. Anything more than 2tb on a HDD will have issues.

SSDs are becoming cheaper all the time; compare a 1tb from last year to now. True, it's not getting cheaper at a rate we'd all like, but it will eventually become cheaper to get an SSD than HDD, probably within 5-10 years.

>>389017132
>being THIS poor
whats the weather like in brazil

>>389017132
progress is progress.
500GB and 1TB SSDs have come down in price and will continue to.

>>389017012
They're better for some things. They have a higher refresh rate and look better for sprites.

>>389016925
>Buy physical edition of KH2.8
>You must install 11gb to play KH2.8
What the fuck Sony

>>389017190
chinga tu madre or something essay

>>389017202

>11gb

Isn't that a PS2 game?

>>389017012
analog > digital
digital will always try to reproduce an analog quality but for cheaper/smaller/more efficient manner

>>389016924
>>389017012
>>389017190

>not using 50TB of RAM in a 100-metre strip for SANIC FAST storage and load times

fucking poorfags I swear

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Why are RAM prices so expensive now? I bought my 8GB of DDR4 back in 2014 for $40 and the same set is almost twice that.

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Monthly reminder to enable Momentum Cache if your SSD supports it

>>389013942
You're a huge faggot.

>>389017375
Are the clock speeds the same though?

>>389017379
Yearly reminder I don't have some meme SSD that requires you turn on some fancy cache feature.

>>389016925
The fact we're talking PS4 here will attract shitposting, but I'm in the same boat. Whenever I want to play a game that I haven't in a while I need to delete another one and reinstall the old one and all it's updates on my shitty connection. It sucks.

>>389017440
Yeah I'm looking through my Newegg order history and the same set I paid $40 for is now $87 which is more than double actually.

Does anyone here own a hybrid drive? Is it legit or is it a meme?

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>not having an SSD for essentials like OS and other key aps
>not running RAID 0 for games for maximum storage-to-price ratio while still getting much faster, near-SSD load times
how can you fit all your shit on a 1TB hdd I dont understand. are you guys still on the 1080p porn lol

>>389017601
>running RAID 0
I really fucking hope you're keeping regular backups, anon

>>389017012
They are, but it's a very small improvement. For some people it can make all the difference however. Especially in games like Quake.

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>>389013942
>tfw only playing older games and indie games so you dont need any modern graphic cards or SSDs

>>389017527
>Is it a meme
Yes because there's no reason to not just get a SSD and enjoy all the benefits from that. If you really are some digital hoarder fag then you can just get an external hard drive and store shit on that until you actually need it. Seriously, if you're going to be spending 500 dollars on a video card, why the fuck aren't you spending half that amount on a really good ssd.

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>>389014987
Literally meme drives

SSD are essential for repacks (especially the ones from FitGirl), unless you want the game to unpack all day and the computer to be unuseable for anything else during that time.

>>389018075
the only argument against ssds currently is that games are getting huge, like 100+ gigs.
at some point i think the speed stops being worth it

>>389017853

What's the difference between running RAID 0 and regular disk usage? If the drives fail you're fucked either way.

>>389018172
or you could buy your games faggot

>>389018225
Raid 0 means you have two failure points

>>389018075
500 dollars on a video card will give you a notably better in-game performance than 500 on an SSD.

An SSD will make your load times moderately faster and that's about it.

It's definitely worth getting one for your OS and frequently played games, but once you've actually loaded, an SSD isn't going to make a big improvement.

>>389017601
>1080p porn
>4k porn
Fucking disgusting, I don't want to see all those nasty details.
In any case
>3dpd

>>389018225
In normal setup, you have Disk X and Disk Y
If Disk Y fails, Disk X is still fine.

In RAID 0, if Disk Y fails, Disk X loses everything too.

Though really there's no reason you shouldn't be backing up everything monthly.

>>389016595
2012 HD7950 is enough for console settings 1080p 50-60 fps even in recent games. I'm sure HD7870 will still give you better results than both consoles.

>>389018289
>playing TW:W with a friend
>every time we load into battle I have to stare at the 'waiting for players to load' screen
Fucking laptop users

Huh? I have zero games installed on my SSD and every game loads faster than its console equivalent.

Also
>have the OPTION to spend more money on useful hardware that, among other, non-vidya things, reduces load times
>bad thing

>>389016925
The only bad part about this is having to redownload the updates if you need to delete something. Thankfully a good chunk of games are like 20GB at most with only a handful of good ones being higher so it's not like they take up a massive amount of data.

Is anyone here running a RAID 0 setup? How much faster is it compared to just using the default drives?

>>389018434
Only exception is Deus Ex Mankind Divided. I swear, loading times took like 3 minutes when moving from one area to another.

>>389017853
>>389018389
only if you truly care about whats on the harddrives. if I lost my vidya and 4k hdr high bitrate porn its not the end of the world, the important shit like documents is on the ssd

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>>389017524
PC Gaming is just so on the rise that all parts are sort of going up. Video games won't need more than 16 gigs of ram, so they have to jack up the prices over time so they can get more profit than the previous quarter.

>have a 128GB SSD for my OS
>have a 256GB SSD for my games
>have a 1TB external HDD for media

Pretty good. Also it stops me from constantly flip flopping between games.

>>389018554
With two WD Black 6 TB drives, which WD says write at ~200 MB/s, I had a write speed of around 380 MB/s in RAID 0. So still slower than most SSDs, but of course 12 GB of space.

>>389016896
CRTs will look like that too if you crank the brightness.

>>389018606
This. Having too many games installed is a quickfire way to never want to play anything.

>>389018554
ive had raid 0 for years and honestly I forgot that load times were even a problem. im sure ssd would be faster but it loads fast enough that I dont notice it. an extra few seconds faster would be nice but im not spending literally thousands of dollars to get the ssd space equivalent

>>389018661

do people run RAID on SSDs or is it just overkill

Not that I would, but in theory, would replacing all HDDs in a computer with SSDs make the computer a fuckton more silent? Not even dealing with the floor vibrating a little and hearing the drives running all the time?

>have had two 450gb SSDs for my computer for years now
>keep all my torrented anime on a NAS with harddrives
Step it up, /v/-kun

>>389018604
No it's not you fucking dolt. Just like NAND prices, they mostly went up when phones started using the technology. Nobody buy gaymen PCs compared to the normies that rush to get the newest iPhone/Galaxy phones.

>>389018836
It would be a noticable difference. I have 2 SSDs and 2 HDDs and I can tell when either HDD spins up.

>>389013942
Stick your OS on your SSD
Stick your 100Mb gaemz on your SSD
Stick your 10Gb gaemz and your anime / porn / coding in progress on your HDD (And back up your coding)

>>389016647
>finally get the motivation to finish a ps4 game
>start it up
>23 min. of downloads and installation
>let it finish
>turn off the console and do something else on my PC

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>>389018852
NAS is the future

>>389018834
Depends on the application, I suppose. For reducing load times? Probably pointless. It might have a use if you're capturing uncompressed video in 2160p60 or something, I don't know.

>>389014062
Have you played GTA V?

>>389018921
>Back up your coding
You can't make me.

>>389018740
turn the brightness to the lowest on your lcd and turn off the lights in the room. take a picture. I guarantee youll still get tons of lightbleed unless you spent all your neetbux on an oled

>>389018834
>do people run RAID on SSDs or is it just overkill

Both. Data centers / super high availability applications might try something like SSD raids. For a home user an SSD or M.2 drive would be more than sufficient. Past that is just hotrodding.

>>389019046
What the fuck is a NAS drive, I could google it but having one of you spoonfeed me is better.

>>389018836
Silent and a lot cooler. Then again my case is packed with shit, having a mechanical drive doing a lot of reading and writing heats up really quickly. I can't wait until it's winter and I can boot up my PC to see the GPU temperature being less then 20 degrees Celsius.

>>389019169
Network Attached Storage. Just a computer with a lot of storage hat you use to store content on. Often helpful if you want to access media from multiple devices on a network.

>>389019169
In layman's terms it's an external hard drive with a network port and software for easier file sharing.

>>389014062
Try playing Fallout 4 installed on a hard drive. The loading times are fucking insane. An SSD is pretty much required to play that game.

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unrelated topic coming through but figured I'd ask since it's data related
I'm upgrading my home internet to 300mbps down/up with fiber, but I'm getting slapped with a 1tb a month cap by the att jews
will that be enough? I'm usually watching twitch/youtube most of the time and occasionally have to download vidya patches, and I don't usually torrent a lot of stuff or download big files but I'm worried that with the increased consistency and speed I'll do more of that and raise my usage over the monthly cap, especially with being able to watch hd videos/streams regularly now instead of 360p

Nasir Bin Olu Dara Jones (/nɑːˈsJər/; born September 14, 1973), better known by his stage name Nas /ˈnɑːz/, is an American hip hop recording artist, record producer, actor and entrepreneur.[1] The son of Olu Dara, Nas has release 8 consecutive platinum and multi-platinum albums and has sold over 25 million records worldwide. He is also an entrepreneur through his own record label; he serves as associate publisher of Mass Appeal magazine and is the owner of a Fila sneaker store. He is currently signed to Mass Appeal.

His musical career began in 1991, as a featured artist on Main Source's "Live at the Barbeque". His debut album Illmatic (1994) received universal acclaim from both critics and the Hip-Hop community and is frequently ranked as the greatest Hip Hop album of all time.[2][3] Nas's follow-up It Was Written debuted at #1 on the Billboard 200, stayed on top for 4 consecutive weeks, went Double Platinum in 2 months, and made Nas internationally known. From 2001-2005, Nas was involved in a highly publicized feud with Jay-Z. Nas signed to Def Jam in 2006. In 2010, he released Distant Relatives, a collaboration album with Damian Marley, donating all royalties to charities active in Africa. His 11th studio album, Life Is Good (2012) was nominated for Best Rap Album at the 55th Annual Grammy Awards.

Nas is often named as one of the greatest hip-hop artists. MTV ranked him at #5 on their list of "The Greatest MCs of All Time". In 2012, The Source ranked him #2 on their list of the "Top 50 Lyricists of All Time". In 2013, Nas was ranked 4th on MTV's "Hottest MCs in the Game" list. About.com ranked him first on their list of the "50 Greatest MCs of All Time" in 2014, and a year later, Nas was featured on "The 10 Best Rappers of All Time" list by Billboard.

In 2016, Nas narrated The Get Down and rapping as Adult Ezekiel of 1996.

>>389013942
>100GB game
what game is that bro and is it on sale?

>>389019046
It's been the future for years now, nobody really cares apparently. If you were really desperate you could even make one out of a a pi

>>389019169

Basically this shit is a box you hook into your internet that has a so much fucking data that you'll never need anything else to store your files in again. Shit has multiple harddrives that YOU can put in it with even some NAS coming with raid so easy to set up your grandma is already fucking ahead of you in this game.

>>389019361
>will that be enough?
You just admitted in your own post that your habits may change drastically with the better speeds, so how is anybody here supposed to tell you?

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>>389019169

>>389019381
>>389019169

ah fuck forgot the reply

give me (You)s please

On SSD I have multiplayer games I play on regular basis that actually benefit from being on SSD, such as Red Orchestra.
Also I have a space to spare, so I can install latest games or simply move something I want to play right now from HDD to SSD. It doesn't take that long to move a game from HDD to SSD

>>389019138
The emitters in a CRT are still swept across the entire screen. Lightbleed happens on both.

Let's just all agree OLED is the future and go from there.

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>>389013942
>not downloading 1TB of RAM for free and use it as a virtual driver

>>389019461
I'm asking for a general opinion, not an exact estimate
if I'm just doing what I am now (lots of twitch/youtube) except at higher quality/sometimes fps what would be a ballpark guess for a month?

>>389019361
I get 2TB a month for a 200mb line. I use .5TB myself, so you might be ok.

>>389015457
Six months? I guess you're the kind of kiddo that thinks Linus or fuckever his name is tech savvy, aren't you?

>>389019361
>>389019598
damn the american corps really know how to fuck you guys. tempt you with the ultra fast 300mb/s knowing that youll go over and youll never get to fully experience the speed

>>389019598
"Lots" is a relative term. Do you have a job? How much time are you at home?

Just Twitch and YouTube won't get you to 1 TB, no matter what quality you watch at. If you add patch downloads and torrents, it's a different matter.

>>389015283
You forgot the part where the latest graphics card only runs games in 1080 (it's literally in the name) but costs more than a console.

>>389019630
His post was sarcastic mockery and you were too stupid to realize it.

>>389013942
>Tfw I want to buy a 1tb M2 SSD, but it's such a chore to open up the ol' can and jank out the GPU that it's just not worth the bother
I was thinking about getting another 32GB RAM and making a day of it. But after that fucking 100% price increase on DDR4 it just feels depressing.

Remember back when messing around in your computer was fun?

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>>389019434
That's because the good NAS units are all expensive as fuck! Just like all tech, the price will go down eventually, and it'll be a staple when they do.

>>389014495
Works if you're one of the e-sports autist faggots that play at most three games at a time for thousands of hours. But not if you like to play a large variety of games and have them readily installed.

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>>389013942

Here's what you do retard:

>Buy a 250-500GB SSD
>Buy a 3-4TB HDD
>Move the games you're not playing but want to go back to in the not too distant future on your HDD when you're not playing them to make room for the stuff you ARE playing
>Modern SSDs can write numerous hundreds of terabytes before they have any issues

>>389019586
I know "downloading ram" is a meme. but in a way you could; by downloading an app that changes the page file for your system. Changing the amount of virtual ram your system has isn't really going to make much of a difference though.

Using SSD to store videogames is the most retarded thing you can do after becoming an audiophile.

>>389019805

I, too, enjoy installing hardware such as sound cards and 3d accelerators on my pc.

>>389020031
This tbqh. Why do you have to choose when you can get the best of both worlds

>>389019663
well I could get the 1gpbs and have unlimited with that, but it obviously costs more
apparently the first two months you don't get charged for going over the cap so I guess I could just let it rock and see where I end up afterward
>>389019697
I'm a bedridden neet 24/7 who's only hobby is watching other people play video games and other various internet videos, along with browsing here of course
I still probably won't be torrenting much of anything but several gb vidya patches could easily fuck me in the ass

>>389020129
Oh, I remember when I was ~16 and did my first upgrade to my PC (a soundcard).
I truly became the 1337 anonomouse haxxor

>>389019808
>NAS units
If you're a basic home user you can use any old computer, a raspberry pi or build a new computer for cheap and use that, no need to splurge on useless shit.

>>389019357
>Try playing Fallout 4
Stopped reading

>>389019586
A few years back I set up an automated script to keep downloading more ram. I would run it 24/7 all the time. What I realized is that I started getting enough ram to store everything on my PC. And then some... Eventually I started torrenting stuff directly on to my RAMdisk. Movies, porn, games, you name it. The amount of ram just kept growing, so I could keep storing more and more stuff. Some people would use my ramdisks for their own storage and backup.

By the end of it all I was at .79EB (that's Exabyte, after petabyte) at about 40-45% filled. I was storing nearly all of my friend's backups, their movie collections, and their game collections. Plus my own vast media collection, constantly growing because of the eternally growing ramdisk. I had every movie from IMDB, and most on-air TV from 2014 onward.

Then lightning struck, literally.

A lightning storm outside my house hit a nearby power pole. My UPS actually managed to stop my PC from being damaged, but it cut the power... and RAM is cleared on loss of power.

The PC rebooted, and it ran completely fine... But I was back down to my 1TB hard drive and 8gb RAM. All of my data, all of my movies, all the backups my friend trusted me with. Gone. Forever.

Be careful downloading ram my friends. It's nice to have but can be gone in an instant.

>Have a 6 year old processor - Phenom 2 X4 955
>Shitty 1050ti video card
>Mechanical HDD
>don't get any of the texture problems in PUBG

It really seems that having a heap of RAM is what counts. I've got the game on a WD Black drive and have 16GB RAM, and everything's loaded by the time I land. At most, the first house is a bit blurry until I get to the door, but that's it.

>>389020376
F

>>389019808
>>389020334
if you just want a cheap way to store stuff on your network and over the net yeah a pi will do it.
NAS are becoming mainstream with Plex doing so well though, manufacturers like Seagate, WD and Synology are building boxes with video hardware transcoding so you no longer need to buy a super expensive unit with a high end processor to run a media server.

>>389020031

This is how i do it:

> 1 small ssd (around 100GB) for OS, main programs and a few games.
> Separate ssd dedicated to loading-intensive games. 250-500gb.
> 2 tb had for movies, pdfs, comics, random programs
> 3 tb for storing most games, and running less loading-intensive ones, + all emulators and romsets.

>50gb SSD for Windows
>Everyone else on a regular ass 2TB HDD

Loading times haven't really been an issue.

>>389020334
Do raspberrypi make for good media players ? I was thinking about buying one and use it for muh animu but I'm not sure it could handle HEVC at 1080p.

>>389020572
1080p hevc probably won't run very well, even with overclocking and a heatsink. Depends on the bitrate too but assuming huge bitrates because anime releases in 1080p x265 tend to be that way, not a very good option.

What are some games that are nigh unplayable on HDDs?

>Total War: Warhammer
>Fallout 4
>ARMA 3

1GB HHD cost about $50
1GB SSD cost about $300

SSDs are really nice, but really just put 2 HHDs in raid0

>bought a 120GB 840 Pro sometime in 2012 or 2013
>bought a 250GB 850 EVO for $100 a year or so later
>use the 840 pro for OS+Adobe suite bullshit
>use the 850 EVO for vidya
>have a combined 5TB~ of actual HDD storage for literally everything else and for games that see little to no benefit from SSD
>have had literally no issues with not having "enough space"
>if by chance I don't have room on an SSD I either prune what I have installed or move a game I'm not playing at all for that moment to HDD in case I want to play it again later

Wow. This is so complicated.

>>389020572
they make for okay Kodi boxes but HEVC at 1080p will probably be an issue.
If you've got something that transcode for it there's no problem, but native 1080p HEVC is pushing it.

I own a pi as a secondary player but my main player is an Nvidia Shield TV, which has insane video playback support and is actually powerful enough to transcode media to serve to other clients, but it's more than 3 time more expensive.
Android TV is a really good option so maybe try something cheaper in that realm.
I know Google is about to release a new Android TV box to go along with Android Oreo so maybe wait for reviews of that.

>>389015283

>he only buys the latest hardware in assumption it will be better

Let me guess, you're under the age of 18. How's that new 1080 doing while playing some indie or consoleport?

>>389020923

Noisier, substantially less reliable and still slower.

>>389020835
>>389020967
Oh well, thanks for the info.

>>389019361
My family of four has the same connection as you on the same plan. We use about 300-500GB on a good month while watching all Youtube stuff at 480-720p minimum. Unless you just go balls to the walls and seed literally dozens of torrents while downloading 4k everything you'll be fine.

>>389019112
Do you ever need to load after startup in that game?

>>389020923

>1GB HDD
>$50

I got my 1TB HDD at a steal then

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>>389013942
Anybody ever ran games off an NAS with Steam Streaming or whatever the fuck have you? With gigabit connections available it doesn't seem like it'd be too fucking awful honestly. I just hate HDD noise so I'm deathly afraid of installing on in the computer I built to be whisper silent.

>>389021042
But you save $200

>>389015283
>buy the latest car
>outdated by next year, so you have to buy a new one
carcucks amirite?

>>389014495
>Buy a 128GB SSD 14 months ago
>take 6 months to partition it because first PC
>still haven't put a single file on it today

>>389020923
1TB*, FTFY

>>389021153
There are other SoCs available that are way more capable than anything Raspberry produces, too. There's a lot of shopping a research to be done but it's possible to build a pretty decent system on SoCs.

>>389021258
to do steam streaming you'd need to install steam on your NAS, then have it run the games and record the video stream to send to your PC.
Most NAS are incapable of this both in terms of hardware and software, to have it work you'd basically just have a 2nd gaming PC that's running in a NAS enclosure.

To use your NAS as mounted storage and have your main PC run the game, that could work.
It's not ideal but yes the network connection won't give you much issue if it's wired.
I've run games from my NAS before but just PS2/Wii ISOs, not installed games.
It should work.

I've got 500GB in ssd and the rest on an external hdd. Just alternate larger game installs as I play them

>>389021478
he's probably better off just buying something capable of H265 hardware decoding though if that's what he wants.
Nexus Player had it (discontinued) so I imagine Google's next Android TV they're working on with HTC should have it.

I love all of my SoCs but they're more suited to running headless network tasks than being media boxes.

>>389019808
>buying a prebuilts shit nas
Be a big boy and build a nice NAS with actually upgradeable storage with half the space running in party for backup kiddo.

>>389021751
redundancy is not backup, kiddo

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How's your SSD doing, /v/?

>>389015923
>were suddenly back to 2015

>play 50gb game
>finish it
>move it from ssd to hdd

thats already overkill on a 500gb ssd

>>389021258
Well, you could build a host PC that can run steam and your games and have a personalized PSNow like service. But the input lag might be shit so who knows.

>>389021831
No, it's a safety net. If a drive fails you can just replace the broken one while still keeping your data.

>>389016925
>wanting to suffer through disc load times on a multi gigabytes sized disks

>Western Digital
>Samsung
>Seagate
>Toshiba
>Sandisk

Who deserves my shekels?

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>>389021834
>that power on count

casual/10

>>389021934
I know, I'm just saying it's not backup.
A lot of people run redundancy thinking it's as good as backup but the two have different purposes.
Redundancy means low downtime, you can literally replace the drive and not skip a beat.
Great, especially for businesses.
But it's easier to fuckup both drives, if data gets lost or corrupted on one it's going to be the same on the other.
And there have been all too many cases where people have had multiple drives fail together just because they thought it was such a slim chance of occurring.

Backup is a seperate copy of your data made periodically.
The advantage being if your data gets fucked up, if you box gets eaten by a shark or you just want to roll back a change you made it's always there.
For home users, backups are far more useful than redundancy (although ideally you have both, most people don't want to pay 3 times more for their effective storage).

>>389022131
I mean shit, I guess I need to find a way to quickly back up 8 TiB of data for my future NAS.

>>389022112
Why doesn't yours count reads?

>>389022215
does your NAS have a USB port?
I have a 4TB USB 3.0 drive hooked up to my NAS and have an automated backup task that even sends me an email on successful (or the occasional unsuccessful) backup.

>>389019503
>Let's just all agree OLED is the future and go from there.
They still have to figure out the whole thing about it losing colors, having easy screen burn, and how much it costs to produce them. One of the main problems is that while it's beautiful at the start after a couple years you start to lose its original beauty.

>>389016246
Movies, TV series, anime, music

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>>389021834
got this one for insanely cheap on clearance, it's running hot because the only m.2 slot on my MOBO is under the GPU.
Also thanks for making me check, one of my HDDs might be about to die.

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>>389022367
>E:
>caution

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>>389013942
why not both?

i just use old sata drive. works fine. and just out of princible not even going to bother with downloading 50gb+ games.

>>389022304
It isn't built yet, waiting for a good deal on drives, but I don't doubt it will. Just need to find an 8TiB external drive, or maybe two 4TiB drives.

>>389013942
1tb is still $500usd+ isnt it

pretty stupid when the average game + os and other shit are like 50-100gb+ each

even 768gb isnt enough im just gonna get a cheap 1tb ssd for my 2nd m2 slot

fucking mobile phones driving ram, nand and ssd prices up

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>>389022435
It's an old 1TB seagate barracuda I've owned for probably 6-7 years that only has some porn I haven't moved to my other porn drive.
If it died tomorrow I wouldn't even care.

>>389014552
siege + pubg are literally the only games ive played that need a ssd anyway

rest are more then happy to just load of a decent hdd

>>389019990
or just don't have ADHD anf finish some games

>>389022524
>seagate
Everytime
Reminder to stop buying seagate drives

>>389015283
thats what u get for buying intel cpus and amd rtg shite

1600x + 1080 master race

>>389022503
no, it's about $150 for 500gb, in fact there's a labor day sale at Fry's for an 850 Evo at $140

>>389022604
It's the only one I owned and I was a dirt poor highschool student at the time, $60 for 1TB even back then.
My other HDDs are WD reds and some toshiba drives, SSDs are samsung and Intel.

>>389022610
Intel CPUs were your only real option until Ryzen, they flipped the market super fast.
Now AMD are the only real option.
t. AMD+nvidia convert

>>389022624
ausfag here life is pain

even newegg + 50 postage is cheaper than here

>>389019357
Did you install the HD TEXTURE FREE DLC?
That's probably why.
It's not better, don't do it, not worth it.

>>389022751
Vega is dogshit though its $100 over budget and 16 months late + horrible thermals and power usage

t. ex 390x fag

https://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=1tb+ssd&spos=3

is our cheapest prices

>>389022754
that blows, is it still faster and cheaper to mail 60gb of data than downloading it in upside down land?

storagelets on suicide watch
Why the fuck would you not have a TB of storage space?

you guys realise that you can download games and then remove them and then download another game
if you live in a first world country you should have very high speeds and this shouldn't be a problem

>>389022754
I'm also an ausfag but it really still isn't that bad.
MSY has 850 EVO 1TB for $439.00 AUD, you can get much cheaper drives if you go for Sandisk shit though.
>>389022794
Vega is a GPU which we obviously weren't talking about.
Everyone is aware of how much of a shitshow Vega was.

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>>389016359
I see you are a man of taste

Whats the fucking problem?

i dont even use a disk hdd anymore
i got 2x 2TB SSD

works like a charm
its not that expensive
get a fucking job dumb fucks

>>389022780
No, I just installed the base game.

>>389022893
when i get some new hdd's ill get a single 8tb and a 1tb m2 ssd

Sata 3 ssd's are so slow compared to m2 ultra

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>Buy 120GB SSD
>Really 111GB
>Windows takes like 80GB anyhow, for no reason
>Still worth the extra boot/app speed
>HDD with games is now faster, due not competing with the OS/Apps for system IO

>>389022996
>Sata 3 ssd's are so slow compared to m2 ultra
I hope you're aware of the difference between m.2 SSDs and don't buy SATA m.2 by mistake.

I know a lot of people who did that shit.

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>>389013942
Bruh, just buy more hard drives

>saving up for PC but will probably ged mid-tier CPU and GPU
>just HAVE to have that 4K IPS screen

fuck it I'll play upscaled bois

>>389023071
i have a spare m2 and sata 3 plug so im fine

based ab350 boards come with 2 m2 and 6 sata 6gbps

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>>389023126
Nice setup, anon

>>389013942
>not having a small SSD for os and a SSHD for games

What will be the next step in terms of commercial data storage?

>800aud for 2tb
https://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=2tb+ssd&spos=1

Dayum

>>389023187
Crystals for mass storage of the bulk of data, just better SSDs for local storage.

I have 2 500gb ssds, plenty of space desu.

>>389023154
don't fucking waste your money on that screen, 1080p 144hz will serve you a lot better, nothing can run in 4k 30fps right now, not even a quad SLI 1080ti setup

>>389013942
>still less reliable than a mechanical HD
I sure love rolling the dice each year

>1500usd for 4tb ssd
https://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=4tb+ssd&spos=1

when are these fucking prices going to come down?
>>389023234
not for long padre

>>389023263
only ssd that ever shat out on me was a 7 year old adata 256gb that had like 30tb written on it

>>389023265
SSHDs m8
HHDs with SDD cache and the price is reasonable

I just delete my steam games and redownload them when I feel like it

Feels good to be the 250Mbps master race

>100gb game

no such game exists

>>389023126
>8.1
hmmmmm

SSDs, while more reliable and quieter have lower functional lifetimes than a good HDD due to their writing limitations.

>>389023261
4k 60hz+ is MCM tier gpu territory

something we wont see hit mainstream till at least 2020

we're in a horrible gpu situation at the moment.

1440p 165hz+ is as good as we're gonna get and god help us theres 8k now
>>389023356
>mfw paying for 50mbit and get 1-5mbit during he day + >>389023356
stupidily low 500gb caps a month
feels australia desu

blah blah blah a dig at PC.

I tried playing Dark Souls 3 on my son's Xbone. I was met with fucking 30s-1m loading screens; 30s-1m loading screens on a modern console. That's a fucking joke.

Meanwhile, playing through Steam on my rig I experience sub 10s loading screens, and often nothing beyond 5 or 6 seconds.

>PC gamers waste money lol

Time is money. When you get a fucking job you'll realize that, you'll also realize that the PC investment is NOT a hefty fee.

>>389023352
literal memes, just like ramdisks.

>>389023397
Uhh, okay?

>>389023369
>Siege w/ hd textures
>GTA V
plenty others desu get better stdorage

>>389023408
Maybe, depends on how the Xbox One X does, if that console can run at 4k 30fps as it claims there will be a push to do so on the PC side.

>>389023426
>>389023426
no shit

also its a ssd not a hybrid

https://www.umart.com.au/newsite/goods.php?id=36682

>>389023415
the thing is, XBO and PS4 have replacable internal HDDs.
They COULD have let you use SSDs.
And they do, technically.
But because their engineers are assholes, the HDDs are limited by SATA 2, PS4 actually uses a SATA to USB internal adapter meaning external USB storage is no slower than what you install inside.

>>389023498
we've had 4k since 2013 its nothing new at all mate

Xbox one X is liter Big Poolaris with 12gb of shared ram thats it

It barely hits 4k 30fps at medium with a gpu thats around Fury X/1070 levels of power

>>389023408
Every Australian must be ashamed of themselves. You were most likely descended either from English convicts or Scottish/Irish morons who were too stupid to find work at home.

>>389023523
And void any repair/replacement warranty when the shit rig wrapped in a fancy plastic shell inevitably craps out? Not worth the hassle or the money. Console gaming is a fucking joke.

Never had a SAD before, but I can get a 500gb for 45 bong pounds. Is it easy enough to reinstall Windows on there and still use your HDD as storage without losing anything or does the HDD format itself when Windows deactivates?

>>389022989
Not that anon but the loading time is fine, not even long enough for you to notice it's loading long

>>389023523
which is funny because the switch can used SDXC at full speed

>>389023601
yeah but they built the thing so games perform like they were written to metal, that's how they're achieving 4k.

If consoles go back to hardware optimization they'll outperform PC like it's 2002

>>389023649
tell me about it

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INTEL HAS THE SOLUTION

>>389023739
>If consoles go back to hardware optimization they'll outperform PC like it's 2002
if only

look at the ps4 pro lol

>yeah but they built the thing so games perform like they were written to metal, that's how they're achieving 4k.

Even with games like doom 4 and BF1 which are insanely well optimized gpu's 3x are powerful struggle to 60fps+ at 4k with max srtting

>>389023876
Like I said we have to see if it performs like they claim

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>>389023857
>launched right as everyone switched from Intel
>isn't even good
>B-BUT 4K NETFLIX ONLY ON WINDOWS 10
how did they fuck up their figurative monopoly so badly?

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>>389021834
My HDD apparently isn't doing very good
But I have no idea what this means

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>>389023975
>new disk waifus
they sure know where the money is

>>389023972
>everyone switched from Intel
Speak for yourself AMDfaggu.

>>389020083
>Using SSD to store videogames is the most retarded thing you can do after becoming an audiophile.
>eeeeeezzzzz-zzzzzzzz-eeeeeeeee-zzzz-zzzzzz
Doesn't the motherboard have an effect on that too? I notice it too sometimes, but generally it isn't a problem unless I'm moving big files around.

>>389023975
it means your HDD has a degenerative disease that will only get worse

>>389024076
everyone who didn't recently buy a 7700k*
happy?

>>389023975
Time to backup

>not just buying a 1TB M.2 SSD for all your gaymen needs

>>389013942
>playing nu-games
lel

poorfags truly limit the gaming industry

get a job idiot

>>389023649
>Every Australian must be ashamed of themselves.
Data caps are cropping up in the US now too. I'm on a 1 TB a month cap at the moment through Cox. They're somehow trying to market this as a benefit to customers, of course. Doesn't matter how fast your download speed is when they're going to start railing you in the ass at $10 per 50 GB once you go over your limit.

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>>389013942
>not having a dedicated SSD purely for Dwarf Fortress
It really toggles my cats

>>389015457
Just play older games. There's not been many good titles since like 2012 or so and retro gaming's where it's at anyway. New games are shit.

>>389015457
kek, sure mate, keep giving your money to the tech jews.

>>389019990
It works because most games see very little improvement on a SSD. The only 2 games on mine that really have a huge difference in playability vs running off a SSD is TW:W and XCOM 2, both of which have a lot more loading screens than the average game.

>>389024253


>playing unoptimized FPS death fortress

>>389024106
>>389024138
Well shit
At least a new 1tb drive isn't too expensive

>>389020880
Fallout 4 is because the load rate is tied to framerate. Theres a mod to uncap your framerate during loading screens and it makes a huge impact on both SSD and HDD. As for other games, XCOM 2 load times blow dick.

>>389022604
>Receive Seagates for Christmas gifts and birthday gifts when I was younger and needed a HDD.
>Every single one of them but my current external have died.
>At one point dad bought me a 2TB external.
>It died the day after the warranty ran out.
>Lost all of my backup saves and everything on it since it was going to be my primary backup drive at that point.
>Spent weeks finding different file restorers and ways to just get my data back
>Nothing worked no matter how hard I tried.
Fuck Seagate. Meanwhile all my WD and Toshiba drives have lived for 6+ years.

>>389013942
I have 2x256GB SSDs.

If a game I don't play gets too big I simply move it to my 2x4TB HDDs.

>>389016053
Okay but how does that help your loading times. It's designed to store stuff not play it.

It's like saying I got this Truck that can haul 200 tons but goes 10 miles an hour.

And then why can't it compete with this mini van that carries 10 tons but goes 120 mph

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>>389021834
Uh oh guys, how fucked am I?

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>>389024753
Not at all?

>>389015457
good post.

realistically since ~2003 i went celeron 1.2ghz gf 200(0?)32mb 256 ram - gf 4200 64mb - gf 6600 128mb - amd x2 6k 2gb - 4gb -gf 8600 256mb - gtx 260 512mb - i5 3570k 8gb - gtx 460 1gb - gtx 1060 6gb. obviously new cpu equals new mobo.

overall only between 460 and 1060 did i have issues running modern shitcoding products, and the most i wasted was on the 1060 around 300 yuros while usually 200max and getting the 260 460 for a fiddy each second hand. didnt list the ssd because while neat it extremely rarely improves fps.

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>>389024701
I didn't care about load times, I'm running out of space anon

>>389024701

>car analaogy

kys

>>389023369
FFXV on Steam is 150 GB

>ITT: Everyone exaggerates the fuck over a few extra seconds to justify their wasted purchases by making the benefit seem like it is the difference between walking somewhere and driving a car there instead

Pretty sure you'd be decently okay for years with a 1050ti

>>389015283
How does it get old?

Heres my complete PC cycle.

386 - 1993

Pentium MMX 233 Mhz S3Virge 32 MB Ram - 1997

Then the PC preformance explosion happened

Duron 700 TNT 2 Riva 192 MB RAM 256 MB RAM- 2000

Pentium 4 1.7 Ghz Radeon 9000 Pro 1 GB RAM- 2002

Then for a while I could play most stuff big roadblock was hit around 2006

Core 2 Duo E6700 8800 GTS 4 GB RAM - 2007

460 GTX upgrade in - 2010

Then console stagnation hit HARD really hard I could play everything for years and I didn't really feel a need to upgrade. Also got a job around 2014 so I got some money bought an SSD nothing else... then a shock came in 2015. I couldn't play Galactic Civ 3 because of the CPU.


i7 6700k R9 390 16 GB RAM - 2016
R9 390 dies for some reason get a 1070 GTX

Got another SSD because 256 GB was to small.

>>389025443
It really all depends on one thing people assume or never mention.

Monitor native resolution and refresh rate.

If you have a 1440p 144hz monitor or 4K/1440p Ultrawide you won't be fine with a 1080Ti in 2 years.

Meanwhile if you have a 1080p 60Hz monitor you'll be fine with a 1060 GTX for years.

I have a 29" Ultrawide 2560×1080 75Hz and I'll be fine with my 1070 GTX for a few years.

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>GTA V on HDD 60 fps
>feels stuttery
>GTA V on SSD 60fps
>smooth as butter

>storage doesn't matter for games

>>389014495
500 GB is 466 GiB

>>389014203
also steam makes this a non-issue, especially with fiber ops internet

>>389025854
You must have a very little ram so the game is loading assets from the HDD.

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>try playing Warhammer Total War on my HDD
>mfw ten minute loading screens
This is pure suffering but I don't play it enough to justify putting it on my small SSD.

>>389014062
>Like a normal person
Like a poor person*.

>>389013942
M.2 for OS
SSD for big games that feature streaming, ie GTAV
HDD for smaller games like factorio or older stuff.
Also I dont think I own any 100GB games...GTAV comes close, think its around 90GB at the moment, had another game that took 60GB but cant remember which one....other than those 2 I dont think anything else Ive installed has come to more than 20GB

https://www.cclonline.com/product/167425/MZ-75E500B/EU/Solid-State-Drives-SSDs-/Samsung-850-EVO-MZ-75E500B-500GB-Solid-State-Drive-SATA-6Gb/s-2-5-inch-Internal-Basic/SSD0106/

Also, this is not expensive, If this sort of thing is out of your price range perhaps you should consider getting a better job or working more hours. If your a child and your parents bought you your shitty computer/console, you should just be grateful for what youve got.

>>389025365
I mean, running your OS off a SSD IS a pretty big QoL improvement, but you don't need to cram every game you own or play on there.

>play unoptimized games with unlocked framerate
>VRRRRRRRRRR
>SSD temp shoots up to 50+
Fuck me why did I get a tiny ass case with some dinky case fan?

>>389014476
What game do you have that requires a 256gb ssd?

>>389026636
Limit the framerate in the gpu software, no vsync lag but no toasting the gpu either

>>389026636
>giving a shit about ssd temps

>>389026636
>>389026863
Better use Rivatuner Statistics Server. It comes with MSI Afterburner.

RTSS has more accurate fps limit than the driver fps limiter, which results in tighter frametimes and loose frametimes is the culprit of stuttering. And if you want it to be even more accurate, use this:
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/the-truth-about-pre-rendering-0.365860/page-12#post-5380262

>>389026010
8?
Also, the game HAS to load from the HDD, it's 60 gigs.

It is stupid to prioritize an SDD if the other parts you have are shit awful. This is only okay if you what you do is create work/school documents or browse online.

>And ramdisk
QOL/faster loading times/etc is better if you use your ram or are you a poorfag that can't afford higher than 32 gigs of ram?

8gig of ram is still gine for vidya right

>>389027610
>>389027610
No I had a E6700 + 460 GTX in 2014.

I that SSD seemed like such a fucking upgrade in overall experience that it felt like a new PC to me.

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>>389027201
you should care anon