Professional female CSGO player speaking about male-to-female

Put down the controller honey, play with this instead.

*unzips dick*

>>388857196
fpbp

Is she literally holding up a spork in her twitter avatar?

Also
>women's CSGO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57URXlu-A4w

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>women

>>388856886
>speaking about male-to-female transgenders being allowed to compete in female-only CSGO tournaments
She is speaking about not allowing them in female-only CSGO tournaments.

I told yo ass many weeks ago, this bitch needs a cock in her mouth to shut her the fuck up.

thats impossible! professor steinowitz told me evolution stopped from the neck up!

I still don't understand why there are female leagues. As far as I know there aren't any restrictions on females when it comes to entry. In a real sports environment it makes sense, but there aren't physical or mental differences in a game environment that could detract from thinking like any other player. Female players complain about the male leagues, but they barely even scratch the surface of practice and dedication the top level players put in.

I don't agree that trans players are cheating. I would agree if the argument was "these females don't put any effort in and mtf trans know that and make money off of their incompetence."

>female only tournaments
fucking retarded
have all-gender tournies and git gud enough to get into them
also >>388857954

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>tfw you will never be born a woman

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>>388856886
>terfs
not even once

>>388856886
>female-only tournaments

what the fuck is this?
are they actually admitting that even their brains can't stand up to males?

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>>388857954
>I still don't understand why there are female leagues.

Same reason there's female-only chess and the female champions lose to men who are nobodies.

>men have different hormones
I'm trans and I have my hormones regularly checked and they have been 100% in the female range for years and years

Honestly why should video games be separated by gender at all? Is she trying to say that women are less intelligent than men?

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i think trannies should be allowed to compete in women's tournaments, because it shows how bad women are at everything

>>388858149
also mental variation is higher in males
more retards and more geniuses

>>388856886
they are legally a female at that point, she has internalized mysoginy and patriarchal binary transphobia

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>>388857954
>In a real sports environment it makes sense, but there aren't physical or mental differences in a game environment

Of course there are, women have different brains.

See >>388857607
>>388858149

When your prehistoric role is to sit at home gestating babies you don't need the same mental sharpness as men, who are out fighting in life-and-death situations over food and territory.

>>388858262
Yes, and the average male IQ is also higher. The difference in extremities of IQ isn't the end of it, like many people incorrectly claim it to be as a way to divert from the truth of the matter.

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>>388856886
She can't have it both ways either stand up and say men and women are different regardless of mutilation to genitals and body or be non judgmental and cool with it.

Personally I find I hilarious that women are all cool with this shit until it impacts them then the truth comes out. "But she's a stong brave woman!" "She's still a man and can't compete in a women's tournament!"

ummm sweetie how about you delete your thread?

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>>388856886
>she basically said men are superior than women

>>388858227
Kill
Yourself

>>388858227
Stop being mentally ill, freak.

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>Women trying futilely to beat men at fighting and competition

Why? Just do what women are good at, instead.

>>388856886
She's redpilled as fuck.

>>388858371
I don't get this chart. Shouldn't the ratio be high on both left and right sides and only low in the middle?

>>388858674
It's an attractive Russian woman, of course she's redpilled.

>there is literally one (1) female chess player who achieved grandmaster
what

>>388856886
It's amusing to watch her try to say that men are superior without actually saying it.

>>388858683
>everyone is either a super genius or a super tard
Dunno

>>388858227
lemme suck ur dick bby

>>388856886
>calling yourself a woman shouldn't be judged, so im gonna judge that they aren't allowed to compete with women
that's judging. i agree trannys shouldn't be allowed to compete in women only events but that's a judgement. the correct one
>men think differently
true
>so they'll have a physical advantage
i don't follow
>in a video game where the only physical aspects are how fast you can move your fingers and wrist
i mean it honestly wouldn't surprise me that men can move their fucking fingers and eyes faster than women. that and our "way of thinking" giving us an advantage is just a pseudo phrase for "men are smarter than women"

this shits dumb.

>>388856886
You already posted this and it already derailed into a thinly veiled /pol/ chimp out thread.

>>388858759
>1
35

out of 1552

>>388858227
pic related

So many stupid women and manginas in this thread. Disgusting, desu. Women can't compete with men in anything at the elite-level given how IQ is distributed for the two genders.

>>388856886
that doesn't make any sense. It has nothing to do with hormones, which trannies replace with female ones. What it has to do with is how the brain develops over puberty, which makes men generally better at pretty much all mental tasks. But I guess you can't admit that as a feminist

>>388858149
>that whole serena williams would get btfo by the 400th ranked man in tennis fiasco
fucking hilarious that people got mad at the guy who even suggested that she wasn't as good as men.

>>388858882

>i don't follow

Thoughts and cognitive processes are physical events. The male brain is better suited to most high-focus, competitive activities.

>>388858613
ha go on thinking your wife is going to be happy with your smaller world, meanwhile she's drooling over that big black world next door

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>>388858759
>In September 2002, in the Russia versus the Rest of the World Match, Polgár finally defeated Garry Kasparov in a game. The tournament was played under rapid rules with 25 minutes per game and a 10-second bonus per move. She won the game with exceptional positional play. Kasparov with black chose the Berlin Defence instead of his usual Sicilian and Polgár proceeded with a line which Kasparov has used himself. Polgár was able to attack with her rooks on Kasparov's king which was still in the centre of the board and when he was two pawns down, Kasparov resigned. The game helped the World team win the match 52–48.
>Upon resigning, Kasparov immediately left by a passageway barred to journalists and photographers. Kasparov had once described Polgár as a "circus puppet" and asserted that women chess players should stick to having children.

lol kasparov was butthurt

>>388858371
>the average woman has negative intelligence

An underlying argument is the definition between innate ability and outside influence.
You expect sugar drinks to be banned, but you can't expect eyeglasses to be banned.

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>>388859108
always good for a laugh

>>388857196
>*unzips dick*
This isn't reddit

>>388858227
There are more men interested in esports, and more of them with brain suited to competition in that space.

It's a matter of comparing normal distribution graphs of the entire population of male and females.

I don't understand why Americans don't get what normal distribution graphs mean. I don't understand why there are still people who think female only tournaments are pejorative when they are the only way female talent can be showcased (since if they were forced to mix with males they would never show up at tournaments).

>>388858227
Taking artificial drugs to change your hormones isn't going to change those y chromosomes into x's, my dude.

>>388859212
When Kasparov got old people started paying him hundreds of thousands to lose to up-and-coming chess players to boost their image. You can watch the games and realize he deliberately gives up pieces.

>>388856886

Well she is right they are not females they just have a mutilated penis

>>388859248
t. reddit

>>388858371
>>388858149
>>388858051
Thank you for enlightening me. Although I have more questions. Are pro players like mimimimichaela an anomaly, or does she put in enough time to develop understanding to play at a high level? She nearly made it into high level FPL. Are the females who climb to the top of the ladders in popular competitive games (third party or not) actually good? I only ask that since I don't believe michaela performed in any high level tourney, so I'm wondering if ladder performance is a good indicator on a female player's potential. In another case there's a Korean female in league that hit the challenger ladder, and an aussie that hits challenger in oceanic and NA constantly.

>>388859212
Let me guess, you read this on Wikipedia?

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/445cwu/censorship_wikipedia_editors_are_trying_to_remove/

>>388859248
>using reddit capitalization
die

Meanwhile in fighting games, women play and sometimes win against men. Some are even top tier players. Being good at games has nothing to do with your gender and everything to do with with how much talent you have and time you are willing to invest.

Dumbass in op should get her priorities straight.

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>>388859317
what do you think the y and x chromosomes do exactly?
Please, explain it to us.

>>388859236
tbf he is 15 years older than them, and a professional, while they were 16 years old and still in high school.

>>388859137
>Thoughts and cognitive processes are physical events
well i'm a simpleton who separates things by mental and physical. i suppose, to me at least, it makes sense that our physically superior brain provides a superior mental ability.

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>>388857196
>Controller
>cs go player

>>388859518
>reddit
>kotakuinaction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/pol/

>>388859513

>mimimichaela

I just googled it, she's playing on a women's team against other women. What do you consider to be her accomplishment here?

>>388859282
I understand that. But the kinds of men who compete at the highest level of any sport or esport are not representative of men as a whole. Men are more likely to be at extremes when it comes to intelligence and competition, which is why there are more men than women in things like competitive video games. But there ARE some women who can compete at that level, even if they are a small minority. Your sex should not matter whatsoever in a competitive video game, all that matters is that the best player wins. The idea that you have to create a female only tournament to get women interested in competitive video gaming is insulting to women.

The statement she is making is that women are biologically inferior to men at video games and thus should not compete with each other, that is simply not true. Men are more likely to be better, this is true, but that doesn't mean that a female video game player has inherently lower potential.

>>388859317
Chromosomes are instructions for the development of your body, that's all.

>>388859518
I did read it on Wikipedia, after googling "judit polgar". I'm a chess fan.

>>388858086
Agreed

The trans thing is such bullshit. You don't even have to due anything to change yourself biologically, all you have to do to invoke being a woman is to say "i am now a woman" and BAM! you just changed your gender.

That means if a man wants to compete with women and DOMINATE all they have to do is say the magic words. They don't need to take hormone, do surgery none of that.

The trans movement is ripe for exploitation.

>>388859797
This is usual, women's olympic sports teams scrimmage against middle school boys' teams and lose.

>>388859869
That's the thinking of sjws. Actual trans people don't want people pretending to be trans further hurting the already pathetic reputation of trans people.

>>388859679
The problem is that nobody actually wants equality, as in equality of opportunity. What they want is equity. They want there to be just as many professional females in fields as there are males, and that's why women's only leagues have to be forced in to existence. And it does a disservice to the best. Separate leagues dooms the best of female competitors to being big fish in a little pond, stuck with a lower level of competition with a bunch of girls who just want to seem like bad bitches but simply aren't driven to succeed the way men are and would give up under that kind of pressure.

>>388856886
Interesting to see a woman who admits to being inferior to men.

>>388859581
Not him, but they sure do more than simply code for hormone levels. There are definitely other areas that differentiate men from women and transgender people being allowed to participate in women's sport shouldn't be allowed unless a compelling argument can be made for a certain individual. Now if esports should even be separated by gender is another question.

>>388859869
I dunno, I wanna say there are hormone requirements in some sports, not that it does much, trans women still dominate.

>>388859658
She was on the edge of making it into the pro league for fpl ladder (which is inclusive to everyone but as far as I know there isn't a single other female in there). I was wondering if her ladder performance could be shown as potential to make it onto a well established team that participates in Majors, and despite being female, could she grow into a professional team?

>>388859581
They determine your gender, sex, genitalia, brain chemistry, body shape, brain capacity. Pretty much whether you are a boy or a girl. Just because the rest of your genetics are so fucked that you produced a higher ratio of estrogen to testosterone than what boys normally have doesn't mean you aren't still a boy.

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>I've fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can’t answer whether it’s because she was born a man or not because I’m not a doctor. I can only say, I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right

When does progressivism stop? Is it when women are being given brain damage and destroyed jaws by transgender men?

>>388859607
it mentions the WTA in a way that implies they had already been competing and doing well in it at that time

>>388859797
>teen boys
Which kind of "teen"?

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>>388859869
I wonder if i can make money off this
just slap on a dress and go to women only competitions

>>388856886
I agree, women are less intelligent than men and are unable to make good choices.

>>388860027
She admits to differences between men and women, not inferiority, there is a huge difference.

>>388860067
>They determine your gender
wrong
>sex
wrong
>genitalia
right
>brain chemistry
wrong
>body shape
wrong
>brain capacity
wrong

Literally all the sex chromosomes do is determine whether or not your gonads develop in to testes or ovaries (well the x chromosome also encodes some information vital to life, since everyone has at least one)

>>388859679
>The idea that you have to create a female only tournament to get women interested in competitive video gaming is insulting to women.
This is hilarious
They have female only competitions for things because otherwise females couldn't compete at all. In chess they have two tournaments:
Everyone
Women only

There are no women in the everyone category, even though the only thing stopping them from being there is their skill.

I hope she's ready to be crucified on the alter of political correctness

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>>388860117
A women's team once snuck a male into their ranks for an online tournament and he completely backpacked them to a win, his kill:death ratio was like 42-8. For reference, the current highest ranked CSGO player, Coldzera, has a career kill-to-death ratio of 1.5

>>388860154
Yeah, differences that, in her own words, give men an advantage. i.e. being superior

>>388858149
Once gene editing and transhumanism is in full swing this is one of the first things we should fix.

>>388859679
>>388859679
>even if they are a minority

There is simply not enough elite female talent to see them regularly at hypothetical mixed tournaments. You would have effectively squeezed all female visibility from tournaments. You say it's insulting to have a female only scene, but without visible marketing like that there would be even less women interested in this space.

I'll stress this again, female only tournaments are to their benefit because:

1) Allows them to gain renown for themselves without being shuttered out by the sheer number of pro males.
2) Showcases female esports players and generates a viral marketing effect that slowly expands the female esports participation (or interest)

>>388857954
>I still don't understand why there are female leagues.
I accidently ended up watching a few minutes of women soccer.

Shit was worse than the things you see on the playground nearby with 6th League teams playing eachother.
And those ''Professional Soccer Women'' were national players participating in a tournament which gets broadcasted everywhere.

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>>388858086

>>388860209
>There are no women in the everyone category
blatant lie, there are 37
http://ratings.fide.com/advaction.phtml?title=g&sex=f
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judit_Polg%C3%A1r

>>388857196
Wait... XD

>>388860154
she literally says that men have such an advantage over women that it's "cheating"

>>388860069
that shouldn't be legal

>>388856886
I wanna have sexual sex with this woman!!!

>>388858235
agreed

>>388856886
I've been waiting for this
To be honest I was hoping it happens in real sports first, just to see the melt down of SJW when they have to decide if they stand with trannies and allow them to dominate womens sports or if they stand with the women and will trample all over the trannies feelings
dis gon b gud

>>388860291
The vast, vast majority of people who play games like cs:go don't play expecting to be a tournament winning elite player at the highest level of competition.

They play it to have fun, usually fun with friends. Are you telling me there needs to be a massive pro scene of all female players for women to even play the game at all for any reason?

>>388859640

Circuitry in your brain connects to circuitry in your body. Body and mind aren't separate, sensory-motor experience plays a huge role in the wiring of the brain.

>>388856886
Males have generally better twitch reactions due to exposure to testosterone

>>388860276
Sure, the same way a cheetah has superior speed to a monkey, but the monkey sure can climb a lot higher and faster then the cheetah can.

>>388860098
Actual teens that time.

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>>388860270
Lmao, but women aren't inferior guys, what does it matter if females can't seem to lead businesses companies, or form half decent sports teams, you're just a virgin, yeah, that'll totally debunk globally common facts.

>>388859212
That's pretty awesome.

>>388860208
is this what passes for college education now

>>388858227
hormones have the biggest impact on brain structure prenatal. after that, and especially when most people dont transition until their teens or later, newly introduced hormones wont have a major effect on brain structure

>>388860516
but women dont have any advantages over men

>>388860516
That's a dumb comparison because whereas monkeys can do things cheetahs can't and vice versa, there is literally nothing women can do better than men

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>>388859964
correct

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Why don't women just behave themselves?

>>388857427
I don't play this game so I can't really tell how big the fuck ups are but the commentators are laughing so am I supposed to assume huge fuck ups?

I mean I can tell how it's stupid to grenade yourself or throw a flashbang that lands directly in front of your teammates but most of the other things just look like noise

>>388860208
Actually you are completely wrong, my friendo. Try reading science journals instead of liberal propaganda.
Genitalia is determined by a balance of estrogen to testosterone (which is made from estrogen) in utero, and the balance of hormones is determined primarily by the x or y chromosome. Everything else that I listed follows directly from that balance as well.

Again, just because you have daddy issues and didn't like how he imposed his patriarchal ideas of how a man should act doesn't mean that you're actually a woman. Hopefully your friends haven't convinced you to cut your dick off yet, so that you might still have some hope of riding this series of bad decisions out.

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>burly ripped as fuck dude, can easily lift
>put ribbon on hair and paint lips
>"hi yes, I'm a woman, I would like to participate in women weightlifting"

Is that fair?

>>388860098
Probably 16-19 year olds vs 18-30 year old women.

>>388856886
Just start to divide sports by sex, instead of by gender.
gg ez

>>388860667
IS THIS A JOJO REFERENCE?

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>actual fuckers defending trannies
They are mental patients, but they want to force people to believe they are normal.
No matter what fucking happens, you can not change what you are born as, you can make believe and play pretend but that won't change a thing. No wonder trannies and loud and obnoxious as fuck.
>"UH YOU DON'T BELIEVE I AM A WOMAN? YOU ARE LITERAL HITLER, I WANT TO MAKE A LAW THAT MAKES 'MISGENDERING' ILLEGAL"
They are the ones that truly deserve the brain zap, not the gays

>>388860815
Are you saying women couldn't compete you sexist pig?

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>>388856886
>Female team only
>good idea
>ever

Yeah I remember

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7onpZl0tayA

>>388860463
The question is whether or not there should be a female only tournament/scene.

The benefit is that it allows women to make esports a career if they choose to do it. Then there's a secondary effect from having increased visibility of these pro female players which generates interest in both getting into esports and trying the game out. This is marketing 101, people buy products if they see a familiar connection.

Never once have I said "there needs to be a massive pro scene" for women to even play the game at all. I never said it was a necessary condition for that to happen. That's some grade A sophistry.

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>>388859216
goddammit that made me laugh

>>388860815
yes
the genders shouldnt be separated in the first place

>>388860807
>completely wrong
But what you said completely agrees with him. Chromosomes determine sex organs, sex organs make hormones which affect the rest of the body

>>388860738
>/pol/ """"""""redpill"""""" pseudoscience with sources from literally whos that appeared only on sham publications that put literally anything with zero peer review or quality control as long as you shell some dosh

>>388860351
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judit_Polg%C3%A1r
>how do i even read tables, the post

>>388857196
Hey a fake gamer dude who doesn't know you play CSGO with a M+KB.

>men and women aren't actually equal when women are at disadvantage

well well well

>>388860738
http://www.snopes.com/women-retain-dna/
False

>>388860815
Just sit back and laugh at it all. Let MTF who still look like men absolutely dominate all rankings of female sports.

>>388860829
Sex is a patriarchal social construct based on a mysoginistic interpretation of """science"""

>>388856886
This was an issue for MtF cyclists that were competing in women's only cats. Eventually you have the natural born women at a disadvantage do to the lack of a surplus of testosterone that all the MtF female would have to do is not take their hormone treatment meds.

I would hope a similar situation occurs without getting to involved in everybody's fee fees. If you are on drugs, for whatever reason, its seen as a cheat in most arenas.

>>388859212
he's an excellent player but he's a giant pile of shit as a human being
his political career was embarrassing

>>388858484
It's moreso understanding the trans-adjective only works on certain levels.

As grotesque and downright silly as it gets, she's still simply defending their identity "desires", just not to outright deny their exact biological functions.

>>388860487
>Body and mind aren't separate
again, i have a very limited education on this shit, and i don't doubt that the body, ie the brain, doesn't effect the mind but i still think the mind and body and different, seperate, things. to put it in 4chan speak i'll say i'm close to ghost in the shell tier logic about the whole thing.

>>388858487
In twitch shooters she did

>>388857427
>that nade on the molotov
My fucking side, that was amazing.

When did /v/ become /pol/ ?

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>>388856886
She is god dam right

>>388856886
>female-only CSGO tournaments
wut

>>388860807
You have it completely backwards and are spouting ignorance from a place of authority because of your political views.
Your genes determine whether your unformed gonads become testes or ovaries. And your testes/ovaries are what produce the hormone balance that cause your genitals to form and all of those other things. How does your idea from these alleged "science journals" even make fucking sense? How are your chromosomes producing sex hormones? Sex hormones are chemical signals produced by glands, such as your gonads for instance. If testosterone production was a function of the y chromosome, women wouldn't have any testosterone at all, and spoiler alert, they do.

>>388856886
this is what reasonable women with a strong father understand brehs, of course we process information differently, only an unstable cunt wouldn't accept this

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>>388857196

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This shit is so fucking simple.

> You complete based on you biological gender

It's that fucking easy but we've become so cucked that people with xy chromosomes can now compete with people with xx, which makes zero fucking sense. https://youtu.be/cl26Xgbltvs

>>388860625
>>388860646
So this is the virgin teen mindset of 2017
This MGTOW cult is weird as fuck.

give it a decade or so, you'll figure out the truth

>>388861141
yes, facts are very sexist and they make you a nazi

>>388858484
Have you only just figured out modern feminism is about double standards?

>>388861236
not an argument

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>professional
>female

>>388861161
The fact you never knew about them til now should ring some alarm bells about the concept.

>>388860880
t. never met a tranny but read lots of /pol/ outrage on the internet

>>388860952
Differences in the brain between the sexes arise in the womb when exposed to androgens. These are permanent, determined by the particular set of chromosomes one has, and don't simply change when taking female hormones in your 20s.

Just because you don't want to believe something doesn't make it any less true

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I've been playing FPS for fifteen years, most of it at a highly competitive level, and have in that time trained with a few girls. I can say conclusively that women have a severe disadvantage at competitive video games.

You will see things like women training from wake until sleep, every day for months, and they still get beaten by men who are putting in a couple hours here and there, or who are not even familiar with the game. I can recall two girls in particular who basically were never not scrimming and they were still nowhere near the top level. And conversely I remember a sixteen year old boy who had never played FPS in his life, but played Quake 3 for six months and was beating the top duelers at the time.

Women are just not wired for it, not for FPS anyway. Maybe there is hope in strategy games. They are supposedly good multitaskers.

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>>388861141
Not believing in tranny bullshit makes you /pol/? I guess anything can make you /pol/ I guess

>>388861141
The thread is relevant to video games, it's specifically about video game competitions. If you put it up in pol they would just tell you to move it here.

>>388861335
you don't even know what you're fucking disagreeing with at this point
You're just obsessed and screaming at anything that doesn't immediately seem like a jesus based condemnation of those dirty trannies. Unironically go back to /pol/

>>388861356
Women are beastly at fighting games and competitive RPGs too too. Dead or Alive and Pokemon are loaded with top tier girl players.

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>>388860594
kek

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We live in a age where a man can claim that he is a woman and win every single female only championship and nobody will say anything

>>388861175
You dumb nigger. Before any fetus becomes male it is female. Before the transition of female to male, if there is an imbalance of hormones, the transition won't happen. You can literally inject estrogen into an XY fetus and make it grow a vagina instead of a penis. It's amazing how people say that their political beliefs are based on science, which can never be wrong therefore they are always right, until it comes to the topic of transgenderism, and it all goes out the window.

>>388861356
the only game with top female gamers that can win tournys i know exists is hearthstone.

>>388861484
>competitive RPGs
>grinding 24/7 is a skill now

>>388861279
Neither is
>nu uh men is better
There is no reason to try to argue with someone who just wants to shout back about hownthey are right, so why would I bother? It's really just something you'll learn from life experience anyway, or you won't, either way, I can't help you.

>>388861356
>supposedly good multitaskers
Multitasking doesn't exist, so no they are not. The brain isn't built or wired to multitask at all, it can only ever focus on one task at a time

the idea of "multi-tasking" is just rapidly switching your focus between tasks, which in turn lowers your overall proficiency than had you have been just focusing on a single task at a time

>>388859607
but they are black, they grow faster

>>388859236
Funny because they had the two in the simpson tennis tourney with the top men who they could never hope to hold a candle to

>>388860098
The brown, wrinkly and bearded kind

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>>388861484
>Dead or Alive and Pokemon are loaded with top tier girl players.

>>388861484
>Women are beastly at fighting games
name one where women compete at the top level with men
>competitive RPGs
what

>>388861558
There are Pokemon tournaments yes.

>>388856886
tournaments are just social constructs

>>388861141
Bout 5 years ago.

>>388860208
Ok, so why do men and women have gender dismorphia when all they're different at is a chromossome?

>>388860285
Fuck off. Inequality in all aspects is natural and good. Putting people on an equal plane just ruins our competitive nature. What's the point of living if you can't make yourself better than everyone else? There must be winners and losers, predators and prey.

>>388861535
Do you even know what that article is about?

A biological female who identified as a boy wanted to compete in boy's wrestling instead of girl's wrestling. They proceeded to play against the girls as they were forced to by the state and dominated as a form of protest, to make a point that they SHOULD be competing against boys and not girls.

>>388856886
there absolutely should not under any circumstances be any female only tournaments for adults in esports

>>388861545
You are literally too stupid to argue with.
The point of the argument is what the x and y chromosomes do. And what they do is change the gonads in to either ovaries or testes which is what determines the hormonal balance which then determines the sexual phenotype that the fetus develops. And you aren't refuting that, you don't even know what you're arguing.

>>388861535
i need to get in on this
how do i find women only competitions to sign up for

its easy money

>>388861308
I've met few and those thing was loud and fucking obnoxious. No wonder not even the gays I've met liked them. And I don't even live in the states.

>>388856886
She's sexist against women and also transphobic.

>>388860807
Well, you got half of the information but that doesn't really tell us (or you, since I don't think you even know what you wrote) how it occurs or why.

At the very least, work on your insults.

>>388860815
Never happens. For physical competitions for trans people they already test their hormone balance in the first place (as they do for everyone to try and avoid steroid use). So good luck to them keeping muscle mass that wouldn't be similar and good luck ever seeing this outside of a whinging hypothetical.

>>388860903
I remember watching TSM on stream completely stomp siren while just laughing their ass off and not even taking the game seriously

>>388861585
Women are just inferior in things like reaction time, this isn't even up for debate its just a fact.

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>>388856886
Reminder that women are better at riding and shooting sports than men.
Lack of testosterone is no excuse for sucking at vidya.

>>388861428
>that meltdown

So pointing out that chromosomes do indeed affect more than just whether you ended up with balls or ovaries makes me /pol/? Ok then

>>388856886
She's a bigot nazi. They should ban her from the tournament and give her spot to a trans

>>388860903
I don't understand why it's so difficult for these women to swallow their damn pride and work as a team. I have to assume most male teams have their own fair share of drama and fighting but at least they can put that shit aside and work together.

>>388860825
no, pretty sure it was 12-15

>>388861141
2006 with ps3 memes

>>388861535
>CNN
How swiftly did the author of that piece get fired? Moreover how was this even allowed on the sit-
>>388861694
Oh okay, now it makes more sense.

If you think about it, men have evolutionarily been weeded out to have faster reaction time through war and conflict whereas women are bred based on breeding potential. Its only natural that men would be better.

>>388861687
Nobody knows. More research is needed on the subject. /pol/tards don't know, although they will pretend to. Sjws don't know, and they pretend to as well. Actual scientists don't know either, but at least they don't claim to know.

>>388861768
>women
>working together
LOL

>>388861824
Then that explains why women do really well in Pokemon tournaments.

>>388861236
fuck off alt-left.

>>388861687
>gender dismorphia
That's not something that exists

Are you talking about gender dysphoria?

>>388861746
Proofs?

>>388860039
>>388860067
FUCK you people are stupid

Like HOLY SHIT

You SERIOUSLY can't even explain it?

>>388861691
>t. capitalist loving cuck that licks the boot of Mr. Sheckelberg for a whopping 0.0000000001 cent/hour
>one day i will own that boot -you

>>388861653
Dead or Alive

>>388861535
>>388861694
This. Please read articles before complaining.

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Women are better at everything you stupid virgin sexists

>>388861923
Don't you have a political science class to be attending today, Timmy?

>>388861910
UGH

>>388861758
Except they don't affect more than that, it's the result of whether you get balls or ovaries that produces all the other effects. And you aren't listening because you somehow think I'm a liberal(which I am not) and that everything I say is an SJW lie. You are retarded.

>>388861694
>they SHOULD be competing against boys and not girls.
Then they would just come in last every time and complain about that.
And if the genders are switched then the opposite happens, and the mtf will dominate in the women's league. It's dumb shit no matter how you do it. Just keep trans out of competing in anything and everything will be fine.

>>388861535

That incident was the opposite of what you described fyi.

> Girl transition
> Taking male hormones which are essentially PED's
> Sweeps the girl's competition as a "boy"

Regardless your half right. A lot of people don't like it and call this shit out.

>>388858051
>have all-gender tournies

Why?

No other competition worth its salt has all-gender divisions that don't inevitably devolve into all male competitions.

>>388861141
Trump. None of this happened under Obama's /v/

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>>388861889

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>>388860069
>roided out male niggers can start saying "I'm a girl now" and beat women to death in competitions

>>388861858
>Nobody knows.
Ok, let me get this straight: you know male and female bodies are different in a consistent way. You know the only difference between all them is the X or Y chromosome. Yet you say with completely certainty that that's not the cause for the differences, and it's something else - which you also can't say what is.

>>388861906
Whatever you want to call it. Why are bodies consistently different when the only thing they differ at is a chromossome.

>>388861585
How about
>No top esports team for any videogame ever has ever contained a female player
Pure coincidence, amirite?

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>>388856886

>>388861653
Not him but, Tanukana in Tekken and Chocoblanka in SF

but there are always outliers, it doesn't mean much

>>388857196
>unzips dick

You rippin' your foreskin, breh?

Reminder that women's worse reaction time is evidence that they are also dumber.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_chronometry#Mental_chronometry_and_cognitive_ability

>Researchers have reported medium-sized correlations between reaction time and measures of intelligence: There is thus a tendency for individuals with higher IQ to be faster on reaction time tests

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6639008 "Correlation between reaction time and intelligence in psychometrically similar groups in America and India."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1953598 "The genetic correlation between intelligence and speed of information processing."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2668913/ "Whole Brain Size and General Mental Ability: A Review"
>Reaction times are so easy to do that 9- to 12-year-old children can perform them in less than 1 s. On these simple tests, children with higher GMA scores perform faster than do children with lower scores, perhaps because reaction time measures the neurophysiological efficiency of the brain's capacity to process information accurately—the same ability measured by intelligence tests (Deary, 2000; Jensen, 2006). Children are not trained to perform well on reaction time tasks (as they are on certain paper-and-pencil tests), so the advantage of those with higher GMA scores on these tasks cannot arise from practice, familiarity, education, or training. Simple reaction time (SRT) measures correlate with IQ ~ 0.20, while more complex choice reaction time (CRT) measures correlate ~0.40. In aggregate, RTs can correlate 0.70 with IQ (Jensen, 2006).

>>388859248
>>388859642
>>388860357
>>388860981
>>388861208
Holy shit, how fucking new?

>>388861768
Women working together is against their nature.

The natural job of a woman is getting impregnated by the alpha male and taking care of the offspring. Other females block the way to success.

Which means women aren't able to contribute to a prosperous civilization unless they move beyond their dumb insticts.
Males have it easy because male instincts are all about becoming the successful most beloved alpha male who gets all the women.
That desire is what pushed progress.

Males build things and work together in order to succeed in life.
Women destroy and deceive in order to get what they want.

It's not their fault.
It's nature.

>>388860807
Do you have any sources of journals about this?

>>388861691
>There must be winners and losers, predators and prey.
guess which one you are

>>388861923
Commie scum

I wasn't even talking about wealth, but genetics. If you're going there, then fuck off with wealth distribution. Survival of the fittest my friend, social darwinism is the way to go.

mods crushing it today

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>>388856886
Confirms how obnoxious trannies are at everything

It's always nice to see the infighting begin and them eat each other up

>>388856886

why would women need their own CSGO tournaments

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>>388856886
>calling youself a woman, however you were born different gender, is not bad and shouldn't be judged.
Sasuga women. Don't know what i expected desu. The earth is flat as well i guess since we shouldn't hurt flat earther feels.

>>388862254
>>Somehow in my pseudo science view a guy can't fuck two girls at once.

I asked my mom this once and she scoffed at me.
Me
>You're born gay
Her
>Lol no you're not. You're gay because society told you it's okay to be gay
Me
>Then why are there gay animals. Oh wait, I forgot that dogs have developed a complex social structure full of personal identities and ethnical norms.
>Animals just do what get their rocks off. Nobody told you them to be gay.

>>388862020
Holy shit. Let me lay it out for you in simple terms

>If A, then B
>If B, then C
>>A, therefore C

So yes, if you have undamaged XY chromosomes then you will develop male traits

And I never said anything about sjws, you either have me confused with another anon or are literally retarded

>>388861736
Yeah, they are, but being inferior overall is different from being inferior in one way.

>>388862125
>He's still talking exclusively about video games
Kek, there are other things in life anon.

>>388862097
The x and y chromosomes are the ultimate cause for sexual differentiation but all they do is trigger that process which is almost entirely controlled by the balance of sexual hormones in a fetus and later on in a pubescent child. Nobody here is arguing against that, and if you weren't a brainlet you'd realize it.
As for why transgender people experience dysphoria, that is what nobody knows. The most sensible explanation is that some error arose in the sexual differentiation of the brain. All other sexually dimorphic parts of the body can get fucked up and become intersexed in rare cases, so why couldn't the brain? People only dismiss the idea because you can't immediately see the brain

>>388859212
Chess is the only game where ragequitting is not only accepted, but recommended.

>>388862298
Not everyone is a basement dweller recieving autismbux like you. Welfare shouldn't exist either.

>>388862204
>sources are some literally who and they are not even peer reviewed
>>>/pol/

>>388860069
>I can’t answer whether it’s because she was born a man
>gee, was it because he was born with extra testosterone, thicker bones, better reflexes, and better motor control?
>I can't actually say or I will get crucified and lose all my sponsorships

When will this shit stop?

>>388861402
Are you questioning how these people feel? There's no way for us to actually know what they're feeling or thinking but assuming these people do experience gender dysphoria, what else is society supposed to do? We can't change how they think, our understanding of the mind is so poor that we can't even remove people's fetishes or effectively treat any other mental illness. So while prescribing hormone treatment and surgery to trans people isn't exactly a great way to treat their illness, I think it's the only real treatment we have that isn't some equivalent of praying the gay away

>>388862465
brainlet who doesn't into chess here, explain?

>>388862454
You have to yet to name anything women are superior in.

>>388862378
He can but women compete among eachother because the alpha male having multiple women never means that all women under him are equal.

There is always a favorite and the favorite breeds the successor.

>>388862454
>He's still talking about videogames on /v/ a board dedicated to videogame discussion
Yes.

>>388862538
explain why women are worse at every game/sport than men

>>388862538
Yes, they are peer reviewed. That's why they are published in journals. Do you know what peer review means?

>>388856886
women are not excluded from playing in male turnaments so males should be able to compete against women. Doesn't even have to be about transgenderism. When it comes to tier 1 esports, women are just not good enough in csgo, the only reason men are not playing in female leagues is that it's not worth it money wise

>>388862568
if you get to a position where you believe you cannot force a win (or a draw, if you're playing professional), it's courtesy to concede. Forcing your opponent to play out the whole game is seen as bad manners.

>>388862568
at a high enough level of play, once you're behind in chess you're pretty much fucked. Continuing the game is just wasting everyone's time.

>>388862421
There is some evidence homosexuality is just a chemical imbalance, and could be 'cured'.

>>388861308
If you friend people from here often enough, you'll eventually come across one. By the way, they actually legit yell "did you just assume my gender!" Happened several times to me even though I wasn't talking about them.
I thought that shit was a meme, I can't believe they actually say that. I tend to avoid them nowadays. Too much mental gymnastics just to play vidya, or talk to someone.

>>388862649
There are quite a bunch of journals that will publish literally anything if you give them enough cash. Even stuff with abhorrent grammar

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>>388862421
>anthropomorphising animals
sorry anon, but you are the retard here

>>388862421
There aren't gay animals. There are just animals who will fuck literally anything because they don't know how to handle their sex drive.
Is that you? Are you admitting that you're a dumb animal that only thinks with his dick?

>>388862667
>the only reason men are not playing in female leagues is that it's not worth it money wise
And the fact that they aren't allowed to participate by the organizers.

>>388862204
So the wikipedia page you linked to doesn't support your statement.

Your other links don't support your statement.

Your last quote about GMA actually has the second ncbi link supporting male and female brains have similar amounts of GMA. Ergo, they won't have much of a difference there.

I really hope you don't do this on any papers you have for classes.

>>388862601
My wife and her friends are all superior to me at sewing, does that mean that men are inferior to women?
>>388862627
Well at least you have video games huh anon?

>>388862769
pretty sure anyone you meet from here who says that is joking. Thin skinned SJW trannies don't make it on 4chan, this place is way too ugh problematic ugh *sighs*

>>388858235
Underrated.

kill all TERFs

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>>388862797
But humans are animals.

>Women are worse at sport
Female bodies are simply weaker.
>Women succeed less in life and usually don't aim for the highest positions
Because hormones. Testosterone is what gives males the desire to reach the top

Third Wave Feminism is cancer because it wants women to stop being women and tells them that being not-male is bad for them and that they should want to be male.

If anything feminism is the most anti female idiology that exists because it exists to destroy femininity

>>388862649
It means they agree with my world view

>>388862848
Expensive as fuck high class professional tailors are usually men.

She's absolutely correct but good luck trying to implement that without getting called sexist and transphobic.

>>388862823
>So the wikipedia page you linked to doesn't support your statement.

Yes it does, it plainly says:
"Researchers have reported medium-sized correlations between reaction time and measures of intelligence: There is thus a tendency for individuals with higher IQ to be faster on reaction time tests"

>Your other links don't support your statement.

Yes they do, they plainly state there is a correlation between good reaction time and good IQ.

>>388862898
Animals also rape and murder each other. The appeal to nature is absurd.

>>388858683
Well, we know where you sit on the chart now.

>>388862967
MtF transsexuals on hormone therapy have less testosterone than biological females

>>388862976
Not an argument, just answer my question anon, what's so hard about that?

>>388859797
Like in my vietnamese comic books

>>388862768
So what you're saying is we don't have a word for that.
Homosexual- sexually attracted to people of one's own sex.
involving or characterized by sexual attraction between people of the same sex.
___-the chemical Imbalance that causes animals to experience sensations differently.

>physical advantage
>mattering
>in a
>fucking video game

What next? Fat fucks whining that they can't compete in E-sports against people that are in shape?

>>388862421
But there aren't gay animals, there are bi animals. There aren't straight animals either for that matter.

t

>>388863059
I did answer you: men who actually try at sewing will generally get better than women, quicker and easier than those women did

>>388862848
quick name 5 top female fashion designers

oh wait they're all gay men because men are better at everything

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>>388856886
>What do you think?

I don't know man. I just want to play video games

>>388863059
just because you specifically are inferior to women, doesnt mean men overall are inferior to women

>>388863047
Instead they get ill and depressed because their brain has no idea how do deal with the lack of male hormones and artificial increase of female hormones resulting into so many trannies committing suicide

>>388859248
*unsheaths katana*

>>388862538
>>388862649
>>388862784
>Muh peer review
REMINDER that this is a common tactic of the left to shut down conservative viewpoints. I've seen it in action all the time. They will reject a factual source if some "intellectuals" that are aligned with them aren't in an article. Marxists have long taken hold of academia and shut out scientists who aren't in line with the agenda.

>>388863089
The brain is physical and it is not the same between men and women.

See:
>>388862204
>>388858371
>>388858149
>>388857607

>>388863138
/thread

>>388863138
you've come to the wrong board, then.

>>388863089
But that's true.
All the extra mass in the arms and fingers gives them higher inertia leading to a lower acceleration assuming constant force from the muscles.
This means that, while their mental reaction time might be the same, the speed at which they can actually execute the desired action is lower since they have to move more mass.

>>388862848
>My wife and her friends are all superior to me at sewing, does that mean that men are inferior to women?
Well if you find enough examples, you'll be able to make a believable case for it, sure. But we still haven't heard a single example because your arguments are about as weak as the entertainment value in your shitposts.

>>388862784
>entire argument based on unproven defamation
Alright, please continue to labor within the realm of fantasy and we will stick to the facts.

And peer reviewed sources state clearly the facts here.

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>>388863180
Just because some women are inferior to some men, doesn't mean all women are inferior to men.

>>388863216
Those sources are all peer reviewed, I'm not sure why you're continuing to bark up this tree.

>>388863212
HRT lowers the risk of suicide tremendously actually. Most people with gender dysphoria kill themselves before ever even trying transition, the rest kill themselves if transition isn't enough to make their lives livable

>>388863216
>MUH MARXIST PLOT CONSPIRACY REPTILIANS JEW TO SHUT IT DOWN THE WHITE RACE ESTROGENS IN THE WATER WHITE GENOCIDE TURNING THE FRICKING FROGS GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!1!11111!!
>>>/pol/
sage

>>388863216
>Marxists
There are almost no marxists in academia. There are a bunch of liberals who don't give a fuck about class, only race and gender.

>>388862457
>The x and y chromosomes are the ultimate cause for sexual differentiation but all they do is trigger that process which is almost entirely controlled by the balance of sexual hormones in a fetus and later on in a pubescent child. Nobody here is arguing against that, and if you weren't a brainlet you'd realize it.
Jesus Christ, can you name one process in the body that doesn't work that way? Everything causes a chain reaction up until the last element. Sugar causes a rise in blood pressure, no one says it's the actual sucrose molecule forcing your blood to pump faster. Insulin causes you to metabolize sugars, no one says it's the last element.
You said:
>brain chemistry
>wrong
>body shape
>wrong
Yet these things aren't wrong at all, you're just whining because they aren't the last element in a metabolic chain, which is retarded.

>>388863337
Yeah, but if the vast majority of women aren't superior to men in anything, they're by definition inferior.

>>388863337
Nobody is arguing that all women are inferior to all men in all ways at all times, which is the hyperbolic thing you've chosen to argue against because it's easier to argue against a silly strawman
What people are saying is that men are generally superior to women in their potential to do things.

>Blatant /pol/ bait thread attracts blatant /pol/ posts and posters

>>388862850
Nah, if you browse tumblr they act that way. Getting triggered at even the mention of gender. I really wish artists didn't post their work there, so I didn't have to go there.

>>388863280
>but that's true

Unless you are some five hundred pound fuck with giant sausage fingers that weight 20 pounds a piece there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to move a joystick and press a goddamn button. And video game "pro" tournaments wouldn't be full of fat fucks.

>If you have XY chromosomes you're a man, if you have XX chromosomes you're a woman
>Well what about intersex?
Can someone explain why people bring up intersex people as an argument? They're their own catagory / defect that is biologically proven to be different.

>>388859236
Cute photo

>>388856886
Its like that episode of futurama where bender gets a sex change to win the womens robot olympics lol

>>388863337
you are right
but on the average men are superior and the top level men are always better than the top level women

>>388862254
>becoming the alpha male doesnt require working against other men

>>388862626
>this doesnt exacerbate the above by creating more fierce competition among males

im not saying women arent catty, but you have no idea what youre talking about

>>388863525
What if trannies are themselves intersex, and it's just their brains that are intersexed?

>>388856886
I think she's a misogynistic bigot.

>caitlyn jenner was named glamour magazine's woman of the year
>ufc fighter fallon fox is allowed to fight women

Get over it, you anti-science alt-right neo nazi bigots! Transwomen are allowed in female only tournaments.

>>388856886
Holy shit.

Kill yourself.

>>388863525
>They're their own catagory
They're not though, there's only two categories, man and woman, and intersex people are categorized as one or the other. Intersex people show that chromosomes are not a 100% accurate way of determining gender

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html
tl;dr
>make women-only feminist company as a matter of principal
>women form cliques
>cliques become hostile to each other over the tiniest shit
>discipline goes to shit
>people don't do their job
>productivity goes to shit
>company goes under

The cherry on top

"And while I stand by my initial reason for excluding male employees - because they have an easy ride in TV - if I were to do it again, I'd definitely employ men. In fact, I'd probably employ only men."

>>388863138
>man
did you just assume my gender?

>>388863504
lol

>>388863525
Intersex are rare enough just to be outliers, they aren't particularly relevant to the discussion.

>>388862082
is this a skit? or link to video?

>>388862421

Shouldn't you be getting ready for school tomorrow

>>388863619
Males work together when they have a common enemy.

Which is why things like the mass (males) end up overthrowing kings.

Women never work together.

>>388857607
>20 male
>have reaction time of 315
what is this bullshit am I retarded

>>388863447
this whole chain of argument started with the typical /pol/ "GOTCHA IM SO CLEVER" post of trannies being unable to change their sex chromosomes, and then people bringing up the fact that those chromosomes have next to nothing to do with all those biological processes once they have started, which they don't.

>>388863662
that one had nothing to do with women, and everything to do with the boss being absolutely shot at their job and letting everything slide.

>>388863564
>white privilege
wow look at me being surprised at her "accomplishments"

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>>388861402
4chan wasn't always anti-trans.

>>388863864
/pol/ newfags can't comprehend the fact that 4chan used to be one of the most trans friendly places on the internet

>>388863470
>>388863501
>>388863610
I can't help but feel like this mentality comes from an extreme inferiority complex that people try to use to feel better by associating themselves to their gender as a means to feel superior when they are failures in life. I hope you all find happiness in life.

>>388863662
>dailymail
Literally britbong Fox News in tabloid form

>>388863814
you mean a random non-sourced MS paint chart might not be entirely accurate?

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>>388863828
>those chromosomes have next to nothing to do with all those biological processes once they have started, which they don't.
Except for the fact that they start them. But you're too indoctrinated to accept that, thus your mental gymnastics.

>>388863409
>Implying I believe all of that
Nice strawman, faggot. Typical Alinsky strategy, defamation and ad hominems.

i miss ron /pol/

trump /pol/ is fucking reddit tier shit

>>388856886
Just because society enables you to be a special snowflake in a world filled with idiots, doesn't mean you have to. Every transgender person is a coward, that's why they revere and glorify each and every "oppressed" individual until there is no perceived fear at all.

>>388863632
>caitlyn jenner was named glamour magazine's woman of the year
didn't bruce jenner crash in to and kill a woman while driving recklessly to get away from paparazzi because he was trying to hide his tranny business?

I'm not even opposed to trans women being woman of the year but for christ's sake you couldn't pick a better tranny than that? Maybe killing a woman that year should disqualify you from being woman of the year

>>388863832
>that one had nothing to do with women, and everything to do with the boss being absolutely shot at their job and letting everything slide.

It definitely had something to do with women. I used to manage several halfway houses, the difference between the male and female ones was insane. You need a male employee to be the informational gatekeeper for the female house because otherwise your phone will be blown up 24/7 with retarded backstabbing drama. It makes the monthly fist fight at the men's centers look like nothing.

>>388863864
Trans right was not always an annoying effort to drag everyone down to their level, just like how feminism used to be sensible and reasonable, until they got what they wanted and then kept finding new things to want to justify the movement.

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>>388863965
>implying you don't

>>388863864
That was before it became a fad and before the SJW microagression wars of 2014

>>388856886
I mean everything she said is true and accurate. Men on average are physically stronger than women, this is a biological fact that cannot be changed. Even women with training such as martial arts can be beaten by a normal man, depending on things of course. This is all on average obviously a chick with martial arts training can take down some skinny virgin easily i'm sure. Men also do think differently, men are much more logical thinkers while women are emotional.

How all of this translates to trannies in counter strike i'm not sure. Some may apply, some doesn't. In physical sports absolutely yes, a tranny playing in women's sports or fighting is extremely unfair and should never be allowed at all. A shooting game that barely even rewards good aim because of retarded bullet spread though, i'm not sure.

>>388863953
>this mentality
you mean relying on facts and statistics instead of your feelings and your own personal narrow experiences

>>388863940
wrong

>>388863963
>Marxist, Leninist
It's "Marxist-Leninist" you fucking retard.
Jesus Christ American education.

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>>388863940
>4chan used to be one of the most trans friendly places on the internet

No it didn't.

t. I've been here for over ten years.

>>388863828
I don't know what you're on about, but this
>those chromosomes have next to nothing to do with all those biological processes once they have started, which they don't.
is a backpedal. You said:
>>388859581
>what do you think the y and x chromosomes do exactly?
>Please, explain it to us.
>>388860067
>They determine your gender, sex, genitalia, brain chemistry, body shape, brain capacity.
>>388860208
>wrong
So it's not wrong, it's just a "yes, but". Chromosomes DO determine your sex, brain chemistry and body shape at the very least.

>>388863940
Just because people enjoyed fucking traps doesn't mean they actually thought deep down they were fucking real women

>>388863963
Your complete non-sequitur of a reply leads me to believe that you are a 13 year old from /pol/ and I will no longer waste my time replying to your bait. Good day.

>>388862421
You do realize there are both natural born homosexuals and those who are homosexual due to childhood trauma or similar shit, right?
Being born gay is fine, however bombarding children with propaganda that "there's a chance that you might be gay (totally normal teehee) so like try sucking a dick" is not.

>>388862557
this. its the tentative medical treatment, so unless you're a doctor that specializes you don't have a more valid opinion than those that do. at the same time, their physical brain structure gives them an advantage over natural women

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>>388857196
fpbp

this thread should be used as an example to the mods that we can have civil non-vidya threads on here as long as they are contained

>>388864140
>ten years
Newfag pls go

>>388856886
wow. finally an actual female that gets it.