Japanese Devs are fine, but it's the former NEET staff that

>>388850226
Where's everybody's weapons in the middle?

who cares, the anime blows so much ass and the only good game in the franchise is the first one

>>388850226
>>388850150
>cool alternate history weeb WWII game
>turns into generic weeb shit
Why did they waste so much potential?

>>388850832
What do you mean? Can't you sense the destructive aura from the power of friendship that's radiating from them?

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>>388850113
>no more valkyria chronicles

>>388850950
>Why did they waste so much potential?

Sega thought
>we can get more money by applying anime pandering (teen school shit) and by putting it on psp

>>388850950
Blame Aniplex, and Sony by extension. Somebody else said this first, but getting involved with them for your projects is the business equivalent of crystal meth. The short term profit gains from all the advertising they shove down people's throats and brainwashing might be great, but once they get into your hit franchise and have a say in it, they're not letting go until they've twisted it into their own image to pander as hard as they can to otaku/fujos and suck every possible merit and cent out of the franchise. By the time they move on, your property's a dried husk and shell of its former glory. Not worth it in the long run.

Starting up playthrough 3 of VC. I just got the medal for finishing up everyone's profiles (gee thanks Musaad for requiring your own playthrough).

How bad are the expert skirmishes going to be?

>>388851904
>How bad are the expert skirmishes going to be?

I wouldn't know, stopped playing once the translations turned caveman tier.

>>388850950
Only the second game wasted shit by getting on the middle school train. The third one is just as good as the first one, setting wise.

>>388851243
It's for the best

>>388850113
Her eyes absorbed her eyebrows.
Japan is so fucking shit, they'll happily drop everything to make generic KAWAII SUGOII DESUUUU~~~~~~~~~ garbage just like the west will drop everything to make MAN JAW FEMINIST NAZI-PUNCHER SUPREME BLACK WOMYN

>>388850113
Someone post that documentary where they admit that anime is made for obsessive otaku. It basically explains what's wrong with modern Japanese entertainment industries.

>>388853820

The one from 2009?

It was pretty sad really. Anime studios couldnt make anime unless it pandered to otaku or else no one would buy the DVDs which is where they get all their profits from, especially if they arent funded by big publishers like Aniplex or Kadokawa.

I mean yeah, most of the animators of these shows and games are passionate in wanting to have cute girls, but it's definitely a dry spell when it comes to meaningful content. Visionaries like Taro Yoko are as rare as they go.

>>388854215
>meaningful content
Japan does not give a single fuck about that kind of thing.

>>388853642
>>388853820
>>388854215

I'm lucky that I don't mind cute moe kawaii girls but shit like >>388850226 is just unacceptable.

Fucking Nip neets take this shit too far. A bunch of shit taste fags, all of them. Don't they ever get sick of the same sort of designs? I mean I like them too but I watch other shows and serious stuff in between my occasional moe SoL too. I'd get burned out on them so fast if that was all I had.

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>>388854717
So do you not know who RAITA is?

>>388855073
Nope.

>>388854542

>Japan does not give a single fuck about that kind of thing.

By that I mean actual polish and quality. I mean look at the majority of Japanese shovelware. Compare titles made in the early 2000s like the first 3 silent hills to either one of the hundreds of run of the mill kusoge or corporate dick stroking like FFXV

>>388855169
I pity you

>>388855382

Just fucking tell me.

>>388855421
Semen capable of language

>>388855471

Elaborate, when I googled it it just came up with Indian food.

Also what does RAITA have to do with my post?

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>>388855885
>he didn't look at the filename

>>388855885
It means you're a newfag that doesn't know shit about japans tastes or popular artists or even basic image searching.

>>388856145
>>388856251

Oh it's an artist.

And no I'm not a newfag I just don't go to /a/.

Get this right, all I do is just download and watch anime. That's all I do. I don't go disusing it on forums, I don't buy fucking figures, I don't show everyone how weeb I am. I just download, and watch anime. Amazing huh.

What the fuck does some doujin artist have to do with my post anyways?

>>388850226
Raita is an effin god

>>388856609
>he's not been here since before Crapawa Shitjo
You're a newfag, plain and simple.

>>388854717
Protip you dont have to buy it or care about it you are not the target audience so fuck off and shut up already

Valk 3 was really good

>>388856609
You must be the dumbest motherfucker I've seen on /v/ this week.

>>388855073
A fucking awful artist. That's what.

>>388856857

I was here long before Kawata Shoujo. I dunno what your problem is.

>OP says it's shit that Japanese neets with shit taste ruin good Jap IP's by turning them into generic anime
>I merely agree with OP despite saying that on occasion I do enjoy the generic anime look too
>jump down my throat about some artist

What is your point?


>>388856912

Again what is your point. I am literally at a loss for what you autistic assholes are getting at here.

>>388857080

Why? Because I didn't know the name of some irrelevant artist.

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>>388850113
>removing such wonderful eyebrows

Nuke them again.

>>388850113
>>388850150
>MAKE THE GIRL MORE MOEBLOB
>MAKE THE GUY MORE EDGY
Modern weeb garbage in a nutshell.

>>388850950
Because
>1 underperforms, better pander hard with 2 and reduce budget
>oops that made it worse, let's keep working on the PSP it'll work this time for sure
>Oh, it didn't. Well fuck it.
>Oh, it's selling well now that it's on something Westerners actually own? Hmmm. We COULD revive the series...
>FUCK IT, let's make a cheap, pandering cash-in for a quick buck!

Sega JP and UK upper management are fucking retarded and it drives everyone else insane.

>>388857192
>I was here long before Kawata Shoujo. I dunno what your problem is.
If that were true you'd know who RAITA is BY FUCKING VIRTUE of all the KS spam we fucking got. And of course because there would always be a RAITA thread on /v/ for a while. She was an obsession of /v/'s, newfag.

>>388856912
Fuck off, NEET scum, your kind is ruining niche media.

>>388857412

I've been here since 2008 and remember when saying you came here in 2008 was considered newfag as well. But now that was 9 years ago.

>entering KS threads

I avoided them like the plague. I did play KS but I didn't bother reading about it online I didn't want spoilers. You are overreacting about some artist for fucks sake. What does RAITA even have to do with Valkyria Chronicles? She draw some art for it or something?

>>388857192
>irrelevant artist.
He's the designer for all three Valkyria games
HIS NAME IS IN THE FIRST FUCKING POST
Raita Honjou

>>388857687
Retard thinks newfags were called newfags because they were "new to the site". It was because of newgrounds, years before.

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>Incidentally, we promoted Chronicles using a theme of a “realistic military”, but when mentioning its strong points we avoided relying on keywords like "guns" and "tanks". While military themes are accepted abroad, we did our best not to frame military terminology in a sense of good versus evil domestically.
>Back during the domestic release of VC1, Alicia and Isara along with other cute girls were used as visuals during marketing, but the moment people noticed a tank, they'd comment "Isn't this a Western game? Won't there be clashing iron and bloodletting?" There were quite a few cases of this interpretation so in order to ease those concerns we placed VC2 in a school setting to redirect those notions. (Editor's Note: ouch. Please keep reading though, please. haha)
>GAMER: I see! I personally like the grittier edge of military themes, but that's a fresh perspective.
>Mikami: Of course, there are many people who share your opinion of enjoying the rougher side of the military. In addition to what Ozawa was talking about before, within Japan there is a lack of familiarity regarding gun culture. In the most extreme examples people would find them very frightening.
>Ozawa: "Swinging a sword" is fantasy, but "shooting a gun" evokes a much more raw feeling, doesn't it?

>>388857687
2008 is -still- newfag cancer.
You idiots never lurked and never grokked the culture.

>>388857749

Okay thanks for explaining. Also just having the name Honjou does not clue me into Raita. As I said, I just download and watch anime. You'd be amazed at how much you miss out on when you don't take part in the fanbase and don't visit /a/ and other weeb boards.

Visiting /v/ made me realize just how fucked the vidya industry was, so I purposefully made an effort to not get into /a/, anime, weeb or Japanese fanbases since I didn't want to ruin them too.

Also I never played Valkyria Chronicles so that could be part of it. I just came in this thread because of OP's image and post were interesting.

>>388857990

Yeah I know but I didn't come here from Newgrounds, I came from fucking GameFAQs. I had already left newgrounds by the time newfags started coming here. Newgrounds was a more early and mid 2000's thing, they'd already stopped updating their adult flash game section for years at that point.

>>388858103
I know guns aren't really a thing in Japan, but is the average citizen REALLY that against them, or that just some dumb excuse to pander to retarded otaku to maximize profits?

>>388858103
>"We should try to avoid strong reactions from our customers."

Do you think people like this understand why they fail to sell copies?

>>388858103
>the japanese are still afraid of militarization

color me surprise

>>388858462

I think gun laws are just that strict. Even the police are not equipped with any firearms.

>>388858103
jesus all the shoehorned moe crap like the pig makes sense now. I never realized how truly cucked the japs were when it comes to this shit
pretty obvious there was internal strife and some wanted to do the war angle, but they had to shove in moe shit to appeal to the fans. a damn shame.

>>388858103

Jesus christ what fucking plebs.

Also what changed between VC's release and now when we have Girls und Panzer, Strike Witches, Uppote, Stella Jogakuin Koutou-ka C3-bu, Kancolle and Gate.

>>388858462
They really just don't have any sort of gun culture.

Even the yakuza lined up to turn in their guns when the government banned them.

>>388858806
Japan's had a steady rise in right-wing nationalism, GATE is a particularly glaring example

>>388858462
>>388858103
call of duty is more popular in japan than most japanese games

it's just sega being fucking mental as usual

>>388858806

Probably the studio is just out of touch.

See, otaku fucking love women in uniform, especially when Humikane popularized them with Strike Witches. With Girls und Panzer now being a immensely popular, I bet the devs must be biting their nails now when they could have struck a goldmine from gun otaku who love girls and tanks.

>>388859062

Tell me more about GATE, I haven't watched it yet. Is it good? How far is the propaganda.

I wanted to watch it when it came out but I can't stand tv rips. I always wait till BD's are out then I forgot to check for the BD releases. They are probably out now right.

When Isara died it tore me the fuck up for like 2 weeks

I was on anti-depressants for a while there so that might have been it, I don't know. Like for real, it literally tore me the fuck up.

>>388859247
Not him but I liked it.

>>388859247

It's a glorified JSDF recruitment show. With China and North Korea constantly harassing Japan's borders, I'm sure the nation is trying to bolster its numbers in case something shitty happens.

>>388859247
>Is it good?
Jesus Christ, no.

> How far is the propaganda.
200% NIPPON STRONK, all other militaries are corrupt and incompetent.

>>388850226
honestly a crime

>>388858462
Both.
VIc's target demo is the age bracket least likely to be taken aback by guns...except for the otaku/NEET market, the majority of which is comprised of sexually frustrated man/womanchildren who want pastel-colored escapism. This fucks over actual enthusiasts, like military hobbyists, history buffs, habitual readers, etc because the Otaku market is supposedly more lucrative.

It's comparable to strong writing in Western games. Most people don't put credit into that, but the most common target demo (young adults and precocious teens) are the most open to the try something weird and new...BUT an inventive story isn't actually as likely to reach mass appeal, so you get "narrative driven games" that read like 9th grade creative writing assignments.

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>>388859329
>being mentally unstable

>>388859247
GATE is basically like an american military propaganda show but with japanese people instead.

>>388859458
I'm not mentally unstable but thanks for trying to be a memelord, appreciate it

>>388859453
>This fucks over actual enthusiasts, like military hobbyists, history buffs, habitual readers, etc because the Otaku market is supposedly more lucrative.
Wrong, the otaku market IS actual enthusiasts or do you not know what otaku means.

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>>388859439
>>388859410
>>388859468
Please ignore these /pol/ retards. It's an anime about cute elf girls first and foremost.

>>388859361
>>388859410
>>388859439
>>388859468

Kek, sounds good. I will give it a watch.

I'm not American but I always liked American military propaganda movies. I must be the only non burger who actually enjoyed them. I think I have a war boner.

>>388859574
>I'm not mentally unstable
>got upset playing a poorly written weeb video game
>takes medication made for people who mentally unbalanced
>defends himself on 4chan
lol if you say so,

>>388859247
The show is one of the most blatant army recruitment campaigns I've seen in decades.

This was toned down from the manga, which in turn was toned down from the novel. It makes GI Joe look like a slam piece on veterans by comparison.

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>>388859591
To be fair the anime otaku and the military otaku demographics don't always align.

It's pretty magical when they do though

>>388859247

I don't understand the appeal, it's like a modern military shitting all over a bunch of dudes with swords

How is it remotely fair, and why are we supposed to be rooting for the guys with guns

>>388859591
I'm talking the stereotypical pop culture Otaku, the JP equivalent of "gamers" who only play Candy Crush and Call of Duty. The morons who buy overpriced $80 blu rays for 3 episodes of a show not because they're intensely invested in animation but because Kanna-chan's boobies made their peepee hard.

Enthusiasts get fucked by "enthusiasts" in every part of the world. I was just pointing to the actual specific niches that would overlap with Valkyria and how they get screwed by capital-O Otaku who pay out the ass for trash.

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>>388859912
>It's pretty magical when they do though

Indeed it is, comrade. indeed it is.

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>make an alternate universe WWII title, some of the plot is dumb but whatever, it's enjoyable
>get an anime adaptation that makes everyone flatout unlikeable and kills vyse
>make a sequel on the PSP that throws the entire tone of the original out the window for high school military academy hijinks
>make another sequel that is japan-only that actually returns to the tone and timeframe of the original that fans clamor for but gets neglected besides artwork

>bring back a remaster the original out of nowhere
>sells like mega hotcakes on PC and PS4 to complete surprise
>tease the idea of new entries or ports
>instead they make an action RPG AU reboot that tosses everything the series established aside for the sake of a Selvaria expy while everything is suddenly fantasy anime with guns as everyone fights giant spider tanks with swords and magic

Why does SEGA hate this series so much? Why are they so bad with handling most of their franchise? When will they rape Atlus more than its already been by Nintendo?

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>>388860167
Imperialist fantasies aside it's got good potential for comedy

>>388860167
Literally USA USA USA but in Nip.
It's the exact same appeal, but stupider because it drags and is terribly directed. At least Chad Thundercock is a fun archetype

>>388860227

Well blame Japans studios for starting that trend. Just like how Bethesda paved the way for cancerous DLC, studios in Japan are also to blame for allowing Otaku to gain foothold on what series sell and what doesnt.

>>388860448
>>388860476

But at least in GI Joe they're fighting people who are on the same power level

This is like watching professional athletes play against retarded middle school cripples and enjoying it

>>388860546
You're pretty dumb if you think that it's a recent thing.

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>>388860694
Which part of "imperialist fantasy" was confusing to you?

>>388860546
Yeah, that's why I said it was comparable to Western gaming situations.

The point is that the quote is only true in regards to a specific group the company thinks they can exploit. You know, like how paid mods is totally a great idea because then console players can get mods too!...even though it fucks the mod community and Beth games are playable on cheap laptops within two years of launch.

>>388860694
Yes, it's a bad show. It's garbage.

That's still the basic appeal, though. It's about feeling good about your country and blowing shit up.

>>388860761

It's not, but it started right around 2006 with the rise of Haruhi and the invention of the term moe, which back then didnt actually mean anything. Flash forward to K-On's inception in 2009, and then we have the dark age of moe that would last a couple of years until Isekai shows became the new cancer in anime.

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>get to the part where Isara dies
>feel absolutely no drive to keep playing

Is the rest of the game worth it? Having your favorite character killed is just a motivation killer

>>388860476
>Literally USA USA USA but in Nip
This. There was even a scene where the JSDF takes out a SEAL team like it's nothing.

>>388854215

>Visionaries like Taro Yoko

you talking about that shit game where they shove that android's ass up on the screen half the time?

>>388860994
I can't tell if you're being ironic or not.

>>388861226
I see you've never played a single Yoko Taro game.

>>388860994
>moe started in 2006

oh boy, where do these freaks come from?

>>388861283

I'm not. You can literally pinpoint a time frame for when otaku took Japanese studios hostage unless they made moe shows. This was during a period where movies like Red Line fucking flopped because no otaku would watch hot chicks and hot rods, but rather want cute innocent girls.

>>388861017

do it for her

>>388861550
Oh my god people like you really do exist.

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>>388861553
SHE'S FUCKING DEAD ANON, WHAT IS THERE LEFT TO DO FOR HER?

>>388861496

Sure, cute girls doing cute things has been around for far earlier than that, moe as a term was first coined by Haruhi in 2006. The term literally didnt exist before then, and there was even a brief period where Japs couldnt agree what it really meant that would be later parodied in Lucky Star.

>>388861716
create world peace through aggressive violence

Who gives a flying fuck? This shit game series wouldn't have magically been better if they went back to WWII theme anyway.

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>>388850113
>killed off vyse for no reason
>added in a love triangle for no fucking reason that was never present in the game at all
>made alicia a thirsty slut who was connately drooling over faldio
Thanks for reminding how garbage that anime was. That aside, I still can't believe how hard Sega fucked up with this franchise. And with that new spin off game they put the final nail in the coffin.

>>388861146
If it had any sort of fun behind it I'd love it, but it's cold, cynical, exploitative propoganda.

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>>388861724
>moe as a term was first coined by Haruhi in 2006. The term literally didnt exist before then

It was coined in the 1990s when the internet exploded and anime fans could converse with eachother somewhere other than the backalleys where they traded bootleg VHS tapes, and it describes character archetypes that have been popular since the 1970s.

>>388851681
I pray Nasu's intense weeb sense allows him to stay strong and protect Fate from turning into generic shit.

Fate is chuuni as fuck but at least it's fun

>>388850113
I WANT TO HOLD HANDS WITH ISARA

>>388862406
Dude, you're nearly a decade late.

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>>388861874
Yeah, the love triangle shit was so dumb. I guess the writers of the anime did it for the sake of adding in drama between characters. It doesn't matter since the anime is non canon trash and should be treated as such. Alicia and Welkin's romance in the game was straightforward and pure.

>>388862406

>thinking Fate isn't weeb already

top kek.

>>388862497
you fucking degenerate
isara is pure

>>388862927
Pure as a ghost

>>388860398
>and kills Vyse
This is what ruined it for me.
You do NOT fuck with him.