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Why is FFVII's cast so memorable and FFVIII's

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Why is FFVII's cast so memorable and FFVIII's so not memorable?
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because ff8 has no cultural cache so you aren't reminded of the existence of ff8's characters as often
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>>388843748
Because Rinoa is the worst character in FF history
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>>388843748
i think it's just because at the time of the games release it was really influential and made a huge impact on the industry. It left a bigger impression on gamers than everything that came out after it.
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>>388843748
It helps that they're a more varied bunch in general.
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Post more stick figure girls
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Squall was awful.
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Why does V still have the best villain after all these years?
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>>388843851
This is the right answer.
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>>388843748
Because it wasn't as ground breaking as VII was Also, the characters didn't stand apart from one another as well as the FFVII cast did. There's no mistaking Vincent and Cloud. There's no mistaking Tifa and Yuffie. What the hell is the difference between Selphie, Quistis, and Rinoa though?
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Because everyone's fucking backstory outside of Rinoa was literally "Hey we all came from the same orphanage, but we forgot somehow. It must be using summons in random battles."
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FFVIII focused too heavily on just Squall and Rinoa, not exactly characters strong enough to carry a game themselves, and had little to no arcs for the rest of the cast
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>>388844027
Here are some but I have no text for them.
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>>388844167
I have to admit that a damn sentient tree is more interesting villain than Kefka or IV final boss.
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>big niggerman with machine-gun arm
>robot cat and moog;e
>literal lion-beast-thing
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Squall aside, FF8's character designs are kinda watered down and bland. Squall has his scar, leather jacket, and weird sword to stand out. The others are kinda whatever. Personality-wise, we're in Squall's head the whole time, but the other cast members kinda step on each other's toes a bit (Rinoa, Zell, Selphie all have a positive outlook and can be bubbly, Zell and Selphie are stupid, Irvine is bland, Quistis is ???)
Zell: Proto-Tidus with a face tattoo
Rinoa: girl in blue dress
Quistis: glasses I guess
Irvine: I have a cowboy hat
Selphie: generic girl

Compare that to FF7
Cloud: Ultra spikey hair and huge sword, edgy 90s attitude
Tifa: Huge honkers, dolphin tail hair, suspenders, childhood friend flashbacks
Barret: Giant angry black man with gun arm who talks like Mr T and swears a lot
Aeris: Girl in dress (she's kinda bad but she dies to make up for it) with feisty personality
Red XIII: Talking dog who almost rapes Aeris, nerd
Cait Sith: This guy sucks but he looks weird and turns out to be a remote-controlled robut
Yuffie: Bubbly ninja who steals your shit. She's from fake Japan
Vincent: Edgelord Vampire
Cid: Cigarette guy who swears a lot, older guu. His visual design doesn't stand out too much but whatever.
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>FFVIII's so not memorable?

???
The fuck does that mean? Maybe for you they were not memorable, for me they were.
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>>388844436
I like Exdeath because he's a simple villain (huge evil knight who just wants to fuck shit up just because and goes "Mwahahaha" every other line of dialogue) who's just very well-executed and memorable because of it.
He's like Bowser or Ganondorf.
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>>388844370
Where is Eiko?
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>>388844370
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Selphie is pretty memorable for me. But everyone else was kinda bland, and the game was sandwiched between two games with much better stories and characters that got way more character development.
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they were so forgettable they literally forgot each other
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>>388843748
because it broke the rule of plot armour,the girl always lives and the good guy always wins and gets the girl

in this case she was killed and made ff7 stand out,i was thinking she was gonna be rezzed up until the end credits
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>>388845637
Kek
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>>388845637
Cheeky cunt
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>>388844370
aries was my 1st ff waifu,but i moved on to lulu and rikku in her x-2 form
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>>388843748
FFVII first game non fantasy medieval setting, big change over JRPG, very distinct design for each character.

FFVIII teenage school love story, characters begin template high school student and teacher.
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Rinoa is a walking plothole and the entire cast acts so fucking retarded, they don't even have memorable character development sequences like every party member in 7 does.
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>>388844254
>selphie
immature, energetic, basically a kid mentally
>quistis
mature despite her young age, confident
>rinoa
boring, normal, love interest
this is what i remember after not having played the game in over a decade probably. if i had played it more recently i'm sure i could be a little more detailed.
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Because of hipster autism and manufactured nostalgia.
IIX is better than VII by any standard possible.
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>>388846610
>IIX
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>>388846610
>learn romans
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>>388843748
>dilly dally shilly shally on aerith
it was tifa you fucking mong
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>>388846610
>IIX
I don't particularly like 7 but 8 isn't better than it
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>>388843748
8's whole story ruined everything about the game besides the actual gameplay. Oh hey we're all actually tards who forgot we knew each other. These magic summons are raping us pretty hard. Hey remember when you used to babysit me?
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>>388846646
>>388846652
>when you don't know about Roman numerals and their late standardization and still feel the need to show your diocy
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VII's cast is very diverse from different backgrounds.

VIII's cast is very alike, similar backgrounds, no different physiques either.

In FFVII, you've got lanky/scrawny Cloud, with Goku hair, and in contrast you've got big and bulky thug nigger Barret, you've got a talking dog, an old Pilot, an emo vampire, a thicc/busty girl, a thin petite girl, and then your average goodie two-shoes girl.

In FF8, you've got three male students, three female students, all the same age, same background (except one), and they're all white with your sterotypical all-around athletic build.
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>>388846610
>IIX
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>>388846895
dumb frogposter
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>>388846998
whoa, maybe diversity was actually a good thing all along?
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It helps that overall FF7 is better written.

FF8 had the problem of too much focus on Squall and Riona. In 7 each character had their arcs and focus sections.

Also in 7 you had a diverse group of people coming together for a common goal. There was more tension as the cast didn't always get along and had their own agendas.
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>>388843748
I like Yuffie
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>>388847302
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>>388847396
Who doesn't?

She's the only girl to kiss Cloud fyi.
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>>388847264
dumb dumb frogposter poster
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>>388847302
Anybody who isn't retarded will tell you that diversity is fine, it's when you force it in to make a "statement" or whatever that it starts getting cringeworthy
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>>388847509
Tifa kisses him with her pussy
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>>388847509
she has the absolute cutest date and cloud proved himself 200% homogay by not banging her on that ride
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>>388847509
but she's 16, and the age of consent in Gold Saucer is win 3 Chocobo Races in a row against Joe and Teioh.
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>>388847816
>16
prime breeding age
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>>388843748
Because VIII is hot garbage. disk 1 is comfy as fuck though
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>>388843748
I really don't find Yuffie or Aerithsth that memorable.
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>>388848002
It did have nice locations, Winhill, Dollet, and Deiling. Also better than Alexandria
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nah, FF8 is fucking good. it's game about Laguna, his travellings, his life all those years, story about students of magic academy, lovestory, technomagic, it's fucking good

But, FF Reishiki is what FF8 should've been. The same, but more accent on war, on magic academy, more accent on school, on magic, on characters.
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Here's mine.
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>>388847602
geordie from star trek was geordie the cheif engineer,hopeless romantic and all round bad ass

no one considered him "le token disabled black man" that is the difference between diversity and ((((((((((diversity)))))))))))))
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>>388845425
>don't touch my butt, fuck it
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>>388843748
Because VIII's cast was made to somewhat resemble human beings (specifically anguished teens), and thus they're less interesting than more fantastic characters with unrealistic personality traits combinations.
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>ff8s so not memorable

Just because you personally connect with certain characters better doesn't mean they aren't memorable
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>>388849309
I.e.

Tifa's the somehow virginal super hot girlnext door that dresses like a hooker and is street smart yet innocent.
Aeris/th's a sassy (likely) prostitute from an ancient race who dresses very conservatively and knows nothing about the world beyond her block.
Yuffie's a beautiful tomboyish teenage ninja, nuff said.
Barret's a giganigga bro with a gun in his arm who protects his friend's daughter from harm.
Cid's an old wifebeater engineer with a knack for explosives and space dreams.
Vincent's a cucked scientist mutant who lived like fucking Dracula for years.
Cait Sith's the fursona of a middleaged chill corporate guy.
And the MC is kind of a douchebag at first but later redeems himself before turning into a vegetable for a while.

Meanwhile
Rinoa's a pure girly asian teen model with barely any personality.
Quistis' an older sister figure for the MC who ends alone.
Selphie's basically a midly cute dumb girl who tags along.
Zell is a goofball.
Irvine's a pussy who likes to act tough.
And the MC is an angsty teen out of Dawson's Creek.

Honorary mentions are Laguna (the cool guy you play as for 30 minutes) and Seifer (the redeemed douchebag with mommy issues), which sadly aren't in your permanent party.
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>>388850690
Essentially, both the female and male parts of 7's cast are simply more amusing and entertaining than 8's boys and girls.

However, that doesn't mean 8's cast isn't memorable. On the contrary, its kinda "realistic" depiction of characters of their age is what sets it apart from the mountain of more fantastic characters of the franchise. It's just 7 is the all time favorite.
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Yuffie stole my materia, and my heart.
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>>388851303
GIVE BACK HEART
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>>388850965
>did you know your party members were actually your childhood playmates?!
yeah super realistic
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>>388851762
Is it really that rare when your world's entire population is so small it barely fills a few cities and towns?
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Because FF8 was a bad game in pretty much all aspects, save for music.
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>>388846554
I remember rinoa being pretty childish at times
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>>388851949
I mean, it's not like there're hundreds of academies.
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>>388851963
it wasnt a bad game,it just wasnt a step up from fft7

if it was called anything else apart from ff8 it would be liked,ive played many of the ps1 and ps2 rpgs even some obscure ones and its not that bad.
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>>388851949
So mercenaries who were drawn from orphans happened to come from the same orphanage. Really not that crazy.
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>>388852262
Yes.
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>>388850690
On that note i could more easily relate to 8's cast when i originally played it back in late 1999.
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