>try out this game because an expansion came out >poor

As much as I hate the whole "purchaseable patch", the new expansion load times are insanely short, like right when Central starts talking the ref light goes on and you can start the mission and skip his dialogue

>playing this game wrong
Definitely. You can't approach XCOM 2 with the same methodology as Enemy Unknown or Enemy Within, since Overwatch has significant aim penalties this time around. It's just not reliable.

Use battle scanners to scout out ahead without triggering any packs. Load them on your grenadiers. Try to eliminate enemy packs as quickly as possible. Within one turn is ideal. Especially since the timers still exist.

>>388834394
overwatch had aim penalty in the other games too

>>388834394
I'm still pretty early in the game, I've just done my third mission and it took me almost half of the day to do those because apparently getting hit is a massive setback to the mission and future missions.

>>388834324
Performance optimizations are not in the base game, only in the WotC client. Which I believe OP has not bought as he says he's "trying the game out"

should i play nuXcom 1 with long war or vanilla

>>388835936
Vanilla. Long war adds a bunch of cool new stuff, but makes the game crazy hard to the point where it just isnt fun anymore.

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>>388834071
Loving it mang

>>388834071
Stop Wasting My Time mod speeds up animations. Quiet Bradford is a must because Central never shuts up without it.

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Are the mods working with WotC?
Also, is the DLC worth the price?

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>CHOSEN ACTIVITY

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>>388834071
And just FYI, if you aren't playing on Iron Man mode, get out.

>poor performance
core 2 duo in 2017 won't play the game well
>long ass loading times
how about using a computer from this millenia that has an ssd
>a single mission feels like a decade has gone by because too many unwanted pauses and animations
this is literally untrue
>inaccurate accuracy percentages
what the fuck does that even mean

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>speeding up or removing animations

And how the fuck would you get awesome screenshots that way?

>>388834071
I just pirated Vanilla XCOM 2 to see if I would enjoy it and am about as far as you are into OP and am having a blast. How did I not know about turn-based strategy being this based?

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>>388836781

>>388835183
I KNOW, I WAS JUST FRIGGIN SAYING JEEEEZ

The timed missions are all about learning to move forward while fighting and while maintaining a good tactical formation that is adaptable to any number of contingencies.

>>388837423
Don't fucking reply to me

I wish the next XCom would have more realistic destruction/ballistics, like Silent Storm had.

Just bought the game yesterday. Should I play my first run with War of the Chosen on, or not?

>>388837590
Yes. All the performance fixes are in the expansion, that alone is a reason to just start with it.

>>388837590
if you've never played this sort of game before, wotc will be overwhelming with how many new mechanics are introduced, you might just drop it if you're threatened
maybe play through the main story with only the previous DLC once on veteran. try to save scum as little as possible

>>388837523
don't you ever (you) me

>>388837523
(You)
>>388837685
They should've patched the base game. The absolute jews

>>388837685
Wunderbar.

>>388837749
I have a colossal boner for tactical RPGs and similar games, and I played the fuck out of X-Com, Xenonauts and Enemy Within. Does that change your answer?

What mods

>>388837990
yes. you're prime for wotc.

>>388837990
not him but yes, go ahead and do WotC

>>388836557
"no"

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>>388838065
AVOID MAJOR MODS AT ALL COSTS ATM THEY WILL FUCK UP YOUR SAVE. WAIT FOR PROPER RELEASE PATCHED FOR WOTC
Only use cosmetic shit. My favorites:
Aiinsley Harriott, Bob Ross, Freeman's Mind, Arnold, Van Darkholme voice packs.

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reapers are the best new class

>>388834897
Oh really? I thought getting shot from an energy rifle is akin to being stung by a bee or something.

>>388837430
aka: fuck snipers

>>388838416
I really liked the Dirty Bomb voice packs.

Hey an expansion eh? I wonder how much the expansion cos---

>$55

What the FUCK IS GOING ON WITH MY VIDEO GAMES INDUSTRY?

It's always so depressing when someone bad at a game does one of these threads, you can feel their sadness and frustration at not understanding it bleeding out of their post.

is shens last gift worth the price of £8

>>388839347
No, SPARKS are dogshit.

>>388834394
just use flashbangs

>>388838416
>tfw want to use nothing but voice mods
>still crashes

I will just keep playing LW2 for now fuck. Ainsley is pretty good.

>>388838631
Actually on my play through I made pretty good use of snipers. Instead of creeping them up and using pistol overwatch you just make them dash until they are in position

>>388838631
how bad/new are you? snipers are shit early game but become absolute gods as soon as they gain squadsight and everything else.

Faggot Here

Does extended timers still work with War of the chosen.

Also any noteworth mods available? Havent played in so long

>The Virgin Heavy Cover
>The Chad Double Move

>>388839783
theres a bunch of modifiers you can pick when starting a new game, one of em is extended timers i believe

>>388839783
WotC has a built in option to double the mission timers, also an option to double avatar time.

>>388839862
>>388839889
Not bad

>>388834071
>anon bitches at the game he is bad at:the thread

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>the mechanized soldiers didn't fit with realism we were going for so they were removed
the developers of this game can just fuck right off

>>388834071
>poor performance
>long ass loading times
Meh, not so bad to me really.
>a single mission feels like a decade has gone by because too many unwanted pauses and animations
>timer
Fucking this. But fear not, there is a mod called "stop wasting my time" that speeds up (slightly, but still) delays during missions and I thing there is a dozen of timer mods because timed missions are fucking shit. Fuck up once in the very beginning of the mission and you are screwed royally. On normal difficulty.

>>388840642
some playtesters probably got freaked out by the idea of being mechanized, but I think the idea of mechanized soldiers is fucking retarded though, and not the cool kind of retard.

>>388839670
this isn't an xcom EU thread

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>>388839113
You've gotta be fucking trolling bruv no one prices an expansion this expen-
>£34.99
FUCK.

>>388841586
it's still a thing in LW2.

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>TFW Evac All doesn't work with WotC yet
At least Stop Wasting My Time works.

>>388839113
You deserve it, leaf.

>>388842050
How about you Stop Wasting My Time with your shitty posts faggot

>>388841586
With The Lost, Squadsight Snipers are really useful in X-com 2's DLC, they can snipe Lost from across the map.

>>388835183
How on earth is that fucking acceptable

>>388843549
Pistol ones are also great if you get the resistance order that turns all hits against lost into instant kills.

>>388838472
>Chosen hides behind anything explosive
>Immediate win

The cheeki breeki stalkers are fucking great.

>>388839889
does it disable achievements

>>388842050
think that and the loot mod are the only ones im waiting on being updated

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>>388836678
>Have to use SSD to reach load times hard drives have had for the last 5 years
>Future trends keep games to this load time with ongoing tech advancements instead of eventually making them instant
Please no

>having any difficulty at all with timers
What the fuck, it is so easy to complete an average mission with 3 turns left if you are not an absolute Fuck up. Like nigga, you should really be complaining about soldiers injury recovery. Fuckers takes 12 days off after getting hit for like 2 bars.

>>388844727
>not having an SDD anyway.

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>check out dlc file size
>nearly 60gb
>mfw

>>388844934
One time I had one soldier that took 1 damage, and another that only had like 2 heath left and the guy who took 1 damage was gravely wounded for 21 days and the one with only 2 health left was minor wounded with 2 day recovery.
Explain that RNG Gods.

>literal performance and bug fix patch with memory leakage
>you only get it if you buy the expansion pack
So fucking sick of this industry and what they're allowed to get away with. I'm not asking for free stuff. I'm asking for them to fix the game I already paid for and they have provably done so. If I pay them more money.

>>388834071
>inaccurate accuracy percentages
what do you mean?

>>388834071
>inaccurate accuracy percentages
kek everytime

>>388834071
>inb4 but mun long war dude lmao
Its shit

>>388845037
People at Fireaxe are bunch of idiots.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=622021770

>>388834071
can i pirate the expansion yet

>>388834071
>download Cheat Engine
>select game process
>"Enable Speed Hack"
>5x
>apply

>>388845491
yes but wait for fitgirl repack

can you run xcom 2 in a window mode without it fucking up everything and pausing the game and muting the sound when you switch focus to another window?

>>388845832
borderless

>>388845924
So I can put it on one of my monitors and shitpost on the other as my opponent is taking his turn?

>>388846017
In most games? Yes. In this pile of shit? Good luck.

>>388834071
>inaccurate accuracy percentages
yeah im sure youre reliable

>>388845771
What's wrong with CODEX

>>388836959
>I just pirated Vanilla XCOM 2 to see if I would enjoy it and am about as far as you are into OP and am having a blast. How did I not know about turn-based strategy being this based?
because everytime a new game comes out that is good and you make a thread on /v/ people will scream SHILL and ruin the threads.

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>playing nu-XCOM

>>388844319
As far as I can tell, no.

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>>388834324
>making engine optimizations paid DLC
There should be a bigger fuss made about this.

>>388846365
Nothing, fitgirl reduces the file size so you waste less time downloading.
>>388846636
Even the previous game was better. The artstyle of 2 is horrible and removing mechanics and lore from the previous game is unacceptable. Not to mention the full on WE staff that inhabits your stupid as all fuck ''base''

>>388846927
>The artstyle of 2 is horrible and removing mechanics and lore from the previous game is unacceptable. Not to mention the full on WE staff that inhabits your stupid as all fuck ''base''
nigger

>>388836557
Iron man is for nerds with too much free time

>>388846927
>WE staff

You mean ONE black staff member? On a ship full of people from all over the world like best girl Vahlen?

>Reapers/Skirmishers get their own mission to get them to join you
>Templars join no prob once contacted
They planning on releasing a quest for them too?
Doesn't really make sense since before that mission it was clearly said they hate each other.

Really trying to enjoy WotC but the current lack of mods to fix all the UI flaws and delays makes it very hard. I'll probably end up abandoning the playthrough halfways through when I have to spend another 30 seconds waiting for enemies to finish their turns while a script is stuck and nothing happens.
It's such a flawed game and I wonder why they never fixed all the bugs it has. The memory leak is also still present in WotC as I encountered twice after having the game running for 8 hours or so.

>>388847152
>perfect steak is for ramsays with too much free time

>>388847542
Yeah, I was expecting more of a build-up, like 30 seconds after meeting they were ready to die for each other.

>>388846753
>playing autismcom

>>388841601
If you want to get it go to GMG. I think it's 29 squid or something.
Honestly as good as the expansion is you might as well wait for the first sale so all the mods are up and running.

>>388836557
>just bug my shit up man

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>>388844990
>30 gb download

all the advice and answers in the world won't make my soldiers fucking hit their fucking targets.

when i play that game i just miss everything. i don't think i've played a more bullshit game.

>>388834071
>inaccurate accuracy percentages
Awww, is babby mad that his 80% shot missed??

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>>388847872
>having greater control over your operatives and base + battlefield destructibility is autism

>>388846865
People were making a fuss back when Enemy Within did this exact thing. But when the same company does the same thing again, it's not such a controversy anymore.

>>388848236
you're supposed to flank and destroy cover with explosives

>>388848403
having the time to figure out the UI of that shitty game requires autism. also, lmao0atmosphere

>>388848236
>Use grenades to remove cover
>Try to flank enemy
>Try to keep a shotgun-user or two around due to tier god-tier accuracy at close range

>nothing has topped Long War 1 yet

I feel like they just stopped trying

>>388848595
>long war 1
>good

>>388838631
Even after all the whining about snipers, I keep one on every mission in a position that covers most of the map I'll be traversing.

They rape everything and the only trouble I've ever had is knowing when to have them start running towards the extraction.

I'm not the best player in the world but it's been working pretty god damn well for me. Anything that gets in the sights of my sniper is generally fucked and I can't say that about any of my other classes.

>>388848704
name a better xcom experience than LW 3.0 early-mid game
>inb4 you're just a casual shitter

>>388848829
>early-mid
of course you leave out late-game

>>388848874
yeah, so what? there's still nothing better than that

>>388845194
>Be you.
>Be high ranking xcom veteran.
>This mission should be easy for once. Couple of Advent troops spotted nosing around a resistance settlement. They'll never know what hit them.
>Spot a large boulder that would make for great cover.
>stub your toe on a small rock as you make your way over.
>"WE NEED AN EVAC" one of your squad mates screams out. He takes a pot shot at the Advent soldiers revealing your position.
>Another squad mate pushes you down on to a stretcher and straps you down tight. "JUST HANG IN THERE MAJOR WE'LL GET YOU OUT OF HERE. CENTRAL PREPARE THE MEDICAL BAYS FOR AN EMERGENCY WE NEED IMMEDIATE EVAC THE MAJOR HAS BEEN GRAVELY WOUNDED."
>No! I'm fine. It's just A-
>You get tranquilized by your squad mate.
>I need you to stay calm, major.
>You wake up with Central looking down at you with a grave expression.
>"The others?"
>"I'm afraid they didn't make it back, Major."
>"But I just stubbed my-"
>"About that ... the commander has insisted you take 60 days of medical leave before returning to duty."
Just XCOM things...

>>388848829
og xcom or openxcom

>>388839505

They've been re-balanced in WOTC

>>388849678
And they are still shit.

>>388849678
their upgrade abilities suck, still

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Just play the better version

>>388849879
fisher price xcom

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>>388848829


Mario + Rabbids

>>388849763
>>388849815

...oh. Okay then.

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>so many mods broken because expansion

ALL THOSE CLASSES

ALL THOSE EXTRA ALIUMS

I hope the guys who made them update them

>>388849976
>how will people know how mature I'am if they see those bright colors on the screen?

sad

>>388836678
>how about using a computer from this millenia that has an ssd

>implying im going to put this 69 GB game on my SSD

>>388850974
It's not about colors, it's about being simplified even comparing to firaxiscom
X-com>XCOM's with lw>XCOM's vanilla>mario-com

>>388850191
>I hope the guys who made them update them

fat fucking chance to be quite honest, the bad thing about mods is that I have grown way too attached to them after spending an eternity with them with LW2, even though almost 99% of the mods I use are purely cosmetic.

Is the DLC a separate campaign or is it one of those expansions that just expands on the base game?
Because I'm still downloading the DLC and I don't want to touch vanilla if I have to start all over again.

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>>388850191
>Uniform mod hasn't been updated
>I have to customize each soldier individually

>>388852505
latter

>>388836781

Im not playing games to jack off to 3d tryhard shit like some sort of fucking loser.

>>388839570
I've found those to be completely unreliable. Everytime i use them, the enemy accuracy doesn't seem to diminish in any way.

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>>388844990
>Mission one after gatecrasher
>grenadier and ranger are wounded
>so my squad is sniper, support and two rookies
>don't manage to kill an officer immediately
>he calls down reinforcements
>crits one of my rookies in cover
>reinforcements arrive
>expect like two basic troopers
>mfw pic related jumps out
All surviving XCOM operatives are secure. Firebrand returning to base.

And thus began a playthrough where I didn't have a single engineer for like 2 months and a half.

>>388852962
they give -20 aim. also reduce mobility and blocks most special abilities. they were better in EU

>>388852864
So I can be in the middle of vanilla then just add it on later without it breaking anything?

>>388852962

They block abilities movement ranges too, mind.

>>388853186
no

>>388853278
No as in it won't break anything or no i can't be in the middle of the game.

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>>388852921

>>388853370
latter

How do you deal with those Capture/Neutralize VIP missions?
The VIPs are literally surrounded by enemies it's almost impossible to capture them alive.

>>388853172
If you are on Legendary you should have restarted the campaign already as 2 months delay is a death sentence due to the avatar project. In WotC the region links have changed and you usually end having to unlock a linear and very long chain to get to the last facility, means can't do this until late in the game and 2 months is too long to catch up - unless you're very lucky with RNG and get enough intel and supplies to unlock regions quickly in a row.

>>388853565
You kill the enemies, then run into capture the guy and carry him away. If you aggro them from range they usually run towards you while the VIP doesn't.
Scouting is very important so bring a Reaper on every timed mission with a potentially defended objective. If you're early in the game and there's a Chosen or Ruler who might interfere with the capture just kill the VIP from range with a few units and get the hell out.

Who the fuck actually paid 40 dollars to get aliens shittalking to you everytime you launch/finish a mission?

>>388853898
Your crew is even making fun of them talking so much a few times. Tygan, Central and the chick from engineering all have unique remarks. Some during missions, some in the Avenger.

>>388836379
>Bloodbowl
My nigga

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>>388854071
>Upgrading soldiers
>Central swings by and chimes in "And you thought I talked too much"

>>388853590
You seem like someone who knows what they're doing

What rooms should I be focused on building first?

I have 2 engineers - I built a guerilla tactics school because I got one of those temporary breakthroughs for it, and I built a power station so I could build out multiple rooms. I assume I should build a proving grounds next but after that I can never tell what I should be focusing on. Comms? Rush to Psionics?

anyone else who hate the random little plateaus that are in the rural maps? enemy unknown UFO maps had much better terrain

>>388853590
It's just classic, so I was able to turn it around eventually. That was still my dumbest start to a campaign ever and this is my first fucking playthrough of WotC

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Man I love the game but the Rulers rustle my jimmies way too much. I've somehow managed to defeat the Viper and Berserker Rulers but the Archion one keeps raping my team to the point of rage quitting. Ruler reactions just are so unfair, especially with the VIP extraction missions where moving the VIP takes one turn.

Any protips?

>mfw the said fucker appears out of thin air and starts lifting my colonels in the air.

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don;t have my paycheck yet

i heard they completely changed gatecrasher. is it still a pain in the ass to get through it with no casualties on legend ironman? i remember having to restart it 20 times just to succeed in not losing anyone previous playthroughs

>>388836557
Iron Man mode is for brainlets. What you are supposed to do is play regular mode with an Iron Man ruleset, but reload if the game glitches.

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>meet dream waifu 5 min into the game
>tfw no delicious brown propaganda spewing femdom gf

How do i get new hero classes?

>>388855313
talk with the leaders

>>388836468
Capn Bub's and Stop Wasting My Time are

>Assassin gets immunity to explosives
IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS

>>388855313
Your soldiers have four different classes, Ranger, Grenadier, Sniper and Support.
You can research Sectoids and then Psionics to turn a soldier into a psyker.
With the Shen's Last Gift DLC you can build Spark robots in the proving grounds (you need to finish their story mission first, depending on how you configured the DLC).
You get a Reaper after the mandatory mission early on.
You get a Skirmisher after the Reaper mission is done and you did a special commando operation plus an additional small recovery mission.
You get a Templar after doing a special commando operation. You may or may not need to have the other two first, I don't know.

>>388854750
Haven't they changed it so that the Rulers get a bunch of free actions rather than a reaction to everything you do now?

>>388855889
my assassin has weakness to explosives kek

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Any changes to alien hunter bosses with WotC? Are they still artificial difficulty?

>>388856323
they are supposed to be LMAO DAS XCOM DOOD so yeah, still basicly the same shit

>>388855982
Well not in my game they have. Would take that anyday instead of the current system.

>>388856323
they won't always Ruler React, and you're warned when they're going to show up. Just pack Frost Bombs and you'll be fine

>>388854518
There are a few ways of room progression and they depend a bit on RNG and a bit on what you want to do.

The GTS should indeed be your first upgrade as it allows to increase squad size which is very important and makes things a lot easier as your inexperienced soldiers might miss a shot and you then need another soldier to secure a kill.

If you are short on engineers or expect to be, yet have enough supplies, you can get a Workshop up early in the middle field two rows down. This way you can double 1 or 2 engineers (when upgraded) to get 2 or 4 respectively to be used in adjacent rooms, even on excavation.

You can build a Resistance Ring now as the WotC resistance ops effects/rewards are pretty strong and help you ugprade your soldiers, too.

If you did get the Workshop and you can afford to waste the research and resources on it you could aim for a Comms room to get more income in the long run. This is very expensive though as you need intel and supplies to expand on the world map, though you quickly get your supply investment back with rewards for monthly cycles. If you do that can also start to slowly move towards Avatar facilities to avoid any future pressure in case RNG fucks up other attempts to stall the progress.

If you ever want any PSI trained soldier at all the PSI lab has to come next due to how long it takes to train and level the soldiers. You should build it on a power coil if possible as fully upgraded it takes 10 power (which becomes 0 on the coil). That is more saved than you'd get from building a Rower Relay on it.

With WotC and your troops becoming tired you shouldn't have had issues with healing rate but you can next build the Infirmary, though it's mostly to remove negative traits that make your soldiers useless as you will continue to rotate between 2-3 squads anyways.

The Proving Ground is next, then Shadow Chamber (build on power coil).

>>388856998
>not Resistance Ring first
get it together

I've been seeing RNG thrown a lot in this thread.
Why is this game so reliant on RNG?

>>388857628
People memeing about 99% chance to hit and they miss.

>>388857580
how's rookie mode?

>>388857628
hit/miss from gunfire is determined by accuracy %, so it's chance based (but the chance can be manipulated)

>>388857840
on Commander, try again

>>388858085
you're not tricking anyone, mate

Does anyone know if I can just add the DLC later?
Will I have to start from the beginning?

>>388858767
I would also like to know this. Just started a fresh Vanilla XCOM playthrough.

>>388858767
latter

>>388858859
Well that sux ass

>>388857628
coming from the og X-coms, RNG is more prevelent in the firaxis ones. In the originals, bullets were actually bullets and could hit shit even if you "missed" so if your right in front of an ayy the bullet is pretty much always going to hit since the deviation of a miss from RNG would still put in in contact with the ayy and damage them while in the new games a bullet could pass through an ayy and won't hit because the RNG decided it was a miss.

>>388857580
I wouldn't do that for sakes of RNG. The GTS is always the safer option. If you lose a high XP soldier to a bad combat roll situation it sets you back more significantly than it did before WotC due to the time it takes to level a new one - after a mission (or two short ones) they are too tired and need to rest, so they level slower and you unlock important upgrades (not even mentioning soldier performance) far later than you did before WotC where you pretty much just used the same guys for each mission.
The later Resistance Ring also enables you to save over a month on construction delays by getting the Workshop, which is crucial mid-game to not get progress blocked. WotC has fairly tight timings on avatar progress as you often have to crawl around the worldmap to a facility and 30 days combined with XCOM typical RNG can cost you the campaign.
The interesting Resistance Ring missions are also rank capped and you have to level a few classes first to get important things done. Even later in the game towards trying to make a move against the individual Chosen you will find XP being short in supply for the Ring operations unless you min-maxed perfectly. A delay of 3 weeks on the RR really isn't that big of an issue.

>>388858767
>>388858821
Unless you play on low difficulty (you shouldn't, it makes the game far less fun) or save and reload a lot it's likely your XCOM campaign fails on your first playthrough as you weren't fully aware of all necessary mechanics.
War of the Chosen in itself is a wholly different campaign with different progression mechanics and therefore you can't use it on a default campain - unlike other games WotC does not take place after the main campaign, it takes place on the side and brings a lot new stuff to it so you have to start fresh with it enabled.
The same goes for the other DLC, they're meant to be done on the side of a campaign, not after one is nearly finished - there are gear upgrades and as such progression analog to the normal gear upgrades in them (and increasingly more difficult enemies, too).

>>388834071
hoiw the fuck do i start the new expansion? do I just start a new game? I feel like I am doing something wrong and just playing the regular xcom 2. It's installed, is that enough to have it come up in game? What the fuck.

>>388860558
you have to pick it in the launcher

>>388860695
fuucking christ.

>>388860558
are you american? in the xcom 2 launcher you click the big button that says "war of the chosen"

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>>388834071
Came for the tacticool operators operating some operations, stayed for the ayy lmao hybrd-on unwashed hairy cheeki breeki woman romance.

>>388843797
why the fuck would get that order though, zombies are already easy as shit to kill, dont need to waste a reaper order slot on killing them faster

>>388834071
Playing Long War 2 now and have never played vanilla XCOM 2. Did I make a huge mistake?

The game feels like a huge drag and intel seems completely useless.

>Paying to fix load times
>Paying to fix performance
>Paying to fix timers
I hate it but I still did it.
I'm a cuck.

>>388861243
they get a lot more health as time progresses

>>388861243
Dunno, taking down a brute with free action pistol shot sounds pretty nice.

>>388855197
It bothers me that everyone keeps twisting their heads constantly in the intro.

Does this game still have time limited? This is the main reason I did not buy Xcom 2 because guys memed the time limited stuff so hard.

>>388861243
killing every zombie on the map with one action?

>>388862271
The Avatar project is an absolute joke now. You can play the strategic layer indefinitely.

As for normal missions there are loads of ones where there are no timers, there are ones where the timer doesnt start before you break concealment, and so forth.

Its a very different game from vanilla xcom2

>>388847152
>"Iron man is for nerds with too much free time" the faggot says as he spends his evening shitposting on /v/

>>388855045
We all know you reload when you fuck up and then tell yourself you beat the game on iron man.

>>388834071
>Inaccurate accuracy percentages

Wrong.

>>388860885
I'm not. I did not notice I could click it. I just thought it shows what's installed.

The XCOM expansion was just with the base game, I thought it to be the same with this one.

I just bought this game over the weekend with Shen's Last Gift and the Alien Ruler dlcs. I started a Rookie play through because I haven't played an XCOM game before and the next difficulty suggested familiarity with it.

Now that I have a hang of the mechanics, should I start over on a higher difficulty or carry on with Rookie? If start over, what difficulty should a new(ish) player start on?

>>388864975
you had to select EW in the EU launcher, though

>>388865046
just up the difficulty from the menu

>>388862271
There is an option to double the timers in the campaign starting menus. You can also double HP of everything or make dark events permanent. Aside from that there are a few new things to mess with mission and Avatar project timers like special resistance projects that reduce Avatar progress or passive traits that prevent a mission timer from starting until your squad is discovered and out of initial concealment. When a Chosen appears in a mission the timer is halted until he's defeated (in case you don't withrdaw).

I'd not double them though - active management is now part of gameplay and you have plenty of tools to handle timers. Doubling them just removes this aspect of WotC. Keep in mind that losing a mission due to shit going wrong is part of the game. It's a lot more fun if things can go sideways (like mission objectives dying, you running out of time or all kinds of other shit). This means you might lose stuff and have to make progress back but that in itself is a challenge. XCOM in itself is like a roguelike - sometimes you get far after many hours but still die to awful circumstances and lose progress.

>>388865239
Guess I didn't remember it correctly then.

Anyone know if you can get the regular XCOM 2 achievements by playing the expansion? Like the one for completing the game on legend difficulty?

Jesus fuck chosen bases are hard as hell. I assaulted the assassin one because she had 4 bars of xcom knowledge so I figured it was imperative to do it soon, and I got fucked so hard. The real meme is that you only get ONE CHANCE in your entire campaign to assault each base, if you fail you're stuck with that chosen forever. I'm playing on iron man as well so I'm just gonna have to deal with assassin fucking with me for the rest of the game.

Here's a piece of advice: wait until you're completely decked out before attacking a base.

>>388865313
Oh, true. I was savescumming, so I kind of want to give it an honest fresh start with accepting mistakes. Is the second difficulty a good diving board or what? Also, what does difficulty effect?

>>388865390
you think that's bad, my Assassin had immunity to explosives

so the Claymore went from my best weapon to completely useless

>>388865390
haha loser

>>388865567
Legend is a meme.
They took shit notes from LW so bloated hp and ridiculous length on building/wound recovery.

>>388865046
The only difficulties worth playing on are Commander and Legend. Legend is perfect min-maxing terrotorry though and not for beginners at all. On top RNG can fuck you so hard that you lose the entire campaign if too things beyond your control go wrong.
Commander is the way it's meant to be played and the way you have a decent challenge. Rookie is the worst choice you could have made as it reduces the amount of enemies in a pack and that means the game isn't challenging at all and mostly feels tedious as you don't even have to think about what to do as you outnumber and thus outgun the enemy at all times.

>>388865567
once you're on Commander or higher, grenades aren't a guaranteed kill on Advent Troopers and let me tell you that really changes how you approach things

>>388859910
Gotcha, I just started on Rookie since I am brand new to the genre, once I get a good grasp I'll probably bump it up to normie before purchasing Chosen. Thanks goy.

>>388859556
What's the room that allows you to use the ability points on regular soldiers to level up like how the faction-based soldiers level up? Or am I just wrong and that's only unique to them?

>>388865567
difficulty affect enemy stats like HP

>>388854967

Gatecrasher now has a 50/50 chance of either being the normal map type or a new, more manageable type with bridges and no giant blocks of indestructable cover. Flawlessing it is easier than ever because the game starts you with a hero unit and three rookies if you turn off the story content tutorial for the resistance fighters and the lost.

>>388866074
The Training Center but it's useless early on until you have a ton of AP saved to buy the abilities. Late game it's overpowered though because with a bit of RNG on the non-class perks in the bottom row you can create insanely strong builds that trivialize the entire game.

>>388836557
Too early for iron man. i already had 2 crashes. wait for a patch or 2.

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>>388865390
>Assaulted the assassin base as soon as it was available
>Forgot Mox had fear of chosen as a trait
>It activates every time the assassin respawns

The missions afterwards were a shitshow as well, and now I only have 3 soldiers left who aren't tired or wounded, two of which are rookies.

>>388867000
that nothing in my run he go obsessive reload.

Do you have any idea how useless he became without his extra turn abilities.

>>388855756
>and Stop Wasting My Time are
Fuck yeah. Impossible to play this game without that.

>>388866601
What's the RNG aspect of it?

>>388867460
3rd skill they roll is random.

>>388867460
it's like the AWC, bonus abilities are random

>>388867460
Random hidden skills solder have. Some are very overpowering. like guaranteed critical hits. Cost a bunch of AP but still crazy OP.

>>388867540
>>388867587
>>388867713
Do those unlock at random time I suppose like the AWC bonuses did?

Also is it okay to install Capnbubs Accessories in the middle of a save?

AH YEH DAT'S X-COM BABY xD PREPARE TO DIE

>>388867893
they have a chance to unlock after every promotion post-Squaddie, but you can't miss out on them

>>388867893
It's same screen like on faction heroes.

>>388867893
>Do those unlock at random time I suppose like the AWC bonuses did?

no. Use AP to unlock it at the training room. But they do have to be the right rank or above.

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>War of the Chosen torrent chugging along at 10kb/s

What the fuck

>>388867893
Would it be safe to also install the Gotcha Again mod in the middle of a save?

>>388867460
Just to clarify what the others already said:
In that new upgrade screen you access via the Training Center you can spend AP to unlock the other class abilities you didn't pick when levelling up (means you can unlock the full tree if you have enough AP) but you also get a third choice that isn't visible in the talent tree at the bottom row. These did technically exist in vanilla XCOM2 already as random levelup rewards - sometimes you got a cross-class ability on a soldier when levelling up. Now they can be unlocked for AP instead.
As such you can get abilities or passives other classes have and there are some incredibly good synergies but if that third perk per rank is useful depends on luck alone. Without mods there's no way to see which ones you will get at higher levels so you have to level the soldier up and throw him away if the rolls were not good and you want specific ones. This is obviously not viable as levelling soldiers takes too long. In the end someone with great luck might get a super soldier while someone without gets garbage perks with little to no synergy to the class itself. Though there's no need for the third perk to beat the game anyways, it's merely for sakes of building totally overpowered and broken dudes with endlessly changing attacks or silly surviability.

>>388868578
with turn on the target preview in options

>>388868951
It's not the same, they did a half-ass job on it.

I only started playing vanilla xcom but I still feel I'm getting my ass kicked in, considering that I'm savescumming like there's no tomorrow. How do I git gud?

>>388836557

>run across a save destroying bug

It's happened to all three of my attempts at ironman on the first fireaxis Xcom. Never again.

>>388869452
use full cover, use explosives to remove enemy cover, try to flank, get up close with shotgunners

>>388869452
practice. Take time to learn all the little things. like sectoids racing to raise dead rather than shooting near dead units.

>>388869452
Have a backup plan
Literally, make a plan about backing up
Then flank the enemy as they chase you

>>388869452
Half-cover is no cover
Manouvere then fire; actively take a flank shot over staying where you are
Destroy enemy cover with nades
Bait them with one soldier and pull him back so they chase into an overwatch trap
Always have two ways at least to theoretically kill every alien
Alpha strike as much as possible
Use your abilities relatively freely, 'saving' them too much and sitting on them just gives the ayyys more chance to kill you
You can yellow move for the first 1 or 2 turns usually
Specialists can hack from anywhere as long as they have LOS
Give your first Ranger the Phantom power, use him to scout, and on Retaliation missions to rescue people
Get Battle Scanners for your first Retalliation if possible, definitely for second
Shotgun critical hits on flanked enemies usually kill them in one shot
Combat Protocol
GTS, rush Sargeants, AWS, Power, Workshop or Radio
Modular Weps, Xeno Whatever, Advent Officer, Advent Trooper, Reistance Comms, Mag Weps, maybe Mimic Beacons depending on difficulty

I dunno I thnk that's all the early game shit I can think of

>>388841601
>Not preordering it for like £26 from Greenmangaming with a 10% off voucher you found on the net with a simple google search

Everyone says to build the GTS but in the expansion you need a captain rank unit to buy anything, even the 5th squad member. And that takes forever between tiredness and people getting shafted from combat for whole months.

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>>388836547
>THE CHOSEN ASSASSIN APPEARS!

>>388871875
5th squad member is Sergeant

>>388852630
>Not customizing each soldier indivisually, writing their entire life story, imaginging their relationships with your other characters

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found the mod to save this game

>>388873035
Butt why