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What's your wishlist? >More Saltzpyre >Weapons with

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What's your wishlist?
>More Saltzpyre
>Weapons with clearly defined purpose
>Loot system allows you to pick items below your roll
>More Skaven clans and specials
>Hellpit abomination boss fight
>Visiting a Skaven city
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I want some other side than vermin to pop up too.
Give me chaos cultists to kill, goddamnit.
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>more skaven instead of new races
>same characters from last game instead of new ones

No thanks. Might as well not even make a new game if they're gonna stick with the same old shit.
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>>388831167
Might be beastmen this time judging by the teaser roar not sounding anything like a skaven

Also worth mentioning there's no end times in the title anymore
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>>388830936
a larger roster, like 6+
more weapon types, polearms, spears etc
more magic weapons like the drakefire pistols
a vs mode
a way to avoid the obnoxious grind for rare gear and stats
and nothing to do with AOS
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>>388830936
ORCS
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I really really really hate the loot system
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>>388832260
I was thinking of a way to mitigate the grind; when crafting gear/altering stats, you can state what thing you want (i.e. orange sword and shield with x traits) and to increase the chances of getting what you want you can put more tokens into the thing you want, so with enough tokens you are garenteed the thing you want.
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what am i in for?

skaven are the thing i like about games workshop, probably going to give me mixed emotions slaughtering them. i guess there is no versus / play the skaven mode.
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>>388830936
Warrior Priest character added.
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>>388832829

woops, i mean as i download the first one.
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>>388832829
a left for dead with one of the best melee systems I've ever seen, a slightly annoying grind for good gear and some amazing banter
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>>388830936
>Lizardmangs
>Tomb Kangz
>Jezzail snipers
>Hellpit abomination
>Actual Doomwheel enemy
>More varied levels, Lustrian ruins as the moon explodes, lands of the dead, Bretonia, wherever the Order races live
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>>388832829
A fun as fuck L4D2 with meaty combat and very satisfying weaponry

Amazing detail to the world, the characters, their interactions with everything and everyone, and how much of it they have too. I have 120 hours and I still haven't heard the majority of the conversations the characters have

If you have a friend or two downloading this with you, oh you'll have fun alright
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>>388830936
Dont really care. All the Vermintide content they made was decent quality. So whatever is this about, even if its just more of the same, Im buying it.
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>>388831410
Sounded like a hell pit abomination to me.

Anyways, I'd be fine with either new heroes or the old ones, since they have such fantastic VAs and chemistry, but something like a warrior priest of Sigmar/Ulric would be nice, or a skink, slayer, Dwarf/Nuln engineer and high elf would be cool.
If we got new heroes, having a mission similar to the passing/sacrifice would be cool, too.
As for loot, they could fix it by giving you the option to choose anything below the result you got, to make it less annoying to grind for certain items, and have difficult missions with little to no tones/grims have a full set of cursed dice instead of regular. Right now, hardly anyone does Chain of fire or white rat because there's fuck all loot to be had for the challenge. Well, unless they use the CoF exploit, but fuck that Nancy, pole proportioned dendrophile shit.
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>>388833329
>>388833890

nice, dudes. only problem now is brit 1.5mb/ps internet and 40gb games.
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>vermintide
>total war

Why won't GW accept that age of shitmar is a failure?
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>>388830936
>L4D2 ripoff
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>>388832121
I bought the first despite knowing it had no VS mode and got bore of the game within 2 weeks.

Sure as hell wont be buying sequel if they dont add it.
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>>388834189
there are a fair few euro's playing at any given time so you'll probably get a decent number of players
>>388834265
never, they think that because it breifly outsold old fantasy on release that the game is popular and liked
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>>388834315
Vs would be absolutely nightmarish right now, what with gas rats, gunners, the fact that the ogre is faster than the players, and that high level weapons would mince everything at the difficulty level L4D style verses works at.
Though it could work if for vs mode they increased the gas rat's CD, gave the gunner a limited arc when deployed and made players have specific vs weapons designed around the set difficulty level
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>>388830936
a map creator.
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>>388835086
Once the novelty wear off a L4D2 clone with half the features blow real hard. Also who the fuck give a fuck about your point? Stick to carebear pve mode if thats your thing.
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>>388835086
Probably would have to limit traits, or disable them entirely

>Spawn as Ogre
>Get in sight of the team
>They potion share a Speed and Strength
>Kruber alt-fires the Ursula and procs haste
>Dead within 4 seconds of seeing them
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>>388835316
>anyone with half brain could make a game unwinnble with almost no difficulty
>CAREBEAR REEEEEE
ok fag
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>>388835086
you'd probably need to up the number of specials around at one time, since high level players would just chew through conventional spawns.
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>>388835497
Wow I hit the mark pretty hard huh? You sound 10x more casual that what I originally thought... just go kill yourself
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SOMEONE POST THE MIGRANT CRISIS STEAM REVIEW
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>>388835816
>hard or below
Players equip anti gas/bullet trinkets and steamroll the game
>nightmare or above
Gas rat camps a corridor out of sight and spams globes

Please, tell me more about your two weeks. I knew people on /v/ have a tendency to shitpost about games they haven't played, but this is ridiculous.
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>>388830936
1. More city levels.
2. Less cave/countryside/tower/dungeon levels.
3. Even more city levels.
4. Just make it Bloodborne without the Nightmare shit.
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>>388834265
I'm pretty sure that it's only because of Age of Sigmar that we got Mordheim, Vermintide and Total War. GW probably reduced the cost of their licensing fees for Fantasy by a lot compared to when it was still alive.
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>warhammer
>no space marines

this isn't warhammer
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>>388836487

(you)
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>388836487
At least give some semblance of effort in your bait if you want the (You)
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HOLY SIGMAR
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BLESS
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THIS RAVAGED
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>>388830936
1. More cave/countryside/tower/dungeon levels.
2. Less city levels
3. Even more cave/countryside/tower/dungeon levels.
4. Just make it Demon Souls without the Demon shit.
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>>388836487
Not a bad shitpost, anomgi. Not as good as cousin Okri, but it's a start
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>>388830936
Some sort of reward for maining a character
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>>388837141
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>>388830936
I'd be ok with 5 classes if they were all exciting. Rarely anyone played dwarf and empire dude
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>>388830936
Depends. I'd prefer if it wasn't just Vermintide 1.5. Go wild instead, brand new characters and more expansive story mode/levels. Also, playable Warrior Priest is a must.
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>>388830936
A completely different setting; i.e. not Vermintide 2
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>>388836219
>Less cave/countryside/tower/dungeon levels.

>mfw the steam store previews show exactly this
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I want more fucking heros to choose from. It sucks that in a full lobby you have so little choice to choose from. Getting stuck as the elf is the fucking worst.
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>>388837351

Warrior Priest
Bretonnian Knight
Celestial Wizard
Estalian Diestro
Dwarf Slayer
Dark Elf Corsair who absolutely HATES being stuck in the party.
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>>388837339
You're missing out.
Kruber's the most broken character in the game right now, and Bardin's great for clearing hordes
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I want an orc playable character for the top-tier bantz.

A high elf swordmaster or white lion would be fucking sick too.

Also boss fights like in the new map they added but more in-depth. Also add some fucked up monstrosities and doom wheels and shit.
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>>388837532
>Dark Elf Corsair who absolutely HATES being stuck in the party.
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>>388837571
>Orc
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>>388837559
They may be good or better than the rest but you don't get those awesome feels like

>shooting your two guns like a fucking machinegun with speed potion and stacked weapon effect
>shooting arrows at a fast rate like fucking legolas
>I think fire bitch is self explanatory, you get to burn shit and explode

Then you have kruber who hits once with a sniper but doesn't feel THAT satisfactory
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>>388837571
Yes please
Krench was a fantastic boss
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>>388837532
>Slayer
>not removing dark elf at the first opportunity
They can barely stand high elves. Even Bardin and Kerrilian, both massively tolerant by their race's standards, were almost ready to kill each other before the Skaven intervened
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>fags demanding non Skaven enemies in a game called Vermintide

Fuck off, veteran player with 350 hours in Vermintide, you fags are just as bad as the idiots crying for new characters without realizing every possible combat role is filled by the current roster
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lemme fight thanquol and boneraper
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>>388837526
>stuck as the elf
n'wah you serious? elf is pure Legolas mode, I pick her first chance I get, every time
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>>388837761
If machine guns are your thing, you NEED to get the repeating rifle with hate trait.
Trust me on this one.
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>>388837761
Kruber has the Ursula though

If you proc haste on the altfire on it you literally get a minigun. With a potion of speed or strength, you wipe whatever encounter you have, ogre, a cata patrol, anything
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>>388836487
According to cognitive dissonance theory, there is a tendency for individuals to seek consistency among their cognitions (i.e., beliefs, opinions). When there is an inconsistency between attitudes or behaviors (dissonance), something must change to eliminate the dissonance.
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>>388837532
>Dark Elf Corsair who absolutely HATES being stuck in the party.
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>>388837532

Bretonnian Knight doesn't make much sense unmounted.

Slayer and Priest are great ideas though. if were up to me it would be something like

Witch Hunter (returning)
High Elf White Lion
Dwarf Slayer
Grey Wizard
Some sort of Archer that isn't a Waywatcher again.

Things I'd like but will never happen are a Vampire or an Orc.
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>>388838216
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>>388838319

The rats ate his horse.

It gets brought back several times throught the game's banter.
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>>388838319
Maybe a Questing Knight who lost his horses. Could make for good banter between him and Kruber are in the game.
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>>388838418
Not possible, he would have died with the horse, as he wouldn't be off of the horse long enough for them to eat it.
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>>388838319
some bretonnian knights got some meme swords from the lady of the lake, they can fuck things up on foot too.
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How are your cata banners progressing anons?
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I would very much like seeing a knight of the blazing sun. Those guys are some cheeky cunts and their attitude could make for good banter.

They're also some of the most stylish bastards in the old world.
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>>388838319
Don't White Lions without their lion make even less sense than a Bretonnian knight with his horse? God knows I don't want pets added.
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>>388838513

Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.
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>>388838613
Just need the white rat, but nobody ever wants to do that one unless it's a mission, and when the cata weekly comes up all the spastics come out the woodwork
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>>388838692

White Lion's don't ride anything. They're just royal guard kind of motherfuckers who prove they're hardcore by killing lion's with axes and wearing them as cloaks.

You're thinking of the chariot dudes.
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>>388838507

You're such a killjoy aren't you.

What makes you think he WAS on his horse when it happened? Maybe the vermintide happened while the horse was in the stable. Or maybe he WAS on the horse, but the horse didn't die immediatly and he had time to get off, or he had help to keep him alive while he was getting off.
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>>388838647
It's more of a problem with approach - do you want some new characters that will effectively be just a different skin of the old characters? There's no point in getting another tanky-type human character if you can just bring Kruber back, for example.
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>>388838867
Yeah but you kinda want to hit those gameplay archetypes anyway. Have they confirmed anything regarding the characters anyway? I'd prefer playing a new crew with the old gang showing up in a supporting role in a mission or so like in L4D2s The Sacrifice.
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>>388838817
Me and my friend are planning to do that last

Right now our main roadblock is Wizards Tower. Unfortunately we have to play with two bots, so things are messy. We can get to the finale but end up wiping even when defending only one tome. How'd you do that one?
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>>388838867
>tfw kruber main whom is so good at Kruber that I used non meta stuff and faggot try hards would leave the game complaining about how I wasn't using sword and board, but I never died ever and they would rush into packs

Kruber4Lyfe
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>>388838319
>brettonian knight doesnt make much sense unmounted
Paladins could take an oath of humility that let them fight on foot
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>>388837526
>4 players
>5 characters
There is always another choice, anon. Nobody has to play the the elf.
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>>388839065
Quality of life mod to make bots more effective.
Save up for damage resistance and extra damage quest rewards.
Have one person with bomb trinkets, the other with potion trinkets, and both with heal share. That way you can buy time if need be with a strength pot incendiary without killing yourself
Give bots the emblem of shallya trinket and gas/bullet protection trinkets.
If all else fails, you'll have to pug it. Try to avoid doing so on a Sunday
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>>388839465
>If all else fails, you'll have to pug it. Try to avoid doing so on a Sunday

How is the player base anyway? I heard game is apparently doing great in Europe, but not so much anywhere else.
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>>388838321
gee, I wonder-think who could be behind this post
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>>388839084
1h hammer is S tier though
as well as the repeater handgun with haste
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>>388839590
Nightmare players are usually pretty switched on, but Cata is a bit of a gamble, since most Nightmare tactics aren't viable in it and some have trouble adjusting.
On Sunday it's even more so, especially on the quest mission.
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>>388839465
Pretty much our setup, except both of us have potion sharing

Never heard of the QoL mod, that might turn the tide. The reason we wipe usually is because the bots decide to run away from the defense to engage distant rants, and end up being swarmed leaving just the two of us. If it fixes that behavior, I think we'll be good

Thanks!
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>>388837761
Man the funniest thing is to take the handgun and snipe special rats before the elf in your party can kill them. Especially if they have trueflight
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>>388837532
Empire Warrior Priest
High Elf Swordsmaster (was here to be the bodyguard of an archmage but skavens stole his sword so he's angry as fuck and dropped the mage)
Dwarf Engineer or Irondrake
Lore of gold empire Mage (can work as a tank)
Lore of heavens brettonian Damsel
Corsair from Araby (gameplay close to Saltzpyre)

An probably a bow user.
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>>388839726
I used the a hammer before it was balanced correctly and people bitched. Lmao
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>>388839590
I've always been able to find lobbies in NA
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>>388839898
Same, the armor piercing always made it worth it
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>>388839851
>the bots decide to run away from the defense to engage distant rants, and end up being swarmed
QoL should sort that out.
It lets you instruct the bots on how far they can go, among other things.
You can also get them to pick up tomes and grims by flaring them.
One of the better parts is that it gives an ammo counter for each player with the mod, so you can delegate snmo Drops more easily. Or use it to out that one sneaky cunt who keeps stealing them and hopes nobody spots him.
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>>388839726
2H hammer is beastly too
>Infinite Targets
>Can literally solo hordes
>One shots clans on HS
>Anti SV
>With damage boost active Cata becomes a joke with it
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>>388840207
Feels good not bein a shitter, I always thought it was funny when tryhards would join my game, complain about me not using the 'meta' and then get themselves killed because they charge into a pack by themselves and get downed and killed instantly. I play for fun, and just so happen to be better than a majority of these faggots in the process
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>>388830936
a cinematic solo campaign
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>>388840395

The game is cool in the sense that you can make pretty much anything work at any difficulty if you're good enough.

I use a lot of shitty legendary weapons just because I like the skins even when I play on cata.
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KREIG
RAT
KREIG
RAT
KREIG
RAT
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They better fix the way melee handles in this version
It was a total shit-show in the first game since they faked everything and no self casting shadows, making it impossible to naturally gauge how long your reach were without spending a fuck ton of hours "learning" it
A proper in-head camera and no fake flying limbs skyrim-style please, just like the way The Darkness did it
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>>388840608
You must be retarded since the melee is perfect in Vermintide and everything has perfect weight to it
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>>388840395
>people complaining about meta
Is that a regional thing?
As a bonglander, I've never seen anyone complained at so long as they didn't suck, outside of one autistic Dwarf player that REEEEEed over bright wizards using their melee weapon. On fucking Nightmare, of all things.
Think he was called crowdcontroll, if anyone else has seen him.
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Strength potion > Speed potion
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H O L Y S I G M A R
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How do I get gud at bright wizard
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>>388840573
I love Saltz loadout just because of that

Everything in there I can use and have it be effective, and yet nothing is broken. Not even the falchion I'd argue, because two shields will fuck you over so hard in a horde if you just make one mistake, forcing you to roll for perfect balance on it to stand some chance
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>>388840958
Realize you're not exclusively a ranged character and manage your venting.
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>>388840958

Beam staff. Lots of friendly fire.
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>>388830936
Why more Empire/Vampire Counts shite, or sourth-eastern portion of the Empire, when there is so much potential to be had with End Times Skaven infestation when it was basically fucking PLANETWIDE, happening all over the globe.

Why not set it in Ulthuan, Naggaroth/Dark Elf city, take Kerillian back to Athel Loren to liberate the Wood Elves, Kislev and the frozen Wastelands/Norsca, or sections of Araby and getting to see the very beginnings of Nagash shitting up the End Times. Forget about Bretonnia. Games Workshop fucked over the Bretonnia fagboi players where in the lore, basically every Bretonnian was eaten completely by the Skaven blight.

Also, I just want to see at least one Ogre maneater mercenary champion character at least for hilarity sake. Fuck would it be hilarious to see a maneater with a unique personality clobbering it's way through everything, eating rats, and having to duck his way into every door or small corridor.

You could also fuck around with what Valve did with L4D2, where you can play as the Undead instead do the same with Skaven. Instead of senseless runthroughs of a mission with heroes, you play-out/plan Skaven sieges and swarm of a city.
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>>388840958
Friendly fire is real and hurts, so be wary of positions

Do not forget you have a melee weapon
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>>388840958
Conflag staff with Channeling rune, regrowth and Other.
Sword with charged attack earthing.

Full power blast chokepoints, don't be afraid to vent since your regrowth will balance the damage, pick off anything else that gets through with normal ranged/melee attacks, and wade in with charged attacks if you're too low on health to vent.
Try to aim for consistent head shots with the sword
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>>388841284
Because you can't go out there too much and still want to tick those recognizable Warhammer boxes for non-fans. Look at the first game.

>elf
>dwarf
>fire wizard
>snarky rogue
>tank
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>DO YOU SEEK MY JUDGEMENT, SERGEANT?!
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Lot of talk about new classes, but what about... NEW RATS!

>Sniper Rat of clan Skryre (he hides in the rooftops and wait for the good shot)
>Warpfire Thrower (killing both rats and players)
>Giant Rats (act like hounds, encircling the players and attacking when they find the chance).
>Warpdrill Rat Ogre (Even with some armor and a drill that break armor and kill other rats)
>Night Runners Squad (Act similar to Gutter Runner, but in pack and do not hold the players; they would rather use throwing weapons and smoke bombs).

With this we get an extra rat from each of the big clans with the exception of Pestilence (fuck those rats).

And for bosses you can have a Chimerarat or a Hellpit Abomination, a Doomwheel (imagine fighting one, having to dodge its charges or get trampled) or a Warlock Engineer (kinda like a sniper with rocket launcher, attacking from rooftops); and a Eshin Assassin (an almost pitch black arena with one torch [torch mechanic is back) and he tries to break the party so he can take each player one by one).
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>>388840943
B L E S S T H I S R A V A G E D B O D Y
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>>388841741
>Short sighted as well dwarf?
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>>388841856
Hoping for the hellpit abomination honestly

>torch mechanic is back

Wouldn't mind, I loved the dungeons. Nothing made my team panic harder than carrying the torch, trying to find out way through, and suddenly hearing a patrol closing in
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>>388842297
>Not now Witch!
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>>388841741
>THEY'RE STRANGLING THE ELF, THAT'S MY JOB!
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>>388837893
How dare people ask for new content
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>>388841856
I'd settle for having a plague rat censor bearer because they fucking rule.
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>>388841284
an adult ogre would be way too strong,but you could have a young ogre, just give him the most over the top chav voice imaginable and you'd be golden
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>>388841856
Fucking clan pestilence
>decide to make an appearance from out of nowhere and demand a council seat
>causes a civil war
>get it in the end by threatening to release a superplague in front of the rest of the council
>proceed to initiate and fuck up two extremely major attacks above ground
>rest of the council wants them kicked
>cause another fucking civil war over it
>only resolved in the end through the great horned rat telling them to cut that shit out
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>>388841856
The fact that this is the end times and there is a lack of female Skaven/Broodmothers around the size of houses is alarming. Either on it's own trying to eat the players due to primalistic rage or urges to gather protein for milk, protected by other Skaven, or ridden by a Skaven Warchief into battle to munch on anything.
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Didn't the devs promise new characters? And now they're just going to resell the same thing?
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>>388843408

>Didn't the devs promise new characters?

Not that I'm aware of
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my ideal roster;

>High Elf White Lion
>Dark Elf Corsair
>Arabyan or Sartosan Jezzial
>Bretonnian humiliated Paladin
>Empire Ironsider
>Kislev Frost witch
>Dwarf Slayer
>Von Carstein Vampiress
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The first game is like 2 years old, why the hell are they releasing a sequel already
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>>388842625
Could go as a tier between clan rate and stormvermin. Tough because they don't feel any pain, but do less damage and non armoured
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>>388844089

is this a joke?
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>>388844171
Probably a consol peasant.
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>>388844171
The first game has about 30 hours of content before you're just grinding to grind, why don't they improve their first game instead of releasing another game to split the tiny playerbase
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>>388844040
>Dark Elf Corsair
>Humiliated and lost at sea after her party/ship got destroyed.
>Hates the fact that she has to work with everyone else in order to survive.
>Bad mouths the entire group

Ship it!
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>>388844171
people saying the same thing for the new Total War: Warhammer as well and it just boils my mind. Do these people think a sequel must happen at least 4 years later and any content inbetween must happen as 40 different DLCs?
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>>388844460

Yeah definitely a fuckin' idiot
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>>388844040
I love the idea of the voice lines between a group and a Slayer wanting to die.

Refusing to accept being killed by a lesser rat because its not a glorious death. Running straight at a Rat Ogre and getting extra attacks against it.

Fuck that would be amazing, I fucking love Slayers.
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>>388844601
enjoy your $60 glorified dlc
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>>388844089
For a game like this, it's imperative to keep interest high enough that the players can find regular games, so they need to retain old players and court new ones, and for that they need new content.
Any more DLC will risk splitting the community and gating off potential new players, so a sequel isn't surprising. Hell, there's probably too much DLC already.
They could release more as free content, but that's always a risk.
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>>388844859

nigga the first one wasn't even 60$
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Same heroes, more weapons and more races to kill
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>>388844859
At this point the game is pushing 30 gbs. I'm going to assume that the sequel is using a different engine as well. That alone warrants a sequel. I don't see why your complaining though as you obviously don't enjoy the game, it's a very niche market but it does exist and people are excited for the sequel
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>>388845158
I really hope they switch to a normal fucking engine this time, not autodesk stingray, whatever the fuck that is.
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>>388845385
It used to be called Bitsquid before Autodesk bought it out and filled it with middleware
Ruining what once was a incredibly light weight engine with a really cool toolset

https://youtu.be/yU6lkhjcOp4
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More Elves because if it's not a knife-ear I don't play it.
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>>388846018
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>>388834265
Age of sigmar is doing really well for them and after some of the rule updates has become fun to play.
Why not be happy you have 2 settings to play with?
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>>388846567
Because one of the settings is total shit that literally destroyed everything that was appealing or interesting about Classic Warhammer.
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>>388844040
Whats the best way to implement a Von Carstein Vampiress and make her anything but OP?

>So many fucking dead during the End Times. Can spawn a literal armada.
>Soul Leech.
>Vampires, especially the Von Carsteins, gain an unbelievable amount of prowess after Nagash's return being captains and leaders of his army.

Would be best just to make her an ordinary Vampire noblewoman who can spawn 1 to 2 skeleton servants.
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>>388846567
Outside of vidya we don't have two settings, and that's the problem.
What's even more frustrating is that it's becoming increasingly clear that fantasy is very marketable IP that only declined due to GW sidelining it.
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>>388846837
Newly born and/or poisoned by Warpstone/Chained with Light magic to stop them hurting anyone, and consequently blood starved and weak.
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>game named Vermintide
>I WANT MORE RACES
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>>388846567
Does AoS has a real setting now? Cities, economies, folklore, traditions, etc?

Because as far as I know there is one SETTING and GW killed it.
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>>388846736
>implying Warhammer Old world wasn't just !Europe at the end of the day

If you have a shit about the setting perhaps you should have bought and supported it instead of buying 3rd party minis and advocating all newcomers do the same
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>>388847126
Same shit happened with Space Hulk: Deathwing

>Space Hulk is a board game about killing genestealers
>Deathwing is the name of the Dark Angels' first company
>HURR WHY AREN'T WE FIGHTING NECRONS?
>DURR I WANNA PLAY AS SALAMANDERS
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>>388830936
More of the same really.
New weapons and locations.
better weapon balancing.
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>>388847358
This is why we need a Deathwatch game.
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>>388840958
Just don't use the conflag.
Conflag wizards worse than hagbane elves.
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>>388847329
fuck off with this meme.
The setting died because GW almost completely ignored it while simultaneously creating colossal army and unit bloat.
Why the fuck would a newcomer want to sink 100s, if not more, into a game that the creators clearly didn't give a shit about, when there's a very obviously supported game from the same company that has a smaller entry cost and more gateways?

Shifting blame onto the consumers just makes you look like a battered housewife or EA supporter.
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I want a skink because lizards are cool.
Probably not gonna happen though. In most cases it wouldn't make sense geographically for a skink to be around.
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>>388847939
Conflag is fine; it's great at utterly obliterating hordes in confined areas before they even reach the group. With distraction they can also turn around a near wipe easily.
Provided the wizard doesn't spam it close to the group, and provided the group isn't dumb enough to walk through the obvious fire, everyone should be fine.
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The only reason they would make a sequel is to add something they cant in the current game.

Versus mode.
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you play as 4 lost as fuck rats killing waves of man-things
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>>388830936
More defense-oriented weaponry, sword and board, etc
More races, to play and to face against
Longer range weapons, spear, halberd, etc
More cities, or at least more urban combat
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>>388848117
>literally proving his post right
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>>388848463
The conflagration staff can knock rats behind you with the blast, block off the most inconvenient areas and is easy to accidentally deal friendly fire with.
It's not a tool to be placed in the hands of retards.
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>>388848617
>Storm Vermin
>Plague Censer
>Warplock Engineer
>Grey Seer
>Gutter Runner
>Set in Brettonnia, fighting waves of peasants and the occasional Knight.
Fund it
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>>388833523
>wanting to kill muh lizardbros
>not wanting to play one of them
A playable chameleon skink or temple guard would be so fucking rad.
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>>388846567
I would if they just said "Yeah, there's 2" instead of going through every effort to demonstrate that fantasy is kill outside of vidya. It's a cool setting, I like seeing things happen with it, and it's kinda lame that the whole thing has to go kaput because plastic isn't moving.

>>388830936
I've got 395 hours on Vermintide, but most of that's from launch and a little bit after TLS patch. What made me go from being addicted to the game to disinterested was the lack of new specials, a versus mode, and at the time I don't recall any new weapons. New maps have helped with the last problem, but I dislike that getting them largely falls to RNG on that specific map.

Anywho, what I would like to see:
>New characters would be cool, for both flavor and gameplay (in particular, a second wizard or proper, maybe bretonnian knight)
>Versus Mode of some kind
>Mod support, preferably through the workshop
>More special events (ex. Rat ogre, Stormvermin patrol, clanrat surge)
>New specials (warpfire throwers, jezail teams)
>Unique bosses would be amazing (Hellpit Aboms)

I guess the dream would involve the game having 4 modes: Classic (what a run is now, goal is to get 3t2g), TLS, VS, and a "Boss Fight" focused mode where the map objective is more about fighting some final boss rather than just getting away with 3t2g. Similar to how Ulduar had its hard modes, I'd love to see a system like that in these bossfights. For example, in a fight with a Warlock Engineer, if you blow up a pipeline the area will explode in 2m so you have to kill him in that time. And completing the fight with that modifier would of course give better loot.
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>>388830936
DOOMROLLERS
ORCS
BEASTMEN
DEMONS
ANYTHING BUT MORE RATS
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Give me a playable lizardman with macuahatls and spear-throwers and lasers.
A playable Tomb King would be nice too because they're the best faction, but that might not fit in too well.
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>>388848390
It would be, simply due to the fact that the End Times was the only time when the Lizardfags actually went out of Lustria and did something about it like interfering with the Chaos and Skaven spread, and after Lustria got bombarded with warpstone meteors.

But it wouldn't make sense though to have some bumfuck Lizardmen running around by himself and joining adventurers, instead of doing the will of the Lord Keks, and massing in a Lizardman horde.
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>>388848739
He's blaming the consumers in order to fuel his smug quota. The blame is blatantly with the company to anyone without a battered housewife mentality.

That's like blaming people avoiding a shop and causing it to fail, while failing to mention that the shop owner jacked up his prices, moved to a secluded area, failed to advertise and smeared shit all over the window.
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>>388848617
4 lost rats would shit their pants against waves of man-things. And if they were elites from different clans they would kill each other before facing the waves.
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>>388849169
Skink priests are the ones to interpret the will of the Slaan, and they're not particularly good at it.
If one farts in his sleep they go apeshit and try to decipher it, so it's possible that one interpreted Pepe's bowel movement as him wanting to send one of them to bumbfuck nowhere to remove rats.
Given that they absolutely despise Skaven, they wouldn't need much persuading.
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>>388830936
More rats.
>>
>Don't know any Warhammer shit, picked this game up for fun
>Enjoy it
>Read a few lorebooks
>Leader of Clan Eshin is Lord Sneek
>A rat that served as the comm relay between the front line and the council was named Farsqueaker

Is this legit? These names are too hilarious
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>>388830936
>still only ratoids

No thanks
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>>388849364
They wouldn't if the Horned Rat directly intervened.
Fucked if I know why he'd do that, but it's pretty much the only thing that stops them trying to one up Mannlet as the head Starscream of WH
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>>388849418
Skaven are comedy gold, my dude.
Did you miss the giant hamster wheels covered in spikes and warpstone guns?
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>>388849418
They're both hilariously incompetent and murderously psychotic.
Probably best embodied in Thanquol, who successfully summons the Khorne's most powerful Bloodthirst by himself in order to lay waste two armies.
Problem is that he did it completely by accident while trying to summon a Daemon of the Horned Rat, and one of the armies wiped out was his own.
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>>388849418
Skaven are possibly some of the most hilarious shit to come out of anything in the fantasy genre.
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>>388849536
Probably, still they would be dead against a wave of man-things.
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>1st game is still a buggy unfinished mess
>make a sequel
and the retards will fall for it again.
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When are they going to fix the 1h maces?
>Light attacks have infinite targets and can scythe through hordes without leaving any openings for the 'raki to counter
>Heavy attacks are fast and kill clan rats in one hit and Stormvermin in four
>Killing Blow, Swift Slaying N and Bloodlust
>All with the usual advantages of one handed weapons
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too low effort for even a post reference
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bretonnia characters
map editor <<< a necessity
and a fucking shot gun like pic related
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>>388849418
Warhammer Fantasy was a goldmine of dry humor and bad dad jokes. It's what's missing from modern 40k and AoS.
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>>388847329
!Europe or !Earth is much better than epic Landmarinesâ„¢
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>>388849820
Fantasy WH gets some love for once so yeah
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remove elf

for real though more savage elf on dwarf banter is all i want
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>>388850173
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Come on, Goreksson, one last blow
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>>388831070
orks and gobbos would be fun too.
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>>388850573
Come on, Dwarf! Don't let that Elven Wench outlive you!
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>>388850173
The reason orks are the best race in 40k is because Warhammer is at it's best when it's goofy, and they're pretty much always goofy.
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>>388850173
>>388850358
This shit is comedy gold. Why the fuck cant 40k be like this anymore? Fuck, why cant AoS be like this anymore? Too much grimdark, not enough dark humor.
>>
I want a bolt staff that isn't shit on Cataclysm
You need your entire meter to do what any other staff could do in two blasts.
And it doesn't get Haste or Berserking when it's the staff that would benefit the most.
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>>388837532
>>388839868
>Warrior Priest

FUCK YES, I miss my WP from WAR, I don't mind if he has zero healing skills and he is just smashing heads, I want WP.
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>>388851492

They do have heals.
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I wouldn't mind seeing something blood bowl related, I know their technically not in the same universe but it could be fun, good reason to get someone of a different race in, also Chaos Dwarves
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>>388851305
have a look at the regimental standard, is one of the best things I've seen out of gw in years
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>>388851305
because
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>>388851305
Because somewhere along the line 40k dropped any semblance of satire and became generic space opera.
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>>388852280
why do people pretend to like 40k?
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>>388849551
The doomwheels? Haven't read about them

I've read about Clan Skyre though. Seems nice, a clan using warpstone for tech means, making extremely powerful and murderous creations wanted all over the under empire. The gatling gunners weapon should be from that clan, so I read it next. I was right, but what I didn't anticipate was that it was a hand cranked gatling gun. A weapon of mass destruction straight from Clan Skyre, a fucking hand cranked gatling gun
>>
is this the shill thread?
>>
Is it easy to play with randoms like killing floor or does it require a lot of interaction and is the community elitest?
>>
>>388852602
It's generally alright, but watch out for elves. They're the kind who will act arrogant, run off, get themselves killed, then blame the rest of the team.
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>>388851203
deff skwadron is the living proof of that.
>>
>>388852370

Aesthetics are genuinely cool.

Before they went overboard with shit like the wolf sled and so on at least.
>>
>>388852370
They don't, the consumer changed. It stoppped being a niche game and now its a mainstream consumer who love space marine and space marines inside other space marines. Basically the guy who find cool anything that have spikes, hornes or big dicks.
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>>388852470
Doomwheels are the things you destroy in the Engines of War mission.
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>>388852602
Depend on the dificulty. But randoms are more helpful than bots (you need to equip your bots for them to become helpful).
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>>388852370
4ok's a big enough setting with a long enough history that I just pick and choose the shit I want to bother with. I honestly think second-party stuff that isn't made directly by GW (Dark Heresy, WFRP, DoW, TW;W) tends to understand what made the setting entertaining more so than GW themselves.
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>>388850173

Love it.
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>>388851492
>missing WAR
lmao. just go play return of reckoning
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>>388853526
Post more if you have any, this stuff is good
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>>388853526
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The 2h sword is the only weapon I can't avoid taking a few hits with now and then
>Slow startup
>Can barely move while swinging
>Only hits six rats and the stagger only barely lasts long enough for you to get your next swing in
Feels like devastating blow is a must to have a chance with this thing in anything that isn't a corridor
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>>388853996
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>>388854213
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>>388854213
Do you have the excerpt about the goblins cooking and eating the other goblin?
>>
>>388852602
On the easiest difficulties yes.

But Vermintide is horrifically punishing, and requires perfect understanding and execution of the mechanics on the highest difficulty.
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>>388854213
>Celebratory beatings
I suppose that's one way of seeing if the guy being promoted is up to par
>>
http://khorne.ru/2nd/

A bunch of WHFRPG sourcebooks here if you guys want them.
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>>388834169
>pole proportioned dendrophile
I got that. It's true that loot is rage inducing. It took me months to loot a red whilst a friend of mine got one in 2 weeks.
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playable Skaven crew fucking when?
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>>388852470
>he thinks gatling guns are impressive
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>>388852909
>tfw Deff Skwadron flight 'sim' never
Imagine Ace Combat but with orks.
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>>388856404
Why are Skaven so fucking cute
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>>388830936
>its called Vermintide 2
>people expect other races

I want 3-5 more specials, better weapon balance so most of the weapons in the game are not worthless. Better traits that make orange/reds actually interesting or crazy. As far as playable characters, I could honestly see them adding skill trees or abilities
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>>388830936
More boss fights. The last DLC boss was great, I hope they get more creative with it.

I'd like rather than new characters, to play up the traits from weapons and stuff to really differentiate the characters already in. As in both a wider variety of passive traits like the buffs the weapons have already with some active skill type things like how the rapier had extra guns for the WH.
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>>388830936
Campaign levels like L4D, shorter levels with check point endings.
Overall longer and more difficult that a regular one shot level with better rewards, but not as mentally taxing if you die at some point.
>>
>>388832846

Saltspyre
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>>388857540
Oh and for the love of god please fix the fucking loot system.
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>>388856676
I still want something resembling a Battlefield WAAAGH, it has all the elements for an orky shooter.
>all the automatics in BF1 feel like shootas
>choppas and stikk grenades in abundance
>vehicles in BF1 are loud and clumsy
And a good 90% of my pilot kills were earned by going KILLBOY and ramming them with my fighter
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>>388834169

When my buddy and I talked about what we'd like to see in the game, we decided that a shit-talking hyper smug Chaos Warrior would be dope.

I'm not sure how well he could fit into a party of Order factions, but if there was a way it'd be dope. The bants would be incredible.
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>>388856404
>NIGHT-DARK OF FIRE YOU BETTER-BETTER STAY
>YOU BETTER-BETTER BEGIN THE COWER-PRAYER TO PLAY
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>>388857916
Is a witch hunter?
>>
What are THE best orange weapons for Bardin?
>>
>>388840760
I'd argue that speed is more important in cata, but everything below strength is better.
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>>388859407
Pick/axe and shield and pistols for laughing at hordes
Otherwise they're pretty much all as good as the other for various roles.
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an engine that isnt garbage, less bugs and janky shit (rats hitting thru walls, and packmaster doing odd shit), more characters, give us some wierd shit like lizardmen or more magic characters
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Why the fuck do people keep on suggesting Lizardmen as the next swarm monster when they are technically the good guys in the entirety of WHFB and the Slann are equivalent of the guardians of the planet??
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>>388831167
There is literally no information on the game right now. No point in saying that.
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>>388859407
2H Axe + Grudgerakers curbstomps hordes
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>>388848490
this. if I don't get versus mode I'll be 200% mad
>>
read the whole thread not knowing there was a sequel coming thinking you had way too high hopes for the next DLC
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>more customization that isn't just cosmetic (modifying weapons etc.)
>versus mode a la l4d2

bonus question, why is everybody who has a level of 200 or higher so incredibly bad? is it just people playing from internet cafes?
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