WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK WHO WAS THE GODDAMNED MOTHERFUCKER WHO THOUGHT

>>388781885
This thread makes me miss old /v/.
Good luck, OP. Have a bump.

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Is the Heisei Gamera trilogy any good?

you're just underleveled op

grind a bit more in Mirage Saloon

kill some slimes then bring a potion to the fight retard

>being so bad at video games that you can't even beat a game targeted towards retarded kids with autism and down.

kill the guns first, dumdum

>>388782282
>heisei
>not superior showa

>>388781885
Once you learn the pattern it is ok, but I do agree that if you fall into the oil you're basically fucked as there's something popping up constantly.
It was a shit boss. Great design, terrible execution.
Does having a fire shield set the oil on fire and deal damage?

acquire proficiency

>>388783063
I wish there was a boss training option on the menu, because in order to get used to it i have to basically perfect the entire level without dying just to conserve lives.
I'm having Sonic Unleashed flashbacks and i can't stop thinking about nightmares.
But that'd be neat, i'd love to see if it actually helps
It's a neat interaction

>>388782282

Heisei Gamera is pretty neat.

>>388783192
I got there with like 11 lives, and I left with 7.
You you died THAT much without learning any patterns you're not good at video games.

It's funny because I've noticed it's the newer generation (20 years old and under) that struggle with old style vidya. Is it really modern day vidya has provided too much instant gratification, and bred an impatient, entitled group of individuals?

Jump on Robuttnik until he dies.

no shit that boss was pretty bullshit

>Getting even one game over in Mania
Lol

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>>388783825
>not doing anything at life other than playing in front of a computer to brag on an image board

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>>388783968
>So bad at videogames you have to resort to "muh life"

>>388783968
>I have a LIFE thats why I'm bad
People with lives dont post on Norwegian Pottery Forums anon

>not having all the emeralds by that point so you can become super to score an easy victory

hold down shift it'll slow you down so you can dodge his bullets easier

Just beat this boss, OP seethin

>>388784184
>Needing super
>Not just scoring yourself a fire shield

>>388781885

>Get to this boss for the first time with one life left
>Die immediately, have to redo the zone
>Between then and getting back to the boss hear shit about how it's a super-hard boss
>Get back to the boss
>Beat it on the first try

G
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>>388781885
Have you never played the old Sonic? The boss is similar from that game except for the tentacles and he can drag you down if you aren't paying attention. Just take your time.

>>388783192
>training option for bosses

Bitch, the boss is supposed to be a test of your skills. You practice by playing the game until you're good enough to pass that test. Start a new save file and go again, or better yet, play on No Save mode. It may have taken me several game overs to beat the final boss of Sonic 2, but I wouldn't be as good at the game as I am now if I was able to just redo the boss, and the same goes for everyone who played games before save systems. Grow a fucking pair and Git Gud.

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>>388783968
>I have a life that's why I'm bad

>>388781885
I don't like how this game fails to differentiate between what Sanic can safely jump on, and what damages him if he does.
Case in point: the tentacle arm that fire lasers.

>tfw unable to beat the puyo puyo boss because I suck at fucking puyo

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>>388783192
>training option on the menu

How shitty do you have to be in a 2D platformer like Sonic to wish for such a thing.

>>388781885
Jump to the middle platform as soon as it rises up. Go to the center of it and duck. It will either send the spike worm thing (keep ducking to avoid) or the gun. If it's the gun, keep ducking and only jump if/when it shoots the floor. After three shots of the gun or one pass of the spike you will see tentacles wrap around two of the platforms. Get one hit in on the closest turret tentacle and then jump to the safe platform. You can try getting two hits in but you risk falling into the oil, and there's a bug where sometimes falling into the oil when the platforms get pulled under results in an instant death.
Jump back to the center platform when it reappears and repeat the process. Once both tentacles are destroyed do the same thing but with damaging the octopus.

>>388784858
I beat the boss with a cheap two chain combo that put a pile of junk poyo in the spawn column. The boss killed himself while I was busy building a proper combo.

>>388781885
1. Learn the gun patterns
2. Watch out do the spear - there's an audio cue
3. Kill the guns. You can get two hits in before they're out of range.
4. Once you've hit the guns once, jump across the oil to the opposite side of the level and jump on the platforms
5. Make sure both guns are dead and then wail on Robotnik

Pretty simple unless you're playing as Knuckles in which case good fucking luck because Knuckles sucks dick in this game

This game was surprisingly challenging for me.

Real talk though, how the fuck do you hurt that fuck on the motorbug without taking damage

>>388785545
You just have to hit him and not the bug. He's easy.

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>>388781885
>beat it first try with Sonic
>died 5 times with Knuckles

git gud

>>388785941
Knuckles sucks in this game

I still don't understand how people are having problems with this game. I beat it last night for the first time in one sitting, sure I died a couple of times and couldn't get all the emeralds, but I never got a single game over. Is all you've played walking simulators or something?

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>>388784083
I'd fuck that.

>>388785940

oi m8 u 'avin a giggle

I mean when do I jump? I only managed once when I baited him to jump on the rail on the right side of the level

>>388786119

>being able to explore every level exceptionally well
>sucking

m8

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>>388785491
>>388785403
I FUCKING LOVE YOU BOTH YOU'RE MY HEROES AND I WISH TO BEAR YOUR CHILD IN A PASSIONATE WAY THOSE SENTENCES SAVED MY ENTIRE LIFE FORCE AND I GRANT EACH ONE OF YOU MY ENTIRE EXISTENCE AND INDIVIDUALITY AS A REWARD FOR HELPING ME AT MY DARKEST DAYS

>>388787083
>when do I jump?
When he drives past? You have to arc it right so that you come into contact with only him and not his mount. It's similar to Big Arms in Sonic 3 (unless you cheese him with insta-shield).

for real this boss was hard as fuck dude. its crazy because Act 1's boss is stupid easy but act 2 is fucking something else.

in sonic 2, you could cheese your way thru this boss but man they changed it big time for Mania. took like 20 of my lives.

>>388787386

shit I was totally unable to do that

Big Arms in sonic 3 was a little easier I think because you only had to jump horizontally into it, this thing you have to do the whole arc basically

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>>388781885

why does Knuckles suck in this game?

>>388781885
A female twitch streamer who never played a sonic game in her entire life, beat this boss.

>>388787841
He sucked in every game desu.

>>388787841
He's too slow and you cannot drop dash with him.

>>388781885
Literally git gud. Mania is nowhere near as hard as Sonic 2 was; Oil Ocean in that was actually annoying.

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>>388787841
He doesn't have to deal with Sky Chase Saloon, so he is actually the best way to play the game.

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>>388787838
thats how its normally done in sonic 2. i tried it on my first of course until

that part where they DROWN the platform too

when i died because of that i knew i was screwed

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>>388785491
>Knuckles sucks dick in this game
Nigga what? Are you faggots that casual? I did my first playthrough as Knuckles and I only died twice to this boss. Even if you're shit, just hang on the walls until the tentacles rise up.

>>388786398
Same, but I did get all the emeralds. Only barely though, because I got the last one from Mirage Saloon act 1 and I never found a single giant ring after that. In any case I still finished it with 16 lives remaining, playing as Sonic solo. It really isn't a hard game, even with some fucked collisions causing instant deaths when they clearly shouldn't.

>>388788068
I didn't even know that drop dash was a thing until after I beat the final final boss.

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>>388789286
The crushing insta-deaths fucking suck.

>>388786119
The lag after flying is what fucks him over, in level he's good, in battles he's too slow

>>388781885
>T W E L V E

>>388785545
I never even got hit. I was really confused.

>>388781885
Poor bastard I just got past him a few days ago, just wait until you hit the Titanic Monarch. I can't even get past the first fucking act

>>388781885
This boss isn't hard, it's just shit. You just fart around in the oil until he pops up, then you wail on him. I love this game but I don't understand all the hype around the bosses in it. They're definitely more clever than most 2D platformer bosses but most are over and done with before you even need to learn a pattern. I didn't even find out about the Press Garden Act 1 buzzsaw guy's weakness until after I beat the game.

>>388790808
Titanic Monarch is a pretty chill zone though?????????

>>388791087
Half the bosses in Mania are good and the other half are straight up garbage.

>>388790408
Knuckles feels like he has more ending lag than in S3&K.

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piratefag here, can i play this game yet

>>388783709
not really. i took out half it's health at the start of the fight by accident.

>Not having all of the emeralds by then

Anyone that got a game over in sonic mania needs to turn in their gamer card. the only parts in the game that are remotely difficult are the 5th and 6th special stages and getting all the gold medals.

>>388781885
this boss was retarded.
get hit once and you're likely to lose all your rings in the oil.
the platforms can glitch and cause instant death while moving.
when the boss appears the platforms get removed, so you need to try to stay alive in the oil while trying to dodge the projectiles while also trying to hit the boss.

really the only boss in the game that you need to slow down for and think instead of going full yolo.

>>388783063

>There's something popping up constantly

There's a lot of time in-between octopus going under, spike-snake flying up, and laser coming up. The only time you feel there's "popping up constantly" is that the guns come up before the laser goes down, and the guns don't hurt you when they're coming up.

Oil Ocean boss is hard if you are so used to the "bull rush, catch ring, abuse iframes" method, and can't figure out you have to play the strategy of attacking the guns first.

>>388792452
>6th special stages
Not even, that stage is a cake walk with simple turns, tons of rings and the UFO doesn't even turn on the inside that much

The Super button was the best thing to ever happen in this game
>Gets all emeralds in Chemical Plant
>Doesn't go Super so the experience isn't ruined
>Go Super on some bosses to speed them up
Shit is too fucking comfy yo, doing my 5th playthrough not even counting the ones on console and time attack

>>388781885

The level's fine, better than the original Oil Ocean actually. The boss sucks ass until you figure out that you can kill the button hands, then you kill said button hands and suddenly it's just a patience game.

>>388781885
You having a giraffe m8? It's just fighting two super easy bosses from previous games at once. Not much harder than fighting them seperately. Kill the Lava Reef balls, kill the octopussy. What part are you having trouble with?

Git gud

Is there any worse design than the second part of the Metal Sonic fight?

>Hit Metal Sonic
>Hit spike wall
>Collect every ring you lost because the spike wall corrals them to you, making losing literally impossible

What's the most terrible part is that, if you have taken the time and energy to get all 7 emeralds by the time you get here, you are rewarded with a fight where being Super Sonic is worse.

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>>388792191
buy the game you fuck

but if you still want it, sonic team fucked up DRM shit in the game, so you should wait some days until dust settles to play it.

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>>388785545

I'd say the same for me but I've long known that I'm bad at classic Sonic games. They're fun but I'm really bad, especially at the special stages. I found like 10 of the special stage rings before "beating" the game but I can't beat the third emerald stage to save my life, and I cleared like 7 Blue Spheres stages despite at least 4 times as many attempts. I am so fucking far out of my element with this shit.

>>388793531
>Hit Metal Sonic
>Hit Spike Wall
No, I just think you are bad

>>388793835

I don't think you understand, I'm doing it on purpose because there's no downside.

>>388793835

He's right though, that fight is almost impossible to lose unless you do so on purpose. Even then you really have to try.

>>388793970
Welp, can't beat that logic

>>388793970
Shit well I take back what I said then, I never got hit and assumed the rings would just not collide against the wall

>>388792942
Super button?
Is there a jump button that doesn't activate super?

>>388794183
PC version launched with a dedicated Super button so you don't transform by pressing the same button twice
Consoles will get patched with it later

Should I get this game, or play the original three again first? I haven't played them since I was a kid when they first came out.

>>388794426
Play the original three and CD

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Get Good OP
Streaming on Mixer with Tips and tricks

>>388792452
Getting all the golds is only remotely difficult because some of the stages pull blatant trial and error bullshit with the yellow spheres.

>>388794097

Yeah, well, obviously I got hit for real the first time, but after watching every ring on screen fall into me I just wailed on him without caring about where I landed.

Honestly, I say its the worst design (because it is), but it is, at least, cathartic.

>>388794316
>Got all of the Emeralds by Press Garden as Knuckles
>Had to start deliberately getting hit so I didn't have to go super

>>388781885
become better at the game my friend.
if you did not do this boss in less than 3 tries then youre just plain dumb.

>>388789286
it really isnt hard. the only thing that should potentially kill you are the insta-death stuff and they arent hard to avoid unless you are a grade A retard.

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>TFW Spiderboss is pushing my shit hard
>I know exactly what I need to do but keep fucking it up
>Keep flying at him too early, going through him and eating spikes.
>Keep throwing him out of wack with my attacks so I can't get more than one hit on him.
>Keep getting crushed under spikes because I'm a retard

>>388795581
Pretty much. I only died 11 times. Twice to the Studiopolis boss who shoots the missiles you have to hit back at him, 3 times to broken crush instant-kills, once to a pit in a stage and once from falling off Tails' plane while super sonic, twice to final boss v1 and twice to final boss v2. So just under half my deaths were instant kills and four of those were probably not intended by the devs.

>>388795707
>Keep flying at him too early
If you really know what you need to do flying too early ain't an issue
You're supposed to keep hitting him to keep him low on the ground, so when you get to the pole you don't have to climb very hard and can easily hit him to the spikes 2 times, 3 if you're hardcore

>>388794567
What exactly is the "perfect run" achievement? Is it "all the rings in one zone" thing or is it a start to finish achievement?

>see people complaining about this boss before game is released on PC
>expect a hard fight
>crush him on my first try
>beaten the game 4 times now and have only died once to him, and that was because I hit him while low in the oil and the bounce back knocked me off the bottom
Have I been memed on?

>>388796325
Fuck off you're too good for this franchise
Go play God Hand or some shit

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Got one hit killed by the guns coming down while i was standing under them.

>>388781885
>kill button gun things
>dodge lazer and spike you can see coming from a mile away
>hit the boss when he comes up because he does literally nothing

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>managed to get #2 time in the world for green hill time trials
>couldnt be bothered to maintain it
>probably like 10th now

How do speedrunners stay sane? I was sitting there for hours each day keeping my rank high until I just couldn't be bothered to continue.

>>388788287
Yeah its really Hydrocity zones boss that sucks dick playing knuckles. Fuck that was annoying

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>>388796759
>Get a bunch of #1 is various zones when PC launches due to my previous experience on console
>Every single one of them has been beaten
>Doesn't matter, for i was once the best PC Mania player

>>388796220
It is because if I do it before his animation ends I just go through him

>One of the hidden sign post item boxes in Press Garden is a blue ring
>Makes no difference destroying it before result screen
>Can't get it in act 2 because you run forward in the act transition
Literally why?

>>388796759
high scores for Green Hill zone are all .01 seconds.

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>>388781885

You can score 4 hits on him before the boss fight even starts. He's only got 8 hits. You can take him down the second time he comes up. Tails makes the fight even easier. Flame shield makes the entire thing a pushover as well. It's harder than some other bosses, but damn son, shit's easy.

I'd say get good, but I think it'd be appropriate to say, stop being so salty and shit at video games.

>>388797683
Maybe on PC but not console. I was second in the world at one point with 30.20 or something (act 1)

>>388787841

Because his super form glides at the same speed as his regular form

>>388788086
Also his Lava Reef boss fight is objectively better.

>>388787838
>hiding under the platform
What the fuck? Why would you do that?

>>388796257
Beat Titanic Monarch 1 without taking damage.

>>388788086
I'm genuinely surprised they didn't fix that in this game. There's no reason why you should be able to fall off the plane.

>>388793531
>worse with Super Sonic
It's worse because it's so long you run out of rings before the fight is over. They really should've cut out the first running section, it's so arbitrary.

>>388781885
that boss is bullshit I agree, but it's not that annoying when you learn how to do it:
1. kill the two turrets if you're having trouble hitting eggboy
2. take your time getting hits in
3. the rest shouldn't be difficult to deal with

>>388795707
This boss perfectly encapsulates Mania's problem with making bosses too obtuse and "unique".

The fight would've been perfectly fine if all you had to do was hit the cockpit. Many of the bosses are tediously long because of how arbitrary the method of damaging them is.

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>>388781885
I was playing as super sonic at that boss and couldn't die so I don't know what I've missed.

Does burning the oil damage him?

>>388800086
Spider is the best boss of the game.

>>388781885
>get Fire Shield
>While he's shooting his laser, stick under platform so he can't hit you
>when he pops out, dash like mad on his face and kill him in two cycles

Eezy peezy

>>388782282
Those robotic turtles look pretty cool.

>>388797756
>30.20
God damn. Here I was feeling good about my 53 some odd seconds. Do you have a recording of yourself doing this?

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>>388781885

>>388800561
No.

>>388800845
They're armadillos in this game. Even cooler.

>>388800852
Nah, I could do it again and record it but theres no point since its all over youtube and even faster than I did it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxfN8RTK9Jo

That one is almost identical to mine except with a couple differences to save 1.5 seconds. Really cant be bothered to go back and master it.

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>>388799947

>Metal Sonic is wagging his finger at you
>Ring count continues to dwindle

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How do people get so many game overs on a game this forgiving about lives?

I genuinely don't understand how you can be bad at Sonic games. They're some of the easiest platformers out there. My first time through the game I think I finished with 13+ lives?

Do people not know how to press down?

>>388801459

Really depends on how you play.

If you don't explore, then almost all of your extra lives will come from 100+ rings. And if they're new to Sonic and don't understand the most core principle of "Press down when going fast", then they likely hit enough enemies to lose their rings. And if they are as new as that, then they are also more likely to die in more places.

Good players have a ton of lives and don't need them, bad players get few lives and need more.

>>388801609
>Do people not know how to press down?
Literally yes, Tee Lopes was surprisingly bad on his stream but even he knew how to press down and finished with 10+ lives

>>388801768
>Press down when going fast

Sadly this actually slows you down in Mania

>>388787838
>just oil ocean boss + lava reef miniboss' arms
rehash

>>388802410
It seems tweaked so that the closer you approach rolling on level ground it slows you more than old games. But it seems like top rolling speed on adequately steep slopes is still better than running.

>>388802720
Ball was faster than running in sonic 3 and the retarded aerial spindash doesn't even go fast

>>388801193
Do you guys think theres any way to make money off of shit like this aside from streaming?

Decided to look up my achievement history and I realized that I'm pretty damn good at certain games when I want to be. I have really high ranks of games like trials fusion, hotline miami and like I mentioned sonic mania, and also some really rare achievements on tons of games

Fuck, the only people I've ever told about my high scores and times are my normie friends who just call it sad

>>388801609
I honestly think people who are bad at Sonic are playing it with a 'Mario game' mindset. i.e not taking Sonic's variable speed into account and playing as they would with a character with binary speed.

I can't help but see this when I watch people try to make long jumps from a stand still instead of getting a running start, or not using upward slopes as ramps to reach higher areas. Not really treating Sonic's speed as a superpower they can use, and more as a thing that happens to him.

YES! Just beaten the game with 43 lives!
...Is what i'd like to say, but the game froze before the extra boss, it was also a No Save for Super Peel-out purposes
Damnit, now i'll never be able to brag about it on chinese image boards

>tfw never died against this boss
git fucking gud

>>388804267
Don't worry, that shit ain't impressive.

>>388804347
Yes it is fuck you

>>388804374
If your 12 maybe, or are gamers really THIS casual now?

>>388796803
I played through S3&K many times and I still have no idea how to properly beat that boss without throwing myself at it and picking up rings until it dies

>>388804898
Probably have to spindash and then jump somewhere on the wall to launch yourself into the center of the screen where the boss is at. Don't know if you can clear the boss when he makes his rounds under water though since I mostly play as Sonic anyways.

>>388784858
Is it actually possible to lose that?

is this boss a casual filter?

I'm actually glad to know I'm not the only one with this problem. Isn't it the same as in Sonic 2 because I never had a problem with that one.

>>388781885
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>388786398
Playing it on my GPD Win, and no lie.
I beat the game with like 7 lives left and 4 out of 7 chaos emeralds.
Those later bonus levels are real buggers.

>>388800207
I don't really agree. Its good for Mania to seperate itself from the originals in some way

>>388805682
>4 out of 7 chaos emeralds.
Special Stage 5 huh? That's the hardest one by far
Not to go into details, the biggest thing is getting the left path at the second split, at high speeds you're likely to be thrown into the right one due to momentum but do your best to aim for the left

>>388805770
can't you just jump and turn so it acts like a drift of sorts?

>>388788086
This level is so buggy.
You can randomly die just getting into that gun.

ITS CRACKED

>>388805770

>the biggest thing is getting the left path at the second split

I cannot stress enough what this anon is saying. You literally will never catch the UFO if you go right at that juncture, it doesn't even seem like its that far out of the way but you just plain lose the UFO going that way.

>>388805763
Sonic 3's bosses were better by virtue of not wasting my time.

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Daily reminder that you should have all 7 emeralds by the end of Chemical Plant act 1.

>>388807215
I get by the end of act 2, where do i get more emeralds in GH1?

>>388807394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCgHJE-IgmU

>>388805770
Yeah thanks for the tip.
Got all 7 now.

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>>388808298

>didn't ride tails to glitch into Knuckles' route

Wow scrub

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>>388781885
>TFW beat it on first try as Knuckles without super form.

>tfw just beat final boss with Super Sonic.

Only took a couple of tries and its not as hard as you think.

You don't have to charge in, infact you can stockpile rings a bit by dodging them and collecting them. Don't press the flash dodge button either. You'll burn through the rings.

>>388785491
Actually I had the easiest time with this boss as Knuckles.
>glide and score 3 hits when he first pops up
>stick under the platforms and wait for spear and lasers to pass
>get two extra hits on gun while im still there, clearing them faster
Or just straight up glide into the base when it appears since the knockback you get from each hit also helps dodge incoming shots from the guns.
Its still a pain in the ass but I'll take 3 game overs as Knux over 13 game overs as Sonic

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I'm seeing a lot of hate for this boss. I don't like it either because its kind of boring, but he's one of the easier bosses.

>pulls arena down
>pops up for free 3-4 hits
>claw comes out of oil with an obvious sound cue
>laser comes next which all but one shot can be dodged by ducking; jump over the skidding laser shot which is a obvious visual cue
>turrets come out
>dodge the first two shots by jumping into the turret and break one in the first cycle
>rinse and repeat till the second turret is gone
>boss is now a free damage sponge

I think most people either go all out and try to go for all 8 hits at once, or get overwhelmed by nonthreatening things.

If there's one fight I don't understand its the titian monarch boss. I genuinely don't know how to beat eggman without getting hit at least once.

>>388783192
have you never fought a boss in your life? they are noy even good if you dont try at least 3 times

>>388796930
>tfw was number one in the world at Stardust Speedway
>someone beats my time by two seconds
>say it isn't worth it
>end up trying anyway cause I'm insane
>sweat for two hours until I beat it at last by a second to be number one again
>next day two people have a five second lead on me

It just ain't worth it

>>388781885
Oil Ocean is my favourite level tho. beat it on first try, loved the music, both bosses easy as pie.

>>388781885
My only problem with this boss is that it has some weird hitboxes and some outright glitches. The tentacle balls' hitboxes are way too big or in the wrong place; they've killed/damaged me when I'm visibly a good 5+ pixels away from them. Once I tried to roll into one of the tentacle balls as it was sinking into the oil, but it sank far enough below the platform that I couldn't damage it in ball form. Yet, when I uncurled, I was close enough to it that it killed me.
Plus out of 3 playthroughs, it's happened to me 2 times that I got instant-killed by crushing from the platforms sinking into oil while standing ON TOP of them.
And its never happened to me, but I've seen multiple streamers straight up fall through the oil to their death as if it isn't even there.
If not for the glitches it would be a decently designed fight. Unless you're Knuckles because his jump height means if you fall in the oil good luck getting out.

>>388811987
Hey man you must be pretty good at Sonic to achieve even that.
But there are major Sonic autists out there so don't feel guilty.

I had a friend that could get Hyper Sonic every damn time in Sonic 3 and Knuckles, and basically did a speed run of the whole game in one sitting at a sleepover.

>>388812397
>I had a friend that could get Hyper Sonic every damn time in Sonic 3 and Knuckles
Jesus

>>388812458

He was one of the top ranking Command and Conquer 3 players as well when he played it regularly.
Nice guy honestly, but weird as fuck.

We once told him to keep banging his head as hard as he could on a table at school once and the madman actually did it. Several times actually just to freak us out.

And the fucker just laughs it off. Blood curdling loud bangs they were too.

>>388785403
>there's a bug where sometimes falling into the oil when the platforms get pulled under results in an instant death.
That's the whole point of pulling them down, going in the oil under the platform is the safest area during the laser/spear phase, that pulling down was made to fuck with people doing that.

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>>388796803
>>388804898
>>388805143

Are you guys for fucking real? Knuckles gets 8 easy hits in by just bouncing into the boss and clinging back into the wall during the cyclone attack.

That boss is demolished by Knuckles. Just about every boss in Mania except for FBZ1, SPZ2 and TMZ1 get destroyed by him by bouncing and gliding.