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>Knock off game is more fun than the thing it's based

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>Knock off game is more fun than the thing it's based on

Would Paladins have been a big success if Overwatch didn't exist?
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>>388715527
Hard to say
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hirez pubg clone w h e n
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I imagine it still would've done better than stillborn
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What's the best role and why is it front line?
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you are implying that overwatch is the knockoff right?
because it is,
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>>388715527
no if overwatch didnt exist it still needed to compete with stillborn
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>>388715527
If it was a weird paradoxic world where paladins started as what it is now...
It'd probably be doing a lot better than it is now, but the fact that HiRez made it would probably steer a lot of people away cause Tribes and Global Agenda spite.
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>>388715739
>tribes
kek, you fags wont let hirez go even if it kills you
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>>388715527
Why? Overwatch is dying to PUBG.
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Paladins wouldn't exist if Overwatch didn't exist
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>>388715631
Ash is cute in an edgy way and also fun to play. Bouncing enemies off the point never gets old.
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>>388715631
There's no frontliners, just flanks with shields
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>>388715828
I know. They should be glad HiRez kept Tribes alive as long as they did, considering no one else wanted to touch it.
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>>388715918
>Not holding that point like your life depends on it, tanking a gorillion damage
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>>388715605
That could unironically be multiplayer GOTY if they could keep their greed in check for 5 minutes
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>EAAVIEEEAUHEH

I FUCKING HATE HOW THIS RETARDED DUMB SLUT TALKS JUST SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH YOU DUMB BITCH OH MY GOD
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Reminder that Maeve is basically an easier Genji
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>>388716012
How are they greedy?
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>>388715704
>competing with Stillborn
kek
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>>388716318
>Forgetting the saga of Tribes Ascend
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This game is annoying as fuck because it's impossible to carry. Your shitty teammates WILL lose the game for you.
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>>388715527
>No blond hunky chad

shit game
no wonder its not popular
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>>388717032
But there's Fernando
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>>388717061
>spic

bleeehh....
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>>388717136
He's Spanish.
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>>388717136
>Spaniard
>Spic
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>>388716708
>leaving a niche game with small player base is being greedy

To continue supporting Tribes would be idiotic.

The fact that hey kept the server alive even at a loss(they can't possibly get any money from Tribes nowadays) is already a kind enough gesture from them.
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>>388716708
The game didn't earn them money. They stopped supporting it because the players didn't support it.

They even brought it back because idiots like you kept whining yet you don't even play it, you only whine.
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>is more fun
oh wow, people presenting subjective views as objective
classic /v/
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Poor subhumans cant afford overwatch so they have to keep telling themselves that overwatch is the clone
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>>388717675
>triggered
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>>388717695
nice strawman
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>>388715631
>tfw I always use Fernando on siege and my friend uses Viktor
>tfw both of us can carry the whole team
Also, why is Androxus so good? That reversal is one of the best moves in game.
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>>388715527
I buyed the founder pack some months ago . The characters are fun and the card system is kinda enjoyable even with the shitty ressources system. But holy shit, the pub are the bane of fun and they WILL lose the game at all cost. Fuck you, sniper grovers
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>>388717675
>>388717695
where did these blizzdrones suddenly come from?
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Sha Lin n Strix outclass rest of dmg chars

Prove me wrong
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>>388717578
they killed it with hitscan and pay 2 win with new guns
the only playbase that was left to kill was the new blood, the whiny vets fucked of ages ago you cock slobbing faggot
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>>388717695
>they have to keep telling themselves that overwatch is the clone
I mean, it is, there's no real argument about that.
>Took Ruckus as a character, months later took his new missiles
>Took Evie's ice block
>Took Skye and made her mexican
>Took the robot character from GIGANTIC
>Rest of OW was basically a hideous morph of TF2 and popular MOBAs
Overwatch is wholly unoriginal, and even worse, makes no attempt to add on from what they were "inspired by".
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>>388718020
i dont even play the game
stop falseflagging, faggot
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>>388717987
Grover is the second best sniper in game
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>>388719113
>falseflagging
please stop using words you don't understand, reddit-kun
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I WILL NOT DIE, NOT YET AMIGO
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>>388717695
why do people think being paid implies there are no third worlders? If anything from my experience big paid games have more of those people than f2p games
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>>388719462
Yeah, you can always "rent" the game via internet cafe in asia anyway.
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>>388719404
>Enemy team ganged up on me
>"I WILL NOT DIE, NOT YET AMIGO"
>tfw Skye team mate goes "TIME'S TICKING"
>tfw we whooped their assess.
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>>388719404
STEP INTO THE LIGHT
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>>388719462
true, being paid is not a restriction to anyone, kids just ask their parents to get it like they did with Call of Duty all these years and 3rd worlders have reduced prices on them or just play in cafes
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>>388720269
>tfw skye's right click is more powerful than her fucking ult now
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>>388715527
Paladins is worse than TF2. They attempted to evolve with the moba like abilities but it just clutters up the UI and makes it so the characters have no real personality.

Overwatch on the other hand is also worse than TF2 - for a shooter. It's a pretty good team game though, if you get some friends.
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>>388720517
>>388719462

Being paid isn't a restriction to kids, no. To thrid worlders? Absolutely. They haven't ot two coins to rub together while piggybacking off someone else's internet - f2p games are like drugs to them.
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>>388715605
Would unironically be very popular if they made it.
Knowing hi-rez their game would be f r e e and in unreal engine 3 so it would run on toasters.

PUBG is currently alienating two audiences:
>people who can't/won't pay 30 euros for a game
>people who can't run pubg
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>>388721445
>this is what burgers think about third worlders

lmao anon, let me tell you, poor people who live in shacks have fucking cable because of their screwed up priorities, never underestimate a poor man's spending ability when it comes to entertainment
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>poor's man overwatch
lmoa'ing @ u're lyfe
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>>388721476
I actually would like to see HiRez do something like PUBG and Warframe.

They are currently working on a new project, hopefully it's something close.
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Paladins has dozens of characters.

Overwatch has 7, the rest are unusable.

What's your excuse now overwatchbabs?
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>>388721937
paladins might have better game balance, but it doesn't have nearly as much porn
whats the point having a bunch of hot girl characters if you can't even see em getting railed
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>>388722156
stop looking at tumblr

most of the paladins art I've seen for some odd reason are "weaboo"-ish in style, but then again it's probably because most are from 4chan
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>>388722310
>stop looking at tumblr
i did when they made it so you had to make an account to look at the porn
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>>388718823
wtf I hate overwatch now
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>>388722156
sadly true.
Paladins does have porn but not even near the amount of porn that OW has. but hey, at least we have more than Stillborn or Cuckbreakers
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Bomb King, Makoa, Drogoz, Ying, Cassie, Inara, Strix, Skye, Seris, Ash, and Fernando are top notch well-designed characters.
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>>388722524
if stillborn had any attractive women in it to make porn of im sure randy wouldn't have had to start his own reddit for it
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>>388722645
The game only have BADASS women in it.
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>>388715527
no because they didn't spent half a billion dollars on market-research
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Who is the most fun character to play and why is it Evie?
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>>388722538
Drogoz is really good, for a game without lore you can easily see his personality even by just watching his mastery emote.
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>>388715527
>knock off
this meme needs to stop
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>>388722876
Ash, nothing beats pushing enemies off the point over and over again while shouting "you're amazing senpai!"
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>>388723006
Don't forget that Ash has the no. 1 ass in the game too
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>>388722424
What is this?

>>388722538
>Disliking Jenos the star man who takes literal centuries to style his hair
Worship me.
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>>388722887
I still can't make up he's tsundere though. Like some of his voice clips makes it sound like he does care and he has feelings despite being a greedy lizard.
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>>388723052
I used to only play Fernando and Barik but after I played Ash on ranked I find that she's really fun to play.
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>>388723097
maybe if he loses the mask
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>>388716940

So basically overwatch?
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>>388722887
>>388723218
I like how even without lore you can tell canon "tiers"

gods are Makoa, Inara, Grover, Jenos, Seris, Androxus, and Mal'damba

mortals are definitely most of the cast with varying power sources, like Evie being a witch while Viktor is just a regular soldier
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>>388723391
basically every team-based multiplayer game.
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>>388723391
basically any team based online game, overwatch didn't invent retarded teammates
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>>388723097
>What is this?
That's HK-203. Gigantic was in beta for a long time and this was one of their earliest characters. Nowadays everyone calls him a bastion ripoff
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I fucking love Macuddles
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>>388715527
hello paladin players I like to play Barik but cant seem to win on him is it because hes bad or am I just using the wrong cards?
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>>388724776
use Healing Station card and get Master Riding so you can setup early.(with Architechtonics legendary)

If you have good aim, use Tinkerin legendary.
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>>388718823
>Blizzard rips off everything but has budget and polish
>nobody bats an eye
Why do people like this company
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>>388724776
He's pretty bad, the tinkerin card makes him a bit better though
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>>388724063
>>388724086

I dunno guys, it's especially painful in overwatch

At least in other games if you are losing you can still have some fun
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>>388724849
>>388724865
Thanks for the replys i just really want the engie skin
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>>388715527
>forces you to play against bots
>have to play for 100 hours just to unlock competitive mode
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>>388725191
>have to play for 100 hours just to unlock competitive mode
not anymore. You now only need to be lvl 15 and have 12 champs unlocked to enter comp.
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>>388717695
Paladins has more depth with the whole purchase upgrades during battle shit.

Also the heroes have bigger titties.
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>>388725191
>You have to learn how to play with more than one character to play competetive
>Forces you to play against bots for the first 5 levels so you can learn at least the basics
WOW
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>>388722538
>No Lex
You disgust me
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>>388724709
Volcanic skin + googly eyes and a plush cannon is the way to go.
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>>388725305
>it takes a dozen matches to learn how to pointy shooty at hitboxes that make Overwatch's hitboxes look like CSGO
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>>388725328
Lex is just Lucian from LoL
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>>388725328
Lex gives me motion sickness now because of the camera shake when he shoots
So he can take his autoaim instakill bullshit and fuck off
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>>388725382
but what about the voice
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why is he such a perfect tank?
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So, will they announce a new champ this friday?
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>>388725448
I've been playing since it came to steam. Haven't had a single issue with hitboxes so far. Is that really so much of a problem?
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>>388725698
because I CAN SEE A PIECE OF MYSELF IN YOU
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>>388725730
no champ this week, only QoL so far
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Why are you guys falling for this Hi-Rez shilling so hard?
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MOMMY INARA!!!!
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>>388725448
>it takes a dozen matches to learn how to pointy shooty at hitboxes that make Overwatch's hitboxes look like CSGO
Though a downside of the game, I think, ultimately, having large hitboxes was a good decision for the Paladins devs to make.

When you have characters varying from tall and jacked(Fernando, Buck, Grover) to tiny, jumpy and skinny(Pip, Maeve), having pixel perfect hitboxes would suck with how character sizes can affect how powerful they can be. Hell, in Overwatch, the only reason Winston counters Genji is because Winston requires 0 aim and Genji jumps around like a fly on coke. If Paladins had CSGO hitboxes, Maeve, Pip, and 90% of the female cast would be so much more powerful just because they're so much harder to hit.
>>388725827
I doubt it's Hi-Rez, just autistic fanboys with an inferiority complex.
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>>388725827
because I've played the game and while it could use more polish and bug fixes it actually is better than OW.
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>>388725827
the game is free m8, even if you "fall for the shilling" and don't like it all you lose is a few minutes of time
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>GAYS INTO THE ABYSS
why is seris homophobic?
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>>388725698
>tfw I have a 100% winrate with him

It shouldn't be physically possible for any one man to be this perfect.
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>>388725827
>one thread on /v/
>10 threads of OW on /v/ a day
>yet Hi-Rez is the shills
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>>388726116
Pick your semen demon
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>>388726116
She's just making America great again, nothing wrong with that.
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>>388726201
GOD TIER 5
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>>388726123
>Rescued maidens that rewarded me with sex
>another Nando and makoa
kek
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>>388724086
>>388724063
True in a general sense, but these hero shooters drag the skill ceiling down even further.
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Post YFW Blizzard makes a PUBG-clone
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>>388726123
HOT! HOT and spicy!
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>>388726123
Why is Makoa is there?
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>>388726116
>JEWS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE
Wow
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>>388726201
Almost all of these are better than the final design. How come?
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>>388726395
>NO ONE ESCAPES ALLAH
wew
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>>388726395
>YOU CHALLENGE WHITE POWA?
low rez can't keep getting away with this
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>>388726396
because their design team needs to be replaced by their Paladins Strike design team from China.
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>>388715605
If they made it people would actually be able to play it because they won't ban anyone for killing a streamer
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>>388726545
>Paladins Strike
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>>388726201
Give me 6 or give me death
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>>388726545
The design team isn't from china. Which means the difference could come to Paladins~
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>>388726625
Skye is alright but what about Cassie, any good lewd costumes of her?
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>>388726625
Tencent is trying to make another mobile MOBA that get them lots of money? Didn't that moba get them more money than fucking LoL?
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>>388722156
>but it doesn't have nearly as much porn
Who cares? Honey Select exists
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>>388726545
>paladins strike
holy fuck this looks terrible
i didn't think phone games could get any worse
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>>388715527
probably not.
it's not polished, balanced or fun, plus the character designs are fucking awful
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>>388726979
You should see the Titanfall mobile game by Nexon
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>>388726797
That's what HiRez said, but I don't believe them one bit. The artstyle in Strike screams asian-made game. So I would assume only the programmers are from HiRez but the design team are from China.

Either that or they now have HiRez China so they can say that all development are done "in-house" and they wouldn't be lying.
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It needs more lil boys
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>>388726625
goddamn why can't overwatch have tits like this, why does ever character have to be a plank
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Why do they have to make the females so hot? It's distracting while playing
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>>388727008
>not polished
yes
>not balanced
Much more balanced that OW
>not fun
subjective I guess, so okay.
>character designs are awful
some of them, yeah. At least the waifus are still pretty cute.
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>>388727195
Hirez hired a bunch of graphical staff near the beginning of the year and the game is most likely targeting Asia first.
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>>388726186
The past week I've seen the most threads of this mediocre trite game than I have since its beta started. The same week another, similar game trying to actively eat at the BBC Overwatch cock, Lawbreakers, actively kills itself in a Randy Pitchford-shaped fire.

Your shitty Hi-Rez game that's going to be abandoned in the next year or two is licking up the pathetic scraps of a competitor.
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>>388727241
Because Overwatch is cookie cutter as fuck and has no sort of edge to it.
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>>388727582
___________Ok.____________
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>>388727334
>At least the waifus are still pretty cute.
If you're tasteless and like your waifus to look like generic the most generic shit possible, sure
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>>388717160
>>388717218
Hispanic applies to Spaniards too.
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>>388717978
andro used to be soo much better when he had the "nether step has separate charges" legendary. but typically he's only good because you're good at playing him. also, reversal is one of the best moves in the game because people are braindead and insist on shooting him when the animation starts even though it means they will die
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>>388727582
Paladins is doing so much better than Cuckbreaker though. The ripoff controversy actually made it much more popular.

Also, with HiRez's aggressive updat schedule I'm not really worried about the game's future for quite some time. At least until everyone and their mother are developing PUBG clones.
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>>388715527
>more fun
>is still awful
>the genre is just terrible
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>>388727582
who cares?
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>>388727854
It doesn't at all actually.
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>>388727840
generic or not, can't argue with cute. Besides, I like Ying better.
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Why is it that overwatch shills get so mad at the sight of this game? Is it because it proves that you can have more content and actually be fun while being 'free'?
Really gets the nutrients firing in all sorts of blood streams...
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>>388726123
>>388725698
This is a good team. It's like a regular team but with me in it!
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>>388728012
it can definitely be awful but a big reason why i have a bad time playing is is because of the userbase. the game being f2p is what got me into it but the same is true of a lot of very young people who play it like team deathmatch and make the quality of the matches usually very poor whether they're pulling on my team or on the other side. if it werent for that it'd be way more fun
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>>388728147
Blizzard appeals to the casual audience(which is why their games are extremely popular) so a lot of Blizzdrones are retarded, not really a surprise.
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>>388727008
>>388727334
Bomb King and Makoa are better designed than most of OW's cast.
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>*blocks your damage*
What did Hi-Rez mean by this?
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>>388715527
Who is everyones fav character to play?
Grohk and Lian here
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>>388728330
block this
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>>388728469
Cassie all day err day
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>>388728330
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR
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>>388728469
J E N O S T H E G O D
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>>388728535
https://paladins.gamepedia.com/media/paladins.gamepedia.com/4/40/Huntress_Skin04_SP_Joke_1.ogg
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>>388717695
i have both games and i legit enjoy paladins more

theres so much less shit to keep track of in overwatch, besides paladins gets new heroes at a much faster rate
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>>388728095
I want this degenerate waifu meme to die already.
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>game adds sex appeal
>/v/ likes it
What a surprise.
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>>388728469
Ash, Nando, Barik
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Each new champion is more annoying than the last
All culminating in the invisible sniper strix
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>>388728469
I like a lot lex (even tho I miss his 900 Magnums), Lian and pretty much all the support/front line branch
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>>388728728
True, strix is very sexy.
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>>388728747
Strix is shit though, can't kill like Kinessa and can't even support unlike Nessa's mines
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>>388726625
>Paladins Strike
If they were doing a mobile game with the twin sticks
why not just port the actual gameplay
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>>388728787
>Strix is very cute
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>>388728842
it's not twin sticks though
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>>388728834
*go invis
*shoot you for 2k1
Psst, nothing personnel kid
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>>388728728
This is the most generic slut I've ever seen and of course nu-/v/ laps it up.

What possessed Hi-Rez to have such shit character design?
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>>388728881
>>388728787
his woohoo is cute

https://paladins.gamepedia.com/media/paladins.gamepedia.com/3/3c/Owl_VGS_Emote_W.ogg
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>>388728881
pls dont bully owlboy hes going through rough times right now
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>>388715527
the characters all look like fantasy characters instead of SJW affirmative action inserts. i'd play this game if i liked these kinds of games
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>>388729028
>What possessed Hi-Rez to have such shit character design?

They never had great character design.
Then again neither did Overwatch.
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Paladins was in development before Overwatch.
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>>388729028
>what possessed Hi-Rez to have such shit character-design?
Nothing, they are just Hi-Rez, it's in their blood.
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>>388729028
her face is shitty
She looks like the main guy from a clockwork orange
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>>388729028
>decrying sex appeal
>calling others nu-/v/
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>even evolve had more charismatic and unique characters

Why is it so difficult to make decent characters in a hero shooter?
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>>388729028
She is hella sexy. Makes my wiener tingly wingly
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>>388729170
>Paladins was in development before Overwatch.

It was also changed to be more like Overwatch during development.
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>>388729353
>stronk black woman
>Abe Sapien with a bug skin
>le viking man
>Splinter Cell dude
?!
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>>388729432
designs are the same and abilities too
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>>388729353
>even evolve had more charismatic and unique characters
pic unrelated obvs
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>>388729137
at least overwatch's token purple slut spices it up by giving her blue skin.

It's really that easy to make your character stand out no matter how tropey they are, but for some reason Hi-Rez is incapable of even that. This Skye character is just so purple and boring.
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>>388729432
The old siege mode is likely to come back in future updates,tho
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Make way for cutest OG mercy~
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>>388729505
using your greentext approach literally any character can be regarded as shit

besides, what really made the characters stand out was the voiceacting and dialogue, which isn't something i can say for overwatch or paladins, only tf2.
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>>388729672
>/v/ is literally praising evolve
uh
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>>388729028
I think it's generic but it's not any worse than any other hyper-sexualized girl in a videogame. Like that Menat girl /v/ is talking about today, just a sexy mummy costume prone to shaking her hips. Paladins sexualizes the women a lot but they do have pretty funny and real personalities.
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>>388728147
blizzdrones are fanatically devoted to blizzard so seeing something better puts them into full on irrational rage mode
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>>388729353
Archetypes. If it's something that was done before, it's generic. If not, it's shit/tryhard. If it's good, it actually isn't and you'll shit on it anyway.
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>>388729552
>pic unrelated obvs

Not really, but I slapped together one that shows it off better.

>>388729885
>>/v/ is literally praising evolve

I'm not a mindless retard that hates everything or loves everything about a game.
Evolve had a fuckton of problems, but the characters weren't one of them.
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>>388730016
>>388730016
>funny and real personalities
Everything I've seen with this Skye character has only pointed to her being a generic slut. Where's the personality in that? I'm not picky; I could forgive that if she at least had an interesting design, but no she's just an elf wearing a featureless purple suit. It's a raw design and it's just fucking boring.

Menat's nothing special either, but at least she plays with the "mystical fortune teller" trope by incorporating generic belly-dancing shit and making her bubbly and girly. It's not revolutionary characterization, but it's at least something to latch onto. So many of the characters in Paladins don't have even this one simple thing.
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>>388730568
Some of those actually look decent
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Paladins has pip, that makes it better than overwatch automatically
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>>388731553
someone post the furfag collage
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>>388729353
Say what you want about Evolve as a game, but the story, the characters, the designs, and the voice acting were all fucking sublime.

If they had focused on a significant single player story mode for the game, it'd absolutely be in a completely different place.
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>>388727234

Pip is a lil boi
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get rid of the retarded mount and I would of liked it maybe
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>>388732018
No, fuck off.
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>>388731190
>Everything I've seen with this Skye character has only pointed to her being a generic slut.
She's a slut, but I'd disagree about her being generic. If I had to imagine a generic slut, I'd think up more of a streetwalker-looking girl who only talks about parties, booze, and sex. Skye's a dumb slut, but that's not all there is. She's patronizing, teasing, easy-going, and a little narcissistic(actually a common theme with Paladins characters... looking at Fernando and Bomb King here).
> It's a raw design and it's just fucking boring.
Ok, I may seem delusional here, but I think that was intentional.
Overwatch, for example, makes their characters out to be superheroes- one of a kind. There's not an army of engineer dwarves in the OW lore, but there is THE Torbjorn. There's not any group of cyborg ninjas, but there is ONE Genji. Talking Gorilla isn't a race in OW, but there is Winston, y'know? And that's cool.
But While OW focuses more on the characters themselves, and thus designs them more fleshed out and unique, Paladins characters aid in the worldbuilding by not wearing a superhero costume, but wearing a uniform. There's not ONE Skye, there's an entire clan of purple-clad assassins. There's not ONE Lex, there's an entire group of Lawmen patrolling the land. When there are unique characters in Paladins, you see it; there's no group of Knights exactly like Fernando, and his character has unique, fancy robot armor that doesn't look like any knight. But otherwise, the characters aren't based around being unique.
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>>388732018
>retarded mount
In what way is it retarded? Helps you get to the point/payload quicker. Fairly easy to navigate. Can even buy a mount booster so you get there quicker (very useful for tanks)
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>>388729028
that's because ninja is better
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Willo is great at annoying people.
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>>388731915
>If they had focused on a significant single player story mode for the game, it'd absolutely be in a completely different place.

I agree.
Them working on a game for Perfect World Entertainment has me worried though. Not only because it won't have anything to do with Evolve, but because it's Perfect World.
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>>388732331
>THE SPIRITS DO NOT REST
>"decay~"
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>>388723006
Ash is the absolute best. Ass thumping people of the point or to their death never gets old.
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>>388732434
with how much time you spend on 4chan jerking off your main, do you even have time to play her
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>>388732771
I want to fuck Drogoz while whispering "lizard" to his ear
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>>388732150
If you're telling me Skye is supposed to be a part of some sort of group, that just makes her design even more infuriating.

What was stopping them from slapping some sort of unique brand or emblem on her that represented that group? It would have implied she's a part of an organization. I'm not seeing anything like that anywhere on her body, and I'm not seeing any other character that looks similar to her that would also imply there's an organization of generic purple idiots.

That alone probably wouldn't have saved her design, but it would have at least been one tiny thing in a design that's utterly vapid and thoughtless. All I see in this game are vapid and thoughtless designs.
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>>388715903
Paladins was a successor to Tribes 2,
Even if there was no Overwatch Paladins would still be pretty similar to what it is now.
In fact if there was no Overwatch Lawbreaker and Battleborn probably would all probably be thriving right now.
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Paladins is fun but looks so god damn ugly god damn
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>>388715527
>Literally Overwatch but for third worlders and kids who's parents wouldn't let them buy Overwatch

It's kinda sad seeing all these posts seeking reassurance from others.
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>>388717695
>implying I don't play both, but prefer paladins anyway
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>>388732197
it's helpful but it just looks stupid to me I dunno
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>>388722538
>Skye

Everything else you posted was fine
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>>388733375
>Own both
>Play both
>Have fun with Paladins more lately
Yeah, nah, you're a cunt.
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>>388715918
Spotted the trash flank main
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>>388733110
Bomb King and Makoa exist
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>>388715527
Hi rez isn't allowed to make games that are popular. Also im mad about how much they care about smite nowadays.
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>>388733581
I dunno why I posted her, meant to post Mal'damba
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>>388716940
This.

Competitive mode is unplayable if you play it alone, you need to play it with atleast 2 other people.

Then there's the retarded people who pick flank even if we already have one, also some paladins are horribly underpowered in normal comp and 9/10 having one of these WILL lose you the game (shalin, cassie, kinesa, pip)

Also Drogoz and Willo are kind of OP
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>>388734153
>lose
>cassie
>sha lin
>pip
>fucking cassie

l
m
a
o
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>>388718102
Shalin is not a true damage champ and most times it will cost you the game. He needs a serious rework ASAP as well as Cassie
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>>388715918
Maxed out shield cards makoa holds points. Stop being bad.
>what roadhog should've been
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>>388734153
you can carry entire games with just 1 friend in ranked
you can carry qp games solo (excluding if the other team are stacked)
it really isn't that difficult
if you can't carry in paladins, you can't carry in any game point blank period
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>>388734153
The worst for comp are
>skye
>shitnessa
>that asian guy with a sword
Shalin is usually not so bad. Cassie is still great. Pip too.
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>>388734318
>cassie

again where are you fags coming from, Cassie is like one of the high tier champs
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I've played Drogoz since I was a paladinsbabby and now I can't work up the nerve to try and learn anything else. send help
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>>388733909
Only a few characters actually stand out to me. A few good ones doesn't save the fact that some of these characters are so aggressively, actively mediocre they poison the whole pool.

How could they fuck up the "little midget riding a thing" character so hard? They just slapped the most generic goblin into the most boring robot I've ever seen, it's a double whammy of raw.
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>>388715527
If you use skye with the "cooldown instantly resets on every kill" legendary, you will have unlimited kills.
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>>388734605
At least learn willo
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>>388734153
>shalin, cassie
>bad in comp
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>388734632
I already named more than a few.

For every Sha Lin there's Drogoz and Ying.
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>>388734632
why do you post his old model?
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>>388734732
>playing as a little blue baby
no
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>>388734929
Willo is pink though, were you thinking of Evie?
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>>388734929
she's pink
evie is more fun than drogoz too though
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>>388735032
>>388735034
>WOMEN
>O
>M
>E
>N
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>>388726594
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>>388735205
PIPFUCKERS GET OUT OUT OUTTTTTTTTTTTT
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>>388735034
Evie is OP as shit
>go on the forum
>WTF BUFF EVIE PLZ
what the fuck
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>>388732771
I have plenty of time because rounds are won quickly if you're playing as Ash.
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>>388733375
Overwatch is Overwatch for third worlders.
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>>388735365
>WTF BUFF EVIE PLZ
it me
im always down for my girl to get unnecessary buffs
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>>388734416
She should be flank instead

Also her ultimate is a meme
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>>388735536
faggot
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>>388734850
Nice arguments
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>>388734861
Drogoz is a design that doesn't go far enough; if he's supposed to be greedy, why didn't they incoporate more gold onto him? Why just the green armor? It's still just so generic looking to me.

I almost wanna say that Battleborn did this sort of character better; the asymetrical wings are a lot more interesting than the few baubles Drogoz wears.
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>>388735676
sarahproblem?
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>>388734402
Skye is ok now
Kinesa is good if we have another damage (so instead of a flank)
Zhin is actually pretty good
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>>388733375
funny becasuse overwatch is played mainly by third worlders
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>>388725929
Inara is lovely
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>>388734153

>also some paladins are horribly underpowered in normal comp and 9/10 having one of these WILL lose you the game (shalin, cassie, kinesa, pip)

>pip

Pip was doing so well in the last Paladin's pro league that he got banned during picks.
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>>388735849
Why do I want Drogoz to be gaudy? He already has enough ornaments in his body.

Also I agree Benny is great, but that doesn't trivialize Drogoz too.
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what are we going to do about the autistic buck problem?
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>>388729432
>changed to be more like Overwatch during development.
But thats wrong
It was always like overwatch but then they changed it in the cb to be less like it to be more unique
None of the test players liked it so they went fuck it and brought it back to what it originally aka overwatch 2.0
the only feature that was taken from overwatch were the topplays and changing knocked out to elimination
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>>388736149
Buck needs a buff.
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>>388735849

You are right.

Drogoz needs gold rings on his toes so I can imagine myself pulling them off with my teeth.
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>>388735767
>Sha Lin
>1k damage per shot
>5 sec of stealth plus extra damage when come out of stealth
>stun for 1s
>his Q deals 4800 damages over 3s
>Cassie
>infinite rolls
>high burst
You're just bad.
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>>388736149
I never see buck in comp
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>>388734153
>>Also Drogoz and Willo are kind of OP
Then learn how to play a flank
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>>388736230
>HERE'S THE WINDUP
>*autistic train noises*
Is this where it all went wrong?
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>>388736327
Then why everytime I get a shalin on my team we lose and why everytime the enemy team has a shalin we win?

Same goes for Cassie, they're good for high level 5 people team comp, like on leagues and shit, but on the regular comp? Hell no.
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>>388716012
So never?
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>>388736149
The same thing we do to the autistic owl man. Embrace it.
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>>388736401
why does everyone bully Buck
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>>388736141
If your dragon character is going to insist on being so humanoid-shaped, than yes you DO want to slap as much character-defining shit as you reasonably can, because otherwise he's just going to look like the generic lizardman wearing green armor like how I see him.

Give each of his fingers some gaudy rings, strap some more gold necklaces around him, give him a tiny little crown or something, just give him something because the green armor is overpowering everything in this design.
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>>388736671
>bad players can't aim
>it's the game fault
God damn.
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>>388736757
But he already has a bunch of jewelry.

Also there's a reason he wears green armor - it has a jetpack. Hell, you even calling him a lizardman is pretty much part of his character.
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>>388736757
>the green armor is overpowering everything in this design.

Do you want him to just go out there naked with only some jewellery? He's got to protect himself somehow from everyone else's Firepower.
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>>388725305
>it still doesn't stop people from being trash
The European Colonization was a mistake.
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>>388725827
a ton of /v/ is from the third world. guess what this game caters to, considering its free (to play) and that it can run on any computer.
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>>388736401
>*train noises*
>MUH PERSONAL SPACE REEEEEEEE

Holy shit, you're right.
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>>388729170
they were in development around the same fucking time
>b-but Aurum!
Titan.
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why Lian is so mean?
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>>388715527

No.
It's a hi-rez cashgrab, barely marketed and hugely underwhelming. Not only it's not polished enough in every aspect (maps, server stability, character design, character interactions, animations and such), the pacing is fucked up and the whole card system is almost insulting.
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>>388729649
She's so obnoxious
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>>388737841
Just a prank, bro.
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>>388737841
>make an obnoxious character but strong af
>give her a much better voice to go with the cosmetic set
Fucking jewrez.
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>>388736953
The armor (and by extension the jetpack) aren't necessarily the problem; all I'm saying is that when I first saw this character I hardly even noticed the jewelry and the little bands he's wearing until I read a bit about him; he was just a lizard wearing green armor and a jetpack.

It's a character that screams to me like they just wanted a rocket launcher dragon, but because they couldn't even make him look cool or unique, they slapped a barebones amount of gold on him and called him greedy. It's so half-hearted.

Here's a different dragon character from a different (superior) game: he's nothing terribly special either and is probably one of the game's weaker designs, but at least they went with something different and distinct while still being distinctly "dragon". The best thing about a unique body like this is that it feels a lot more natural once you learn his characterization; his small stubby body juxtaposes the fact he considers himself royalty and how literal height dictates his people's nobility.
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>>388715527
just played a game of this and god its horrible
>you cant tell whos using which skill
>aim and gun feel is always off
>fucking mounts and cards
>characters locked behind paywalls
>damage is either too low or too high
>all those ripoffs
>everyone looks like theyre from a dreamworks movie
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>>388738631
>I played one game so I understand everything

Ok
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>>388738615
I don't know he looks like your generic RPG dragonish caster.
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>>388738615
just because you don't understand drogoz from the outset doesn't mean his design doesn't make sense, again there's a reason why he mostly looks like a lizard with a jetpack

hell it's funny you pull that shit and you went with "oh but this Pyromancer makes sense because stuff"
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>>388737450
Titan was an MMO
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>>388738615
Looks like a generic dragon mage to me. Not even good enough as trash mob for a dragon themed dungeon in an MMO.

try again
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>>388738615
>that's a dragon
What the fuck?
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>>388739076
It was still what Overwatch was previously. And Aurum or whatever the fuck Proto-Paladins was wasn't a objective based hero shooter, it was more along the lines of Global Agenda. Still doesn't change the fact that they were developed around the same time and that the directors are most likely in cahoots with each other seeing as they both share the same last name.
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>>388738615
>>388715527

Gigantic is a literal million times better than the paladins garbage.

Anybody who disagrees gets a fist.
/Thread
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>>388738615
Dunno, a rocket launcher "dragon" that prides himself on dragon this dragon that yet has no wings and doesn't spit fire and relies on a jetpack and cannon seems pretty unique to me.
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>>388739017
Are you saying I missed some sort of secret ingredient to Drogoz that makes him a character that isn't just a lizard with a jetpack?

Neither of these dragon characters are anything beyond generic, but only one of them from their design alone is at least trying to do something with the "dragon" template.
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>>388739628
>>388739621
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>>388737841
>cutest
>obnoxious
lmaoanongetbettertaste
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>>388740306
That's a cute backstory, it's too bad that he still looks boring as shit and his design still reeks of the Hi-Rez brand of mediocrity.
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>>388739628
>trying to do something with the "dragon" template.
So basically "because he's a dragon he must be more dragon-themed"
That's clearly more generic is it not?
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>>388739621
this implies people care about lore (read: they don't)
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>>388739628
>generic generic generic
I don't understand why it's a problem or an insult if the "generic" character is still well made
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>>388741287
It's just really lazy criticism. There's a lot I don't like about current designs, but they're far from generic.
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>>388740975
What lore?

The only lore i know is about Grohk.

You don't need to know any lore about Drogoz since it's all exposed to you if you play with him.

Constantly talks about gold.

Can't spit fire and has to use a cannon.

Can't fly despite talking shit to others about being a dragon.

You don't need to read up anything. Just play the character.
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>>388728325
Don't be a fucking moron.
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>>388741502
In my opinion it's just spewing buzzwords without thinking about it, and just slapping the word when you feel like it simply to shit on a game.
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>>388741571
Oh
Well how are they not a better design?
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overwatch is better than paladins because spics
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>>388741630
Pretty much a majority of /v/ these days. Gone are the days where you'll get a long winded post highlighting every autistic detail about what's wrong about x.
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>>388741287
Are you actually saying that being "generic" is fine?

what the fuck happened to this place
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>>388740654
>Willo
>Cute

On what fucking planet
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>>388742082
What I'm saying is "generic" is really not a specified argument. What you're asking for is for new games to be completely different in every way possible than the others simply to not be generic. Wrong thing with that thinking is abandoning good ideas that people like.

Is Barik a "generic" angry dwarf? Yes. Is he likeable and enjoyable to play? Yes. Most people who use that word usually didn't even play the game they're criticizing for more than a few hours at most.
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>>388715527
Hello Hi-Rez. Still pretending to be relevant?
>>
The thing about generic is that it's possible to be generic but interesting, just as it's possible to be unique and boring as fuck.

Overwatch has unique designs, but the characters themselves are incredibly dull.
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I don't like Overwatch or its barebones meta.
Paladins is just more fun
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>>388742616
so play a game that does both unique designs and being an interesting game, problem solved.
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>>388743509
>w10
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>>388743741
they dropped the exclusivity a long time ago buddy.

>tfw this game has the infinitely cooler owl character than palashits
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>>388718297
There was nothing to kill honestly
The game topped at 3k fucking players man
at least hirez organized that /v/ vs leddit tournament
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>>388744439
>general is so dead he has to cry in /v/
Sad.
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>>388717431
>>388717578
>hi-rez apologists on /v/

how
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>>388745286
Shills, duh.
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>>388745286
So you're saying hirez should've kept Tribes going even though they would have to close the company, just so people like you wouldn't whine? Even though you still whine when they brought the game back (and you're not playing it)?

Uh huh.

>>388744439
That's the only good design in the entire game.
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>>388745029
>/palg/ so desperate to not be overshadowed by OW they have to spam these threads every day
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>>388745413
>shilling a free game
>>
Gigantic shills trying to derail thread.
Pathetic

go tend to your 1k playerbase. kek
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>>388745492
Paladins shills don't have any authority on what a good design is.
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>>388744439
>they dropped the exclusivity a long time ago buddy.
Thanks to their marketing Gigantic has Windows10 exclusive written all over it. You can't fix that later on.
>>
it's free, and I've put close to 30 hours into it. don't know what more I could ask for.
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>>388745760
>Paladins shills

I don't even play it, you fucking retard. Make more baseless assumptions, you retarded shit.
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>>388745760
That blunderbuss alone is more than enough for me.
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>>388743509
>w10
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>>388744439
>they dropped the exclusivity a long time ago buddy.
Honestly? I lost all the interest I had in this game the moment I saw "w10 exclusive" so I never heard about them dropping it. They fucked up from the start.
>>
I played a bunch of paladins when my friends wanted to try it, and it just left a sour taste in my mouth. The balance is pretty awful, the maps are forgettable, and development decisions have been consistently atrocious with respect to changing what currency is for what, changing the cards and locking the best ones behind lots of grinding or microtransactions, balancing characters depending on what the ceo likes to play and nerfing anything that annoys him, etc.

It's also true about the work environment sucking isn't it?

And no, I don't really prefer Gigantic or OW, nothing in this genre seems good at all anymore. Kind of wish SMNC wsn't ruined in much the same way.
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>>388746459
>locking the best ones behind lots of grinding or microtransactions
You mean legendaries? I never had a problem with that and I still sit on 100k essence
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>>388746707
How high were your hours before the change, though?

For me being relatively new but still having EXACTLY what cards I wanted on everyone I played, I was suddenly restricted to one optimal kit and a bunch of garbage- and I heard a lot of people with the same sentiments.
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>>388746934
Around 70 I think, I was around lvl30 before they introduced them and I had way more than enough essence to get what I needed.

Sure, many people had problems with it and I still think the essence thing is retarded, but I never had a problem with it.
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>>388746459
>balancing characters depending on what the ceo likes to play and nerfing anything that annoys him
>the reason this game is more balance because they carter to one person instead of everyone
Kek
>>
>>>/vg/
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>>388715527
it wouldnt exist if overwatch didnt
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>>388747228
But tf2 exists
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>>388747129
>>the reason this game is more balance...

But it isn't? There are useless characters, and considerably op characters- directly in line with Goren's taste.
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>>388747336
thats an overwatch clone and you know it, gaben time traveled
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>>388715527
>Would Paladins have been a big success if Overwatch didn't exist?
It would've still been getting developed, so probably since all of its competition would be shit like Battleborn and Lawlbreakers.

It definitely got put on a pedastool thanks to all of the epin meme comparison bullshit between Paladins and Overwatch. I find it funny how Paladins is the only game that has survived after being called an Overwatch ripoff while most of the other games died.
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>>388747821
the game survived because it's coasting off the memebucks they make off of Smite.
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>>388715605
I would love a PUBG clone with some quality a less realistic art-style and more maps. OR better yet, Tribes Deathmatch, a PUBG sort of deal with tribes speed, large scale maps, 100 players, and VGS chat,
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>>388727241
because that would be offensive and people would objectivy the female character... like that wouldnt have been obvious <_<
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>>388748064
>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW playing a game by the same people that made this

Something something neo-/v/
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why do people still pretend paladins copied overwatch when it was proven that overwatch copied hi-rez
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>>388715527
Never. Hi-rez is the fucking master of making great games and then abandoning them.
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>>388749046
You should google that and listen to the voice lines, make sure there is no rope or harmful objects nearby though.
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>>388747228
you do know Paladins has been in development since like way before OW released right?
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>>388749117
>>388749662
>overwatch revealed late 2014
>paladins revealed summer 2015
The cards are stacked against you palashills
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>>388738631
>you cant tell whos using which skill
you can. Sound cues, animations and voice lines make it obvious.
>aim and gun feel is always off
Every champion feels different, maybe you should try a different one.
>fucking mounts and cards
the mounts only exist after respawning. Why even bring this up? Also god forbid some complexity by adding customization via cards.
Maybe you should keep playing Call of Duty, jimmy.
>characters locked behind paywalls
Because Gold is the premium currency of the game, amirite?
>damage is either too low or too high
Only the case for Strix, everyone else needs some tweaks and they are good to go.
>all those ripoffs
I agree, whoever decided to add humans to the game should appologize to God.
>everyone looks like theyre from a dreamworks movie
subjective.

maybe you should try some legit complains like
>some animations/taunts look realy weird/stiff
>matchmaking against pre-made shitters will ruin your day
>some characters need some changes, because they require way to much skill to be even competetive with the more low-skill champions (Maeve vs Lex/Zhin, for example)

(You) tried
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>>388741560
you should stop

talking like this.

makes you look like a tool

fucking iPhone faggot
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everything in this game but the waifus are ugly as fuck
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>>388749117
Why do people pretend to care about what game copied what when almost nothing in games is original or revolutionary anymore? The games might be different in terms of mechanics taken from other games or a combination of moves that make a character, but 90% of the shit isn't original anymore in any game.
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>>388729432
Obviously? If you were a business wouldn't you do the same knowing that your competition is clearly going to be a big deal with the likes of Blizzard up your ass? These companies give and take all the time. What they did right was keeping Paladins competitive while Overwatch is for casuals
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>>388749876
Honestly I'm not sure if either one is really a copy, there was a huge void in this style of game.

Like for sure you can say they influenced eachother during development and patches but I doubt someone did some crazy shit like infiltrating blizz / hirez HQ to steal design notes.

Like none of the characters are really unique or new? They're all tropes that have been done before + a setting-specific paintwash that's either [hot girl / furshit] or [hotgirl / minority] depending on the game.
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>>388715527
It's based on TFT, so you're saying this garbage is better than TFT2?
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>>388749876
https://www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/53qusf/a_brief_history_of_paladins_as_response_to/
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>>388750254
>reddit
>believing what comes out of a Hi-Rez mouth

How about you fuck off you literal shill
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>>388750392
>literal proof
>shuts eyes and scream
never played paladins in my life and dont intend to
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>>388750392
Global agenda exists
And so does everything else they talk about
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>>388749117
because ecelebs like Dunkey made videos about the game, calling it an overwatch clone.
And you cant tell me that there aren't some dunkey fans in this very thread who still shit on Paladins just because of that video.

Dunkey a shit. Dude has a massive fanbase, complains about video journalists but fails to realize that his opinions move people.
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>>388750495
>>388750501
>>388750254

Too bad that about all those closed alpha testers talking about how the entire game was changed mid development after Overwatch came out ;)

Oh and how it was a barebones Overwatch clone in the beta with "payload" maps that looked like they were put together in 5 minutes lmao
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>>388750495
Not him but Hi-rez is one of the scummiest companies around and has killed countless numbers of their own games to shill their own rip-off garbage. Nothing they say is proof.
Educate yourself and then remove yourself from this website, please and thank you.
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>>388750784
>>388750812
>video proof of a game that released 7 years ago doesnt count
this isnt hearsay we are talking about. physical proof exists.
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>>388750710
>Dude has a massive fanbase, complains about video journalists but fails to realize that his opinions move people.
as signified by all the "ironic" knack shilling
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I hate how everyone classifies class-based shooters as being the same genre. Paladins is closer to TF2 than it is to Overwatch. That being said, I think each of the games are fun. Paladins is really cool, the only thing I hate about the game is absolutely useless in-game item/upgrade system. Either give me actual items or just fuck off, there's no point in me buying 2% faster reload speed. It's not a chore, it's just a waste of time. It doesn't feel good.
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>>388750254
Man what the fuck did Overwatch do to turn every other game into a self-conscious blubbering mess?
The only other similar "hero-shooter" game that hasn't done this yet is Gigantic; every other game has shot itself in the foot trying to justify their existence. It's getting really pathetic to see all the time.
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This mechanic made Paladins better than Overwatch for me desu.

It's when you jump while near an object and facing it to jump higher.
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>investing your time in a hi-rez product
they kill off their games in 2-3 year cycles and jump on the next genre thats popular that year
there isn't a single game they haven't done this with
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>>388751263
overwatch is the new halo or cod. remember how kids growing up made the meme that "halo was the first fps" and how everything was a cod clone? that is happening with overwatch because the casual fanbase is uneducated about video games and everything blizzard does targets the casual demographic so thats who their fanbase is. its where the money is.
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>>388751263
Because Blizzdrones have been attacking every shooter in mass ever since Overwatch came out. They spam devs, youtube videos, reviews, everything with "overwatch clone lel."

Gigantic didn't go through this because it was announced before OW and has barely gotten any fucking notice. You still see some Blizzdrone autists on their videos though.
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>>388751375
D R O G O Z
O U T P L A Y E D
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>>388751375
Holy fuck can't you afford a proper aimbot, this is painful to watch jesus fuck
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>>388738615
That's different and distinct? Looks like a generic mmo mob
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>>388715527
They are both objectively bad videogames made by developers who have absolutely no idea of what they are doing.
Gameplay in both sucks, which is why the pathetic fanbases these turds have only talk about the epic as fuck characters of reddit epicness.
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>>388751449
Smite's been around for longer than that though and 2-3 years is still a pretty long lifespan to be enjoying a game. Some people forget that it's the norm for others to pay $40-$60 for some 8 hour cinematic game.
>pay like 13 bucks for founders pack when it was on sale
>don't have to spend money on anything else unless i wanna buy some chests or skins
>enjoy the game for years before I get bored or it dies

In order of Jewishness, Hi-Rez's model is probably the second best after Dota. There's a reason Awesomenauts and Gigantic copied it.
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>>388751804
>no idea of what they are doing.
hi-rez makes low quality games and shuts them down the very moment they become unprofitable, then repeating the process
blizzard makes low quality games and milks every last ounce of revenue out of it
their games are objectively bad but you've been fucking played if you think they don't know what they're doing
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>>388752012
They don't know, and it shows in their games.
Since they have absolutely no idea of how to make a proper videogame, they just pander to fatass autists and waifufags.
They are cancerous companies who, like many others such as Ubisoft, EA or Kojima, if they were removed from history, the videogame industry would do nothing but improve.
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>>388752012
>and shuts them down the very moment they become unprofitable
most devs do this, especially when they're small companies. blizzard keeps loyal players who will suckle their teets forever, so their games are always profitable.
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>>388751474
>>388751496
I get this, but devs that actively call attention to it come across only as pathetic. You need to keep that fanboy autism in the fanboy bubble where it belongs, they shouldn't be signal boosting that mentality themselves even if they're trying to defend themselves, it just comes off as desperate and unconfident.
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>>388751375
You're gonna post this webm of yours at any given chances arent you.
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>>388734153
>willo
>op
Low damage right click, low health, okay mobility skill. Any hitscan champ will shred willo
>shalin
>cassie
lol Cassie is arguably overpowered and shalin is one of the strongest champs in the game.
>can't carry
I watch videos of people carrying a lot and guess what? Cassie is a popular choice for someone trying to carry.
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>>388752139
Sounds like both companies deserve bankrupcy.
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>>388752127
you're an idiot blinded by rage
they know exactly how to make a proper videogame, that is why their companies are so profitable, it doesn't matter what you think of their games. financial success =/= critical success
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>>388751225
It's true and I agree mostly.
I think the ingame item system is interesting, but I don't know how far they can actually push it without it being too overwhelming. Loadouts should be where a majority of your shit should be decided. However some cards are utterly useless (deft hands, newb trap) or are pretty much mandatory.
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>blizzard has officially killed FPS games to go with their murder of MMO games
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>>388752352
Not rage, I played their games and I know they are simply not good.
World of Warcraft is an MMO, making it automatically trash because it sacrifices absolutely everything, even gameplay, in order to appeal to toasterfags and servers with a lot of people.
Overwatch, like Paladins, they are boring attempts at copying the stale TF2 formula, but since they couldn't think of a single thing to add to the games that wasn't complete garbage, they just went for sex appeal.
And that's it, the rest of their games are just a blur of boring sameness.
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>>388752201
I post my saved webms in every Paladins thread I find. It's always nice when I find a Paladins thread and see that someone else posted one of my webms tho.
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>>388752568
they cant keep getting away with it
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>>388752568
Good.
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>>388726625
Jesus, what the fuck are they doing to my dick!?
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>>388752571
you keep ignoring what im saying
it does not matter if you think their games are not good, they make billions of fucking dollars from them.
a business does not look at a product and think 'how can we make the consumer happy and exceed their expectations'
they think 'how can we minimize operating costs and maximize net revenue'
nobody will cater to your idea of a 'good' game because its not in their interests to
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>>388752809
Appealing to people with the most basic tastes and horny neckbeards who get boners from hip sways?
Is there a more laughable audience than the people who unironically play Paladins and Overwatch?
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>>388751748
Compared to discount Pharah yes, The tiny waddle dragon is different.
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>>388752902
Yeah oldfags who think quake is skill based, phoneposters, cod/bf audience, minecraftfags, league babies, inbreds who think dota 2 requires more skill than league, etc etc etc
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>>388752886
>they make billions of fucking dollars from them.
So?
That doesn't change the fact that they are terrible videogames.
And yes, marketing and sex appeal is much better at attracting blithering idiots to play your turds, such as this retard >>388752809

Doesn't change the fact that the companies deserve to go bankrupt and every single person that works in them deserves to end up working in a kebab shop.
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>>388753057
You repeating "terrible video games" doesn't change the fact that it's an opinion.
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>>388726625
Will this run on my poverty $30 smartphone?
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>>388753238
No, it's a fact, you can't possible defend turds like Paladins or Overwatch, they have no redeemable points.
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>>388753057
if they make billions of dollars, how can they be terrible games? isn't THAT is why they won't be going out of business anytime soon, can't believe I have to explain this to you like a child.
your opinion is not a fact and nobody is going to make your idea of a 'good' game so at this point you might as well just quit this hobby altogether
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>>388753309
Because quality and sales are not tied to each other, as I said, marketing is everything.

>you might as well just quit this hobby altogether
I rather wait and see it die, which is what it deserves.
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>>388753283
Oh a FACT, huh? Please cite your research and academic studies proving that these games are factually terrible.
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>>388753410
>Because quality and sales are not tied to each other

thanks I already said that in this post and thats the exact reason why 'good' games are not dictated by your opinion
>>388752352
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>>388753283
They're fun. $20 for at least 20 hours of fun is a pretty great deal.
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Who else /scared of playing against other people even in casual so you play only against bots/ here?
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>>388753550
Too bad they do not give you 20 hours of fun unless half of your brain is malfunctioning like this guy >>388753592
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>>388753283
>NO! It's just bad!

Geez, those are some pretty compelling arguments. Hopefully once you leave highschool and go to college you'll learn how to make points when having a argument or discussion.
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>>388753592
Other people are worse than bots half the time so you shouldn't have anything to fear
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>>388753645
But they do. Hopefully you'll find other games that grant you hours of fun instead of spending so much time angry online.
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>>388753652
Why would I bother bringing proper arguments to this?
What do I gain from convincing you of this?
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>>388753747
Hopefully those who make bad videogames get another job before they keep ruining their industry with their microtransaction-bait garbage.
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>>388753592
I usually have anxiety in ranked modes because people tend to be assholes because of Dota, but when I did ranked in this game, most people seemed tolerable. I just muted the ones sperging about mastery level or spamming VGS.
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>>388753767
Because nobody is going to take what diarrhea you're spewing seriously when your points are just baseless remarks? BAD! STOP PLAYING!
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>>388753767
>Why would I spend 30 minutes whining on /v/ over literally nothing minority opinions?
>Wait I just did!
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>>388753728
fug I love Lian's design so much. her voice fits her perfectly too. I wish hi-rez had better animators for their videos tho.
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>>388753767
Is this your first day here? Enjoy your stay.
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>>388753880
And what do I gain from that?
If I convince you of this, will those companies go bankrupt?

>>388753930
The question is why would I put any effort into it when i'm not going to gain anything from it?
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>>388753976
This, we all know that /v/ is the place where we all come for serious discussion and where shitposting is frowned upon.
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>>388753856
That's alright anon, I'm sure a fun game for you is right around the corner!
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>>388754030
Then why come in here talking shit about a game if you gain nothing from it? Just to be a little annoying shitposting nigglet?
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>>388754150
To laugh at the blithering idiots who unironically play pieces of shit like Overwatch and Paladins and then try and fail to defend them.
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>>388754030
just remember jeff kaplan makes in a day what you do in a lifetime and the only reason he makes that much is your fault in the first place
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>>388754278
>just remember jeff kaplan makes in a day what you do in a lifetime
What does that have to do with anything I said?

>the only reason he makes that much is your fault in the first place
How, exactly?
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>>388715527
>Always thought about checking out Paladins instead of OW
>Even the shills have to admit it suffers from the same faults
Thanks but no thanks
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>>388754376
>How, exactly?
why would I waste time explaining if I have nothing to gain from it :^)
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>>>/vg/
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>>388754263
Why though? The only thing it shows is that you have too much time in your hands. You're gaining nothing at the end of it and people will continue doing what they're doing. You're not offering anything constructive or convincing anyone.
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>>388741705
Because even the good designs are subpar to the ones in OW. I'm really not sure why you didn't use other examples. Then again, I'm struggling to remember what those were... Ying I guess? And even that's just sex appeal.

OW has it's flaws, but don't be an idiot by claiming the child's toyesque "bomb king" is a good design. "HAHAHA I THROW BOMBS LOOK AT ME HAHAHAHA WORSHIP THE KING" is slipping down the slope of borderlands humor. He's just a random sentient bomb that exists because reasons. I like how his primary fire works, but christ the design is such a letdown.

Makoa is a tortoise. With an uh... anchor and cannon (psst, highrez - turtles belong in the sea, not tortoises) and again, zero lore to speak of. He's just there, a random animal to make the cast more diverse than overwatch. His color scheme is rather dull and uninspired, probably to prompt people into buying some of the sad cosmetics to make him look like something other than "just an anthro tortoise".
His shell shield is pretty cool though, I'll give him that.

But yeah, bottom line is at least use Ying for the lewds or androxus for edgy/"muh cool design". Bomb king and Makoa have literally nothing.
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>>388754526
>You're not offering anything constructive or convincing anyone.
I wouldn't be in /v/ if I wanted to do anything constructive.
And no one here is worthwhile convincing of anything.
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>>388754663
So I'm right, you're just hearing to be nothing more than a little annoying shitposting nigglet. Remember, ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>388754751
Are you implying Paladins vs Overwatch thread #148905598137093 was not going to be about shitposting?
Then again, the discussion correlates with the quality of their games.
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>>388754827
>the discussion correlates with the quality of their games.
This is rarely if ever true and you are very well aware of it. Attempting snark over reality isn't worthwhile.
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>>388754587
>His color scheme is rather dull and uninspired
That describes the vast majority of the rest of the cast too. This stupid thread proves no one actually knows or gives a shit about actual character design.
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>ITT
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>>388754467
So i'm not.
Because I don't play Blizzard's objectively terrible videogames.
Will look forward to the day Paladins and Overwatch get their master servers shut down.
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>>388755161
>ITT
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>>388755267
Will look forward to enjoying Paladins until it dies instead of complaining about it until it dies.
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>>388755161
>>388755352
9gag tier posts for the 9gag tier game. As expected of the same people that made this shit https://youtu.be/x_xeq9l7DNY
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>>388716175
How is it easyer?
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>>388755518
Yeah, gotta keep looking forward to because there's nothing right now aside from garbage.
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>>388755542
what's a 9gag?
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>>388755542
The makoa pic is OC made on /vg/ from a common reaction image on 4chan though.
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>>388749917
smart Zaynposter
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>>388738631
>I just played this game
>doesn't know any of the characters or their skillsets yet
>surprised he can't recognize things he doesn't know

Are you new to video games or fuckin wot.
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Paladins is absolute dogshit compared to OW.

t. person who played Paladins before knowing overwatch even existed, and even then it was way shittier than TF2, because the devs don't understand how to design maps.
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>>388756273
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>>388756364
Wrong picture, because the devs seem to have weak-knees when put next to Overwatch according to >>388750254
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>>388752902
nah mate. If Skye would have long. blonde hair than I would have agreed because thats what every nigger finds sexy. Cute short hair is more of a niche thing, even with tits.
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>>388725731
Yes they are atrocious
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I can't figure out why I love Makoa so much.
I couldn't give a shit about Pudge, Blitzcrank, whatever the HoN guy was called, Roadhog and a trillion other hook guy knock offs, but Makoa somehow just feels fun as fuck to play.
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>>388756364
Nobody has said that.
Both Paladins devs and OW devs hate each other, and the demise of these games can only be a good thing.
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>>388756602
>>388756794
>still autistically screeching about brands
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>>388756647
being the most generic slut possible with the most boring design imaginable is also of a niche taste too?
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>>388756602
Yet ow is starting to copy paladins. Fun.
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>>388756602
According to Prettyhair, in one of his streams (cant remember which one, was a long time ago) he said that Blizzard devs threatend some legal actions. Obviously nothing came from that but I imagine that neither side is happy with the other.

But then again, I would have never heard of Paladins if it werent for the "JUST LE OVER LE WATCH LE CLONE!!1" shitposting.
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>>388757005
>latex suit which emphasis the style of a one-piece swimsuit
>boring
nigga, I fight you
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>>388756602
>weak-knees
They were being shitposted into oblivion on literally any platform. I'm glad they made that post to put Overdunces in their place desu.
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>>388757005
My dick is not bored at all
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>>388756602
>victim gets accused as being the guilty party
>defend themselves
>"lol weak kneed cowards"
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>>388715527
I own TF2, OW, and Paladins founder's pack. I only play TF2 and Paladins now because OW got boring a year ago.

PSA to fellow Paladongs, there's a devstream tomorrow and it's gonna have some "big changes." Source:
https://twitter.com/loki_diego/status/902668031024869376
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>>388757115
I say this as a purveyor of latex suits: Skye is utter dogshit. Any other character from any other game has pulled off that look better than her.
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>>388715527
>Hi-Rez
Of course not
Everything they do is third-rate and cheap looking
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>>388756793
YOU CHALLENGE MAKOA?
That and able to spin is very fun.
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>>388757429
>big changes
YES
MORE EVIE BUFFS
EAT SHIT DROGOZ
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>>388757429
I will believe them when I see it.
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>>388757429
>full dozen champs getting some new art loving....
CHINK PALADINS MOBILE GAME ART COMING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>388757367
No, of course not, everything that even remotely resembles some tits will get you going.
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>>>/vg/
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>>388757429
fuuuuuu there's free gems?
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>>388757823
No, my autistic newfriend.
Elves, especially in skintight bodysuits do.
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>>388757191
>overdunces

>>388757429
>paladongs

Is it a coincidence that the people who play these games talk like numales?
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>>388757909
Oh yeah, elves, having pointy ears changes everything, right?
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>>388758009
No, my autistic newfriend.
Elves, especially in skintight bodysuits do.
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>>388757434
nah
>short hair
>flirtish
>dem emotes
>that suit
i still fite u
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>>388758139
So I am right.
Pathetic.
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>>388745286
>The Shazbowl was 5 years ago
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>>388758009
well arent you a faggot
>this niche thing gets me off!
>UGH simply triggering #pathetic
thats how you sound
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>>3887579>26
>silly names are a numale thing
wrong. going "um" at the start of a sentence and condescendingly making statements in the forms of questions is numale behavior. word play has always been a thing here, hence ___fag, sony-gger, nin-toddlers, etc.
>>
How playable is this on PS4?
>>
>>388758520
meant for >>388757926

>>388758560
As playable as any shooter, meaning not as good as on PC.
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>>388757115
>>388757367
>>388757909
>>388758209
>>388758471
>"We need an assassin chara-"
>"I got it, chick in a latex suit."
>"A purple and black suit...with just black hair? Don't you think this color scheme is a bit boring?"
>"Oh sorry let me add even more purple highlights in her hair"
>"Uh cool sure oh shit wait this is a fantasy ga-"
>"Elf."

hi-rez character design, hope your dick enjoys your half-baked raw "character"
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>>388758778
Will do, thanks
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>>388715527
I want to like it but I'm a social person that likes chatting with teammates and everyone I ran into in Paladins was some third world brazil or asian person so it ruined it for me at least in OW I know im going to be able to communicate with my teammates
>>
>>388715527
Paladins is still pretty big, and you could almost argue the comparison to Overwatch helped it spread further.
>>
>Can't even spam VGTW VGTG to the other team in Paladins

I miss Tribes
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Who else plays as best boy?
PEASANTS
>>
Skins at the chink game
https://imgur.com/a/5adVF
Some are great
>>
>>388717695
>paying 60$ for a multiplayer-only game that has less content than it's F2P competitor
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>>388758970
here let me actually get you started

>random 5-second google image search render of "elf in latex suit" already has a more interesting design and color scheme than Skye
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>>388759213
>those Androxus skins
Fuck I want them. I'll take those over the simple cape recolors anyday.
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>>388759213
Pic and pirate Viktor are a must in Paladins
>>
@388759306
>that
>more interesting

>long, braided hair
>nigger lips
>the skin-tight latex aspect of her suit is overshadowed by the generic TRON-design
Im sure if you put up a poll with Skye vs this shit, 80-90% would vote for Skye.
clearly you are a man who knows nothing and is just fishing for (You)'s. So I wont give you any
>>
>>388759213
Wow Makoa looks like total ass
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>>388759213
>https://imgur.com/a/5adVF

a fucking mobile game has better skins than the pc version. Where did it all go wrong?
>>
>>388759213
>That Harley Quinn Suicide Squad skin for Evie

I need it
>>
>>388759713
Why the fuck would they remove his ear?
>>
>>388759873
chinks are the kings of the android app market. They know what sells and what doesn't

Still, Makoa looks like shit.
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>>388760083
Or his nostrils.
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>>388759873
The proof is all over this thread; Hi-Rez can't design characters worth shit. It's only natural the second those characters are handed over to someone else they can actually do something to those horrible foundations.
>>
>>388759306
>brown girl in a latex suit with tron lights and clashing colors
>better or interesting
>>
>>388760360
There's skins like that though in the actual game.
>>
>>388760360
Didnt holt say that they're made inhouse like twice?
>>
>>388760360
to be fair, this makes Barik look even more generic. Not sure why, but I somehow feel like I've seen this exact look before
>>
>>388759213
>Viktor has a cigar

I need this
>>
>>388761078
>turning a stoic soldier into a deranged, drugged gunman
I don't want this.
>>
>>388760419
Not taking risks with colors is probably one of the biggest hurdles on why most games these days have such shit character design. Everyone's scared to stretch these tropes too far, which is exactly why Hi-Rez is so fucking limp; nothing screams "scared to have an imagination" like the purple and black elf in a latex suit. There's no stylization at all even though they 'want' a stylized game.
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