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>its being delayed to fix the bugs, not for Denuvo!!
>lol @ console cucks beta testing it for us!!

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>>388703945
indeed, console is the true master race :^)

Why didn't they just make the game 50gb+ to prevent piracy

I don't get the problem with Denuvo unless you're a piratefag.

>>388704074
literally everyone is complaining about it right now because they can't play unless they have a good internet connection. Check the twitter

>>388704074
Because it's an always online version specifically, and like all versions of denuvo, does rechecks every time you change your hardware, and hardware changes happen all the time.

Not to mention it is totally ineffective, even in the "it's supposed to delay piracy" shill nonsense, and has been for months, to the point where there are license generators for it.
It only fucks over legitimate consumers, even if it's slightly.
And of course it's reputation is dogshite, probably because it's primarily funded by EA.

So does no one at Valve check for this shit? It wasn't until after release that they added the third-party DRM message to the game's page.

>>388704157
Literally??

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>>388703054

This is all your fault you know

You did nothing but avatar fag every thread about how much you were going to pirate it, and look at what you've got us.

>>388704372
lit·er·al·ly
ˈlidərəlē,ˈlitrəlē/
adverb
in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
"the driver took it literally when asked to go straight across the traffic circle"
synonyms: exactly, precisely, actually, really, truly; More
informal
used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true.
"I have received literally thousands of letters"

refer to the above, particularly the informal section

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>2 days later
>Sonic.Mania - CPY
I'll wait. Could've had my money today, Sega. Reflect on that.

What? Are you telling me it didn't need """"optimizations""""??? Lmfao

>>388703054
>was going to buy it
>online-only DRM
waiting for the crack

>>388704464
or he could just overcome his autism for a moment and understand the concept of hyperbole in informal communication

>>388704526
Optimized to rape your ssd and consumer good will as hard as possible

>>388704074
>>388704274
Even aside from that, the people that make Denuvo are still the same people that made Securom, THE most intrusive piece of shit DRM to ever exist. Why the fuck would you ever trust those people to do anything to your computer? No, DRM is only ever harmful and everyone pirates. EVERYONE, the entire computer industry is BASED on piracy. No one pays for software if they can manage it.

Only the ignorant masses let people they don't know dictate what they can and can't do and that's why they laugh at you behind your back.

>>388703054
I'm not here to shill for denuvo or whatever but how much of this is actually an issue? The only people who should be downloading it are people who game on pc through steam anyway, if you don't have a regular connection then you shouldn't even be gaming on pc anyway, just pick up a physical edition.

>>388704157
>they can't play unless they have a good internet connection.
if your internet is good enough to shitpost on 4chan, it's good enough to play sonic

>>388704991
>just pick up a physical edition

There is none, this is a digital game only. Not everyone in the world has stable internet, but they have just enough internet to be able to download the game, especially since it's not even that large.

But for some inane reason, the PC version needed DRM, when the game was always going to sell more on console, since that's where the major market share of Sonic is. They wasted money on a Denuvo license for a whole lot of nothing sales even before this.

>>388703054
Denuvo has a bigger filesize than the game itself.

>>388704464
literally is used to clarify something normally expressed figuratively
I have a shit job is not a good description that somebody works in a sewerage plant without using literally
Now you too can know the cancer of people using it incorrectly

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MODERN SONIC WINS BAYBEE

SOMEONE REVERSE THIS IMAGE

It's funny how hard people were in denial about the delay being about piracy prevention.
I guess a lot of people didn't think sega would do something that retarded. Why they would doubt that is beyond me.

>>388705175
Oh my bad, thought console's got physical.

>>388703054
The PC fuckers deserve it. You don't need to denuvo everything on consoles since people with Consoles are communists Who go through a series of mental gymnatisic to justify pirating the shit out of everything because I NEED MORE GAMES THAT ILL NEVER EVEN PLAY OR REMEBER. FUCK THE ANTI CONSUMERISTS PIGSOE.

>>388705769

What's funnier is the morons on Sonic Retro kept denying that Taxman's tweet had anything to do with the delay

And they're still denying it.

>PCpiratefag making this thread yet again

autism

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so uh...they'll remove the denuvo right?
that steam page post wasn't just damage control, right?
right guys?

>>388704064
Fucking what?
Size of a game does not matter on if it will be pirated or not, unless you're assuming that because the majority of pirates are third world shitholes that there would be data caps. But even then that wouldn't stop them.

>>388703054
>basic google search image for OP
how to tell the thread is low effort bait

>>388704274
>hardware changes happen all the time
Are you one of those poorfags who doesn't know how to properly save so you end up buying a piece of shit gpu, but end up replacing it every 3 months with one that cost $20 more, because ya know anon that's fucking retarded as fuck.

No physical copy, no buy

>>388704157
>literally everyone
>it's less than a hundred people

>>388706119
It was a thing companies were doing for a while where they wouldn't compress anything so the game was too big to be worth pirating.
Jokes on them though since pirates just compressed everything and got access to a game with half the size.
I believe one of the newer wolfensteins was an example of this, but don't quote me on that.

>>388704074
>I don't get the problem with Denuvo unless you're a piratefag.

Exactly.

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>>388703054
>mfw

>>388706476
Not exactly, because denuvo now gets cracked in 1-3 days.
It doesn't cause piratefags problems.

>>388706528
Explain how it causes paying customers problems?

>>388703994
>because a dev makes a shitty port consoles are better

kys desu senpai

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I just wanted modding support.

>>388706614
This particular version is specifically always online, meaning if a connection interruption, or slight break happens, it stops you from playing.
This is apparently unintentional.
There is performance overhead, especially around saving/loading, when denuvo does shit mostly, even if it is slight it is noticeable.
Of course since denuvo is a VM, it also has overall performance overhead, as is the nature of any VM.

>>388706614
It bloats filesize and wastes system resources.
Furthermore it prevents paying customers from having control over the game they payed for and does not allow for third party modifications.
You are at the whims of Denuvo's servers as to whether or not the game will even boot up. Even if your internet is perfect their's won't always be.

>>388706614
If their internet connection has a problem, they can't play their game?
They can't freely move their game around to different computers?

when is the 2d shadow game gonna come out

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>>388704157
>>388704274
At least they're supposedly trying to fix the online-only thing.
https://steamcommunity.com/games/584400/announcements/detail/1448326045461380318

>>388705997
All we can do is hope since Taxman, Stealth & Aaron are telling people where to go lodge their complaint about it on Sega's site.

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>>388703054
>hahahhahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Why is that funny? What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>388706786
This is reasonable to be pissed about, but it's unintentional so either it's going to be fixed or removed or dropped a version.
>>388706792
Denuvo does not prevent mods it is a check system not an anti tamper to the exe. >>388706798
You can freely move your game, what are you retarded? It checks for changes in hardware do you change your hardware more than 5 times a day, if you do consider buying something that last longer than 4 hours.

Out of all three of you though only >>388706786
didn't sound like a total retard.

PS4 Bros. Can I hear back from you guys? I keep getting notifcations that the game will shit off in 15 mins because of the relicesnig thing. What's up with that?

>>388707025
Denuvo is a cancer on video games and if you don't hate it on principle you should consider turning in your human being card.

>>388707025
>unironically defending denuvo malware
Keep sucking the corperate cock kiddo. Maybe they'll start paying you if you do a good enough job.

So where is the crack?

>>388707124
>>388707176
>It's a /v/ pretends to care about consumer rights episode.

>>388707253
The only reason you wouldn't care about being treated well as a consumer is if you weren't one.
So you're either a pirate or someone who works for SEGA/Denuvo.
Which is it?

>>388707231
Give it a day, chances are the faggots haven't even touched it.

>>388707124
>>388707176
I'm not defending denuvo, but I am calling retards out on their bullshit. Dindu nuffin piracy fags are mostly from the third world, they are hyping up scare tactics in order to bring people to their side. That kind of bullshit deserves to be called out as denuvo doesn't do every bit of bullshit people claim it to. It's all scare tactics smoke and mirrors, you retards deserve as much hate as denuvo does.

>>388707389
Considering denuvo is by securom, and funded primarily by EA, I'd say they have every right to fearmonger.

Give me the basic gestalt, /v/.

Will we still be able to data mine this, or does getting Denuvo'D completely prevent this from happening now?

>>388707318
Scare tactics don't deserve praise, facts do. And the facts are denuvo doesn't actually stop modding or piracy for that matter. It doesn't destroy your ssd. It doesn't cause cancer. Pirate fags are just mad they have to wait two extra weeks. Stop being salty cunts that spread misinformation in order to scare people into hating anti piracy measures. If you want to actually make people side with you state facts that have grounds to stand on. Not ooga booga scary boogeyman delete your system 32 faggotry.

>>388707494
The last game to have denuvo got cracked in a week.
It will probably take even less time for mania since it is so small.

>>388707513
>Pirate fags are just mad they have to wait two extra weeks.
*a day or two
You say you want facts, the facts are that denuvo is being raped from all directions by multiple groups, one of which may be VMprotect performing corporate sabotage.

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>>388706915
>Christian

Holy shit he finally achieved his dream.

Do NOT buy Mania, you fucking retards. Pirate it if you have any sort of respect for yourself. It's a 3 hour long game at most with 85% of shit we've already seen before. You're braindead if you buy it.

>>388707513
It doesn't stop piracy, but it does burn out SSDs and hog resources like a motherfucker.
I don't want this malware on my computer.

>>388707489
Not with misinformation and muh day one piracy. Who gives a shit if you were to stupid to follow the rules of capitalism dictating what you do with currency. Don't bitch about it. Buy the game or wait. You got choices. Don't try to scare people into not buying a game because muh piracy.

>>388707647
They lied about the game having denuvo until 4 hours after it was released.
Nobody fucking knew it had denuvo until they already bought it and you can't refund the game if you bought it third party.

>>388707647
Scaring people into not buying a game because of association with the literal devils of gaming is fine though.

>there are people unironically defending denuvo in this very thread
/v/ is dead. Just nuke it from orbit at this point.

>>388704475
You were never going to buy it to begin with.

>>388707624
You know what else burns out SSDs, video games. Constant updates, constant read and write cycles that's why they are primarily used for OS files and not fucking steam you fucking mongoloids.

Ya know when your parents told you we're not getting you a new one if you can't take care of this one. That's your fucking SSD you can't take care of it nor how to use it properly and therefore blame when your dumbshit ass decides to constantly put it under pressure when it's not the same as an HDD. So you pay for it.

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>people on steamforums defending denuvo always have weeb names and avatars

what did they mean by this?

>>388707253
>It's a /v/ argues against consumer rights and defends the most backwards ass bullshit nonsense for the sake of shitposting episode.

>>388707624
The burning out ssds thing was apparently fixed at some point.
I say apparently because people who say "denuvo is supposed to delay piracy" exist, and they're obvious shills - it's supposed to stop it, why else would any money go to it?
Unfortunately they're idiots, and don't realize the folly in trying to make unbeatable or unbreakable anythings.
If something claims to be insurmountable, someone, somewhere, will try to take it on and win.
But, denuvo doesn't make money off of reality but promises and legalspeak.

The hogging resources thing is definitely true, of course, as it's a VM.

>>388707810
>I'll see you soon
WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS

So why exactly does denuvo still exist?
It doesn't stop piracy, has an absolutely abhorrent reputation, pisses off paying customers, makes games run like shit, and has a price tag of $100,000.
Why would you ever put it in your game?

>>388707989
Movie industry is involved, and EA.
Their only goal is stopping pirates, no matter how much money they waste nonsensically.

>>388707963
Source? No really I'd love to see something showing it won't break SSDs anymore. I'd feel a lot safer seeing that.

>>388707513
>Stop being salty cunts that spread misinformation in order to scare people into hating anti piracy measures
This is highly ironic considering you faggots constantly spread disinfo and FUD about cracked releases like claiming they have bitcoin miners and complaints against always online DRM aren't legitimate.

Antipirate fags are the saltiest, most petty petulant cunts on this entire board. They don't give a flying FUCK about facts, not that they have any to stand on. Just ooga booga scary lost sales boogeyman conjecture and piracy=stealing faggotry.

>>388707647
>Don't try to scare people into not buying a game because muh piracy.

It's an always online single player game you fucking chode.

>>388708064
I don't have one, sorry, it was just another anon.
Hence the apparently.
According to him, it was an issue in some of their earlier builds but they toned down or optimized what was causing the problem, which was actually a very serious and valid concern, now being spread as misinfo to make people who dislike denuvo look stupid.

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>>388708102

>>388707786
I already own the console version. Eat shit.

>>388708165
I'll keep it in mind then. Thank you for the heads up.

>>388708048
It doesn't actually stop pirates though.
That's the problem, if it worked I'd understand but at this point it lasts like a week.

>>388707758
Not just Denuvo, /v/ unironically defends always online DRM, mobile gatcha-style p2w microransactions, paid mods, day 1 on disc "DLC", and basically game publishers should have all the rights and you the consumer should have none.

/v/ is a fucking tumor. Glad these shitheads are getting dunked on by /pol/ and eceleb fags.

>>388708205
>get btfo
>resort to u mad image memes

Sasuga. Thanks for conceding.

>>388708286
Nothing that has ever been done has stopped pirates, they've hurt them occasionally, but never stopped them.
Besides windows10 DRM, which to this day I'm fairly certain has not been cracked.
Or maybe no one cares enough to try.
How many times has the pirate bay been shut down only to pop up again?
They don't care that it's futile, it's probably a matter of pride at this point, they've been humiliated for years.

>>388707810
Yes, no physical, no buy.

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>>388708205

>>388708410
>super assmad
>"Haha... btfo!"

>>388704157

My isp has been throttling me for months because we don't got their cable package, I haven't had a issue with any Denuvo game about my internet connection not being good enough and at times my internet is moving at dial up speeds.

I was unaware of this and bought the game. As a legit customer I hope they pirate this shit onto the ground. I always do whenever I buy a game and this happens, I don't give a shit if I bought the game.

Get to it pirate scum.

Damn, I am loving this. Anyone else get off to blueballed poorfag PCbros whining over having to pay for good games?

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https://youtu.be/D4WdHwukAt4
>playing games on pc

So since pirates get to play the game without DRM and without paying for it why would anyone ever buy the game on PC?

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>>388706934
I feel you. Im sick of these shitty OP bait thread that always start the same way.

>>388708783
>PCkeks filters to PCbros
Is this new?

>>388708787
imagine being this guy and making this video.

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>>388708980
okay I'm imagining it
now what

>>388709076
all im saying is you have to be mentally ill to make this kind of shit because of some console war shit.

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>>388709313
>making a short funny video constitutes mental illness
can I see your credentials doctor?

How come only on /v/ is this the type of shit about Denuvo even a topic of importance. Is it just not something the mainstream media picks up on and the rest of th community doesn't feel like talking about it?

Because I have no fucking idea about who to believe. Is Denuvo really the blame for everything /v/ claims it does? I can't tell what's truly factual and what's exaggeration or just plain lies

>>388709424
its the acting this smug over video game exclusive attitude that bothers me.

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>preorder sonic mania
>get ass ravaged by the delay, want to refund but can't because i bought the game on bundlestars
>get over it and wait for release
>game comes out, fucking denuvo
>become absolutely incensed, even leave an angry review about it on steam
>calm down and decide to play the stupid game because i'm stuck with it anyways
>play through it in one sitting
>all of my anger melts away, it completely lived up to the hype and is one of the best games I have ever played
>shamefully delete my angry review and stop caring about the denuvo situation
the game is just that good, i simply cannot stay mad about it

>>388709686
>doesn't care about denuvo
>cant replay his game offline
Dumb cuck.

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>>388709651
you sound like a bootyflustered pcbro buddy

>>388709775
>using the word cuck unironically
When will this meme end

>>388704074
The game can't be modded. The game can't be played offline. The game performs worse, this game should be toaster friendly but I highly doubt it is, and Denuvo is why.

>>388707576
No, not that Christian.

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>Steam refuses refunds if you've had the game for 14 days
>delay the game for 14 days
>use that time to implement DRM
>don't mention said DRM until AFTER the game is released
>people can't get refunds because they've had the game for 14 days

>>388709917
Sure man.
I just think that people who adds to this console war shit are pretty nutty.

CONFIRMED
FLOP

>>388710159
Fortunately that's not how it works. People can still get refunds if they preordered. However if you used Sega's emulator program for over 2 hours it counts as if you were playing sonic mania for those 2 hours since they handed out a copy of sonic 1 after the delay.
Those people can't get a refund.

>>388710159
I actually bought the game on the 11th, requested a refund today, and got a refund within a few hours. For anyone wondering, I said "reason not listed" and put, "dishonest business practices" as my reason.

>>388709775
i mean it sucks anon but if all i have is a lemon i might as well suck on it for a bit
odds are they're going to at least fix the always online bullshit since so many people are assmad about it like i was earlier and if what i've heard about these things is true then they'll probably eventually remove it entirely
hell, whether they do or not i'll probably end up downloading the cracked version that'll be out in the next few days as a backup

>>388705075
That is blatently untrue. I could shitpost on 56k dialup over a noisy analogue phone line if I wanted to. I could not play an always online single player game with one. Or if I used mobile internet. Even DSL would be asking for trouble

I can play it just fine but most of my country probably can't play this without worry that it could switch off at any time. Most of your country too, Burgerman. It's not all big cities with fibre-optic internet out there.

>>388708787
kek

>>388706237
>he doesnt buy each next gen GPU or CPU
poorfag attempting to call others poorfags? you need to go back

>>388706348
you mean more people bought pc sonic?

>>388709686
I'll leave a positive review for the game itself but I'll also write about my disappointment for the delay and make it clear this is the last SEGA game I'll buy.

>>388709686
The game is amazing but that doesn't make the release any less disgusting. You should still be very angry. To use a food analogy, because I know you guys love those, you ordered a delicious pizza but the guy who prepared it had the flu. You were immediately satisfied but you are now infected and will suffer greatly.

>>388710839
shut the fuck up you fucking redditor

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>>388711105
the man is 100% right. what the fuck is your problem.

>>388708570
>get btfo
>u m-mad

please keep going.

>>388711150
Not him

But IS he?

With catching the flu, how could you possibly realize the pizza baker was the one that got you infected? Is the flu nearly as debilitating as you guys describe Denuvo as? Not to mention the flu is tempaory and that's not even considering if you have a stronger immune system and you don't even catch anything.

I'm clueless as fuck about Denuvo but i don't think this analogy works Robbie Sempai.

>>388703054
Why the fuck would you put Denuvo on a 20 bux game?

>>388711359
>I'm clueless as fuck about Denuvo
Then shut the fuck up and lurk moar

It's probably good to note that Christian Whitehead, Stealth, and even Andrew Webber (Sega PR guy) are quite obviously not happy about the DRM situation. In fact, Andrew Webber made a tweet specifically asking people to voice their concerns over the DRM using the following link.

https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-us/requests/new

I encourage all of you to send your concerns to Sega of Europe (who is apparently the branch of Sega that decided to implement the DRM from what I can tell) using that link. As Andrew Weber said, let your voices be heard.

>>388711524
Forgot to link the tweet.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RubyEclipse/status/902608083200819200

Delay's excusable for bug killing reasons (there's actually a bunch of bugs in every version, ranging from music cutting out to the classic falling through the floors)
Denuvo's par for the course, not something that will affect their target audience at all.
The fucked up controller support is pretty shit, but not the end of the world.

The always online shit has me CONVINCED that Izuka just couldn't stand Mania being better than forces.

>>388711359
maybe the analogy is pretty shit, but I think you get the idea that even if the game is good, the way it was released is pretty scummy.

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Torrent up when?

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>We at Sega are aware of the strong feelings among our fans regarding DRM on our PC titles
>As a result, we will be releasing Sonic Forces without Denuvo

>>388711487
quit being edgy first

>>388711524
It makes me double mad knowing the devs themselves hate the situation but you still see fuckheads and shills defending this.

>>388704074
>buy game
>go somewhere that steam is internet blocked aka university or work
>can't play game

>>388711639
the pizza was aggressive

>>388703945

>buy literal DRM box
>HAHA PCFATS UR GAME HAS SOME LINES OF DRM ON IT HAHA

Like pottery

Reminder that if you are actually pissed off about this to send feedback through the appropriate channels.

https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-us/requests/new

>>388711580
>Delay's excusable for bug killing reasons
I'd be ok if that turned out true.
Unfortunately, in these weeks of delay, not only the bugs haven't been fixed but they also added more, like controller issues or not translated menus.
The two weeks were exclusively used to add Denuvo. They could have added it before release but no, they had to delay the fucking game.

>>388711707
DOnt joke about this please.

>>388706614
I use Linux and play games offline. Two reasons for which I cannot enjoy this game. However, if I were to acquire a pirated version, I would be able to enjoy this game - but I won't.

>>388708221
i believe you.jpg

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lol?

>>388711881
>can play my games offline
>can lend, trade or sell my games
>can't have my games revoked for disagreeing with a nu-male moderator
>B-BUT IT'S WORSE THAN MY HIGHLY RESTRICTIVE DRM CAUSE I SAID SO

>>388712101
>can't have my games revoked for disagreeing with a nu-male moderator
You can have your whole console revoked from online.

>>388707963
>I say apparently because people who say "denuvo is supposed to delay piracy" exist, and they're obvious shills - it's supposed to stop it, why else would any money go to it?

Because games earn the most on their first weeks of release. It's literally meant to protect the game during the period of highest hype, what happens after that has a much lower impact anyway. Though I heard they still promise "hundreds of days" of protection when recently it's been more like two weeks.

>>388712206
It's funded by the movie industry and EA.
They don't care about the period of highest hype or profit.
They have wasted far too much money on their quest to end piracy then they would ever make back if they beat it.
They care about stopping pirates.
>heard they still promise "hundreds of days" of protection
I can imagine, it's scum taking advantage of scum, that's how this business has always been.

>>388712303
>It's funded by the movie industry and EA.
Two groups which spend an absolutely insane amount of money on the production of their content. Makes sense.

>They care about stopping pirates.
I think most publishers already realize that pirates are not stoppable. The prevention primarily revolves around (a) delaying the inevitable and (b) trying to scare the ones who keep trying. But I don't think anyone still thinks that piracy can literally be stopped, once and for all. Every DRM is a timebomb, if the content is valuable enough, someone somewhere will eventually crack it.

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Stealth is not happy with sega's statement on the matter at all

>>388712303
Ironically, Denuvo was born from a branch of Sony.

>>388711908
>They could have added it before release but no, they had to delay the fucking game.
Do you see what's going on right now? No fucking way Sega would've wanted this happening during the initial release. Someone at Sega had the foresight to say, "hey wait a minute,if a youtuber/streamer with a billion subscribers chooses the PC version over a console version, they might point out the intrusive DRM and tell their followers to avoid it! We can't allow this!" So instead of just losing sales/having refunds requested on one platform, they might've had to deal with it across all platforms.

>>388712689
This has already been posted a lot, we get it, we aren't angry with the devs but with the publisher.

>>388712737
Ah yes, Sony. The same people who decided to make AACS on pressed Blu-Ray discs mandatory, so you literally cannot press a DRM-free Blu-Ray disc which will work on licensed players.

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>>388710038
>>388704157
>>388704274
>>388703945


>this game should be toaster friendly but I highly doubt it is, and Denuvo is why.
>Should be
>Doubt it
>BUT DENUVO IS WHY THOSE THINGS HAPPENED EVEN DOE IM NOT SURE THEY DID

Trying real hard. Most AAA games I've owned in the past 2 years have had denuvo, I haven't had any issues with it. One thing I'm glad for is that denuvo gives publishers the possibility to commit more to PC the one thing I care about since I care about playing video games and I'm actually a paying customer.

btw I was one of those few(See sales numbers) fags that bought generations, sega's AS racing transformed on their steam release

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>>388712101
>>388712137

You forgot the best part:

>Have to pay my console maker to use my own internet

Like pottery

>>388712779
The delay did more harm than good though.
In your case, people that don't care about Denuvo would have bought the game without problems.
In the current case, we have people pissed for Denuvo, people pissed for a delay that didn't fix jack shit and people pissed for both reasons.
They basically shot themselves in the foot.

>>388707786
>You were never going to buy it to begin with.

No, because it's a bad Sonic CD sequel with a shitload of old levels thrown in because sonic fans have no creativity and live in the past.

But really it's the boss fights that put me down from the game. Everyone one has a different gimmick, they are not actually "fights" per se.

>>388712930
>works on my machine
It, by nature, has performance overhead.
It is a VM, there is no way to say that it doesn't.

>I'm actually a paying customer.
So the only person getting fucked in the deal?
Denuvo games have been cracked for ages, even fucking fifa got cracked which I thought was exclusively online interaction based lootcraft stuff, I think they just did it to prove a point.

>>388711580
People are pissed about Denuvo because they didn't mention it at all until after the game was released. I mean they'd be pissed anyway, since Denuvo is fucking awful, but at least they would know about it BEFORE they spent money on it.

>>388713047
So he says the performance issues aren't nearly noticeable to make note or cause too much discomfort but still need to point out that it's still there, like a birthmark.

I barely understand Denuvo even having reading this whole thread but apprenlty you're wrong and are seen as defending it when you say "it doesn't really affect me and how I play games".

Idk man, seems a lot of chatter about molehills. Wake me up when something real happens.

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>be a jaded faggot
>the GEN Sonic games are some of your favorites
>Sonic 3K is one of your favorite games of all time
>have little to zero interest in vidya for years on end
>then one day, Sonic Mania is announced
>haven't been this hyped for a game since Brawl
>as development and news happen, learn that the new:rehash ratio is 4:8
>slightly disappointed, but reassured due to just how revamped each zone's act 2 is
>fast forward to 4 days before release date
>SEGA out of the blue kicks PCfats in the nuts by delaying the game 2 weeks due to "optimization" issues
>have to wait an additional 2 weeks while consolefags are having the time of their lives and spoiling the fuck out of the game
>can deal with this shit IF AND ONLY IF this game is practically smooth from the box
>Aug 29th FINALLY comes, game isn't even a midnight release
>hype has all but evaporated
>read up on /v/ beforehand
>learn that SEGA has done the impossible by finding a way to ruin what should have been the perfect Sonic game
>added not just DRM, but fucking always online DENUVO
>witness the wedding cake that is Sonic Mania literally get shat on before my very eyes

It absolutely astonishes me as to how a company has learned NOTHING in the last 20+ years on how NOT to shoot themselves in the fucking foot. I refuse to so much as download this damn game until this shit is gone or cracked.

>>388713003
You can't say that for sure though. People are still buying the game even after release on PC either unaware of Denuvo or don't care that it has it, so that's a moot point. My point was that e-celebs release videos ASAP, especially those with a large following. Sega apparently knows the power of social media, having a few or even just one of them saying it's shit could've killed sales across the board for every platform. This situation in which sega shot themselves in the foot could've been a lot worse.

>>388713367
It's just something that shouldn't exist and shouldn't be defended.

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>>388713047

It does work on my machine, it worked on my laptop with an 870m(gtx 960). It even worked on my GFs old ivy bridge laptop with integrated graphics, so you bet your ass it works on my machineS and my girls machine too.

>So the only person getting fucked in the deal?

You're the sjw who get offended on other people's behalf. If you're interested in acquiring games illicitly good for you. I'll quote post again:

>I care about playing video games

So I buy games, to support games. So they can make the next platinum game for PC(A pipe dream years ago), so I can get the next nier, fuck even shit like dragon quest heroes is on PC now. One thing that me and publishers can agree with is that all this is no thanks to pirates.

So good for you and your seeders that it got cracked, cause I've been already playing it and I hope more of it comes in the future.

>>388703054
People should buy the game to show we're tired of this 3D sonic bullshit with retarded stories

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>>388713462

It wouldn't exist if people got the game through unorthodox means in the first place. It's cute to think about the perfect world where everything goes as you yourself imagine it should. But this world is full of people who will do every thing from the allowed to the disallowed for that is human nature.

Therefore it is also human nature to try and counter by discouraging the disallowed, that is drm in vidya's case.

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ouch

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>>388714315
this isn't my image

>>388713617

>if you think that obtrusive DRM fucks consumers, you're an SJW

Is this really where we're at?

i enjoy the tears of poorfags more than the actual game. fucking commies needs to die

>>388707786
Then why would then even use drm? Checkmate, internet comment.

>>388713617
If it has Denuvo, it doesn't work on my computer and will never work on my computer, and I'm not joining a botnet to make it work on my computer.

I will never buy a game with denuvo .

I will never buy a game

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>>388711959
>Implying it isn't all part of Sega's master plan

I will never buy

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>>388714436
this

>>388704464
> informal
> thinks that is how he should use the word

how can you be so retarded? its what monkey fags like yourself use
stop changing the meaning of words

i wasnt going to buy it before but now i won't buy their next potential project either

I will buy it anyway.. as soon they remove the denuvo.

>>388710335
>they'll probably eventually remove it entirely
Not if you act like such a fucking apologist they won't.

>>388707786
Does it make you feel better to keep posting that, knowing there's many people who were definitely going to buy it before it had Denuvo?

>>388705997
i think there's a small chance they'll remove it as soon as it's cracked since it's brought them a lot of bad publicity, but generally it seems unlikely

>>388708443
it's cracked in that you can download a windows store game and do a bit of registry editing to pirate it
it's not broken wide enough for us to play those games on a good version of windows, sadly

>>388703054
aw dang. Guess I'm not buying it.

Wonder if it's gonna get pirated

>>388712689
I wonder if this will burn the bridge.

>>388712101
Most importantly
>I own my games

http://steamcommunity.com/app/584400/discussions/0/1473095960825596408

>>388703054
>Denuvo

Great job, anything to repel pirates.

>>388718798
>They get fired for backtalking
>Mania 2 made either in-house by Sonic Team or by Dimps
>it's fucking worse than 4
Console faggots better think twice before fucking with us, we'll take you down with us faggots.

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>mfw neither christian who made the game nor the dude in charge of the sonic twitter stand behind having drm on the game

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>>388714401

>Out of everything that's what you comment on

Feels bretty good that the luls line is the only thing you can rebuke.

>>388718860
No you don't, read the EULA for once you fucking idiot.

Do people honestly think a 32bit sonic game isn't gonna be cracked?

I wanna support the game but not if theres restrictions on when I can play it. Im not paying money to have someone tell me I cant use what I paid for

can somebody tell me where the fuck is the save-file located.
I can´t find it anywhere.

>>388709686
See, now there's someone with sense. I doubt they're going to ignore the complaints about this, given they were able to make a game this fucking good (and they already made a post. /v/, calm down)

>>388703054
I don't give a shit, I just want the achievements to work.

>>388723567
Guess what's causing that problem?

>>388704991
poorfags and thirdworlder hues and poos are complaining, but they should be geofenced anyway

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>>388703054
>every other board doesn't care about piracy and encourages it

>/v/ literally is defending DRM and anti piracy measures even if it fucks the consumer

>>388703054
Cancerous modenrfag go back to Deviantart you degenerate

>>388724168
This shithole is filled with paid shills like >>388723914 what else is new?

>>388712101
>can lend, trade or sell my games
No you fucking can't. Not digital ones like Sonic Mania at least.

>>388704074
MODS DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS SHILLING ALREADY

>>388723914
No, they aren't.
Stop pretending.
Denuvo gets cracked almost immediately now, the people complaining are people who have heard of it's abysmal reputation, and who were legitimate customers.
Pirates were always going to pirate, you just made more of them by making a shitload of people butthurt with a useless DRM

>>388707786
MODS
Deal with this generic bots please

>>388707786
It's a shame, I actually was going to two weeks ago. Now, an issue popped up in my life where I'm a little short on cash, so I'll be pirating it. They could have had my money but it's too late now.

>>388708516
Holy shit this. I went to the nier automata /vg/ thread a few months ago and asked if their denuvo had been cracked and they went fucking nuclear.

>>388706915
They're just telling people to go send their complaint to deaf ears so we won't bother them anymore

>>388706934
Pathetic consolevirgins who have no life

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>he's not supporting the future of good sonic games
it's $20 you faggots, suck it up about DRM, most of you use steam which is DRM itself, and offline play issues are getting fixed

Is it the Sonic Mania thread or the complain about Denuvo thread? I want to talk about the game.

>>388713907
you are overthinking it

>>388725285
>make me wait 2 weeks
all sonic games can burn from here and beyond

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>>388726075
>he isn't idort

>>388707318
He's a consolenigger

>>388707623
I actually pre-ordered this game back on June(just around when it went on Steam Sale and was around 2 bucks cheaper) and I was excited to be supporting a good sonic game for once.

But then the delay happened and I had to fucking refund it and now this denuvo shit. Fucking Sega is just another kike company who don't know how to build relationships with their customers. Piece of fucking shit, literal children who don't deserve a single cent.

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>tfw it will get cracked on a couple of days at most
>tfw denuvo's reputation keeps sinking
>tfw implementing denuvo only brought negativity

Being a Denuvocuck is suffering, I can't laugh hard enough

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>Sonic mania
>Xcom 2 DLC
>Dangan ronpa 3
Fug

>>388708516
/v/ is truly pathetic
this shit has turned into reddit

thank god for the rest of the other boards that have maintained the true spirit of 4chan

>>388726730
That's because they took over this place around the same time gamergate threads were banned by moot, fucker destroyed this place beyond repair, now it's infested with plebbitors and neofaggers

>>388709686
Fuck off shill

>>388710335
>but if all i have is a kike dick in my mouth i might as well suck on it for a bit
fixed that for you

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How even this board is against piracy and fucking defending denuvo you must have literally o braincells to defend denuvo

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>>388711580
>The always online shit has me CONVINCED that Izuka just couldn't stand Mania being better than forces.
TROOOOOO FAAAAAAAAAAR MANRIAAAAAAA TEAM!!!

>>388711795
>playing games when you should be working or studying
I shiggy this diggy

>>388711359
>if you have a stronger immune system and you don't even catch anything.
Wow, you really don't know how this stuff works, huh. Protip: almost all the symptoms are your immune system going batshit to try to fight the virus. The stronger your immune system the more you will suffer. You don't ever just 'not catch it'.

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>>388710254
>However if you used Sega's emulator program for over 2 hours it counts as if you were playing sonic mania for those 2 hours since they handed out a copy of sonic 1 after the delay.
>tfw had Sega's emulator on Steam because I retrieved those "Make Love not War" packages back in 2016
>Played a bit of Gunstar Heroes and Golden Axe that came on those package
>tfw have 104 minutes played and I might have been 16 minutes away from not being able to refund Sonic Mania back when they announced the delay because of Sega's kikery(pic related
whew

>>388711639
Game has been out for a while
Check skidrowgamesreloaded
Still no crack tho

>>388703054
>they delayed for Denuvo
Of all the fucking things Sega, you did this. No, fuck you, I'm pirating this.

>>388713617
None of those are toasters. This game, with it's level of graphics should run at full speed on any 15 year old hardware capable of running Windows XP. But I bet it doesn't. And yet I bet it COULD. Without Denuvo.

>>388703054
I'm glad I didn't preorder when the delay was announced.

>>388706614
Denuvo is glorified malware.

>>388703994
keeping that gif

>>388703054
Can't wait for the threads when it gets cracked.

>>388714436
You're the commie since you're the one laying down and taking it from behind from your overlords you fucking faggot

>>388725285
No fuck you you fucking shill
I don't give a fuck about the future of sonic
the future of gaming is more important than one fucking franchise

kill yourself

>>388719768
From what I can find it was the idea of one guy at Sega. Considering how shady the whole affair was (delaying a game 2 weeks to spring DRM on unsuspecting people, possibly adding the Sonic 1 gift to prevent refunds) I legit wonder if someone's gonna get fired.

I'll buy it when they remove Denuvo, I don't want them to think that I appreciate or is fine with it; then again I can just buy and post a negative review but nobody cares about that.

PCfags showing their butthurt once again

>>388703054
Works offline fine on my switch :^)

>>388707647
>always online single player game with a VM running in the background making it run like shit compared to a PS4
>"n-n-not an argument !"
fuck off shill

>>388728203
>when

No one tell him.

>>388707849
Trolls who have nothing in their lives so they resort to try to make real people mad.
Incidentally people with a huge void in their lives are also emotionally unstable weebs.

>>388728870
Tell him what?
The game isn't cracked yet

>>388728795
looks like we're the real Master race Anon :)

>>388728795
>works fine on my literal DRM box that I need to pay 20 bucks a year to use
I'm jealous. Oh well. At least I can play Sonic Mania for free.

>>388727097
>>388711580
It wasn't Izuka this time though you idiot. Allegedly it was Sega of Europe.

>>388713029
none of this is even remotely true. It's so far off that I'm even suspicious as to whether you've seen the game played online, nevermind played it yourself.

>>388703054
Meh
Give it a week

>>388714436
Denuvo is going to be broken in a couple of days thou'

they pushed an update that supposedly fixes the offline launching but the damage has been done
also piratefags will crack it in a couple of days so hopefully sega get their heads out of their asses and remove it completely

https://whyisdenuvobad.github.io/

Is there ANY hard proof of Denuvo impacting performance? Not as in "patch 40 which removed Denuvo runs better than patch 1", I mean a comparison video of game on the same patch version with Denuvo cracked.

>>388726645
The Denuvo people are actually pretty smart. A bunch of pirates who found a way to get paid a lot of money for their pirating skills

>>388727036
>How even this board is against piracy
Because Piracy leads to this shit happening and pirates never take responsibility.
>fucking defending denuvo
Because of Piratefags like you you commie faggot.
>>>left/pol/