Just beat this game for the FIRST TIME and you know what? This

No one here actually hates it, it's just nitpicking and contrarianism.

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>>388671270
>/v/ hates hl2
Since when?

>>388671270

My man, how was it going in?

My only gripes with HL2 are some of the guns feeling weak and all the exposition near the beginning of the game.

On a replay, the vehicle sections and physics puzzles are not nearly as bad as people make them out to be. I actually like the vehicle sections.

>>388671621
since maybe 5 days ago

>>388671621
Since

>1) it was popular
>2)HL3 is dead, so people are going "I liked those games"

Never underestimate the urge to be contrarian

>>388671270
i remember quite enjoying it actually, but that is all i remember. none of the level design was all that memorable

>>388671270
>This game fucking owns
It's fine that you said this, but for whatever reason this one sentence really reminds me of the internet during the early 2000s

HL2 is fucking awsome though

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>>388671270
>That atmosphere
See this is the problem with this fucking game. The atmosphere is ALMOST perfect, but it's ruined by all the retarded, goofy side characters like Kleiner/Barney/let SIMBLY ERIC orthodox Russian sniper man, which makes the bleak, dystopian world it tries to depict fall flat. Everyone should be downtrodden as fuck, about to burst into tears any moment, not shooting quips at you while fighting Eldritch abominations from another world.

Everything should feel as hopeless as Laidlaw's ending for ep. three.

Most people love it. It's a loud vocal minority that fall into a new phenomenon of over scrutinizing classics. Sonic was never good, Zelda is trash, Mario 64 was awful. It gets to the point where you see people saying Megaman was bad.


They're obnoxious, joyless plebs. Ignore them.

>>388672714
who ate all the donuts? Why must we wear these ridiculous ties?

>>388672714
>it's ruined by all the retarded, goofy side characters like Kleiner/Barney/let SIMBLY ERIC orthodox Russian sniper man, which makes the bleak, dystopian world it tries to depict fall flat.
You could have just said "it's ruined by all the people having hope"

>>388672657
PWNED
n00b! *holds up spork*

>>388671270
It's a fantastic game and outshines its predecessor in almost every way.

If it had less bits where you're just standing around listening to people talk, and the "let me give you a tutorial on how this weapon works, also play fetch with this robot" didn't exist, it would be 10/10.

>Half-Life
8.5/10
>Half-Life 2
9.5/10

>>388672714
>it's ruined by all the retarded, goofy side characters like Kleiner/Barney/let SIMBLY ERIC orthodox Russian sniper man
Wow look at this horrible taste. Those characters give the game personality, Half Life 2 wouldn't be Half Life 2 without them.

>>388672847
Half-life 1 was always a pretty ridiculous premise though, so it's nowhere near as out of place as it is in the sequel.

>>388672876
It fucking is though. 20 years of life under a brutal totalitarian regimes controlling the entire planet, aliens from another dimension that defeated the entire planet in seven fucking hours. Even 20 years later everyone should be walking around as though they've just been raped. It doesn't make any sense otherwise.

>>388673265
>Those characters give the game personality,
They didn't though. This is clearly what they were going for, but the characters were so one-dimensional and act in such improbable ways that they might as well not even have bothered.

>>388673408
You're the only one that feels that way, sorry buddy.

>>388671270
>why does /v/ hate it so fucking much?
Because they've played better games.
Like Half-Life 1.

>>388673276
sounds like you would've enjoyed the HL2 Beta more.

>>388673464
Absolute horseshit. I've seen loads of posters in this shithole alone who agreed with essentially everything I've typed.

You know this true, and you have no rebuttal.

>>388672714
t. somebody who clearly never played HL1.
Valve games were all about the black comedy since day 1.

>>388673601
Probably.

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>>388672714
Half-Life clearly isn't intended to be 100% grimdark and self-serious. It's a game where you're a physicist in a super hazmat suit going around genociding dozens of soldiers and aliens in all sorts of ridiculous situations, all while carrying an infeasible amount of weaponry in your magical pockets.

Go play Metro if you're looking for a grounded FPS in a bleak and dystopian world.

>>388673068
half life 2 is no means a bad game but i strongly disagree with the idea that it is better than the first game in even any way other than graphics

>>388671270
>That perfect level design
lol

>>388672714
>Everyone should be downtrodden as fuck, about to burst into tears any moment, not shooting quips at you while fighting Eldritch abominations from another world.
Literally in the first chapter of the game there are several instances where the people being portrayed as downtrodden. You even have to walk through an apartment building where people are consoling each other and asking one another what they need to do. People outside the city are fighting for the Resistance and probably know that they can't be downtrodden about it because the Resistance would have already failed if they had been.

Keep in mind the story of Half-Life takes place a long time after the first game meaning that people are probably not as shocked by the "Eldritch abominations" as they were when they first appeared. Also Gordon Freeman is hailed as this hero, presumably because the story of his exploits was passed down by survivors of the Black Mesa incident. That's why people are hopeful when Gordon arrives at the scene because they know with his help there's hope for victory.

As for Father Grigori, he is clearly used to being in Ravenholm and fighting off his citizens and his attitude towards it is actually kinda poignant. Sometimes when attacking zombies he'll go "I remember your true face" and there's no way to be sure he actually knows that or if he's just crazy for being in Ravenholm for so long.

>>388673704
Physics, gunplay, pacing. I think they'd be about on par if the end of HL1 didn't completely shit the bed.

>>388673604
Nah. The characters are good. If the game was like how you want it, it would be generic. All of those characters are memorable and add to the game.

>>388671621
This sub hates any game if it happens to be too popular.

>>388673641
I played HL1 before 2.

And anyway that's not my point. My point is that the far more bleak atmosphere in HL2 doesn't fit the 'black comedy' that you're describing.

>>388673838
>physics
gimmicky shit that detracted from fun aspects of half life 2

>gunplay
most guns were fucking peashooters what the fuck

>pacing
okay

>>388673840
>no I'm right
Stunning rebuttal.

The characters sucked dick.

>>388671270
Contrarianism. People think they are somehow superior to others by thinking that this game is bad and saying that multiple times whenever they get the chance.

>>388673068
I agree but "Play with the dog" part was so mind blowing to me the first time I played it.

>>388672714
Half-Life series never takes it self that serious tho. It knows how to make you feel fucking awful and scared by sending you to a place like Ravenholm, but then see a crazy russian man and don't feel so alone for 10 seconds. Sometimes it takes everything from you, captures you, makes you feel hopeless only for then to give the most fun weapon in the entire game and let you rekt everything with it.

The game is fantastic on a first play through, but the simple mechanics and slow paced levels don't hold up for replays. It's also very long for a first person shooter.

>>388673408
> the characters were so one-dimensional and act in such improbable ways that they might as well not even have bothered.

Please give examples that prove your point.

>>388674031
About as good an argument as your "the characters are bad because I said so".

>>388674081
No.

>>388674132
Good thing I didn't make that argument.

>>388673942
>sub

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>>388674202
Yeah you did. You can have your opinion, I disagree with it.

>>388674081
>"hey gordon remember me from black mesa??"
>"hey gordon nice crowbar haeh"
>"hey gordon you sure are quiet haha"
can you guess which character i'm quoting? it's fucking all of them.

>>388674285
But I didn't.

>I'll post le funny pic so it seems like I'm not emotionally invested
Good for you faggot.

I think you should stop replying, since you clearly have nothing to contribute.

>>388672414
This

>>388674081
>HEY GORDON YOU GONNA DO THAT THING RIGHT?? BADA BING BADA BOOM. ASHES.

>>388674376
This is exact the kind of shit I'm talking about.

I shouldn't even need to quote this, because it happens literally every time you fucking encounter somebody in the game.

>>388674441
Yeah you did. Sorry bucko. Most people disagree with you and think those characters add to the game.
>>388674376
Literally a meme tier reasoning. Barely any dialogue is like that, but sure go and cherry pick the whole 2 times anything like that is said through the game, it'll help you convince the 3 people who haven't played it that maybe it's bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iu4GXUHfU0

>>388674376
Barney and Alyx only say lines like these once in the entire game. Not a strong enough argument to prove your point, I'm afraid.

>>388673942
>sub
nice

>>388675058
>>388675058
I love this vid

>>388674923
>Most people disagree with you
And a few posts ago you said it was everyone.

Not everyone shares your opinion, and your opinion is not necessarily objectively correct.

Shocking, I know.

>Literally a meme tier reasoning. Barely any dialogue is like that, but sure go and cherry pick the whole 2 times anything like that is said through the game, it'll help you convince the 3 people who haven't played it that maybe it's bad.
You're so fucking stupid, holy shit. 'the whole 2 times?' Did you even PLAY the game? Or are you just this much of a butthurt valve fanboy? Jesus christ.

>>388675158
>Barney and Alyx only say lines like these once in the entire game.
And this is just an outright fucking lie.

Drink bleach.

>>388671270
>tfw you started the hl2 was tech demo meme
im sorry

>>388675352
Yes I have played the game, which is why I know you're grossly exaggerating dialogue and acting like 2 lines are the script of the game.

I thought the parts where you drive around the ruined world were pretty comfy. Didn't care for the boat though but that segment isn't that long.

>>388671270
Some games a just classic. I had a similar experience with playing Deus Ex for the first time last year. I just wish I had it in my life sooner.

>>388674029
The physics added so much to the gameplay. It's not a gimmick, it's a feature that could have easily felt like cheap tech demo shit but actually carries its weight and improves the game immensely. Source is fun as hell.

>>388675318

It's pretty good.

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>>388675458
Can you give proof or are you just going to spout the epic bleach meme?

>>388676873
Don't waste your time, dude's socially retarded. He thinks a coworker who hasn't seen you in 20 years wouldn't try to jog your memory and remind you where you know him and that ruins the game because he is ignorant of the way people communicate with each other.

>>388672714
>Half Life has goofy characters

Grass is green and the sky is blue.

I know you're at least around 13 years of age, but go play HL1 before you shitpost

>>388677335
DON'T SHOOT I'M WITH THE SCIENCE TEAM

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>>388672714
They aren't really goofy they're just more chipper and optimistic about the future of the rebellion. Goofy is the last word I would use to describe Barney or Kleiner, you're just being a nitpicking faggot about the game just so you can fit in with the other /v/irgins on this board, however you chose the worst possible reason to criticize Half-Life 2, the characters were one of the best parts about that game.

/v/ hates it? I thought we were all on suicidal watch last Friday when Marc Laidlaw practically confirmed that the series is dead.

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>>388671270

>>388671270
Half-Life 2 is like #3 or something on /v/'s greatest games of all time list.

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What should I play, /v/?

>Half-Life: Opposing Forces
>Half-Life: Blue Shift

I know that OF > HL, but I don't know where Blue Shift should be.

I don't remember it very much.

>>388679505

Blue shift finishes first and the other two. If you wanna play for timeline reasons, Blue Shift is first.

>>388671270
>why does /v/ hate it so fucking much?

Because it ruined FPS by turning it into easy, linear, story focused tech demo crap with lame ass unsatisfying shooting mechanics.

>>388671270
Who is this "/v/" guy that you redditors talk about so much?

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I dunno, I found it pretty boring to play through honestly. It's an okay game but nothing spectacular, I vastly prefer HL1 over it.
Maybe the episodes are better, I should get to playing them.

>>388674057
>I agree but "Play with the dog" part was so mind blowing to me the first time I played it.

This. The gravity gun was a big fucking deal at the time as far as innovation in games goes. Having a short section to fuck around with it was fine. it looks silly now, sure, but then it was no issue at all.

>>388676105
How exactly does it improve gameplay? You shoot chairs at enemies? I mean...it's something I guess, but I've never understood peoples fascination with the source engine physics, it just looks silly and usually you're better off just shooting the enemies.
I understand it was a huge technological advancement at the time but everyone gives it so much credit and I can't really understand why.

>>388678426
source?

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>>388673942
Well crafted

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>>388673672
>Infeasible amount of weaponry
Quitter.

>>388675527
No he isn't. It hits you over the head with it. HL2 is boring trash.

>>388680305
Will you take off your 2017 hat one fucking second, dipshit. and remember that this was 2004. Nothing like it had been seen before. It was a significant step forward in gaming technology.

>>388680484

Are people really complaining about too much weaponry from a 90's/2000's game?

>>388680353
Check the title, babe.
It says "Aoi Honoo Episode 02"

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>>388671270
I recently replayed it after not having played it since around the time it came out and it was alright. Knowing how badly Valve butchered the original concept is painful.

>>388680557
I literally called it a huge technological advancement, what more do you fucking want? I'm just saying that other than being impressive it doesn't add much to the game itself, which is pretty bland if you take away the gimmicks.
It's still one of the most influential games ever made and I'm not denying it but it just wasn't that fun for me personally

>>388680594
Original guy wasn't complaining, just stating that the guy saying HL2 isn't good because it isn't grimdark is retarded, since HL2 has all manner of ludicrous over the top aspects like carrying 15 giant scifi guns at once.

>>388679505
>OF > HL
OF is good but come on.

>>388680305
>How exactly does it improve gameplay?

It should have but it doesn't. I've actually made a mod of the game which makes most weapons massively more accurate, for both yourself and for the enemy AI, and that actually completely changes how you approach everything. It makes the game massively better because it forces you to use every available thing you can to cover yourself, meaning you really damn well will want to pick up boxes and metal sheets to place and use as shields whenever you can.

In the regular game there's basically no reason to give a shit about this at all, you can just run from place to place and bullets spray everywhere until you get to the next spot. It's mostly mindless fluff.

>>388680305
>I understand it was a huge technological advancement at the time
Halo came out three years earlier and did most of the same shit.

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Maybe there will be a Half life 3 after all? with the episode 3 ending as a intro prologue to the game.

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>>388672714
This is the worst post I've ever seen in my life

>>388680674
thanks mate

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>>388680552
>played HL2 a few years back
>boring tech demo masquerading as a game
>playing HL1 right now
>having the time of my life playing an actual video game

>>388672714
I'm so glad nobody made the game really GRITTY and EDGY.

>>388680883

Still, i'd love to play Ep3 as Leidlaw written.

>>388681000
me too anon...me too. ;_;

>>388672876
That's not goofy, goofy is how it references trivial things from the previous game trying to connect them when really the games have nothing to do with each other.

>>388680748
Well, you've confirmed for me that you were too young to appreciate what Half Life 2 actually did and you must have grown up with games released years after HL2 that were more advanced.

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>>388681043

Hopefully some modders do it at least near as good as it would be made by Valve.

>>388671270
Yeah, I played through it for the first time 2 days ago and I agree, what a great game.

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>we will never get another Half-Life game because of meg retards and their pedantic memes

>>388671270
I feel like HL2 is a game that will age poorly, moreso than HL1 which had superior gameplay. Both are in my top ten regardless. The facial animations in HL2 are still better than trash getting released today, it's shit like this that makes HL3's death all the more damaging, I can't even begin to imagine how a game like that would have completely altered the face of gaming.

>>388681239
>too young
I simply didn't play it when it was released, I was playing other stuff. I played it for the first time after playing games that were much more impressive than it, sure, but I wouldn't have found the shitty boat and buggy physics any better at 15 than I did at 25. Things hitting other things and following basic physics isn't entertaining to me and it never was.

>>388673604
name 3 :v)

>haven't played HL2 in like a decade
>downloaded it + HL2: Update
Are there any other major graphics-related mods I should be aware of? I know of FF but can I pick and choose what exactly I want instead of having to install the full 20gb behemoth?

>>388681239
What did HL2 do that games like HL1 and Halo didn't do already?

>>388681902
Well it did bring Source Engine to the world which is a pretty big deal for gaming as a whole.

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>plebs awakening to the design perfection of half life

hopefully shitposting declines now

>>388672253

agreed

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>be me
>play hl2
>le cool exposition face.jpeg
>mfw its like mirrors edge
>tfw get to a combat sequence in some boxes
>le mfw its super boring
>uninstalld

>>388674376
>characters acting one-dimensional when interacting with a character that literally has no personality or input
Gee, I wonder why?
Yet when the characters interact with eachother (Such as Alyx with Eli, Mossman, Breen, etc), you actually get to see their personalities play out.

>>388681992
>which is a pretty big deal for gaming as a whole
why though, i really can't think of much it did that hadn't already been done around that time. the only thing i can think of that still stands out is the facial animations.

The boat and car segments could be cut by half, at least. boner kill every time i wish to replay it. otherwise pretty much 10/10

>"""contrarianism"""
Look I've loved HL2 for years but for the love of God, realize that this stupid fucking word is even more wasteful and detrimental to discussion as 'autism' or 'edgy' or what-have-you. You're literally just making up reasons in your head for why you think people think differently than you do. Real opinions vs. Fake opinions. It's so fucking stupid and using the word is the exact kind of baseless ankle-deep reasoning it feigns to condemn

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>>388682154
>Trump pic
>Says "be me"
>Does cringy ".jpeg" joke
>Hates HL2
You'd feel right at home back at r/4chan where you came from.

>>388671270
We don't "hate" it, we just point out how overrated it is.
Solid 7/10 game

>>388682293
How many Source engine games have you played? There's your answer

>Kids who wear literally shitting their diapers when HL2 came out trying to shit on HL2
This thread man, this thread.

>>388682863
The amount of games that ran on Source is nothing compared to the amount of games than ran on things like Unreal.

>>388683085
>same kids prefer HL1 to it
hnnghhh rly mek tink :s

>>388682778
I can't believe you took that shit at face value

>>388682542

Oh c'mon, every game that gets slightly popular or a classic game being liked by a certain amount of people starts getting hated on this board. I've seen epople shitting on Quake for literally no reason.

Not only on /v/ but in every single board.

Who else here is going to replay the entire HL franchise?

>>388682778
You forgot to mention "le".

>>388672714
I actually get where you're coming from in a way, but it seems like most people are taking your words at face value. It's not an issue of the game having goofy scenes, but there's a lack of moments where you can really take it all and view the worst of it since everything was a buildup to episode 3 which is why it aged so well once everyone understood the ending circumstances.

>>388673942
/r/v

>>388683437
Quake is a whole other can of worms on /v/. All the stupid asses here praise arena FPS so they can prove how "hardcore" they are, but have never played them, and then proceed to mock any Arena FPS coming out because its either 1. A clone of quake 3 in which case, why play this when I can just play quake 3 (which the poster doesn't actually play)? or 2. This game isn't a clone of quake 3 so it's awful.

>>388672714
Never cared much for Valve's "le quirky SCIENCE!" humor

>>388683370
Poes law, anon.
Considering what this website is like anymore I don't blame him for falling for the bait.

>>388681780
Anon, anon, and (you)

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Ever since friday I've been coming here, and surprised with how many HL2/HL threads there are here nowadays, with people talking about how they had just started or just finished it.
Glad to see so many fuckers creating a hype for something that we'll never see the end.

I guess I've become a HL2 widow.
I am so sad.

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>People younger than Ep2 are waiting for Ep3
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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After all these years, my favourite video game enemy is still the Strider.

>>388681794
Please respond.

>>388686838
Just play the original game, it looks fine.

>>388671270
Ackshll shootan isn't very good. Same thing for HL1. Still, it's a visual & sound design tour de force. At the time it blew us all away with its fusion of technology and design.

For me, playing either HL game now is disappointing. I remember liking them so much, but they're just not fun anymore.

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WAITING SO LONG I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG

>>388678426
Amazing.

>Mfw just started replaying HL2

It really is such a perfect single player fps.

>>388681794
>>388686838
There is no reason not to play HL2 Update. HL2 Update adds modern shadow effects, modern lighting effects, and a lot more world detail (meaning you'll see a lot less fog at the edge of the levels), and some other minor goodies, but it won't touch the textures and polygons at all, which is how it should be. FF is basically its own thing, I would not recommend it at all.

>>388672714
I saw it as people brightening up because of Gordon. He was missing for a long time. Last time they saw him as when things were a lot better.
Sure, Black Mesa was going to shit, but it was still better than what they had now.
I like to think that the characters became more optimistic because of that, because Gordon reminded them of better times and made them hope.

>>388687296
Gotcha. Thanks boss.

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>>388687296
>FF is basically its own thing
To expand on this, FF has its vision, its own models, its own lighting, its own art style, its own map props, its own planes, bridges, and ferns all over the levels, etc. All of this being way too far removed from the original HL2.

It MIGHT be cool if you're looking for a new way to experience HL2, but definitely not on a first playthrough.

>>388687767
It isn't my first playthrough--just the first in a very long time but yeah I've seen enough to stay away.

Is there anything like HL2: Update for Ep1+Ep2?

>>388687859
There is no Update for Ep1 + Ep2, but they already have some upgrades over the original HL2. Episode 2 looks pretty damn good over the original HL2.

>>388686821
That pulse cannon sound is so distinctive. And don't get me started on the warp cannon, god damn