ILLIDAN IS /OURGUY/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgS OO7ckAp8

>>388646230
Illidan is out there somewhere

>I AM MY SCARS

OW

THE

EDGE

>there is no chosen one

Tell that to all of my characters who seem to be the ones destined to save the universe according to all the NPCs.

>moral relativity on the beings that are supposedly lawful good

Is-- is Blizzard GOOD again?!!?

>>388646271
Anon no

>>388647263
No_

>>388646230
This is so edgy that I cut my finger when I click on this link.
Also fuck Illidan, Bolvar is the man.

Why did Illidian blow up the glowy jigsaw puzzle? Was his autism at maximum?

>>388648319
Imagine if something was trying to force you to be something you don't want to be. Would you simply lay there and take it like a pussy?

>>388646230
>>388646708

>lawful good jigsaw nobody questions
>floating jigsaw says he is the chosen one
>offers him his TRUE FORM (tm) for power to win
>Illidan is rightfully suspicious due to this literally having already happened to him
>declines
>jigsaw grabs him and starts forcing him to change forms
>heal your scars, metaphorically erasing everything that has made him who he is, as if everything he's sacrificed has been for nothing
>gets pissed and lasers it down

anyone with an ounce of dignity would have done the same thing

>/v/ will argue this

>>388648387
>betraying the Light

>>388646230
I suddenly like Illidan now. I always found him the edgy anime reject character that's there for 13yo to think he's cool. While he's still all that, he was kinda badass here as he mirrored my feelings on things.

>>388647057
you're just the chosen one to help the chosen one

>>388649495
>implying the light was ever on your side

>>388650013
Whatever side the Light is on, I am there too

I still hate what they turned Illidan into in Legion but this one is not bad.

Illidan wasn't killed in the Black Temple raid?

>>388649495
Turelyon pls. Illidan doesn't need to become a pansy ass light spewing drone to wreck the Legion's shit.

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>>388646230
>kills a naaru right in front of velen and a bunch of high ranking draenei
>turalyon gets mad but is over it instantly
>everybody is astonishingly accepting over what just happened

ok what the fuck

>>388646271
I will finish the hunt

>>388650252
they got their whole world view challenged once they saw the Naruu try and do something against someones will. What was happening to Illidan right there was rape.

>>388650384
Sometimes you just need to relax and accept the rape

>>388650384
you cant rape a man

>>388650365
The guilty will suffer!

>>388649495
The light is not inherantly good in Warcraft it's just another faction

>>388650252
everyone saw the leader of the naaru freak the fuck out and try to force someone into some kind of light-infused creature

much like the legion regularly does

>>388650506
Illidan is half elf half demon and zero % man.

>>388650506
>somewhere out there there's an image of illidan stormrage getting rammed up the ass
>most likely by garrosh or some naga

whew

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>>388650384
This is what I was wearing when I was raped. Go ahead, tell me I asked for it.

>>388650605
by Maive futa

I have no idea what any of this is but I agree with >>388649495

Faggot elfdemon is a faggot

>>388650243
that was just a temporary setback™

>still playing wow

Give it up lads. If I can do it, so can you.

>>388650515
We're wasting time here

>>388650384
>What was happening to Illidan right there was rape.
Would you say that he was not prepared?

God this is so fucking stupid WoW fags will eat this shit right up

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>>388646230
>My destiny is my own
>fucking obliterates it
That's the stuff, stick it to those pompous Na'ru shits and that nothing controls you.

>>388650521
The light smiles upon the just

>>388646230
Tell me /v/, was it autism?

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Is Warcraft lore doomed without Metzen?

>>388651471
It was doomed with Metzen, so nothing really changed.

>/v/ before
FUCK THOSE CHOSEN ONE BULLSHIT
>/v/ after
UGHHH WHY ISNT HE THE CHOSEN ONE SHIT WRITING

>>388651471
Young metzen* and yes

>>388646230
>57 seconds in
Did they just misspell "Illidan"?

>>388650782
>Implying anyone here plays
>not just watching the cutscenes because deep in your hearth,you know WoW was fun once and you want to know more of the ´´lore``

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>>388651471
>Is Warcraft lore doomed without Metzen?
Yes. Metzen was the only person that pushed to have Horde story, but now that he's gone, the Horde are doing jackshit, and we have Sylvanas of all people as Warchief. The current writers are obviously Alliance babies, and Legion has shown us just how far they're willing to go with their bias.

That wind chime was right that attacking Illidan on Outland was fucking stupid. The Horde is committing genocide in Lordaeron and we're traveling to another planet to fight some guy that doesn't even want to fight us?

>>388651914
I haven't played "for reals" since Cata. I resubbed for a month each in MoP and WoD, mostly because the bf did and the only thing that matters to me about this shit game anymore is keeping up with the story and seeing where it goes, which I can luckily do via cutscenes on youtube.

Haven't touched Legion and don't plan to, even the bf realized how shit wod was and has no interest in it anymore.

But, yeah. Most of us do at least want to see where the story goes. The only thing blizz doesn't suck at these days is making good cutscenes/cg movies.

>>388652202
Are you bottom or top?

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>people think Illidan isn't actually the big bad
>He just wants to kill Sargeras to take his power

There is no other conclusion, you only had to listen.

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>>388646230
this light shit is getting real sketch
why can't we just remove light and legion at the same time

>>388652487
does it actually work like the highlander tho?

>Illidan just catches Turalyons sword with his hand

Holy shit blizzard is fucking awful lol

>>388646230
Are these cutscenes actually played in game or is this just promotional material?

>>388652801
hes a ret paladin they do NO dmg at all

>>388652801
He bleeds from it if you paid attention, he just gives no fucks.

>>388653032

His hand shouldn't be attached any more, a paper cut from one of the most skilled warriors out there is fucking retarted

>>388652905
played ingame usually at the end of long questlines or after important bosskills

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>>388650882
made me giggle, nice one

>>388653204
Plot armor. Just like we can't Rez people who die in cutscenes, just like Cloud didn't Phoenix Down Aeris, or Cyan didn't give his wife and kid an Antidote or Phoenix Down either.

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paladins btfo

>>388653204
He's tough, he used to be a raid boss, y'know

>>388653695
Nah. He's simply a tough guy.

>>388650882
kek

>5 threads with this now

and you guys cry about PUBG shills

>>388650252
Velen got really pissy at the Naaru and the Light back in 7.0 after the whole debacle with his son.

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>>388650384
>What was happening to Illidan right there was rape.

>>388653204
he had devotion aura

>>388646230
1 second pause between every word. I see Blizzards writing is as amateur as ever and retards just drink it up.

>>388654136
this guy is right, I remember 20 people constantly cutting him with blades, throwing magical fire and shadowy energies at him for like 15 minutes before he died.

>>388650726
Can't betray the light if you were never aligned with it. Illidan is his own man, lightcuck

>>388646230
Which shiny windchime is that?

>>388646230
this is literally me at last thanksgiving when I came out as athiest

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>>388646230
So in the end, the only thing Illidan would not sacrifice is his previous sacrifices.

>>388656761
The one that kept nagging you during all of Legion

>>388652487
maybe illidan's body was possessed by sargeras after all and he's just rusing us? i think that would be too hard for nu-blizz to write well though

I'm glad illidan killed that faggot thing

The naaru are so gay, the light should be a more abstract thing not literal beings made of it

Fucks sake.

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>>388653902
Are paladins the most BTFO'd class in all of legion
> Naaru hate you for fighting Illidan and consider you fighting for him your chance at redemption
> Army of the light gets BTFO'd
> Turalyon the greatest Paladin can only scratch Illidan
> Four DK's walk into Lights hope and destroy everyone there
> The class campaign ending is just the priests

>>388657275
you eye beamed a giant wind chime?

>>388646230
I don't even play WoW, but when is the Illidan pandering going to stop? I've been hearing about him vicariously through /v/ for ages.

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>>388647057
You are the chosen fetch quest gatherer.

>>388657928
agreed, ruined paladins for me

>>388658108

Hopefully by the end of this expansion

He's basically becoming lich king 2.0 to become to jailer of sargeras here on argus.

Hopefully we never see this cringey edgelord again.

>>388657916

he's been possessed by the Xel'Naga and Diablo Prime. thats how we bring the three franchises together

>>388658267
ever since they retconned the burning legion into being basically the zerg, this wouldn't surprise me

>>388646230
>There is no chosen one.
>Only we can save ourselves!
Huh, actually quite unexpected. So the Illidan being all holy and shit-leak was fake all along.

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>mfw Illidan shenanigans is the best thing WoW Lore has done in years

>>388649070
Just face it illidan is evil bro. He should be executed on the spot by the alliance and his head posted up in darnassus.

>"muh destiny" fags BTFO
>Destiny 2 on Battle.net

huh

>>388658446
wasn't that reveal not so popular? could be they changed the story for that reason. they're used to changing shit after all

>>388646230
Friendly reminder that the chronicle confirms the light is inherently and canonically GOOD. At least now cold steel fans finally got their bone, setting aside all the bullshit that had to happen to get there.

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>>388646230

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>>388658840
Pretty sure it was changed given they data mined the skins and everything

>Xe'ra getting BTFO
my dick can only be so erect

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>Illidian gets a massive redemption ark and got away with everything he did because muh prophecy
>Kael and Vashj got shafted because they needed another raid tier

Setbacks when?

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>>388650882
Well done anon

>>388658981
>kael thas will only be remembered for his setback memes
Th-thanks sunwell..

Is Illidan going to cleave Sargeras in half with his neverending edge?

>>388655427
You got a video or something? I haven't played since cata, and this sounds like lore got interesting.

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>>388658959
>throwing red herrings in your game to throw off data miners

that would be legit cool if it were true

>>388651963
Even when horde was being pushed hard, it was really just Thrall. Horde and everyone else have always been shown to be secondary or fuckups, the few times they weren't people universally loved it, and they got ignored afterwards anyways.

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>>388658840
>>388658959
I mean those wings would barely have been more than placeholder at the time, it's one of the Priest spells. The other effects were probably easy to swap out.
Could very well be that they just fooled us all along, one of those deliberate things to find to throw us off.

>Turalyon loses the holy light in his eyes
mfw

>>388651471
wow lore is only where it is now bc they're trying to make something out of the mess that was metzins writing

>>388659060
I still find it stupid he went pants on head retarded and sold out to the Legion. I'd rather had him die for good in Tempest Keep with some shady business going on in an misguided attempt to save his people. But no, THE WORLD SHALL BURN, YOU WILL DROWN ON YOUR OWN BLOOD ARAUGAGHAH

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>>388650882

>>388659310
WoW lore became somewhat weird starting at Warcraft 3 when it became character focused. The lore didnt go full retard until BC with shit like Space Goats and insanity = evil being a primary focus.

Warcraft has always had retcons up the ass though.

>>388658446
You'd have to be retarded to even pretend to believe that leak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eVy3VSGbk8

>>388659558
With Blizzard writing said leak was always a possibility. This is the same writing staff that thought WoD was a good idea.

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>>388650506

>>388659179
Reminds me of when people found out about Goblins and Worgen because of the Halloween masks, then Blizzard rushed in some other racial masks that were of much lower quality to cover it up.

There wasn't even any reason to add those masks in the first place, either. Cataclysm wasn't going to come out until after that Halloween, and in the end those masks weren't available that year.

>>388659717
Not if fucking wasn't. It was just doing the same thing as that one dreadlord NPC. It had no place in the story and was a really sketchy image to begin with.

>>388659767
Cannot rape a man. Just don't get hard and you win.

>>388658959
But that wasn't datamined, it was fan-made.

>>388660120
That's what drugs are for
Also suppressing a boner isn't always easy

>>388646230
>thumbnail spoils the cinematic

>>388659168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vHOqLlNq4M

>>388660316
I thought he was more pissed at you for killing his son rather then anything the light did or did not do for him.

>>388647263
The only reason they killed off Xe'ra is because the community unanimously despises her.

So the Naaru are now evil and illidan goo? HAHA what the fuck blizzard >>388646230

>>388660507
It's at the end, he says he's done with prophecies from the Light, because he saw the whole thing in a vision ages ago but wasn't given any context and wasn't able to change it.

>>388646230
Even as someone that hates nu-wow with a passion,that shit was pretty cool.
I do hate naarus tho

>>388660540

Is there literally any naaru that isn't complete shit?

I can't think of one.

How is Legion different from warcraft 3?

>>388661781
How's W3 anything close to this abomination?

Heh, this video completely erased my care to play a paladin or even a priest. Such cuck classes.

>>388658210
>haha remember when i told you to get those apexis crystals? haha that was a laugh! anyway, go get those nethershards for me
Fuck off Khadgar.

>>388661735
Considering they're basically vorlons, i'd hope there's a kosh tier naaru

>>388646230
>Naaru acting suspicious as fuck all expansion
>This particular one is annoying as shit with forcing you into unskippable cutscenes and boring 18 week questlines
>Tries to mind meld Illidan and steal his body probably because the Naaru fucking shits are working for the void lords
>Based Illidan kills it without a second thought
Wtf im resubbing now!

>>388651983
To be fair there were a shitload of demons pouring out of the Dark Portal
Why wouldn't they assume they were coming from the massive demon fortress led by The Betrayer
Kael'thas was just kind of being a huge cunt for no reason and was trying to summon Kil'Jaedin and shit and Illidan got caught up in the fighting

>>388662179
druids are the real master class since elune is the original light of universe, the only real god

>>388662559
Or just warriors, the only independant class.

>>388657928
Yeah the whole 'evil beings can use the Light as long as they believe in their justice' got a whole lot dumber when it was revealed that actual sentient beings are giving them their power

>>388658108
Illidan's only been featured in two expansions, one where he was a mid-expansion raid boss and the current one where he's basically the main character for the expansion
People generally talk about him from WC3 more, and he's basically guaranteed to fuck off forever again at the end of the expansion (until their subs start bleeding and they have to break the emergency Illidan glass case a second time)

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>It's a "Light is as evil as dark" episode
>It's not even executed well
So are the Wild Gods the only decent gods in Warcraft?

>>388662640
what about rogues?

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>>388662559
>Implyin' mon

>>388663051
No, that would be the Old Gods

>>388646230
This is basically wc3 quality imo. Looks like Warcraft lore might finally be good again.

>>388662559
>>388662640
>>388663082
There is literally nothing wrong with being a Shaman

>>388663230
>Hey elements help me kill these elements

>it took this long for a WoW character to finally realize the space windchimes and shady as fuck and do nothing but use people
Finally.
They've creeped me out since TBC.

>>388663292
WELL MAYBE IF SOMEBODY STOPPED CORRUPTING ELEMENTALS THIS WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM

>>388662559
>easily the best tanks and healers in the game
>solid as fuck ranged dps
>complicated and engaging melee spec for intelligent gamers such as myself
truly the master class

>>388651471
Warcraft lore was doomed from TBC onward, no self respectable oldfag would call what WoW is now warcraft. Not only has the story turned in to wacky fanfiction shit, but everything, even the new art style only vaguely resembles Warcraft. I DREAD to think what WC3 remastered is going to look like, they can't even get resolution right currently.

>>388663415
What really fucking creeps me out is that all the spirit healers on Argus are Naaru.

The way that the top part of their body tracks you as you run around while dead like a head is freaky.

Someone tl;dr it for me as I'm at work and I can't view the video

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You're still playing this shit?

>>388651471
This one cut scene, despite being shit, was still better than literally anything modern Metzen could have come up with. It is saved

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>>388662559

>He isn't alpha enough to play a warrior

lmaoing at your life desu

>>388664432
>playing melee characters

>>388663051

Fuck Gods, honestly.

The focus SHOULD be on the mortal races, not these sentient porch decorations.

>>388664506
All the fun boss mechanics are melee oriented these days anyways.
Ranged hasn't been remotely fun in years.

>>388664113
They fix the magic wind chime, it tries to mindrape Illidan into the champion of the light, Illidan says no and lazer eyes the wind chime to death
Tyralyon is kind of upset
The end

>>388664506

I've literally never enjoyed a ranged class, except for maybe mop hunter but that shit was broken

>>388664113
>Xe'ra is put back together and reactivates
>it grabs illidan and tries to shove the holy power of light up his anus
>illidan eyebeams it to death
>"There is no chosen one, we can only save ourselves"

>>388646230
Is that armor from the white haired male human in this game for players?

>>388647057
Works really well as a way to persuade a literally who into fetching Defias masks and Kobold candles

>>388664609
I miss BC surv hunter.. that was interesting.

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>>388664753

Not the exact model but a pretty close version for paladins

>>388650521
Only just now.

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>They actually did a switcheroo because of the backlash to Illidan becoming some "chosen one warrior of light" in the books and in datamining

Wew, pretty pathetic that they can just change the direction of the story/writing on a whim if they think it won't be palletable to their fanbase. I guess they're getting pretty desperate for player retention nowadays.

>>388665013
That's not even close though, the Army of the Light sets are way closer.

>>388646230
>nietzsche's superman is cool now

post modern morality has come full circle. this is retarded.

>>388665195

to be fair that story was utter shit, illidan still becomes the savior of the universe by becoming sargeras's jailer at the end of the antorus raid.

>>388660120
>Just don't get hard and you win.
who says someone's going to do anything with your dick?
you mean getting rammed up your asshole wouldn't be rape?
and while we're at it, unless you have willpower made of titanium, you would get hard if someone tickled your prostate a bit even if you had a picture of your naked grandma in front of you

>>388665438
I agree anon.

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Think that Illidan would have chosen the light if he got to tap Tyrande and cuck his brother?
Would seem a better deal for him.

>>388665013
That's not really close though senpai. In any case, you did answer my question and the answer is no.

Disappointing.

>>388665482
source?

>>388665438
He was always cool

>>388666268
Why does she look so shitty now

>>388666446

http://www.wowhead.com/news=267444/7-3-spoilers-analyzing-antorus-the-burning-throne-dialogue

Magni Bronzebeard: The tortured soul of Argus has been put to rest.
Illidan Stormrage: It matters not. We have lost. Look to the skies!
Prophet Velen: Sargeras will soon undo all we have fought for.
Voice of Amanthul: No.
Voice of Amanthul: We will use the last glimmer of Argus's power to bind him here. The Seat of the Pantheon shall become Sargeras's prison... and ours as well.
Prophet Velen: You would condemn yourselves to stop him?
Illidan Stormrage: Our world must survive... no matter the cost!
Voice of Amanthul: A sacrifice must be made.
Voice of Amanthul: Return home, children of Azeroth. Protect the final titan.
High Exarch Turalyon: Prophet... what happened out there?
Prophet Velen: Illidan serves as the Dark Titan's jailer. His sacrifice has ended the Legion. At long last, the Burning Crusade...is over.

>>388666493
old ass model, you can polish a turd only so much

>>388646230
>everyone thought uncorruption was going to be the big plot twist
>now the light is corrupt
Just how far will the corruption meme go?

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>>388666493
Atleast HotS is keeping to her true character.

>>388666268
Illidan is the one who got cucked.
Then he went into steroids
Got cucked and jailed again
Then run away crying to BT
Then BFTO while he was full autist speaking with a skull.

>>388666327
www.wowhead.com/news=267170/patch-7-3-argus-armor-sets

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What happens after the Legion is destroyed? What will Illidan do? He doesn't have any other goal except destroying the Legion, I feel like Illidan will die at the end of this arc. Also what was the actual prophecy? Illidan becomes some holy angelic being and leads Azeroth against the burning legion? Then what?

Frankly I don't agree with what that Na'aru was doing, like what happens if the prophecy is not fulfilled? Everyone dies? To me it seems like the light really just wants to control the universe and turns people into religious fanatics.

>>388661735

Ku'te, of course.

>>388667071
He'll be sargeras' maiev.>>388666646

>>388650384
it wasn't a good touch, it was a bad touch

>Sylvanas
>Abomination to the light so bad
>Suddenly light is also bad

So is Illidan going to team up with all the other edgelords?

>>388667071
>Legion, destroyed
Nah, Illidan becomes the jailer of ol' sargy, for all time. Without the leadership, or infrastructure, the Legion will eventually die out.

Also, the prophecy will happen, Illidan is destined to the end the Legion threat, no mention as to how.

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>>388651963

when is anduin going to get his kingpucci destroyed

>>388666646
Thought I'm not buying it, I could see this being ONE of the endings to this expansion. Just having Illidan became a jailer stuck on Argas, never to return to Azeroth.

Which chucklefuck told Voljin to put Sylvanas in charge?

>>388667416
The loa it's fucking old gods.

>>388667016
That's better, but still shit. Why the fuck wouldn't they give us that specific one from the trailer?

Fucking Blizzard I don't even play the game and they disappoint me.

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I'm pretty sure at this point we can save time making a list of games where God 'isn't' evil.

>>388665125

It was observed from the inception of the Naaru that they didn't really do anything for all the respect and authority that they commanded. Suspicions were cast by skeptics on roleplaying servers that it was more than likely that Naaru were overtly reliant on other races for survival, thus foreshadowing a darker overtone to the race's existence and methods.

Aside from that, the Light really was just another faction. In the original Warcraft the Church of the Holy Light was the reason the Dalarani mages were expelled from most Human kingdoms and founded the city in the first place.

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>>388667416

Blizzard is just pandering to sylvanas fanboys, there's literally no other reason.

Saurfang is my warchief.

I was sincerely hoping that he would lead the fight against the legion for the horde. The alliance could have had their velen bullshit and Varok could have been Broxxigar 2.0

Instead he just ages in orgrimmar.

>>388667861
lol

>>388667416
>>388667540

Voljins god is god of the dead.

So interpret that as you will.

Anyway Illidan was never child of light and shadow and it was Anduin or someone left field all along like Sylvanas or Jaina.

>>388667861

>saurfang for warchief

>literally an old motherfucker who will die in the next few expansions

Garrosh was our last hope and now that they nixxed him due to that same pandering to Alliancefags the Horde has no discernable future

>>388668008

He could have died like his brother Broxx this expansion and I would have been happy.

Why just let him age into obscurity even more?

>>388667738
For the Draenei at least, they saved their race from the burning legion.

I haven't followed wow lore much since the recent expacs, so I guess they must have started portraying the Naaru as being space angels of the light for all beings, rather than just a rightfully revered ally/benefactor to the Draenei

I honestly don't know why Sylvanas is so hated and it seems to always to boil down to "she's a bitch".

I don't even care for the character but she hasn't done anything that other characters hasn't done.

Do you think the next expansion will be alliance vs horde related? I can see Sylvanas doing some shit to piss off the alliance.

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>>388667861
>Sylvanas
>Having fans
She's only good for undead pussy though

>>388668008
Garrosh was nixed because of miscommunication and Metzen didn't like him

>>388668351
it boils down to Wrathgate in WotLK and the UC invasion to kill Putress

Why even play Paladins anymore? They're just mindless cunts enslaved to the demon light god.

>>388668396

All the normies who yell YASSS QUEEN SLAYYYY for danyris in game of thrones root for Sylvanas in the same way.

>>388668383

>pvp related expansion

No, Blizzard doesn't want to encourage that sort of thing anymore.

It's going to be old gods, it is inevitable. I fucking hate it, I would love a Gilneas vs Undercity expac

Fighting intergalactic demons and cthulu monsters of ever increasing strength is getting really fucking boring.

>>388668351
Because before Cata she constantly goes on about how she hates Arthas for turning her undead and wants revenge and then after Cata she starts killing humans and raising them as Forsaken to "preserve her race".
She's a total bitch.

>>388668513
To bait white knights and newbies who think they are fighting for God instead of magic wind chimes.

>>388668383
Old-god influenced horde-alliance conflict, with the two ladies ending up (or being tempted to) become old-god followers, jaina and sylvanas. Azshara will also rise from the seas and we'll fight her. (she'll have to rise, as no way in hell, will they make mechanics for underwater expansion)

However, out of the two tempted, only jaina will give in. Sylvanas is too popular to be killed. You're an idiot if you can't see that.

>orcs are evil for choosing to side with fel demons
>humans are evil for choosing to side with light demons
>only Illidan is pure enough to lead both sides to salvation

Do we deserve Illidan?

>>388668513
So? They've always had a pretty good story to them, and this Xe'ra turn is a pretty neat way of going forward

>>388646708

t.12 year old that didn't live enough

we are defined by our experienes, the sum of all that we endured, suffered and loved makes us our present selves

>>388667416

Sylvanas is literally the waifu of the guy who designed Legion's quests and narrative.

>>388668785

>illidan won't become a boss again later after absorbing Sargeras' power and taking over the reigns of the Burning Crusade.

>>388668485
The hypest moment in Wotlk that she wasn't even responsible for.

Okay.

>>388668572
So it's actually because she's afraid of dying cause she goes to the void when she dies. I guess that's a legitimate reason to dislike her. Although I remember some idiots think she goes to the shadowlands.

I feel they'll pull some soul saving 180 bullshit on her character later.

>>388668682
I don't really remember what Sylvanas did besides get appointed warchief and get BTFO by Greymane. Jaina at least grew as a character as she went from a peaceful hippie to an alliance zealot and I appreciate her for that, just don't kill her off or actually go with the dreadlord meme.

>>388650365
>>388650515
>>388650801
I can hear it
I CAN HEAR IT

>>388668939
That doesn't make sense, she's not even in legion besides three quests. Tyrande is in it more.

>>388649070
They're just scars, bro.
No need to kill an ally over them.

>>388646230
>The fate of Xel'Naga

FUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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>>388669123
I hate blizzard.

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>>388668992

With legion ending I think we're pretty safe with her not being a Dreadlord.

>tfw Jaina goes to Kul Tiras to rally troops to attack the horde
>Next expansion is an Alliance vs Horde Expansion in which there are naval battles on the open ocean
>Guilds get boats to control, can board enemy guild ships, steal their booty and kill everyone on board

>it's a the church is evil episode

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>>388668959
>I feel they'll pull some soul saving 180 bullshit on her character later.

At this point I'm half convinced that her endgame is going to be some Valkyr-like entity.

>>388668992
Anon, listen here. Players are good guys. Axiomatically. Ergo, someone who wants to end the opposite faction (Jaina) has to be a bad guy.
Also, again, Sylvanas not doing anything doesn't mean something. She's still, very, VERY popular. She's not going anyway.

>but sylvanas raises dead
So what? Wanting her species to not die out by rezzing a couple nameless npcs doesn't mean she wants the alliance gone for good. It's not the same case as Jaina.

>>388668805

>They've always had a pretty good story to them

Except their whole story is a lie.

>Humans became demons of light in WC1 and WC2 and are just as evil as the orcs in doing so
>Humanity was being judged for its hubris in WC3 with the strong imbalance in the Light and their justifications for enslaving and exterminating the orcs
>Ashbringer is really the horrific enslavement of the essence of a Naaru by murderous humans to create the ultimate killing weapon
>the Naaru took advantage of Illidan's PTSD and created a situation in the Outlands to trick Azeroth into fighting Illidan, using the lives of civilians as bait
>the triumph over the Lich King was a complete delusion, a massive plot forged by slaves to the Light make the creatures of Azeroth its slaves
>the Light continued its campaign of extermination on Draenor 2, using you as a tool to carry out a 'justified' genocide against the orcs once again
>now this

>it's another "Illidan ruins everything for everyone because he's a self-righteous edgelord" episode

So here's the actual deal, Sylvanas and Jaina have both been enthralled by old gods to propagate and cause the alliance and horde to fight each other and the next expansion will have the player restore them to normal where they'll return to Wotlk personalities.

>>388669336
>she doesn't want the alliance gone for good

Oh I guess developing plagues and shit to murder literally everybody doesn't mean shit.

>>388669197
>each player gets their own capital ship
>it's the new garrison
Prepare to send your followers on missions to get wind for your ship and grind wood to build more stuff on it.

>>388669476

no shut up thats gay

>>388655427
Velen's slowly turning into a pissy emo child like Illidan and KJ. He's just mad that the Naaru can't solve all his problems for him despite repeatedly bailing his entire civilization out of trouble.

>>388646230
Would be so much better without the toddler proportions.

>>388668943

He won't. They set Illidan up to basically break previously established lore. Now Anduin Wrynn is getting whispers from the Void, doubting the prophecy that mentions him as the leader of the Light. Anduin will become corrupted and lead the army of the Void, tricked into 'freeing' the universe from both the Light and the Fel.

And Illidan will be the hero who will help you stop him in a raid battle.

>>388669248
If she turns into a awesome Valkyr design I definitely want her as a raid boss.

Where dead players are raised as adds.

>>388660120
If a woman orgams during rape, her tits get stiff or her vagina gets wet : it's not rape.

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>>388646708


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCiFO7qV54E

>>388669408
it's just a force, like fel or shadow or arcane or whatever, it's not inherently good or bad but what you do with it

>>388668571
>Fighting intergalactic demons and cthulu monsters of ever increasing strength is getting really fucking boring.
This.

>This horrible evil force threatens our world.
>Good job heroes, you've saved us all.
>This new horrible evil force that's even stronger than the last one threatens our world!
>Good job heroes, you've saved us all again.
>This new even more horrible evil force-

Yawn. I hate this style of writing.
>The new big bad is bigger and badder than the last big bad.
That's not good writing in the slightest and I hate that this is what Warcraft has been reduced to. I think the general idea of MoP is what we need, just without the shitty execution. You know, there's shit going on, but there isn't a bad guy more powerful than the last hellbent on world domination. There doesn't need to be some world threatening big bad for something to be entertaining. But nope, that takes too much work, just throw in a bigger badder villain.

>>388646230

What happened to Blizzard's animators? They used to put out quality content. This looks so shitty.

>>388669463
>developing plagues
Is no different from developing weapons, magic and that shit. Everyone has weapons to fight each other, plagues aren't somehow less acceptable as weapons than a sword or a fireball.

Wtf i just saw that dreadlord that looks like a retarded light-angel dreadlord.

Is that really a fucking thing in the lore?

>>388668959
well, she wasn't responsible for it. they got agitated that alliance members were being experimented on in the UC when they invaded to kill putress. also, she used the gas putress made against the worgen to some degree in Cata. I think Cata should be completely ignored when it comes to any of the Lore characters considering that none of the characters acted like themselves and everything before and after that expac seemed completely contrary to their character. But it's will always boil down the Wrathgate and anybody who prefers alliance will always point to it or bring it up.

>>388669564
Look at Illidan's grin. He knows. He knows Velen has done or will do some really fucked up shit for the sake of the prophecy. And I think, in a way, the grin is like a compliment
>My boy Velen, I didn't know you had such a dark side to you. You're not a total boyscout after all, I'm impressed

>>388669959
whats wrong with it

>>388669932
Don't argue with muh plague fags.
They forget when the blood elves developed a nuke so powerful it kills people in multiple dimensions at once.


Actually that was kind of neat.

>>388669476
>get wind
*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

>>388669408
>Implying orc genocide is bad

>>388670112
I want Sylvanas to give up her warchief position to Lothremar. It'd show her not to be a total cunt, she was chosen to be warchief in a rash moment and only for the sake of the war, but she's not good for peace time.
Lothremar needs to shine.

>>388669816

Its a force with an army of its own minions. And its minions have been manipulating the history of Azeroth the entire time. If the orcs never came to Azeroth, the 'priests' of Northshire Abbey would be no better than fringe cultists - doing the bidding of their wayward god of Light in manipulating humanity to do its bidding.

>>388651578
>Young metzen
I agree WoW had really good lore, stories and characters. some weird stuff happened in cata but was redeemed in MoP but literally right after MoP ended it dropped into a canyon with WoD. I honestly have no hope for the series anymore. I was Fun, magical and cool before but now its just stupid

>>388670240

If theres nothing wrong with orc genocide for allying with demons, then theres nothing wrong with human genocide for allying with the Naaru.

>>388669959
Don't shittalk Lothraxion you faggot.

>>388664753
Turalyon is a pretty big deal for the alliance so he is in Unique model and armor tier.

>>388669909
It looks the same.

>>388670010
You're right I think about Cata. It messed up the writing with so many characters.

If they just changed Sylvanas from raising humans into undead into restoring minds of already mindless undead.

Then make her legion plot about trying to free the undead from Odyn and Helyas command. There then she'd be a consistent character in her goals.

>>388670403
>implying it's justified genocide for allying with demons
>implying it's not justified because they're filthy disgusting orcs that need to die

>>388646230
Lore fuckery aside, I prefere this over the retardation that would have been "light Illidan" or wahtever.

Like...I kind of get his point that it may be up to *just us* not some mystical overlords to save the day, but what a poorly written overreaction on both sides. Why destroy something that we could at least use to help us?

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>>388670318

This is how I feel about it.

I still really love the world and most of the lore, but I don't like how it's been handled for the past few expansions.

For now it's just a nice playground to trot out some autism on RP servers. I try not to think too much about "big picture" lore.

>>388670304
>its bidding.
Which is to eradicate the Void Lords whose only goal is to torment all living things.
And that makes it evil somehow.

>>388670609

Humans are just as filthy, and the canon proves it now.

>>388669932

There's actually a huge difference between them

>>388670112

The Blood Elves doing something evil doesn't cancel out Sylvanas doing something evil .

I'd forgive Blizzard for everything if they let Orcs stand up straight.

>>388670709
Honestly they already had an interesting angle with the Naaru which is that when they die they temporarily become void creatures themselves.

Making the light side evil too just seems redundant.

>>388667107
this

>>388670825
That was Garrosh though. Everyone loves him.

Not that I'm complaining he's the best orc.

>>388670709

Yes, that makes it evil. Because in Warcraft, the only good guys is the society of multi-racial multi-dimensional multi-cultural peoples who can accept their differences to leave peaceably with each other.

Pop quiz: name the void-based race which has already allied to your multi-ethnic coalition of Illidan Nation.

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>there will never be a Gnome and Goblin inventor faction that gets shit done

>>388650365
Stop it please.
You remind of the Warcraft 4 im still waiting for.

>>388670929

I liked Garrosh too. I don't mind if they do evil things, I just think it's retarded when people try to rationalize them. Accept what you are.

>>388670825
in a world with warlocks, death knights, arcane multi-dimensional nukes? No, there isn't.

>>388670403
The Naaru haven't really done anything

>>388670931
>>Pop quiz: name the void-based race which has already allied to your multi-ethnic coalition of Illidan Nation.
Ethereals? Arakkoa?

>>388671067

All of those things are undeniably evil.

>>388671146
The plague is no more evil than these and these are acceptable as means of war by both alliance and horde. So plague is also okay.

>>388670931
The enslaved void walkers :^)

>>388671113

Do warlock summons count? Voidwalkers are the only thing I can think of.

I thought etherals were arcane based.

>>388671225

>two wrongs make a right

No, they don't.

>>388671234
it's both, argus confirms this

>>388671339
Right and wrong is defined by alliance and horde though, since the players are axiomatically good.

>>388671225
>>388671339
>>388671443

Plague by the Undead is just the equivalent of blood corruption by demons, soul corruption by the void, and thought corruption by the Light.

>>388671234
Arcane Ethereals are relatively good guys.
Void Ethereals are bad guys but they don't serve the Void Lords as far as I know.

Any chance the Blood Knights will make a comback after all of this? They had the right idea.
I say we round up and enslave all of the naaru to use them as light batteries.

i just put my finger up my butt and smelled it

it smelled like this writing

>>388671783

Slavery is bad. Illidan thinks so because he was 12 years a demon slave.

Would the void gods being revealed to be, if not fully good guys, at the very least fun loving chaotic entities who wanted to give people free will and have been sealed in the dark beyond by the naaru be a good development?

>>388671783

Just get every Death Knight to respec to blood. There, you got Blood Knights now

>>388668682
>>388668992
I can see Jainas being a villain in the next expansion, she outright hates the horde more than anyone else.

>>388671943
I think we're going full Elric. The "law gods" are well-meaning but despotic and the chaos beings are violent and crazy but promise a good time while the world burns.

>>388671901
Yeah it definitely smells like coconut oil.

>>388671943

>Sargeras is Khorn
>Void god is Slaaneesh

>>388671968

Jainas is certifiably a villain now, based on the "Illidan's heroic ideals" scale

>human manipulator
>supporter of the pro-Light regime of Lordaeron
>advocates racism
>advocates genocide

But on the upside

>+understands the importance of emotional scars and life experiences

>>388672045
That's a good theory.
Especially considering that the Old Gods turned Titan constructs into weak fleshy things that could eat, drink and fuck.

>>388672086
l-lewd

>>388658959
>leak stuff to see reaction then change is necessary
That would be really smart, too smart for blizzard.

>>388672315

They knew everyone hated that shit since they released the illidan novel

>>388672221

>Balance is being a weak fleshy thing that just eats, drinks, and fucks for most of its life

Thats we're we at in Warcraft, because good and evil is too boring.

>>388650384
,':^)

>Brainlets in /v/ are slower than MMO-Champion posters
>Still haven't caught on that this entire time Blizzard has been implying the same shit that XIV did in that the "Light" is not good, its merely an alternative to the Void
>Both seek to control people who worship it by offering power through submission

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>>388646230
I always knew Illidan was the best thing azeroth could have happened to it.

>>388671001
Has sleep dulled my senses?

>>388651691
The better question is, are those subtitles in a text file that can be patched or are they part of the render?

>>388651963
Its really hard to write anything for the Horde, They are simple people who do very preditable things, To make them interesting you have to make them do completely retarded shit to stir the pot up,

Meanwhile the Alliance can just have bullshit bureaucracy be the main drive for their stories.

It actually feels kind of weird that Illidan turned down more power
Taking as much as he could to protect the world is kind of his thing, why did Xe'ra have to be such a cunt about his scars?

>>388672436
It's a hokey direction to take that expects us to forget everything we know about Draenei civilization. They're the most light-worshipping race in the game and they're not out to conquer the universe. Most of their history has been deliberately isolationist. They don't even fight back until severely pressed.

Blizzard are hacks.

>>388672392
>>388672221
>>388672045
I had a revelation. The conflict is the choice between "pure" machine/metal constructs and fleshy chaotic beings.

The wise choice is the fleshy ones, because the constructs can't make something new. When you create/construct, you already know all the construct can make. There is no true progress, no evolution, no expansion of knowledge. All that the construct has known is already known to the creator.

But when it comes to birthing, the parent doesn't know all the child can do. The child can go beyond. It's the right way.

Who's that naaru

I quit after killing xavius

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>>388646230
Statists and leftists BTFO.
Illidan is Ancap baby,
Get you fucking Light off my Scars!

>>388672436

That was not a narrative until relatively recently. The Void was merely hell, a consequence of existence that remains in the backdrop while the material conflict between good, or the free sentient races of the galaxy and their allies i.e. the Naaru i.e. the Light, and evil, or the demonic armies of the Burning Legion backed by Sargeras who would end all free will in the galaxy.

Now the Void is the true enemy and every game since WC1 is a fucking sideshow by Light slaves and Fel slaves trying to turn Azeroth people into its pawns.

>>388662559
>druids best class in WoW
>druids best class hearthstone
>druids best class for porn
Can any other class even compete?

>>388672848
It's... [\spoiler]your mom

>>388673028
nice spoiler nerd

Is solo'ing old content fun?

GODDAMN ALLERIA IS SO HOT

I WANT TO PUT A BABY IN HER UNDEAD SISTER

>>388673124
no

Now that Lord Illidan has established that Undead have the right to live like everyone else, do you agree that making more undead out of people who have already died is morally acceptable as a form of reproduction?

>>388672982
please help with druid porn

I think I've seen everything but there must be more

>>388672392
>we defeat the Void Lords
>the Titans say we are the only remnant of Old God corruption so they have to turn us back into constructs to preserve order in the universe
>except we like being chaotic pieces of shit so we beat the shit out of them too
>the end

>>388673305
As long as its consensual I don't see why not.

>>388673305
No, It goes against nature and the natural order of things, Same reason why immortality is bad but with more stds.

>>388646230
>light is evil
At least we're probably not gonna fight demons again after this expansion

>>388673334
http://imgur.com/a/D05vQ

Most people go right to bear and cat form for porn, but they have so much more to offer than just those. Way more smut versatility than other classes.

Thinking about re-subbing back to wow. I came back for the launch of legion and played for about a month. Should i go back to playing my nelf demon hunter or make a death knight on the horde side?

Truthfully I don't particualrly agree with either side and only do shit with/for them for plot convienience. Which is the bigger "fuck you i do my own shit" class, death knights or demon hunters?

>>388673661
Demon Hunters
Death Knight may as well just be a third faction

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Just finished the WC3 campaign again.
Are night elves the worst race in the universe?
Have the ability to regenerate forests,Cenarius even doing it instantly.
>WE CAN'T LET THEM HAVE OUR FORESTS
Overhear both humans and orcs having a dialogue about how there are demons and undead coming
>THEY'RE HERE TO TAKE OUR FORESTS !
Who gives a shit about their forest?!
>BUT IT'S ENCHANTED
Yeah,that's why Cenarius uses it as cannon fodder
I've also always hated the night elf campagin both in RoC and TFT. I might be biased

>>388673661
Legion is still pretty bad. It's still just grind WQs, grind dungeons, grind out AP, pray for good leggos.

>>388673661
As a dh player, I say death knight. Havoc needs very high item level to solo most, but not all stuff. And vengeance had low dps but can't die.

>>388673661
>Which is the bigger "fuck you i do my own shit" class, death knights or demon hunters?
Death Knights are by far the edgiest of the two as far their class campaigns go, but its sort of implied that you're being subtly mind controlled by the Lich King.
Demon Hunters pretty much do whatever they want and are the closest to being true neutral.

>>388673849
>Havoc needs very high item level to solo most, but not all stuff.
Really?
I felt like I was still steamrolling everything using the demonic build even during the earlier parts of the expac. If anything I would say Havoc DH is the absolute perfect solo class.

>>388666646
who's this Final Titan ?

>>388674074
Azeroth

>>388674074
Azeroth

>>388673817
Yeah they were MASSIVE shits in the WC3 campaign, but that's kind of the point
That's why the end of RoC was them sucking it up and nuking their own shit

>>388673985
I meant soloing dungeons, those named elites with up 65m hp and stuff like that. Of course you steamroll everything trash.

Is leveling fun anymore, or should I just use up the instant level up thing?

>>388674124
>>388674136
Good thing I stopped playing this shit years ago.

>>388672759
Bruh, the horde campaign from warcraft 3 is all you need.

>>388672821
PAY ATTENTION TO MY REVELATION, FAGS

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>Play Paladin but don't really think about it as being absolute good

Can't be the only one, blind faith is no better than being an old god worshipping nut

Be your own person, actions make the man

>the home of all the demons is an actual planet

>>388646230
THERE IS NO CHOSEN ONE

>WE

gotta love how they always try to hint that the players have to fight and not them for the "greater good"

lol this writing is shit

>>388674452

>Be your own person, actions make the man

Then junk your paladin and play warrior or demon hunter.

The Naaru went from not speaking a word to full blown english, also what was turalyon doing the whole time? Flying around space in spaceships?

>>388674604

Making an alt at this point I would sooner chug bleach

Just finished the retribution artefact enhancing quests. On one hand, it enrages me that paladins have to do warriors' hand me down quests, but on the other that she-hulk Sygrin made my dick erect.

>>388674362
Horde always just goes with the motions,
>Shit we lost our home
>Guess we go to another continent
>Some humie tells us to go fight the Legion
>Fuck it nothing better to do
>Lets settle in a sterile desert

>>388674452
Paladins have never really been black and white as far as morality goes in WoW anyways.
Just look at the Scarlet Crusade for example. It doesn't really matter what you're doing but as long as you believe yourself to be just then the light is with you.

Wait did they bring back Alleria?

>>388674906
malgor is lush as fuck what are you on about

>>388650882
It'd work but he lasered her before she came in his skin.

Make up my mind for me /v/, should I roll paladin or dk for tanking?