>no DRM >no publishers >no lootboxes >no microtransactions

But how are you gonna play videogames when you live in a hut? lmao

idk I didn't think 599 US DORRAR was too good, why I would want that but everywhere?

>>388622071
>only indieshit
>japanese market ceases to exist
>nobody makes games
doesn't seem that way to me, anon

you forgot no creativity

>>388622071
Tetris was made in Soviet Russia. All right were taken away from person who made it. Almost no one else bothered to make games, because why?

>>388622236
But soviet russia wasn't real communism ;^)

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The video game industry in socialism would be as thriving as gay communities in Arabic countries.

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>>388622283

>>388622186
But anon, it would all be creativity. Without the need for profits there would be no dumbed down focus tested open world trash

>>388622236
>>388622146
>implying that real socialism in a first world country would look anything like a totalitarian reigime masquerading as a socialist one like the USSR

>>388622389
>But anon, it would all be creativity. Without the need for profits there would be no dumbed down focus tested open world trash
This sums up why socialists are retarded.

>>388622389
>>388622236
Soviet Russia was real socialism, Trots are faggots

>>388622389
>it would be all creativity
Good fucking luck holding a team together over some shared bond of creativity, anon.

>>388622375
>>388622283
>>388622236
>"COMMUNISM IS THE SAME AS SOCIALISM!!"
You retards are Americans, aren't you?

>>388622146
Anon, houses predate capitalism.

>>388622481
>indie games dont exist

Socialism never works for design based businesses and industries like video games. If the government controls all workers and all production then all creativity will suffer, if you've ever had a bad experience at a government building, it's because the government knows you have to use it. get a job commie

>>388622146
More like how are you gonna play video games when you're starving because the state decided you don't need any food this month

Syndicalism or fascism > socialism
>implying you can actually get to communism
LOL

>>388622536
Now watch him pretend like most indiefags have a hope of ever turning a profit.

>no money to buy a console or computer
>no one makes games because it's not productive
>the existing games are tetris and atari2600 like
you forgot these retard

>>388622536
Indie games already exist under our capitalist system you twat

>>388622615
>starts a SJW thread
>gets turbomad when people don't like your bs
classic moralfag.

I'd be more concerned feeding myself than playing games in a communist shithole.

>>388622661
Just follow the rules please.

>>388622631
So the only victim of a non-capitalist system would be AAA?
What's the problem here?

>>388622724
>>>/reddit/

>>388622724
Do you go into porn threads and kvetch about that, too? Fag.

>>388622071

This has to be the most retarded thing I've read in months.

I'm speechless.

>>388622734
>I don't like AAA games
>therefore nobody else can have AAA games. Society should change for me and only me.
I don't think you understand socialism very well, anon

>>388622071
Who exactly makes games under pure socialism?
No really who? The smart get out as soon as possible, the few that stay get killed as per usual, and everyone poor fool to brilliant scientist is basically getting the same amount of money... so again who would even make games?

>>388622769
No, just pol threads actually. Please go to your designated containment board.

How about leaving politics and do games with its own story and objetives with no bullshit like decades ago? You didn't see this kind of stupid shit in any ame, complany or platform in the 90's and 00's.

>>388622504
The next thing you're going to tell us is that communism has never been tried besides some faggy French commune.

>>388622734
That you're failing to grasp there would be no indie scene at all.

GOD DAMNIT I KEEP FORGETTING TO PUT SAGE THREADS IN THE OPTIONS FIELD

>>388622375
>american education

>>388622775
Its from neogaf so it shouldn't surprise you.

>>388622071
>Anon you don't need more than 2 hours of videogames per day
>Now go back to work like a slave in the factory while I write random 2deep4u thoughts
>Don't worry I don't pay you so it's not wageslavery

Gaming can't be good under both systems if it's popular and not made for kids and classic nerds

>>388622841
>any ame, complany
any game, company*

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>>388622071
and no games

you forgot that part

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>>388622818
Well, he's making the argument that socialism would kill AAA games, and I'm asking what the problem is there.
I don't even agree with him, but it's not like AAA is worth a shit anyway.
>>388622852
Why?

>>388622818
He understands socialism perfectly well. It's all about entitlement and feeling you should get more from less.

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>>388622071

>mfw commie dicksuckers now have the balls to crawl out of their holes in this day and age

We should have wiped them all out along with the fascists.

F2p games like LoL, Dota2, csgo are pretty socialist already.
People with more money support the developer much more than people with less money and even a completely poor 3rd worlder can enjoy playing the game by leeching from the people who do pay for stuff.

>>388622504
explain the key differences if you dare, my fellow
i promise to read and respond to your post and not skirt off to watch a movie

>>388623053
Reminder that the Cold War wouldn't have had to be fought if we'd just teamed up with Hitler.

>>388622987
The problem is that many people do enjoy AAA games.

>>388622375
>>388622894
I'm from Spain :^)

>>388622071
There would be no video games under socialism, just like bountiful harvests.
>>388622504
Socialism is the first step to Communism. - Vladimir Lenin

>>388622389
You're absolutely right, which is why the Soviet Union, the Khmer Rouge, Fidel's Cuba, and Maoist China were such bastions of free thinking and unrestrained creativity.

>>388622071
under socialism, there is no gaming.

>>388623139
The soviet union funded great art you retard, such as andrei tarkovsky

>>388623117

>team up with one group of scumbags so we can fight

Nah. The mistake was not putting them all in the same grave.

>>388622389
There will never be "real" socialism, you retard. Someone will always gather the masses and rise to the top. No one will ever be perfect.

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If you enact socialism/communism nobody will stick around to produce anything for zero net profit, they'll just go to countries that don't abide by socialism/communism, leading to a brain drain and turning your communist/socialist country into a poverty-stricken brain-drained shit hole.

This is the real reason why you fags want every country to be communist/socialist. You want to ensure no one can escape your shitty failed ideology, figuring "if the entire world is communist/socialist and there's nowhere to flee, maybe one of them will be prosperous!" You would doom the entire planet just to test your dumb theories, presumably because like Marx you're a lazy sociopath.

>>388623202

>fight another*

>>388622071
>no DRM
More like more DRM, but DRM that means you can only play government mandated games.

>no publishers
True

>no lootboxes
True

>no microtransactions
True

>no casualization
There would be more. As all games have to be equally accessible to everybody.

>no exclusives
All games are exclusive now

>all digital games free
And all crap, devoid of creativity and government mandated and censored

>we live in an age where socialists and communists run amok
why can't all you cancer just fuck off to canada and yurop

>>388623202
Well, I'm sorry to have to be the one to tell you but one of those groups of scumbags was measurably less bad than the other and it wasn't the Soviets.

>>388622987
Indie studios count as self-employment.
That concept does not exist in socialism.

>>388623296

I don't tolerate cockroaches just because there are rats crawling around.

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The only thought these bloody communists have produced is pondering whether to eat their own children or not.

>>388622504
I'm from poland

>>388622071
>all these American liberals with no understanding of Marx or Socialism
Christ

>>388623053
If that commie fuck FDR didn't allow Pearl Harbor to happen, the world would have been better off. Nazis would have wiped out themselves along with the commies and we'd be living in a golden age.

Games would be one of the first things to go. No point in frivolous bullshit when everyone's starving.

>>388622071
reminder that no political system perfect because it will ALWAYS end up being an oligarchy if it last long enough
the best you can expect from one is giving the most amount of resources for the most people while remaining stable for the longest time possible (something between 100 and 200 years)

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>>388623462

>>388623367
The capitalists teamed up with the communists because the rivalry and proxy warfare was intensely profitable.
The fascists were right, and were the only ones interested in actually stopping the Soviets.

>>388623201
Hard to praise that when your population is threatened with a trip to the gulags.

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>>388623564
>The fascists were right

Goose stepping scumbag detected.

Socialism doesn't work and will never work until we achieve a post-scarcity society. All it does is empower the state itself and creates oligarchs that horde the riches with no means of economically upsetting their stranglehold. It's modern feudalism.

>trying to shill communism in /v/ of all places

This is a fool's errand. This place is 99% corporate dick suckers.

>>388623564
The capitalists teamed up with the communists because option number three synthesized the two into something that wasn't nearly as shitty.
>dude what if we just like don't be dogmatic retards and use economics as a tool to get what we want
>OMG NO BAD GOY

>>388623462
It's party because American conservatives continually decry any centrist politics as "socialism". Most American liberals are centre/centre-left, but they believe they're socialists because they're told they are.

>>388622769
If its a SFW board then yeah

>>388623462
What do you expect from a country who unironically think Fascim and Nazism are the same thing

>>388623656
Commie enabling cuck. Churchill and FDR got more people killed than Stalin and Hitler combined.

>>388623676
>Socialism doesn't work and will never work until we achieve a post-scarcity society.

Thus allowing socialism to create scarcity and remind us why socialism is bad

>>388623680
As opposed to a government dick sucker serving a lifetime sentence in a gulag for wrongthink?

>>388623680
>/v/ constantly decrys corporate jewry time and time again
>but when it comes to capitalism they're suddenly good goys
why?

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Do you know why games now a days are shit?
1) They are made for kids and you guys are adults
2) You NEED to make profit

That is why we have so many DLCs, microtransactions and things like that.
When you don't need to make profit, you do what you like, so games would be more like art.

>>388623808

we like having food

>>388623742
One is a variant of the other desu
>n-no we're falangists/national syndicalists/legionaries/whateverthefuck
>>388623808
Communism is just letting those same kikes into the government though.

>>388623278
>And all crap, devoid of creativity
so that stays the same?

>>388623105
>explain the key differences if you dare, my fellow
communism is alcohol
socialism is diet coke

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>>388623251
haha nice

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I come from a socialist country and it sucks fucking dick.

>60% income tax
>20% tax on literally every good in stores because fuck you
>340% tax on gas
>dog taxes
>alcohol taxes
>energy taxes
>water taxes

From my entire income I maybe have 10% left for myself. And that's used up for the rent.

>>388622389
You're right, it would loik like nazi germany.

>>388623808
It's better to stick with the evil you know and understand. You can actually plan around people who are actively looking out for their best interests. It's harder to deal with people who pretend to be your friend while destroying you slowly.

>>388623689
It's party because Europeon leftists continually decry any centrist politics as "fascism". Most American "fascists" are center/center-right, but Europeons believe they're fascists because they're told they are.

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>>388622302

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>>388623962

>>388623840
Unless your name is Rachmaninoff you are not creating art under socialist roofs, unless you are talking about how shitty starving to death is.

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>>388622071
This thread needs Pinochet and VIDEOGAMES! you commie faggots

>>388623251
Whereas fascism it's literally just "You don't like it? Fuck off then, we'll literally help you leave the country."
Hmmm. I wonder why that difference might exist. Really gets the mind working.

>>388624048
No, that reversal doesn't work at all. You guys are the ones with the radicalised 2 party system, not us.

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>>388623962
kill yourself
>>>/leftypol/

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>>388624058
this is now a stirner thread

pic related is my steam spray

>>388623964
NOT REAL SOCIALISM

>>388624048
Almost correct, but they use the meaningless term "hard right" instead.

>>388624154
You're right, you have a one party system of leftist socialists who range from very far left to far left.

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>>388624184

>stirner

>left
>right
>center
>being on the political autism spectrum at all

>>388624154
There's only one party in America, though. There's no significant difference other than timetable and methodology between Democrat and Republican.

>>388623808
most of them are actually just yellous of the jewish ways and wish they could money grub just as hard

>>388622071
Too bad you'll be too busy working 14 hours a day for the motherland

>>388622071
No new cooking mama tho

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>socialist society
>games now have a 450% tax so no one can afford them
>the resources needed to make games are equally as expensive, as they are state-owned
>the only way to create a game is to be employed by the state to make games
>but nobody can afford games and they "take attention away from more important things that could benefit the nation"
>the government hires exactly one company (read: badly-disguised government branch) to produce games
>and by games I mean exactly one game
>because it's 100% managed by the government it's blatant statist propaganda
>it focuses more on teaching stupid moral lessons than being fun or creative
>nobody would ever buy it (not that they could) so this game is placed in an art gallery
>people visit to come see this game but never play it, so really it's more like a movie
>anyone who tries to make their own games without government support is deemed a radical and sent to a gulag
>video games are dead and their corpse is propped up in a museum
>just like glorious Lenin

>>388622723
Remind me again, why did we kill this guy?

>>388622375
>slavs
>innocent
>chinks
>innovation
>SEAmonkeys
>innocent
Good one

>>388624471
Might be something to do with him going on an expansionist rampage. Dunno tho, I'd need to double check.

>People actually believe video games would exist under socialism

>>388624471
People will reply with "muh holocaust" and "muh war of aggression" but, uh, basically because Churchill's handlers wanted us to

>>388623751
prove it right now

>>388624471
I'm pretty sure the guy who killed Hitler was a Nazi

>>388623964
at least all your needs are met hnn?
i mean you can petition your gubmint for assistance and they wont hassle you will they?
im genuinely curio

>>388623964
Me too. But since I got free education and isn't a failure my job pays 65k nok a month. Bills and taxes paid and I have 33k a month to use. No loans or debt.

Guess we're not born equal :^)

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>>388624612
Oh, hey, actually I'm wrong, they only got as many people as Hitler killed if you just count the Cold War.
Honestly you could also pin all deaths under Communism post-WWII on them as well, but I included Stalin so that's not necessarily fair.

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>>388623251
>This is the real reason why you fags want every country to be communist/socialist.
The actual reason seems to be that these people want to move up in the world without working for it.

Speak to someone who genuinely thinks communism would be a good idea. Ask how his/her life would change if communism got implemented overnight.

>>388622723
While this is a nice quote it's still bullshit given that Hitler got into power with the following topics.
>Gun control
>Higher Tax Rates
>Organized work force based politics.
He literally did everything socalism promised to do, including genocide.

>>388624250
No, that's not correct either.

>>388624685
For all the bad things Hitler did he still killed Hitler gotta give him that.

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>>388622389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsZJ0fJpLPc

I know muh Peterson but relevant

>>388624926
sorry, extreme far left and very far left.

>>388625005
Actually flawless logic.

>>388624808
so youre saying those people the cia helped revolute didnt willingly go along with the plot?

>>388625062
America, just stop talking, Christ

>>388624853
You know that the NSDAP allied with the conservative party, right? And that the system of work fascism proposes is quantitatively different from the one that Marxism proposes.
As for guns, I have to wonder if Hitler literally ran on taking guns from Jews because if he did that'd be fucking hilarious.

>>388624693
>petition for gubmint for assistance

No. Both my parents died while I was 17 while I was still in school. I had no relatives where I could move to. I pledged for money so I can continue my school and go to work a year later or so. They didn't gave me any. I had to move to an orphanage for a year. On top of that, paying for two funerals is pretty fucking expensive. All the money my parents saved up for me had to be spent on the funerals.

Nobody helped me. Reason? I was already at the age of working at that time and haven't worked and paid taxes. That's why I wasn't elligible for money. If I had been a literal retard or some minority with 8 children I probably would have gotten money. But I didn't. And now I pay easily 90% of my income for fucking taxes and can't save up shit for retirement. Btw they are reducing the goverment funded pension money. So I probably have to work until 67 until I'm eligible for state money. Isn't that great? Socialism is for the little people.

>>388625062
No. If you're interested in European politics, try some sources that aren't /pol/.

>>388622504
Americans can only do extremes so obviously if the US of A tried socialism they'd go full Soviet.

>>388625178
tough break...you consider traitoring to another country?

>>388624853
It's just one of those things, where people really really don't want to admit that fascism is simply the natural evolution of socialism. Shit, it was started in Italy by Marxist fanboys pushing for stuff like women voting, labor unions, minimum wage, etc. Forcing people to be concerned with what they've decided is the greater good is the very core of leftism. There's not much difference between Fascism and Communism other than what they decided the "problem" was that needed correcting.

>>388625280
I tried to move to Japan like the good weeb I am but couldn't get a permanent visa because I have no bachelors degree since I had to get off from school and start working.

>>388625181
Sure, I'll try your rags like the Guardian, Telegraph and BBC.

>>388625141
Yurop, just stop talking, Christ

>>388625178
>suffering under capitalism
>"FUCK SOCIALISM!"
What a genius you are.

>>388625171
No fucking shit the system of power of facism and marxism is different, one requires conquering a failed society through political and social upheaval. One is from the love of violence to protect ones nation.
The end goal and how it started doesn't make the road not made of tarmac. Hitler still had a socialist society.

>>388625415
Happy reading, anon. I hope you learn something. There are also many great academic sources.

>>388625352
Fascists are usually pretty open about it being the descendant of socialism. It's commies and capitalists that want to push it off on each other.
>n-no it's socialism
>n-nuh-uh it's capitalism

>>388623767
>Socialism
>Create

>>388624828
>God I have it so bad working this video game blogging job all I want is more money and power. My parents aren't helping me live in San Fran, most expensive city in the universe, they suck.
>If we had communism I'd get tons of free money that I'm totally deserving of.

>>388625424
I am proven to have an iq of 172. I believe that is genius level, yes.

>>388624853
Embarrassing.

>>388625441
Why would a capitalist have any problem calling out facism/socalism?

>>388625489
>Fascists are usually pretty open about it being the descendant of socialism.
Pretty sure they want to put socialists in camps actually

>>388625178
You're a lying sack of shit. Tell me, what socialist country do you live in?

>>388625429
Not the system of power, literally how the entire society is conceived to work is different.
It's socialist insofar as it's communitarian and not ALL INDIVIDUALS ALL THE TIME like liberalism but fascism is more like a guild system than "dude the state literally does everything and runs everything and doles shit back to the people."

>>388625616
>>388625489
Whoops lol

>>388625705
Alright, makes sense.

>>388625684
And communists did the same thing with uneager socialists.

>>388625593
I think you're proven to be an idiot who took an "IQ test" on facebook and believed it

>>388625684
If they don't convert over, yeah.
>>388625616
A commie would ask the same question because they want fascism to be deformed capitalism and not a synthesis.
They love to talk about dialectic but don't you dare apply it to their ideology :^)

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>>388625701
Germany.

>>388622071
>nobody listens to videogame website anymore
>they are responsible for 2% of sales wich lets be honest, thatss their little cult
>people on youtube are way more inlfuencial and popula than them and operate at a fraction of the cost
>nobody cares about neogaf
>there are still some shitty sjws in game development but its mostly localization teams and some writers and the worst they can do is sneak some reference or some line here and there
>they wanted to cotrol indie games so they shilled them like crazy yet the most succesful indie game is minecraft and notch doesnt give a shit and most indie devs either dont give a shit or are smart enough to keep quiet
>the ones who dont either dont sell shit or they become a meme and cancel the sequel
>last game they succesfully shilled was no mans sky
how didnt we win again? sure they still exist for now and they probably will for a long time since they get away with not paying their staff and get ad deals but they dont have any actual influence

>>388625701
t. trust fund commie

>>388625924
It is because even if they are on their lasts legs they are still the ones with the loud speakers

>>388626015
thats youtube

>>388625904
>germany
>socialist
uh huh

>>388622071

>leftist
>Cares about games

That literally cannot and will not mix. It's impossible to be a leftie and "care" about games. "Care" means to sperg out whenever you see a lady showing some skin, or when the protagonist isn't forcefully black.

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>>388626336
>germany
>not socialist

How's your first year at university treating ya?

>Country has no food
>Your house is now property of the goverment
>If you dare to say something thats not praise about the goverment get thrown into imprisonment camp
>Or get shot, same result but faster
>Your salary barely covers rent for your goverment appointed apartment
>Half of your loved ones disappeared over the years
>If you are denounced by a neighbour you are fucked, even if its all just a lie
>If you think for yourself once get ostracized by everyone
>"But at least I won't have to pay additional content in my vidya!"

What the hell is Chapo Trap House

>>388625942
Let me tell you about real socialism in the Nordic model.
>dads a criminal, mother is a depressed shutin
>state helps me move out at age 15, pays for my living costs and even public transportation to mandatory but free school
>gets depressed at my childhood and drop out, state still supports me and pay for medical aid
>keeps paying for my neet life until I'm 25, healthy and motivated again
>gets me in government programs since I have no real education, gets me lots of different jobs
> after trying many professions I find one I like (raising salmons), state even pays for travel costs until I've saved up some cash, they also pay for crane license.
>pay is minimum 65k noks, 33k paid after tax and living costs, 3 weeks a month (due worker laws not letting companies force you to work more than 14 days without a week off, as well as up to 300% overtime per hour)
I'll fight anyone who say I should be ungrateful to socialism. It kept me alive and helped me more than any lol doggy dog world faggot. And I'll gladly pay taxes because if it means saving just one guy like me it was worth it. And I'll fight any faggot trying to deny future teen me's from the same chance in life.

>>388626475

better than your high school education

>>388626467
I'm a leftie. I care about games. And from what I can tell /v/ is full of right-wingers who complain about the race or looks of characters in games they don't play. There is nothing in your post remotely correspond to reality and it could even be entirely projection on your part. Please wake up from the memes and start using your brain.

>>388626685
Is your country made of money?

>>388626864
Tax rate is 90% if you earn more than 50k USD per year

>>388626864
We are the happiest country on earth, so yes. All nordic countries are. Our roads are paved with gold just to trigger ancaps and libertarians

>>388626951
Sounds reasonable.

>>388626864
It's fucking Norway.

They sit on trillion barrels of oil and gas and barely have any niggers in their country.
They fucking hate their neighbours and keep to themselve.

It's like ... national socialism. Gosh, but people said NatSoc is rascist and dosn't work!

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>>388625904
>Germoney
>socialism
Kek.

>>388623251
Do you know what put you here? Do you know why humans have get so far?
COOPERATION.

The first wheel wasn't made for profit, the first well hasn't dig for profit, the arrow and we can go on.
We used to hunt together, we used to farm together because the job was easier this way. We could make things we coulnd't alone, not because profit, because everybody needs it.

Now, we live in a world where profits come first, now human labour is cheaper than chicken labour ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvEBN8Jd5DE ), we are destroying our only world and guess what? There is no place to scape.

We need to come back to our roots, we need to cooperate more, or we won't survive.

>>388626951
Kek, That's what they teach in whatever shithole you live in? If anything taxes are constantly lowered for the elite thanks to American influence.

Best part about being a nord? Even our poorest faggots can fuck off to Spain or Thailand and live like kings on welfare money. And we get tax return twice a year, even people on welfare (who get taxed, to build up pension same way employed do, but at a smaller rate obviously)

>>388627190
So that's the narrative now. I thought you guys said we were overrun by Muslims and Africans last time /pol/ talked about Norway, due our "communism".

>>388626685
>Nordic model
You live in a high-trust homogeneous society where until really recently your nationalists literally only had other Nordics to bitch about. The ancaps and lolbergs you're shitting on are almost universally Americans because in America, we have a garbage low-trust society with a massive nigger problem. In our country Nordic socialism would amount to whitey and Asians not Jews, because they'd find away around it working to support negroes, Arabs, and mestizos. You also have massive material wealth in a small area, and a significantly smaller population.

The Nordic nations are a paradise, but let's not pretend that the model is exportable.

I kind of understand why people idolize Marx, and why most of those people are bored, rich young people. Marx was a mega neet, leeching off his family wealth and Engels' generosity. The only thing he ever do that required a minimum effort was writing his fanfics of supreme power, where an entire nation would live solely for his whims and needs.

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Communism gave us the only truly perfect game.

Capitalism gave us horse armor.

>>388627190
>It's like ... national socialism.
This reminds me of the joke that "waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay" sounds totally rad if you don't actually know what it is.

Yeah, sure bud. It's totally cool non-racist national socialism.

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>>388627341
>So that's the narrative now. I thought you guys said we were overrun by Muslims and Africans last time /pol/ talked about Norway, due our "communism".
What? That's Sweden, Britain and France.

>>388627190
>literal socialism and liberalism the country
>Practically open borders for everyone, and everyone gets welfare
>no, they're successful, so it's nationalsocialism!
Now this kinda asspull to be "right anyway" you don't see every day.

>>388627607
>France and Britain
>communist

Good one.

>>388627607
Nah, just watch autistic Norwegian shutins say how Norway is the last Soviet state, how breivik is a hero stopping the leftie menace because there's too many darkies etc. And foreigners will totally agree.

Hell, in norgetråden at /int/ everyone act like /pol/ on steroids because they saw a darkie working as a cashier. Then they fap to girls in wheelchairs