Give me 5 good reasons why Overwatch is an objectively bad game

Why should we care if you uninstall it?

what the fuck is going on with her tits

>>388601870
Comp made the game balance autistic.

>>388601870
The massive amounts of shitty players

>>388601908
Because /v/ gets off on everyone being as miserable as them

>>388601870
If not for the Patreon shilling, I would've believed this to be a Shadman pic.

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>>388601870
Post more Pharah and I'll give you all the reasons.

>>388601870
The game is only bad if you play with your brain turned on

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>>388601870
>not posting bikini

anyway here are five reasons
>not one of the superior class/hero based shooters
>not runescape
>i can't feed my neopets while i play it
>the characters that i like personality wise are unfun to play while the annoying ones are fun
>mercy isn't real and i can't fug her

Not enough skeletons

every game should have a few skeletons you would have to fight

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>>388601870
Game has a very low skill ceiling for the vast majority of heroes, the maps are dogshit full of chokepoints, some maps only have one way through (Hanamura) and teamfights boil down to spamming abilities until you get ult charges and then everybody uses ult at the same time until one side wins. There are very low stakes for dying, the only real punishment is a respawn timer in the vast majority of cases. Now for more opinionated things, the lore is fucking garbage and is boring as fuck, plus the heroes have no fucking character. The pyro from TF2 has more character than 99% of the cast.

This is all I can think of off the top of my head but holy fuck the game is dogshit.

>>388601993
Shitty players do not reflect upon the quality of the actual game. Try harder.

>>388602016
you care about what /v/ says? fuck off newfag

Post fat Phara.

boring and monotonous gameplay hidden behind waifus

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>>388602220
>>388601870
This guy can't draw and he has a fucking patreon

pharah is such a unique case for me. She's utterly drop dead gorgeous in an Amazon kinda way but I despise her Ingame so much that she turns me the fuck of immediately.

My dick can't get hard around a woman that is the defintion of easy mode. Even after learn to get good with my Zen orbs and even outsmarting Pharmercy combos, I despise this chick and anyone who pick her

You know who picks pharah? The type of person who's team is getting bodied for 5 minutes in temple of Anubis and so switches to pharah, sneaks behind the enemy after charging her Ult and just unleashing hell on earth and still manage to lose the game for after 7 solid minutes of being inept.

And all because you Ult in the prssnse of Dva or forgot that they' have a mercy.

>>388601870

It doesn't matter, you'll get banned for saying bad words anyway.

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>>388601870

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>>388605548

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>>388605638

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>>388605698

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>>388605761

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>>388605698
dude this one is the most accurate.
overwatch has too much gay shit that slows down the game and makes it impossible for one guy to actually kill anyone. the fact that healing is way better than damage is the most blatant example of this.

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>>388603397
pharah is one of the three characters that have actual gameplay in the game. the problem is she's in the piece of shit known as overwatch. it's actually bizarre that you're whining about how "low skill" she is since she requires way more "skill" than almost all the other characters.

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>>388606249

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>>388606334

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>>388606396

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>>388602220
imagine sniffing Pharah's fat ass

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>>388606121
OW has the same problems PvP in WoW has

too many shields, too many stuns/sleeps/roots, healing is flat out overpowered and not fun to play against, some classes are flat out better than every other class and will win every single 1v1, literal 'i win' buttons like execute, boring flowchart spec design. The list of similarities goes on and on and on. They can't fucking balance anything and they never will.

>>388605698
Holy shit, this one hits hard

Starcraft shouldn't be included however

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>>388601870
I have 1 reason which is more just an angry rambling.

It's not a skill-based game. So much so that the difference between a brand new player and a Grandmaster with 1000 hours is about 45 minutes.

Every character has 1 if not many non-mechanics that just nullify the enemy in some way (you cannot move, not inhibiting or incentivizing) and because everything in the game does 300% more damage than it should it just results in you instantly dying. Things do so much damage in the game that it stops even mattering (literally at all) because it doesn't matter if Reinhardt's charge does 300 or 500 damage when you only have 200 health.

These abilities come routinely every 5 to 10 seconds with no skill or input on your part, and the only way to stop these abilities is with another non-mechanic. There's also almost always no incentive to not use these abilities other than you won't have it for another 5 seconds.

Movement means fuck all because it's so awkward and slow that you can't avoid anything, but it's also unreasonably difficult to hit things because there's no movement acceleration.

You'd be a fool to try and be a go-getter and accomplish something interesting, because the minute you look like a target is the minute there's 6 people with a non-mechanic to use that will result in you instantly dying.

So it's a game of slow-moving, cumbersome grandmothers on walkers with zero-game mechanics that are almost impossible to mess up and or things that kill you in literally 1 if not 2 hits.

The result is that it's a game where you win by walking outside someone's field of vision, use an ability that makes it impossible for them to do anything and then click on them twice. "Skill" makes up about 4% of how well this siduation plays out for you and that's basically just avoiding these scenarios and doing the same thing to them.

It's crap. I can't even stand to play it at this point, it's just so unpleasant.

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>>388606571

>>388601870
Jackie Chan

>>388601870
I'll give you one:
>Pay real world money for digital lootcrates

>>388606264
Except for "press button for rocket jump, stupid" button. And "press button for juggle, retard" button that locks them in place for everyone that can't aim. She's like half a TF2 soldier.

>>388606895
>there are people on /v/ that have bought lootcrates

I hate this game so much

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>>388601870
Ana is hotter.

>>388606750
>Bronze shitter

Try not to make it so obvious m8

>>388602280
+1

>>388606969
that's literally not an argument.
also, all you have to do is play the game to know he's right.
like it's really obvious everything he says is right.
the only thing you can really contend actually is the results of the interactions between the mechanics since he actually just stated mechanics. Those are in fact, mechanics in the game that are easily measurable.

I argue that results is that the main skill is just the ability of the player to focus on a mindbogglingly brainless experience that slowly sucks your soul and will to live out.

>>388606895
>Cosmetics
Anyone who gives a shit deserve to have their money stolen from them and worse

>>388606969
Maybe try to refute even a single point instead of shitposting? Or just concede like you are doing now because the truth hits hard

>>388601870
Why should I care what the fuck do you play, stupid faggot. Do whatever you want

>>388606969
I know this board is retarded and so many brainess statements get iterated here that people forget when they're being serious but that statement is utterly meaningless

The point of my post is that skill is barely a factor

Scatter arrow is still in the game x5

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>>388606750
>It's crap. I can't even stand to play it at this point, it's just so unpleasant.
And yet, in just a couple years we will have no choice but to play it and other "games" like it until an even worse trend comes along, like when this abomination supplanted modern military shooters. Blizzard's apocalyptic levels of marketing will make them monopolize the industry, and quality shooters will no longer have the numbers needed to maintain their existence.

>extremely low skill ceiling. No need to watch anmo, no ability to switch weapons outside of switching to other characters means no potential for creativity in gameplay or build.
>lack of fresh content means repetitive experience
>poor map design. Every map will play the same every time. There is no strategy involved and the maps are completely railroaded and lack freedom for different angles of attack, further simplifying the experience to that of a hallway shooter.
>poor hero balance. Most heroes are worthless, meta encompasses every level of play
>is a 40$ game that delivers the same amount of content as other free to play shooters
>BONUS ROUND: loot box cash shop scheme is literally gambling for cosmetics in a bid to extract as much money from you as possible. Despite the massive profits they reap from this, they fail to deliver consistent updates at a decent pace to keep the game fresh.

Do yourself a favor and play literally anything else. Even minesweeper would be better for your brain than this braindead skinnerbox.

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>>388607162
Cosmetics are the only reason to continue playing the game since it has no substance.

>>388602338

read this
>>388606396
as a game to fuck around with friends its alright and fun
as a competitive game its not good

The matchmaking is so horseshit random you may as well just pull a lever on a slot machine. You can't carry, you can't do damage, you can't heal, there is no fucking point to any of it and whether you win or lose has nothing to do with you as an individual.

>>388607178
>Hanzo is still in the game
Fixed

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>>388607164

>>388607283
yea, the game is basically a personality test to see if you can get along with other players on your team.
if both teams mesh together properly then the game turns into a nightmarishly shitty shooter.

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>>388607283

>>388607283
So adding it all up, there is absolutely no reason to play the game. Makes sense, no sarcasm

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>>388607421
There is one: It's going to be your only option for a long, long time. >>388607186

>>388601870
fuck of waifushitter, you never played it to begin with. Post your cancer in general shit thread

Poor balance.
Poor map design.
Hard counter system mean that certain characters are just unviable against other heroes.
Low skill ceiling, ults mean that play is just wait for ults, fire ults, did you win? win/try again.
TICKRATE.
The community.

>>388606918
Learn to aim then, cause everyone who can destroys her..

>>388601870
>>388602121
Proof that people don't actually hate his art, just his name.

>>388605761
Reading through that thread yesterday was really mind-blowing.

>>388601870
>Uninstall a game that you spend $60 and and another $20+ on loot boxes just to get a CHANCE on a legendary Widowmaker skin.

No you are going to carry that weight just like how you always have to carry your incompetent teammates to victory.
And you will never win

>>388601870
balancing is a horrid mess in this game
the pace which they release content is near non existent
the community is one of the worst out there
the gameplay is stale and gets boring shortly
it's bad

>>388602280
t. bitter tf2 player

>>388608583
Yeah he's bitter that your game's shit. That makes a heap of sense.

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>>388608724
At least it's more alive than tf2.

>>388608838
Tell me the current number of player then :^)

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>Never really cared for FPS outside of single player stuff like Doom and Turok
>Pick up OW since it was getting a lot of buzz
>Have a shitload of fun with it since it was something new and exciting to me, play it with friends as well, even end up preordering
>Get bored less than a month after release, come back again very briefly when Ana released
>Ended up trying Paladins because "fuck it why not"
>Ends up blowing Overwatch the fuck out
I'm not even going to sit here and pretend that Paladins doesn't have a shitload of problems of its own, because it really does, but I am utterly mystified as to how Blizzard, with so much money and brand power at their disposal, can fail so spectacularly at making a fun, long lasting game. For the record almost none of the people that I played Overwatch with still do so, they grew sick of it as well. Fuck most of the individual heroes aren't even fun to play, half of them are entirely superfluous. Defense Heroes are entirely out-of-place in this game

>>388608838
>30 million players
>still takes 3 minutes to find a game which makes it slower than R6S, Paladins, TF2 or any game with a server browser, Tekken, Warframe, PUBG, etc.

lol

>>388609046
Maybe some people are still attached.

>>388609049
>anecdotes are evidence

1. Press Q to win combat system
2. unfair "balancing" - Winston wins against a Symmetra every time for example. In a competetive game, everything/everyone should be balanced. No Hero should be better or worse than another.
3.Blizzard is ruining their own game. Example.
>Be me.
>Decide to get into roadhog one day
>After hours of gamepaly, finalle git gud
>Roadhog gets nerfed and ist now considered a "troll pick" by the toxic playerbase
4. Pharah's shooting at you out of the walls where they've clipped themselves in on purpose
5. Still no lewd bikini skins.

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>>388609049
It's Blizzard's advanced matchmaking system setting you up for failure.

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>>388606918
If that piece of shit Pharah upsets you then Drogoz would probably cause you to have a fatal stroke.

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Gotta love how the Blizztards have literally nothing of substance with which to back themselves up.

Good game with such a horrendous community that you're only gonna have a decent experience with no less than 5 friends to play with at any time.

>>388609504
you think too highly of tigule
they cant even get class balance right, dont think for a second they can have some sort of high level matchmaking system thats exploitative

the reason why your nigger dick game takes 3 mins to find a match is because pc playerbase is fucking dead, and its a multiplat game that thrives on consoles

>>388602782
His faces are pretty sexy but his the way he draws bodies is just off.

>>388609628
Balance doesn't make them money, but bleeding people's pockets by drawing out rewards does.
Which do you think they will be more motivated to put more work in?

>>388609697
Seems like he's copying Legoman with more sameface

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>>388602782
Even misaligned proportions can be made up with excessive highlights of the aesthetically more important parts. I think the armored version looks better, however, and the shading is fine. The focus is clearly on her buttocks, which is enlarged to further create a suggestive thought in the viewer's eye parallel to her embarrassed yet intrigued expressi...I just realized a replied to a bait on 4chan, what am I doing with my life

>>388601870
>>388602220
Is this Legoman 2.0?

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>>388601870
Only need one
Begin uninstalling please :^)

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>>388609847
>tfw you remember when Winston was the worst
To think
just a couple seconds on the bubble shield
could make all the difference.

>>388609792
it's bad. It's not even about proportions it's about body parts twisting and contorting in inhuman manners.

>>388609531
FUCK YOU YOU SHITTY LIZARD

>>388601870
#1 Time exclusive content. You bought the game. You should be able to play whatever mode whenever you want.

#2 Transperancy of character stats encourages players to play only one character.

#3 Loot boxes aren't even that rewarding for a blizzard skinner box.

#4 Game balance and abilities are constantly changing so you will eventually realize you can never play your favorite character at it's peak ever again.

#4 No mods or dedicated servers. All visual and game play variety is facilitated by blizzard. Have fun with that.

#5 All the waifus have Dreamworks face.

>>388610174
>You bought the game. You should be able to play whatever mode whenever you want.

well desu blizz has the right to do whatever the fuck they want with their game without your opinion, since you agreed to the eula that said so, you have nothing to be entitled to

its weird you still have this mindset in 2017, when even steam, the most popular game retail platform, said starting back in 2012 that you don't own shit and have right to nothing, just a privilege to play that you pay for, and that can be taken away at any second for any reason they want

>>388601870
hey this game was already retarded and next update they're making it "Kill Enemy Mercy" simulator.

You kill the enemy mercy and then their entire team dies because your mercy can just revive your guys when they die lol.

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post moar /bestgirl/

>>388601870
1.) Game wants to promote character switching to react to your enemies plays but the meta is the same six characters on both teams because they can only be beaten by themselves played better
2.) Game want some to promote character switching to react to your enemies plays but has a character like Solider:76 who literally never has a reason to not switch
3.) Horizontal to 1 & 2, balance is awful as tanks are essentially DPS with more HP values
4.) The Rewards system for cosmetics is entirely random and they have events that go on for a month with exclusive items, so if you'd don't get what you want you have to wait a year for another shot at it
5.) Community is incredibly toxic in the competitive playerbase going to far as to intentionally lose ga,es if you don't strictly adhere to what's considered meta

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>>388611962

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>>388612027
Mercy gets JASMINED every night

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>>388611962
I want to fuck her.

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>>388612074

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>>388612123
Shes perfect
>>388612130

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>>388612183

I only enjoy playing junk rat, I was consistently good when I played, people think he's the worst class and useless.

In TF2 i mostly played Spy, Scout, Pyro, Engineer in that order.

In overwatch only fun class is junk rat imo, no gimped movement or clunky jumps, good manouverability good weapon power, fun in both defensive and attack roles.

>some anons posts hard FACTS that overwatch is shit and low IQ faggots and females play it
>blizztards revert to waifuposting
Imagine having such a sad existence, such a shit taste, such a life. Why even live ? Overwatch faggots, how to do you even justify living, as the cancer killing gaming ?

Have you guys noticed waifufags are more cancerous to gaming than any sjw? they will put up with any shit as long as they can jerk off their little willies

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>>388609990
It's actually more that everyone not named winston got nerfed into the ground

>>388609531
>picks any hitscan and isnt a retard with positioning
:^)

>>388612670
N-no I play mercy because shes mechanically hard, not because I watch her porn
I mean its so hard to look press a button and heal, how could she be called braindead

Ill give you 5 good reasons why I like OW:
>I
>want
>to
>impregnate
>Pharah

How can I come up with a good name for myself as a western porn creator? It should be short, easy, memorable, original.

>>388602220
Looks like he gets a D+

>>388612956
I wish i was a waifushitter and retarded too anon

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>>388612956
This.

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>>388601870
Some of this shit is outdated but still applies.

>>388613061
Zama.

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>>388613750

>>388602280
I am sad about tf2 too but shit you sound a little too mad

>>388601870
1. level design
2. balance
3. meta
4. shitty community
5. outdated "cartoon" graphics

i'd like to continue:
6. micro-transactions
7. no content
8. made by modern blizzard
9. basically unrewarding competitive regime
10. e-sport is boring to watch and dying out.
11. unskilled gameplay
12. 1 button pentakills

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>>388613803

>>388602338
It does when the game is centered around the multi-player

>>388613652
It should be original. Google gives 12M+ results for zama.

>>388613061
Faggot

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>>388605698
>you cannot do anything alone
>he never realized you supposed to work as a team

>>388614024
I want mercy to give me a foot job.

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Not enough 10/10 waifus.

>>388614072
>10/10
>posts a photoshopped fat pig
Hmm

>>388614072
Hnnggg! Those nails.

Fuck I have so many annoying fetishes when it comes to women, hair and nails just fucking do it for me and I don't know why.

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I see 80% of Mercy players using this skin. I hope Blizzard sees the popularity and adds more lewd feet skins in the future.

>>388602280
>plus the heroes have no fucking character
Good, we already have enough autism over the characters.
Giving "lore" and "personality" to the "characters" of these games is a mistake that only produces autistic communities.

>>388613604
I love Fareeha

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>>388614686
Fareeha is cute!

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These threads are fucking disgusting, not because Overwatch is bad (I've never even played it, so I can't even judge), but because fucking mongoloids barely even discuss the game and just post waifushit. Really shows where the industry is headed: catering to pathetic manchildren NEETs who let their cocks do the thinking.

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>>388601870
>Tracer should have no counter

>>388614789
The cutest. I wish her abilities didnt rely on the suit so they could show her from the neck down in new skins

>>388601870
>most characters are pretty much useless.
>dirtlow skillsealing
>no private servers
>no mods
>no custom maps.
What do I win?

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>>388614072
Step aside land whale

>>388614817
Based on most western gaming trends, it really isn't. Overwatch is an extreme outlier. You are a cretin.

Uninstalled yet OP?

>>388615460
Who is this goddess

>>388615573
a vain gook who has to conceal her ugliness with photoshop filters and makeup.

I bet her breath smells really bad

>>388609396
>Still no lewd bikini skins
There's one for widow now kinda.

>>388615658
Id still do lewd things to her

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>>388615230
Same.

>>388615506
>Based on most western gaming trends, it really isn't.
More like you have no clue what you're talking about, shitstain. Trash like Paladins and lawbreakers are following the same manchild pandering model and I'm sure the market will be flooded by even more waifu trash. Neck yourself.

>>388615910
I still love her even though she'll never get the Zero Suit treatment

>>388615230
She could easily wear a jetpack and only a jetpack.

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>>388616027
Paladins yes. Lawbreakers no.

Do you want to know why a lot of Overwatch threads have more discussion of the girls than the game? Because the game is fucking bad. Go into any Overwatch thread and the discussion about it is almost never positive, its players are absolutely incensed at all times, and for good reason. They bought into a absolute shitheap of a game.

In any event, "waifu pandering" isn't as big of a deal that you think it is, and almost purely because of just how badly people get raked over the coals in the entertainment and tech industries for doing anything even close to "objectionable", and the people that aren't suffering from this shit are the sycophants that are going out of their way to pander to audiences that either don't care about their message and just want to play games, or people that outright hate or don't care about games and simply want to co-opt entertainment for ideological reasons.

So yeah no, "waifus" are not a big problem in the West.

gee anon where do i start

>shit balance, got even worse with the introduction of doomfist, who can basically solo every hero and one shot every non-tank with a 4 second cooldown
>shit ranking system that benefits those already at the top ( qualifier match results have no effect on players of master rank or above
>the same ranking system who calculates your worth based on your INDIVIDUAL performance ON A TEAM GAME, encouraging shit behaviour.
>half of the cast is not usable because they're fucking useless, but instead blizz keeps buffing cvharacters that are already strong (see upcoming mercy changes)
>they nerf characters because they work correctly (see upcoming d.va nerf because blizz says she was "effective at absorbing damage" and that's "problematic", according to jeff kaplan, a platinum shitter.
>bastion was reworked into nothingness, no longer viable even if you build around it
>sniper characters having assault rifles
>melee characters having shotguns

i could go on but i think you get the point

>>388605638
>9: [...] Some characters are good enough that you can literally carry a team

>>388605698
>it is mechanically impossible for (You) as one person to break the multiple shields and regenerating health any 2+ players bring to the table

So which is it?

>>388616372
t. silver shitter

>>388616695
>point out legitimate complaints about the game that could easily be fixed i not for the fact that the team in charge is comprised of gold/plat players
>l-lol anon you must be a s-silver, ecks-dee

I've been diamond since season 1 (though back then it wasnt diamond but was in top 4%)

game is going to shit more and more with every patch

t.zen/mercy main

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>>388602220
>entire pinky is the size of the index distal
>other pinky is a completely different size
>those flubber tits
I get it, hands are hard, but you have two references at all fucking times right in front of you.

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>>388616180
One day.

>>388616372
>doomfist, who can basically solo every hero and one shot every non-tank with a 4 second cooldown
Am I the only one who doesn't have trouble with doomfist?
I'm in masters.
I don't understand why everyone has problems with him

Where's the best place to get the porn?

>>388605548
Loot system now is WAY better than the past algorithm.
But other than that, the others are valid points.

>>388617687
He is easy to deal with

>>388617687
I'm a pretty big shitter and I win 9/10 fights with him as McRee.

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>>388615446
>no private servers

>making shit up

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>>388601870
1. 6v6 limit
2. no player-run servers
3. no server communities
4. no custom maps
5. can get banned from the game for "toxicity"

>>388618581
There aren't private servers, they are all hosted on blizzard servers and are unmodable a la team fortress 2

>team based
This should be a good enough reason to uninstall the game

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>>388601870
-Moving feels like a hassle. Going from the base to where the action is happening feels too slow even on fast characters like Tracer. What makes this worse is that it's boring when there's nothing going on in-between. Even TF2 somehow makes going from one place to another less or even not boring.
-Ultimates are way too powerful with little to no side effect. I know their main purpose is to shake things up greatly but they are way too broken in a sense that one ULT is enough to change the course of the match. Got a Hanzo? Just fucking aim your ULT on a wall towards the enemy from your base and it's all good. Shit happens pretty much immediately and enemies can't really see where it goes unless it's right in their face. Got a Junkrat? Just go from a safe distance and just use it. The insta kill is fine and dandy. Got a D.Va? You don't even need to fucking aim with this shit. Just the fact that the explosion radius is big enough to force enemies to move without that much consequence as well as the fact that you can just get a mech immediately after using is the icing of the shit cake.
-Maps are terrible and there's one thing that they have all in common:tightness. I know their aim is a war in a city or populated area and they tend to be tight and all that but it is no excuse to give players small breathing ground. They can make the maps pretty all they want but fuck me, the tightness hinders the gameplay. Don't get me fucking started with characters like D.Va and Junkrat. Paladins did map designing better by making things big enough to satisfy pretty much all characters at the same time, giving players different routes.
-The characters have little to none personality. Blizzard can make shorts look decent but even then, they fail to make me interested in the characters. Even in-game I find them to be forgettable. TF2 and even Paladins make characters memorable with better personality.
-Characters are very boring to use. They don't feel impactful that much.

I'm getting tired of this game, any other game I can play less than an hour per day after work ?

I want to cum on Sombra's tongue!

The biggest problem is that there is no option to just pick a class you want and kill people. The whole game is solely designed around objectives and teamfights. Even if nobody was toxic and let people to pick whatever they wanted it would fix NOTHING. The game is simply not fun unless you play the objective. And hey it gets old eventually. If I just want to run around and shoot people okay and this game isnt just really that good for it. This shows especially in quickplay which feels like waste of time no matter what class you play or what you do the shooting at other people part is just so unsatisfying. Atleast in ranked you can grind that dopamine number to trick your brain to keep playing the game.

>>388619819

Aren't deathmatch coming soon ?

>>388601870
>Decide to finally get my Rank yesterday
>Go 5-5
>Immediately put to 3332
>Quit Overwatch until the end of next season appears again
How can people be entertained for so long by this game? It gets boring rather quickly.

>>388619849
No but that still doesnt fix anything. The characters... The whole game as I said is built around teamfights. I just cannot see myself comparing 1v1 tracer to the level of 1v1 scout in tf2 or 1v1 pharah to 1v1 soldier. Or maybe I just have extreme bias but thats how I see it.

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>>388601870
>The maps are shit
>The maps are shit
>The maps are shit
>The maps are shit
>The maps are shit
The most important part of a FPS is the maps, and Overwatch has 0 (zero) good maps, the worst offender is the 2cp gamemode wich has HORRIBLE maps. I have never seen such bad map desgin come out of a AAA studio.

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I want to do the mating press on Pharah and cum directly into her cervix. Sombra can have sloppy seconds.

1. Horrible balancing. Overwatch might be the most poorly balanced game I've ever played in my life. I reached Diamond before quitting so I feel like I have a good grasp on the balance of this game.
2. Maps are garbage. There are a few good ones like the KOTH maps, but the others are so small that fighting is a clusterfuck.
3. Fights are boring. The game has devolved in to both teams charging their ults and not interacting with each other in interesting ways. This culminates in to both teams saving their ults for some big power play over and over again. This is the optimal strategy and it's extremely boring.
4. Competitive is unrewarding. In other games, at the end of seasons you are given rewards depending on how high you've climbed. In Overwatch, you are given points that you must save up in order to get something that isn't even cool. A golden variation of a weapon isn't a good reward and players at high levels are given nothing for their dedication. Ultimately, this makes competitive unfulfilling and basically pointless.
5. The hitboxes. I guess this has become a bit of a meme, but it's seriously an issue. As stated previously, I was a reasonably high rank before dropping the game. When I started to get bored with the game, I would fuck around by playing with a controller. I saw little decrease in my average scores with characters like Tracer and Soldier, my most played damage characters. This is because the games hitboxes are extremely forgiving and don't require precision aim or movement. What this results in is a low skill ceiling that makes it difficult to distinguish great players from average players.

Overwatch can be fun, but as a competitive game, it's one of the worst ever created.

>>388606531
Anon, PLS... it's too early for boners, mate.

>>388620224

I test it on the Ptr and in deathmatchs, you can pick whoever you want, and you can face whoever they want.

>>388618481
>>388617687
Now you two realize how inept the complainers are at vidya lol

>>388620643
You gotta get past diamond to actually see how the game functions tbqh, and then it flips upside down past masters

>>388602220
Do you play runescape? As a free player, what should I do in the game?

>>388620643
>What this results in is a low skill ceiling that makes it difficult to distinguish great players from average players.
Then why did South Korea mop the floor with absolutely everyone playing the typical Winston / D.Va / Tracer / Genji / Lucio / Zenyatta cookie cutter shit while picking "bad" heroes like Junkrat and even fucking Orisa during the last World Cup?
>3. Fights are boring. The game has devolved in to both teams charging their ults and not interacting with each other in interesting ways. This culminates in to both teams saving their ults for some big power play over and over again
And how do you gain ults? By dealing continuous damage. Not to barriers, either. Or healing. In other words, doing your job. Someone who lands a fuckton of direct hits with Pharah is going to get their ultimate faster and snowball the game faster.
>>388619464
>The characters have little to none personality.
Except all of the characters have specific banter with their friends or adversaries and even the fucking animations they have are very different. They're not stiff. You actually feel like you're a hulking brute when you're playing Winston or Reinhardt because of how his camera works and how you can see and hear the weight of your footsteps.

Seriously, what is this "personality" bullshit that I keep hearing all the time? Especially with how the fandoms work:
>typical OW video
Reaper's an edgelord to protect his soft inner self that is into embroidery and home decoration
>typical TF2 video
Spy sees The Engineer working on his sentry so he decides to sodomize him with his extendable head, to which Engineer says "Need a Di-CK RIIIGHT here" and vomits sandviches into the dispenser. PAINIS CUPCAKE appears out of nowhere, blows everyone up, and goes HYAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHH while the camera zooms on his distorted face.

>>388623171
>You actually feel like you're a hulking brute when you're playing Winston
Reinhardt sure, but Winston looks retarded from first person. There's no reason his animations should look as bad as they do while playing him.

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>porn "artists"

>>388609990
>meanwhile king of kings rein being reduced to literal garbage

Tank meta repeat fucking when

>>388623171
And I would really be inclined to agree with the points about OW, but why the fuck are the 5 autists posting the same screencaps so contradictory?

You keep complaining about the game being chock-full of self-reliant characters that can kill everything by themselves, like old Roadhog, but then do a complete 180* and say that individual skill doesn't matter. The last time I pointed out that there've been a ton of people who climbed Bronze to GM with Widow, McCree or similar, someone on /v/ ACTUALLY said "They're turboautists and no-life nerds so they don't count". So the game takes no skill, but you should still be allowed to get high rank for free? ELO hell complainers have always been shit.

Game is full of cheap characters with no-skill, but even fucking TF2, the Holy Grail of most shitposters in this thread, saw no end of people complaining about the Pyro (who has always been a horribly shitty pubstomper character), Spy (who has always been a horribly shitty pubstomper character) or Heavy (who... yeah). Same with complaints about class balance, when TF2 has to self-regulate by banning unlocks and the only popular classes are Scout, Solly, Demo, Sniper and Medic.
People keep complaining about Doomfist when he's a weak character with a single terribly frustrating mechanic that is getting nerfed next patch making him nothing more than a failed, blobby Genji with a hitbox the size of Africa. Doomfist has a fuckton of counters.

I fucking have UT'99 installed when I want extreme hands-on gameplay, TF2 when I want to play my beloved Spy and Scout and OW when I want to play something colorful and polished that constantly has me have new things to do, and I'm sick of this doomsday bullshit about OW literally taking away your beloved FPSes when people have been shitting up TF2 threads since like 2008 with the exact same rhetoric. And if "microtransactions" are a problem, then don't fucking buy skins. Have some fucking self-control.

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>Go to sleep
>Wake up 7 hours later
>Thread is still here
>Still can't get 5 good reasons
Just goes to show /v/'s opinion is shit when it comes to popular things

>>388623437
What's wrong with people like Manara?

One absolutely objective reason is that Blizzard cannot into balance. Every time they patch something, they completely break something else.

>>388624309
>this
>people claim that it's all luck and even if you reach GM your shit team will bring you down
>Streamers like Calvin stay in the top 500 solo-queuing for the most part
People are mad because they want TF3, not a pale imitation. And that's fine. But OW remains a decent game. Of course it's not going to compare to prime TF2 before all the bullshit, but Valve is never going to make a sequel. It's best to let your butt-frustration go and let people enjoy things you dislike.

Someone who actually enjoys OW here.

>Lootboxes in a game you've already paid for
>Generally lower skill ceilings than it's contemporaries mean there's often a cap on how much influence you can personally have on a game
>Many, many issues with ranked. Rank degradation punishes people who might already be burned out. People value the meta more than experimentation and fun. Some game-modes can last way too long etc.
>Though they can be commended for trying to play around with hero balance, they often lack foresight. Seemingly minor buffs to Ana lead to a boring triple tank meta for a long time, for example.
>Lack of meaningful content and an overabundance of filler. Events are a good idea, but they stick to seasonal stuff in place of things that expand on lore or add things the community evidently want, like PvE.

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>Needs more Ana sfm porn
>Needs more Phara sfm porn
>Needs more thicc Mei sfm porn
>Make Mercy more difficult to drive away gamur gurls
>Needs more Ana and Phara threesome sfm porn

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>>388602220

>>388601870
your perfonmance won't decide if you'll have a good match or not, no matter how good it is

>>388611761
>I suck corporate cock
>and not even good corporate cock

>>388611761
>since you agreed to the eula that said so

Can you provide me one example of the incredibly flimsy EULA's being taken seriously by the court? It's recognized that most users do not read them/are pressured into agreeing due to access to the software being withheld and so they tend not to be taken very seriously. I'm not even sure there's a president set on whether they are legally binding.

That said this doesn't make a difference in this example, Blizzard can totally restrict content if they want to. Digital content is still new ground legally and there's basically no law protecting consumers as far as I know.

>>388626870
>I'm not even sure there's a president set
>president set
Doggy dog world, amirite?

>>388625513
It's more than likely a colored lineart commission of Legoman. Shadman is mainly a slowly (de)evolving meme artist.

>>388626498
>sym
>rampant

spotted the shitter

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>>388626498
>>Mercy is losing her Rez
What the fuck isn't that her ult? Isn't this the only thing she's useful for? Why is Blizzjew so fucking stupid?

>>388614072
F A T T

I wanna fuck Pharah

>>388627040
Feels bad man, didn't even spot that one. Fuck ups like that seem to be a diamond dozen to me.

>play good
>start getting matched with people more interested in getting kills over playing the point
>Blizzard can't balance for shit, either

there is a man with a bow, whose arrows can do 125 damage on a limp-wristed bodyshot and 250 on a headshot. Said arrows have a degree of aim-correction so you're more likely to hit a headshot. On top of this, you have a quick-charging secondary that fires a projectile that becomes 8~ regular arrow shots when it collides into something solid, bouncing around 2 to 3 times, so you can effectively take out an entire team by yourself.

The only utility weapon that said bowman has is a radar arrow that takes double the time of the guaranteed-kill arrow to recharge. They also have an ultimate that you don't need to strictly aim at somebody, as you just fire an arrow into a wall if needs be and a no-clip pair of dragons start flying through the map killing everyone in their path.

Killing said mad arrow man while he's still enunciating his ult doesn't cost him his ult either, only when he fires the arrow is the ultimate lost.

>>388601870
Played 2 hours last night and couldn't get a win in the arcade mode.

Wouldn't say that it was bad because I didn't win, but it's kinda bad that it was just a chore at that point.

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>>388609847
How's my wife Tracer so high up?
I remember her never being picked, because Soldier does everything she does and more at a longer range.

>>388627191
It's becoming a basic ability to rez a single person, 30 second cooldown.. Her new ultimate lets her heal/boost multiple people, resets her resurrect and reduces the cooldown to 10 seconds, boosts her pistol, and lets her fly freely for 20 seconds.

1)it's
2)made
3)by
4)fucking
5)blizzard
isn't it enough?

>>388627191
It's becoming a sub-attack, rez one person at a time on a 30~ second cooldown

Her new ult is that she can fly, fire at an increased rate, her healing/damage boosting can now chain onto multiple people and has a longer range, and her passive healing can outheal a magdump from a soldier

>>388627191
It's an ability now, 30 second cooldown to rez one target which refreshes when she uses her new ult for 2 rezes in succession. Her new ult buffs all her stats including cooldown so she can still get those high value revives in. It was meant to stop people hiding in important team fights to rez at the perfect moment, because they felt it was wrong for the best strategy to be the healer sitting out and waiting.

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>>388627426
>Her new ult is that she can fly, fire at an increased rate, her healing/damage boosting can now chain onto multiple people and has a longer range, and her passive healing can outheal a magdump from a soldier

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You've already decided that you want to you just made this thread to find a reason as to why not. If you had no intention of deleting the game you wouldn't have made this thread

>>388627317
>your wife

shes a lesbian

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>>388627317
Post more bulge

>>388626498
Reaper's soul pickups got replaced by lifesteal which makes him much better.

Anyone complaining about Doomfist doesn't kow that Reaper is a much better and more reliable bruiser character.

>>388627296
And in spite of all those things, Hanzo is low tier due to low mobility, poor utility and easily being ambushed. To pick him, you have to tell people "If it doesn't work, I'll switch to something else later", because Hanzo players are either shitters or gods, no inbetween.

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>>388627651
Explain high Tracer pick rate to me though.

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>>388602272
this.

>>388601870
I only need one.

Ever played WoW PvP? This is a worse version of that.

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>>388601870
Actually, Overwatch is an objectively good game, because it keeps casual normieshitters like OP contained.

1. COOLDOWNS
2. COOLDOWNS
3. COOLDOWNS
4. COOLDOWNS
5. COOLDOWNS

>>388627832
Tracer's high pick rate is there because Winston became such a good tank. Winston both enables Tracer (creates a fuckton of space and chaos that Tracer can thrive in and pick people off in) and deals well with Tracer (Tracer gets fried by Tesla Cannon in seconds, so she has to be constantly on the move and thus spending blinks very defensively).

If your team picks Reinhardt, another superpopular tank, Tracer can flank you and even stick a bomb to you to severely damage you and kill any squishy hiding behind you.

Also the general level of McCree players is low, on top of the hero having a lot of flaws and caveats so you're at a low risk of getting instaheadshot to death by a competent enforcer on the enemy team.

Also Tracer's blink lets her self-sustain.

If you're below Masters though you will find more Rein tanks and deathball compositions and thus you are probably still better off with Soldier. Unless, of course, you are really good at Tracer and know your map layouts well so that you can duck for health packs and find all the best weak spots.

>>388628110
So, basically it's just a secondary effect of Rein falling out favor?

I want to impregnate Sombra and take responsibility.

youd have to be underage to not notice on your own

>>388602272
Well Halloween is around the corner.

We won't be getting OC skeleton characters though, not without stepping on the toes of our edgelord and savior Reaper and mixing it up with Sombra sugar skull motif.

>>388601870
How is Pharah truly our /bestgirl/? How can paleskins even compete with that dusky diamond?

They keep removing the PvE modes they already created. Put them in the arcade you fucks.

>>388628464
>and mixing it up with Sombra sugar skull motif

I can see Bliz rethinking any and all ethnic costumes. They get so much shit about 'cultural appropriation' from no-nothing fucks each and every time, and they wind up apologising more ofthen than they rebalance the game.

>>388614039
You're supposed to work as a team in games like CSGO or Siege too but you can also make a huge impact by yourself. The round isn't over in either of those games so long as one guy on your team has one point of health, even pro teams have thrown away 5v1s in those games, but what the fuck is McCree supposed to do alone when Reinhardt and a couple fuckbuddies start pushing him?

>>388613626
>Complaining about Tracer's new pose
They literally replaced it with a pose right out of a pin-up.

I only know OW from the porn, is the game actually "dying" or is it 4chns contrarianism as always?

>>388629947
Eh, both? Not dying financially, but people aren't sweet talking it as much anymore and it's becoming clear just how much complaining comes from the community. Every change seems to warrant a petition and a thesis statement explaining "why _____ is SUPPOSED to play this way" >>388629947

I don't have fun with it anymore, personally. Seems like people never fucking die compared to something like Siege or even TF2. Genjis and other flankers constantly shit all over me either having moves that make them invincible (reflect) or get them to safety instantly (teleport). So I can't focus on fighting the rest of the team and we all end up dying.

>>388630304
Ok, I guess my dating sim VN is still a go.

>>388619121
>1. 6v6 limit
Good, 10 v 10 is a clusterfuck
2. no player-run servers
No p2w servers like the ones you connect to in tf2? Awesome.
3. no server communities
No people circle jerking with each other rather than playing and actual balanced matches? Awesome.
4. no custom maps
I will give you this one.
5. can get banned from the game for "toxicity"
Bullshit, you can flame 24/7 and not get banned this isn't League. You get banned for afk and deranking though, as you should.

1/5 another salty tf2 fag.

>>388606968
>Young Ana

Kill yourself.

I genuinely think they need to stop listening to the fans. Remember that they cancelled an entire OW book that was ready to go, written, drawn, all but printed, because they were afraid it would mess with 'muh headcanon'. There's respecting the fans ' wishes, and there's being afraid to do anything that may upset a vocal minority.

>>388630712
>having shit taste

>>388629947
It's not dying and anyone who tells you otherwise is a shit poster. Blizzard never releases player numbers for their game no matter how popular or dead.

Is McCree worth investing into? Each time I play him, I end up having tons of shield in front of me and I don't know what to do.

>>388627085
Well he not too long ago dropped the shitty edgy hard lighting that plagued his works for years so I give him that. Maybe in 25 years he will finally be good.

>>388630719
Comic books don't matter, it wouldn't have sold squat and would be troll fodder for shipping wars.
And they'd retcon it anyway at their convenience.

>>388602121
Nah, the ass would be fatter and the face would look more flawed

>>388609049
>3 minutes
I can find matches in less than a minute on non prime hours, you are full of shit.

>>388602431
No.

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>>388602782
>>388609697

its a girl anons

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>>388612074
>Implying Pharah is smaller in height than Mercy

Topkek

>>388601870
1- You are automatically granted a *special ability* after a period of time, even if you lack skill to earn it. Effectively appealing to retard-proof audience.


> Dumb Ass Anon: But it is so that any player has a chance
FAQ: If you want a chance... GIT GUD FAGGIT, the game should not reward your retard ass for not rage-quitting

2- Not all cosmetic items can be obtained without paying, creating a real-money market

> Dumb Ass Anon: But the items are purely cosmetic, you don't need them to play
FAQ: True, but this is not a MMORP tho, locking content behind paywalls is appealing to the MOBA audience... this not a MOBA either, get your shit straight.

>>388601870
It's a shitty game and the only good thing about it is lewds

>>388601870
>not wanting to play as a qt brown thot

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>>388633725
Willing to bet the farm that Sombra is more of a whore than Pharah

>>388632282
And don't forget autistic amounts of chromatic aberration

>>388614563
This but Overwatch's characters are an example of this.

>>388630637
Lol, faggot.

>>388605548
>>388605638
>>388605698
>>388605761
>>388605871
>>388605963
>>388606249
>>388606334
>>388606396
>>388606465
>>388606525
>>388606571
>>388606783
All wrong

>>388635719
Good argument.

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>>388624315
There's plenty of good reasons.
You're just refusing to see them.

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>>388635719

>>388606605
Good thing WoW has something other than PvP while Overwatch has autistic waifu fags.

>>388615446
Aren't custom maps coming ?

>>388635803
None of these provided 5 "good reasons" the game is bad.
Just excuses for being bronze and losing in fucking arcade

>>388635719
Go back to twitter Mr. Trump

>>388636132
Very good argument, friend.

>>388636132
And yet you can't refute even a single point, let alone try

Instead you just shitpost because the obvious truth hits you like a truck

>>388631026
He is gutter tier trash, even pros who have near perfect aim dont play him for the simple fact that every genji, tracer, winston or dva counters you.

>>388636278
How do I refute someone ranting:
>I was GM and now I'm diamond because of fucking throwers hence the game is bad

Also in those spam posts I see people complaining how you can't do anything alone (carry your games)
While also complaining about performance based SR, which is there to fix the issue of bad teammates.
All you need is to play better than the average players at your SR and you will rank up.

The only valid point I'd agree with is that some ultimates are too strong.
But they fix the issue with shields and death ball comps.

>>388624315
>i don't want to read
Go play your shitty casul game, retard.
>>388613626
>>388613687
>>388613750
>>388613803
>>388613867
All good reasons besides the ones already posted.

Every complaint boils down to
>my team is ALWAYS shitters
>the enemy team is ALWAYS coordinated what is the common denominator here?

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>>388601870
coming from someone who last played it back in december, here is my list.

1. The Community is a toxic cess-pool, people will out right berate you for playing a hero that is not in the meta, or for choosing a hero they just dont like because reasons.

2. a majority of games revolve around stalling, then stacking ults to win

3. too much down-time between dying and running back into the fight.

4. Hard crowd control is a thing. (Personally, I don't feel like hard stuns should be in a multiplayer FPS)

5. mechanical skill is almost un-needed because of how some of the heroes work. (IE, Junkrat M1 spam, Mercy just heals and flys around, S-76 has an autoaim ultimate, Winstons attack in general.)

But still...
>file-name.exe

>>388635398
100%

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>>388636132

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>>388601870
I came here for Pharah

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>>388636767
How about you actually read those "spam posts" and counter the points made instead of going "LOL RANT LOL SALTY XD" you fucking shit.

Beginning to think this is some serious b8 but I'll bite anyways.

>>388635486
Oh right, forgot about that. I really get off to jlullaby tho, gotta give props to shad for putting me on this

>>388637683
This. Post more Pharah

>>388601870

>wanting sex with negro women

You guys are pathetic.

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>>388638194
> negro
she's brown

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>>388638194
>Egyptian
>Negro
Racism is a mental illness

>>388638194
She's arab, not a nigger.

>>388637252
No, lol.

>>388601870
It's not, you retard. If there were any good reasons you'd have heard them already within the past year. Now go back to playing games instead of making shitty threads.

>>388638406
Hi, Tumblr.

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>>388638564
>It's not

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>>388601870
>no story mode
>online only
>pay to win
>western
>they want the moba garbage audience

>>388638639
t. racist

>>388601870
No fart emotes for girls.

>>388638752
t.waifufag

>>388638802
>Mercy and Widow will never take turns farting on your face

Feels bad

>>388638194
Ana/Pharah are clearly Arabic, here's the (You) you're so desperate for.

>>388638746

>pay to win

Excuse me?

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>No movement acceleration

Dropped right there.

>>388638874
As long as we're being honest

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>>388638930

>>388639034
worst poo

>>388639178
Name 8 better ones

>>388639229
why 8?

Individual skill makes up only 1/6th of your rank in competitive and 1/6th of your chance of winning a match.

>>388639347
Why can't you?

>>388638379
>>388638406
>>388638513
>brown hair
>brown eyes
>anything but a negro

Nice try, Jew.

>>388639590
>>brown hair
>>brown eyes
What is majority of non-negros on Earth. Alex?

>>388639590
Ana is a high test slut, she's at least half white.

Please stop feeding the troll you fucking retards.

>>388639671
There are three races: caucasoid, mongoloid, and negroid. Mongoloids and negroids share many of the same traits and she expresses those.

>>388639741
One drop rule.

The only acceptable woman in Overwatch is Mercy. Widowfags need not apply, she had brown hair and green eyes and was therefore not white before she was turned into a blueberry.

>>388639857
this

>still giving attention to STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE fags

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Pic related, the only respectable woman in Overwatch.

>luxurious blond hair
>tropical blue eyes
>creamy soft skin
>hourglass figure
>angelic visage

>>388640376
>Implying that's who he was talking about.

>>388630712
all 3 are goddesses anon

>>388613803
>>388613750
>>388613687
>>388613626
I got about two images in before I stopped reading, everything he is saying doesn't need to be contested. Overwatch is a game for waifufag and console idiots to poor cash into to feel good about their 'gayming experience'. It's not about enjoying the game, it's about the culture surrounding it. Playing overwatch is like a fashion trend for them.

>>388640743
>tfw theres fuckall old Ana SFM

>>388641042
Im just waiting for someone to comission one fro ellowas

>>388640663
>implying it's only valid for what one person wants it for

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What does this game have besides porn? I consistently struggle to find any reason to actually like overwatch, so do the players. I thought I was just being bad, and tried really hard and eventually got to masters league, but the game was still boring as trash.
Effectively, overwatch offers women for you to jack off to. That's it. And because how oxytocin works, people jerk off to the characters, then fantasize about them as they play in game.

Like that female mercy main, that you've masturbated to hundreds of times. You feel that connection.

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/v/ likes to meme that being in gold-diamond Is bad, when the official statistics show that most players are in those two groups on pc and ps4.
/v/ is full of motherfuckers who love to lie about skill.
saying your masters in this game is a worthless achievement unless you're getting money, just saying.
as other anons pointed out, this Gane barely takes individual skill. The SR only measures how valuable you are as a team

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>>388616027
>I'm sure the market will be flooded by even more waifu trash.
This makes me happy. I'm okay with this.

>>388601870
Why bother? even if I do I'll probably get a bunch of (you)s asking for rank or hurr butthurt tf2/quake/siege/cs/anyotherfuckingshooter fan non arguments. you already gave them your money, the damage is done.

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>>388638194
>whining about this stuff on a thread about a game with hotties of all skin colors
come back when a game is filled with SJW-looking women, but oh, wait, nobody's even going to make a thread about such a game that isn't making fun of it

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>>388611962
pharah is in love with mercy

>>388641452
Gold is average
Anyone who is getting paid to play this in GM

>>388640393
too old

>>388635398
pharah is a dyke tho

>>388642202
All women are bisex, yuri is a meme for beta males and fugly chicks

why is it that the only counter-arguments I see to posts that point out legitimate problems overwatch has (bad map design, bad hero balance, etc.) are just "lol t. silver shitter"

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>>388611962
>she will never princess carry you

why even live

>>388642805
>claw hands
eww

>>388612779
>stays away from your ideal damage range spamming 1k damage rockets

>>388601870
>40 bucks on PC
>no single player
>always fucked in the ass by """balance""" updates
>horrible gun feel
>either play a tank and be used as a meat shield or go light and die instantly
>No content updates
>no community servers or mods
>Only 3 gamemodes (ctf, payload and objectives) all ripped from tf2 and other gamemodes being small variations of those three (random players)
>timed loot events
>loot crates in a 40 dollar game