What does /v/ think of Kiryu's replacement for the Yaku

He's #1

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NEVER EVER

>>388587321

Already 100% it. Easily does with KHH guides and watching SaltyYen translate cutscenes.

I like him a lot, but it feels like he's already got most of his story planned out for him from that prologue video. It's a decent story but it would've been nice to see it play out a bit more naturally, maybe in cutscene form. Also looking for English subs of these intros

Just not a fan of his hair.

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>>388587727

What's wrong with it?

>>388587895
Too damn frizzy. I guess it's to make him look a little wild, but to me it just looks unattractive.

>>388587895
It's a shitty fro and looks nothing like that artwork

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>>388587149
>>388587895
Looks Kinda Familiar

>>388587149
>That hair

He's cool with me.

>>388587149
I'm Kosmo Kramer, the ASS MAN

>>388590505

kek

>>388587149
He looks like a real son of a bitch

>>388587149
>Also no, he's not black.
who knows?
He was born in whore house without father.
His father must be a marine guy

>>388592798

His father is obviously the Yakuza boss who helped him. It's way too obvious.

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>>388592798
>He was born in whore house without father.
>His father must be a marine guy

IDK, maybe he grew up in sunflower orphanage like Kazuya and Nishikayama?

>>388593621
no he didn't go any school or orphanage

>>388593621
Watch the prologue video. Ichiban spent his entire life inside of Kamurocho and was essentially raised by various residents.

>>388590030
i prefer if it was more like him, someone young and a complete mess like Daigo how you met him in Y2

>>388587895

The model's hair needs to be bigger.

>>388592798
>>388593621

t. never seen an Okinawan before

>>388593621
So his backstory is basically identical to Kiryu's? That's disappointing.

I really want to get into this series, how well do the first games emulate? I'm guessing I should play them all in order.

>>388594184
Don't listen to the goobers who would tell you not to start with Y0. It's a great way to get into the series, and then if you like it, Kiwami just came out, which is a modern remake of the first game.

>>388594184
see
>>388558474
>>388558536

>>388594184
play 0 and then play kiwami
You can emulate 1 well but 1's combat is fucking garbage

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>>388594280

>says he's willing to start with the originals
>telling him not to

>>388594349

It's clunky to be sure, but it's honestly not that bad if you block a lot, stick to short combos and avoid grabbing too much.

>>388594106
There are similarities, but I think Ichiban had a rougher upbringing by essentially being a street urchin while Kiryu had a decent enough upbringing that he finished high school.

Ichiban also got thrown into jail before he even made any sort of name for himself as a Yakuza so he really has nothing.

>>388594184
Why you emulate original game if you can play prequel and remake?
You don't have PS4?
Fuck off

>>388594360
0 is a better introduction to the series. Yakuza 1's combat sucks and would not be fun for a newcomer to the series with modern sensibilities.

>>388594184
>>388594184
1 and 2 will be so different for anyone who starts with 0 only because of the limitations back then, it'll be frustrating at first but it depends on you if you want to continue playing it. Is still worth for the experience just to see how awful compared to nowadays

>>388594614

I started with the first game last year, and it was perfectly fine.

>>388594614

t. underage

>>388594614
>game is dated meme

Faggots like you need to stick to watching let's plays. If you're going to complain about games being too dated for "modern sensibilities" then we might as well be telling everyone to skip 0 and Kiwami, and wait for 6 and Kiwami 2 becuase those are much less dated.

>>388594058
God, one of my Okinawan uncles was dark as hell. Worked on the beaches for a long as time, as I understand it.
Most of them didn't have particularly frizzy hair though, course most of them were old timers and kept their hair buzzed to short, so who knows.

Really, I'd say that the Yakuza boss that took Ichiban in being his father is just cliched enough for them to go with, but really, who knows at this point.

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>>388594106
Kiryu is typical oldschool yakuza hero like Ken Takakura yakuza movie protag.
Ichiban is an anti-hero.

>>388595670
>Ichiban is an anti-hero.

I hope so. I'm so sick of Good-two-shoes St. Kiryu.

>>388594632
How well do PS2 emulators run on a potato laptop? Better or worse than Dolphin?

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>his introduction is a phone game

>>388596390
b-but it's for PC too!

>I'm Ichiban
It's gonna be his punny catchphrase, isn't it?

>>388597330
he'll die soon

Ichiban seems like a cool guy
Would play game starring him

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>>388587149

I wish Majima were a woman.

Takaya Kuroda actually does a pretty decent Kenshiro.

WE

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>>388599964
I'm not sold on his ATATATATATA yet, but I'm pretty hyped for this to come out.

>>388600135
WUZ KYOUDAIS

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>>388600249

>>388600238
>Kenshiro, Jagi's kidnapped Lyn!
>Nani?
It will be glorious. I bet the dome is gonna be the Millennium Tower of the game.

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>>388587149

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>>388600049
>>388600605

Both way off.

>>388600551
Gonna fight Raoh shirtless on top of the Millennium Dome

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>voiced by Nishiki
>Kiryu doesnt recognize the voice

>>388600821

Neither did I actually.

>>388587149
His magenta suit is pretty hard on the eyes.

>>388601408
It's Kiryu's outfit with the colors reversed.

>>388587149
I bet that cutscene or something similar will be in Kiwami 2.

>>388600947
Its alright to admit you're deaf, anon. #1's voice is literally just Nishiki if he sounded more excitable. Youd think Kiryu would recognize his kyodai's voice.

>>388587149
WE

>>388587424
How involved is it? With Kenzan it was KHH for main story, ThePatrick's FAQ for substories and what is missable in a chapter, and Japanese guides for sword upgrades, locker keys, upgrade item locations, and geishas. Is the upgrade system really that easy to deal with because I thought you get to have modifiers for things that change depending on what you use.

>>388602082

Using the KHH guide you'll know the name of every item and weapon, and watching Salty Yen as you go, you get to decipher to story really well.

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>>388602191
That sounds way better than I was hoping.

>>388602858

It's pretty good. I knew how to do the farming and cooking and everything. Also fully understood the story.

>>388587149
I love him

>>388595489
shut up oldfag with your "retro" worship

Wish his backstory wasn't so similar to Kiryu's. Or that he wasn't being introduced in a smartphone game.

How is Kenzan? Is it as good as Ishin?

>that feel when no Awano game where he sings Love Machine

>>388587149
weird, doesn't have the presence of Kiryu, just seems like he's fit better as one of many side characters

>>388604738
From all accounts it varies. But generally I see people call a pretty rough around the edges kinda game (I guess because it was first game to use the engine would later be used in three)

Still. I think you should try it.

>>388604849
Wallpuncher man could be cool

>>388587149
Boring. He's literally Kiryu's copy with very similar backstory. I expected much more but well, I guess their writers doesn't give a fuck anymore.

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>>388604738
The story is really engaging and makes you want to follow it the whole way through though final boss felt shoehorned in severely, the characters are all great, it has some pretty enjoyable Heat Actions, the unique minigames are all pretty great (Horse archery, melon cutting, kabuki, jiraiya, fan throwing, that one hanafuda poem, that one tapping minigame with the geishas, and frog racing though I didn't care for doing that one as much), the boss fights barring the final one are all really enjoyable with Itou being by far the best one of the lot since it came out of right field, all the areas are just a joy to go through and it really sucks you into the time period, and Amon is amazing in it.

It's rough around the edges though.
>Tons of missable substories and Heat Actions.
>You'll notice as soon as you start that enemies with swords just never ever stop blocking.
3 also has this problem but it's expanded to everyone so you have to learn the way to exploit this by backing up and then as soon as they move retaliate.
>Sumo wrestlers can completely bypass your iframes on a dodge if they go for a grab which they do instantly without any warning.
>Getting stabbed (Not attacked) by a sword knocks you to the ground.
This can be mitigated with the Ass Quills if I remember right.
>Paired up with the last two points it takes you ages to stand back up again, like a good five seconds at least.
>Everything besides single katana and dual katana are worthless despite learning tons of Heat Actions for fists since no fists means no blocking against weapons.
Dual katana becomes the main form of attack once you get the extended combos on it about half way through the game due to the guard all around you, high combos, high attack speed, and the ability to gain double damage bonuses from having the raid paid of katana/kodachi.
>Tons of grinding for upgrade materials.
3, 4, and Dead Souls can't even compete.

It's great fun and I don't regret it at all.

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>>388594614
I beat 0 a week ago and Yakuza 1 is fine.

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So what I'm getting is that Ichiban is Kikuchiyo, what would Kiryu be?

>>388599417
>Daigo fucked up so bad that Kamurocho got taken over as soon as Kiryu entrusted it to him

>>388602858
>looks like a bear den, don't see any bears around though.

>>388587149
lol I just found this thread >>388608143
where he suggested it should be Tatsuya from Black Panther instead

>>388587149
should've been Tatsuya instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIv1UTXhlr8

>>388608697
>>388608916

His hair is faggotry.

>>388608916
lol 20 fighting styles
and has additional 5 in the sequel

Is there a lot of content?

>>388608916
>Traditional Martial Arts
>Fighting Martial Arts
help an anon here differentiate the two

>>388608916
>inb4 Ichiban's combat forte is to use more than 4 fighting styles
bet it's the only way to make him likeable

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>>388587321
Please stop... I'm a bitch for samurai games so it hurts to know we'll never get Ishin.

>>388609261
I guess 8 should be suffice:
>Luchador
>Punk
>Breaker
>any weapon focused style
>Boxing/Rush
>Judo
>Kung-Fu
>Akiyama style
>Grappler a la Shinada

>>388609476
how about that weird fighting style Zafina from Tekken uses? what's it called??

>>388600821
>implying kuroda won't voice the villain

>>388608916
>"SHINEEH BOGE!!!"
this protag's a savage compared to Kiryu,Saejima and Akiyama in this series

>>388609749
for me, Tanimura had savage Heat Actions
of course Majima is still no. 1

I think I'd be pretty cool of the crowds who congregate around Kiryu's fights could be heard cheering and yelling

Is that a fucking perm?

>>388594814
eyyy Oldboy
you watch any other Koran action films??

>>388609749
Tatsuya is savage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=751loAjs2m4#t=6m

The basic premise of his story is while fighting a gang, he does this and kills someone really important and is pretty much blackmailed into fighting in Purgatory or else they'll kill him for it.

>>388596198

After watching the opening cinematic in 0 I was so looking forward to seeing Kiryu be the troubled punk youth he should have been, but then NOPE, he's instantly back to acting like 40 year old Kiryu and being a shining beacon of morality who everyone looks to for guidance despite being an inexperienced orphan just out of his teens who's looking to make a name for himself in in the world of organized crime. It was fucking silly.

At least Majima was handled a tiny bit better.

>>388610650

Finally someone who fucking agrees.

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>>388608916
He's too busy being a champion in America

>>388610650
at what point in kiryu's story did you get the impression that he was a troublemaker punk?

>>388610926
Beating the salaryman and taking his money?

>>388610926

He was stated to always be getting into fights in highschool, and the intro to Zero shows him basically being a punk.

It's so fucking lame that he turns into a sage almost immediately.

>>388610650
Eh, Majima was even more of a goody-two-shoes, which made even less sense given how he's acted before and after when this game is set.

It feels like since 4 and onwards they've just been whitewashing the shit out of Majima, especially with one tragic never-mentioned-event after another.

Saejima shows up and pretty much becomes Majima's rival instead of Kiryu, and also is his best friend ever in backstory and tragically was put in jail in an event that lost Majima his eye. Then the whole blind girl shenanigans, where he could have just been with Makoto if he wanted to but decides not to. Then sometime after that, he hooks up with an idol (Park) and gets her pregnant, ruining her future even though she also gets an abortion and cuts ties with him. All of these events are like within the same 2-3 year period.

>>388611092
standard yakuza job.

>>388611157
I have no doubt he was always fighting in highschool.
Hes a fucking saint in the games and he fights constantly.

>>388610650

I would have liked to have seen him be a little more anxious about the bigger fights, considering it was the first time in his life he took on dozens and dozens of dudes at once.

>>388611248
>standard yakuza job.
It is, but we're talking about Kiryu who's basically Buddha.

>>388610885

>Yakuza game taking place in America

I think I might be able to get behind that.

Man these threads are fucking awful. It's true the more popular a series gets, the worse the threads are.
>WE WUZ posters
>"Start with 0" posters
>"ISHIN NEVER EVER" posters

Save me from this godforsaken hell

>>388611240
Even worse, after 4 he only serves as Saejima's punching bag, which is a bigger atrocity than the sob stories IMHO. I think they got him right in Y3, the cuhrazy was balanced with more realistic traits with neither side overpowering the other.

>>388611725
if only we have a general

>>388587149
I like him.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I like Kiryu, but I'm glad Ichiban is not like Kiryu. The whole Yakuza with a heart of gold thing doesn't really work well if said Yakuza is a fucking saint with the kindness of fucking Gandhi. I'm excited to have a shitkid as a protagonist.

Also, I fucking love how his name is Ichiban. It's just so fucking dumb.

>>388612179
It's too early to give any opinion of him really. Especially when Yokoyama is in charge of the story

>>388612267
>Yokoyama

I'm not super familiar with the writers. What's his deal? Is he good, bad?

>>388612426

Very bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTqAhunvxB8

For those who haven't heard yet, this will be your Push Me Under Water for the evening.

>>388587149
he looks like Italian mafia

>>388612738

Not as bad as the songs in Kiwami.

>>388612738
>no vocals from the original
It's already fucked

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>>388587149
Who playin kiwami with their cat in their lap

>>388612738
it's decent, definitely not anywhere near as bad as kiwami 1 was. I am kinda disappointed about the vocals being gone though
if they fuck up outlaw's lullaby and a scattered moment I'm cancelling my fucking pre order

>>388613441

So far I'm not impressed with the boss fights.

People who said they were tedious damage sponges were right.

>>388611725
0 localization was a mistake

>>388613658
But, do you have a cat in your lap?

>>388613748

No because cats are for attention whore like yourself.

>>388613658

>play on Hard as usual
>literally took 15 minutes to fight Shimano who is just a Mr. Takedown copy&paste

holy shit I hope not all the boss fights are this bad

>>388613796
This is not true and don't talk to me.

>Told Majima hasn't shown up for ages because he's hiding
>Kiryu says he'll stand out and is probably in an alley
>Still can't find him

Fucking hell Majima where are you?

>>388587149
I'm pretty happy he remotely resembles black people desu. Last time I heard how they treat them in Japan it was beyond horrifying but maybe things are changing there. Hopefully they'll start being a bit more open and have actual black people as MCs in their anime and video games too.

>>388614139
if he said he's hiding in plain sight he'll be under a cone by smile burger

I hope he's a mix of Akiyama, Oda, and Nishitani.

>>388587149
He has the face of a mook
Why couldn't they make the games about Akiyama instead?

>>388614294
Well now I feel stupid.

>Saejima's substories in 5
I swear, this is like a brand new man compared to 4. He's compassionate, he's not pissed off and scowling at everyone, he opens up to certain people, he's much more likable, I love it.

>>388587149
Damn what I love about Yakuza is kiryu gets in situations where he's completely fucked and can't get out of it but he finds a way somehow.

anybody know where the coin key for J4 is in kiwami?
the one map i have found shows it being basically on top on the lottery place but i cant use that yet, so is it in there or somewhere else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-xMwhcTVn0
what the hell happened here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFURV_8g0OY
the original was the title theme, and the kiwami 2 version sure as hell isn't

>>388587149
what kind of haircut you want senpai

>>388587149
I think they should cancel it and focus on Kiwami 3-5 + Kenzan and Ishin localization.

>>388616005

I think you should fucking kill yourself.

>>388616005
>Kiwami 3-5

What the fucking hell is the point of this?

Are there skippable missions in Kiwami?

>>388587895
> What's wrong
It's mobile version

>>388616920

+PC

Just finished 0, fuck Majima for cucking himself of Makoto in end :///

>>388610060
Not the guy you replied to but ive seen like a ton of them, fucking love them.

>>388620021
>cuck
I fucking hate underage /pol/ memer faggot

>>388620857
Cmon, he had no reason to be such a faggot and walk away. He loved her and still he chose to pursue being crazy fucker.

As someone who felt like Kiryu's story was done in Yakuza 2 and was dragged on WAAAAY too long, I am happy they are moving on to a new protagonist (Especially with the multi-protagonist stuff in 4 and 5 not working all that great). He seems pretty interesting, so hopefully this will allow for some decent story stuff.

About 2% japs get born with curly hair. They're severely discriminated against, like japs born with natural brown or red hair. Same way the West discriminated left handed people back in the day.

>>388587149
I like him, except the inverted color scheme from Kazuma.

>>388615681
I think the guy who uploaded it made a mistake.

Roar of the Twin Dragons is main manu theme, there is no whay it's gonna be that.

>>388620942

You are so fucking stupid, holy shit..

>>388620021
>>388620942
>not wanting someone who was a fucktoy for decades
>cuck

>>388620021
>>388620942

Grow the fuck up. That ending was beautiful, and showed what resolve Majima had wanting her to have a good life away from anymore bullshit.

>>388621420
explain
>>388621664
resolve to chase kiryu's ass around non-stop
wow

>>388620021
He just wanted her happy
being a Yakuza's woman make her suffer

>>388622013

It doesn't require explanation. You're a fucking imbecile.

>>388620021
>:///
>cuck
Fuck off you god damn /pol/ faggot.

>>388621235
Ichiban was going to get discriminated against for being a poor guy who lived off the streets anyway

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>>388600605
His story will straight up consist out of Eric Andre sketches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwybHcVPi20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu9E0wHDvB4
>buzz me aniki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoGSxuEynhk

this better be in

>>388622418
>licensed music
maybe in the japanese version
literally never ever in the western version

>>388622461
That music is part of the most iconic moment of the series, what the fuck sort of a shit is that supposed to be?

>>388622546
so was playing receive you reborn
not a single licensed song was kept in nearly all the new games. The PS2 games are the only ones that still have them because sega were expecting yakuza 1 to be a hit and then were hoping to make up for it with yakuza 2
after that they stopped giving half a shit because no one complains
if you want them back you better be prepared to start a petition or something

>>388622546
>most iconic moment of the series
Damn, it was? Don't recall that playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ti8tKjuByo

>>388622897
>3
>iconic anything

>>388623110
Found the 0-baby

I got my Kiawami steelcase. The back of it looks so awesome. Every game case should have a shiny dragon tattoo on it.

Playing as Mugen could be fun

>>388615283
In 4 he was fresh outa jail. Where he was waiting for his death for 25 fucking years.
Also, he had some sweet stories. But he was pretty sad and bitter because everything about his situation was really bad.

>>388624568
>newfags are pretending 3 wasn't butchered now

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I started with 0 and got to like this guy. Started up Kiwami he's just isn't the same, feels like he's putting on an act because he gave up trying to be a hero like he was in 0 so now he's putting on a show of being nothing but a violent psychotic clown. I saw from lurking Yakuza threads that longtime fans found him to be a bit out of character in 0, and I can see why. He's basically a different character in the old Yakuza games.

>>388627069
Kiwami butchered him. Much like everything else about 1.

>>388627189
Big betrayal by SEGA, Kiwami 2 also betrayal. Sad!

aaghh, its 3:30pm and I still havent gotten game. I fucking hate ups

>>388627189
Like I said I've only played 0 and Kiwami but Majima seems to going into a Saints-Row-esque decline. The devs don't know what exactly people like about him so they latch onto "he's so wild and crazy!" thing and fuck him up. Even though he wasn't all that wild and crazy in 0 but that was like a different character basically. I still love the bastard cause it's interesting in Kiwami it seems more like he's just putting on an act (like he does a lot in 0) while I assume in the originals he came across as more threatening. The character has definately changed, at the least. Wasn't he just a random mid-boss originally?

I have Yakuza 0 and bought Yakuza Kiwami.

I've never played Yakuza before. I should start with which one?

Pls no bully

>>388627069
You can already feel the divide by the end of 0, where out of the blue he adopts a cuhrayzee personality. I don't understand why 0 keeps "saving" him on multiple occasions instead of letting him fully go off the deep end and thus establishing him as the Majima from earlier games.

It's not really Kiwami's fault so much as 0's. Majima was randumb long before 0, I'm pretty sure it's not a fucking coincidence Mark Hamill was cast to dub him. If anything 0 made him a lot less wacky and crazy.

>>388627714
Yakuza 1, on PS2. Start with a PS4 game and you're a fucking idiot.

>>388627792
B-but I don't have a PS2 anymore...

>>388627762
Dude you nailed it! I was aware enough of the series to know that Majima is a recurring villian so when I played 0 I kept on waiting for the awesome part where he goes batshit but it never happens! He's a fucking boy scout until the end cutscene where it seems like he just decides to be insane for no reason. The closest thing to a heel-turn in Majima's story is the fight against Nishiki, which is awesome.

>>388627714
0, then Kiwami. If you have any intention of going back then you're probably better off emulating the older games, unless you think you won't feel awkward by rolling back to more outdated feeling games after 0/Kiwami/Kiwami 2.

It's up to personal preference.

>>388627714
0 then Kiwami

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The new protag never sticks around. Nero didn't, Apollo didn't, Raiden didn't. Kiryu will be the protagonist for the game after this one again.

>>388627936
Then get one or emulate. You don't start these games with the PS4 entries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQMBuh_ASiQ

>>388627656
I'm happy you like the series but you should have at least played Y2 so you can actually understand why the japs crowned Majima the most popular character

>>388628002
Majima went nuts when he stopped taking shit from everybody and saw Makoto get shot.

>new yakuza hero isn't tetsuya naito

kill me

>>388628096
Just let him start with 0, who cares. You guys should be glad that the series is selling more than ever.
When did the fanbase become a bunch of elitists.
Also while Y2 holds up rather well, Y1 definitely doesn't

>>388627189
>Kiwami butchered everything about 1
>despite having a better engine, better graphics, better combat, better controls, better va, and a better nishiki
yeah but the original is clearly superior because you don't like the majima system and the ost amirite

>>388628236
No. Only a nu-fan advocates playing LESS games and not experiencing the series in it's true fashion. 1 is timeless and is perfectly playable.

>>388628226
LOS

>>388628079
Jin Kazama in Tekken did

>>388628002
I'd say the fight at Dojima HQ was the better boiling point, even if that fight was awesome.

>>388628165
That gets him as far as Dojima, after that he gets talked down by Sera. There are multiple points where you think Majima lost it but he gets saved by a character giving him a speech and his berserk mode deactivates.

@388628318
>1 is timeless
you almost had my (You), you dirty dirty boy ;-)

>>388628019
fug I haven't played 0 but was planning on picking up Kiwami this afternoon

>>388628236
It's not that fans care what how you get into the series. It's the stupid advice that they give to prospective fans who want to play the games and the limited knowledge they have that shits up threads.

>>388628401
That was because nobody liked Kazuya until he became the villain, everyone loves Kiryu.

>>388587149
WE

>>388628419
>That gets him as far as Dojima, after that he gets talked down by Sera. There are multiple points where you think Majima lost it but he gets saved by a character giving him a speech and his berserk mode deactivates.
Getting talked down by the future 3rd chairman of the Tojo doesn't exactly mean he stopped living his life on his terms. He just saw the value of what Sera was proposing so he agreed.

>>388628493
>It's not that fans care how you get into the series
It definitely is.

If anyone mentions how they started with 0, they're REEEE'd at and told to fuck off.

>>388628419
>That gets him as far as Dojima, after that he gets talked down by Sera. There are multiple points where you think Majima lost it but he gets saved by a character giving him a speech and his berserk mode deactivates.

I honestly though the turning point would have been after he killed that Chinese massage guy, but he doesn't kill him, then I thought it would be when he teams up with him to kill the Makoto look-alike but he doesn't do that either. After that I just saw him as a more interesting version of Kiryu that can breakdance.

>>388587149

>Also no, he's not black.

He's clearly a half breed and the one drop rule applies.

>>388628493
>It's the stupid advice that they give to prospective fans who want to play the games and the limited knowledge they have that shits up threads.
i agree, recommending 1 over kiwami is stupid advice

>>388628774
Because they start giving shitty advice like telling newfriends to start at 0 or Kiwami, when they shouldn't, since a lot of what made Yakuza great is spoiled

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So how long did it take you guys to put this tedious fuck down? I was punching him for about 15 minutes. I actually thought it was a rigged "you can't win" fight because of how long it takes.

>>388628894
I'll bite. Elaborate why starting at 1 over Kiwami is shitty advice.

>not black
eewww

>>388629094
You can argue against starting with 0, but you can't make legitimate arguments against starting with Kiwami.
It's literally 1, but better in every way except soundtrack.

>>388629281
>butchered soundtrack
>Majima anywhere system
>bullshit boss fights (no newfag is going to enjoy the Jingu bossfight in Kiwami unlike 1 where it's easier)
>newfags will either not play past Kiwami or have a tough time with Y2 to Y5 and can't appreciate the evolution of the series and characters
I'll agree that the re-make looks great though, and I'm very happy that Sega even did something like this.

>>388629834
>butchered soundtrack
alright, but it's not really a deciding factor either way
>majima anywhere system
not necessarily a con, you have to explain why you dislike it.
>1 is easier
not a con, git gud
>newfags will either not play past Kiwami
complete strawman and you could say the exact same thing for starting with 1
>or have a tough time with Y2 to Y5
good job Kiwami 2 has been announced then

Kiwami has
>better engine
>1080p/60fps
>better graphics
>better LOD
>better combat
>better VA
>addtional cutscenes
Kiwami is almost a 1:1 remake but with QoL improvements.

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yai

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>substories in 0
>fun shenanigans, everyone mucking around, you actually care about the side characters a bit
>substories in Kiwami
>everyone is trying to scam you out of you're money and you beat the shit out of them, substory over

They must know how different it is considering Kiryu reminisces about 0 substories when you sing karaoke

>>388630940
>no steelbook for me because they had no stock for those who pre ordered

>>388628401
Replaced by Lars in Tekken 6

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>>388631029
It's almost as if money wasn't a problem for most people back in 80's japan and everyone's just a fucking scumbag nowadays.
really activates the almonds

>>388631029
never played original, but those kiwami substories are same as originals, aren't they?

>>388630416
>majima anywhere isn't a con
Except in Y1 there was no Majima anywhere system, he was just a badass that liked fighting Kiryu. Story wise that made Majima cool to get behind.
In Kiwami he's just a punching bag to earn upgrades for the DoD style and messes with his character
>git gud
Boss fights are more manageable in 1 since they don't sponge hits or heal. But if newfags are willing to fight damage sponges over regular fights then by all means go for it.
>strawman
fair enough. A lot of fans started with Y3 or Y4. They just won't be appreciate the evolution of the series as a whole.
>Kiwami 2
We'll be lucky if we can even get a localization within two years. Also, since it's not out yet, it might be dogshit due to the dragon engine they used for Y6.

>>388632096
PC Fighter is a new sidequest character in Kiwami

Is it worth trying to beat majima the first time? I think it gives oyu like 100 upgrade points

>>388632096
Mostly.

>>388632232
Can we stop shitting on the engine already. Everyone acts like the other engines were great when all the PS3 games run at sub 720, sub 30fps with screentearing. PS4 literally just bruteforces it 60 and without a PS4 Pro you'll still get screentearing, but trees and shit still pops in after 2 meters

>>388632696
Even in 3 and 4 we had pretty steady 30 fps.
In 5 - not so much, but it was a new iteration.
In 6 even cutscenes feel choppy, not to mention gameplay, which is 20-25 FPS most of the time. It can't even maintain 30 without Pro.

>>388632696
0 on PS4 proved that Y5's engine was good, the hardware just couldn't handle it. Y4 was also great on the PS3.
Not sure where you're getting screen tearing from but its not showing up in my game or other Y0 games I've seen

>>388633197
>hardware
Sorry meant to type PS3 hardware

>>388633197
Did Zero really use Y5 engine? I thought Zero looked worse than 5..

>>388633192
Didn't all the PS3 games run at 1024x760 or something. They better run somewhat well considering how small they're and how everything apart from the man character models doesn't really look that great.

I really doubt he's the real new MC for future main entries. Just for the online game or something.

Looks like Fist of the North Star game doesn't use Dragon Engine after all. It uses Kiwami engine.

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/08/29/yakuza-general-director-explains-hokuto-ga-gotoku-isnt-made-newer-dragon-engine/

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>>388620021
Congrats, you missed the point.

>>388634318
Ever since Y5 they are native 720p. Before they were 1024x768.

Also Hokuto ga Gotoku isn't on Dragon Engine, but on Y5-Kiwami engine.
www.siliconera.com/2017/08/29/yakuza-general-director-explains-hokuto-ga-gotoku-isnt-made-newer-dragon-engine/

>>388634734
>The “New Yakuza Series” project will tell stories set in Kamurocho, Tokyo after the events of Yakuza 6: The Song of Life, and include developments for both consoles and new platforms, such as smartphone and PC. The protagonist of the new project is a new character named Ichiban Kasuga, who is voiced by Kazuhiro Nakaya.

https://gematsu.com/2017/08/yakuza-online-announced-smartphones-pc

He is debuting in the online game, but he is going to be the protagonist of the new console game in development.

>>388634959
You can kinda tell by the lighting and stiff animations. But i guess it makes sense since they have more experience with that engine for now so it's quicker to make

>>388629202
about 5 minutes.
he's a shakedown clone, and you can deal with him exactly the same as shakedown
so just switch to rush, bait charges and do quick attacks
you'll always have enough exp after the dojima HQ fight to get the rush mode kiwami move anyway

>>388635190
I was hoping they got rid of ragdoll stuff in Dragon Engine.

Reminder to newcomers to the series that you should just wait for Kiwami 2 to come out. Every other game has now automatically aged like milk and is shit. Don't play the others games.

>>388635481
Why would you even wait for Kiwami 2, it's old news already.

>>388635481
I've only played 0 and have kiwami
I'm thinking after kiwami I'll just go 3 4 then 5, dead souls then 6 then kiwami 2

>>388635789
>playing old, shit games
Wow dude.

Shame these threads have just become 90% shitposting and memes.
It's rare to see a fanbase actively start dislike their own series. But i guess the people that are the loudest aren't exactly the fanbase

>>388635272
they don't tell you that you need to buy those Kiwami moves in order to use them. I assumed you automatically had access to them after Kiryu uses it in prison. Nope, you have to find it on that dumbass upgrade wheel thing. I'm salty about the first few hours of Kiwami, they are sloppy as hell. They also don't explain the Climax Bar thing very well at all.

>>388636196
It's less about hating the series, but hating the newer set of fans that recent entries are bringing with them. The hate for 6 is honestly mostly justified and it has some objective shortcomings. The japs seem to agree, if the amazon JP reviews are any indication.

>>388622339
>Daigo which one is the real me?

>>388636392
>Kasuga's in the house
>Kasuga you're not in the house
>You're nowhere
>Kasuga... I'm your father..

>>388636196
That's why I'm leaving this place for good now.

>tfw my steel book of Kiwami has a dent
Why

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>During the Yakuza conference, guy makes a joke asking North Korea not to send any missiles
>Couple days later North Korea sends a missile over Hokkaido, causing evacuation alarms to go off in that region

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GssjAlPfl60

I can't actually think of a bigger PR blunder

>>388637101
>>Couple days later North Korea sends a missile over Hokkaido, causing evacuation alarms to go off in that region
wait what

>>388637227
It happened yesterday 6am JST time
The missile landed to the east of Hokkaido by about 700 miles from land into the ocean

>>388637101
>Guy starts entire war because of a joke

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>>388587149
Does he "umu"?

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>>388637407
Just a prank bro.

>>388637101
>we live in a timeline where video games cause wars
honestly kind of cool

>>388637101
>actor call Korean 'Chosun-jin'
>'Chosun' means literally Korea
>South Koreans actually buttmad over this
>SEGA apologized
I don't understand Korean

>>388636196
>shitposting
This is the biggest annoyance in this thread, you can easily tell which posts are just baiting and false flagging, you have both people who shitpost about the older games being unplayable garbage to people who shitpost how starting with the newer one makes you a "nu-fan." By now you no longer know who' genuine and who isn't.

I swear I'm just getting too old for this shit.

>>388638861
朝鮮人(Chousen-jin) can be viewed as a racist term for Koreans.

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>>388639424
>calling Korean Korean is racist
Korean are fucking stupid

>>388637101
Isn't that what literally happened in Europe? Some parody French newspaper made a comic or whatever about muslims and that kickstarted a massive influx of terrorism attacks all over Europe.

>>388587149
not Akiyama/10

>>388640013
The french cartoonist drawing Mohamed and the resulting attacks were straight up cause/effect. The missile is almost certaintly a coincidence.

How fucked is nippon if N Korea goes off the chain? I know nothing about Japanese military.

>>388594280
>goobers
>>388594349
>>388594528
Holy fuck, this is the state of Yakuza threads now.

>>388634959
Hope this means we'll get 60fps combat

>>388640308
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Military_Strength_Index

>>388639678
The modern word is kankoku-jin 韓国人 which is similar to how south koreans identify themselves as hanguk or whatever. I think they get buttmad because 朝鮮人 is a term that was used before north/south korea split.

>>388640529
>japan, SK and fucking India make the top 20
>NK nowhere in sight
I'd be a pretty angsty dictator too if I was being BTFO by poo in loos.

>>388640308
If N. Korea goes ballistic then it just gives the U.S. a reason to bomb them.
If that happens, China gets involved, and if China gets involved, you can bet that Russia jumps into the fray along with the rest of Europe.
>ww3 happened because of a Yakuza/RGG press conference fuck-up
Love for that that to be in a text book in the future.

>>388640941
NK has nuclear weapons and Japan doesn't

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Looks like a pretty cool guy. Reminds me of Akiyama.
Also, where THE FUCK IS MY STEELBOOK ZAVVI? YOU SAID IT WOULD BE DELIVERED TODAY.

>>388629218
The Majima Everywhere system for one, it ruins his character and also unnecessarily adds scenes to justIfy his appearances. Of course, I can understand it's fan service, but that's all the more reason to play the Y1 and Y2 to get it.

>>388641019
>tfw your grandchild will be learning in school about the day a HnK x Yakuza crossover was revealed

>>388587149
>From 0 to Hero
woah, what did they mean by this?

>>388641236
never played original and played kiwami
it ruins nothing for me
only nostalgia fags care

>>388641019
>And today kids. We're gonna learn about how WW3 started all because of the greatest PR fuck up known to man...

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>that melancholic piano piece when learning of Tamura's "death" is nowhere to be seen in Kiwami's OST

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>>388639678
>i don't understand their language/culture so i'll just call them stupid

>>388641373
>your introduction to the greatest Yakuza characters was le pants stealing meme man

>>388641373
>nostalgia fags
But I played Y1 the first time 2 years ago. And then I played the entire series leading up until 0's release in January.

>>388587149
I don't give a fuck about any of the Yakuza protagonists that aren't Kiryu or Majima and I never will.

>>388641652

But can you admit Kiryu has become an extremely boring character?

>>388641652
The orange man doesn't give a shit what you think, plus they fucked up Kiryu's ending. so they need a replacement more than ever

>>388641652
I also don't want change and want every sequel to use the Zero combat system without changing ANYTHING.

>>388641776
I'm not him but no

>>388641981

So you actually like one-note Saint Kiryu? Worst thing about Zero is how quickly he turned back into 40 year old Kiryu.

Got me a copy of Ishin right here, what are the translation guides I should be following to do the main story and substories?

>>388642154

KHHSubs

SaltyYen

>>388641973
>Zero combat system
It's the same framework we've had since 1 and that's only changed in 6 and KW2.

>>388642086
>Saint
I bet you call Kenshiro moralfag

>>388641883
What if Nagoshi and Masayoshi just scrapped everything and started a new Yakuza series with its own universe?

>>388610650
>being a shining beacon of morality who everyone looks to for guidance despite being an inexperienced orphan just out of his teens who's looking to make a name for himself in in the world of organized crime. It was fucking silly.

Completely agree.

>>388641394
>>388641257

This is horrifying, yet so fucking funny.
And you can bet that there is an alternate timeline where Yakuza and Sega really did cause WW3.

Also, does that mean that Kim watched that stream?
Does that mean he's a fan?

>>388642303
Wouldn't sell, people want to see majima and kiryu and this is one of SEGA'S cash cows.
>>388610650
This so much, I was expecting him to be more like Tatsuya but nope he robs one guy and he's back to old kiryu.

I don't care about characters so much but get bored with the same copypasta Kamurocho.

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>>388642591
>tfw the best and most comfy area is stuck in the worst mainline game

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>>388642565
>what is Black Panther

>>388642712
5?

>>388642712

But 4 is the worst

>>388642794
I'm just gonna assume you're a retard and leave it at that.

>>388642794

something that sold like shit

>>388642591

Shit taste.

>>388643107
>>388642930
It had a sequel though. Can't have been that big of a bomb.

>>388611240
Majima's shit was fucked before 0. He was fucking fed up with all the stuff that happened to him.
Also Kiryu was never really a "bad guy". The gamd showed how hewas fucking ruthless through his gameplay and the way he talks so casually. Same for Majima.

>>388642867
4's only flaw was that it was stuck in only city. And rubber bullets

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>https://gbatemp.net/threads/kurohy%C5%8D-ry%C5%AB-ga-gotoku-shinsh%C5%8D-yakuza-black-panther-translation-project.371411/page-10
NEVER EVER

>>388643547
>some literal whos
Well obviously, anon

>>388643642
Who did you expect to do that? Carmack?

>Majima was a terrifying thread in the original
>literal ass-clown in the remake

I'm glad this was only $30. So far it's been pretty shit.

>>388644963
>Majima was a terrifying thread in the original
>Prequel turns him into a pussy who can't kill anyone
What a shit game Zero was, huh?

>>388645154

He wasn't an assclown in Zero.

>>388645279
>what is the entire hostess minigame

>>388645413

When was he ever an assclown in those?

>>388645154
>>388645413

0 was more serious and conflicted, the only times you seem him goofing around is on substories and cabaret and possibly on Breaker style. But outside of that he was more serious in the entire game

>>388645512
Now you're just being ignorant or you just didn't play the minigame.
>>388645517
Doesn't change the fact that he was a threat in 1 and turned into a pussy in Zero. That automatically makes it shit!!!

>>388645413
A business he took seriously?

>>388645794
>Now you're just being ignorant

How so? He was never an assclown in that part of the game.

Tell me when he was.

>>388645794
Sounds more like you're grasping. Majima took the hostess business seriously.
He was also never a pussy in Zero. He was trapped by Sagawa and was repenting for not being there for his kyodai during the hit.

>>388645794
He had to restrain himself so he could get back in Shimano's good graces and finish his job at the cabaret. Did you play the game?

What did they say to each other?

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>/v/ said shimano is just damage sponge with tons of health
>mfw cancel rush combo with dodge over and over again and his health is gone in a few secons

>>388645794

When was he ever an assclown during the minigame? He took that shit pretty seriously.

>>388646312


What difficulty are you playing in?

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>>388645794
>Doesn't change the fact that he was a threat in 1 and turned into a pussy in Zero.
Did you even play the games or even realize that 0 goes before 1? Are you baiting or just born retarded?
No, let me save you that breath since you need oxygen for your brain.

Majima was restrained in 0 because he was like a dog in leash by Shimano's brother due to what he did in the past which caused him to lose an eye, this was all a way to pay his mistakes, at the end of 0 he says fuck you and does what he wants that's why in 1 he acts like an assclown, guy has no leash nor someone to hold him down

>>388646142
so did Majima and his kyodai planning to betray Shimano clan?

>>388646398
Did it once on normal and once on hard. Maybe people just want bosses to die in 3 hits

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>lose against Kuze like a bitch multiple times during the first fight
>he's a fucking joke in the next ones

>>388646638

On hard you rush moves barely do anything to him and only the finishers do any noticeable damage. Most people probably just didn't have the Kiwami Heat moves for when he was glowing so the fight dragged on. I can understand people's complaints though. He's just a lazy Mr. Shaekdown reskin that takes too long and offers no challenge whatsoever.

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>>388646671
>lose against Kuze like a bitch multiple times during the first fight
Is this your first time playing a Yakuza game? because since 1 they teach you that not everyone stops at your punches and will punch back

>>388646930
>Is this your first time playing a Yakuza game?
That's a guaranteed yes for more than half of the western fanbase nowadays.

christ are you people seeing the other Yakuza thread?

I don't think I've EVER seen one that bad.

>>388647118
What's happening?

>>388630416
>>388632232
What's the consensus? Is Kiwami good or not? I got hyped from seeing webms of Best Friends playing previous Yakuza games and wanna get in on it. I already pre-ordered the game anyways but I'd like to hear anon inputs on it.

I still think it's gonna be fucking sick. It looks pretty cool.

>>388647198

endless shitposting

>>388647216
To me, it's mediocre.
Not bad, but sometimes fucking annoying.
It has cool moments and overall pretty enjoyable.

>>388647118
The one yesterday was just as bad as that one, just longer. I don't even know who's shitposting now or who's being genuine. It's all fucked. I'm still a staunch believer in people plating in release order from the start however. Or at least from 3 onward with the 1 and flashbacks.

>>388647216
Kiwami is pretty good, just not as a starting point if you want to get into the series.

>>388647269

There really needs to be a Yakuza general.

>>388641652
I like Akiyama but his moveset is unsatisfying as fuck to use, especially in 5.

Would've actually preferred Saejima to be the new protag (on the condition that they stop fucking sending him to prison) after how they fixed up his moveset in 5 + how he apparantly has his own family within the clan now (that we never see for some reason) but he's probably too old.

>>388647269
Yeah, I just checked.
I miss comfy threads.
It was almost like sitting aroung campfire with bros. And Yakuza was that campfire.

Damn.

>>388647546
Yeah, because rampant trip/name faggotry is what these threads need.

>>388647118
looks same as yakuza threads in April or May desu
>endless memeallow 'how 6 and kiwami is bad' posting

>>388647546
For what? Yakuza threads were good because they were once in a blue moon.
Anons would run out of shit to talk about after the first thread if a general was started

>>388647819

I'll agree Kiwami was bad, and the only bad thing about 6 is it being like 4 hours long story-wise.

>>388647909
>were

/vg/ is actually decently moderated.

>>388647959
6 ruins every character it touched.

>>388647749
just ignore any shitposter and anyone who asks what game they should start, you know, I know everyone knows thiese are just bait posts to derail and shitpost. Just ignore them. Why can't people keep that in mind?

>>388647546
No there doesn't. Having these threads 3 times a day on /v/ is already way more than enough. Shitposting and in-fighting is at an all time high.

>>388648032

Haruka was already ruined in 5.

>>388648087

It's mainly shitposting sparked by "where do I start"?

Questions like that wouldn't exist in a general.

>>388648074
Yeah, but I mean really - before there were almost no shitposters at all. Only occasional "japanese sleeping dog rip-off" idiots.
Man, do I miss those guys now.

>>388648195
Only if there was a pastebin in the OP about getting started with the series or whatever. Which would of course cause more fighting over what games the pastebin advises people start with.