>he plays PUBG or Overwatch >doesn't play an FPS that

>>388549363
>>388549403
Because my entire childhood was Quake 2 and Quake 3 Arena, and these days nobody else appreciates this kind of shooter and i'm not exactly good enough to keep up with the remaining 10 or so people that care and completely outskill me.

I've just stopped playing shooters entirely since its all garbage these days.

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>no reloading
>only relies on being high on caffine and twitch spraying for kills
>doesn't require any tactics, meta, skill based posistioning, team understanding, character understanding, map knowledge

Quake champions is like babbys first fps
literally just run and shoot

How long until the Crowbcat video?

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>>388549363
>>388549403

>the opponent literally respawns in 3 meters away from with nothing just to be fragged over and over again like shit

>>388549363
I play all 3 and have fun doing so, faggot.

>>388549363
I just can't enjoy any team based fps after playing Tribes 2 for half a decade.
I miss the vehicles, I miss jetpacking, I miss the bases, and so on. I also prefer CTF over team deathmatch games.

>>388549363
This looks identical to the new Doom multiplayer, which nobody liked.

>>388549363
PUBG is the most casualized form of shooter yet, a battle royale game where you can win without killing a single player. Now it's impossible to play a shooter that doesn't involve 5 minutes of running between gunfights. Fucking casuals.

>>388549363
looks stupid

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>>388549363

I don't have an excuse, I play Quake Champions every day.

I'll just be happy if the game can have its little niche with a healthy enough playerbase. I know it won't be popular.

>>388549363
The FPS market is over saturated and we all want instant gratification. You need to realize that skill isn't valued in the current year.

>>388549363
>>388549403
I dunno if I could get into this. Get one-shotted by some autist hopping around who you don't even see just doesn't seem fun at all.

>>388549363
Nobody thinks PUBG takes skill or tactics though

>>388549363
>he plays quake
>not tribes
slow/10

>>388549363
thats slow down right?

>>388549363
>>388549403
>p2w garbage

>>388549684
You never played quake or are so bad at it that the only thing you can do is shitpost.

>>388550149
you don't know what you're talking about

>>388550478
git gud

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>>388549363
Don't need one, because I play games like Xonotic or UT2k4 instead of hero shit like Quake Champions

>>388549684
Reloading is a red flag.

>>388550637
clawz won and that guy has no fucking strategy and the only reason he managed win any games at Quake live sunday cups was because he has godly lg aim.

Has anyone ripped Doomguy's models, yet?

I don't want to commit myself to just playing one game exclusively.

>>388549684
>complaining about no meta
meta is the worst thing to happen to multiplayer games in recent memory

>>388550694
Xonotic is so good, why can't it just have more players.

>>388550819
you're right everyone should just do the exact same thing and the only deciding factor should be mechanical skill

>>388549363
>shit at game
>"reeee only noskill faggots play this game"

If the games really take no skill, then surely you, anon, should be able to get atleast Masters, right?

>>388550735
reloading introduces weapon skill
knowing how many shots you have in a fire fight makes for a higher skill ceiling as you need to know if you have enough rounds to kill the guy you're after
whereas this trash is just
LOL UNLIMITED SHOTS PEW PEW PEW

>>388549363
>doesn't play an FPS that requires actual skill
But I do play paladins with mommy inara

>>388549363

>posts webm of himself with quad
>skill

>>388550907
exactly

>>388550907
Actually, yeah, that's exactly what games should be about. Pure, raw skill.

>>388549363
>>388549403
Nice aimbot. Please do post more, it's very interesting seeing a computer program playing the game for you.

>>388550694
>UT2k4
are people still playing this?

I got old and don't have the time to get gud anymore

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>>388549684
Yeah 'cuz you need those things to play Overwatch.

>>388550962
>hiding around a corner and hitting a button is a skill in shooters now
wew lad

>>388551012
cypher is quake pro who has been playing over decade.

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>>388551012
Sorry quake doesn't have it built in like overwatch.

>>388549363
I'm shit at fpses
slow reflexes, bad hand-eye coordination

>>388551090
>running around like a mongoloid spraying everywhere is skill

oldfags make me laugh

>>388550907
Yes?
Is that an issue?

>>388549363
Was never any good at these games, preferred RPGs and slower stuff

>>388549363
i would play it but the hero skills thing legitimately threw me off of playing it

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>>388549363
>play blue haired bitch
>see timer on screen
>vanish 5 seconds before quad spawns
>stand on it
>telefrag anyone who tried to pick it up and get free quad
>skill
Yeah, so much skill.
More like Overwatch with bunnyhop.

>>388551014
UT2k4 is more popular than UT 2017.

>>388549684
You have never played Quake (or any Arena FPS), be honest.

>>388550663
Nah. Might as well play CoD if all you want to do is sneak up on people and one-shot them.

>>388551078
overwatch literally requires more planning and skill just by having reloading
Look at his previous posts

>>388550907
yeah, skill is what matters

>>388550943
This

>>388550663
>git gud
There's no incentive to git gud.

>>388550907
Sounds perfect.
Just give players a gun, a map, and movement. That's all that's needed. Everything else is superfluous and gets in the way of a raw contest of skill.

>>388551189
There's no way nobody would see you vanish before picking up the Quad Damage. It lasts for 2-3 secs tops and Quad is always in a large, spacious room where it can be seen from any direction.

>>388549363
Quad damage, very balanced so much skill, you totally outplayed everyone by one shoting everyone without any counterplay just because you got a random spawn.

>>388551152
are you describing overwatch? because in quake you actually have to aim to hit targets none of the weapons spray fuckngi anythnig you would know this if you played any real shooters

>champions

nah

>>388550943
well you can get to Masters by just playing Mercy which requires literally zero skill

dps main master btw

>>388549684
>this is what overwatch babbies actually believe

>>388551193
damn I should reinstall
last time I tried I couldn't find any servers

>>388551459
Then why is support the most underrepresented role in upper ELOs, if it's so easy to climb with them?

>>388550985
>himself

>>388549363
I don't support shit netcode.

>>388551548
That's strange. I booted it up a few weeks ago and could find like ~200 players on servers.

>>388549684
Controlling armor pickups alone takes more brainpower than anything in PUBG or Overwatch.

>>388549363
what's with the disgusting overlay on the viewmodel

>>388551534
Well, it's not like they're wrong.

Games like Overwatch and League require more then just raw, mechanical skill. There's knowledge factors aswell as game sense. I wouldn't say Quake is like a baby's fps, I'd say it's one that requires on more of a simple skillset.

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>>388551376
You don't know maps nor mechanics of the game and I doubt you even played it.
You can hop half of any map in phase, trash.

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>finally getting worn out of 1.6 and TF2 after 15 years
>buy QC
>mfw
It's like being a kid again

You know why arenafags love movment so much? Because they have to rely on the enemy being bad at aiming to survive. They love mashing space bar and zooming around through copious health drops and power ups. They don't have to be good themselves, just move enough so that the enemy can't hit you while you spray shotgun pellets in their general direction and chip at their health. It's not superior gameplay or skillful aiming or master tactics, it's using movement as a crutch for poor reaction time and lack of skill.

When they have to play a fps that requires you to shoot first, you can't run away or bounce across the map instantly, they fold.

>>388549684
Fucking Overwatch baby.

>>388551706
>Controling
Lol more like getting lucky, or having an autistic timer next to you that tells you when its time to bhop to your pickups that make you imortal.

>>388549363
i don't play those
and i certainly won't play an asymmetrically balanced game and pretend it "requires actual skill"

>>388551706
Why are you acting like OW and PUBG dont have pickups lol

>>388551459
>sucking dicks requires zero skill
seems like no girl ever blew air on your dick

>>388549363
my excuse is that bethesda fucked up the netcode for this game, and it feels like im playing with 100 lerp with how much delay there is to everything even though i have 30 ping

>>388551790
Nice baseless accusations.

>>388551858
They're not as crucial as in Quake.

>>388551826
I am the prince of Nairobi. See, I can make things up, too!

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>>388549363
newest dead game fotm
enjoy your 1000 peak players on launch day

meanwhile i'll just have fun in overwatch in my diamond matches and enjoy myself with all those nice and skillful people i've met

>>388549684
>meta
>requires skill
Fuck you, meta is the cancer that makes games like overwatch so repetitive. Meta always ends up making every match the fucking same because everyone uses the most overpowered combos/team comps/whatever to eke out the very maximum advantage they can possibly have. When everyone uses the same shit the game might as well be decided by a coin toss and any characters, compositions or strategies that aren't "meta" might as well not exist.

>>388551758
you have hp packs and armour packs, and unlike overwatch you don't have infinite ammo or skills on a cooldown (only the new quake has skills) so no, they're still wrong, you have to have game sense and knowledge as well not that those factors mean a lot even in overwatch either but raw skill and smarts should be the only factors

>>388549363

Netcode is complete garbage
It's really evident the "your FPS is your upload rate" is too much for the fragile servers to handle
Also the really inconsistent and fucked microstutter or frame rate traps no matter what settings you use.

At least a couple of new maps popped up without me realising it. Now if only they were fun to hop around without shit like the server rewinding you because "oh you jump a lot as Doom so I guess you double jumped instead of strafejumped so have fun losing speed and suddenly flying up into the air".

>>388552027
But if both teams are using the same compositions, doesn't that make the playing field even? Like Quake players say all FPS should be?

>>388549363
I play minecraft

>>388552027
What's your point? You either have a meta, or you have no choices at all. As soon as you introduce choice into a game, you will automatically have an optimal choice, and thus a meta. Ultimately, no matter what, every player will be using the exact same thing whether they're offered a choice or not.
So if one of them isn't decided by a coin toss, then why would the other be?

>>388552139
That's fine when the game is designed to have a perfectly level playing field but with shit like overwatch you're missing out on a lot of potential content and creativity because everyone needs that absolute maximum chance to win.

>>388552102
Well, for a first, knowing the locations of items and objects on the map are the baseline of knowledge required to be proficient at either Overwatch or League.

Second, since things like reactiontime are largely genetic, and don't have a lot of room to be improved, wouldn't that make the upper rosters extremely static?

>>388551964
Controlling 200 health heal packs in OW is critical to playing flankers or protecting yourself from one, massive part of the game.
Besides this is just a niche part of a bigger concept, controlling areas. There will always be chokepoints or good kill zones to control in video games, this is not a fucking quake exclusive thing.

>>388549684
Jesus, you're uninformed. You're either baiting or just really stupid.

>>388550478
You're supposed to strafe/rocket jump as well, lad. It's a two-way street.

>>388552317
Due to balance changes, what's best and what's viable change each patch. It leaves the playing field extremely dynamic. Not to mention that almost every Hero has pretty obvious counters, that make coutnerpicks effective. Even so, someone extremely proficient with a Hero can play them in any meta. It's why we still see Gm Hanzos, and Junkrats that carry games.

>>388549363
>>388549403
wheres the skill here? he's just aiming his crosshair over people and shooting

i play and enjoy both, QC for high paced reflex shooting and PUBG for tactical approach, what now

>>388550907
>you're right everyone should just do the exact same thing and the only deciding factor should be mechanical skill
>this is a sarcastic statement in 2017

It feels so good to see Quakefags get BTFO. They're some of the most insecure bunch of virgins I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.

They know that their game doesn't require any brain cells to play. It's not a thinking game. So they cling to this silly notion of it having the most
RAW
MECHANICAL
SKILL
(Where tribes has it beat out) Overwatch quite frankly is a more complex game since there's so many factors you have to take into account. Team comp, ult management, matchups, managing reloading, etc

>>388552648
Are people actually comparing Quake to PUBG? Holy shit

>>388549363
I already play rainbow six siege.

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>>388549363
>nu-Quake
>skill

>>388552728

>>388552781
It literally plays just like Quake 3 but with some additional abilities.

>>388549363
this shit is gunna fail just like lawbreakers for the exact same reasons

>>388552728
>It's not a thinking game.
Holy shit, that's hilarious. This board is great

>>388552839
confirmed for never playing quake3.

>>388552332
memory is a skill but you don't see the broadcasting competitive simon says on espn

i have no fucking clue what you just said because I don't play ASSFAGGOTS but real sports is a good comparison, genetics can get you very far and you act as if quake only has one map or something, if anything it's harder to learn because of how much faster you have to be to be any good at it. and in relation to overwatch all I hear about it is how static the game is in masters or higher

>>388550907
>the only deciding factor should be mechanical skill
Yes, in a competitive multiplayer shooter, the only deciding factor should be player skill. If the other player is more skilled, he should win.
How can anyone disagree with this?

>>388552862
What are you talking about? It's quake. It's not lawbreakers or an overwatch clone or anything else. Why would it fail for the same reasons? Explain.

>>388552549
Okay, so no FPS requires skill
what genre requires skill, then?

>>388550175
Posible =/= viable

>>388549363
Fragged has always been the gayest fucking term in vidya

>>388551972
>the quality of a game is directly dependent on how many people play it

Come on, anon.

>>388552941
Memory is a skill, yes, but again, it's the bare minimum. There's so much more, combos, cooldowns, coutnerpicks, attack ranges, it's more than just memorizing a few wiki pages, it's a matter of dynamic problem solving.

There is no problem solving in Quake. I have a lot of hours in ut2k4, quake, and Champions. The games are fun and I love playing them, but in terms of an indicator of skill, they pale in comparison to newer FPS.

>>388553125
Exergames

>>388553071
unpopular genre of shooter in an already over saturated market

dirty bomb has double the players on steam right now and thats a f2p that came out 2 years ago

>>388551826
>arena fps
>you're in motion
>enemy is in motion
>still have to aim and hit

please explain how it takes less skill to aim when both you and your taget are moving compared to when you are standing still.

>>388549684
You are clever and understand videogames in a deeper way than the idiots baited by you

>>388552294
You dont udnerstand what meta means Anon.

>>388549363
Even PUBG has better netcode than QC. Really makes me think.

>>388553617
Thanks. I'm a little disappointed in this board, though. It seems I dwarf pretty much everyone, intellectually.

>>388549684
Quake relies very much on tactics and timings but yea not the case in QC. They butchered duel and rest of the modes are hehe so chaotic and fun haha.

>>388553421
>counterpick and cooldowns
>dynamic problem solving

We live in an age were retards think a watered down team fortress 2 is the pinnacle of skill

>>388553421
Yeah picking Reinhardt or Winston takes a lot of skill desu. Fuck actually aiming.

Why not just play UT?

It looks exactly the same and is free.

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In all seriousness, I never really played arena shooters besides Unreal 2k4 back in the day.

I want to buy this game just to support it and I'd like to see more arena shooters come out in the future

with that being said, is it even worth trying to get into quake at this point? Like the skill ceiling is so high and people that have been playing for a while are so far ahead.

Is there even a point in starting?

>>388549363

>skill
>left click when they show up in your crosshair.

This shit never made sense, even back in counter strike, this is not skill.

>>388553421
the problem solving in quake is the end of your gun, maybe if you were any good at shooters you would need to play overwatch

>>388554094
>new game comes out
>tons of fresh meat
Now is the best time to get into the game.

>>388554108
>basketball
>skill
>shoot ball into the hoop
This shit never made sense, even back in rock hole, this is not skill.

>>388554094
If you're willing to get completely destroyed for awhile while you learn to play its definitely worth it, but if you're not capable of handling that you probably wont enjoy yourself.

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>people defending OW as if it was the gold standard for a skillful game

This thread and the daily "fighting games are too hard" threads always give me a good laigh

>>388553397
I didn't say that.
All I said is that it's going to be fotm with 1000 peak.

>>388554108
It's just what people who invest thousands of hours of something convince themselves of.
Deluding themselves into believing they've achieved something others cannot obtain.
It's made even worse when third worlders compliment them by calling them hackers for doing the most basic shit.

>>388553421
>>There is no problem solving in Quake.
t. CA babby

>>388553421
>it's more than just memorizing a few wiki pages
it's literally not.

>>388550907
way to btfo yourself, faggot

>>388554059
I do play


by myself

because quake 3 still exists

>>388552898
he's right though

>>388550907
y-yeah...

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>Grab the Lightning Gun
>Go apeshit on frags and killsteals
>"Man the Lightning Gun either is OP or braindead easy"
>Everyone is triggered in match
>"IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS FOR 20 YEARS IT'S OK YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S OP YOU'RE LEVEL 2"
>"I'm just sayin', i'm on 2nd place and i'm level 2 against 20's"
>End up the match in 3rd place anyways

QC is kinda cool but lol at this shit

>>388554094
Of course, like anything you can git gud if you put the time in. The skill ceiling isn't even that high, people have just put in the time to learn how to aim well while taking advantage of movement mechanics and map knowledge.

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>>388550907

>>388554059
UTAlpha is fucking awesome and easily better
I still like QC but it's because it's hot right now

>>388554530
Actually, I didn't. Everyone who responded to me is a mouthbreather. Other games sacrificed a tiny bit of mechanical skill in order to create more cerebral gameplay, yet you guys can't see that. You're infatuated with an FPS catered to the lowest common denominator.

>>388554094
Yes. Seriously. It's fun. Now is the best time. There are plenty of other not-so-good people for you to git gud with. Then when f2p rolls around you won't be complete shit.

The only arena I had really played before was also ut2k4 back in the day and even in my first few matches of QC, I was ~1:1

A LOT of people are having a great time with the game. Not sure why 4chan is endlessly shitting on it and hoping for it to fail

>>388552728
>It's not a thinking game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58

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>>388550907
right before our eyes, an assfaggots/hero-shooter babby achieves an enlightenment

>>388550217
oh shit
that's cute

>>388549684
>MFW you fags complain about reloading but have no ammo to manage.

Fuck off Overwatch fags.

>>388555228
>an enlightenment

>>388554283
What gives me a good laugh are the posters who build their entire identity around playing "skillful" games, and pushes it on others, instead of just enjoying a game and letting the competitive aspect be the challenge.

>>388555074
>Not sure why 4chan is endlessly shitting on it and hoping for it to fail
/v/ is full of Overwatch and PUBG fags.

>>388553529
the steam player count for QC doesn't include f2p players, it has more players than DB and it isn't even out yet

>>388549363
>>388549403
>wait for noobs to walk into crosshair
>press m1
lulz tribes takes more skill

>>388553727
QC netcode isn't even bad, learn to aim. There's rubber banding and occasional stuttering but the actual hit reg is good.

>>388549363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7NR3WndytA

>>388551714
quad damage

Is there any community more insecure and preachy than the "hard games only" crowd?

>>388551189
That's on them for not bombing the quad spawn after it happened the first time.

>>388555632
reddit

>>388554059
UT is fucking shit compared to Quake, always has been and always will be.

>>388555632
you

>>388554961
It's not really the lighting gun. It's the fact that Anarki and Sorlag have big advantages in the game.
At least most of the players are cool in QC. Not like salty ASSFAGGOTS players.

>>388550998
>>388551001
>>388551158
>>388551342
>>388551373
>>388552674
>>388553039
>>388554530
>>388554896
>>388554969
>>388555228
>I don't want any variery or strategic possibilities because thinking is hardz!
I hope you are all just memeing.

>>388549363
played Q3 for years, I'm not playing Quake:Heroes shit.

I'd rather play the new Unreal Tournament.

>>388555817
this
but not that overwatch has any of that tho

>>388549363
at this point I play overwatch solely because it makes faggots like you mad.

>>388549363
Way too late for me to get into it. Plus I'm terribad at aiming. Would just be me trying my hardest not to die or giving the enemy free kills.

>>388549363
>requires skill
>bodyshots is all you show in your video

These games are both shit, get battleborn.

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>>388555670
>Falseflagging
>Shitposting
>Lying on the internet

>>388555817
I'm not playing games to do math homework you fuckin queer

but in all seriousness if you think quake takes no thought you're just fucking stupid, which explains why you like overwatch and ASSFAGGOTS

why not just play cs go? much more game than then this

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>>388549363
I play Paladins because for me it makes the most fun, played OW for about 200 hours and it bores me now to death, 1200 hours into CS:GO and probably 4k+ hours in CS 1.6.

>>388549684
you're either a Rainbow Six Siege player or a massive faggot who somehow thinks overwatch takes 'tactics'

>>388549363
I'm getting old and i can feel getting shittier and shittier each day at my reflexes

>>388555987
Likewise, people are not playing online games solely to display mechanical skill. They're playing them to entertain themselves.

Grow up, and base your identity on something that isn't the image of the games you play.

>>388556132
i'm not the one playing a kids game

>>388550907
>>388555817
>everyone should just do the exact same thing and the only deciding factor should be mechanical skill
I agree with this in the sense that having no variety of playstyles/characters is boring, and I think a little strategy and thinking should go in a competitive game to go together with mechanical skill

>>388552728
Quake 3 was never about mechanical skill, hitboxes were gigantic rectangles covering even the fattest models. Even a retard can hit a few rails in a row.
Timing, positioning and pickup control are what you need to git gud at.
Tribes is like 90% predictions anyway. Nobody consistenly lands a shot in that game

>>388556003
Son, I seriously hope you SURGE WITH POWER

>>388556271
See:
>Grow up, and base your identity on something that isn't the image of the games you play.

>>388549363
dead game

>>388549363
Is it free? QC or not?

>>388556426
I'm not the one playing a kids game.

>>388554108
>ball rolls towards you
>kick
lmao

the game you posted is much closer to overwatch than quake

>>388556513
As of now, It's free if you played the beta in the past. It will be free to play in the future.

>>388555161
Class -based shooter fags utterly BTFO

>>388555987
>strategic gameplay is math homework
How underage is this board?

>>388556132
>Likewise, people are not playing online games solely to display mechanical skill. They're playing them to entertain themselves.
The fact that you see these two as mutually exclusive, as if mechanical skill being the deciding factor in competitive games is just for show and not entertaining in itself, proves how fucked your cancerous ideology is,

>>388549363
berthesda launcher bloatware on my pc

>>388555582
clawz has earned more than rapha now lmao

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>>388555817
>using your ulti takes skill

it really makes me think

>>388556721
this is the real answer

>>388556702
Underage enough to complain about mechanical skill being the only deciding factor in winning competitive games.

>>388549363
no monies left. Selling crates to buy quake desu ;_;

>>388556840
Just wait until it's free.

>>388556743
I'm not into OW, but it does take some tactical skill to maximize the utility of the ultimate abilities.

>>388554284
there's 1800 players now on steam, and that's without counting the players on bethesda launcher.

Also right now if you want to play the game unless you got a free beta key (which won't show up as a player on steam) you have to pay 30€, when the game comes out it will be free to play so there will be a lot more players.

>>388556710
Your reading comprehension is awful.

>solely to display mechanical skill
>solely
If one finds enjoyment in the game, and isn't just playing it to feed a shallow superiority complex due to the skill required, that obviously doesn't apply.

>>388556606
Well, i didnt play beta, and there is no release date on steam page. Hm...

>>388556702
>counterpicks, meta familiarity, and general knowledge are skills
You tell me. Knowledge is a crutch for lower IQs.

It's like thinking brainlet majors like Biochemistry and Neuroscience are anywhere near the level of difficulty of Mathematics.

>>388556819
I guess it's a good thing quake takes all kinds of skill and not just mechanical huh?

>>388557063
I was more referring to the fact that you chose a homework analogy.
Are you an actual teenager?

>>388556941
or you can just time the quad damage/redeemer spawn instead of pretending you're being clever for using your welfare stun/instagib/escape option

why are Quake fans so elitist

>>388550694
xonotic is fucking dead stop lying

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>>388549363
>doesn't play an FPS that requires actual skill
But I do, anon, I play Lawbreakers

Quake Champions more like Quake Shit Hitreg amirite

>>388557202
I'm 19, so yes. I am a teenager.

>>388557232
They spent thousands of hours becoming good at a dead game.
It has shaped their identity, and now it's useless.

>>388550907
A competitive game should rely on mechanical skill the most, it's the hardest skill to hone. memory, on the other hand, is the easiest skill. an 8 year old could memorize the metas of games like OW and ASSFAGGOTS. When a game does that, changing the meta often, all it does is lower the skill ceiling and allow less good players to abuse the system and potentially win against better players.

Competitive games used to be about the individuals skill, now its all about doing the "right" thing for the current meta and if you don't, you lose. games based on mechanical skill give the individual a chance to shine, and there's no RNG or metas to give one player an unfair advantage over the other.

>>388549684
a huge part of old shooters was knowing the layout of the map, player/item spawns, and trying to position yourself somewhere you had an advantage and predicting where other players would be.

>>388557451
That's not exclusive to Quake, you absolute mong. Overwatch has that and so much more.

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>>388549403
>get paid to post Quake Champions on 4chan
>post a player repeatedly killing defenseless players as they spawn

>>388557348
>I am a teenager
No surprise there.

>>388557232
They think it's the best form of shooter.
They're right, but I'm still buying the next calladooty

>>388557435
All games have a meta, and Quake is no different.

There's a reason everyone uses only 3 weapons

>>388556721
>>388556780
Now that it's on steam, you don't need the launcher, just an account

>>388556721
get it on steam

>>388557435
You don't actually know what metagaming means, do you?

>>388557846
Not an argument. You bore me.

Try again.

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>>388557538
>mastering a straight line full of chokes

I tried playing QC. It's kinda fun but the skill gap between me and everyone else is huge. This genre is legit harder to just become average in than fighting games. I just cant dedicate years learning how to play.

>>388557435
A competitive game should rely on whatever element they wish the players to be competitive at. You're literally that stereotype of an old quakefag hyping "raw mechanical skill" >>388552728 is making fun of.

>>388557938
Not him, but you clearly don't. By definition of what a meta is, literally every game has a meta. Even rock paper scissors and tic-tac-toe. You're clearly not very smart and use words you don't know the proper meanings of.

>>388549363
I really don't get the appeal of PUBG. Does everybody just play with friends? That's the only way I can see it being entertaining. What's the fun in spending 15 minutes scavenging gear and getting shot by somebody you can't see only to do it all over again next game?

>>388557938
see: >>388557702

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>>388549363
>early access

>>388558121
I'm at the bottom of the scoreboards all the time. The best I get is maybe 4th place.

Stop comparing yourself to others and just focus on improving your movement, timing, and aim. You'll get better, it doesn't require years of training to be decent at Quake.

Also lower the sensitivity on your mouse.

>>388558152
Never played it, but I assume it's just a fun competitive sandbox shooter to play with friends

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>>388549363
pubg is more fun. free crates, free bidya.

If I could play quake in it I would, but it's champions mode only so fuck that
We'll just keep playing the old quakes with no support as usual so whatever

>>388550907
Yes.

>>388558152
It's painful but the streamer cancer has got it to become a hit and normies won't play other games. I would play quake again if it had a decent player count.

>>388549363
>tfw I just play Quake arena Doomguy
>tfw I only use the double barrel shotgun
>tfw refuse to play Sorlag and use the lightning gun like the rest of the players

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>>388550397
Skill was never valued. That's revisionist history conceived in the minds of edgy newfriends. People didn't flock to arena shooters back in the day because they wanted skill, it was because that's what the industry was promoting as the new hotness at the time.

>>388558524
>I would play quake again if it had a decent player count.
Now is literally the time for everyone to show interest

>>388558658
this isn't wrong but it's also not right, skill was always valued it just wasn't poisonous to the game like it is now

>Playing Overwatch Champions

>>388552728
I don't even know anymore, are you retards baiting me, or not?
Here's a fucking reminder, Overwatch is the most mechanically bland game out there, it was made so literal fucking babies could play this this.
All the skills you are describing here are total jokes.
Managing to reload? What kind of joke is that? You have unlimited fucking ammo.
Team comp? Just follow the meta like everyone else.
ULT management? Just use them to clear out choke-points.
This isn't even from Quake-drone or some shit, Overwatch is an incredibly bland game game which requires very little skill. Right now one of the most effective heroes in the meta is Winston.
Who also happens to be a mobile tank who doesn't need to aim to kill his enemies, he is easily the most brainless character in any FPS ever put out.
>B-BUT MY POSITIONING
Fuck off, every multiplayer game requires positioning. Winston's leap doesn't require any skill and has no hidden mechanics to master. And this applies to all heroes, they are incredibly dull and have zero complexities and all of them can be FULLY learned in a matter of an hour or even less.
"Tactics" in Overwatch are not complex, just pick the right heroes, make sure to have a healer and a tank, good DPS characters, make sure to press the Q at the right time so people die. And that's it.
If you actually think that Overwatch requires more skill than Quake, then I don't know what to tell you, you are talking about Overwatch

Overwatch; a game in which you have unlimited ammo, no single hero has any hidden complexities at all, even "high ceiling heroes" like Genji are a fucking joke compared to virtually every single class in TF2, and he isn't that fucking hard to play either, just be good at mobility and climbing and make sure to abuse the fuck out of your shift, you've just "mastered" the "hardest" hero in the fucking game.

>>388549363
>what's your excuse, /v/?
Well, marketer. HOW THE FUCK DO I GET TO PLAY QUAKE CHAMPIONS THEN? Why do you advertise here if it's not even out and getting invitation is impossible. Fuck off.

God i feel really old reading all this baits and millenials forcing muh overwatch is so proskill etc while crying about op webm when some top players go fast and get frags just like his old precedensors from Q1-Q3

Im not mad. For years new games are created for casuals so you think that overwatch or csgo is pinnacle of skill, tactic or whatever cool word. And so many underages here claim that new quake is easy and noskill nobrain game without posting a single webm proving it

even at fucking banter and baitposting most of you are casual tier. Google up some old ut vs quake flame thread and learn from history while playing you casual fps with lolautoaim ults

>>388559095
It's in early access on steam

>>388559101
>And so many underages here claim that new quake is easy and noskill nobrain game without posting a single webm proving it
There are a few honest ones that come back saying they got fucking raped and ask how to get better. Those are the people that will be good players

>>388558392
I play in groups of 3-4 friends and we generally have a good time. There's a proximity chat we use to fuck with people and its just a fun casual game to play.

i like ro2 and rs2. Not a fan of playing shooters that don't involve clear goals and devolve into deathmatches

>>388559101
Why are Quake players so obsessed with skillful vs. casual play?

Are you so young that you're basing your identity on the video games you play, instead of just enjoying them?

>>388559654
they could have been top of their class shooters it's a shame they're so fucking buggy

>>388559095
If you were in the beta you can play it for free

>>388557713
>>388557723

30 euros for an arena shooter that will go f2p anyway? kek

How about I reinstall dirty bomb and play an actual twitch shooter that has an active community and less braindead gameplay?

>>388549363
Why hasn't anyone posted an Overwatch webm with skill like this?

>>388559821
At least we have fewer casuals so the community is pretty good I guess

>>388560009
there isn't one.

>>388559989
Why did you even ask? You clearly don't want to play.

>>388560034
but it's really fuck off shitty that i can lose a firefight because i briefly teleported into the air thanks to the bugs my guy

But I DO play champions

>>388560112
> being this much of a shill

hey I wanted to try it, but since its an arena shooter I sure as hell wont pay 30 euros for it. I can buy the vastly superior ut2k4 for under 5 euros at gog (I got it for 2,80 I believe), and its multiplayer only wtihout a campaign.

Also I have zero faith in berthesda to create a decent fps becasue D44m was abomination incarnate and casualized garbage.
I'll wait till the reviews are in and its free to play.

>>388551794
This but I've been playing UT99 for 18 years. Having a blast.

>>388549363
they seem slow and retarded are they bots?

>>388560319
Okay.

>>388558820
>Now is literally the time for everyone to show interest
No because QC is not good and it's not even quake.
If you show interest now, they will think you just want more overwatch.

>>388558529
are you me?

>>388552027
>Meta always ends up making every match the fucking same because everyone uses the most overpowered
Quake: Camp the red armor, do a loop to get some rockets, rails and health, get a kill and then run the routine of expected spawn points against the guy who has no weapons or armor.

>>388560591
Yeah if you show interest in the game it'll make them think you want to play Overwatch instead.

>>388555817
99% of the people that play meta dont think
they let the 1% think for them google it or something and copy it
if you want a thinking game play a strategy game not a fps

>>388560591
If all you want is to play old Quake, then go play old Quake, numbnuts.

>>388551420
Quad damage isn't a random spawn

>>388560768
I am the 1% though.

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Somewhat happy about the new Quake bringing Bunny Hopping back into relevancy, but I hate the design philosophy behind "hero shooters".

>>388549363
What the fuck is that HUD?
>Score in the centre of teh screen off to the side.
>Scoreboard in the top of the screen.
>Getting a kill causes a pop up in the centre of the screen
>Sometimes a little graphic pops up too.

>>388561675
no youre the ones that try to think but end up copying the pros anyway
youre stuck in gold somewhere think you deserve better and all you think about is stats and whatnot while not realizing the one thing holding you back
you suck at playing the game
i know 10s of people like you

>>388549363
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DEAD GENRE

the new quake or the new unreal tournament and why?

>>388561945
Funny, I can get into a game fairly quickly. Eat shit.

>>388549363
game is shit, fuck off neoquake-fag

>>388550009
that happens pretty often, it sucks so much dick respawing right into a frag but you also can end up in that situation yourself so it evens out a little bit

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>>388557276
>he doesn't host private servers or go to LAN parties
Maybe Xonotic is dead for you anon, but not for me

>>388562490
oh boy how exciting

>you can shill your game on /v/ as long as you pretend it's For Hardcore Players Only!™
hmmmmmmm

>>388562652
t. illiterate

Because youd have to be retarded to pay for something thats going to be free in a few months

>>388562632
>>388562736
>t. assblasted nu-quaketard

>>388550907
why am I still here

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HONK HONK

>>388549684
touhoufags are human garbage

>>388563210
This man speaks the truth.
I would also throw in Im@s, KanColle and Neptunia fans.

>>388552549
advanced shitposting

>>388559793
Considering most people on modern multiplayer fps only plays shitty "competitive/ranked matchmaking" modes now, everyone hates playing for fun.

>of all places, 4chan who glorified the naming of, skill-less peasants, casuals is now infested with casuals
my how the times have changed. good thing I only visit /v/ once a month.

>>388564017
blame reddit

>>388549363
That's my excuse, because my days of Git gud at videogames and training my skills just to play shit are gone.

That's why I like Overwatch, is easy to get into and I don't feel like totally trash.

Also, QC is fucking dead on arrival, Arena Shooters are beyond salvation so I'm not wasting my time in ded gaems

>>388563645
He's right, you're just clicking on heads.

>>388549363
how do i get good at quake?

Dead game

>>388550907
The problem with meta is that everybody does do the exact same thing. How many people have been reported in LoL and Overwatch because they didn't pick one of the 6 pre-approved acceptable characters to play as?

Also yes, mechanical skill matters the most.

>>388564348
the 5 times I have played overwatch this month I pick a character everyone says not to play. Then I proceed to own shit with it, and someone on the opposite team changes to that character and starts copying my strats. It's all the same meme.

>>388549363
Is it worth to buy it just to play ffa deathmatch? I'm tired of Overwatch and team games in general and just want to frag people.

>>388561997
Try the new UT, its legit good and has new movement techs and weapons

Is Quake Champions actually good? I want actual good shooters but the hero shooter elements are offputting.

>>388549684
genuinely triggered by this

good job anon 9/10

>>388564036
>>388563065
>>388562927
>>388562627
thats even more boring than overwatch, and you seem really bad at the game, at least post webms like other pubg anon that kills 4 man teams on his own every match

>>388564976
The hero abilities don't ruin the game. They have side abilities as well. They're making a classic version mode with no hero abilities soon.

>>388564976
The hero shooting aspect is minimal actually
Its good enough
Still the ut4 is kinda better but its all about flavor

>>388565220
UT4 would be the better game if it was actually alive

>>388565380
Why you come here, telling lies?

>>388564017
>WHY ISN'T /v/ PRAISING THIS GAME WTF I CALLED IT HARDCORE FOR ONLY THE HARDCOREST OF PLAYERS!

>>388565745
Because Quake Champs ain't shit, Bethesda

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>needing to play the game for a lot of time and practice stupid "tehcniques" in order to actually start enjoying a game that doesn't even looks that fun
No, thanks, I'm sticking to casual fun.

>but muh skill
I play games to relax, why would I want to put myself under pressure on a game?

>>388564976
the abilities are really minimal, i can't remember a case where i've lost a fight only due to an ability in any way
at worst it'll just be nyxes who go invis to run away, but if you can predict where they're running to you can just catch them up again in like three seconds and finish them off anyway

>>388549363
I'm 30 years old and I wasn't any good at FPS even at 18.

I've been playing Dirty Bomb lately, it's fun but the lack of map variety is annoying.

>>388565380
Unironically this.

>>388552839
Quake 3 is nuquake

Friendly reminder that anyone who compares Quake Champions to Overwatch has never played any Quake game.

>>388564976
Yep. You will have fun.

Like the others have said, the abilities are pretty minimal. They're just enough to keep things interesting, but not enough to really change the game. I think they've done a decent job, actually.

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>>388566074
>I play games to relax
You don't relax playing games, you imbecile. Even the most passive cinematic experience you find still takes its toll.

>>388558820
This, anyone who claims to like Quake but isn't playing the new Quake is a poseur.

>>388555790

Sorlag at least has the downside of a larger hitbox. Anarki is just complete bullshit because his natural stance is side-on so his hitbox is naturally smaller than normal due to his normal stance.

>>388566074
>having fun

doyouknowwhereyouare.jpg

>>388564976

Abilities in QC are more like useful small boons when used rather than OP powerful abilities.

Will I have fun playing this game if I'm not really good at shooters?

I'm kinda good at Overwatch, but I don't have much experience with other multiplayer shooters, so I'll be no match to these people that have played Quake for years even if I played for months, and that doesn't sound really fun.

>>388549363
Nobody wants this kind of game any more, if you do then you're in a minority. No one wants to put time and effort into mastering a game, they want instant gratification. You think a casual player would ever pick up a game like Quake? Arena shooters are a niche genre, they only attract the hardcore players from back in the day and that's not enough to keep a game alive.

Quake Champions will fail just like the other arena shooters that have come out in the past few years, their time is over.

>>388567038

Quake Champions has branding and F2P behind it.

It should do well as long as it isn't horrendously balanced. Not like that ever stopped OW from getting popular.

>>388550175
>where you can win without killing a single player.
It's not a win unless you have 10+ kills.

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>>388567474
really describes pubg

>>388566874
>I'll be no match to these people that have played Quake for years even if I played for months
You literally do not know that and anyways, there are tons of other new people playing right now

PUBG requires too much luck to get results in it.

There's definitely an element of skill, but getting the drop on someone is more important than anything and there's so many variables you'll often die in fucking cover because you failed one of 50 spot checks.

>>388549363
i like fun

>>388567038
It's not even about not wanting to master them. Quake and similar shooters are less immersive than what we have now. They're not as tense. It's pure point and click skill with nothing else to pull you in, it's ugly as hell to boot. All 90's shooters are repugnant to look at now.

>>388567474
WTF WHEN WILL WE GET MICS BACK IN WARMUP? REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>388566074
You're free to eat shit and enjoy it, just don't go around trying to show off how "skillful" it is to football players

>>388566074
Quake is actually so much more fun than any of the games you like.

>>388564976
It's good, but the skill gap can be huge

Because I don't know where to start and am not willing to buy a game out of a minor interest in trying it.

>>388568586
Come play UT4. It's fucking FREE.

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>>388566074
>hey do you wanna try out this crazy fast GT car
>n-no thanks I'd have to learn how to drive really well and all those racing techniques sounds autistic I'll just stick to what I LIKE
>poots away in his honda shitbox

does it runs on toasters?

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>>388552776
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>>388549363
Why does this game have worse netcode than fucking PUBG? It's embarrassing for a quake game.

>>388569526
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=quake+champions+minimum+specs

>>388549363
PUBG is fun with and without friends
Without friends you get cases for playing and sell them for IRL money
With friends it's a great experience

>>388554059
2017? It's a mess, whoever is overlooking its development has to be a CoD fag of some shit, doesn't help it much now that Epic is focusing on TumblrNite.

>>388569526
it runs pretty well for how it looks

>>388567038
>You think a casual player would ever pick up a game like Quake?
Yes. Because that's exactly what they did before the Activisions of the world dropped promotions of such games for microtransaction-filled console titles and the leftover player base turned them into their own e-peen clubhouse. See >>388558658

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>>388549684

>>388550019
I miss vehicles too. The new Unreal is probably not going to have them.

>>388549684
nice bait. see you caught a lot of fresh, juicy (you)s. Here's one for free, consider it a tip.

>>388556979
>unless you got a free beta key (which won't show up as a player on steam) you have to pay 30€
But hey, at least they put it on Steam now, so it's got one thing going for it.

>>388551014
yeah actually quite a few for such an old game.

>>388555573
>it's not shitty code, it's skill based!

>>388550019
CTF is the only good team based game mode ever. It's so good it's a fucking travesty that it hasn't been refined and promoted in games like tf2 or quake champions

>>388551152
B-but muh git gud...