Holy fuck. Bethesda just won't fucking stop trying

Let them flounder in the dark. It will never catch on.

>>388537870

that's what people said abour horse armor

>>388537870
Even if it does. I'm sure someone will buy them just to upload to Nexus only to spite Bethesda.

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>>388537759
>prototype gauss rifle
>canonically it's a manufactured military version compared to fo4's homemade gauss rifle

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This is what you stealfags get for pirating my games and not getting skyrim on switch. Buy skyrim on switch or more paid mods will come.

>>388537982
They said horse armor wouldn't catch on? What the fuck's that supposed to mean.

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So are like credits basically shark cards for Creation Club?

I think Creation Club is a great idea, it means we'll keep getting DLC that will all have to be to spec, work together and because of financial incentives and alpha, beta stages we'll get it faster and better quality than if it were left up to modders.

What's not to like?

What do bethesdabux equate to in people money?

How many USD is 50 bethesdabux? Any number you tell me will be insulting because how dare Bethesda ask me to pay money for a fucking texture swap, but I want to know exactly how insulted to be.

>>388538001
>uploading protected IP to legit sites

how do you not get scammed every day?

>>388538027
When and I'm pretty sure it didn't either so your point is moot.

>>388538285
It started paid DLC

>>388538147
Bethesda intern please leave.

I can't imagine ever buying another elderscrolls or fallout game after how amazingly shit the last two were.

>>388537759
>Hellfire armor
>TFW I'm a PS4 cuck when it comes to FO4 because my PC is a PClet

Damn it, I'm tempted but now.

>>388538193
>ill be insulting because how dare

1USD equals to 50 Bethesda's Creation Club Credits (3C). You can use 3C to buy any and all mods for sale on Creation Club website. While it's not a store, there will be frequent sales on both popular and more obscure mods.

>>388538027
People said something as silly as Horse Armor in Oblivion would never catch on, yes. Now, Overwatch runs on it.

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>>388538375
>DLC is the same thing as mods

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From the looks of it, most of these mods are for Xbone and PS4.
As always, it's the consoles who're fucking things up for us.

It's for console users

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>>388538457
>paying 10 dollars for power armor
whew lad

>>388538147

I don't want to be told to pay for something that has been free for the entirety of my life prior to this point. Especially by Bethesda " The Modders Will Patch Our Game For Us " Softworks.

>>388538457
So the gun in OP is 8 bucks? The fuck?

>>388538375
No it did not you troglodyte.

>>388538582
There will be tons of 50 3C mods out there I'm sure. Plus all the sales and discounts.

>>388538147
The problem is its not "DLC WORTH OF CONTENT" its the extra shit you need on Nexus to make the game enjoyable.

Cant haul around your Dildo Collection 3.3 everywhere unless you got the Backpacks for All mod.

>>388537870
>It will never catch on
It's already too late. Who do you think buys these things? Kids do. Rather than buying new complete games they would rather spend it on DLC.

>>388538494
>>388538670
You must be 18+ to post here to understand what he's talking about, the principle is fucking same dumb degenerates

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Press S to spit on its grave.

>>388538457
Jesus christ, I hope people don't fall for this shit. Power armor for ten fucking bucks, that's absurd.

>>388538457
>I'm okay with paying actual, literal money for a single low-res texture
You shouldn't be in charge of your own finances.

You're about to tell me what a financial wizkid you are an that you can afford to spend money on this bullshit. I promise, by thinking a dollar for a texture is a good deal, you are fucking abysmal with your money and you're going to end up homeless.

so how are they going to skirt around the 255 plugin limit? it comes around pretty fast with small mods like these.

>750 bethpoints cost 9€
>that gives you one power armor and a weapon skin

lol I aint bying that shit. someone will host a site with ripped mods. Just like Reddit has a modpiracy site.

>>388538757
Horse Armor did not start DLC. You might have a point if you're talking about COSMETIC DLC, but not DLC as a concept.

>Trainwiz defended this schlock

Lmao, waht a cuck

>>388539019
Of course he did, he's been trying, and obviously failing to get an actual job at bethesda, at least now he can pretend to have one kek.

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>>388538757
>prince nipple
never heard of her

I bought the base game for $15 and someone is trying to sell a single weapon for $8?
That's hilarious.

>>388537759
Who cares? Those mods will eventually be retrieved from the game files and made available for everyone. Jews BTFO.

I just want all mods from Creation club to appear on obscure slav sites for free lol.
>tfw Bethesda will continue to work on those mods that I will be getting for free.

>>388539004
Then what started the concept of DLC? Expansions pack were always supposed to be "game" 1.5, when Horse armor came out every was laughing saying "haha this will never become the new standard, this will never replace expansion packs!"

Years later, look in Steam store how many games have small cosmetic DLCs, Saint's Row or Tomb Raider for example. There's huge possibility if we let this shit happen (I mean if people will spend MONEY on it) it will catch on and other devs will start doing this shit.

>>388539019
He defended it because he's probably in partnership with Bethesda and he'll make money out of it, I don't even know my people on /fog/ give tripfags attention

>>388539019
People should call him traincuck now

>>388539352
haha yeah I love memes

>>388539352
haha

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>>388538675
>it's okay because it's 10% off

>>388538853
There will be mod bundles and discounts. These are Featured mods category that can be reclaimed individually, but buying a combination of several curated mods will lower each individual mod's price.

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>>388539619
Wow, that is, slightly less shit, but still on the far side of being complete and utter shit.

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At first they were too incompetent to make a working game so they let the fans make it with mods. Now they're trying to profit off of their incompetency. Jesus fucking christ.

>>388539619
you are trying too hard. I can already get everything I want free from nexus and loverslab mods I would not even be able to get from CC.

>>388539619
>>388538675
>>388538457
This is some kind of goof on me, right? This is like an internet version of candid camera. There isn't seriously someone on /v/ who is in support of this shit, right?

I wish I could stop coming here. I hate it here. I hate the people that are here.

>>388538675
>want to install over 100 mods as I usually do
>even at the best possible discounts it's gonna cost me well over 100 dollars regardless
kys

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>>388537759
Realistically, how would this affect the free-mod scene for TES6?

Editing/working on game files isn't something that this prevents in any means, as far as I can tell. Surely we'll lose some potentially good mods to this system, but I can't imagine every single person on nexus(or loverslab) going over to it.

It'll probably fly better on consoles, but I really just don't see it happening on PC. They'd have to some drm-esqe shit hard coded in the game or something that could only allow shit from the creation crap, which seems implausible.

>>388540014
I would wager they won't even bother releasing mod tools for the next TES because they'll be scared it'll cut into their paid mod profits.

>>388538108
You must be 10 if you're asking that. Is that your only exposure to something like this? I mean you should get it just from looking at it.

>>388537759
Cant wait to pirate them.
>F4 only
Shit no one wants to play that. Did Bethesda invent the perfect anti piracy?

>>388540105
That's probably some amount of a safe bet, but I can guarantee that the community would create their own.

>>388540014
>>388540105
This, consoles are their biggest market and most people on PC are retards who play vanilla or at most install something from the Steam's workshop.
If this is profitable you can expect paid mods on Steam again.

>>388540183
No it's also coming to Nuskyrim but the same thing applies no one, aside from on the consoles, wants to play that.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26251/?

I can already get the hellfire for FREE with optional 4k textures. Why would I buy lowres version?

>>388539907
Viral marketing and paid shills aren't real anon :^)

>>388539901
Just wait until modders begin removing their mods from Nexus to resell them through Bethesda store. Remember what happened the last time the companies tried to push paid mods

How much are the credits going to cost?

>>388537759
I thought it was gaben's fault? you told me the midget dindu nuffink

>>388540289
Oh yeah that new edition of skyrim came out. of course no one will play it if its performing worse for little to no improvements mods can do better.

>>388540313
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26251That shit is THICC

But yeah pretty much all these things have been done or will be done better by people on the nexus.

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>>388538457
>>388537759
>those prices

>>388538675
Some people really like to take it up the ass don't they?

>>388538513

Its always like, after all they were the ones that popularized dlc.

>>388538457

$8 for a backpack???

Another $8 for a Gauss Rifle???

It's only $25 for Far Harbour XD

How does this make any sense

>>388540014
Modding is already dying down. The guys behind script extender have real life shit so they cant work on it. Bethesda also has made the modding tools more tedious to work with, not releasing documentation of any kind. Like custom animations for weapons in Fallout 4 was stumbled upon accidentally, no one knew that you could do it.

Bottomline is that without script extender the modding skene will be dead because its just so limited what you can do with what bethesda intends you to work with.

>>388540356
Bethesda already said that you cant release shit already on nexus through their shop.

>>388540727
>implying they'll enforce that

>>388537759
>backpacks

Fucking Jews, this should be standard equipment IN THE FUCKING GAME. I'm salty as fuck that I have to go and install a backpack mod when they know damned well there's a huge demand for backpacks as far back as in Skyrim.

>>388540637
You don't believe something as significant as tes6 would revitalize it by any degree?

If nothing else, the Bethesda fallout/tes are considered the primary games to mod, especially skyrim. I don't know if the same guys would make skse for tes6, but certainly someone will.

>>388537759
Stop buying games and pirate everything. Then you don't have to care about them pushing shit.

>>388540802
>nexusmods shut down over copyright claim

NexusBay.org

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>>388537870
>>388538792
>>388540525
>>388540591


you think you can escape this? that this won't "catch on"? you poor, stupid, if optimistic, motherfuckers. Bethesda has committed to this initiative in earnest now, a couple of months ago the testing of waters giving only lukewarm protest. You should have gone nuclear, but there was only a peter of a boycott talked about and then it vanished. But no, really, this is the future now, and i'm sure there are top fucking minds over at bethesda figuring out a way to make mods as difficult to implement without CC access as possible, while also making custom mod drm.

The jewing has barely even begun, soon if not already, they'll start eyeing up nexus as a "potential partner". mod tools you need to subscribe to use will be the only way to upload a mod anywhere, and only if you have a valid tools license AND creation club premium creator's membership or some shit. This isn't some doomsday prophecy, this is shit we already see coming down the pipes, so open wide motherfuckers, todd's already got his pants off

>>388540887
there arent many guys around who can disassemble the engine code and rebuild it. They also said on Redit that for Oblivion and skyrim script extender they got help from bethesda with E-mails. This dried up when Special Needs version was unveiled.

>>388541218
So? No one is forcing you to play nor buy their shitty games.

>>388538026
please todd I already own 3 copies.

>>388541218
Give me ten good men and I can stop them.

>>388541218

I'm not even protesting Creation Club, I just think the prices are ridiculous.

$8 is too much to charge for ONE weapon or one suit of armour.

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>>388538457
Wow tf are those prices?

Beth can't really believe anyone would buy this shit, right? Even the little kids dumb enough to probably couldn't afford it.

spoilered so todd doesn't read this,
but they'd probably make a ton more money if they just pulled a valve and did lootcrates.

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I know it will seem like i'm shilling paid mods, but please bear with me for now:

At first I was a bit skeptical about the whole Creation Club announcement but when I read through their official website, it seems like this is a way for them to try and improve mods and
actually make them better.

They will have quality control, collaboration between the game devs and the mod authors and a bunch of other procedures and guidelines.

I can't wait for the exciting new mods that will come out from this system. Its gonna bring polish and better integration for mods as a whole.

I am really excited.

>>388537870
Just like DLC, season passes, pre-order DLC, ingame purchases, special editions without the actual game included, jewstarter, etc?

>>388541773
FUCK OFF TODD

>>388540528
Actually I'm pretty sure those mods are free.

>>388538513

PS4 can't use mods with new models iirc.

Unless Sony changed the rules for Bethesda to sell this shit.

>>388538885
They made a new file type specifically for this shit, it doesn't count against the limit but is small as fuck

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>>388541218
This

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>>388537759
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26251/?

>>388541323
others will. and the cancer will spread to every franchise, every publisher, every developer on every platform. think of a game you like? yeah, that one too.its going to get fucked and there isn't shit you can do about it. like playing older games? bethesda will find a way to fuck you there too. even if you stop playing games entirely, you'll be eating bethesda brand microwave dinners and "protein" shakes before you know it. they'll fucking own you and everyone and everything you love. you. can't. stop. it. eat shit while you still can for free.

>>388542060
PS4 mods cant use ANY external assets due to japs being shit with security. CC is a way to kinda circumvent it because everything goes through bethesda so nothing malicious should no happen.

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>>388542208
>yfw consolebabies will cash out for this

>>388541218
If they do this people simply will stop buying their games

>>388540727
Notice the backpack, hellfire armor and recolors for pipboy? All already available on the Nexus so please tell me how they're actually enforcing that?

>>388542294
I only bought skyrim after I saw that it started to get grea mods.

>>388542294
Terribly naive there's legions of sheep just waiting to feast upon the pigslop and happily pay premium for it.

>>388541773
>They will have quality control, collaboration between the game devs
Yeah the same quality control for their own games right? That's why everyone of there games has an unofficial patch. Also will it be the same level of collaboration that happened for the script extenders?

>>388542612
Bethesda needs to sell TONS to justify their long production cycles and massive marketing budgets though. They really cannot afford another game with a reception as negative as FO4.

Even Asscreed slowed down their production after the bad publicity from Unity affected sales of their next one.

>>388538027
>Poster is so new he doesn't even remember Oblivion
I used to call out those children who thought Oblivion was anything other than a dumbed down Morrowind. People only liked it because it was simpler, had less text even if the voice acting was shit, and gave the plebs their """visceral combat.""" Now we have people unironically posting on /v/ that don't remember the fucking horse armor dlc. In 10 years we're gunna have people who don't remember steam's paid mod shitstorm and they're gunna be the same people supporting the creation club

>>388542554
Not that anon but they just found a loophole. Make the same mod but with a different person and with less content.

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i kind of want that backpack mod but no way in fuck im paying for it

how long until people start pirating this shit?

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You pathetic virgin faggots. Pay up. Or don't. In fact i don't even care about you PC-gaming vermin anymore. The console players will beg for these morsels, and will gleefully pay any price i set.

I won't even release Fallout 5 and Elder Scrolls 6 on the PC.

>>388542969
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/3258/?

?

>>388538457
>>388538582
>>388538653
>>388538853
>>388538872
>>388540525
>>388540591
>>388541750
>paying for textual reskins is not okay
>yet paying for cosmetic items in cancerous games like PUBG, CS:GO, and Overwatch are completely fine

>>388542973
>I won't even release Fallout 5 and Elder Scrolls 6 on the PC.

Then who will make it playable with mods?

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>Implying mod piracy isn't already a thing

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>>388543249

>>388543245
MMM DAYUM WHAT VAULT SUIT IS THAT?? SHE THICC AF AMA INSTALLIN MY BODYSLIDERS

>>388543249
Where did I every say that?

I think those lootcrates are just as fucking cancerous.

Pretty sure most people here would agree with me.

Also (you).

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>>388543245
True, I already installed that one, but I feel that this new set looks better.

Certainly not worth like $8 though.

>>388543249
No one has made that claim anywhere in this thread, nice strawman though

honestly the faster we rid gaming of poorfags the better

bye /v/ermin
you won't be missed~

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>>388543249
>yet paying for cosmetic items in cancerous games like PUBG, CS:GO, and Overwatch are completely fine

>>388543304
It has been a thing since sims2 actually.

>>388537759
how long until people start putting modpacks up on kickass or piratebay?

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>>388543252
I.. fine. I'll release, but only if i see at least a hundred million dollars worth of creation coin purchases from PC players!

>>388538469
cosmetics are more desirable in multiplayer games because other people can actually see them and besides at least you can get those skins for free.

I'm not signing up to this.

How many credits does a dollar get?

>>388541218
>You will live long enough to see developers charge you for their game and then charge you again so someone else can fix their game with a paid "unofficial patch"

>>388543763
$1 USD = 50 Creation Club Credits

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>>388538026
what is preventing me from pirating these mods like the dlc lol?

>>388542862
>had less text even if the voice acting was shit,

Oblivion had text where it counted (i.e. the lore books).

>>388544125
Jack shit.
Some bloke will buy popular mods, rip them from his HDD, and upload it for people to download through an ad;link. The number of clicks will pay for the cost of buying the mod and might even fund the next purchase the bloke makes

I fear this is inevitable. They will skip it in somewhere like consoles. Then they will give the option for it or have some "premium" reviewed content that will be allowed to do it. Then they'll just blanket roll it out.

>>388544125
the law
but that hasn't stopped people at all so who cares

literally anyone whining about this is about as retarded as whining that games cost money

>>388544609
To be fair the law isn't exactly stopping him.

Just sorta shaking it's finger at him and saying "Bad anon bad!" while not really doing anything.

>>388538147
>What's not to like?
I don't know, the fact that it costs MONEY?

If you are are not making mods for free, you should not make them at all. They are community content, passion projects.. not something I'm going to spend money on.

Shouldn't the jews at bethesda just hire the popular modders and make sure they keep producing good content for their future titles?

What if..you don't want a mod...you don't pay for it?

Isn't that nuts?

>>388544757
true

>>388544802
>Shouldn't the jews at bethesda just hire the popular modders and make sure they keep producing good content for their future titles?
that's literally what the program is

>>388544812
That's what they said about horse armor. I'm not tolerating it anymore, shill.

>>388543249
>Implying I said that those were okay
>Implying I've paid for shit in any of those games
>Implying I've played any of those games

Lol K.

>>388543304
Is it really piracy if you're just getting free shit that people are trying to keep in their SEKRET clubs or when they REEEE and take it down from Nexus for stupid shit?

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>mods never ever blocked achievements and have always been compatible with DLC
>modify your next game's code to block your achievements when you mod it
>"It's totally not the same guys! It's not mods!"

>>388544943
No, as actual people who are on Bethesda payroll and make content that gets added to the base game of their next title.

This current system that they are suggesting is a big 'fuck you' to the consumer. Sure the Bethesda and modders like it, but what about the people who like running 100-150 mods in Skyrim and don't want to pay 200-500 dollars in the future to do so.

>>388545214
Also imagine how much testing from their QA team must have gone into making the new Pip-Boy paintjob working flawlessly and for it to be compatible with DLC

>>388545214
Or I could just download a mod that unblocks the achievements.

>>388545389
Not enough work to consider paying money. That's for sure.

>>388545214

Kek, the entire thing just exists to screw over consolefags.

>>388537759
They just need to put the mods in loot crates

>>388545214
Haha someone let him know mods already fixed that and most mods require all DLCs to work anyway

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>>388537759
Oh wow, now mods are just another name for DLC. Thank you Todd, you slimy fuck.

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>>388541382
make it 4

>>388544802
This. Modding started when a fan of something said 'this is great, but I think I could add more to it' and then went and did it. Never did the thought 'I could change the game's base content and get paid for it' occur.

The advent of virtual tip jars is what ultimately lead to jews coming along thinking 'why ask for donations when I can just demand money?'

The main problem is that there is practically no new generation of competent modders, mainly due to games being locked down to the point of inmoddability with always online, launchers, lack of dedicated servers, drm, microtransactions, etc, and because they rather go and make their own game from scratch (and usually fail under the scope of it).
So we are left with mostly modeller-texturer only guys, who wont be able to break whatever lock the devs gonna put up on quality mods (like the ever increasing need for script extenders due to weaker and weaker official modding tools and utter lack of documentation), and slowly but surely this will be a norm and an even more incompetent new generation will be bought up to whom free modding will be an alien concept.

Much like the death of flash games thanks to mobile microtransaction shits.

>>388546064
You do know modders don't have to charge money, right?

>>388537759
If you're gonna ask for money, you better make sure is up to par with the previous DLCs.

>>388539349
>He defended it because he's probably in partnership with Bethesda and he'll make money out of it

Yes, Trainwiz is a massive fucking shill.

>>388542836
>They really cannot afford another game with a reception as negative as FO4.
Fallout sold millions of copies. They are perfectly fine if they release a game like FO4.

devil may cry 3 is the greatest game ever to exist.
I will modify it however I wish.
there is nothing you can do to stop me.

>>388546361
Yeah, they can always release a free version filled with adverts for the paid version, right?

>>388546434
Must be why Fo4's DLCs were such shit.

>>388546345

There are plenty of moddable games that aren't Bethesda.

>>388546601
and why they had to steal new vegas mods

>>388546670
Max Payne 1 and 2. Insane mods

>>388546691
New Vegas is literally a Fallout 3 mod

>the creation club will ensure higher quality mods

Whoever actually thinks this needs to look at vanilla Skyrim and Fallout and tell me that Bethesda knows quality control. The games are broken at every turn.

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>>388537982
Horse armour caught on because you idiots kept fucking buying it.

None of this would be a problem if morons like you and the rest stopped "ironically" throwing their money at immoral business practices. But no. We've got sixteen-year-olds on YouTube throwing away a thousand bucks at a time on "loot boxes" to "ironically" open them up and "rage" at the results on a stream. Pathetic.

>>388546361
That's what the tip jars were for. Ask for generous donations while still offering the mods for free.
Bethesda and a select number of money grubbers fail to understand that there's a difference between that and running an eshop for shitty texture swaps

>>388542290
>>388542208
https://twitter.com/DogtoothCG/status/902243719729913856

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>>388546930
That's not fair, I only bought the horse armor because it was bundled with this.

And they are still shilling Skyrim. Motherfuckers. Its from 2011 stop gobbling the shit up.

>>388547070
You bought it. You're part of the problem. Should have pirated it if you absolutely couldn't live without your precious horse armour.

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>>388545214
haha

>>388538027
horse armor was paid dlc. its basically a minor mod that people paid for just like creation club shit

>>388546821
What do you expect from a third party dev that only got a crash course on the engine and 18 months?

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>>388545214
>it's like mini DLCs
And this is supposed to be a good thing, how?

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>>388537870
Have you seen the facebook posts? PS4 faggots and Xboners are literally begging to pay them for mods.

>>388547392
Because micro transaction DLC sounds better than paid mods to them

>>388545874
Got more of this?

>>388547009
>John Cain
won't even read that gibberish

>>388537759
Are they ever going to make good story expansion packs again?
Or is it just going to be autistic minecraft DLC from now on?

The only possible good thing about this is ensuring compatibility with other mods, but that's no excuse for this level of jewry

>>388547470
Consoles are a mistake. They are the root of everything wrong with the games industry.

>>388537759
>4 dollars for a gun that is already in the game with modified stats
What the fuck

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>>388547603
>compatibility with other mods

>>388541773
Hello fellow gamer, I too am excited about the new content only available on Creation Club™

>>388547536
Apparently the same armor he added through a mod was in development for their marketplace. The armor itself is based on some DLC or something. Total "Cucked to Death" Biscuit just went on trying to stir shit up on twitter as usual.

>>388547752

All mods on the CC are designed to be compatible with each other. This of course means there won't be any gameplay mods.

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>>388542208
It's surely only a matter of time before you are forced to remove your mods from nexus and other sites before you can put them on CC.

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>>388537759

Notice on their website under "What types of content will be included in Creation Club?" there is no mention of quest mods as if they know they're not capable of producing any serious content, or is a subtle smack in the face about what kind of consumer they cater to.

>>388537870
that's what my friend said about cancer

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>this entire thread
what are y'all poor or something?

>>388548934
It's not like they say anything about the list being exhaustive, but I guess it says something about their priorities. The shitty armor and weapon mods they advertise with wouldn't require much QA, and it's easier to trick people into buying overpriced micro-DLC than overpriced DLC with actual content. So you'd expect them to focus on those mods if they just want to extract easy money for little effort.

as far as i know, this is more similar to beth hiring modders to make cheap extra content

tell me how is this different from a modder being hired by beth to do some freelance work?

>>388549790
>this is more similar to beth hiring modders to make cheap extra content
But that's exactly what it is, they are contracting work out to modders, paying them a upfront agreed amount, then keeping any profits.

>>388537759
>no cunny mods
When will they learn what their audience really wants?

>>388549680
poor bait and if you don't bait and don't get that this ain't about money than you're double digit IQ retard and i cant comprehend how adult person can think like you

>>388547603
>bethesda
>compatibility
pick one

>>388537759
So even retextures are going to cost money? There goes Bethesdas "only top quality mods curated by us will be on the store :^)" excuse.

>>388540238
>create their own
Lmao can you imagine? They can't even make SKSE work with a newer version of Skyrim. You think people can just whip up mod tools?

>>388542294
no we won't you hopeless moron

>>388548350
Something's gonna broke that's an assurance.

>>388550606
correction:
You think bethesda can just whip up mod tools?

>>388551190
Nigga what the fuck are you correcting in my post? Of course Beth can whip up tools for their own game. The idea was people, randos like you and I, we aren't capable of authoring complex mod tools for their games. If we were then we wouldn't have this Skyrim SE issue.

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>>388549957
then whats the problem? its just beth looking for freelancers, only they are specifically targeting modders

>>388543408
I would pay $8 buck for Kass that's for sure

>>388542294
This. There's no way I'm ever buying another Bethesda game if they really keep trying to push this. Their games are infinitely better with mods, the community always saves their half-finished titles after the fact. So now Bethesda expects us to not only pay them for an unfinished, buggy mess, and for the mods other people make to fix their game? Nah man...that's just one of the most absolutely disgusting models I've ever seen. I refuse to be part of it

>>388549790
It amounts to essentially the same: We get shitty overpriced content, at the expense of free mods. It's up for debate exactly how much free mods will be affected by modders abandoning their projects to work for Bethesda, but it's definitely a negative effect, regardless of exact magnitude. That makes this whole deal a net loss for anyone who are not interested in buying content from the Creation Club (i.e. reasonable people).

>>388551564
>freelancers
Nigga if you don't shut all the way the fuck down with that bullshit. This is not "freelancers" getting work for Bethesda. This is capitalism sinking it's fucking claws into your hobby and ripping it to pieces. They're looking at something that has been free since before fucking DOOM came out and trying to create a secret club money funnel to sucker in mark-ass teenagers, young adults, and autists (which I say with love, as autists make some of the best mods) into doing their work for them at a microcosm of the cost.

>>388551469
fucking SKSE is third party

IF bethesda coudve whipped up their own script extender for x64 why the fuck didnt they? they wanted to make bank on the x64 bit edition of skyrim but it LITERALLY is just a copy paste into a 64 bit engine

everyone is STILL waiting on the x64 bit script extender before jumping ship

bethesda cant do shit with coding

hell EVERY fallout game they release is STILL using the morrorwind engine
just with reskined spells as guns

this is why FO4 is ASSS for performance

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>>388537759
Meanwhile I can get expansion sized mods for free that are higher quality than the base game.

what did bethesda mean by this?

You know, I'm starting to wonder if the whole Skyrim SE not being properly moddable thing was a dry run for future practices to discourage modding outside the CC.

>>388552138
>build tools for people to create nice shit
>spergs on /v/ still give full credit to modders
hmmmmmmmmmmm
really gets the neurons firing

Does anyone know what kind of mods there will be in the Creation Club? I heard they're bringing some "famous" modders together to create something but is it actually gonna be these big "DLC" sized mods or is it just gonna be these reskins and shit like in OP?

>>388552258
>not giving full credit to people who probably spent more hours working on their 4k or 8k texture overhaul than Beth spent making the entire original object in their engine

>>388552208
It is properly moddable, what are you talking about?
The entire reason you don't see fleshed out mods is because 1 it's a re-release late into the lifecycle, and 2 it requires a hefty amount of work to update current tools for basically nothing
the skse fags arent even around anymore its some new fatties who haven't updated in months

>>388551564
Because they're attempting to monetize what people have been doing as a hobby? Along with suddenly no longer talking to the SE makers, hiding game files and making their games more of a hassle to mod, it's almost like they are trying to start forcing out competition.

>>388547940
godammit todd you cant just make shit up

>>388552404
>can't use SKSE, a requirement for basically every complex and worthwhile mod
>properly moddable
I'd laugh if it didn't hurt so much.

>>388552138
>that are higher quality than the base game

Bruma is impressive and all, but come on.

>>388552567
>the skse fags arent even around anymore

>>388552642
Skyrim doesn't exactly set a high bar for things like level design voice acting and writing.

>>388552293

Trainwiz claims that there will be quest and other substantial content, but he's also a shill (as every other modder who is in the CC) so it's not like you can take his word.

>>388552293
Unless they're really bad at showcasing what they're going for, it looks like they're planning to focus on micro-DLC.

Why did everyone blame Valve for this when it was clearly Bethesda all along?

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>>388553329
they are all evil

>>388545476
...or play a different game if theres literally no point to even playing this since literally anything can be changed

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>>388544125
DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE

>>388553329
valve laid the groundwork by selling skins people made for tf2 and cs.

>>388546546
Unity sold fuckhuge amounts too.

The things is with this new preorder economy a bad game will still sell gangbusters. It's the game that releases after it that gets shafted because people who felt burned by the last game won't preorder it.

>>388552293
They can't do quest mods for Creation Club since that would require them to hire the 2 MC voices to record new lines at the very least.

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Get your mods now, folks!
They'll run out soon, so buy them while you can!
Don't forget to preorder Skyrim for the Nintendo Switch while youre already here!

>>388554402
A bad game might sell a lot of units day one but it'll drop hard and a company repeatedly releasing bad games will lead to people not preordering any more. Watch Dogs 2 sold pretty badly compared to the first one.

>>388553027
Does trainwiz make anything besides quest mods?
It's not like he can make a Thomas the Tank Engine race mod.

>>388537870
Consolefriends are already eating it up.

Imagine being so much of a shitbrain that you're ready to pay money to get a mod on your gimped platform, instead of playing the same game on the superior platform with unlimited control.

I wish we could just travel back in time to sixth gen (sans DirectXboxhueg) and start over.

>>388554809
There are already people reusing voice lines for the main characters as is, why wouldn't Bethesda be able to do the same?

Gonna be honest, I don't give much of a fuck about paid mods. Hardly anyone's going to actually pay for them so there's still going to be plenty of free mods available.

>>388556180
>Implying consolefags aren't stupid enough to do just that
>Implying this won't have a negative impact on PC players
5 credits have been deposited to your account :^)

>>388537759
>charging for a pip boy texture

that's actually fucking disgusting

>>388542294
brainless normies out number people that give a shit about the hobby a million to one
they will always sell

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>>388537870
Just like paid online right? Haha, Xbox Live is unsustainable and Nintendo and Sony would never do something that scummy, right?
Charging us to play online when we already play an internet bill.
It won't catch on.


Haha.

>>388556330
not gonna defend it, but at least the one displayed there has an actual new textures. there's a black one that's the same price, literally the vanilla texture with a different tint

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THERES LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH PAID MODS THEY SUPPORT YOUR FAVORITE DEVS AND SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY STOP BEING POOR FAGS

>>388555556

There are many types of quest mods that you wouldn't want to pay for.

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>>388552138
>People making wooden statues shouldn't get full credit for their work beacuse they didn't invent knives, chisels and whatever tools they use
hmmmmmmmmmmm
really gets the neurons firing

>>388557581
I've liked trainwiz's stuff. I wouldn't pay for the Skyrim Romance mod but another Wheels of Lull or Blackreach Railway sure

>>388557653
Fuck, meant to quote >>388552258.

>>388557653
I don't understand. Could you rephrase it as a food metaphor?

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>>388557829
Sure.
>A chef baking a cake shouldn't get full credit for his work beacuse he didn't invent oven

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>>388537759

wuew