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I honestly think Metal Gear is horribly overrated. People treat

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I honestly think Metal Gear is horribly overrated.

People treat it like this incredible piece of art that can't be criticized when it's full of overt exposition, arcane mechanics and gimmicky minigames on every few minutes. And let's not mention the tons of cutscenes.

I just don't understand why it has suck an annoyingly dedicated fanbase, the game is not that good and they are pretty much the most rabid vidya related fanbase out there.

It is a meme?
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>>388526995
>I honestly think Metal Gear is horribly overrated.

No you don't.
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>>388527064
Well the 2d ones are okay. The 3d ones suck.
2D > 3D
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>arcane
Archaic?
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>>388526995
>I can't beat a Metal Gear game waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!
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>arcane mechanics
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>>388526995
>what happens when men take their muscles too serious?

F-FOUR SCOOPS C'MON!!
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>>388527152
Nah. I wouldn't say that. Just weird.

>>388527182
It's not that hard but people give it way too much credit. And I just don't understand why it's so universally praised.

Basically looks like one of the biggest gaming sacred cows out there.
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Remember that african surgery scene in MGSV? was that necessary? not it wasn't. Kojewma thinks he is a movie master and an emotional manipulator
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It's a fantasy game in a military setting based loosely in real world history. It has a lot of memorable moments and easter eggs. The characters are loveable and the visual design is very good.

There.
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MGS1 aged like Milk in everything but visuals
MGS2 is ok but some design choices were stupid and they didn't get the controls right until MGS3. Awkward game that tries to do much but at least succeeds in a couple of things.
MGS3 is really good but it suffers from direction and focus, stealth is an option now even in higher difficulties and there's too much menus and unless shit you'll never use. Good game with minor flaws.
MGS4 has amazing gameplay but suffers from a lot of movies and cutscenes that don't even make sense, also has shit bosses with good gimmicks at least, aside from the final boss and REX vs RAY, that is.
MGSV is just underwhelming and not good, they fucked up so much I don't even know where to begin.

So I agree, overrated series but I can at least see why people like them so much.
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>>388527781
>MGS1 aged like Milk in everything but visuals
>He still thinks Twin Snakes it not the definitive version of MGS
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>>388527781
>aside from the final boss and REX vs RAY
I honestly can't wait for this meme to die
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>>388526995
The more games I play the more I feel that Metal Gear is massively overrated
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>>388527781
That makes sense. Thanks.

Also yeah, MGS1 do look really great. I like how they managed to make it look serious with such limited hardware.
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>>388527983
Forgot to mention that MGS1 is also good in the story department (for whatever that's worth), the villain is iconic there's good twists and most boss fights (assuming you aren't a nostlagiafag) are pretty decent.
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>>388527983
>MGS1 do look really great
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>>388528112
Call my crazy. I always loved that low-poly look.
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>>388528098
Yeah. MGS2 had good intentions but if somebody is spoiled it pretty much ruins the flow of the game story.

MGS1 is more straitforward.
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>>388528193
that's because you have the worst kind of autism
I'm an autist and I always hated that, even in 1996 when my father gave me a PS1
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>>388528309
what else did your father give you, anon?
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>>388528309
Maybe you are not autistic enough.
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>>388528362
Honesty and decency. Things you'll never understand
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>>388526995
Yeah me too and I can give you a reason, people like to defend what they grew up with, we have Pokemon,Digimon,CoD whatever game they grew up with kiddies that are blinded by nostalgia, MGS is by no means a bad series but it's not as good as people make it out.
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>>388527134
But Metal Gear 1 is the worst out of the series not counting spin-offs
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>>388526995
I hate metal gear because the fun one to actually play, V, everyone hates because muh open world and shit story. jesus why don't you faggots read a book or watch a movie this is video games for christs sake
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>>388528309
I think 'hating' a well-executed art style adapted to the hardware limitations of the time makes you the real autist here
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>>388527342
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>>388528815
>art style
buzzword
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>>388528812
>empty world
>helicopter ride
>rehashed missions
>bloody screen hp
>useless motherbase
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>>388527134

Yeah cause you totally went trough mg1, how old are you?
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>>388528309
autists cant diagnose other autists.
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>>388528665
people make it bad because it's old
MGS was great because it brought things well, a good rythm, great cameras, an autistic but fun story, characters that were less one dimentional and was better than the competition at the time
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>>388527342
i miss Rich
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>>388528098
>good
Yeah, for video games. It's anime tier to be honest.
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>>388528665
Yeah, That explains it.

It has many good ideas, I totally agree on that.
I guess the stuff I heard online gave me too high expectations and not enough "real info" on the game so I got a tad dissappointed.

I basically expected The Rock (if you remember that movie) the game with a little bit closer to Deux Ex's gameplay.

I mean you have tons of cool tools but you very rarely have to use them, many times there are specialist areas, at least in MGS2 where you have a gimmick that will rarely return. Sure it makes the game varied up but it doesn't give that feeling of a mastery over a system...

I got binos, I wanna use the binos.
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Only contrarian underages dislike mg.
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>>388528951
>empty world
It's not a role playing game
>helicopter ride
Gives flair to the game, 30 seconds
>rehashed missions
Optional
>bloody screen hp
not an argument
>useless motherbase
that's where all your weapons come from, retard.
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>>388528930
>buzzword
not an argument
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>>388528815
>hardware limitations of the time
This is irrelevant. This anon >>388527781 said it aged well.
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Metal Gear is my favorite anime/movie/videogame
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>>388529358
>I have shit taste and defend the cancer killing videogames
Should've started there
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>>388529391
Yeah, and this anon >>388528193 said he loved the low-poly look

And in response, this anon >>388528309 declared he had the 'worst kind of autism' for doing so
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What I like the most is the lore.

They really should make that game with The Boss that was setting in WW2 or at least some prequel games where you either play as Solidus or Liquid.
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>>388529459
Whoa, it sure must be painful to know that someone has a different view on things. I'm not the one who has shit taste by the way. That one's you.
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>>388529810
No, not really.
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>>388529858
Yes, yes really.
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>>388529976
Whatever you say, kid
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>>388530024
Sure thing, kiddo
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>>388530134
nothing personell, kid
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>>388530220
i'm not your kid, friend
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>>388529358
Nigger do you even listen to yourself
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>>388530258
No. I am your father.
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Metal gear survive is actually a VR mission like MGS2 except its solid snake training to invade outer heaven and kill venom snake. Only you play as outer heaven soldiers to get killed by solid snake in the end. MGS6 confirmed.
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>>388526995
As far as I'm aware, Metal Gear Solid was THE game that popularized the idea of games being playable movies. It doesn't help that this was a moment in time where weeb games were very much in the mainstream
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>>388530265
Do you, /v/ermin?
>>388530354
But I'm your aunt.
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>>388526995
Up to Metal Gear Solid the games were cool and sort of experimental with their gameplay and still fun. With MGS2 Kojima decided he was too good for games and started turning the series into some kind of 10 hour art house action film. The gameplay was still pretty solid but it started to be pushed out of the way in favor of all the mediocre movie stuff. Backlash from 2 game us the much better MGS3. MGS4 is the peak of Kojima being so fa rup his own ass and making an incomprehensible action movie reject plot into the focus for 95% of the so-called game. Backlash from 4 gave us peace walker and MGSV but now Kojima is back to making shitty art "games" with death stranding.
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>>388530874
So will we have a proper game after that one?
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>>388530874
this anon nailed it. Without kojima metal gear can suck a lot less.
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>>388531097
It could go either way since Kojima isn't being wrangled by Konami anymore.
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>>388526995
Who is this scrawny puke? He looks about as beefy as a vegan diet,
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>>388528728
PW isn't a spin off
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>>388531631
Nobody could honestly believe that PW is worse than MGS4... could they?
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>>388532075
MGS4 just barely gets ahead because there are some fun gameplay elements that would be great in a better game. PW has literally nothing redeeming about it.
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>>388528925
>eat big
Isn't that dude a roid monster though?
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>>388528925
>you to eat have big
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>>388532760
You still have to work out and eat big when you take steroids, though
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>>388532760
test, tren, db, gh, and insulin won't do all the work for you. You still gotta eat big if you wanna get big.
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>>388528112
And then Ocelot gave her the dick until her psychotherapy faded away.
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>>388533969
>>388534137
Yeah I get that but if he's a roid monster he can't just chalk it up to food right? And again that's *if* he's a roid monster, I don't actually know but I've heard things.
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