Realistically, will any game released in the next 4 years surpass

>>388520054
Not for a while.

In my old age, BotW was the first game in 10 years where I was excited to play it again after I turned off the console.

Sure you could say there are other game out there that are fun, but BotW was fun and engaging for me.

Yes, companies will just make more money and prices will be eassier to afford for them.

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Leave toddlers to me

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>>388520373
This

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No because nintendo bonus is real. MEdicore game get 97 metacritic because +10 nintendo + 10 zelda

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>OBJECTIVELY worst version
>highest score

b-b-but a-anti nintendo bias

Fallout 4 VR is right around the corner.

>>388520548
>13-55 critics
Sample size is also a thing

>>388520548
>>388520626
>inb4 switch Skyrim gets a better score

>>388520548
this.
i can't imagine a zelda game that is under 90.
>MUH ZELDA

>>388520626
How is it objectively worse?

>>388520548
>wii has 13 critics
>ps3 and xbox have around 50

>>388520740
>>388520812
exactly, why is that allowed? it should have the same size, no?

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>>388520746

>>388520626
Why worst?

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>>388520903
DELT

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>>388520806
>>388520924
framerate and resolution

>>388520806
Objectively, it isn't

>>388520984
Portability

>>388521092
50 minutes battery

>>388520984
>I need perfect 60 fps for my low poly primitive 3d levels that ran at 30 fps in the 90s
wew lad

>>388521119
More than 180 minutes battery*

>>388520054
TLoU2

>>388521165
>low poly primitive 3d levels that ran at 30 fps in the 90s
>STILL can't keep 60fps on Shitch

hahaha

>>388520984
It's 1080p

Problem is Botw is reviewed by critics who know its a hyped up system seller and all their readers want to read is that its the best game ever so they feel slightly happier about their lives.

Multiplats cant have that score since they always design menus and gameplayer to work on both kb+mouse And gamepad which automatically makes it not a 100/100.

So unless its some Half-life 3 thats released exclusively on vives motion controls theres no competition.

>>388521218
4k on my PS4 pro at silky smooth 60fps

>>388520054
EA can spend as much money on reviews as Nintendo did, if they want.

>>388521279
If your ps4 couldn't run it at 4k 60fps, better give it

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>>388520054
>8.4 user score

>>388521281
>deflecting this hard now
so you're accepting it now? it's ok when nintendo does it huh?

>>388521368
Sonygros can't get away with this. Everybody make new accounts and rate it 10 we WILL give botw the score it deserves

>>388521279
> 16bits game
> 4k
hahaha

>>388521368
A lot of people that never played it, gave 0 to Botw

I still don't understand the nintendo bonus BOTW got, it's just fucking disgusting how every single reviewer gave it 10/10
I mean, it's a good game, i had a lot of fun with it, but in no way it's perfect

>>388520054
Red Dead Redemption 2 or The Last of Us Part 2 are the only ones who have a shot on the foreseeable future, I think.

Realistically yes if it wasn't for the 10/10 Nintendo bonus it had gotten. It's not perfect so it shouldn't have gotten that score, and if it weren't for it, it would be in the high 80's-low 90's where it should be.

No, even if they made a new Zelda game that fixed all the problems of the previous one it'd still only get a 92 because reviewers are contrarians.

>Nintendo bonus
Thats not a thing. Its called "making goof games"

>>388520054
No because any Zelda game gets an instant 85+ regardless of it being good or not because reviewers are pressured to praise it since it is the most beloved vidya franchise.

>>388520054
>>388521873
A good chunk of those people just said that it was the greatest game of all time without even explaining it. If that isn't bullshit I don't know what is.

Remember in spite of attention whore critics, that Breath of the Wild broke records for most perfect scores ever.

For somebody to challenge that record, you need somebody with a history of bullying critics like Rockstar, or to do something for your genre, like what Breath of the Wild did for 3D action adventure.

>>388521798
see >>388520548 >>388520626

>>388520054

I really don't get it.
It's probably my least favorite mainline Zelda.

>>388520054
Metroid Prime 4 babyyyyyy

>>388522010
What did BotW do?

>>388521279
pro isn't 4k brother its just upscaled 1080p

>>388522272
People think it's the first game to have climbing.

>>388522310
sonic mania is native 4k on the Pro, nintenbro

>>388522507
so amazing.

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>>388522925
720p with framerate drops on Shitch
hhahaha

>>388520054
Why the fuck does Zelda have so much more reviews than any other Nintendo game?

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>>388521232
>and all their readers want to read is that its the best game ever so they feel slightly happier about their lives

>>388520054
Who cares? People will always suck Mario and Zelda's dicks. So long as the game is decent it basically translated into a masterpiece for the masses.

>>388522507
>4k for a game that renders all its graphics at 240p
I knew son1ggers were dumb but holy shit

>>388523375
You cannot be this retarded. Is this how nintendo toddlers justify their shitty graphics and performance?

>>388523168
i hope you're baiting because you got a (You) out of me this easily for that retarded post.

>>388523204
it doesn't even need to be decent, skyward sword has a metacritic of 93

>>388523449
it's retarded because it's telling the truth?

the amount of projection in that post was immeasurable.

>>388521171

Hahaha, no. Not with their SJW infused shit they have going. Their stand alone DLC was rated badly, then out of curiosity I gave it a gander online and it was worse than that. They were being kind to it.

>>388524021
truth about what? that critics should pander to their readers writing what they like because of "muh fun" instead of disclosing the objective aspects of a game? ok let me just put all the games i like a big fat 100 for enjoyment then, is this what you support? you're seriously fucking brain damaged

>>388524253
what makes you think they're pandering in the first place? retard

>>388525265
I'm not generalizing, but you're a fucking idiot if you're to deny that this happens, a lot of reviewers know their audience and soften or harden on subjective aspects on purpose.

>>388525854
I'm not denying it, just what makes you think they're doing it just to make their readers happy in this instance? Every popular game with a high score is pandering and every low score is objectivity?

You're a retardo who thinks the average person derives joy from seeing high scores on a review and thinking the reviewer does it for their readers. They're not you, hence projection.

>>388521676
Both of which has no shot. TLOU especially, but I don't think ti's really sunk in yet just how genre defining BOTW really is. Other open world games simply won't be able to compete due to how well the physics and general game design are handled.

Take the way Zelda handles quest markers. You're supposed to actually look around at the environment to decide on where you want to go next, and on the way you will find something new and interesting. The Witcher 3, in comparison, basically just hand holds you to exactly where you are supposed to go in a linear, open fashion.

>>388526550
>Take the way Zelda handles quest markers. You're supposed to actually look around at the environment to decide on where you want to go next

you mean you get 4 giant blue quest markers on your map and have nothing but copy paste shrines and moblin camps between you and them

>>388526154
>in this instance
never said it was in this instance and your quote to that post was pointing at the context of the phrase, interjecting with the fun excuse, at least be aware of what are you putting in your fucking post.
>every high score is pandering and ever low score is objectivity?
never said that, retard, care to read BotW reviews on the metacritic page then? i wanna see the great objetivity these are upholding among the endless 100 i see there.

>>388520626
Whoever seriously buys and plays Sonic games that aren't on Nintendo consoles are fucking retards.

>>388526616
>You just run right and jump in Super Mario Bros! How is this fun?
>You just eat all the pellets in Pac-Man while avoiding ghosts! How is that fun?
>You just explore the map in Metroid, how is this fun?

>>388520054
RDR2 might. Critics loves whatever trash Rockstar puts out. I reinstalled GTA 5, did some missions and got bored again. I'm serious it's like the game is there but the gameplay is just fucking mediocre.

>>388526770
>Whoever seriously buys and plays the objectively superior versions of the games because they aren't blinded by brand loyalty are fucking retards.

>>388520054
>ocarina of time gets a 10/10 because it changed the landscape of gaming forever
>twilight princess got a 10/10 because it was trying to be ocarina the whole time
>botw got a 10/10 because it had less content than any open world game

remember when you had to literally be the best game of all time to get that sweet 10/10? now they're handed out seemingly every week.

>>388520054
if it's another zelda game, then yeah.

>>388526836
It's not going to happen. Even GTAV only got a 97.... a score that most fans agree it doesn't actually deserve.

Rockstar is on it's way out, critically. Their brand of open world games is not fresh or new anymore.

>>388520054
Skyrim VI

>>388526761
>never said it was
projection, not wanting other people to have fun, now lying? how low can u go

>never said that
you were implying it

>>388527783
After the way Fallout 4 was received? No way.

Now that these AAA games hvae had a couple of entries, people are starting to get bored of them.

>>388527871
incredible, you don't even know what the word projection is actually used on. You don't even know what i was pointing out.
>i don't want other people to have fun
never said that, go ahead and quote me, retard, or go back to whatever site you came from.

>>388528295
what's more incredible is you actually think people depend on reviews for happiness and that reviewers pander to their readers by giving high scores.

that's projection and hating other people having fun from not having the same taste as you.

why are you such a retard that you assume these things? go outside fool.

>>388528510
>>>388528295 (You)
>what's more incredible is you actually think people depend on reviews for happiness and that reviewers pander to their readers by giving high scores.
so it never happens? you said it yourself you don't deny it i even gave you the cases and you agreed.
>that's projection and hating other people having fun from not having the same taste as you.
>hating on other people having fun
where did i imply that? can you point it out explicitly?
>why are you such a retard that you assume these things? go outside fool.
ironic, YOU just assumed these things out of me.
Go away, underage.

>>388528946
>he keeps replying like a true underage
i did say I don't deny it, it can happen sometimes, but why assume it happens with this game? that's why I said in this instance. you got no proof even.

>>388521165
>no perfect 60 fps for low poly primitive 3d levels that ran at 30 fps in the 90s

2017 hardware not gimped at all bt w

>>388520350
It's possible, GTA IV was a 98, RDR a 95, and GTA V a 97. If the tech is as good as it looks in the trailers it'll probably score over 95 because open world games like this get reviewed based on presentation and technology.

>>388529786
>why assume it happens with this game
>hyped up system seller and all their readers want to read is that its the best game ever
Because people literally bought a console to play that 1 game.

Subtract the 15 nostalgia points and you get the actual score.


Have a switch and botw and I hate both.

>>388529786
aww, are you going to deflect now? these people should get an awful and unobjective review because they like it, right? poor people

>>388530129
yes, majority of the people playing it will look at metacritic first right? just how majority of filmgoers will let rotten tomatoes decide for them?

just because you need metacritic to feel validated about your gaming purchase doesn't mean it applies to everybody

>>388530613
>deflection
rigging reviews to make people happy happened with dragon age inquisition, because they didn't want bayonetta to win the goty race, despite being a buggy mess and a shitty story. plus ride the bull and stuff.

you have no proof with zelda.

>>388530908
>deflecting even more AND moving goalposts
>other companies do this, nintendo is free of guilt
epic, i've already told you to go and read the 100' reviews of BotW, are still going to cover your ears? Fucking retard.

>>388531280
proof you fucking insecure console warrior.
>https://techraptor.net/content/game-awards-judge-reveals-bias-bayonetta-2
because that up there is proof that people did rig reviews for DA:I so the pro sjw crowd wouldn't get pissed.

>covering your ears
sure it's not you screaming wolf?

>>388530523
>Have a switch and botw and I hate both.

timestamp.

>>388531582
can you even read? did i even ask you for something that was already known, are you literally this braindead?
>screaming wolf
do i have to repeat everything to you, retard? go and read these reviews, and tell me how any of these seem at least reasonable or even ask yourself how the game serves a 100 in the first place. You're still here deflecting, resorting to strawmans and running in circles and not even disproved me on a single point.

>>388520548
having a handheld experience automatically makes the game more fun.

>>388532196
>wii
>handheld

>>388532126
>no proof about reviewers giving zelda 100 to make their readers happy
nice strawmen faggot.
so all this is is a manchild's tantrum about a game he doesn't like or even played getting high scores, and has to resort to tinfoil hatting to rationalize the seething anger he's feeling.

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>>388520054

>>388532261
Hes talking about zelda. Switch being portable adds 10 points to any game.

>>388520626
see>>388532196

>>388532454
>still deflecting
>doesn't even know what strawman is used for
>i don't like BoTW
i don't? quote me
>he adamantly defends unreasonable reviews and calls on proofs when it's abnormal itself for a game with its flaws on composition and pacing to receive such "flawless" reception.

>>388532904
so it's deflection when I call you out, just like how high scoring reviews for botw are pandering?

tell me more about how you depend on reviews for your own personal happiness, you sad retard

>>388523092
It was given away for free with a Switch to various ecelebs, youtubers and small reviewers such that they would more likely give it favorable reviews.

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>gaming journalist scores

>>388533170
>just because you don't need metacritic to feel validated about your gaming purchase doesn't mean it applies to everybody
quoting you
Reviewers will pander to their audiences to retain them and people will resort to their favorite reviewer with an expected score because of their insecurity, people like this exist, are you going to deny it?
>inb4 how
people is autistic like you too.

>>388533770
I still honestly think SS was better than DS2

>>388520903
Man, that game was bad. I played with two friends who are huge zelda fans and even they hated it.

>>388534160
the point is they're both shit

>>388535028
Nah. I get neo/v/ likes to shit on everything but SS is a 38 Hours long game. For 60 hours that's really good dollar/hour ratio

>>388534062
>Reviewers will pander to their audiences to retain them and people will resort to their favorite reviewer
This is true.
>with an expected score because of their insecurity, people like this exist, are you going to deny it?
No, because you exist. Doesn't apply to BOTW as well seeing as there's reviewers who gave it a high score despite not being Nintendo sites.

You still don't have proof about the rigging, it's all assumption bs. And now I'm the autist for demanding proof, not the one wanting his tinfoil hat theory to be taken as fact without evidence.

>>388522223
>in the next 4 years

>>388535184
38 hours of rehashing the same areas 3 times. 38 hours of bad combat. SS is pure shit

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>>388535184
>calls someone nu-/v/
>is okay with playing 40 hours of a game where something as basic and crucial as the controls are fucked
"j-just get used to the garbage, guys!! s-s-star fox zero is a hidden gem too!!"

>>388535489
I disagree. It's just because it's Zelda so people expected it to be GOAT when it wasn't.

>>388535250
>because you exist
huh? pretty sure i didn't say the word everyone
>there's reviewers who gave it high score despite not being Nintendo sites.
and...?
>No proof
you proof is here >>388533770 you don't even need to compare it to DaS2, and don't forget to check all the other major Zelda titles. Nintendo bias exists being bribery or not.

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Why do people get so hung up on metacritic scores on here?

Ive played and enjoyed BOTW, but,

Some of the most beloved games on /v/ have mediocre meta scores and some of the shittiest games out there have near 100 ratings. Its meaningless.

Like rotten tomatos or imdb for films. Its all just jargon numbers representing peoples' (mainly people with bad taste) opinion.

Why not form your own opinion instead of parroting others based on an arbritrary number?

>>388535810
>proof
that's not proof. proof is something that is undeniable, all you're showing me are two games and the salt you're exuding for skyward sword having a higher metacritic.
if I have to ASSUME then it's not proof at all.

>Nintendo bias
i've always wondered why console warriors assume only nintendo has this +10 point bias crap when nintendo has never cared for review scores, but western devs do.

>>388535904
his happiness depends on it, and in true /v/ fashion, assumes everyone else also does and lashes out at them for it.

>>388520626


Sonic Mania FEELS right on the Switch, obviously.

>>388520054
Meh. It's still a 7/10 for me. A lot of groundwork and detail and polish all in service of literally zero depth. What little story is given is poorly written and poorly voiced, the non-Shrine sidequests are all "fetch me five boar tusks" or "fetch me 40 bundles of sticks" or "be my messenger boy".

The clever uses of elements is great but there are no real dungeons to take meaningful advantage of the elemental versatility. Several puzzles can simply be cheesed by exploiting Stasis or metal weapons conducting electricity. If there were actual dungeons with depth to them maybe I'd feel more impressed and not like they just had an idea and threw it in because whatever.

Combat is brain dead, 3 movesets with one 3-tier charge move for each (can't charge arrow shots for some reason), Flurry Rush is so generous that the timing is actually hard to get used to, because you can often activate one by dodging before the enemy's attack animation even fucking starts.

music is smatterings of piano which i think any piano-playing zelda fan could have made about as well. the rest of the tracks didn't particularly stand out to me either. (i thought the remix of Dragon Roost Island was just wheezy like the song was out of breath, made me want to go listen to the original instead whenever i heard it).

Becoming stronger in the main game only makes the final boss more of a joke, the more effort you make to get better armor, gear, completing the Beasts, the less of a challenge Ganon is. To the point where the only way to even be slightly challenged is fighting him on a new game without doing any of the divine beasts or upgrading your armor. and even that doesn't fix his second phase which you have to be braindead to die to.

The sense of exploration alone is what is getting most of the praise and I agree with that much, it's extremely fun to explore the game. i just wish there was more than koroks to find.

>>388536287
>only nintendo has
what a way outing yourself as a shill, it's not only nintendo, hard evidences don't exist for most studios/publishers, this is reflected on performance itself and lack of credibility or contradictory statements on the reviews not reflecting the impression given on text when this has to be complete and explicative.
You are not going to prove anything either for a game that clearly doesn't deserve the reception it gets unless a real leak happen, don't try to act almighty because because other people can't do whan you don't want and can't do either.

>>388532003
Dont feel like it.

>>388536730
This old pasta again..

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do i need to post the rest?

>>388540269
... excuse me? Having my own opinion is a pasta now? I didn't steal this from anyone, I wrote it out assuming this was a discussion of scores in relation to BOTW, so I was simply saying the game is a few points overrated.

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well, /v/?

>>388540464
ok this one legit triggers me, post more

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hmmm what's nintendo bonus? i dont know man

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Man can't wait to play the best version of Cave Story in glorious 240p

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what's this game even

>>388540804
what the fuck

>>388540687
Defend this nintenbros.

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WE

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>>388520350
Top kek. RDR2 get 'suspiciously' postposed once BotW was released.

I reckon R* looked at Nintendo's game and how much of a mockery it makes of every other open wolrd game and hastily decided to rework it.

>you will never be THIS autistic

how rustled are your jimmies?

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>>388541214
>kings field
>anything borrowed from BING BING WAHOO

>>388520626
You're a fucking retard.

Game reviews take into consideration the hardware it's running on. And playing old-school Sonic on a portable Nintendo console is just a far better fit.

Fucking deal with it child.

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>>388520746
>i can't imagine a zelda game that is under 90.

I know right? It almost like Nintendo are good at making games or something. Really makes you think.

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>>388541439
I agree, playing this racing game on the WiiU just feels better, it's warmer, the sound stage and dynamics are night and day, the oxygen free WiiU discs just feels right in the hands of the know

>>388541331
Oh look, it's another clueless child who understands fuck all about game design. Whodda fucking think it?

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>>388521171
This. I bet the paychecks have been already sent.

>>388529938
I wonder what kind of horror they must have coded to make something that simple have dips
This is beyond indian CS degree, they must have put flags and triggers every two inches to fuck up this hard

>>388541683
>i have never played kings field

stopped reading there

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>>388541653
Not all versions of games are equal you idiot.

I bet you think the PlayStation 2 version of Resident Evil 4 is exactly the same as the GameCube version.

It's not. The GC version is vastly superior.

It's funny how assblasted kiddies like you have to resort to insane conspiracy theories to rationalise in your mind how Nintendo continually gets critical appraisal.

>sony autists sperging about nintendo bonus

Will we ever get something more cringy?

>>388542029
The PS2 version of RE4 had additional content missing from the GC version. It was definitely the superior version.

>presented with truths

>BUT BUT NINTENDO VERSION ARE ALWAYS BETTER!

adios amigo, i seriously hope they port witcher 3 to the 3ds and it might be the best version ever

>>388538552
t. liar.

>>388542246
skyrim will tell you this

>>388520350

>sonykeks this delusional

NEVER EVER

>>388542621
it will have better score than the ps4/xbone version
screencap this

>>388542149
It looked shitter and it played shitter. Fact.

>>388542735
are the ps4 and xbone version portable?
Will your rectum ever recover?

>>388520054
Probably.

BotW is a milestone in the gaming landscape which sets a new high standard for an entire genre. Games like this only come around once a decade or so.

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>>388542029

>get justifiably mocked for "it just feels right y'know"
>b-b-but resident evil 4!

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>>388541439
>SHITTIER HARDWARE IS A FEATURE ITS ONLY FITTING SONIC MANIA RUNS WORST ON IT


Holy fucking shit I cant believe what I'm reading right now

This place really is Nintengaf

>>388543370
>>388543407
What's the best version of Tetris? Oh that's right, the humble GameBoy version. Whodda fucking thunk it?

>Asscreed 3 and 4 on PS3 are the highest rated versions
>So is Arkham City and Origins
>And the Wii U version of Bayonetta is a point lower than PS3s

Wow, must be that Sony bonus

>>388544527
The arcade versions will forever be superior stupid pleb

>>388543105
>BotW is a milestone in the gaming landscape
No it's not, objectively it's a shitty mediocre game which literally bring 0 innovative gameplay to the industry. Heck in term of Metacritic, GTAIV had it beat which goes to show you how shit BoTW is.

>>388544543
Sonygr0es have to resort to tinfoil hat delusional conspitacy theories rather than admit Nintendo made a good game. Hilarious.

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>Games with high scores are never good, because game journos hate fun and only want artsy cinematic games. (this means Zelda isn't a good game)

Or

>metacritic is never wrong, because every game journo loved Zelda so they're objectively correct (this means games like TLOU and Uncharted are better than games like Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Smash Brothers, Splatoon, and pretty much every other game on the WiiU and Switch)

Pick your choice /v/.

>>388545558
>objectively it's a shitty mediocre game
Oh the salty tears.

>>388545558
Shut up, kid, you sound so upset, stop lashing out at entertainment software for being praised.

>>388545998
Maybe those two games got their praise on different merits you fucking retard.

>>388546627
Stop trying to argue logically with this faggot, he posts this shit in every Zelda thread and always deflects or insults when you explain why it's a false equivalence.

>>388545645
What if I told you Nintendo has made many good games over the past generation and that BoTW is not one of them? Am I still a Sony nigger simply because I don't worship BoTW? Am I a Sony nigger for having Kid Icarus Uprising as one of my favorite games?

>>388546336
>>388546425
>When the butthurt sets in and you bring shitty non argument at the table

But seriously though BoTW is a shitty mediocre game, that's why it has the same score as GTAV. At least GTAV is still alive and well years after its release, BoTW is literally dead and forgotten now.

>>388546970
Nah mate, you just have shit taste. Don't let it keep you awake.

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>>388546627
>>388546783
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us

>every single high rating journalist praises the gameplay along with the story

You were saying?

>>388546970
Shut up, falseflagging retard, nobody cares about your le ebin post ironic mental gymnastics.

>>388520746
>i can't imagine a zelda game that is under 90.
8.8 was a meme long before you were born, kiddo.

>>388547053
>BoTW is literally dead and forgotten now.

And yet here we are....

>>388547093
Yes but nobody praised the exploration, verticality, elemental properties or physics in the last of us, just the survival elements and gunplay.
You are making a false equivalence.

>>388547075
I think the one who worships a standard open world game but with muh physics engine is the one who has shit taste here. BoTW fails as a Zelda game and yet receives nothing but undeserved praise because it panders to normalfags.

>>388547253
You can keep posting this all you want, it will never become true.
I've yet to see a worse losing battle than the people trying to convince themselves that Zelda is a bad game.

>>388547253
Sorry but if you hate BotW you just have shit taste

>>388520373
this right here is the only thing I can think of.

Also friendly reminder that zelda would have been 98 at least if it wasn't for few autist giving it 70s and 60s to bring attention to their shitty sites.

>>388547237
How is that a false equivalence? They're saying that you don't need all of that to still be one of the greatest games of this generation. Also, you're still not addressing that, if metacritic can't be argued with, than no game on the WiiU or Switch is better than TLOU, other than Zelda and Mario. Every single other game is objectively inferior. It doesn't matter if they're different genres, TLOU is a more complete package.

>>388520350
I agree. this is the only game that has a chance to get a 97+

and only because of edgelord websites like mynintendolife that will review it with a shitty score based on the merit of no nintendo console release.

>>388538552
Wow you sure showed him, fag.

>>388520626
holy shit you are retarded
those are the same thing
except you can play switch version on the go
GEE I WONDER WHICH WILL HAVE HIGHER SCORE

>>388547494
No they're not saying that, because Zelda hadn't been released when tlou came out, you have nothing resembling an argument, just like every fucking thread.

>>388541331
Miyazaki literally said Kings Field was inspired by how much he loved Zelda and he said his games were unworthy of the comparison.

>>388520054
>playing kiddy shit

kys

>>388547604
>because Zelda hadn't been released when tlou came out,
What does that have to do with this? TLOU is now a bad game because Zelda came out?

>>388547876
There is absolutely no room for comparison, the praised aspects are not the same, sample size is not the same, context is not the same, you have to read the actual reviews, people explain this to you every thread and you keep being obnoxiously stupid intentionally.

>>388547152
in a Mongolian basket-weaving forum? it's dead Jim.

>>388547756
>kiddy shit
And yet BotW treats the player with more respect and intelligence - and is ultimately far more sophisticated in its design - than just about every other open world game.

Good luck trying to refute that.

>>388520350
thanks daddy

>>388545998
The Last of Us was good you faggot.

>>388548101
You can keep saying this to yourself all you want.

>>388548060
The actual reviews say that they loved the gameplay and the story. There isn't a single review that says "the gameplay sucks but it's still great because the story". NOT A SINGLE REVIEW.

Stop cherrypicking. TLOU is one of the best games in existence, and you being a contrarian can't do a single thing to change that, because to imply that journos are wrong would be to imply that Zelda isn't one of the best games in existence.

>>388548232
The reviews didn't only talk about gameplay and story in broad terms, it got praised because of its gunplay, stealth and survival elements along with its plot, graphics and production values. You keep trying to oversimplify things to suit your false equivalence but it won't stop being a stretch.

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>>388520373
Is that a MH reference?!

>>388548440
>it got praised because of its gunplay, stealth and survival elements along with its plot, graphics and production values.
Doesn't this further prove my point? Those are all heavily related to the gameplay. Therefore they are objectively right, especially when the majority of the industry shares these viewpoints.

You're trying to argue that the majority is only wrong when it's not a Nintendo product being favoried. You're not even trying to hide your bias.

>>388548745
I'm saying that both games got praised on different criteria and there's no room for comparison, stop arguing with a strawman, the last of us is a great game and you're a fucking moron, this is why people stop arguing with you in these threads after a while, because you're arguing with yourself and a strawman.

>>388548215
It's dead Jim.

>>388547358
>Call Zelda games shit which objectively they are.
>Winning or losing
Nah m8 it's like stating that human inhale oxygen. There's nothing to win or lose by stating that, it's just basic fact.

>>388548115
>And yet BotW treats the player with more respect and intelligence
>more respect and intelligence
Intelligence of a toddler yes.

>>388549005
>being this desperate to fit in

BotW is another fantastic game in a superb series from - arguably - the best video game developers on the planet.

The hate directed at the game is 'mostly' from kiddies who have childish irrational hatred of what they perceive as being rival video game companies. Pathetic.

>>388549005

Being abrasive on the internet doesn't make you right anon, it just makes you embarrasing instead of merely boring,

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>>388548987
>the last of us is a great game

>>388549326
You're a fucking moron raised by this website, I doubt you could state an opinion of your own in any way.

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>>388549471
>if you don't like hollywood schlock praised by idiots like Jim Sterling, you're a "fucking moron"

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>>388549471
>I doubt you could state an opinion of your own in any way
That's cute.

I see no arguments against tlou deserving its praise along with Zelda, some faggot is making a false dichotomy after his false equivalence got exposed. Shitposters in this shithole are absurdly obnoxious and stupid.

>>388520054
There are planty of new better games is just the paid reviewers that gave the game such scores and also retads with next to no gaming experience.

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>>388550023

>>388550003
>I see no arguments against tlou deserving its praise along with Zelda,
He says while continuing to imply that the Ps3 and Ps4 have no games, and accusing everyone of being a sonybro when they don't like Zelda.

>>388550216
But I don't, I have a ps3, a ps4 and a nintendo switch.

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Come back when Zelda learns combat from Dragon's Dogma

>>388550295
So that explains all the accusations of "haha salty sonygros" in this, and many other threads?

>>388549095
>espousing basic fact
>fitting in
Did I hurt your feefees?

>>388549197
I wan't trying to be abrasive at all, I'm just saying BoTW is a shitty mediocre game and there is literally nothing wrong with that. It's not my fault you got triggered by basic fact.

>>388550664
You're talking about other anons and you sound pretty paranoid, did those mean nintendo fans insult your platform of choice? The assholes, here, here, it's all ok now anon, shhhhhh, shhhhhhh, no tears, only dreams now.

>>388550672
You are desperately trying to convince yourself and yourself only. Nobody that has actually played the game agrees with you.

>>388550830
All I'm asking is that you stop being a hypocrite. Is that so much to ask?

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Why the fuck does this happen exactly, is game journalism a meme? I loved Zelda, played it 160 hours, but you're just objectively wrong if you argue every single thing in the game is perfect.

Like an average casual player might say that, but how can any supposedly professional reviewer claim this game is 100% flawless. same thing happened with Skyward Sword, which everyone agrees was only average

>>388551130
How am I a hypocrite? I am defending the last of us, which I think is a great game, while defending Zelda, which I think is a great game too, my only argument is that they both got praised on different criteria and that you shouldn't judge one on the parameters the other excels, I don't expect exploration from the last of us in the same way I don't expect concise storytelling in Zelda, and I don't judge tlou on its exploration in the same way I don't judge Zelda on its storytelling.
Please point out the hypocrisy in my statement.

>>388551468
For one you made a very poorly thought out post right here. >>388549471

>I doubt you could state an opinion of your own in any way.
You say this while mindlessly parroting reviewers and lapping up whatever they tell you is good. Yet I'm wrong because I disagree with them? And you think I'm doing it to "fit in" with no evidence of that whatsoever.

>>388551667
>Every game that gets praised is shit
>Except when it suits my argument
I'm not the hypocrite here.

>>388551389

But "10/10" doesnt mean a game is flawless, it just means they really really really liked the game. Nothing wrong with that and it's not on the journalist's court for you to understand that an opinion is just an opinion and review scores are a metric of state of being.

>>388550935
>You are desperately trying to convince yourself and yourself only.
You mean I made basic study and conclude that the game is in fact shit unlike any retards that goes on to popsci tier journalism saying it's the best? wow!

>Nobody that has actually played the game agrees with you.
Nobody has said GTAIV was a shitty OW game when it was first released either but here we are.....

>>388552262
>olympic tier mental gymnastics
Like clockwork

>>388551890
Actually, my overall point is that game journos and metacritic as a whole should never be used as an arguing point for a game's favor, as all journalists are disgusting, corrupt crooks. I was trying to make this point a few posts ago, but you completely misread my intentions. There isn't a single game in existence that I like because Jim Sterling likes it, or Kotaku wrote a nice editorial about it. I like games because I consider them entertaining. I don't need some fat nu-male with a gender studies degree to tell me why it's artistic kino and "progressing the medium." Furthermore I'd appreciate it if people don't continually link to their articles and advertise for them.

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Leave weeb trash to me.

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>>388552212
That's now how these reviews are being conducted though, if you look at them most don't raise a single issue of the game or maybe write a single sentence going "there are a few minuscule issues but nothing worth mentioning..." IGN will still give a game a 7.5 if it was flawed but the reviewer didnt mind those flaws, and that's how it should be. It's too coincidental for me to believe that every single major outlet ever would collectively decide that all the flaws from BotW and SS are too minor to bring up, and they all rate their games in the "how I felt as opposed to objective technical perspective" fashion

I don't believe in the paid review meme but I do think something else is going on behind the scenes or the reviewers just fucking suck

>>388520054
I got hard with each page of scrolling. This is my new fetish.

>>388553135
>Frogposter
Post discarded.

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>>388552513
>When you use non-arguments to hide your butthurt
The best kind of butthurt.

>>388550662
Come back when every other open world game learns game design and world building from Zelda.

>Nintendo designated points are real
why is this allowed?

>>388520054
Not saying that BotW is bad but ever since 8.8 "professionals" are scared to rate mainline Zelda games low due to Zelda lunatics.
I mean just look at SS

>>388521368

Yes, a bunch of people who never played it gave it zeros, like so many other big release exclusives.

Metacritic user scores are ridiculous. 90% are either 10s or 0s. At least the professional reviewers will give outs 7s and 8s.

>>388555712
>muh Zelda bonus