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What's your hopes and expecations from the 4.1? XIV is still

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What's your hopes and expecations from the 4.1?
XIV is still the only playble mmo on the market, but can it be improved?
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>>388519419
>Hopes for 4.1
SMN fixed to a reasonable degree and I'm rewarded for my idiotic stubbornness in not wanting to drop it as my main Job.
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>>388519419
More slut glamour
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>>388519856
pls be on ultros
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>>388519419
New and not terrible haircuts. Also Ivalice is as good as CT/Wiping City
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>Hopes

That we'll have another 6 months of autistic screeching over which jobs are in the cuck shed.
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>be undercover EU on NA servers
>can't raid because raiding means staying up until 5am
>just casual leveling, doing dungeons, earning gold to furnish my cozy apartment
>log in to do last-minute weekly stuff
>get a tell out of nowhere
>asks me whether I speak german
>we're both undercover EU
>turns out he and a couple of his friends are looking for german-speaking players to form a static because timezones
>pretty cool guy, add to friends list and decide to make an LS
>tfw found myself a possible static without having to do anything
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Hopes:
That you lot finally fuck off to /xivg/

That FFXIV keeps shedding subs
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>>388520024
This.

Maybe a guardrobe.
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>What's your hopes and expecations from the 4.1?
In order of realistic to impossible

Super Savage to last more than a couple lockouts
New PVP not be terrible
RTI to tease Vieras for 5.0
MCH fixed back together
Any kind of lasting content we didn't already have in Heavensward
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>>388520202

is your name Stinkigekatzenhure or something?
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elezen
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>>388520437
Alisaie is really cute. How old is she?
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>>388520225
stay mad
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>>388520494

Old enough to get FUCKED.
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>>388520437
>>388520494
how come our elezen cant look this good
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>>388520494
Old enough
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>>388520494
Old enough to have been breed by the BIG BLACK BULL OF UL'DAH and given her loose, sultaness grade sperm tp the cuckold of light.
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>>388519419
The promised squadron update that will let you use them in dungeons.
The promised "dating on gold saucer" system.
Working server emulator so I can play XIV like a singleplayer game and never play subs again.
A sudden explosion of /ss/ Alphy doujins due to some MSQ scene.

I know none of this will ever happen but that is how this annoying "hope" thing works.
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I hope that Return to Ivalice is fun and has armor sets that look like Final Fantasy Tactics.
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>>388520428
I just have german highlighted in my search info.
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>>388519419
SCH buffs
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>>388519419
WAR fixes
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>>388520202
The static will be shit but you'll stay because you have nothing better.
Eventually someone else will quit and entire thing will fall apart.
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>>388520437
Alisaie needs to be bred before she hits her stretching stride and becomes a giraffe
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>>388518557
>How can 4,1 fix endgame for you?
1. Add an in-game parser. "Low damage" is added to the list of duty finder infringements meriting a votekick, and it doesn't require waiting 10 minutes or whatever.
2. Make clearing SSS dummies mandatory to queue for duties.
3i. SSS dummies for DPS now have intermittent "mechanics" which push you away, pull you in, or block the dummy's flank/rear.
3ii. SSS dummies for healers now have NPCs that take a constant DoT and intermittently very high damage. Basically there's now a healing and DPS check.
3iii. Some Tank SSS dummies now have multiple targets which you have to tank swap between, along with the same mechanics as DPS.
4. If you can't get within 10% of killing the dummy's HP you're banned from trying it again for 24 hours.
5. SE hires a new batch of GMs called "Dunning-Kruger moderators". They will examine all Party Finder listings and ban for a week anyone that lies about the extent of their progression; joining a farm party and causing it to wipe more than 3 times adds you to a shadowban list so you can only party with other scum.
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>>388519419
I hope to god i get a mansion and can use it to build an FC

I also hope that i actually get some friends to play with so i'm not stuck Party Finding EX Primals and getting rejected from Savage groups
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>>388519419
New sources of materia V so I can overmeld Direct Hit on my tanks instead of Det.
Current prices are fucking cancer. I'm not paying 10 times as much for 0.4% damage difference.
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Please use your tank cooldowns
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>>388521502
No. Know your role and heal me you stupid slut.
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>>388521202
>2. Make clearing SSS dummies mandatory to queue for duties.
WoW tried to do something like this with WoD, with you needing to clear trial to be able use lfg for heroics
Healer and tank trials were kick in the balls hard, with you being giving party of real retards who don't dps, stay in the aoe and don't kick casts
Dps trial was about doing 50% dps you need in heroics
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>>388521535
t. Someone who will then cry about healers not doing dps
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>>388521741
Nah, I'm smarter than that.
Only thing that matters in this game are my logs alone.
Everyone else can do gray dps for all I care. Longer encounter means the DPS I lost during phase transition is less significant.
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>>388521673
Legion trials were much better but they were also just for cosmetics. Average XIV player would probably ragequit Mage Tower even on DPS.
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>>388521710
Minion, you turn on Assist and just press arrow keys while watching your dumb chinese cartoons.
Personally I recommend controller though. Stick is better for movement and you can use it while game window isn't in focus.
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>It's a "clear" party that can't even make it to enrage.
Which are your favorite PF memes?
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>>388521983
"high dps" in the title
100% of the time the host will be gray or green
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>>388521983
>clearing for a friend

Means carry my stupid ass
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>>388521983
"3 wipes = disband"
Means "If I don't get lucky with a carry, the party will be dismantled before anyone realises it was me fucking everything up".
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>>388522337
>he's the only one in the party
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>>388521983
>Lootmaster doggo farm first come first serve
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>>388519856

This, but for guys too. Guys need more slutty/girly glamour
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>join o3s pf
>"anyone have macro?"
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I got my friend to finally try out the game, and his character can't get into my server because of congestion
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>>388522982

lol how did you not know your server is congested?
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>>388522982
>making your friend pay base game + expansions + sub + server transfer fee just to play a shitty mmo with you
wew lad
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>>388522982
Don't worry, 4.1 has cross-server friends list.
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>>388523052
retard
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Can we get rid of classes and just have jobs?
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>>388520225
Kings honor, friend
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>>388523160
Then they'd have to re-do all the 1-30 class quests
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>>388519419

is that a homestuck reference
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This is your writer for the expansion (unmarried).
Say something nice about her.
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>>388523160
No, because that's coded deep into the game's core and fixing it would require peeling off the patchwork of bandaids and stickytape that are currently keeping it all together.
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>>388523328

I can see why she's unmarried.
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>>388523328
> unmarried
what a fucking waste
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Does anyone else have this weird thing where all of your gear automatically repairs itself at completely random moments?
I'm just flying around doing some hunts when all my shit is insta-repaired out of the blue. Convenient as it may be, it's also weird as hell and I don't get why it started happening. I don't even have any crafters leveled past 10.
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Any suggestions for a good looking SCH weapon glamour?
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>>388523494
Stop using bots
Also holy saturation batman
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>>388523537
Wait, are the repairs a bot thing? It's true that they started happening right when I started using Minion.
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>>388523615
>being so lazy that you bot a casual gook catgirl simulator
Pretty pathetic desu
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>>388523615

>It's true that they started happening right when I started using Minion.

Well isn't that a fucking coincidence. Surely there is no relation at all.
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>>388523831
Hey I didn't know it was a feature. I'm not even sure how it can do it when I don't have crafters leveled.
But hey, i'll take it.
>>388523810
When you've got money to burn you drop 5 bucks so you can do shit other than running the boring 60-70 dungeons over and over.
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>>388521113
This is what happened to me ... Feels bad man, I really liked hanging out with those guys
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>>388523494
I understand that XIV's colors are a bit washed out, but holy fuck.
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>>388523524
Moogle weapons. Or Zodiac and Anima weapons.
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>>388523524

omnilex
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>>388523524
Do your Anima quests
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>>388523524
Moogle is the chad SCH choice.
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>>388524290
You mean hipster's choice
The Last Resort is for the true patrician
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>>388524167
>>388524180
>>388524198
>>388524290
I've never done those relic, zodiac, anima weapons. Does it take long?

Mogtome looks fun too
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>>388524435
Long as fuuuuuuuuuuuck
For anima longest parts are the unidentifiable stuff, then the light step after that.
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>>388519419
I miss Hildibrand so much.
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>>388523494
What the fuck is wrong with your colors? It looks like a shitty colorblind filter over the screen.
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>>388524435
>Does it take long?
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>>388524562
I don't like playing with a greyscale filter over the entire game.
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>>388524435
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>>388520823
Lily needs to be buffed
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>>388523328

watashi wa no pls marry me desu ne
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>>388524680
Which part?
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If you were given control, what race and/or job would you put in for the next expac?

I'd do Ivalice (FFXII style models) moogles and juggler class, all of the job quests involving a moogle juggler troupe in a travelling circus.
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>>388523615
It's enabled by default. Check Hacks.
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>>388525173
>what race
We have dragon girls, can't top something like this
>job
Classic jobs I want like jew or thief wouldn't work well now, so maybe beastmaster or oracle?
But I think next job will be gunblade one
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>>388524435
do you have 2 friends working on the zodiac as well? then its ok takes about 2 weeks

Anima is suffering at this point dont bother
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>>388525417
>actually believing they would ever put a gunblade class in FFXIV
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>>388523524
Midan book.
Or the Centurio seals one.
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>>388525727
We got unique animations with Nero in omega prequest
So possible
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>>388525807
Those were used before.
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>>388525173
I would rather take a break from new races, and spend the dev time on adding way more customization options for the existing ones. That would still sell a ton of fantasia, so it'd be fine.

For jobs, assuming a Garlemald expansion, I like the Chemist healer and Judge tank ideas thrown around in a few threads.
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>>388525750
>midan book

its hard enough to clear the relevant savage with pugs, nobody who actually can is gonna be able to clear the least nerfed savage fight from HW.
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>>388519419
>XIV is still the only playble mmo on the market
Made me log in to downvote
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>>388525173
Androids
Mime

Okay, I know Mime is impossible for an MMO: I'll instead take Geomancer as the next healer, borrowing less from the Final Fantasy staple of an earth elementalist- but as an oracle or exorcist that uses the principle of yin/yang and feng shui. eg. Creating a field around themselves consisting of concentric circle barriers and consuming each layer at a time to enfeeble/damage enemies or heal allies in the AoE.
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>>388525940
Yes because they did that with stormblood character creations
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>>388525807
>new
They are old as fuck, you just never paid attention to it.
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>>388525173
blue mage
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>>388525954
Name another
Blizzard trying to fix legion and actually doing great job, but I got tired of their small gamedesign mistakes
>Takes month to unlock island
>One of the last quests is find 10 chests, something that should be an introduction quest
>When you take it, you got phased and there 2 chests at most on island for you in any giving moment of time
And others mmo are just pure garbage right now
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>>388526101
Geomancy is somewhat a part of the Astrologian repertoire, according to their job quests in Stormblood.
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>>388525173
Cleric

a battle priest healer who can wear fucking plate armor that uses a flail or 1h hammer (maybe a shield)

I wouldn't care how it played as aesthetically it would be the best job in the game.
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>>388526525
Just go play WoW
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>>388526512
Okay, so they ripped off both Time Mage AND Geomancer to make AST.
Fuck it then. Just add Exorcist, go full weeb and give them skills featuring those Japanese paper charms, a chain of prayer beads for a weapon, and the ability to summon/invoke papercraft Shikigami.
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>>388521202
Gee, this guy certainly isn't an elitist.
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>>388526871
Surely this is ironic.
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>>388526525

Skyshrine

MUH NIGGUH
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>>388525173
I kinda selfishly want sage, but I know it would be pointless since it would bring nothing that a BLM or a WHM don't already do, and we have RDM. So, instead, BLU tank. I want a magic tank, maybe with a hammer or a scepter. Also a chemist healer for non-magic healing.

Not sure about races. Maybe nu mou or yuke. I'm the kind of idiot who only plays human races, so I don't really care about new races.
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>>388526926
Anyone got that picture of the jap priest doing the ceremony thing to a computer? All I can think of reading this post.
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>>388521983
>Learning party
>Half the party rage quits after first wipe
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>>388526926
Only if we could do a full Reimu cosplay
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>>388527541
It was a wipe on something that they don't need practice on.
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>dps is a RDM
>notice something odd and start paying attention to what they're doing
>only casts jolt II
>over and over and over again
>never does the melee combo
>at most uses the ogcd attacks and scatter for aoe
>otherwise only ever jolt II and impact
but why
Is this some kind of new blizzard wizzard rp thing
it was a shisui au ra too so I should have anticipated this but still
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>>388525173
Dancer. A fleetfooted healer/support who provide AoE buffs via melee combos (with a simple ranged combo to buff mages/ranged). They can dash to teammates and use primarily TP instead of MP.
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>>388527594
Well yeah, male AF would be the long/dark robe of a monk complete with the goofy hat; female would be a priestess outfit, maybe slap on a Kitsune mask for flair.

Limit Break would naturally be Akuryo Taisan.

>>388527206
The one with the miko? Wish I had it.
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[screams in darkness]
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>>388521202
THIS SO MUCH
Epic win my friend, take all my (You)s.
*claps slowly*
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>>388526298
I just quit XIV to play XI instead.
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Is there a 4.x guide for Summoner that isn't pure mathematical autism?
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>>388528548
Press buttons.
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>>388528202
>XI
>Aka one of the worst mmo ever made, game that joke of mmo community for years
lol
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what separates a good BLM from a bad BLM?
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>>388528548
No.
Literally every time you ask some jackass is going to link that fucking 20+ page piece of shit. Just press buttons and hope for the best.
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>>388528731
Who is the better Ice Mage.
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>>388528731
2k dps on the 310ilvl
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>>388528731
Big numbers.
Minimal movement while also taking minimal amount of damage from aoes.
A constant uninterrupted barrage of fire IVs in single target and a fireworks display in aoe.
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>>388521202
>game has better players for about 4-5 months until it finally shuts down due to losing 90% of the playerbase

good post
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>>388528548
Fucking this. That "guide" is wrong and is as you said pure autism.

Honestly the class doesn't even really need a guide.

Leave Ifrit on sic.
Garuda is too much trouble to be worth it unless literally every dps is a caster.
Keep Dots up.
DWT asap.
Ruin III always unless you drop to around 25% mp, then substitute Ruin I.
Saving Addle for a 160 pet potency wyrm wave is completely wasting the ability.

This is all you need to keep in mind. The job isn't even that hard you just need to be mindful of a few things and you'll be fine.
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>>388529565
It's certainly a little more than that... Sure we don't need 30 pages of autism, but we certainly don't need more garbo SMNs running around.
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Does Wildfire take turret damage into account or only my own?
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>>388529960
Only your own.

>>388529565
I'd like to try that when I get SMN to 70, not gonna raid with it, but would still like to see the numbers and all.
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>>388530085
So I should hit Hypercharge as soon as its ready? Gotcha.
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>>388530256
The only thing I know about MCH is that the turret damage is not counted for wildfire. That's all really. No idea when to pop hypercharge or not, hopefully someone else gives a better answer.
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Is elemental damage even a thing in this game?
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>>388530574
No because otherwise you wouldn't take certain classes for certain things, and most magic attacks are unaspected regardless.
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>>388529807
It's really not. Bad summoners don't even bother learning the job and constantly flub things like DoTless Festers, using Garuda in a melee group because of personal dps, forget rouse exists, use enkindle outside of rouse, use Ruin I because it's cheap, massively over prioritize ruins over anything else, flub DWT, summons Bahamut 2 seconds before phase change or invuln...

The problem is SMN is not idiot proof and idiots gravitate towards pet classes (huntards in wow). SMN unfortunately attracts the worst players so you're going to see the most bad players on it. The complication of the class can be overcome quickly by someone who has a fully functioning brain.
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>>388530085
That's the problem. Autism players use target dummies as the end all and came to the wrong conclusions. In actual fights the shit they came up with at the dummy doesn't flow or work and they end up wasting abilities that can help the raid like addle so they can get another precious wyrmwave which means fuckall in the long run.
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>>388530953
Should have clarified I was gonna use it in normal mode raids, and 24mans, but I agree with you that addle should be used for it's purpose and not for another wyrmwave. It physically pains me seeing an addle come up on Hali or something when I pug savage and Hali isn't doing D-Wave or won't when Addle is up for it's duration. Really drives me nuts. Same with the personal DPS > raidwide problem
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>>388530657
>has a fully functioning brain.

Uphill climb there with this playerbase
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>>388530574
It is, but it's not a thing of "BLM is good against weak-to-fire enemies".
You can stack elemental resistances, but you'd need to change resistance for specific encounters, at which point it's better to just pump raw damage and healing.
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>Leveling DRK in Havensward quests.
I love how i have done all MQ and now just comfy leveling.
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>>388529960
Your turret damage is taken into account with wildfire, ignore >>388530085

go do an opener with and without your turret if you dont believe me
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>>388532746
lad...
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>do leveling roulette on DRK
>get synced into Stone Vigil
>ok how bad could this b---
>no cooldowns
>no buttons
>no dark arts
>no aoe damage worth shit
>literally 2.0 PLD
Fuck you Yoshi
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Goddamn I'm so tired of getting Satasha for leveling roulette, is the exp bonus you get from it even worth the 20 minutes you're going to waste in there
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>>388523328

Didn't she write the DRK story and Coil?
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>>388524435

Ethica from the 69 Castrum dungeon is good. The butterfly flies around for a bit before settling.
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>>388530574
Only for bosses/enemies. For example, Sophia EX auto attacks deal lightning damage instead of physical. When she does her tank buster, she severely reduces the tanks lightning resistance so they take more damage from lightning based attacks.
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>>388533582
exp bonus is the only thing that matters in any leveling dungeons except ones that are on your level
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>>388532478
this is a boy isn't it?
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>>388533236
>battle log

do you gauge dps numbers by current threat too?
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>>388534170
>i cant read
dummy only got hit by rook and wildfire did zero damage
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>>388530657

I've seen "SMN is hard because you can miss fester and you'll drop an aethertrail" reasoning on here before that was changed in the recent patch. Most SMNs are whiny shitters who probably migrated over from 3.0 BRD or shitty SCHs who have no idea what they're doing. SMN itself isn't even bad but whoop, they get a rework of some sorts and probably going to get buffed to the point of shitting on BLM much like 3.0 SMN was.
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Haven't played in a while, is potd still the best way to level? Even 60-70?
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>>388534569
Only for DPS because queue times if you play solo.

Tanks and healers should stick to roulettes and highest level dungeon
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6wj9b1/patch_41_new_information_from_game_watch_famitsu/

>Sudo Kenji, the designer for the upcoming Beyond Savage mode, mumbles alot of unsettling words during the planning stage, and it seems that the scale is going to be rather epic (have to elaborate on this one: it's more on the scale of dreadful, terrifying and breathless, but again, since we don't know how it's like yet..."epic" is more suitable of a word until the patch is released and live).
>The difficulty is roughly about the same as The Second Coil of Bahamut Savage. (In YoshiP's words: 侵攻編零式ぐらいだと思っておいてください。"Please think of the difficulty to be somewhere around Second Coil Savage")
>Return to Ivalice will contain a whooping load of spoilers, and they will only introduce parts of it.
>Royal Menagerie Extreme confirmed
>They are starting to focus in doing something about (the core system of) Glamours
>On Magnai, whether he will appear in the future is uncertain, though they have ideas and consideration, but it's not confirmed.
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>>388523494
jesus christ it looked like a different game for a second
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>>388521202
>1. Add an in-game parser. "Low damage" is added to the list of duty finder infringements meriting a votekick, and it doesn't require waiting 10 minutes or whatever.
Lol, keep dreaming.
They don't want to put anything that would make the players feel bad about their gameplay.
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>>388527206
>>388527940
Here lads
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>>388519419
Lyse and her Rebel scum to be BTFO for the next 3-4 patches.
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>need to get a Heated Slug Shot proc up for my next wildfire
>can't use either reload since I need them mid-WF
>start fishing for procs
>takes 6 fucking shots to finally proc
>by that point hot shot dies during WF and it gets gimped
MCH is suffering
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>>388535756
Please don't bully newbies.
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>>388536141
>Being a legitimate retard is being a "newbie" now
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>>388536272
yep, that's the ffxiv community for you
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>Dreamed about losing my chance of getting a house in Shirogane
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>>388536272
Not knowing mechanics is being a newbie.
Not knowing how important gear is is being a newbie.
Not knowing that glamming exists is being a newbie.
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>>388536501
You're a genuine retard.
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>>388536407
>dreamed about getting hot spring plot and reselling it x10
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Is mummy minion expensive?
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>>388536501
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>>388536723
>>388536645

Define what is means to be a newbie.
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>>388536501
This is not an excuse. "Recommended Gear" would have shoved anything onto it, and quest rewards and hell, even end of dungeons give you guaranteed gear now.
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>realized I can pop TBN on earthquake and tentacles in o2n
100th percentile here I come
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>>388521983
>fresh learning party
>half of the party can't comprehend the first swap mechanic after seven wipes
Help
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>>388536907
He wanted to wear the hat, but he didn't know glamming existed. That's a newbie mistake and completely understandable.
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>>388537038
read the picture again
'Why does that matter' after 'you unlock glamour at level 50'
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>>388536907
Is the "Recommended Gear" button even talked about in the help section of the game?
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>>388537038
>Nowhere does it say he doesn't know about glamour
>He literally pulled a version of "you don't pay my sub"
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Why do tanks attract the lowest skilled players?
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>>388536824
Not knowing that gear and stats are important are the mark of a complete retard who's apparently playing their first video game ever.
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>>388537123
>Why does that matter

Did you know? People tend to get defensive when you criticize them. There's ways to get around that if you're not completely socially awkward, or genuinely autistic.
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>>388537038
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>>388537264
>People tend to get defensive when you criticize them
Maybe if you're an insecure fuck with the mental age of a 12 year old.
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>>388537140
Only Lala or Roegady tanks are pro.
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>>388537213
>retard
I find the people who overuse this word are exactly this word. Continue on with your sperg out though.
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>>388537339
>mental age of a 12 year old
Adults do it too. You're doing it now.
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>>388537442
>no u
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>>388536986
You're a tank, you can eat everything in normal mode. I saw a PLD in there finish the fight with 9 stacks of vulnerability.
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>>388537468
Nice projecting
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>>388536501
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>>388537331
That only shows up when you complete the glamour quest. Which is understandable because Mor Dhona is filled to the fucking brim with quests that unlock things so it's easy to miss if you don't know about it already.
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>>388537573
>projecting
I dont think that word means what you think it means. That's criticism. It bothers you which is why you're getting defensive about it.
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>>388537386

nah
roegadyn tanks tend to only play the job to be BIG AND MANLY and usually suck at actually tanking

and lalafells are just shit at everything, last lala tank i had couldn't be bothered to full eclipse even on 4+ mobs and used requiescat w/ fight or flight instead of using it to spam holy spirit

actually i'm pretty sure they didn't know holy spirit existed
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>>388537725
You must play on Aether or Chaos because every lalafell tank on JP servers are the MVP
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>>388537826
That's because majority of hardcore players on JP are lalas so statistically better players are gonna be lalas. On NA/EU the majority are cats and lizards so that's who the best players are gonna be among just by probability.
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>SMN plays like a bad caster
>SCH plays like a bad healer

What is wrong with the Arcanist class that spectacularly fucked both jobs associated with it?

Is it the pets requiring micro management to be marginally useful? Why are they even real pets and not like the MCH turrets? Why is everything in this godawful job scheme tether happy, even Bahamut is invisible tethered to the SMN. And poor SCH is a poor/stupid mans Noct AST and will never be anything but a third choice secondary healer.

Just completely remake everything ARC touched.
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>>388538131
>And poor SCH is a poor/stupid mans Noct AST
You got that in reverse bucko
SCH was the OG shield healer with actual mechanics to support the playstyle and it wasn't until Yoshi babyraged that nobody liked his new and original darling class that they kneejerked AST into relevancy with stupid potency buffs.
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>>388538131
Noct ast really only has an edge in v4s, otherwise id rather heal with a sch every time. this "sch is bad" meme kinda stinks because you can tell its coming from the point of view of a dps who only cares about balance cards or something and doesnt actually play healer roles
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>>388535798

SMN will probably beat BLM if its buffed again like they planned they would, it's already strong now. SCH is still meta.
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>>388537686
What is there for me to get defensive about? I'm pointing out how retarded you are for defending a player who has no capability to read or ask questions about the game and doesn't want to learn. The players are fighting the final boss in The Vault which is level 57 while glamours are level 50, so there's no excuse to not have unlocked them or know how they work.
And saying "nuh uh ur wrong" isn't valid criticism you fucking retard. You have as much depth as an 8 year old arguing over economics. The only thing annoying me and making me type all this out now is your shitty attempts at smug mental gymnastics.
Go fuck yourself, and that retarded player needs to uninstall the game.
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>>388538414
From what I've heard so far, SMN damage is pretty good. It's just that the job isn't """fun""" and doesn't """feel good""" to play.
Meanwhile BLM is the best fucking thing ever.
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I hate having to micro this stupid Eos fairy. It burns cooldowns the moment they come back so sic is completely out of the question. I honestly would just rather the abilities be changed or nerfed so hard that sic is viable. SCH already has enough multi-tasking as is.
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>>388538764
You just treat her cooldowns as your own
Don't try to micro Embrace that shit doesn't work
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>>388538697
>What is there for me to get defensive about? I'm pointing out how retarded you are for defending a player who has no capability to read or ask questions about the game and doesn't want to learn. The players are fighting the final boss in The Vault which is level 57 while glamours are level 50, so there's no excuse to not have unlocked them or know how they work.
>And saying "nuh uh ur wrong" isn't valid criticism you fucking retard. You have as much depth as an 8 year old arguing over economics. The only thing annoying me and making me type all this out now is your shitty attempts at smug mental gymnastics.
>Go fuck yourself, and that retarded player needs to uninstall the game.

You typed all this shit out and you want to tell me you aren't getting defensive

lel
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what's the worst reason to disband a static?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcr9u-Vt-Ww
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When will the server come back on est time?
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>>388538927
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>>388520494
>>388520437
Reminder that Alisaie's personal guards are all Roegadyn males.
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>>388539040
>that beta scrawny sounding guy saying nigga at the end
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>>388539040
Was it autism?
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>>388539109
You can claim bait all you want kiddo. Your panties are in a wad and you are just looking for something to argue about. Keep replying though. I'm sure it will make you feel better somehow.
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>>388539348
well it looked like they were just trying to do a weekly clear and the dark knight wanted to reset because he used more than one power slash
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>>388539040
not disband, but still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH8tLmG0TRY
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>>388539393
I just want you to explain why it's okay for that player to not know anything about glamours despite being 7 levels and 70% of an expansion past the point where glamours are unlocked. You've forgotten about your argument long ago and are just slinging ad hominem.
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>>388519419
>tfw stormblood has made the games unplayable shit
>fc is completely dead now
Will 4.1 finally make this shit fun again?
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Reminder
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>>388539634
Where do roes lie?
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>>388539040
i dont understand whats going on, did the ninja have a meltdown?
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>>388539604
>slinging ad hominem
omg you are so smart! what's it like to be so superior to everyone?
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>>388539604
he could be a level booster
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>>388539728
top drake if roe healer
bottom drake if roe tank
pic related drake if roe dps
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>>388539743
DRK was having a bitch fit because of MUH PARSE
NIN had enough of that bitch's whining and went ahead to leave

A modern drama in 2 acts.

They're all really good players they just lack any kind of social reason.
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>>388539760
Feels pretty good mang
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>>388539786
Dude why bother replying seriously to that guy? You know he's just going to argue back some nonsensical bullshit and sperg out if you even hint that some random stranger may not think or behave like he does. People like him are not for engaging in discussion with.
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everyday my hatred for catfags grow deeper.
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>>388540053
>They're all really good players they just lack any kind of social reason.
which is why i'll stick to raiding with blue percentile players that arent crippling autistic
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>>388538698

It's 3.0 BRD all over again. They want 3.0 SMN back because it was fun aka. easy. They have to line up cds now, hore shit. No other class has ever had to do this.
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>>388539634
Snowflake the post
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>>388539970
is that a yes or a no
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>>388540190
>more ad hominem
>not a single argument to be found
Keep it comin' buddy, i'm sure you'll win someday
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>>388539604
The glamour quest is in Mor Dhona. When you first reach Mor Dhona, the minimap is littered with these icons. At least 20 of these little shits, and most of them are dungeons and the rest are crafting ones. So after looking at a few in the bar, it's safe to assume that these are just optional content that you can do later. So instead of doing hours upon hours of side content, you decide to press on with the story (especially HW, since it's pretty good).
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>One of the people saying SAM should be a tank prior to SB launching
>SAM revealed as a dps
>Buttmad as fuck
>Unlock it and RDM day 1 just to get it out of the way
>Fall in love instantly
>Main it now

I feel so awful.
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>>388540252
Pretending that SB SMN isn't completely at odds with its own design is disingenuous. Yeah you can make it work but when literally every other job is easier to play why would you even bother
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>>388540423
does it feel worse knowing nobody cares
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>>388540323
yes
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>>388540423
SAM should have been shogun tank
RDM stays how it is now
They introduce Dancer as new healer
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>>388539634
>he's so new he cares about comms
>he doesn't have more than 10k
>probably still awkwardly sits around after a duty even if there's no loot
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>making decent progress on O3S despite the fact that we could only schedule one raid per week for 3 weeks straight
>even hit 6% enrage courtesy of the 3k dps NIN
>the tank who obstructed us the most by never being available quits because he says the game he plays for 4 hours per week is boring
>takes like 3 people with him
>entire static disbands
Just fucking end it all desu. This shit isnt worth the trouble
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>>388540984
This tier is perfectly puggable. You will experience a lot more wipes and useless parties, yes, but by not being bound to an obligation and a set time, you have no limit on just doing the fight.
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>>388541189
No it isn't, not on Chaos
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>>388540410
So the reason for not knowing about it is that he just skipped a shitton of optional content without asking about any of it? He's finally reached some form of "endgame" content (at least in his eyes) and has absolutely no interest in experimenting with any of it?
It's also worth mentioning that you still have to go through the entirety of the 2.x quests, which amount in the hundreds, are arguably one of the slowest parts of the game. I don't know a single player who hasn't stopped and fiddled with a bunch of sidequests while slow-burning through all the boring MSQs.
Does the player have an FC who could explain things to him? Has anybody else stopped and explained what he was doing wrong during the multiple 50+ quests he's done in that condition?
The only explanation I can think of is that he just bruteforced the MSQ while ignoring literally all side-content in a fucking MMORPG, never joined an FC that had any interest in helping newbies, doesn't have any in-game friends who are willing to explain the game's mechanics, and ignored every single bit of advice given to him by players in various dungeons.
With all that in consideration I can probably assume that at best, this just isn't the game for him, and at worst, he really is just completely retarded.
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>>388535682
u r ma bro
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>>388541314
Why don't you help him?
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I already have BRD to 70, and I got DRK at 66. Just recently though, I have discovered NIN and everybody is telling me to main that and drop BRD. Give me some NIN tips /v/
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Shit, Minor Arcana is a lot better than I first though.
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>>388541493
fuck that
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>>388540380
>why it's okay for that player to not know anything about glamours despite being 7 levels and 70% of an expansion past the point where glamours are unlocked

whatever I'm bored so I'll humor you, if anything to watch you sperg out and prove me right.

Do you think it's impossible that the guy missed the quest?
Do you think it's impossible the guy used a level booster?
Maybe the guy is new to MMOs and joined with a friend who doesn't teach them shit. You think that might have happened?
Maybe the guy was really just trolling for reactions. You wouldn't know about that would you?
Maybe, just maybe, he thought there was a hidden effect no one was telling him about. Maybe not but who can say.

So what if the guy had a bad day. He logs on to get a relaxing hour (maybe?) in on a game he's starting to enjoy and someone shows up to bust his nuts over a fucking hat. He gets defensive. Cue your dumbass claiming he's a "retard" for 4chan gold or something I dunno. And that's your only argument because you can't consider any other possibility, because your posts read like someone who feels they are intellectually superior even though they're just a little shit hiding behind anonymity on an image board and you got this hole in your life you're trying to fill. I dunno. Maybe you're just a genuine troll. None of which makes you superior to anything but maybe the bag boy with downs syndrome at the local grocery store. But hey whatever makes you feel special I guess.
You wanted an argument there you go bud. You refuse to see past your own narrow concept of how a game meant to be played by hundreds of thousands of people should be played and you resort to insults as a way of getting defensive, then go on to claim you aren't getting defensive like it wasn't obvious, then claim intellectual superiority with nothing but insults to back it up.
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>>388537038
Do you know how long you have to play and how high a level you have to be to get the stupid hat?
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>>388541527
Hope you have low enough ping to play it properly.
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>>388541612
>complains about problem
>refueses to help fix problem

fucking millenials
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>>388541682
It's easy to miss the glamour quest if you don't know about it.
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>>388541680
>>388540410
It was a postmoogle cap. A cap rewarded at the end of a long ass quest chain. Fucking hell, I don't even KNOW where the quest chain starts for it.
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I haven't played since stormblood launch, what class is actually fun now? I'll probably just be doing casual shit, is mch fun?
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>>388541680
>bust his nuts
The dialogue was literally "Do you know this gear you're wearing is bad?" "I do" "Then why are you wearing it?" If even a suggestion that you're doing something wrong is enough to make you sweat and lash back out (which that guy didn't, at least not on the screenshot, to his credit, though he's still a dumbfuck) then maybe you need qualified help.

>So what if the guy had a bad day. He logs on to get a relaxing hour (maybe?) in on a game he's starting to enjoy
Yeah maybe others had a bad day too and want to relax and this one dipshit shows up and plays like crap just because he wants to. This is a multiplayer coop game and the sooner people start realizing that the better. Respect the time and effort of your peers. It's not such a foreign concept.

We can only guess what other mistakes that newbie did in the run (probably a lot). Trust me, there's a huge difference between a new player and a complete brick for brains.
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>>388542017
It starts at level 50, smack dab in the middle of Limsa. Not hard to miss.
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>>388541680
>Do you think it's impossible that the guy missed the quest?
Why is he playing an MMO, which most play for the hours of content, just to skip all of it?
>Do you think it's impossible the guy used a level booster?
Then this is just evidence that level boosters are cancer filling the game with players who have no clue what they're doing.
>Maybe the guy is new to MMOs and joined with a friend who doesn't teach them shit. You think that might have happened?
For one, that friend is an asshole for not helping his friend get into the game. Two, I have a hard time believing that no other player has stopped to explain things to him.
>Maybe the guy was really just trolling for reactions
"I was just pretending to be retarded!!"
>Maybe, just maybe, he thought there was a hidden effect no one was telling him about.
You're really fucking reaching here bub. The game tell you about all added effects.

The rest of your post is just pure, concentrated ad hominem. You wasted two paragraphs on a non-argument, good job.
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>>388519419
A MCH that isn't a boring 3 button spamfest. So pretty much never.
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>>388521202
>how to fucking kill an mmo: the post
i'd rather group up with retards than have nobody to group up with at all
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>>388521202
>4. If you can't get within 10% of killing the dummy's HP you're banned from trying it again for 24 hours.
That's legit retarded. It doesn't even make sense in a retard "elitist" way.
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>>388542186
>ad hominem
Dude you don't really know what this means do you. If you did you'd realize your argument is also ad hominem. I'm aware this argument is too.

Like you can throw out buzzwords like "non-argument" and "ad hominem" all day but it doesn't change anything that you are incapable of imagining other people's point of view, which means you call anyone who doesn't think or behave like you a retard, meaning you could very well be completely in the wrong for calling out the player in question as a "retard" when its totally possible something else was going on. You won't admit that of course because you think you're hot shit.

Clear enough for you?
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>>388542010
No, my point is you have to go through a shitton of quests to get the hat, and you have to hit at least level 50 to do it. Anyone wearing that hat should at the very least know what glamors and ilvl are.
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RDM is fun
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>>388542971
You're fucking retard and no amount of "no u" is going to change that.
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>>388540219
>Tfdw in Lala, Roes only FC.
No drama, no bullshit just fun and ilevels.
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>>388543063
>Anyone wearing that hat should at the very least know what glamors and ilvl are.
How do you come up with that logic? That questline has nothing to do with glamours. They don't interconnect at any point.
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Are the proc based casters/ranged more fun or are the rotational melee more fun?
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>>388543279
>You're fucking retard and no amount of "no u" is going to change that.

Ad-hominem, non-argument
go back to /pol/
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>>388543447
Nice argument pickle rick. Go back to your reddit shithole.
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>>388543424
That's subjective to your own tastes. Girls and gay guys will tell you healing and ranged dps is fun while straight guys tell you tanking and melee dps is better.
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delete pig suit and metallic dyes
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>>388542971
>Dude you don't really know what this means do you
ad ho·mi·nem
adverb & adjective
1. (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

No shit I know what it means. And no shit I know i'm doing it too, and I don't give a shit. Doesn't change the fact that you're spending 60% of every post not even trying to make an argument and just going "hurr ur dumb and a loser lol"

I'm exploring every possible reason I can think of for that player to not understand the game at level 57 or higher and the only solution I can come up with is that he's outright dumb or he really just doesn't understand MMOs. Which is fine, they're not for everybody, but it doesn't change the fact that he shouldn't be playing them, is only worsening the experience of the players who have to run dungeons with him, and clearly refuses to learn how the game works since players are ACTIVELY trying to teach him.
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>>388543582
cuck
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>>388543794
Fuck off spic
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>>388543582
>FFXIV is literally Pickle Rick the mMO xDD
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>>388543345
It's got nothing to do with the quest, but the amount of time played in order to get that hat. Even if he jump pot'd and never read a single thing that came up, through trial and error going through all those postmoogle quests, he should have figured out what glamour and ilvl were. If he didn't, he is as the other Anon stated, genuinely mentally handicapped.
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>>388543858
Why don't you just admit you want me to pound your boipussy while you call me daddy?
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>>388543647
I'm straight and I like melee dps and BLM
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>>388543983
FFXIV players everybody.
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>>388543992
BLM is the only heterosexual ranged dps.
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>>388543710
Fuck you metallic silver is great for getting armor pieces from different sets to match up properly.
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>>388543975
>he should have figured out what glamour
How? There is literally nothing in the game that points you towards glamour. I played through the story for the first time recently and there is absolutely nothing in the game that tells you what glamour is, or where to find it.
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>>388523952
>paying money to not play the game
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>>388544073
>what is MCH
I mean for fucks sake anon it doesn't get much more hetero than sticking your gun between your legs and spraying flames all over the enemey
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>>388544062
Well it is your favorite game after all
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>>388544234
>spraying flames
yeah 2 seconds every minute sure is fun
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>>388544062
Yeah your right. The only question is why a WoW faggot like yourself is here?
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>>388543647
>like both melee and BRD
hm
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>>388544329
Yeah its kind of a shitty ability but at least it looks neat.
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>>388525173
Foebreaker

Tank focused on buffs/debuffs. It uses a big honkin' mace and a shield and has access to the various Break abilities. For the gameplay flow, I'd envision it being centered around juggling combos that apply defense debuffs on the enemy. It might be neat to also give it a stance system similar to Monk that changes the secondary effects of its attacks, but you have to manually shift stances every few seconds instead of it automatically changing on attacks, as well as having the normal Tank/DPS stance the other tanks have.

It'd probably need to have lower DPS output than the other tanks to make up for how god-like defense debuffs are in this game.
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>>388521202
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>>388543710
Pig suit is the best on lalas. Just the suit, don't wear the helmet.
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>>388544168
Its stated everywhere in the game, from the msq to flavour text. Hell, there's even a levequest plate dedicated to eradicating monsters using glamour.
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Which Tank Is Best Tank?
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FFXIV is just as trash as all the other MMOs on the market.

Logged in a few days ago

>Look at the screen for a few minutes and log out.

It's fucking unbearable.
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>>388544563
>Tank
>Compares DPS
Sorry son but tanking isn't for you t i just spam overpower and cds.
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>>388544168
>hmmm I wonder why this player has super cool glowing gear at my lower level, maybe I should ask somebody how it works
>hmm I wonder why this new piece of gear has zero stats but was given to me at level 50, that doesn't seem quite right, surely there must be a way to wear it on my character without losing stats
Not to mention glamour is a thing in-universe and is mentioned multiple times throughout the story, but he likely skipped everything anyway so it's not like he'd know. Not that skipping everything in the game excuses his lack of knowledge, of course.

>>388544409
Nigga what, Flamethrower is great for boosting your heat to 50+ and it's practically mandatory for a strong opener.
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>>388544409
>kind of shitty but at least looks neat
you just summed up MCH
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>>388544168
Alright man, I'm done. I can only think of three possible reasons you're being this obtuse, and I hope it's the last one. If not, may God have mercy on people you party with.

1. You are the person being mocked. If this is the case, you need to calm down and stop taking it so personally. And maybe learn to read shit before getting your parties wiped.
2. You identify with the mentally handicapped moogle hat guy and feel personally insulted because their experience was similar to your own. In which case, see 1 and calm down.
3. You are baiting. In which case, good job on all the (You)s and thanks for derailing an otherwise decent thread, I hope the joy of it is worth being as cancerous as xivg posters.
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>>388544628
Yeah go back to WoW take some selfies xDDd
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>>388544498
thats because it just looks like their normal body but thicker
>>388544563
Pretty sure they're all in a good spot right now, the only real issue is PLD can do comparable damage to WAR and DRK and put in no where near the same amount of effort. PLD DPS rotation is fucking brain dead but still manages to keep pace with the stupid bullshit WAR has to align to maximize theirs
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>>388544703
nigga what, nothing you said makes it any less shitty
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>>388535756
I had a tank running Dzemael Darkhold without gloves the other day

we did fine
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>>388544563

WAR in Defiance with Tenacity and Determination melds spamming Storm Path and Inner Beast using healing potions and all defensive CDs
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>>388544628
[Your favorite video game] is just as trash as all the other [Your favorite video game genre] on the market.

Booted up the game a few days ago

>Look at the screen for a few minutes and quit the application

It's fucking unbearable.
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>>388521202
>>388544440
When did it go so wrong?
Nobody is this autistic about a number in even more skill based games
When did everything go so wrong?
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>>388544883
That's a different story than The Vault
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>>388544563
I like DRK the best, managing MP and the blood meter are fun and standing in aoes to trigger TBN is always awesome
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>>388527945
what plugin is this, been wondering where to find this?
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Please raise and keep the tome cap at 900. With 450 I don't even have to log in each day to effortlessly cap but it still takes so goddamn long that the next tier will appear by the time I can start gearing my tank and healer jobs.
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>>388544854
>But thicker
That's the point. We need more thicc lalas.
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>>388545093
>lalas have either the largest dick known to hydaelyn or their women have magic vaginas
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>>388544916
In skill based games numbers are usually the least important. It's all about reaction time.

In mmos, it's all about gear and numbers. You could be the best raider or pvp player in the world but you will still die to enemies if you dare fight them naked.
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>>388544916
Its only a minority of players who care about parses.
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>>388545243

>lalas have either the largest dick known to hydaelyn

I think I'd laugh harder at a lalafell with a huge cock than one with an appropriately sized one. It'd look like nailing a cucumber to a pumpkin.
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Why the fuck do I need a light party to advance to the next phase of production in the company workshop? My FC is like me and two irl friends who barely play.
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>>388545243
wouldnt they have magic vaginas in both cases?
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>>388545243
It's called a company workshop. You need company to progress. That's really naive to believe that you can get endgame stuff done in a MMO by yourself.
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>>388545326
>parse
>stressed the fuck out over gearing
>one day mouse over one of my percentiles
>6000 uploads
>apparently i'm competing against 6000 other players
>this is 0.0005% of the playerbase
Don't know why I even joined the autism train in the first place. Not that I would even show the numbers to my potential static employers or anything
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>>388519836
You're overreacting, as many SMN players are. What, you want a mindless melee dps rotation? Go play a melee dps. You want no cost death recovery? Go play pretty much any other job. The only thing I would add to SMN is that obey results in more dps instead of sic being better.
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>>388545770
For
>>388545649
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>>388545770
I mean, yeah, my lalafell fc leader is the "company workshop" but that's not really what we're talking about.
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>>388545649

Because FC projects are supposed to be large scale things, not some pet project for a single autismo.

Just put up a PF for some crafters to sit around.
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>>388545770
I understand I would eventually need a light/full party for the exploratory missions. I was just not expecting I would need one just to get to the next phase of a project.
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Does anyone have a guide for MNK 70?
Do I safe up RoF for Brotherhood?
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Parsing and aiming for top parses has to be the most retarded carrot on a stick way to keep playing the game. Reminder that the difference between the #1 and #3 top parses are all boiled down to RNG luck with crits, direct hits, and balance/damage formula ranges.
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>>388545858
>Go play pretty much any other job.
SMN summed up in a sentence.
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>>388528548
Aetherflow on CD (this is what you lined up with party buffs, not DWT)
Bahamut every other aetherflow for 3x fester on wrymwave
Use DWT to reset your dots. Put shadowflare inside DWT.
You only need to hard cast your dots about once every 2 minutes if you're doing it right
Ifrit on sic is fine as long as radiant shield is up with party buffs.
Look up Eirene Snows opener, it's good.

That's really it
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>Be leader of a respected crafting FC
>we mainly do what we do for profit
>two new players join one day, will call them b1 and b2
>they're both friends, b1 is highly ambitious, maybe too ambitious
>think whatever maybe he'll do good for the FC
>show both of them how we do things and get them started, business is still good
>major patch comes out, one day find out b1 made a proposal to another FC whose leader I know is pretty questionable
>contents are way beyond our limits
>b1 and b2 assure me we can do it
>go along with it for the time being
>one day I find b1 hitting on my EB
>tell him kindly to stop, though inside my patience with him was running thin
>he pushes me over the edge, I tilt, still trying to keep my cool
>take EB with me so we can craft some more items for that FC
>use connections to try and fuck him over, he finds out
>try to make it up to him, but b2 at the request of b1 starts going around telling everyone what I did
>people start leaving left and right
>go to collect things from my FC chest, only to find it's been emptied by EB
>transfer to another world while b1 made his own FC
>later on find out drama between the FC he made a deal with and his own exploded, causing everyone to disband

K-karma's a bitch, right guys?
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>>388546262
Explain the emptied by EB. Emptied for you, or emptied to take from you? I'm assuming the latter since you said you transferred but didn't mention transferring with your EB.
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>>388546262
>Crafting autism
wew lad, I sure am glad I can just get one of my FC's crafters to synth something for me if I need it, rather than deal with people like you and yours.
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>>388546262
>Skipping the part where B1 NTR'd your EB
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>>388546262
>B1 NTR'd you so hard you transferred worlds
What a legend.
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>>388546262
Crafting FCs exist? Why? If people want shit crafted they usually go to 1 person, not a whole FC.
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>4.1 launches
>there's a new duty titled "Super Savage" but there's no banner, no description, nothing
>join a PF party for it
>finishes loading
>it's a modern day looking interior of a building
>wtf
>appears to be a dungeon with trash pulls and not an arena, good
>trash mobs are all japanese jobs like ninja, samurai and onmyoji
>get to the boss room
>circular room with big SQUARE ENIX logo on the ground
>???????????????
>camera cuts to the "boss"
>it's Yoshida
>Magic Hammers the main tank and puts him at 0 TP
>blows up the BLM just as he puts down Ley lines
>"RESPECT THE CONTENT!"
>tank shrieks for a Goad
>"what is god" says the DRG
>we struggle for 12 minutes thanks to the RDM's crutch raises
>Yoshida jumps to the center and makes 23 clones of himself around the arena using secret japanese technique
>all of them start channeling a gaze attack
>there's no safe area to face, we all die to enrage
>"thank you... for looking forward to it"
>screen fades to black
ok
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>>388546262

I don't believe this story, because there are no 'respected crafting FC'
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Why is item soulbound to me when i loot it?
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>>388547353
I think you thought this would be funnier than it is.
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>>388547514
it's just pent up frustration from NOT knowing what super savage is
i'm glad that picture is still going around
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>>388547681
it's an even harder fight for people who have cleared O4S

probably Ozma
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>>388546262
>be leader of FC with only me and my girlfriend
>virtually no drama at all
>comfy house decorating and gardening
>all the benefits of an FC, but don't have to deal with any of this shit
>watched an entire generation of FCs come to life and die months later, all due to the same petty faggotry
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Good NA server that's not filled up with ERP cats?
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>>388528731
Do they take advantage of their teleports, remember transpose after 60, and makes use of manaward in order to soak damage without needed to move?

If so thats an at least decent BLM
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>>388548136
>login to find she's bribing the members with erp and naked pics
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>>388548150
>remember transpose
>press it in an emergency
>dps goes to shit anyway
Fuck.
That skill's probably only good for dungeon pulls
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>>388548214
>only me and my girlfriend
>bribing the members with erp and naked pics
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How much /ss/ do I need to hit 5k dps as BLM?
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>>388548145
A server filled with ERP lizards.
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>>388548145
Exodus
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>>388546024
Yeah, they both have 90 second cooldowns and using RoF allows you to double weave when it's active, as you'll likely be spamming forbidden chakra every 5 seconds.

Does anyone know it if it's worth using tornado kick at the end of a RoF/IR rotation when PB is off CD?
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>>388546024
Do this. Second potion symbol is where you use regular potions, first potion symbol is where you use the diluted potions that have doubled duration.
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>>388524516
Did you forget about Umbrites? It's like over 7k poetics just for those not to mention sand which is a bitch if you don't have a crafter.
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>>388548520
well did she give you erp and naked pics?
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>>388549184
of course, but there is no bribe there
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What class should I play if I really enjoy RDM but find it way too simple and easy
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>>388544916
It's precisely because the game is so easy that people go full autismo over numbers - it's the only way for them to distinguish people.
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>tfw got a gf because of this game
i believe you can do it too, bros
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>>388549587
BLM
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This is my opener on XIV with at iLV320 with materia in SKS and DH.

Any good?
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>>388549587
>>388549676

This describes my FFXI career perfectly. Odd how it's also true for FFXIV considering they are completely different games.
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>>388549729
As what job?
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>>388549102
>>388548737

Alright, thanks fellas.
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>>388549947
SAM
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>>388535798
Just suck it up and do 123 cd cd or something if you have to go into wildfire without procs - its better than delaying it.
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>>388550027
Also keep in mind that unless you know it's going to get clipped by a phase transition you should always save Brotherhood/RoF to use immediately before demolish after a dragon kick and twin snakes.
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>>388550034
Something is probably wrong, I was about that high as MNK at that ilevel.
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>>388550174
IDK senpai.

Most of my 320 gear is the paid for gear.
With SKS stuff and DH
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>>388550304
You should prioritize DH over SS. What opener are you using, 1 sen or 3 sen?
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>>388550386
3 sen.

Nah SAM that was in my FC that was in the top 3 fflogs for EX Susano and the other one and Omega Savage said SKS is much more better that just DH.
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>>388550474
nah man, DH is numerically superior to SS once you get SS above 1300.
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>>388550474
it's SS until comfortable > DH > DET > CRT

SAM doesn't exactly have a bursty opener. I generate less enmity than BRDs and DRGs (even the occasionally good MCH) during the opener all the time until I eventually overtake them
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>>388548530
I'd like to know this too
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>>388550117
Gotcha
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Is SAM easier than MNK?
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>>388550883
Yes
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>>388548430
I mean that and heavy movement, but yeah... better then just letting your stance just drop though
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>"Hey healer is in need for a leveling daily, I could use the cluste-"
>level 55 tank in 50 gear, NQ. That's right not even poetics gear, level 50 RQ gear
>Barely have time to toss out holies
>Wonder why things are going so slow
>Turn on ACT after 10 minutes in there
>MFW

They weren't even jump potion retards. Just regular ones.
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>>388550926
How much easier?
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>>388551180
>sam
>rdm
How? Those jobs are literally overpowered in leveling content due to their abilities being designed after the big prune. Shit rdm can toss out 300potency every gcd in fucking satasha while other jobs are still spamming 150potency combo starters.
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>>388550883
Depends on the fight.
>trying to keep track of RoF timings in O1S
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>>388526926
The worst thing FFXIV ever did is give Astros cards and MCH guns. We will never have COR.

Why live
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>>388552094
How is this hard, you just hit them on cooldown
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>>388552390
>hit it on cooldown
>Classical Elements happens
>lose 3 GCDs to sliding
Nice job fucko
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Can someone red pill me on this game? I tried the trial twice and it seems like shit, and youtube videos look horrible.
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>>388539040
Aren't these like the best players in the world?
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>>388552542
it's super gay don't play it
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Would pure pet job work in this game?
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>>388540053
You meant a modern drama in 2 ACTs right
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playing FFXI made me realize what casual WoW-clone trash this game really is

get Windower 4 and play FFXI in 4k 120FPS on any shitty graphics card and buy the full game with every xpac on Steam for $9.99 (on sale until the 31st), we're all on Asura
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>>388552882
FFXI and XIV are literally the same game, clones of the MMOs of their time designed to waste your money and nothing else
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>>388553051
The difference is that xiv is loved by everyone while xi was a community joke for years
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>>388552007

I have no idea. But at the poison boss, the SAM kept running into the poison clouds. Got 6 stacks of it before they died like a bitch.
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>>388553321
Both are shunned by FF fans, although I think FF fans are too busy playing shitty mobage to care now.
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>>388552007
>>388553352
I don't know about RDM but SAM get actually good only lvl 62
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>>388547353
>"thank you... for looking forward to it"
I laughed.
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>>388521202
Go back to Gilgamesh.
>>
The real question is if they can actually make content that doesn't get boring after 3 weeks
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>>388544854
>everything you said about PLD is true
>there won't be any major PLD changes until at least 5.0
>stuck with a boring rotation
>stuck with a useless resource bar
>stuck with all the mouthbreathers flocking to the new OP tank class
>stuck with the retards who will blindly defend it because "dude my 1 min cd 6 spell cleave lmao"
And I can't say any of this without sounding ungrateful for all the improvements SB gave us. Feels sad man.
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>>388552542
High level rotations can get pretty complex and there's a lot to watch out for, but some people don't like the 2.5sec global cooldown and there tends to be "more of the same".
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>>388539040
>Roxa
I saw this autist on my server botting ephemeral nodes as a group of 3 characters all with "Roxa" in the name. Always felt uneasy when I see him because 1) it's three characters with the same name, creepy as shit 2) weeb name 3) the free company tag saying "owo"
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>>388544916
WoW players are worse than this.
Actually this is pretty tame because you can get banned for speaking about numbers.
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>>388552479
>losing gcds to sliding
Just shoulder tackle you dweeb, on cooldown it should come up on inside/outside fires, safe spot ice (which you can shoulder tackle) and then inside outside fires again
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>>388554336
You're still losing GCds or positionals at which point it's better to wait 10 seconds to use it.
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>>388544916
Because numbers are all you have to look at in this game. The game's also so fucking ridiculously easy to pull decent numbers that you know for sure that anybody that isn't is the equivalent of a monkey.
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>>388554439
Ah, I see. So people are trying to become special in their own eyes?
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>>388520437
One of you autismbux neets needs to hurry up and commission some Alisaie lewds for me.
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>>388554418
>Better to wait 10s
>when you unalign it from trick attack and other party buffs
>When you can just true north the only set of ice that has RoF in it

big think
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>>388554041

Yeah no one likes him. He's like the penultimate fflogs autist, worst of all he only plays tank because he's garbage at every other role.
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>play melee
>Tidal Wave appears in the back
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>>388554643
>trick attack in PF
good joke
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>>388554682
>Hit Arm's Length
>Keep doing your job
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>>388554771
>Arm's Length and Surecast have made tanks the second worst at mitigating push/pull mechanics next to ranged physical DPS

It's ack-basswards and I hate it. Just thematically it makes no sense.
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>>388554995
PLD laugh at you
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>>388554995
BRD doesn't care about push/pull mechanics
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>>388554995
Not really since there aren't many effects like that on tanks.
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>maint in about five hours
Why so fucking early, Yoshi? this patch can't be that big!
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>>388554995
Plunge, Onslaught. Arguably PLDs are shit at it if it happens often due to Tempered Wills cooldown. Otherwise it's a non issue for tanks.
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>>388552007
It's not so much that sam and rdm are overpowered in levelling content, it's that eveything else is miserable.
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>>388555221
4.06u
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>>388552542
The game gets good after about 1000 hours.
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>>388555221
This is his way of reminding you that you should take a break and play other games.
>>
What's this maintenece even about? I didn't think there were gonna be any more patches till 4.1 dropped.
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>>388555486
They'll give 10 more potency to miasma and bio, that's why.
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>>388555474
GODDAMMIT YOSHI

I HAVE 3 GAMES TO PLAY IN THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS

LET ME PLAY THIS FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER THEN I'LL BE OUT OF YOUR HAIR
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>>388555486
obscure bug fixes and a 10 potency buff to some random skill
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>>388555609
They can't be this obscure if it can't wait til later.
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>>388551180
>wanted clusters
>thought I can level my tanks and get clusters
>do two roulettes
>get cancer
>do comfy hunts instead
The 100k gil is not worth it.
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>>388552542
There is no redpill. The only people who like this game are weebs who'll eat up anything FF related.

It's a super slow, grindy, boring WoW clone. There is zero reason to play it unless you're a weeb retard who wants to pretend to be a catgirl and a play a singleplayer MMO.
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>>388555553
Coming soon to FFXIV
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>>388555783
Really though more and more players are looking for the "mobile" experience like this so yea maybe it will come, and it will be welcomed.
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>>388554529
It's less of a "I want to be special" thing and more about class capability. People who aren't doing well are likely ignoring large parts of their skillset for no real reason other than flat ignorance or laziness. It really doesn't take much to perform passably well, and that's what bothers some people so much when they see others playing like shit.

Lots of people playing FFXIV are playing MMO for the first time. Even if they suck in other games, if it's an RPG you can always cheese or grind your way past hurdles or find an alternate route. But all that can happen in this game is they get carried.
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>>388555742
I don't even care about the Final Fantasy series but I still enjoy FFXIV greatly. It's not slow or even that grindy. If you want to talk about grindy, go play PSO episode 1 and 2 or FFXI. 1 out of 8000 chance to get a heavens punisher from a rare mob that only has a 1/200 chance of appearing.
>>
Clearing out my inv, is there any reason to keep the unsellable verity and primal gear? I'm not fussed about gc seals, so should I just discard them?
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>>388555553
stupid amelican

keep paying sub fol next patch, ror, mol plimals to kill
please look folwald to it :)
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>>388556038
>It's not slow or even that grindy.

Stopped reading there.
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>>388556069
If you mean current primal and verity gear, then no. You will be able to trade them for seals in 4.1 when they become outdated.
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>>388556069
I'd hang onto them if you want to make a relic 3.0, since those will probably use GC seals at some point
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>>388556120
>4 boss fights is "a lot" of content in 2017
Not sure whether to laugh or to cry.
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>Hopes
BLM gets buffed just a wi bit so I feel like its worth going off of RDM for raids.
The Relic weapons for RDM and BLM not to look like ass.
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>>388556217
Seriously if you think FFXIV is slow or grindy then I have no idea how you would feel about any other MMO. FFXI plays like dial-up molassis, it took weeks/months just to level up in legacy EverQuest, and PSO and PSU was notorious for excessive grinding to the point people would pay cheaters to hack in items for them.
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People still play this shitty game? Didn't everyone clear the new expansion in a week?

What do you do anyway? Just run the same shit over and over again? I will never understand MMO players.
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>>388556425
Not too worried about RDM relics with all the rapiers that have been seen so far. Barring a few, they did a great job with making appealing weapons.
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Does upgrading from a 320 weapon from a 310 weapon for my Samurai and RDM make a huge difference? Or should I just wait it out and get my 330 weapon later.
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>>388554643
Trick Attack never lines up with Riddle of Fire because all ninjas are braindead fucking morons that use Trick attack before the first GCD so it wears off before you even get GL3
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>>388556450
I've seen this exact post with this exact image in this thread before. Dumb overshill poster
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>>388556371
it's not.

the only people who say that are retard chink apologists who are happy to pay monthly to repeat content for months until yoshi decides to release more

the fact that people apologize for yoshi deliberately not putting out content and act like it's a good thing is the true sad part about all this
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>>388556519
It makes a fair difference. What makes a big difference is using materia. All those slots basically add up to another piece of equipment
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>>388555783
>mandatory break after leaving o4s
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>>388556519
you need 3 weeks to get a 330
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>>388556547
>TA before first GCD
I have literally never seen this, stop pulling things out of your ass.
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>>388556431
Why are you comparing it to old games no one plays anymore?

Oh, that's right, because only old games were grindy as fuck and nobody plays them anymore for that very same reason.
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>>388556492
Yeah I like a lot of Rapiers, favorite being the Crafted 320 Rapier so far, I also like the Genji one. But with Relics, its a grab bag with FFXIV. We could end up getting a Lost Allagan Rapier.
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>>388556519
Weapon damage and main stats always increase more than secondaries, except in specific situations in 3.x, but I doubt that'll happen again due to every stat being a damage stat now.
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>>388556716
Then you have literally never been in PF/DF with a random ninja. Most of them walk up and trick attack or trick attack after spinning slash.
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>>388555540

It's not like that's insignificant. It's an extra 20% damage boost for them after a 25% damage boost last time.
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>See boss castbar starting a map wide damage attack
>Quickcast my aoe shield
>Still doesn't pop in time due to animations
I don't know. Do I just have to pre-empt this shit and cast the aoe shield before the boss does their attack
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>>388556601
Guess that answers my question. You're just doing the same shit over and over and paying for it. Lol.
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>>388556725
Because modern AAA MMOs are rare these days. Other than FFXIV and Guild Wars 2 expacs, what else is there this year?
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So some RPing fags on my server (Phoenix) now "officially" own a bridge in Kugane (the one just east of market board) and are enforcing rules on it.
Pretty silly stuff. Most of them are lalas, but one dude is a roe.
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>>388555716

Fuck, it's bad enough getting a shit group as a healer, couldn't imagine as a tank with some no-DPS healer making something that'd be 24 minutes hit the 30 minute mark.
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>>388556725
>why are you comparing mmo's to mmo's
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>>388556786
Yes, you just have to learn the fights, or play it safe and just keep the shield up. Many fights won't even have a castbar.
Alternatively you can use any oGCD ability to clip the animation so that the heal goes out faster.
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>>388556907
Just break their rules or whatever. If they say no standing on the railing, make it your new idle spot
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>>388556217
It's literally the least grindy MMO out there right now
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>>388556786
Depends on the fight, in savage fight memorization or a good guideline of knowing whats coming up you start to cast beforehand.

>>388556716
DF/PF Ninjas are fucking horrible, hell in the RavEX farm I put up the other NIN TA'd when it wasn't his bloodlust phase.
Two TA's in that phase is so much damage.
I'm bitching since I was doing it synched since I've gotten higher drop rates from doing it synched instead of unsynched.
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>Unlock the level 68 SCH trait
Ah so this was where my mana was hiding
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>>388556786
It's pretty annoying yeah.
>doing the minotaur hunt in Lochs as SCH
>have literally 0.2s reaction window between someone getting the prey marker and me throwing adlo on them to prevent them from dying
>attack applies the -50% death sickness for 10 seconds, so if they die they keep that
Nice fucking boss Yoshida.
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>>388557075
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Why is this like the only mainstream popular MMO without a private server? It's weird.
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>>388557075
m8, I play the game and even I know you're full of shit

there is literally nothing to do BUT grind
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>>388557096
>Being that bad at SCH
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>>388557073
I'm not sure if I want to anger some autists that are online 16 hours a day and are capable of god knows what.

I think there's 2 lala mafias in Kugane actually. Saw one of the bridge mafia dudes get upset at some other lalas spamming emotes near the retainer bell. Got pretty hot in shout chat.
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>>388557192
>>388557303
Name a less grindy MMO
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>>388557239
It's not fun enough to warrant a private server.
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>>388556986
>>388557078
>>388557103
Alright I guess I'll just drop a shield if the boss hasn't done anything raid wide for a while.

What do you mean by using oGCD abilities to clip animations?
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>>388557096
It used to be fucking nothing, 20% chance of 10s less cd every time you use a stack. At least now if you pay attention you can have constant 45s aetherflow.
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>>388557192
>can buy level boosts
>game shits out double exp rates for playing on a new server
>get even more exp from armory bonus and gear/food/fc/etc
>beat final boss in dungeon, get guaranteed loot that's not duplicate
>beat raid boss, receive guaranteed token you can trade in for loot you want, don't have to spam the same shit 100 times for a CHANCE to get it
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>>388556601
It's that guy that used to post smug anime girl avatars, he's trying to "disguise" himself with overwatch pictures after he was exposed as being a /ffivg/ poster that literally talks about his small his dick is and wants people to bully him for it
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>>388557404
>use a GCD
>it has some animation
>use an oGCD to interrupt said animation with another
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>>388557404
Whenever you use an oGCD you can start it up at the tail end of a regular GCD animation (or another oGCD if you double weave), which makes the effects of that clipped animation go out instantly instead of syncing up with the animation. For AOE heals this is especially useful for AOE heals since it will apply the shield instantly instead of going down the party list. So basically you succor and then mash Energy Drain or Indomitability or something.
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>>388557239
there's a server emulator in progress but it's not a private server or intended to function as one.

also a ffxiv private server would be shit by game design. if story quests are broken then the game becomes unplayable.
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>>388557373
SCH got fucked hard for mp. Aetherflow's mp restoration was halved, and the mp costs for adlo and succor were ramped up to ridiculous levels. At launch, the job could be summed up at 'spam broil and physick'.
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>>388557550
What the fuck is wrong with people
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Make the world interesting. Right now late game is a glorified lobby simulator.
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>>388557518
>can shell out a ton of cash to skip 100s of hours of compulsory, boring ass MSQ, this is totally a good thing
>double xp doesn't affect above
>armor/food xp bonus meaning anything
>Do dungeons to get new loot every time! Go grind-- err, I mean, repeat them!
>See above
Fuck off, retard.
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>>388557729
No clue but he's also the guy that says go back to /vg/ at the start of every thread and the same guy that tries to derail threads by posting characters so they get deleted
For whatever reason it fills him with autistic rage that people won't go to /vg/ to look at his cat and bully him
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Autosage is the best sage.
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>>388557650
Yes, we had to adapt. You're shit if you couldn't do that before 68.
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Sage job when?
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>>388557518
>pushing jump potions as a good thing

the state of this fucking game. the state of mmos
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>>388558026
Autism mod is back
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And we almost hit bump limit
;_;
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fug u mod
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>>388557930
if you want a multiplayer mmo, you shouldn't play FFXIV
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>>388557969
Name a less grindy MMO, faggot.
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moooods
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janny didn't like us talking about video games. not one bit.
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>>388557650
Lucid dreaming exists, learn how to not be an ape with your mana. You're pretty bad if you couldn't handle the mana cut with the extra tools you got.

>>388557930
Why are you talking about PSO2 in a XIV thread?
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