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What is the last VN you finished? Did you like it?

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What is the last VN you finished? Did you like it?
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PE Fandisc
Was nice
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>>388516302
Yeah uh I'm here for the mimikaki service, kudesai.
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>>388515940
Kara no Shoujo, it was alright but way too many decisions.
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>>388515940
S;G0
Was a bit underwhelmin compared to S;G, but it was pretty alright
but seriously, why didn't they change the old portraits
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>>388515940
playing some wegs atm but they're all unfinished and leaving with sever cases of blueballs every time.
I really wish I waited 6 months before getting into them
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>>388517754
In 6 months literally none of them will be completed. They'll have a handful of new art each at best. /weg/ is a piss hole of incompetence.
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Dies Irae.

It was pure Kino.
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that one with the girl who is a blob and a loli and you fuck her. like 8 years ago. it was okay
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Umineko.
It was one of the more amazing things I've played.
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>>388517876
For the ones I play. I feel like in 6 months time, you'll at least get your dick wet so you can finally fap to a decent scene.
I'm under no illusion that even the most well funded games won't be finished until well into 2018
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Kindred Spirits on the Roof.
I love yuri but still found it pretty boring unfortunately.
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>>388515940
I'm trying to finish it.
I like it so far
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>>388515940
It's okay
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The Silver Case
Was great, looking forward to the 25th Ward remake.
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Monster Girl Quest
I wasn't expecting it to be as great as it was, I only started it for the porn
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>>388515940
What's that?
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>>388515940

> ex-girlfriend wants to hook up
> married man and seeing this today made me chuckle

well fuck
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>>388515940
noble works, and yes
working on majikoi a-1 rn
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>>388515940
what game ?
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>>388516817
KS is mediocre, but "way too many decisions" is not the reason why. What the fuck.
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>>388515940
Sweetest Monster.
It was surprisingly good for what it was, but I saw the twist coming from a mile away and felt like the story could've been far better with a few relatively simple tweaks.
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>>388515940
Steins;Gate, it's now my favourite.
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>>388515940
Chaos;Head

fuck no, I kept waiting for the moment it got good and it just kept getting worse
the start has a really good atmosphere but then it just tried to be lain with supernatural swords and fails horribly

one of the worst endings in VN too, I can't believe I've seen like two separate people say steins;gate was worse, fucking hipsters
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>>388516817

I just want to say, Innocent Grey is fucking weird. If you've played Cartaga and Kara no Shoujo, I really have to wonder what they were going for.

The protagonists are basically fucking useless. I mean, for detectives, they're shitty at their job! Everyone died or was horribly maimed, not once by twice. More, they're not even good fighters! Aren't noir detectives, you know, supposed to be able to tank punches in the face and keep going, fueled mostly by alcohol and hatred?

What was the point of any of that? (I mean, Cartaga collapsed under the whole 'Wait, does she actually have superpowers' bullshit, but KnS was even more depressingly futile because the central mystery was unsolvable.)
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>>388517891
>kino
I can't tell when people say this shit sarcastically or not.
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>>388515940
Umineko, it was a good read. I wish it was structured like Ace Attorney gameplay though, it had the potential to be.
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>>388515940
Begone thot
Fata Morgana for me too, it's probably my second favorite VN after Umineko
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>>388520330
don't believe chaos;child faggots either, steins;gate is as good as it gets in sciadv
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>>388520660
is chaos;child even translated? I can't read japanese anyway

I gotta say though, any game by Kotaro Uchikoshi is better than either
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>>388515940
Probably Ever17 a couple years ago. I bought Dies Irae this summer but stopped after 2/4 routes.
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>>388520607
Your me...
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>>388520237
He said Kara no Shoujo, not Katawa Shoujo. It's a world of difference.
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>>388520034
>Thinking of cheating on your wife
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>>388518123
I hope you are aware of the truth Goat kun.
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>>388520816
???
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>>388520330
Chaos;Head IS better than Steins;Gate before it turns into fantasy shit instead of mindfuck thriller. The ending was atrocious, yes.
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>>388520383
I say it sarcastically (even though some people I know say it for real), but yeah, it was really fucking good.

Easily some of the best the médium has to offer.
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>>388520926
I fundamentally disagree with VNs ever being flawed for having too many choices. Choices can be flawed in their execution, but not simply because they are high in number.
If they were actually talking about KnS, then the real problem with that VN is that your choices changed things that they shouldn't have, especially towards the end.
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>>388521223
"fantasy shit" is 80% of it
it wasn't even that much of a mindfuck thriller before the fantasy, that starts after shogun shows up, which is already fantasy mind world shit
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Dies Irae. I will buy it on a sale because I believe it deserves my money.
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>>388521645
The first scene with shogun actually really creeped me out. I'd say it was still in the realm of possibility that the MC was just that fucked in the head and not fantasy (although there was a high chance of that too)
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>>388520731
>any game
>ZTD
wut
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>>388522040
ZTD is one of the best comedies ever written

To this date, I still laugh at the blue button whos only purpose was to blow up the station for no reason.
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Let’s裸GO! ぼくラの自由研究

Last good game by Complet's.

Fuck Mame for retiring.
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>>388520330
S;G is worse, deal with it. DUDE black holes can compress data, DUDE a cell phone that receives a 32 byte packet from the fucking future can decompress that shit and blow several gigs straight into your brain despite not even being able to store that much data and not being modified in any way. Magical fucking swords would have made more sense.
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Technically re-reading it. Because I was curious to see how the official localization holds up compared to the fan translation.
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>>388522790
>Complet's
Wnat the fuck with this face
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>>388515940
Is Persona 5 considered as such ?
Because there's pretty much nothing to do except reading.
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>>388522790
I wan the old art style back.
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>>388523691
We all are
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>>388515940
Everlasting Summer
I played it as I was the protagonist I got the forever alone ending
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>>388515940
was alright
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>>388515940
Majikoi something. It was pretty mediocre.
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>>388515940
I think I haven't played one since I finished MuvLuv Alternative when it leaked years ago. I probably will never read anything in the genre that tops that, but I've recently become interested in Dies Irae, looks like something right up my alley. I will get around it sometimes, but I find it hard to find time for reading a VN since I'm not neet.
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>>388515940
Euphoria
It was absolute garbage though
I don't know what I was thinking just playing a game
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>>388521238
>>388517891
>it took seven (7) posts for the diesfag to infiltrate the thread
Keep Yourself Safe
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>>388525328
They are truly the Tarofags of VNs.
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does anyone remember the name of that VN from a few years back where the main guy sees the world as a fucked up guro nightmare but gets constant blowjobs from this loli and everyone else sees her as a flesh monster?
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>>388525558
Boku no uta
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>>388525558

Saya no Uta
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Season of Sakura.
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>>388525328
>>388525515
Would you mind explaining what the fuck is your problem?
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>>388525328
I don't know what they see in that shit. It was hammy and awkward as fuck.
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>>388525841
My only problem is that Dies Irae is trash and you keep posting the same cringeworthy screencaps while pretending it's some masterful work of art in every single vn thread.
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Fate Stay Night. It was my first visual novel, and it felt like reading it was admitting to myself that I was a weeb. I've finally accepted my weeb status.
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>>388525983
Ah, you are retarded.
I should have known.
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>>388515940
BBCF. I enjoyed it.
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>>388526082
FSN is overrated trash with one of the worst MCs around. Read more VNs.
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>>388515940
What is this?
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>>388526172
Diesfags are the sort of people who would unironically post the dark and cold as ice pasta.
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>>388526082
Embrace it anon
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>>388526256
I enjoy the Fate series although I don't think it's particularly deep or anything.
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>>388525983
>Stop talking about VNs in a visual novel thread
Really fires up the neurons...
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>>388526256
>one of the worst MCs around
It's been over a decade and you people still don't get it?
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>>388526349
I liked the music.
And that was about it. I thought Tsukihime was a much better offering.
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>>388526281
House in Fata Morgana
Don't expect porn, it's pretty story-heavy
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>>388526256
He should read more VNs but the only trash here is you fag
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>What is the last VN you finished?
Hatsukoi 1/1
>Did you like it?
No it's the worst shit I've ever read in my life. The MC is garbage and most of the girls are garbage.
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>>388526419
If you can, please explain to me why so many people have told me Shirou is a garbage protagonist but then point to Shiki as a good one, when he's worse by a considerable margin
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>>388526510
God damn it, just because she looked cute and human and not a blob.
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>>388526378
So help me god if you're thinking of the sheath
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>>388526419
>I thought Tsukihime was a much better offering.
The only way you can possibly think this is if you go into Fate expecting something as shallow as Tsukihime and ignore all the things it does better as a result.
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>>388526510
what are some that I can jack off to
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>>388519750
This, since its the only VN I read to completion aside from Taimanin Asagi

I've been interested in Root Letter, is it good?
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>>388526637
What the fuck do you even mean?
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>>388526642
>fate
>depth
fucking lol
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>>388526637
Who gives a fuck about sheath
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>>388526621
They're almost direct opposites, if you like one you probably hate the other
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>>388526807
That's pretty much the post quality I'd expect from an anti Fate faggot.
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>>388523898
You should enjoy DLC then.
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>>388521740
C;H becomes much better if you consider B ending canon.
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>>388526632
It was never meant to have sex in it since it's about tragic love stories

>>388526665
I don't know, I don't understand why people play VNs for the porn since it always sucks
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>>388515940
I also finished The House in Fata Morgana recently. It was pretty good, despite the glacial pacing.
Michel and Giselle are cute as hell.
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>>388526974
>They're almost direct opposites
Yeah, in the sense that Shirou is one of the most interesting and developed protagonists in weeabshit whereas Shiki is barely even a character. The only unique things about him are his powers and the fact that he goes crazy rip and tear mode at like one specific point in the story. Not that it wasn't a cool moment, but other than that the Nanaya blood doesn't really affect his personality and he just speds 90% of the game being a bland self insert MC with no distinct traits (queue Tsukihime fags posting that one part where he awkwardly threatens to rape Curryshit as if that one instance of idiotic writing is an actual replacement for character depth).
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>>388515940
Katawa Shoujo, though I only did Emi, Lilly and Hanako's routes. It was enjoyable and relaxing, but felt short, which I don't know if it's bad or good. I have a bad habit of avoiding most entry-level VN so I regret not reading it until now.
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>>388526991
>no argument
typical fate fag
you probably hate the anime too because the "how to watch" guide on reddit told you to.
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>>388515940
>Planetarian: The Reverie of a Little Planet
It was alright. You can see the ending coming a mile away, but I had some unexpected feels when Yumemi asked that you not be angry with the military robot, because it was probably malfunctioning from being alone.
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>>388527296
I don't understand why people think Shirou is a bad protagonist unless they just want a self insert. Fate Stay Night really develops his character and shows the tensions between his ideals, reality, his desires, and so on. He's one of the best weeb protagonists imho.
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>>388526621
I don't particularly care for Shiki or anything, just that I found Shirou to be an irritating idealistic sack of idiotic garbage. To get it out of the way, I hated the writing in FSN. It dragged on and on in the most meaningless, tedious way. I hated that they integrated sex by turning it into some magical semen saves the day bullshit that fucked over any sort of consistent characterization. I hated that Shirou was essentially a gnat taking on elephants, yet somehow, because of GUTS and WILLPOWER, and that's fucking it, he could beat people who should have annihilated him instantly. I don't care that the writer gave him bullshit plot armor by shoving a magical sheath inside him. He should have been crushed every single time. He has a huge hole punched through him where his heart should be? No problem, just pick the right choice and he'll survive by pure force of will. His ideals were foolish and unrealistic. He had absolutely no way of seeing them through, and yet, people take him seriously and he magically outlasts them in fights that should have been laughably one sided.

But again, I liked the music. It was pretty nice.

>>388526739
Most people counter Shirou's plot armor by bringing up the sheath anytime anyone says anything negative about him as an MC. If that's not what you were thinking of, then what is?
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>>388527325
I've posted so many autistic 5 post long explanations of why I think Shirou's character arc is so well done over the years (hating on Fate is a pretty popular hobby after all) that I honestly can't bring myself to do it anymore. No matter how passionate you are over something, after doing it for the umpeenth time it just gets old. Just make a post explaining why you think it's shit so I can make a reply greentexting one line at a time.
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>>388527602
>I don't particularly care for Shiki or anything, just that I found Shirou to be an irritating idealistic sack of idiotic garbage.

>this is literally one of the themes and is deeply explored in the VN
>thinking it's bad

shit taste
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>>388526991
Just admit you like mindless flashy shit with no substance.
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>>388527602
The shirou plot armour wanking was so him getting beyond BTFO in HF maade more impact
But I agree, Fate and UBW had insane amounts of asspulling
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>>388527730
There's nothing inherently wrong with being overly idealistic idiot. There is something inherently wrong when it's shoved down your throat and comes to pass through stupid implausible bullshit.
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>yet another VN thread derailed by type-moonfags
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>>388515940
Amusingly, it was Fata Morgana. I liked it.
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>>388527859
There is nothing implausible about someone becoming distorted by losing their family and memories as a child, only to have their adopted father die too. That is one of the most realistic things about his character, and as Archer points out in some ways it evolved out of him worshiping Kiritsugu rather than his own ideas.
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>>388528021
That really didn't address the criticism in any way.
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>>388527602
>I hated that they integrated sex by turning it into some magical semen saves the day bullshit that fucked over any sort of consistent characterization.
I don't think even the biggest Fate fan would disagree with you there.

> I hated that Shirou was essentially a gnat taking on elephants, yet somehow, because of GUTS and WILLPOWER, and that's fucking it, he could beat people who should have annihilated him instantly. I don't care that the writer gave him bullshit plot armor by shoving a magical sheath inside him.
What does this even mean? You hate that the protagonist in a fantasy story featuring lots of magical fights wins fights thanks to his super special magic? Couldn't you also say that Shiki's mystic eyes of killing literally anything are just as much of an asspull? A character having super stong self healing abiltiies that allow it to live through supposedly fatal injuries isn't exactly uncommon, and plenty of other characters in the Nasuverse have it. Why does it annoy you so much that Shirou happens to have a magical artifact that gives him those powers? Is your main gripe with F/SN seriously the fact that you don't like the protagonist's magical powers?
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>>388527859
>There is something inherently wrong when it's shoved down your throat
What?
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>>388528163
yes some people are not going to like asspull magic fights. Its a legitimate complaint. It should be a warning at the start of the story.
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>>388528163
The problem is that it was far too inconsistent. Pick the wrong choice and Shirou will die from relatively minor things compared to what he goes up against in any of the larger fights. His character power is inconsistent. It's all over the place. Shiki has his mystic eyes that are insanely op, but its rules are established early on and you know just how powerful they are nearly straight from the get go. Shirou on the other hand has practically nothing outside of Saber and an asspull of regeneration.

My main gripe with F/SN is the writing. Shirou is simply a close second and easier to tear into from what I remember after all these years.
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>>388528660
>The problem is that it was far too inconsistent. Pick the wrong choice and Shirou will die from relatively minor things compared to what he goes up against in any of the larger fights.
I can see this in two ways. The more sceptical one is that Nasu just wanted to have a bunch of gruesome bad end scenes because they're cool and give him an excuse to write more Tiger Dojo shenanigans, while also ensuring that completionist fags have more shit to see. On the other hand, I could also argue that in a life or death situation your survival might depend on a bunch of split second decisions where a seemingly meaningless decision can be the difference between a horrible death and just barely making it out alive.


Either way, it doesn't really matter. Like I said before, I think you got into Fate expecting another Tsukihime and just read it for the chuuni conceptual powers and the cool fights, which are not what Fate does well at all. Your complaints don't really address Shirou as a character, because having super healing powers is not a character flaw.
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>>388528305
His ideals, no matter how "nice" and well intentioned they are, are shoved down your throat because it feels like the writer was unwilling to compromise any of them, no matter how implausible they were. It doesn't help that his ideals are as generic as generic gets when it comes to standard shonen MCs. Shirou should have gotten torn down early on, and come out a wiser, deeper, more well-rounded character because of it. Instead it's just naivety, guts and willpower every single time and he magically beats people that should have obliterated him.
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>>388529545
So you're literally a secondary that only read the first route or more likely watched the DEEN anime?
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>>388529170
I didn't read it for the fights or because I thought Tsukihime was alright. I read it because people said it was amazing. I care about a good plot and developed characters. Fights are a distant second to that.
If I cut out the fights and powers, the best thing I can say about Shirou is that he is completely and utterly generic. He is a shining example of a standard shonen MC.
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>>388527801
HF was full of asspulls and bad writing too, let's not kid ourselves here.

Shirou should've died WAYYYY before actually making it to Sakura. True Ending was godawful happy ending forced shit, Normal should've been the actual finale.
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>>388529545
>Shirou should have gotten torn down early on, and come out a wiser, deeper, more well-rounded character because of it.
This is literally what happens... in the third route of the VN. Did you not read past the Fate route?

The entire point of the VN is to take those "generic" ideals that are so common among shounen protagonists and not only come up with an explanation as for why someone would end up with such a fucked up set of obsessive beliefs other than just being an anime protagonist, and then make the character finally grow into a normal, healthy person by abandoning those unreasonable ideals.
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>>388529669
I don't know what you're talking about, but I read all the routes. I gave it that chance. Pretty sure I hated the last route the most, whatever that one was. But I can't say I liked any of them.

>watching anime
Nope
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>>388529840
>the best thing I can say about Shirou is that he is completely and utterly generic. He is a shining example of a standard shonen MC.
Okay, now I'm really convinced that you only read the first route. Shirou is only like that at a superficial level, and that's because exploring just how ridiculous that sort of character really is is the entire point of Shirou and, by extension, the entire VN.
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>>388530041
Everything you have described thus far has been from a single route, and the remaining two address your problems very specifically, which is why I'm convinced you only read the first.
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>>388530041
>I don't know what you're talking about, but I read all the routes. I gave it that chance. Pretty sure I hated the last route the most, whatever that one was. But I can't say I liked any of them.
But that's the route with less ideals, asspulls and general shonen stuff?
He even loses his healing powers
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>>388529545
>writer was unwilling to compromise

It was Shirou who was unwilling to compromise thanks to idealizing Kiritsugu. You are really missing the point. And Shirou doesn't really win a single fight against a major servant except for Gilgamesh. In fact, he doesn't even kill any servant, Gil included, he just fights them to a standstill or to a key moment where someone else bails him out. And his ideals are definitely not generic, no shonen MC goes as far as Shirou went to maintain integrity.
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>>388529973
I can't remember that moment, but are you talking about the fight with Archer? That's the most prominent memory I have of the later routes, and one of the moments that irritated me the most. When exactly did he get torn down and by whom? Because he still crushes everyone in the end from I remember using just one arm from Archer.
It's been a long time, but not once did I ever feel like Shirou was forced to truly give up on his beliefs. Not only that, he convinced his future self who was actually reasonable, to not give up on his stupid beliefs. Only with Archer, those beliefs wouldn't actually be stupid because he had the power to not be a reckless idiot about it.

>>388530163
I read every single route.
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>>388530589
>Only with Archer, those beliefs wouldn't actually be stupid

Man, it's like you just read the wiki and came here to shitpost. Archer was a fucking Counter Guardian, he was absolutely POWERLESS. In fact Shirou as a non magical human had far more freedom in pursuing his ideals than Archer as a servant ever had or will have.
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>>388530224
>MC kills Berserker and Saber
>less shonen and asspulls than the route where he beats a weakened future versión of himself and the one he counters
What did he mean by this
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>>388530589
Did you read the VN as a child? Because you're drastically misremembering almost everything. The Archer arm route specifically has him give up his ideals and the one where he fights Archer tears down his naivety and adjusts his ideal to a more reasonable and less self-destructive version.
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>>388530504
>doesn't really win a single fight
The fact that he could even come to a standstill is still laughable.
And Gilgamesh is only by far and away the most powerful of them all.
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>>388530589
>I can't remember that moment, but are you talking about the fight with Archer? That's the most prominent memory I have of the later routes, and one of the moments that irritated me the most. When exactly did he get torn down and by whom? Because he still crushes everyone in the end from I remember using just one arm from Archer.
What? What do his beliefs have to do with his fights?

>not once did I ever feel like Shirou was forced to truly give up on his beliefs.
Did you not read HF?

>Not only that, he convinced his future self who was actually reasonable, to not give up on his stupid beliefs.
Yes, in the second route, because that's the entire point of the second route. It's all that setup that gives the final route all of its impact when Shirou finally stops trying to emulate Kiritsugu.
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>>388530696
That's not an asspull, they lobbed Archer's arm off and gave it to Shirou, and he started becoming a vegetable from using it. And he only beat Saber 1 on 1 in a bad end where it kills him, otherwise Rider is the one to kill Saber
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>>388530798
And ironically Gilgamesh is the only servant he can actually beat in an all out fight because his powers directly counter Gil's. It's even spelled out for you in the VN. Gil has to summon his shit from the Gate of Babylon. Shirou's swords are all already deployed in UBW. He needs less time and effort to overwhelm Gilgamesh, the only thing he was lacking was magical energy to maintain the assault and Rin provided him with that.
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>>388530851
The narration claimed he would die if he uses archer's arm yet he survives all the way up until Kotomine's fight.

The whole last part is just asspull galore and plot armor.
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>>388530696
>Fate has MC project fucking magical swords and seaths out of his ass
>UBW has MC using fucking reality marbles that nobody except servants can't use
>HF has MC project a fucking piece of stone he uses to kill a weakened Heracles while having the huge powerup of Archer who can project even more broken shit and even so he suffers severe brain damage in that single fight
>MC doesn't even win vs Saber, he just stabs her after Medusa wins aganist her
He also allows his waifu to kill people
How is this more shonen than the other routes?
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>>388530969
It's Nasu's prose. He sets up actions as impossible, then shows how it can actually be done to make the person doing it appear more impressive.
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hey

fate is shit by the way
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>>388530969
He would die eventually from using it is what they said and that's what happens in every ending except the good one where he literally gets a new body. But before that he gets magic alzheimers and is on a time and projection limit
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>>388531038
>UBW has MC using fucking reality marbles that nobody except servants can't use
Reality marbles aren't a servant-exclusive ability, idiot, it's just a unique power that exists from birth and can't be made up artificially like a normal spell.
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>>388530694
Bro, the point isn't whether or not Archer can follow through with it, it's that Shirou actually manages to convince him that he should live and go on to become a hero.
Never mind the fact that he actually went toe to toe and outlasted fucking Archer in a one on one fight.

Honestly, I'm more amazed I actually guessed the right scene. That's kind of sad.

>>388530775
How exactly did he give up any of his ideals in that fight? It was, again, another gnat vs elephant moment where the entire point of the fight was to continue to allow Shirou to believe in his stupid shit. Archer doesn't tear down anything, he himself caves and gives Shirou his only real power for the rest of the VN.
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>>388531079
Fate is shit but that doesn't excuse retards that weren't able to grasp its simple plot and themes, and then come here to bitch about it.
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>>388531038
>Reality marbles are servant only magic
Wew, fucking retard.
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>>388531079
At least Fate is finished.
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>>388530969
>The narration claimed he would die if he uses archer's arm
And he does. The death isn't immediate, but his fate is essentially sealed the moment he removed the bandage. His brain gets half fried immediately and by the time he's fighting Kotomine they're basically both dead already.
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>>388531260
oh no my friend it's only just begun

this is the era of gacha
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>>388531159
>>388531225
Well what humans have reality marbles except Shirou?
And no, the little girl from SF doesn't count since she is pretty much an abomination with absurd amounts of mana
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>>388531268
>>388531103
He didn't die inmediatly because plot armor, that's the point, Nasucucks.
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>>388531260
I wish
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>>388531213
Shirou doesn't convince Archer of anything, he simply reminds him of his own self in the past and reminds him why he did what he did. He didn't "outlast" Archer, Archer was holding back to see just how far Shirou would go to oppose the apparently impossible foe. In fact, he just let Shirou stab him because he felt like he had lost the argument and betrayed himself and those weren't the ideals that were at fault here. Seriously, how can you misinterpret these things this badly?
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>>388531079
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>>388531320
Shirou's foster father for one.
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>Read a badly written novel by a second-rate writer
>Complain about bad writing.
Read an actually good chuunige, secondaries.
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>>388531363
>Hey Shirou my man, if you take off the shroud you will die eventually
>takes it off
>dies eventually after getting severe brain damage instantly
>plot armour
You can complain about many dumb shit in fate and you complain about this?
If you want (You)s go to /fgog/ and shitpost about who would win in a Gil vs Lancelot fight
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>>388515940
I got a bunch of nukige downloaded and a text hooker all set up and everything, but I got distracted by manga and books.

What should I read next: Oneechan Hunters, or that one with the guy who crossdresses to get into fashion school, but ends up going to a boy's school by mistake? Or should I read a real VN and not just porn?
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>>388531363
>cancer doesn't kill people instantly because of their plot armor
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>>388531561
Alright, I'll give you that. Assuming that's true, it just proved me right. Shirou did not have to give up anything and he "reminded" Archer of his ideals.
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>>388531715
Lancelot won against Gil in that event written by Urobuchi though.
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>>388531213
>Archer doesn't tear down anything, he himself caves and gives Shirou his only real power for the rest of the VN.
He does, you weren't paying attention. Shirou up until that point only believed in that ideal because it was forced onto him by his father, and he pursued it like a robot. His conflict with Archer forces him to affirm his ideal and believe it for himself. And Rin after that gives him a human investment, so he doesn't wind up a mindless robot that dies alone like Archer did
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>>388531861
You running in circles doesn't prove your ramblings right, really.
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>>388531213
>it's that Shirou actually manages to convince him that he should live and go on to become a hero.
That's the entire point of the route though. Shirou's ideals are unhealthy and fucked up, they're basically his way of trying to cope with severe childhood trauma and they're not even truly his since he's just trying to copy Kiritsugu. But in the end of the day, trying to help and save people is a good thing, and even if those beliefs are twisted and unnatural, they're still beautiful and worth pursuing. Archer is the result of Shirou living that life and eventually becoming bitter and regretful after being betrayed, but Shirou makes him realize in the end choosing to follow those beliefs was not necessarily wrong. Even if his obsession with saving others is actually just a coping mechanism that will end up leading him to misery, that's not gonna make him stop trying to follow those "fake" ideals of his, because in the end of the day being a hero is something worth pursuing. That's why that is the one route where Gilgamesh is the end boss, and Shirou has to beat his "real" treasurers with his "fake" projections, because the entire point of the route is that Shirou's "fake" ideals aren't worthless or wrong just because they're fake, and something that's fake can still have its value (so his ideals are worth pursuing and his swords can beat Gilgamesh's originals).
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>>388531864
With a shitton of help from 3 very strong servants, yes.
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>>388531939
Grasping at straws, heh, Gilgacuck?
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>>388531928
The initial argument was over Shirou's asspulls and bullshit ideals, not whether or not Archer was taking him seriously. I read it nearly a decade ago. I don't remember the gnitty gritty of all crap I hated in that VN.
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>>388531939
Wouldn't it just be better to summon Lancelot as Saber, order him to use his power that allows him to impersonate anyone, walk up to Gil's master, stab him and then fight severely weakened Gil that can't even project his armor due to mana shortage? That's something that would also fit the Fate way of going around the impossible barriers set up around opponents that are supposedly invincible and just can't be beaten.
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>>388531675
Fate has chuuni fights and powers but in the end it's just a character driven story with great character exploration and development. Dies is actually just 100% chuunishit.
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>>388531320
There were some in expanded lore from Tsukihime I think. RM are extremely rare because they require a certain self awareness, training and a lifetime of experience to draw out, which is why usually only vampires and shit have enough time to draw theirs out. Shirou got a head start by absorbing the experiences of his future self through paradox bullshit
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>>388532142
Why not just nuke the city
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>>388532167
>he didn't get it.
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>>388517876
the 3DCG ones actually make progress since they don't rely on betashit low test virgins who run out of stamina halfway through an art project
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>>388532090
There were no asspulls because they weren't necessary. If you've read this a decade ago, you are not fit to argue about it. Your most negative impressions of it, given ten years of time and back then most likely seen through the eyes of a child, are hardly an accurate representation of what had transpired in that VN.
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>>388531995
That's exactly what happened, Waver gathered the perfect team to assassinate Gilgamesh because he was the hardest threat to manage. So how is he grasping?
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Just realized my last VN was School Idol QT Cool. Planning to move onto Otomaid Cafe next time I'm in the mood for traps.
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>>388532290
You're honing in on one fight while ignoring everything else.
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>>388515940
Sweetest Monster, it was too artsy for the sake of being artsy but overall pretty good.
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>>388532246
And just like in every other thread where you try to force your meme game, you will now obviously refuse to explain what there is to "get" in Dies Irae.
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>>388524848
Sad to see it was a shit. Why do you hate it? Haven't play it myself
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>>388527532
>unless they just want a self insert.
That's exactly the kind of person Fate appeals to. They want the males to be as much of a non-character as possible.
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A-D: eh, it's kinda boring and confusing
E: HOLY SHIT THIS IS AWESOME
C',D': Nice epilogue, I guess
A', B': Who thought that was a good idea to write something atrocious like that?
E': Just kill me
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>>388518123
Ok, now play the superior Higurashi.
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>>388532423
It's not shit at all, but it's a pretty light hearted comedy VN. If you go into it expecting a good story you're obviously gonna be disappointed, but it was one of the most fun (and funniest) times I've had with a VN.
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>>388532349
Can't really call it a fight if you came to it with a bent paper knife.
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>>388532364
You look like you only understood Dies Irae at a Surface level. Read it again.
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>>388532495
>They want the males to be as much of a non-character as possible.
That's actually why you see so many people hating on Fate and saying that the protagonist is annoying and obnoxious. They just wanted another self insert MC.
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>>388532558
I just loved Majikoi for the atmosphere of friends hanging out, joking around and having a good time. It reminded me of my own good times and I miss them. The VN made me nostalgic and then melancholic, so I didn't even finish it. Momoyo was pretty fun too.
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>>388526554
>most
So there are girl which is not garbage? Which one?
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>>388532531
>E
Totally agree, all that shit at the end with dreamy girl and the recursion was nakazawa kino. I thought that was going to be the end, still wish it was.
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>>388532625
Just tell me what to look out for on my next few playthroughs, shitposter-kun.
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>>388532780
I feel you. Seriously, E wrapped everything up tidily. C' and D' were nice as epilogues that filled some holes and expanded on the characters we didn't really see in the story. But everything after that... why?
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>>388531929
>finally decide to make a 1500 character post defending weeabshit vns
>get ignored in favor of unironic nasuverse power level shit flinging
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>>388525192
Yea, I was disappointed with it too. Has some good moments but it's way too over the top by the end.
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>>388532290
>implying FSN isn't for children
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>>388533075
It deals with themes a child wouldn't understand.
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>>388532336
Those are some cute girls!
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>>388533008
That is what you get for defending shit vn. Kindly kys
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>>388533141
Toshaka's anus is a very deep and intellectual theme.
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>>388515940
it was good.
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>>388525192
>>388533010
That's because you're idiots who unironically read porn for the story. Euphoria got famous for having a "good" story since it was supposed to be just a nukige full of weird porn. The bait and switch with the second half of the game being a lot more story heavy was pretty effective since everyone was expecting the entire game to be just like the first part.

Then somehow the "Euphoria has a good story" meme began to spread and now we've got people unironically reading really fetishy porn for the story and complaining that it's not that great.
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Who cares about vn. I want a Nukige where the son fuck his mother. Is that too much of fetish for moon?
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Friendly reminder that your favorite VN is trash if this tag doesn't apply to it.
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>>388532559
Archer's goal the entire time was to break free from Rin and kill Emiya. It wasn't to test him. It was only after Emiya started outlasting him and spewing his shit that Archer was persuaded and let him go.
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>>388515940
>Look it up on VNDB
>No Sexual Content
You didn't get me this time, OP.
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>>388533354
>not playing VNs for story
Nigga, get off this site.

Besides, there ARE nukiges with good plots. Euphoria just isn't one.
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>>388533370
Chichi Miko is good. The canon ending is him wife-ing and having a daughter with his grandmother.
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>>388533141
It's the naruto of VNs you fag
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>>388533452
>VNs that allow selfinserting
>not trash
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>>388533008
That's what you get on /v/.
>Automata thread, make a big post about its themes and influences
>everybody ignores it and continues to fling shit about "weeaboo nihilist fapbait robutts shit gameplay kamiya tarofags pretentious"
That's just how things go.
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>>388533549
>not playing VNs for story
Where the fuck did I imply this?

>there ARE nukiges with good plots
No there are not.
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>>388533592
I think you need to read the post again unless you're agreeing with me on purpose.
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>>388533592
>reading comprehension
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The baseball match in Wanko's route was way more intense than it had any right to be.
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>>388533715
>>388533753
I read it as "Without"
Time to kill myself or go to bed
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>Tfw KNS 3 will never get translated
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>>388533649
This shit just encourages me to stop giving a shit and just make low effort meme posts like everyone else
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Danganronpa 2

Better than the first one, but it can't compete with the Phoenix Wright series for me.

Gotta love hopeman though
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>>388533924
Why the fuck aren't you learning Japanese, you goddamn retard?
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>>388533556
>grandmother
Is it a literal granny. I actually asking for mother-son but turn out I got more than I bargained.
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>>388533578
and? naruto is /GOAT/ kino
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>>388533578
>>388533338
Your shitposting and memery doesn't prove me wrong, you know?
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>>388533924
she's still alive, the buried corpse was the vanished body of her mother
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>>388534037
>Why the fuck aren't you learning Japanese, you goddamn retard?
Because I value my time?
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>>388533841
What do people see in Majikoi? Even generic harem anime isn't that generic.
>waifus have zero depth
>story is mostly slice of life
>no tension anywhere
>sequels butchers characters even more
Shit is a mess.
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>>388534172
Bullshit...
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Finished Dies Irae, it was good. Fata morgana is next on my list. Give me some suggestions, i really like mystery, mindfucking and detective shit.
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>>388533663
I'll imply you, bitch.
You said we're stupid for reading it for the plot, despite being told it's got a good story.
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>>388532729
>I just loved Majikoi for the atmosphere of friends hanging out, joking around and having a good time
This is the exact reason I couldn't get into it
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>>388515940
Akai Hitomi ni Utsuru Sekai
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>>388533993
As long as you bend to Junko, we'll accept you liking Phoenix Wright more.

V3 demo seems good by the way.
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>>388534454
Umineko
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>>388534509
Well VN's themselves aren't for everyone. Find something that suits your fancy. What were you looking for in the first place?
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>>388534607
fuck i should have mentioned, i've read it.
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>>388534076
Literal in the biological sense, not so much appearance wise. The mother and sister are always sex-able characters too. You get to have sex with your granny incest child in the sequel.

And Onee-chan hunters doesn't have incest and isn't translated, but is also some pretty good /ss/ fun. One of the only shota gangbangs I can think of.
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>>388534449
they explicitly say how the bone structure "has to match" because the hips are widened because of birth and she was pregnant...but guess who else was at one point in time.
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>>388534705
Higurashi
Danganronpa
ZERO Escape series
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>>388532558
>light hearted comedy VN
What's with the serious drama though? Is it mandatory to have a drama in VN no matter the genre is? Every single VN that I read always have one forced drama near the end, even if 80% or so of the story is normal day slice-of-life scenes.
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>>388534240
Clearly. Which is why you're posting on /v/.
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>>388534705
>>388534815
There's also a Western made VN that's not too bad: Shinrai.
ALso, Analogue: A Hate Story was surprisingly fun.
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>>388534883
....touche...
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>>388515940

> no porn

gtfo
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>>388533924
You better start learning 日本語 anon.
>>388534172
You can find Misas' body in one of the ends in KnS. Stop deluding yourself.
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>>388534475
Yeah, because people started saying that it had a surprisingly good story for what was supposed to be just a bunch of porn scenes, not that it was an amazing story driven VN.
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>>388534581
>>388534781
>reddit spacing
fuck off
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>>388534607
You will enjoy fata morgana then, it hassome good twists and some parts reminded me of Umineko a lot
Also check the backlog when you enter door 4, there is some trippy shit going on there
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>RASTU VEEEN
Steins;Gate
>DU U RIKE?
yeah, its okay, sure
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>>388515940
World End Economica 3

Loved it. I'll apologize for the first 2 as well. That's how much I liked it.
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>>388534883
It's actually not that bad. Anki only takes thirty minutes a day, and I'm already stumbling through kids' books at least. I've got a jap copy of Journey to the West that should be arriving tomorrow and I'm super excited for my first time reading that to be in Japanese. I regret not picking up a Lupin book or two with it, but I can wait.
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>>388535043
No one knows what the fuck that is. Stop with your stupidass boogyman bullshit.
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>>388534781
>shots
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Why are every mom-son vn has to be shota. Can't we have a normal young boy listing for his hot mother?
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>>388534149
You didn't prove yourself right either, you know?
Calling someone a child and saying muh deep themes doesn't mean shit.
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>>388535190
Don't reply to weak, obvious bait, retard.
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>>388534986
one of the ends is exactly that you mong, it's not the true end
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>>388535024
I got it, anon-chan.
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>>388535190
t. cuck from reddit
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>>388534675
Nah I'm fine with VNs I just heard a lot of praise for Majikoi and decided to try it out, but then saw that protag is this cool dude who's friends with everyone and whom all the girls want to fuck I just get reminded that I'm a piece of shit
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>>388534308
>What do people see in Majikoi?
Great comedy (pretty subjective though, I guess), likeable characters despite the lack of depth, great art and designs (especially when compared to most other VNs), an all star VA cast, etc

It's not really something you read for a gripping story, it's just fun times, cool bros and cute waifus.
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>>388515940
am currently reading aiyoku no eustia, but in nip so i'm going at a very slow pace
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>>388535181
Whoops, meant for >>388534957

>>388535239
Chichi Miko is an adult, or at least high school aged. It's been a while, but I remember him not being a shota at least. I was just giving you another rec with Oneechan hunters.
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>>388535273
It's not bait; these idiots actually think this shit.
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>>388535370
Might wanna try Sekien no Inganock then, although that one needs a walkthrough because the minigame to progress without the bad end is just a convoluted trial and error mess. It's kind of shoddily drawn, but has a great atmosphere and setting.
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>>388534454
Definitely Danganronpa if you want hands on mystery. Sequel is even better.
9 doors 9 hours 9 people is also a great pick.
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>>388515940
Fata Morgana. It was pretty good, thanks again random anon, who insisted that I need to continue reading.
>>388526510
Giselle's design and character works so much for me, I love it. Green eyes, black hair and that haircut is perfect.
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I like mystery and detective shit. What should I play next. Already done the normal one like AA and Junko.
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>>388529840
dude go read UBW and HF he's the farthest thing from that
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>>388535937
Umineko, but be careful, it's a play on the detective tropes in the second part, and one could leave unsatisfied because of that and some other things
Still, it's a one-of-a-kind ride and experience in the first half
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>>388536121
pls emiya is as shounen as shounen gets in every route. name one thing that he does that a typical shounen protag would never do
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>>388536402
Letting Sakura kill hundreds of people is not shounen at all
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>>388535937
>>388536312
Umineko isn't even remotely a detective VN. It's mystery but nothing like Junko's wildride or AA.

But if you are okay with that, Higurashi is good too.

Or:
>>388534815
>>388534914
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>>388536402
>missing the point of his character
Like, the whole point is to show how fucking insane your generic shonen character really is. They are fucked up in the head.
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Katawa Shoujo. I've made a huge mistake /v/.
>Play KS on a personal challenge that I won't feel anything because I can separate fiction from reality
>Pick Lilly. I like her design the most and I like her in general from the first impression. If I'm going to do this, might as well go all the way.
>giving her the music box after the touching scene with Hanako and the bear
>her genuine concern and moments of somber when you forget your meds and collapse on the walk
>getting confessed to, and Haiso confesses back
>that passionate sex
>pick up the family summons thing before it gets revealed but still hits like a truck
>watching her in frustration when she gets knocked down by Kenji and her emotions from the whole family summons thing boils over
>saying goodbye
>mfw her crying over Haiso when he almost dies trying to reach her at the airport
>mfw this is nothing like my FE girls
>mfw I've never felt this alone in my life
Are there even girls like Lilly anymore? That gentle, loving, genuine concern for others? I've not seen anything like that in my life, let alone my age group of early 20s. I hope to god I find someone after I get my ass out of this shitty community college and into a real university.

What has this game done to me? Almost overnight I no longer just want a pair of tits and ass. I want someone real. Someone who cares for me and I can care back. I hope to god this goes away in a few days because I'm genuinely sad and have been for the past 5 days.
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>>388535461
Not him, but do you have another recommendation for Mother-son incest? The girls in Chichi turn me off with their bomb tits.
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>>388536589
You fucked up. You tasted the delicious fruit of 2D.
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>>388536589
/ksg/ is that way you flaming manbaby
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>>388536402
>emiya is as shounen as shounen gets
He wishes
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where do i download vn lads
its been years since i bothered with one
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999, it was pretty fun.
Not sure if play DR2 or VLR after finishing sengoku rance. I have already started DR2 but I dropped the game after chapter 1, the case solution made me mad of how bullshit it was.
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>>388536895
Sukebei chad-kun
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>>388536692
>The girls in Chichi turn me off with their bomb tits.
What's it like being gay? Here you go https://vndb.org/g650 I haven't played too many to be honest. I've been on a trap kick lately, and I love anything from Lupiesoft. But now that I know some basic moon and have a text hooker set up, i might be able to get more.
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>>388537103
How is Sengoku that you are currently playing? Gameplay and ''''PLOT'''' wise?
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Zero Time Dilemma. It was kinda meh.
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>>388537183
>not liking grotesque deformed bodies means you're gay
I'm sorry, I just got over my "make every sexual feature as big as possible because that's what being sexy means" phase when I was 13.
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>>388536402
Threatens to kill his love interest and 100% means it because she's endangering his onee-san
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>>388537487
It was a joke, not the protagonist's dick. Don't take it so hard.
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>>388537103
Definitely play DR2. It only gets better and of course the first trial is the weakest like last game.

VLR is great too. So play both. DR2 > VLR though.
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Post physicals
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>>388537487
LOL I respect that
>>388537594
That was not even me answering kek. I like big but not that unrealistically big I guess.Thanks for the links anons. Not sure which one to pick, might as well just random pick one then.
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Ever17.

It was fantastic. Greatest twist of all time.
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>>388537890
>LOL
>kek
>that entire post
Is /v/ like this everyday?
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>>388538040
Why is she in a washing machine?

Also, now you can read the Zero Escape games and hate them because the twists are literally just recycled from Ever17.
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>>388537226
Gameplay is a turn based strategy, the objective is to conquer all of japan (the picture is the overral map).
Story is quite simple and fun if you don't get triggered by Rance(MC) libido and violence
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>>388538067
Indeed LOL kek
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>>388538067
Did you just wake up from a coma?
/v/ has been shit for a long time
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>>388538343
I don't browse /v/ a lot, just came here for the VN thread.
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>>388538190
I went through ZE before E17. And yeah, the twists are similar. Not the same, but definitely the same style. I didn't see it coming in E17 though, I thought it would be different.
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Hey, can somebody sauce me on a place to download Chaos;Head?
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>>388538205
>Story is quite simple and fun if you don't get triggered by Rance(MC) libido and violence
And best girl being gangraped
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>>388537638
I liked 999 better than DR1 because it was frustrating to not understand what happened with Naegi and everyone else.
Are the presents in DR2 as usefull as in DR1?
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>>388538739
If you didn't fap to Kou's scene you're a fucking casual
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>>388535417
The 2nd chapter and first half of the 3rd chapter might be a bit boring, but the last half of the VN is worth it
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>>388535047
Meant for >>388534705
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>>388538739
Even Rance get pissed off in this scene, it was pretty rough.
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>>388532358
I quite liked it. Saw the twist coming way too early though. I knew what was up while they were eating ice cream. Felt like the author didn't expect people to think she'd go that far and banked a little too hard on that expectation.
Everything would've been a little more cohesive if the dad was estranged from the family and had come back to visit them, and they cut out the supernatural element. Him not recognizing her was extremely farfetched no matter how much she isolated herself in her room.
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VN thread in /v/? Neat
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>>388539519
Everyone in these threads has shit taste but me.
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>>388537698
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>>388533348

This was surprisingly good and also pretty scary. All of the branching story points are pretty impressive given how different each character's chapter can play out.
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Guys I just want to have a nice fap. What VN has masterpiece hscene art?
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>>388537698
Any good places to get physicals as an American? I mostly use Mandarake, but they don't have everything and I actually haven't tried getting 18+stuff from them, so I'm not sure if my card will work. I'd love a copy of musumaker.
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>>388540430
>fapping to pictures
>not the situation
pleb
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>>388540662
>import musumaker
>become butt buddies with christopher handley
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>>388523672
>he doesnt grind palaces and mementos
noob
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The greatest kamige of all time is comming in 3 days. Are you ready?
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>>388523183
Any notable differences/complaints?
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>>388541093
does it involve footjobs?
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>>388538823
Wait did they finish the fan translation?
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>>388515940
Game?
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>>388538773
Yea, 999 is slightly better than DR1
But you know: DR1,2,3 is a complete story so everything is answered.

Presents are useful in DR2, yes.
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>>388538190
>>388538537
I too did ZE first and then Ever17 (I didn't have a choice in the order) and like both.
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>>388515940
>tfw just finished OPpic and have no one to discuss it with
Life is the truly suffering
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>>388541938
>>388538537
Guys I just finished the 999 series. Is it worth it playing E17? Are twist literally the same time bullshit again? I am finding 999 series just ok, not great not shit.
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Marina's Cuckolding Reports.

Yeah it was pretty good.
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>>388542386
No, it's not the TWISTS that are the same really. It's certain themes. I'd say... go for it?
No need to repeat puzzles afterall. And you can hit skip over similar lines.
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majikoi. the quality drop in majikoi s was quite shocking. but eh, stuff like that really only works once. wanko is cute in her study outfit tho
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ENGLISH EDITION WHEN
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VLR, it was pretty good
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Man, VNs with voice acting sure do take 3 times longer to get through. I'm 15 hours into F/SN and I'm only on the 6th day. Apparently there are 20 in the Fate route alone, so what the fuck. I'm thinking about turning them off, but the voicework is pretty good, so...
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Dies Irae. It sucked.
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>>388543078
F/SN has bigger word count than Lord of the Rings trilogy
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>>388542951
S is just a fandisk, it's not supposed to be as "good" as the original. I guess it's kind of in an awkward position since it's not like the original Majikoi was a super serious story driven VN in the first place, so it's not as obvious a transition as going from Muv Luv Alternative to Altered Fable, for example.
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>>388543351
Na-nani
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>>388543045
ENGLISH EDITION WHEN
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>>388523183

Are CHOMP and twizzlers still in the game? I'm expecting the former but thinking they'd have changed the latter completely.
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>>388543078
>listening to the VA
F/SN wordcount is fucking massive. That's not a good thing. Much of it is a complete slog. Don't torture yourself by listening to the voices.
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>>388543675
Maybe I'll just turn em on for battles. That's definitely good advice though. It's not like I'm in a huge hurry to finish it, but I also don't wanna burn out.
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>>388542386
I'd say yes. It's long and there sometimes is a lot of filler, but the conclusion and main twist makes it all worth it.
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>>388543626
They said Little Busters English Edition would be out around the end of August. They have 3 days. There's been no word, no Steam page, nothing. This is killing me.
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>>388542386
I played Ever17 after I'd already played 999, and I thought it was incredible. The game will trick you into thinking "oh, it's the same twist as 999 or VLR" but actually, there's some even crazier shit going on right below the surface. There's only one twist I really remember being recycled, but other than that the finale will seriously blow your mind.
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>>388543860
The ecstasy one?
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That game with the cripples and retards from years back

it was ok I guess
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>>388543747
>not pacing your reading in a way that let's you read the dialogue but continue whenever there is a slight pause in the voice acting
Best of both worlds
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>>388538739
I find it hilarious when people complain about mary sue and gary stu characters in VN's and at the same time praise Rance who is by far the largest fucking gary stu imaginable.
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>>388543747
What the hell dude? You don't have to turn off the voices, just don't wait for them to finish. Reading with or without voice acting shouldn't make any difference in the time it takes you, you can just let the voice play while you're reading and cut it short when you want to move on. If there's a climactic moment where you do want to listen to the voice acting fully you can wait then, but no one waits for every single voiced line to finish playing.
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>>388543959
Sort of. English Edition is the translated version of the Perfect Edition, which contained all the improvements made to the Ecstasy Edition and Perfect Edition, minus the sex scenes. Which I'm okay with, Key sex scenes are pretty mediocre. I already have the CGs saved anyway.

I just want to experience the new routes and the route improvements since Ecstasy never got a translation. Till now, of course.
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>>388515940
It's been a while.
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>>388544054
Which is longer Umineko or Fate with all the route?
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>>388544041

because hes an alpha that rapes girls. Most other stus are just generic boring guys.
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>>388544153
Pretty sure it's umineko
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>>388515940
Sakura Swim Club

It was shit.
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>>388544159
That doesn't make him stop being a gary stu and those that praise him, hypocrites.
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>Rewrite longer than Fate/Stay Night
It sure as hell didn't feel like it
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>>388544132
Can t wait for Kiniku Kiniku Yay Yay~

I'm fact, there's too much to look forward to. Baseball game, kick the can, called game, hunting the mysterious creature, teasing Sasasa, and then refrain.
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>>388544140
Mio is the best girl, better than those Eva characters who somehow lost and found their way to this game. But Misato teacher is hot af.
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>>388544459
Hey. I'm a huge Key fan. But I gotta know. Is Rewrite gonna make me cry?

I don't really play visual novels that don't emotionally obliterate me. And I've held off on Rewrite since I've read that it's not a super sad thing.

>>388544494
I played the original fan translation of the OG Little Busters and it's absolutely wonderful. So I can't either. Plus it's gonna be in HD. And I'm really looking forward to Futaki and Sassassasssasasassaasami's routes, as well as finding out who the hell Saya is and what her deal is.
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>>388544140
Hold the fuck up
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Alice in Immoral Land. Before that, Haiiro no Sora ni Ochita Tsubasa. Dual Tail makes some amazing eroge.
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>>388544529
Mio, you say?
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>>388544776
>huge Key fan
>Is Rewrite gonna make me cry?
That goes without saying but I have to admit it made less emotional than rest of the Key stuff so you have heard somewhat right.
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>>388544776
Rewrite is tragic but not sad. Lots of bad stuff happens but it wasn't as demolishing as Clans and LB. Also the ending is great and connects all Key game universes. Worth playing.
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>>388544459
>higurashi is longer than Umineko
Fuck, Umineko feels much longer because of the shitty slogs.
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When's the H-Patch coming for Chuuni Irae ? I refuse to play it until I get that.
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a while ago i got that vn bundle from humble bundle, tho i don't know, which one of these is actually worth my time?

http://www.ricedigital.co.uk/humble-sekai-project-bundle-visual-novels/

got the full package
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>>388545049
>>388545141

Harmonia didn't make me cry. That VN was fucking trash. But I've heard the Kotori route will probably make me cry, but the others not so much. It wasn't listed as a Nakige on VNDB which is mainly what I look for.
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>>388526510
>>388535732
if I get the steam version, is there any cut content I have to find a patch for?
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>>388544459
Looking at this is kind of amazing. I've read a considerable number of the longest games ever written, multiple times for some of them.
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>>388545287
Kotori is the saddest, I'd agree.

>Harmonia didn't make me cry. That VN was fucking trash
Well fuck you fellow Key fag. I liked it. But if I'd compare it to Rewrite, I'd say Harmonia was sadder so I don't know if you are going to like Rewrite that much. Of course there is a lot of more to enjoy in Rewrite than the saddness.
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>>388544828
Yep, that's them all right. Also in the game: four Evangelion characters (the three girls that matter + that one kid with glasses) and some Pia Carrot and Saint Tail characters I didn't really recognize.

>>388544529
Ah, I see you are a gentleman of taste.
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>>388545431
_No
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>>388545241
Anon, I'm sorry, they're all trash except
>– Idol Magical Girl Chiru Chiru Michiru Part 1

But you need to play Grisaia before it. You could play Nekopara I guess if you can turn your brain off.
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Last book I read was that fucking goldfish book, haven't read anything after that. Should really start reading, though since I have all the time in the world.
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>>388545236
Never ever. Not even memeing
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>>388545639
The one where he gives his scales to everyone so they can be pretty too?
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>>388545504
Did you at least enjoy Kanon or Air, if you played them?

Air made me cry like a bitch a few times. Goddamn despite the 2deep4u mystical shit, it was so good.
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>>388545845
But why? Wasn't it planned?
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>>388545598
then my path is clear
the art alone makes me really interested, and the description only makes makes me more excited
thanks for turning me on to this
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>>388545505
Her ending fulfilled my innocent first time sex fantasies. Clearly it's better and more rewarding than Asuka's ending. I think I'll replay it again.
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What am I in for?
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Going to start the pic related today, what I'm in for?
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>>388545905
Actually, I haven't. Not sure why. I really should read them too. How are they compared to Planetarian?

>despite the 2deep4u mystical shit,
I'm already expecting Key magic in Key stuff.
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Uncharted 4
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>>388545860
Yup, that's the one.
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>>388545960
They chickened out. Simple as that.
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>>388546098
Don't miss Zach Synder's gritty movie version of it in 2019.
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>>388543626
Are there any english reviews at least? Feedback? I remember their plan to release the various parts as years go by, I guess at this point they are done.
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>>388546071
Planetarian made me cry too, and Clannad made me cry the most. But I'd put Air as the second most emotional visual novel they've made. But listen, there's Key magic, and then there's Air. It's got THE most Key magic of all the VNs, but its' all still lore abiding so I found it easy enough to accept.

As for Kanon, I think Kanon is a better visual novel overall. There's less Key magic but the route's aren't as emotional as Air. Ayu is best Key girl though.

The only downsides to either of them are piss poor resolution and the fact that the artist wasn't as nearly refined as she is now so you're gonna have to get used to the art. Imagine Clannad, but worse. I like the art style but it took getting used to before I did.
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>>388546203
>Would there really be a God if people with no pretty scales existed?
>Obvious Jesus imagery
Yeah, I'm hyped.
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>>388546604
That's even better than the shit I was thinking about.
I might actually go see it now.
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>>388521238
Kino means cinema in my language, so eat a dick.
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>>388546578
Ayu is probably best main girl. She should be shit tier but she really does amazing.

But I probably would pick Tomoyo for all time best.
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>>388544408
Because Rance is an actually amusing and likable character with a hilariously disgusting personality despite his Stu traits. How is that in any way hard to grasp?
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>>388546578
> Imagine Clannad, but worse
Awww fuck. I really don't like Clannad's art to be honest.
Eh, I'll at least give Kanon and Air a try.
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>>388546823
>doesn't like Clannad's art
Oh man, that's the high point. It's all downhill from there.
But come on, you can get past bad art. I wouldn't call Kanon or Clannad's art BAD, just... not super.
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>>388546806
My post apparently was too difficult for you to grasp, I wasn't asking why people like him. I was stating that complaining about gary studom while liking a gary stu is hypocrisy.
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>>388546795
I disagree, but respect your opinion as Tomoyo is a good girl that they completely fucked up in Tomoyo After and made her some baka tsundere

>>388546823
Yeah, what the dude below you said. It's just "not super". It doesn't detract from all the emotional moments and whatnot. This is Key we're talking about. They're gonna get you attached to the characters and rip your heart out whether you like the art or not
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>>388547139
>that they completely fucked up in Tomoyo After and made her some baka tsundere
It's not that bad overall. She's really cute and funny honestly. I wouldn't even call her baka or tsundere. Just horny. She's too aggressive though; I think that's why you are calling her a tsundere.
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>>388546995
No, my point is that there isn't anything hypocritical about liking a decent character just because if him having traits generally associated with horrible characters.
By and large, Gary Stus/Mary Sues are indeed shit because their traits are generally a result of bad writing. That doesn't mean said traits can't be written well or liking said traits when they're done so and not when they're not somehow makes you a hypocrite.
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>>388547240
I haven't played through the English Edition yet with the adult content cut out but in the OG version she's a total tsundere, ESPECIALLY when lewd stuff is concerned. It was kind of jarring.

You're right on being too aggressive though. It gets almost nonsensical sometimes.
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>>388516704
I've been looking for this pic everywhere
Thanks
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Saya no Uta. I'd played VNs before but had actually never touched that one despite it always being recommended as a first. It was a pretty decent story, just wish it was longer. I wasn't really scared by it despite a few people telling me how grotesque it would be, but I did find a few parts kind of unnerving. Also I haven't had nightmares in forever but that one ending where Koji goes insane gave me one that was pretty similar to his ending.
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>>388515940
Juniper's Knot.
Only VN I ever finished because it's longer than the whole A song of ice and fire saga in audiobook format (and that's not even an exaggeration)
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>>388547669
>knot
OwO
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>>388546698
Well, here it's a meme
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Does anyone else find VN openings really hype? Even though they're just a bunch of still images being flashed around with the minor animation, for some reason they always make me really want to play the game.
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>>388547714
GB2/d/
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Where can I download VNs?
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>>388547784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLDI9QuukGU

I sure fucking do
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Kikokugai is pure cuckge kino.
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>>388547860
sukebei.nyaa.si
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>>388517891
>>388521238
Looks incredibly homogay.
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>>388547860
Here:
http://erogedownload.com/downloads/
100% free.

It includes eroges with all H scenes but also has 100% sex free games like Ever17 and Zero Escape, and similar. So the name is a bit fake.


Anyone play Little Witch Romanesque? How do I get all H scenes? I did all the girls routes according to walkthroughs but I'm missing like 10 more.
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>>388547784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qiQbOUfdS0
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>>388545963
Just so you know, Door 2 is the lowest point of the VN because finding the twist(each door has one) is hard on your first reading and not that surprising
Also during door 4 check the backlog regularly starting right after you enter it
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>>388547887
>tfw somebody spoiled the ending for me on /a/ back when the anime aired
Is it still worth a read?
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>>388547860
fakku forums specifically for VN's can have links for download for most novels.
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>>388548294
All this.
3>1>2
5>all
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>>388548314
Absolutely. It's easily the best collection of stories about friendship and romance I've ever fuckin read. You can call me biased because I'm a Keyfag but I'm hyped for this English release in particular for a reason.

The true ending is hella elaborated on in the VN, plus all the other routes have really good endings as well. I can't recommend it enough.
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>>388545141
>ending connects Key universe
Elaborate, I finished it but don't understand what are you talking about
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>>388547784
Some are the hypest shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgVcXpEj-No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1rH_0ManE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S07QsIF8Lc
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>>388520318
best girl
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>>388523034
i bet you don't even like transformers you nerd
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>>388515940
Dies Irae, I liked it alot it's in my top 3. 1 WEEK NOW BOYS
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>>388548251
The multi part really is killing me anon.
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>>388549162
I am still salty this got no pc version considering it start from Pc.
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>>388549248
Oh, don't complain. It's 100% free and takes max an hour for 10+ downloads.
But another anon gave you a torrent site, you could use that as well.
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Is Tear to Tiara 2 considered a VN?
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>>388535190
>i lack the basic pattern recognition to see what these posts have in common
you must be 18 etc etc
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The best VN i played and also the only one was unteralterbach.
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It was surprisingly funny
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#3350
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What are some VN's with some really fucked up subject matter?

The more soul-crushing the better
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>>388536895
steam
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>>388550161
What is she doing with that gel-banana?
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>>388549884
Yea, I like it alot. It's really well done. Hell, the fact I can like it and it not having any H scenes or a sister route is impressive.
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>>388543626
i saw some gameplay of this and it seemed really grating that they reuse the anime OST since i've already heard it so much. is there any original music?
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>>388550079
Fraternite
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bible black, got bad ending 6.
Seems like a pretty nice way to go imo
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>>388550491
>kissing
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>>388544776
Rewrite just made me feel terribly depressed, not particularly sad
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>VN thread
>half the thread is Fatefags defending Nasu's hack writing
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>>388546014
The fact that it is possible to trace every single thing that went wrong in these people's lives back to one person
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>>388550249
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us_KfKk_xCc
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>>388548251
>I did all the girls routes according to walkthroughs but I'm missing like 10 more.
Been a while, but I remember some scenes are locked behind certain dice rolls if that helps. Like there's one where one of the girls goes through a wall, but gets stuck partway and you fuck her while she's trapped.
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>>388551105
Gelbananaphonewave? (Name subjected to change)
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>>388551391
>fuck her while trapped
No, that's a spell and you don't fuck her. Just simple molest.
If you could find out, I'd be happy. Google gives nothing.
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>>388542472
I read someone's explanation on why they're a cuck, and they said it's the idea that someone's sexually satisfying their girl better than they can, but the girl still loves and chooses the cuck anyway. Since that's also the premise of Marina's cuckolding reports, I'm inclined to believe that reasoning. But then that brings up the question of the differences between love sex and affection, and I still haven't managed to sort through that.
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>>388551656
Ah, sorry, like I said it's been a while. I remember there are some combinations too, like if both girls get the levitate spell. If it's not that, and if the walkthrough doesn't help, then I'm not sure I can help you any more either, sorry.
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>>388551998
You aren't dispelling my rage that easy Mitsukifag
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>>388549248
One I kinda like is onlyhgames.com It uses mega links, so even multipart things are easy. Lots of untranslated ones there. I'm building up my vn collection while I learn moon.
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>>388550491
How's the scat scenes? I'm not a big fan of just watching a girl take a dump, but if it's incontinence during sex or torture, I'm fine with that.
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>>388552174
Apparently the mods have great taste
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>>388552185
I like gdrive. Didn't Mega now have 5gb limit? Hoe did you people bypass it? My jdownloader do nothing.
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>>388552296
On panda scat is explicitly referring to poop. There's a separate urination tag
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>>388552465
Some of the uploads there have gdrive too. Honestly, Mega's limit is high enough that I've only hit it a couple times and just deal with it when it happens, but I'm sure there's a way around it. Either way, onlyhgames is still one of the better non-torrent sites I've found.
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>>388523976
Tfw still need to play it
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>>388549875
Good tastes.
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So what's the deal with Dies Irae?

Sounds like edgy shounenshit but some people keep shilling it here.
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>>388552881
Is one the best chuunige translated so far and blows every other work from it's genre out of the water.
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>>388552026
Damn, oh well.
I have basically 100% completion except the H scenes... I just don't get it.
All girls had all spells by the end.
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>>388553142
Why did it still uses that old ass vn presentation? Totally can't see the art.
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>>388552881
some homo visual novel that got translated recently
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>>388547860
If it's old and not in english then LITERALLY NO FUCKING WHERE

GOD WHY DOES NO ONE SAVE THEM
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>>388552881
>Sounds like edgy shounenshit
It is and only chuunifags think it's good
Music is good,characters are shit without depth,story is a mess and fight scenes are longer than FSN cooking scenes
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>>388553142
That's not saying much when 99% of VNs are trash
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>>388553580
>chuuni
I hate it. Steins Gate showed me how much I can hate something. Of course, the game was great and even the chuunyi shit was redeemed but man, I was so angry at the beginning.
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>>388553852
Okabe is literally retarded. To this day I still don't understand his chuuni shit. It was so random and he also randomly drop it sometimes. What the fuck is his deal?
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>>388552881
>Sounds like edgy shounenshit
It is, but lots of people are into that sort of stuff, apparently.
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>>388554039
Don't worry. He completely drops the chuuni act and tries to be a normal university student in 0.
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>>388554039
Ah, I'll explain it. It's not a gamechanging spoiler but it is revealed.

When Mayuri loses her grandmother, she basically never speaks for 6 months. Okabe remembers they used to watch a tv show together where a mad scientist kidnaps a girl. So Okabe pretends to be that mad scientist and kidnap Mayuri so she'll open up and be happy again. That's the reason he's like this: for Mayuri

The amount of chuunyi shit goes down over time so it's worth suffering
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>>388553580
Upset surface level reader spotted.
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>>388554039
I think the idea was "what if one of those looney fucks who keep going on about hidden mysteries and conspiracies actually found himself getting involved in some legitimately insane flat earther tier conspiracy featuring fucking CERN and time travelling microwaves" but the character then got taken way too far beyond any believability because anime.
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>>388554264
What? But Mayuri is also confuse at why he was so weird. And he also do that when Mayuri is not with him.
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>>388554362
>eight (8) hours later the dies shitposter is still making the same low effort shitposts in the same thread
Can't help admiring your dedication
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>>388516302
Damn, just finished that too. The sidegirls were so amazing I felt retroactive disgust for the maingirls. They felts a lot more like people with their own thing and kind of accidently fall onto your dick rather than being passive dick receptacles like the main girls are. Only ayaka managed to stack up against the sidegirls.
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>>388554602
What nothing.
He started to pretend to make Mayuri happy.
Mayuri is an idiot, friend. Cute, but so dumb.
And Okarin just never turns off his chunnyibayo unless it's serious. It's devoted to it for Mayuri.
I don't think he does it even 0.0001% of the time when he tries to save her in all the chapters.
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>>388553276
better than the ones where the bottom of the screen is blocked

>>388554602
all his friends except Daru and Mayuri only liked him because of his persona in the first place
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>>388526729
Anon, dont you have a bunch of sequels and spinoffs to play
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>>388515940
Jacopo a best
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>>388554848
No, I mean he also do this chuuni thing with Kurise, Luka, and Nyan Nyan when Mayuri is not around with him. How is this for Mayuri?
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>>388555152
He doesn't turn it off, I'm saying. He grew up doing it so he just keeps it up.

I'm 100% sure about the origins of it and I'm fairly certain about why he keeps it up with others.
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>>388553580
>characters are shit without depth
This is simply untrue. A single side villain in Dies Irae has more characterization than some MCs in most works.
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>>388554989
Stop posting Jacopo
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>>388548586
When will the steam version get released ? i heard something about end of august but it's already end of august and there's still no information about it
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>>388515940
Rebellions secret game 2nd stage
It was way better than killer queen, that's for sure. Didn't expect my favorite character to end up being the piece of shit drug dealer.
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>Play a VN
>almost beat it without any spoilers
>Google one of the characters to get a picture
>an unrelated character is among the pictures, spoiling the game a bit
How the fuck does this happen. It's not even the right character.
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>>388555450
It's the only part of that post that isn't true though. The characters and the writing are honestly the only good things in Dies Irae.
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>>388555473
What is this
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>>388548586
Little busters is garbage besides the Common route, Rin and Refrain.
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SUKISUKI FUCKING WHEN?
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>>388554362
>Haha there's so much depth you're just too dumb to see it xD

Confirmed garbage since you can never give actual arguments.
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>>388555865
One of the few pieces of decent fanart I found on pixiv
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Please Bang my Guillotine!
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>>388556308
But why would he get hit? He dindu nuffin in door 3
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WHO HOMOGE HERE
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>>388556407
No clue since I don't understand moonrunes
I just thought it was funny so I saved it
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>>388556578
Is Moon rune of of the 27 true rune? Who is the wielder?
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>>388555807
The OST is also pretty cool, although I didn't expect a chuuni edgefest to have so many corny insert songs.
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>>388556724
What?
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>>388555807
>main point of the VN are the writing and the characters
>those are the only good things

So it did its main job then?
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>>388556578
Would you bacon Morgana?
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dies shill if you're still here did the 18+ patch ever actually come out or did they take the money and run
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>>388556578
>crazy Pauline
if only, then I could put the game somewhere in my top 10 because the worst thing about it has slightly more dimension to it
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>>388545845
>>388546102
>>388556989
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>>388548767
The timeline that Kotarou finds that saved the world is the same one that contains the canon endings for Clannad and Little Busters. It's the one where everyone is happiest and people connect the most.
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>>388546203
Damn, my mom read that for me like 5 times when I was young, loved it.
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>>388556851
Sure? Doing its job doesn't mean it's good though.

The LDO are generally cool and interesting (and some of them are even D E E P) but that's pretty much it. Cool characters doing and saying cool things for a few dozen hours. The story is a mess like that other anon said, and in the end there's no real point. No central theme to any of the stuff going on, no big message to take away from the whole experience. Just a bunch of cool characters, cool scenes, cool dialog, kinda-cool-but-definitely-less-cool-than-the-other-stuff fights, a boatload of literary references that ultimately amount to nothing and are just there to look cool, and a particularly cancerous shitposter who'll no doubt reply to this post with a one line insult and a Dies Irae screencap in a few minutes.
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>>388556763
>>388555807
Pretty much this >>388556851

A visual novel with good writing, good characters, good OST is well deserved of being a top tier one, since it did what was aiming to achieve while being really entertaining and interesting.
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This thread is fun. Someone do a new thread. Fuck yeah
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>>388557743
Fair enough.

>and a particularly cancerous shitposter who'll no doubt reply to this post with a one line insult and a Dies Irae screencap in a few minutes.

Thanks for the laugh >>388557797.
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>>388557797
What the actual fuck is this writing.
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>>388515940
>Steins;Gate 0
not bad but I liked the original much better
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>>388558049
Dies Irae's """""""good"""""" writing.

It's chuunishit, being overly pompous and "epic" is the whole point.
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>>388546203
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>>388558507
>>388558507
>>388558507
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>>388558496
Typical Hollywood.

too bad I'm observance. Reef vs THE Reef. So close to being a great joke
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>>388544529
Nigga the whole cast of the game are parodies of anime characters of the time.

>Aki, Ruri, Sensei
Eva
>Seia, Meiya
St Seiya
>Mio, Kiyomi, Reiko
Magic Knights Rayearth
>principal and your Dad
Tenchi Muyo.
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I loved Katawa Shoujo back in the day, made me cry like a bitch. Any recomendations? Someone recomended me one by the name of fruit something but i can't remember
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>>388557797
>first fucking line of german is mistranslated
Incredible. Where did they get sleepless? It's fine to power it up to please chuunis, but the phrase is literally just "In the dark, where all sleep."
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>>388558767
House in Fata Morgana for maximum crying
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>>388558767
That was probably Grisaia, but you shouldn't read it because it's garbage.
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>>388558767
Fruit of Grisala I'm guessing.


Read Clannad though.
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>>388558950
They're not translating the german, they're translating the Japanese that was """"translated"""" from German by the Japanese writer whose understanding of any western language is basically "latin characters look pretty cool I guess".
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Is The House in Fata Morgana worth it?
It's on sale on steam. It's not censored or anything?
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