>PC will never ever get big budget exclusives that enticed

>>388464221
Not enough money in it, and the technical differences between PC and console gaming are too minute for most casual gamers.

you killed crytek

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2007 happened.

>>388465434
So then what does that make Left 4 Dead?

>>388464221
Rather than have dumb AAA games, PC just gets games that are good and let that speak for themselves.

>>388464221
that is literally the only game you know of that did that

>>388465656
I think Oblivion was the same when it came out.

>>388465568
The beginning of co-op cancer being shoved down every game.

>>388464221
Increasing drive towards better profit margins for major developers has lead to increasing attempts to garner the mass market at the expense of everything else.

This doubles down the fact that there's little reason to push titles that focus on technical innovation, unless they're being backed by a company with a vested stake in that (i.e. they're a console exclusive).

Instead we get shitty optimised console ports and just poorly optimised games in general.

>what is ARMA III?
>what is Elite Dangerous?
>what is Star Citizen?

>>388465434
i'd say 2007 was the last good year before it all turned to shit in 2008. halo 3 was a fucking great game. shivering isles was fantastic, still the best expansion/DLC for any game ever. gen 4 pokemon was the last fun gen imo. assassin's creed 1 was pretty good, that series only got shit w/ brotherhood imo.

>>388464221
>>PC will never ever get big budget exclusives that enticed you to beef your build ever again

It's a retarded idea in the first place. You intentionally limit the potential buyers for your game.

>>388464221
>>388465656
>>388465786

I remember it used to be a big deal if you could max out UT2K4
HOLY SHIT

>>388465975
According to 4chan posters who claimed to be gamedevs. 2007 is around the time when lefties started infiltrating video games.
Take it with a grain of salt, but I am willing to believe it.

>>388465786
oblivion and halo 3 got me so, so hyped for the (then) new gen. no game was nearly as exciting this gen. gaming really has gone to shit since.

>>388465786
Oblivion ran on fucking toasters at the time. The minimum requirement was a pentium 4 CPU. I remember playing Oblivion smoothly at medium settings on a shitty prebuilt Dell.

>>388465975
>ywn have this much nostalgia faggotry inside you
i'm glad

>>388464221
We want more mone happened. Optimizing took a way up due to consoles but console ports are much easier to create in 2017 because it fundamentally functions the same as a normal x64 PC but just coded slightly differently. Kinda sad but at the same time... damn... I will never live a time again where a simple game created a "But does it run Cuntis?" meme that blew the fuck up and is still widely used even today (even tho jokingly).

>>388465881
Most Console ports run way better on PC than consoles.
Other than Batman i cant think of one game that truly had worse performance on PC.
And even that game was patched reverentially so now its runs fine.

People like to use Dishonored 2 for instance as a bad port but that game literally had sub 30 fps on consoles.
While on PC it only dipped below 60 in rare situations even then it was not sub 30.

>>388466156
i didn't really notice politics being pushed into games until at the earliest 2010. games just got shit in terms of substance and general quality.

>>388466338
Lol, you clearly only had your PC like last year, shit like SR2 was unplayable

If Johnny Gamer is interested in an AAA game 9 out of 10 times he's more likely to buy it for his BloodBorneStation instead of worrying about PC specs. Financially there's absolutely no reason to make today's equivalent of Crysis a PC exclusive instead of a multiplat.

Ambitious, demanding PC exclusives are a thing of the past, maybe except niche genres like sims (sims, not "The Sims").

>>388465656
FEAR comes to mind for the particle effects and the visceral feeling of the combat through pure visual kino.

Also Far Cry was a big deal when it came out.

>>388465806
But the way Left 4 Dead did it was perfect. TF2 felt like a rough concept, and Overwatch does nothing with the concept and recycles the formula. Left 4 Dead at least tried to make something original out, with a satirical, intentionally-cliche plot and setting, characters that look one-dimensional on the surface, and sound design that rivals the original Half Life.

Even MMO's and isometric RPG's get console releases now.

PC is still the objectively superior vidya platform, but no longer for its exclusive games.

>>388466484
That's how communism works - The long march.
Their ideals are usually pushed slowly and subtly.
Ever since the timeline got fixed, they started doubling down in their attempted commie takeover.

Be happy that GamerGate happened because it paved the way for people to wake up to attempted social engineering through vidya. Be proud that loser gamers were the first group of people to en masse reject their ideology.

>>388466490
Supreme commander was also unplybale on consoles.
And fallout 3 and Skyrim literally had game breaking save bugs once you play long enough.
And Last remenant had horrible texture pop in and load times and limited the amount of original characters you could use.
And dont get me started on how shitty dragon age origins was on consoles.

You argument is pointless because every platform has an occasional bad port its not a PC thing.

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>>388464221
Crysis series is the biggest wasted potential franchise.

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>>388467051
>>388467171
Looks like a fps version of Just Cause.

>>388465975

>assassin's creed 1 was pretty good

No it wasn't you fucking idiot

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>>388465434
This post is fucking stupid. Like I know gaming has been shit since around then but this is just a list of things people don't like, it's not a reason for why games, particularly Japanese ones, started sucking.

>>388464221
EA and other publishers halt progression so they can sell it later. Big business took over gaming, it's no longer about art or technology or whatever. It's mainly just money.

>>388467051
>>388467171
>have the time of my life playing Predator and fucking with the AI
>suddenly Aliens and im playing Halo
who thought this was a good idea and why did the entire series follow this shit direction

>>388467416
SMG looks better than RDR.
It's visuals are fluid and has no bugs out the ass and performance issues that RDR has.
Also, Galaxy has gameplay.

>implying cover shooting isn't barebones

>>388466794
Pity reply since you put some effort into that bait

>>388467569
that just means that any game designed to look realistic can never get a 10 and any game designed to look cartoony is basically guaranteed one.

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>>388464221
People figured that big budget multiplats that entice you to beef your build because they're insanely inefficient pieces of shit that crank up bleeding edge technology to 11 in order to make the game look 2% better (still mediocre) for a -30% performance difference.

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>>388465806
>co-op cancer
You can go ahead and fuck right off. There was a time when co-op was considered a gift from the gods. It will always be a welcome addition and you should be thankful more than one game a year has it.

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>>388467569
amazing that in 2017 people still have no concept of technology.

>>388467464

Fuck you the Aliens were fun and only like 10% of the game.

>>388467752
Yeah, but when games like Overwatch get lazy with it and then earn praise for ulterior reasons, you know that the best thing to do as a dev is to avoid it

>>388466972
>what is MGS2
>what is GTA 4 when it released on games for Windows
>what is Enslaved Odyssey to the West
>what is DMC3
>what is Res4
>what is The forced Unleashed

Yeah go take a hike newfag

>>388464221
do you retards realize that exclusives are ONLY a thing because company x pays the game developer to only publish the game on a certain platform ? who the hell is going to pay a game developer so they only publish on *PC* ?

>>388467752
>>388467751
Why

>>388467978
All of these are games that play better than the console versions except DMC3 unless you mod it then it's fine.

People forget GTA4 ran at like 15 fps on consoles with a 5 foot draw distance.

>>388468012
Image service/server fucked up for a moment there. Happened all over the board.

>>388467285
and i bet you've played them all like the whiny little faggot you are

This thread made me think PC people have a money extortion fetish, you're so damn happy to waste another k to upgrade your pc so you can play a shitty fps

>>388467932
I'm not saying every game gets it right, but I remember there was a long stretch of time (I think around the advent of Xbox Live) where co-op practically had to be modded into games, or you weren't getting it. Just because some devs fuck it up, or don't balance their priorities, doesn't mean the concept is the problem.

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>>388464221
>What the fuck happened?
Short answer: torrents.

Long answer: Microsoft gutted their stable of PC devs for the 360 launch. Now that consoles are the primary development target, nobody will put the effort in for good PC games outside of handful of AAA devs. Also, publishers hate the shit out of how easy to pirate it is despite the fact that most of it from 12 year olds and BRs.

>>388467979
>exclusives are ONLY a thing because company x pays the game developer to only publish the game on a certain platform
That's not really true. It costs money to port a game for different platforms, there's a lot of work revolving around licenses and shit so it's not like you can port your game to whatever platform for free. Some developers simply don't see the buyer potential in certain platforms to justify porting their games. A good example of that would be small niche japanese games being exclusive to sony platforms because porting them to the xbox would be fucking stupid because nobody would buy those games and the japanese audience which is their biggest target audience don't play on PC so they just put it on the PS3/PS4/Vita and localize to the west if there's any potential.

>>388468262
Not him, but 2 and Brotherhood are the only good Ass Creeds. I've played them all up until Unity. Actually people say Black Flag is good, but I was so burnt out after 3 that I couldn't get into it.

>>388465656
Deus Ex was another

>>388468657
sony did help lots of devs make their games, as long as it stayed on their platform though

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Gen 7.... those pathetic human beings who made fun of my hobby in the past, raided us and took over what they claimed was "nerdy" and turned it into their personal entertainment. I will never forgive them!

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>>388468465
FUCK I HATE BRAZIL

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I just wish consoles wouldn't hold back gaming so much, caring about exclusives is dumb.

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>>388468465
>Short answer: torrents.
stopped reading there

>>388469173
High cut leotards/swimsuits were always my top fetish
l will forever thank Yoko Taro for his gift to mandkind

>>388468465
>>388469137
Torrent any game and you will see that the majority of seeds and people downloading are americans.

>>388469173
>caring about exclusives is dumb.
I don't understand this logic. What's the point of having multiple consoles on the market if they all have the same fucking games? What's the point of having the console in the first place if everything releases on EVERYTHING? Why not just get a PC and remove the existence of consoles?

>>388468839
I don't think so. Deus Ex was considered kinda ugly, even then. To be fair, I remember the demo tanking my system, but I don't think it was something that people were running out to upgrade over.

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>>388469480
What's the point of consoles? It's just a scam at this point, there's very little reason for them and exclusives are almost completely anti-consumer.

>>388468991
Dying Light is good, fuck you.
It's a Gen 8 game, anyways.

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>>388469390
I did mention the 12 year olds, right? Actually, there a lot of college kids that do it despite the fact that the US gubment has been legally backdooring all the connections since 9/11.

>>388468691
Well 2 was a good improvement over 1, but 1 was really innovative and cool when it first came out. I hated Brotherhood because it was so cheap. "oh now you have to spend a whole other game as the same guy just so you can kill a guy who the last game forced you to spare FOR NO FUCKING REASON"

>>388465974
Not to mention Total War

>>388468991
this desu. there are no good new games these days. every game is just some crappy, worse clone of whatever popular snorefest came out 2 years before it.

>>388469865
No it wasn't, 1 made you do the same damn missions again and again, people who rate it over 2 are hipsters

>>388469775
How the fuck is it a "scam"? Not to mention, you are literally posting screenshots of a game that is NOT on the Xbox One or the Wii/Switch. Are you this fucking retarded? Let me guess, you're going to say "It's on PC" when we're talking about consoles?

You want to know why I own a PS4 and not a Xbox One? Because that shit doesn't have Japanese games. That is literally my one and only reason for not owning an Xbox One. I made that mistake with the Xbox360 and I wont do it again.

And yes, I have a PC too.

>>388469480
supposing you got a PC that could run oblivion at medium settings and medium performance in 2006. that same pc would be unable to run skyrim in 2011.

yet the xbox 360 was basically a pc that did just that. that was the one and only advantage of consoles before they started bringing out mid-gen updates(like Xbox One X, etc.), if you got a console at the start of a gen it could still run the newest games w/ good graphics and performance 5 years later. no worry about upgrading.

but now that you have to upgrade your console every 3 years anyway, there is no advantage to them anymore.

>>388470271
i explicitly said 2 was better.

>>388468991
>Battlefield 4
Why would you put the best Battlefield game in there? Why not BF3 or Hardline? Those games were absolute trash. Battlefield 4 after all the patches is almost perfect. I guess you're just hating it because it's popular to hate on FPS on /v/ nowadays.

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>>388470363
You seem confused. Settle down lad.

>>388470465
>w/ good graphics and performance 5 years later.
Well... Not quite. A lot of late gen last gen games ran at lower resolution and frames than prior releases. Like Demons Souls was 720 and Dark Souls was below that, not to mention the frame rate. That happened quite a bit.

>>388470363
At least you realized you don't need an xbone when you have a PC. All you need is Sony + a PC.

>>388465434
The big bang Theory also Started in 2007 and being "nerd" become cool. Comic books also went down the hole. specially marvel with Civi War and Siege/Dark Reign (06-07). infact since 07 the nerd culture have been getting the shaft because of the normalfaggotry. when the chad and stacy likes super heroes but the nerds don't you know there's something wrong.
Internet culture also started going to shit because the traffic got bigger but most of if only goes to sites owned by google or facebook. while before the traffic was smaller but people accessed different sites owned by different companies and with different culture. now it is all about acting as retarded as tv celebrities on reality shows

>>388470724
>You seem confused. Settle down lad.
>Nierfag
Literally no comeback. Don't even bother replying retard. The fact that you said that while posting an exclusive is hilarious.

>>388465656
Doom 3 had a optional download of better textures for people with the newer 512mb ram video cards.

>>388465974
>a shit game
>a shit game
>a shit game

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>>388471207
I think you're replying to the wrong person anon.

>>388465434
This is fucking retarded. Most of those games are good. I fail to see how iPhone and Facebook ruined gaming. 0/100 F--

>>388471708
>I fail to see how iPhone
mobile gaming ruined japan and a lot of western devs lunged into it too.

more money to be made and what not.

>>388471882
Because of microtransactions? Don't pay for them then.

>>388465434
This is retarded. Gaming fell apart way after 2007. Maybe around 2011. 2007 had a lot of classics.

>>388472082
What?

>>388469775
>>388469480
This is why everyone despises ignorant PC trojans. If niche Japanese games want to be successful they have to make it on Playstation consoles and it's been that way for decades and you wanna know why? Because console users actually purchase games. Look at the platform split on your favourite waifu sim Nier A, 1million copies sold on PS4, less than 400k sold on Neir. So if you wanna know why PS has a monopoly on Japanese games it's because they actually fucking buy and give a shit about them and care more for video games than loyalty to pc hardware. Now fuck off and go torrent more shit while I play a plethora of great Japanese games and you twiddle your thumbs while fondling havens balls you fucking PC trojan fanboys

>>388472232
I don't understand what you were trying to say. Bait?

>>388465596
PC has dumb AAA games that every platform has.

>>388472284
yeah, jrpgs especially used to thrive on ps2 and that's where most of these fags probably first got introduced to them.

>>388472284
Neir sold less on PC, but still sold copies. 400K PC gamers aren't pirates if they bought Nier.

Just because Neir sold less copies on PC, doesn't mean PC is inferior. Nier can be modded, used with any controller, and have better framerate and graphics. People really need to jump ship from console to PC.

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>>388472284
>>388472284
>ignorant PC trojans
>If niche Japanese games want to be successful they have to make it on Playstatio
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Putting aside the fact you've never played a truly niche Japanese game(because they're only available to PC), you need to get some self awareness. You're literally a retarded fanboy.

But Nier sold over 500k on PC and has nothing to do with this thread, hell it was made for PC then ported to consoles. I just wanted to post some 2B. Why in the fuck are you sperging about this?

>>388469173
>>388469775
>>388470724
I will never understand why people fall for this waifu baiting trash.
As a game it looks good, but this protag is just fucking shit. She's meant to be a robot, right? Why isn't she one?

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>>388472906
I will never understand why people are gay.

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>>388473097
>Not going for waifu trash makes you gay

>>388473305
Nah, you're just gay.

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>>388473305
>unable to understand the appeal of a round ass
>not gay
Pick one.
Also.
>game itself looks good
>you wonder why people play it

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I am enticed to beef my build by big budget multiplat games.

So not much changed other than that game development has become more homogenized.

>>388469480
The point is that they're supposed to try and make you want them based on their own merits. Make the hardware functionally unique and interesting.

>>388469890
This. There's no substitute for these games on consoles. Maybe it is one game series but it's one of my favorites and I'll be building a PC to play them for the foreseeable future.

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>>388472665
Most people first played a JRPG on a Nintendo platform.

>>388473870
Well I could just list the entire strategy genre but Total War is an easy pick.

>>388473558
>unable to understand the appeal of a round ass
>not gay
Has nothing to do with sexual attraction. It's the fact that it's a robot but looks nothing like a fucking robot.
What game is there were you can play as a fem robot that actually looks like one?
Also.
>game itself looks good
>you wonder why people play it
I assumed people here don't just play games based soley on how it looks.

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>>388473305
I'm on your side, friend. If I want ass and titties I'll look at porn. I don't care how many polygons you throw in the mix, I'm not 16 anymore, and that isn't going to do shit.

That said... pic related.

>game for windows live
It takes me back.

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>>388472665
And now I buy and play my JRPGs on PC

>>388464221
as long as 1440p 144fps is a thing ill always be beefing up my pc

>>388472835

The moment you can finally prove your love for Japanese vidiya transcends your spastic loyalty to the PC platform is the moment I will be able to take you seriously as a person. Until then continue being an insufferable contrarian PC fanboy as Gaben takes a nice turds in your mouth with Dota Card game shovelware. But with that being said at least you're honest now and admit your favourite genre is 2-bit lolli molestation simulators.

>>388473870
And nobody is trying to stop you or say you should do otherwise. There are genres of games on every platform that make them all worthwhile. You don't have to be ultra contrarian one-platform Steam loyalist like the people I'm replying to.

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>>388474008
It's not a robot and you're just stupid. Now can you get back on topic?

>>388474210
Holy fuck. You have to be kidding right now.

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>>388474008
She's an android, not a robot. Androids are always depicted as human like.
>>388474210
My love of Japanese games stems from me playing Japanese games and liking them

>>388467051
>gooks strangling simulator 2007

>>388474304
>>388474521
Thanks for clearing up what the protagonist actually is. what she was and why she looks that way confused me was all.

>>388474210
>You don't have to be ultra contrarian one-platform Steam loyalist like the people I'm replying to.

I agree with you, and I'm not. I have a PS4 and 360 hooked up and ready to go. I don't play them as much as my PC but I do enjoy playing them. I had a lot of fun with Bloodborne and Nioh.

>>388473663
>The point is that they're supposed to try and make you want them based on their own merits. Make the hardware functionally unique and interesting.

This is false and has never been the concept of any console. Since birth they all had exclusives. Every single one of them.

>>388469480
the point of console is being easy to use and having different consoles ensure that Sony, ms and Nintendo wont be too jewish.

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>>388474148
Personally I upgrade for emulators. I don't mind lower settings in games as long as I can play them, and strangely enough emulated games are always the most demanding games.

>>388474669
If it helps any, the androids are at war with robots so with all the terminology being thrown around during the game's release its understandable that one could mix it up. There ARE moments where you can play the robots themselves in the game once you gain the hacking ability.
>>388474745
They all had exclusives yes, but you're wrong if you don't think there are consoles who are appealing based on hardware alone.
>every Sony and Nintendo handheld
>Wii
>Wii U
>[insert obscure handheld hardware from failed company here]
Its also why the GPD Win is so popular lately. Its a really solid portable. Portables like the Vita and 3DS are the most successful platforms whose success in part stems from the fact that they're portable, thus making their hardware themselves the appeal.
The 360 and PS3 also had this appeal to a slight degree when the Kinect and PS Move external hardware came out too.

>>388473943
i wasn't really counting platformers or hyper-mainstream ones like zelda,

>>388475167
Regardless the main selling point was also the exclusive games, dating all the way back to the 80s afaik. Don't act like this started in the current or last generation.

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we already have arma so i dont see the problem, squad is making slow progress but its getting there

>>388475342
I'm not talking about platformers or adventure games.

>crysis
>exclusive
what

>>388475480
Tirst game is exclusive to PC. It did get a really shoddy remake for consoles, but it's not the same.

>>388467051
>Trying so hard to make cool webms.

>>388472717
Not worth buying with Denuvo. I would have bought it if a physical edition was sold that didn't require some shitty service like Steam.

>>388476085
You should consider mental help.

>>388466156
they were infiltrating it before 2007 but yeah it was 2007 where they started getting influence in the industry

>>388468465
Except Crysis was the highest selling game in the franchise despite being an exclusive.

>>388465974
If star citizen manages to be good I will be happy I just want to be a space pirate and command a crew of Misfits and steal other peoples $100 ships

>>388472906
Because the cores of the YoRHa units are made from the closest things to human souls remaining in the setting.

>>388469775
The reason consoles exist is to fund games. Its a symbiotic circle and a very important one at that. When somebody decides to bring a game to Steam, Gabe does not help that person. Steam is just where you pay to put your game. Even if you're making a PC exclusive, there is no help from any company or person in the PC environment to get your game funded or advertised.

By choosing to make a console exclusive or even a multiplat that also releases on consoles, you are able to make a deal with Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo, where in your game will have funding help, development help, and very very importantly advertising.

Because of this Sony/Micro/Ninten get a decent cut of the pie, but your game gets both made and noticed, and then the consoles get sales and a market, and the whole cycle repeats

It would be very difficult for AAA gaming to exist without consoles, most games would be on the level of indie titles, with the only large AAA games being made by established PC publishers like Blizzard

>>388478914
>The reason consoles exist is to fund games. I
They exist to play games. Entrepreneurs, publishers/sponsors, or passion projects exist to 'fund' games.

Yes there are exclusive console games that the console manufacturer helped develop or publish, but that isn't the only way you can make a game nor is it a good way to make a game if you actually want everyone to play it. Especially in this day and age. And there are caveats to exclusive deals, a lot of bad things have come from deals with Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft.

As for Steam 'helping' with games, a platform to sell your game is what you need to have if you want people to play it. And releasing a game on Steam is free advertising. Especially if you put out the news ahead of time with some consumer friendly benefits(modding, graphical gimmicks, etc). Opposed to the clusterfuck of PSN I guess? Most console exclusives get fuck all for advertisements so I'm not sure why you brought that up.

Also AAA gaming isn't even a good thing and Blizzard merging with Activision, for the sake of such games, irrefutably proves that. You act like you're a fan of games yet you really don't seem like it.

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Its really not. It's just all the highlight reels of people doing crazy shit with the suit powers that make it seem like that.

I hesitate to call it a "tactical" shooter but it is a much more serious shooter/stealth hybrid. Has a lot more in common with the first FEAR or Far Cry than straight all mayhem all the time style games.

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Mobile gaming makes almost as much money as console and pc gaming because of normalfags. Devs see this and all of a sudden more focus is put on shitty phone games than full fledged games on console and pc. Japan was the first victim of this.