>The 2.5 second GCD allows people with higher pings to not

>>388456867
>>This actually makes roles like Healing fun instead of god awful stress ulcer inducing hell
And then you have healing in the feast, which WILL make you want to kill youirself

>>388457559
>tacked on pvp in an mmo is bad

Color me shocked and surprised.

STORM OF BLOOD BORN FROM BLOOD

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>>388457908
It's not really about the actual healing, but how fucking retarded people are and how they blame you for every death while they are being goddamn stupid
>DPS going cutting line of sight with me when they are being attacked
>Somehow spam "Nice job" at me
>Tanks taking all the goddamn medals and get 10 stacks
>Still go in frontline and get literally raped
>Spam "Nice job" at me

>>388456867
>>The 2.5 second GCD allows people with higher pings to not experience game breaking latency
>>It also gives players more time to think about what they're going to do next instead of just going off of pure muscle memory
but neither of these are true. Higher pings still break the game because its a fucking mmo where you have to avoid the red spots on the ground or you die. Good luck doing that when you run out of the fire a second early and still get hit by whatever you were trying to dodge because your ping is so high. And everyone mashes out their rotation anyway. A 2.5 second gcd just makes the rotation take longer so you can watch anime or whatever during the fight.

>>388456867
The game has a shitload of issues and 2.5s GCD isn't anywhere near the top of the list

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>The 2.5 second GCD allows people with higher pings to not experience game breaking latency
Except there's still skill queuing (good thing) and atrocious animations locks (bad thing) so GCD length has nothing to do with latency and everything with SE's awful server architecture.

>It also gives players more time to think about what they're going to do next instead of just going off of pure muscle memory
Except you don't ever need to think in this game

>This actually makes roles like Healing fun instead of god awful stress ulcer inducing hell
It's neither hell nor fun, healing in this game is boring because class mechanics are nonexistent and everything can be carried with numerous overpowered instants (which is why healers spend 80% of their time playing DPS)

>People are wondering how the game went from 4 million to 10 million in just one expansion
Except retention is still shit so gg thanks for shilling

>>388456867
high ping breaks every job regardless of the GCD. You NEED sub 90 (BELOW NINETY) ping (this is mandatory) to play this game effectively. Anything above 90 and you will be unable to double-weave.

>>388458823
>>It also gives players more time to think about what they're going to do next instead of just going off of pure muscle memory
>Except you don't ever need to think in this game

If you're not planning ahead you're a shitter that doesn't pull his weight

>>388458184
>Tanks have 10 stacks
>you haven't won yet
I think there are bigger problems somewhere here.

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>that one FC on your server who NEVER shouts SB hunt locations anywhere and tries to kill them on their own

>>388458457
>t. played until level 20 am expert

>>388459036
Planning ahead =/= thinking
Every fight is completely static so you come up with an order of actions once (most of the time fights are basically made to match up with your cooldowns) and then you just do the same thing over and over again every week. There's no reaction at play, no spot thinking.

>>388459138
>People call them out on it
>lol we relay it to our people, you snooze you lose ;^)
>if you dont like it come join us!
>our one rule: have fun!

Burn it to the ground

>>388459138
>people hated hunts, let's recycle them yet AGAIN

>>388459175
>Every fight is completely static so you come up with an order of actions once
In theory, but most savage fights, and fights in general, have variable characteristics

I guess you could in theory have a definitive plan for every given circumstance, but thats impossible. You might have a general idea but adapting on the fly is important

Not to mention classes with heavy RNG mechanics

tl;dr you suck get good

>>388456867
>This actually makes roles like Healing fun instead of god awful stress ulcer inducing hell
have you actually healed in this game
the gcd is awful for healers

>People are wondering how the game went from 4 million to 10 million in just one expansion
>it now eclipses WoW.
it doesnt have 10 million subs you massive retard

>>388459386
>In theory, but most savage fights, and fights in general, have variable characteristics
Yeah like do I go left today or do I go right.
Even A8S basically had two scenarios per person, and Omega is for brainlets.

>tl;dr you suck get good
Post logs graylet

The 2.5s gcd isn't even really 2.5s. Certain actions and abilities are off gcd, but have an animation lock. The reason the game has a 2.5 gcd in general is because it's running off the same server hardware originally used in 1.0

>>388459175
>Every fight is completely static so you come up with an order of actions once
In a perfect static where everyone plays exactly the same every time is the only situation where this could be true. Otherwise things are always different depending on class makeup and how people play.

>There's no reaction at play, no spot thinking.

You've never played then. Ever. Because every job I've played has moments where you need to "spot think". Christ even theoretically healers need to spot think all the time. Maybe you're thinking of WoW where you can heal exclusively through AoE smart heals.

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>>388459528
You're retarded

>>388459604
>pug hero tries to make arguments about how the game is played
Hilarious..

>>388458919
I have over 120 ping and I can double weave fine (except on MCH, but every other class is fine.) The goal is to have sub 60 ping and triple weave.

>>388456867
i played the game until lvl 30 or so but the levelling experience made me want to kill myself

i really like the FF franchise and the setting seemed interesting, and even the main story looked like it was going somewhere interesting, but it moved so slowly and the combat was such a bore

i cant imagine how a long GCD would make healing anything but even more of a snoozefest than it is in WoW either

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>that one retard who still farms mobs for cheapass material they could buy for one gil on the market or get their retainers do it while you try to do your quests/hunts

>>388459882
you literally stopped right before the game gets better

Why are shitty ffxiv generals allowed in /v/? It's not even a good game holy shit, anyone who has played ARR and did the forced msq knows how horrible this game is.

>>388459825
which healer do you main? I have a theory.

>>388459140
2.5sec rotation is shit. And pin problems still exicst because the game expects you to double weave skills inbetween your standard rotation.

Doesn't help if you fuck up at any point or ping fucks up your input and you lose your entire combo which makes your dps take a dive.

2.5gcd was created for console limitations. The entire game was built for ps3 and it still is held back by it even with ps3 support being dropped.

>>388460091
I main DRK

>>388459974
well im probably going to give it another go sometime soon, so we'll see about that

>>388459604
>Maybe you're thinking of WoW where you can heal exclusively through AoE smart heals.
why do people feel the need to make up obvious falsehoods for their internet arguments? what do you hope to achieve here?

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>130 ping
>still clip every mudra

>>388460147
jesus christ you play DRK and DONT plan ahead?

hows 20th percentile treating you?

>>388456867
>>People are wondering how the game went from 4 million to 10 million in just one expansion

It didn't. They've had a lifetime account creation over the years, not active subs. Active subs are like 1-2mill at most.

>>388458919
What jobs even have enough offgcd to double-weave outside of the opener in 4.0?

>>388460198
See >>388459175

>>388459528
Grand Cross Alpha and Delta have 2 variants per person. Grand Cross Omega has 3, although two are 90% the same. There's also the RNG on which sets of antilight lasers he does through. The rest of the fight is a script though.

Black Holes in Exdeath have a good amount of RNG on where they spawn.

Last phase of Hali has 2-3 options for each tile select that you need to react to. There's also looking at you're connected to for Spellblade Holy, if you're doing the strat for max melee uptime you have to be pretty specific.

O1S and O2S RNG is pretty much "where's the safe spot?", and that's about it.

>>388460105
2.5s GCD was because of their shitty servers, not PS3.

>>388460147
You quite literally play the role that has no variations on the encounter. Holy shit I knew it. You have no clue what you're talking about. Every fight for every encounter is the same for tanks, can differ slightly for dps, and can differ wildly for healers because you rely on the skills of the people in the raid for how your job plays out during the fight. Meanwhile you drool on your keyboard and 1-2-3 and think that's how it is for everyone else.

>>388456867
The 2.5 second GCD complaint has always been retarded. It works great in the game.

XIV is still shit, but not for any of the reasons /v/ likes to think it's shit for.

>>388460336
>Grand Cross Alpha and Delta have 2 variants per person. Grand Cross Omega has 3, although two are 90% the same. There's also the RNG on which sets of antilight lasers he does through. The rest of the fight is a script though.

And? Those change what you do very minimally, especially with new Delta strats.

>Black Holes in Exdeath have a good amount of RNG on where they spawn.
Their position differs. How you deal with them does not.

>O1S and O2S RNG is pretty much "where's the safe spot?", and that's about it.
Exactly, it doesn't matter if you go left or right.

Are you trying to prove my point or something? Hali is the only fight this tier with meaningful RNG.

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>>388460318
Yeah nah, DRK is one of the jobs that needs planning to do anything beyond pissawful damage

Good luck in your o3s prog anon, hope you can break 15th %

>>388460440
no, considering you can put out skills 0.4 seconds after eachother

>>388457559

rainmaker mode when

>>388459214
>>388459380
They even do it when you've found the hunt. As soon as you shout they pull it without waiting for others.

>>388460502
Naw I'm just stating any RNG in current fights, not arguing one way or the other. It's all rather simple.

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>>388460515
Why are you arguing the point I didn't make?
I didn't ever say you never plan, but in the fight itself you rarely meaningfully change what you do and even in critical situations there's only so much you can do. If you think emergency voke or using gap closers to reengage is some deep thinking you never played good PVP games in your life.

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>someone in The Balance complaining about fflogs being skewered because some people have 345 weapon and some don't
>check his logs
>he's 34 percent

>>388459380
It fucking infuriates me that fucking hunts are still a thing and that they're actually useful to do on occasion. Hunts are seriously one of the worst things they've added to the game. Why they keep updating that shit, out of all the other terrible shit they've added to the game, for upgrade items...I have no clue.

I'd rather grind Lord of Vermillion or do fucking diadem a billion times then do an hour of fucking hunts. Fuck hunts.

>having to actively think about your priority list instead of instinctively knowing

>>388460502
exdeath has alot of rng mechanics and you have to do alot of on the fly thinking
but yeah i agree with you

>>388459861
you're either lying or don't know how the game works.

it's not that bad now that eu got actual eu servers
i played that shit on release and the eu servers were hosted in fucking canada or some shit, 200ping minimum on top of the 2,5 made for quite a painful experience

>>388460918
just tell him that
shitters deserves to be placed where they belong

>>388460846
Way to move the goalpost

You said you didn't need to plan GCDs in advance to get anything done
You also said even if you did it didn't require any thinking

Which is bullshit, unless you have a fucking computer for a brain, which nobody does, theres always areas you can change to up DPS or efficiency

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>>388461017
Too bad playing on EU you have to play with EU which are 85% krauts, frogs or russkie

>>388461087
Not him but
>Tell them that
>They suddenly go fulll REEEEEEEEEEEEE and ask me how I dare belittle them

>>388459774
>fflogs did more to destroy the raiding scene than Gordias ever did

>>388460951
I love how you need to kill 2000 S ranks and 3000 A ranks to get the tiger mount.

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>>388461231
The game itself destroyed the raiding scene.
The raids are so small and so easy that going autism on your minmaxing is the only way we can get a stiffy these days.
Don't judge.

>>388461231
yeah theyre gay, which is why I dont subscribe to the shitflinging over percents in these garbage threads

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final C92 XIV loot upload for now.
Might scan one or two non-H ones at a later time though: https://exhentai.org/g/1106942/0c283274d3/

>>388461087
It's fun seeing some people think they know their shit just because they're in The Balance.

Gave him the benefit of doubt and checked his Creator, still couldn't scratch purple, even with echo.

Some people just need excuses to be bad.

>>388461087
>tell "him" that
>turns out it's a job leader's GF
>get banned from the server

>>388460918
>>388461451
The balance discord is so fucking cancerous
So many shitters pumping out bad guides and awful class advice while still progressing in fucking o3s

I don't listen to any trash that spills out of that cesspool

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Is XIV a good mmo? Should i play it?

>>388461535
just tell him that getting a 345 weapon wont free him from being a graylet
>>388461575
the balance is 95% shitters but some of the worlds best at their jobs also hangs out there
>>388461591
no

>>388461003
Sounds more like (you)'re the one with no clue. Double weaving has been standard for average connection since 2.0 launched. Triple means you live on Yoshi P's sack pretty much. Single weaving means you're out in bumblefuck or foreign.

>>388461575
The Balance simply has like 10k+ members
Of course only a handful are good

>>388461426
C92 was disappointing and XIV doujinshi are always lackluster.

Nihonjin put all their good H mojo in XI it seems.

>>388461575
Don't listen to anyone who doesn't have pink name there. With few exceptions who should have pink name but don't for reasons.
I'm orange myself but don't really know much actually. I just can press buttons well and am greedy when it comes to mechanics.

>>388461943
What do the colors mean

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>finally clear exdad
>grey number with 3.6k
o-oh..

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So if I just bought the 320 crafted weapon, rings, wrists, necklace, and earrings, where do I go from here? Does this mean I skip Susano and Lakshmi and just go straight into Deltascape Normal?

>>388460918
>>388461087
>>388461451
>unironically using Discord

You people deserve running into those shit communities.

>>388460440
If it's because of their servers then why are mudras on a 0.5s recast time and same with samurai stab and spin kenki attacks

>>388458184
t. silver

>>388462135
Gold actually.
I'm giving up on diamond at this point.

>>388462079
Go away Skype marketer Discord is unironically the best messenger out there

>>388461982
On balance, there's basically two. Pink is a "mentor", someone that actually knows his shit. Everyone else is light purple.

On fflogs, the percentiles are color coded.
100 is gold, 99-95 is orange, 94-75 is purple, 74-50 is blue, 49-25 is green, and below that is gray.

>>388462079
How the fuck do you communicate with your raid team. On facebook?
Anyway, it's still #1 place to actually find a new team, or to sub someone. #2 being fucking reddit.

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Why are there try hards in this game? What is even the point?

>>388462295
Not much interesting in the game otherwise

>>388461426
Any Papalymo in there?

>>388456867
2.5s GCD also makes controllers viable as a control scheme. You forget that PS4 players make up a majority of FFXIVs playerbase.

>>388462246
By not playing on meme servers like Gilgamesh and not using meme software like Discord.

Decentralized raiding always works the best.

So can somebody tell me why I should even bother using Eos as SCH? Yes, Eos. Because as far as I can tell the only reason she's used is Whispering Winds and it's only ever used when you can Rouse and use her healing increase beforehand. And this only makes it not shit. Why can't I just use Sic Selene and pretend it's the new meta?

>>388457559
>muh healing stress

How gay are you, honestly

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I wouldn't fucking mind the 2.5 second GCD if this weren't the clunkiest feeling, least responsive piece of shit MMO on the market

Going on 3 months of playing RDM, finished raiding all the way through o4s and I'm fucking done with this game

Animation locking is an abortion; anytime you have to double-weave you fucking clip; half of the time you need to single-weave an oGCD with a particularly cancerous animation you clip; when your spell buff runs out halfway through a cast it lets you finish channeling and then not cast the fucking spell

XIV plays like fucking shit and there hasn't been any reason to log in except for 3 hours a week to raid for almost 2 months now

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>fflogs autists showing their true colors

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>>388462430
>>388462451

wow 2 for 1, what a catch

>>388462376
PS4 player here. It's actually better than M&K.

>>388462542
t. graylet

All hunt mobs need like 5x their current HP and A/S ranks should appear on the zone map when spawned.

>>388462570
I play on PC but with XBOX controller.
I guess KB+M is better if you have those MMO mouses.

>>388462295
Because they have nothing else in their life. If they were interested in playing challanging shit, they would be Mythinc raider in ToS.

The problem is that "Savage" in XIV is so fucking easy that it bred a scene of casuals, who never made the cut in other games, get arrogant and elitist as fuck because they managed to clear a easy ass raid tier. Most of them probablt started raiding during Creator.

Unless Super Savage or whatever shit the XIV team comes up with is easy as fuck as well, I expect a lot of wining and temer tantrums by the new raiding scene, claiming is is "unfair" and "as bad as gordias".

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>>388459380
Hunts are great. People hate them because they feel entitled to every hunt on the server despite never bothering to look for any.

>>388462605
t. not getting the joke-retard

>>388462632
Agreed that hunts need higher stats. The A ranks from ARR melt under 5 seconds and it's impossible for any new player to reach those hunts as veterans have mounts that move 2-3x faster.

>>388462675
I need to check my numbers but im pretty sure the amount of wipes for savage raids are on par or above mythic raids. Of course you'll just say thats because all XIV players are bad.

>>388462530
Double weaving its only possible for people with extremely low ping, so I guess that if you want to do it, means that youre an autistic mix-maxer scrub.

And even fucking yoshida said they made the game so you can do or play other stuff, but seeing as you already cleared 4S and only play to raid, it means that your pathetic life only has one game in it.

In short, you're an autistic fucker who can't find to do anything else besides playing this one game.

>he needs discord to parse high and get early clears
>he needs discord to make it to Diamond and secure top 10

Discord is a crutch. Go silent and win without the help of the botnet.

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>>388462675
I thought xiv raids were "the best and hardest in the mmo market"? Thats what /v/ has been saying for months since SB was announced.

So its not true afterall?

>>388462530
Maybe you wouldn't have so much to complain about if you weren't playing literally the easiest class in this game.

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>>388462996
>you only play to raid
>that means you don't play any other games
Do you even read what you type nigger?

>>388462996
Sorry, I don't follow your logic
Because there's 3 hours of game to play per week I'm a pathetic no lifer that plays nothing but XIV?

I don't mind 2.5 gcd, but that just sounds like an excuse for shitty server locations.

>>388459140
if anything he's played to max because dodging aoe attacks is irrelevant before then, you can just heal through them if its a dungeon and you can just outdps them if its any other mob.

>>388463125
They're on par if not harder than mythic. (v4s shit all over what wow has to offer) but shills will shill

>>388463125
I never seen anyone claim that and if they did I would have to laugh at them. Raids in XIV are pathetic. ARR is was probably the best raiding we will ever get in the game.

>>388462570
Controller is better for gathering but when it comes to frontlines or feast the controller players always get left in the dust versus kb+m.

>Can't type and play at same with controller, so if you want to give frontlines orders in chat you have to drop the controller
>Have to slowly move camera using analog sticks instead of instantly snapping behind with a key press
>Takes multiple menu navigations to do a task when it takes 1 macro bind on a keyboard

>>388463337
it's how the game is designed to play
the servers are shit but it being faster would work fine

>>388463209
Hmm I see, and those other, more difficult classes don't clip their double-weaves?

>>388463351
This is completely false. There are tons of times even in leveling dungeons where if you sit in the dodgeable attacks you will die.

>>388463470
>t. didn't do Gordias or Midas

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>did everything up to the start of o4s
>upgrade only half of my gear because yoship will eventually boost me up to pace
>buy some materia on a weekend when they're low
>check out my moonfire faire business suit
>unsub until october
Who else setting out to explore other vidya games and not falling for the autistic parse rehearsal meme here

>4.1 not until october

>>388463590
Late September

>>388463576
>want to quit
>can't because Super Savage in October
>want to change jobs
>have to commit because Super Savage will be tuned to gear cap

Fug

>>388463576
>Who else setting out to explore other vidya games and not falling for the autistic parse rehearsal meme here
When did the autism start that if you play an mmo you're expected to only ever play that. This is normal behavior anon, do you want a medal?

>>388463685
Won't you also miss out on that one bike mount that needed 3 months of sub to get?

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>>388462039
Prease Respondu

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>blue shitter
>don't use food or potions
Pots cost too much and take 5gcds to work

Why are so many neet and trannies playing this game?

>>388463757
Who cares about that piece of shit

>>388463243
That anon only raided and cleard o4s, so that means the game is automatically bad because theres nothing else to do, when he played for 3 hours everyday for 2 months? isnt that enough for 13 bucks?

Like I said, 14s design means there are a lot of things to do, but in different "paths" you can choose to craft, to raid, to level jobs, to even fuckin play triple triad, so sticking with one and calling the game shit, its basically subjective.

>nigger
Dumbfuck autist american

>>388463280
Not really, playing 3 hours a day for over 2 months and calling it an inresponsive shit? why didnt you drop it before going all the way to O4S, and you really play only 3 hours a day, how do you make money for food, for materia, thats clearly bullshit.

SO i've been thinking about getting this game for a while, worth it or nah?

>>388463685
Why even care? It gives no gear and you already got NeoExdeath in Savage.

>>388462996
> this shitter doesn't know the existence of chocobo racing, triple triads, maxing other jobs and buttloads of other content like housing.
> muh raids
Yeah how about you fuck off or actually play the game? Fucking retards.

>>388463747
I blame WoW. It ruined not only the genre but everyone's judgement of how MMOs should work. You must subscribe every month and play only that MMO otherwise you get left behind

>>388463916
> isnt that enough for 13 bucks?
oh boy it's this stupid argument again

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>>388463932
>Why even care?
Because raiding is the only remotely fun activity in this game and if you miss early progression nobody's gonna catch you up to speed. Are you new to this thing?

>>388463685
>want to quit
>can't because Super Savage in October
Why are you forcing on stuff you don't really want to... jesus... autistic raider, don't you have anything else to do?

Are people so closed that they can even take decisions by themselves.

>>388463968
But anon kun, these activities don't have numbers that are posted on some log website attached to it. How am I supposed to show off my ePeen when I can't post my logs?!

>go to farm Ala Mhigo for the mount
>get a tank in 320 crafted mixed with BiS lost allagan and a susano weapon
>he baby pulls

If any of you are going to try playing tank, please for fucks sake either just man up and pull wall to wall or ask the healer first.

>>388463916
3 hours a WEEK you illiterate
As in, you log in to do your raids one day a week and then log off
i.e. "why the fuck am I paying $13 a month for this game I play 12 hours a month"

>>388464000
>2.5 GCD
OH BOY

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>>388463885
It looks pretty cool imo.

>>388463486
you can by typing with one hand, you just lose access to some of the buttons. this is the same problem with keyboard typing while pressing hotkeys
menus all have their own hotkeys in the actions&traits menu. nobody actually uses them because it's not necessary. and since mouse clicks register on button up instead of button down coupled with the time it takes to move the cursor around, navigation speed is about the same for both

targeting and camera in frontlines are definitely a clusterfuck, though i still get battle fever a lot with controller. it's healing multiple alliances that's a pain in the ass

>>388463968
>>388464102
>>388464118
Go back to OF.

>>388464092
If you only find the job part fun, then you should just unsub. Wasting your life, man.

>>388464180
where is that from?

>>388460440
It's because of controller support.

>>388464284
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/mount_campaign_2017/?utm_source=lodestone&utm_medium=pc_banner&utm_campaign=na_mount_campaign

>>388464180
Is that supposed to be ff7 highwind?

>>388464129
>i.e. "why the fuck am I paying $13 a month for this game I play 12 hours a month"
Because you're an idiot who can't find anything better to do. Calling the game shit just because you don't like it its even more stupid and even more, that you had to wait 2 months to realize you don't like it.

You seriously look like a teenager girl who can't decide on her clothes.

>>388463834
Just don't weave any oGCDs.
Or use them on pre-pull if you're a caster.

>>388464341
It's the Falcon from FF6

>>388464129
If you reach the point that you only play to do a weekly thing then maybe you should quit instead of continuing to pay every month.

>>388456867
>those fake as fuck numbers

Lol. You can barely manage 300k subs

>>388464126

On the other hand you have

>undergeared tank in 61-7 dungeons. Pulls everything and then turns off tank stance

Why is there no middle ground? Bitch, just grab at least two groups and be good at not dying.

>>388464346
All that other garbage you listed is a waste of time

>Crafting
A shitty inefficient way to make money
>Level jobs
To play the content I've seen over 1000 times before again
>Triple Triad
Fun for about 25 minutes if you aren't brain damaged

Lemme see what else can I do at max level in XIV
>Do the dogshit chocobo racing minigame 880 times for a shitty mount
>Transmute materia for another 125 million gil that is fucking worthless
>Farm aethersand so I can earn worthless gil but less efficiently
>Uhhh, do hunts for worthless cosmetics that haven't been updated in 4 years
>Fly around the empty overworld and look at all the generic elemental sprites populating the world

Despite your projection, I like this game, just like I liked it in ARR; but unlike ARR they've decided that there needs to be literally nothing to fucking do in endgame for 4 months, when they'll release 1 relevant fight and some other shit you don't need

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>>388464126
I do what I want as a tank and if you dare kick me then have fun waiting 45 minutes for a replacement while I get into a new dungeon instantly.

So is the Stormblood storyline going to continue to have Lyse getting irrationally angry (to the point of people having to stop her from getting violent) that not absolutely everyone wants to make an enemy of an empire that has far more military might than everyone else on the planet? It just makes her seem really dumb and shortsighted. "Hey pirate dudes why the fuck do you not try to openly oppose the Empire even though they could easily blast your glorified fishing boats straight out of existence?"

>>388464694
Gil is not worthless. 3 million is currently worth $50 USD on Balmung.

>le 2.5s is for controllers meme
>when everyone and their mother have been playing fighting games and rhythm games with a timing window of 15ms (literally less than one frame) on them
Get smoked MMO shitters, you're already playing the most casual genre next to visual novels. Acting smug about it only makes you look like a tool.
And in the same vein Summoner has a lot of DoTs because it helps people micro the pet without losing damage :^)

>>388464901
>50 dollars

Are only children and unemployed neet playing this game?

>>388464983
No, it's just balmung.

Can you get anything from the seasonal event other then the one outfit and the painting/music/food item?

>>388464983
There are people on Balmung with hundreds of millions of gil. Do the math how much that costs in USD.

>>388464901
What the fuck dude. You can make 3 million just doing roulettes and shit.

>>388464694
>Crafting
>A shitty inefficient way to make money
>pulls a hot commodity item out of my ass in a couple of macros WHILE shitposting on 4chan
>put it on mb
>jack off
>come back and collect hundreds of thousands of gil
Meanwhile retarded cucks are sitting in Leveling Roulette to """"farm"""" cracked clusters for half an hour at a time with parties of shitters and sprouts that sell for barely as much and stress the shit out of them.

>>388463125

Objectively speaking, a lot of a raid's difficulty stems from the amount of players in the raid. Anyone who's led a static will know this, there is a process to learning a mechanic especially if the players aren't top tier where they most likely have to see a mechanic a 1-2 times to know what to do. Top tier players know what to do because it's not that fucking hard. That's what angered did with Omega, clearing 14 hours or so ahead of the next group, a huge margin considering how much it took overall. 8 players honestly is a good sweetspot for raiding, as much as I love seeing a rush of players in 40/25 man raids, that shit should always be casual. Not to mention its pointless in terms of raid design. If there's a few more tanks/healers, what do you think the devs will do to make sure they're busy? Basically, you can't just compare clear times and call it a day.

To answer the question of "I thought xiv raids were "the best and hardest in the mmo market"?". Difficulty wise,
Gordias/Midas is definitely one of the hardest raids to come out in any MMO, being raids that had no crippling gear check or attunement bullshit but still took over a month/3-4 weeks to clear. It's not like PW or AV in XI where the devs just slap numbers on it and fuck off. Creator/Omega might as well not be mentioned but XIV raiding is now a midcore paradise where shit players can feel accomplished and orange fflogs players are praised even with 50%+ uptime on single balance. However in terms of presentation, XIV is one of the best and this cannot be disputed.

>>388464694
>All that other garbage you listed is a waste of time
And your opinions as well, and still, this game seems to have more positive reactions than WoW, and still, people talk more about this game than WoW.

The "endgame" meme needs to die, there should be plenty of things to do besides locking yourself to a couple of fights. If you want to raid go to WoW. 14 is clearly not the game for you.

>>388464901
>gil is only worth $10 per 3mil on your legacy server
Well fuck, I'd have ditched this game if I could blow my 300mil off on Balmung.

>>388456867
>What a crazy turn of events eh? The 2.5 gcd was used against the game for so long and it turned out to be a main reason why it now eclipses WoW.
>Doesn't even have 1m of players
What?

>>388465362

You think getting a good group in XIV is bad, WoW is worse. The amount of good players there is rock bottom now, let alone getting enough for a mythic group.

>>388461591
Try trial level cap is level 35.

>>388465148
Not on Balmung. Economy is not as inflated as other servers. Undercutting and lots of supply will do that. Plus bots can't make new character on that server anymore so gil RMT prices go up insane.

>>388465550
I sat through 200 attempts across 5 weeks to finally beat a boss in one of the easiest raid tiers in xiv. Is WoW worse

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>>388464983
Prices are this crazy only on Balmung and Gilgamesh.

>>388465250
Cool, but try
>Transmute 150k worth of worthless Mat6
>Sell Gathering Mat6 for 1.3m
Spend 45 minutes for 15m gil

>>388465362
Who the fuck is talking about WoW?
There aren't 'plenty of things to do' in XIV; doing the same content 13 fucking times to hit cap in every class isn't 'plenty of things to do'
Besides, when you DO hit 70 in every class, then what the fuck are you going to do? When you're even out of the fucking busywork to do?

>>388465550
But WoW is still more focused on raiding than XIV. Every multiplayer game will have its issues of finding competent people, but as >>388465256 says, I also think that 8 people is a good sweet spot for players. 20 people for mythic raids is already too much in my opinion.

>>388464180
PLEASE TELL ME DOES IT HAVE SEARCHING FOR FRIENDS AS MOUNT THEME?????

>>388465807
>20 people for mythic raids is already too much in my opinion.
the absolute truth. you should see how fucking tough it is to coordinate mythic raiding on a EU WoW server. people have so many different timezones and schedules it's almost impossible to get 19 other people to log on at once.

>>388465889
We will only know the 5 of next month.

>>388465701
Think how much money SE would make if they just let players buy time tokens for cash to sell on the marketboard for gil.

>>388465697

Take the average shitter static in XIV and multiple it by 2 with twice the shitter players. You'll probably take twice that amount of time to clear just by virtue of teaching the bads how to move in a direction, even with DBM screaming at them.

>>388465946
IS IT TOO LATE TO GET IT THEN?!

>>388465701
I legitimately don't understand the people that play on Balmung?
Is it actual mental illness?

>>388466125
Well you needed to be subscribed for 90 days until the end of the campaign the 30th September

>>388466206
It's the only server that makes the MMO feel like an MMO in terms of raw players standing around afk.

>>388465803
Shit, does it give you back a VI every time if you feed him all VIs? I shouldn't have sold all the main stat VIs from expert dungeons.

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There's degeneracy across the data centers.

>>388465803
>Who the fuck is talking about WoW?
>...there needs to be literally nothing to fucking do in endgame for 4 months, when they'll release 1 relevant fight and some other shit you don't need
Because if you want more than 4 high end fights go to WoW.

>There aren't 'plenty of things to do' in XIV; doing the same content 13 fucking times to hit cap in every class isn't 'plenty of things to do'
Leveling its just one of the things you could do, and like I said, XIV is more casual focused, you don't "need" to level more than one or two jobs, and you don't "need" to do it in one week.

It seems that I triggered your neetismo, so let me give you an example of someone different.
Anon logs in after a day at work/school, plays an expert roulette with his buddies, and raids for two hours, logs off. Then on a weekend, anon plays for about 4 hours, works on his crafter, sells stuff and makes some money towards his house. The next day he does a couple of dungeons for his secondary job, hangs around helping others in his fc, and leaves for the rest of the day to play another game or do something irl.

You could add many of the things people have said and there, a game you don't need to lose your life over like WoW and you can still enjoy.

>>388466493
>People are having fun in the game they pay 15$ a month.
>STOP HAVING FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i literally start nodding off and falling asleep during tanking/healing but still clear them fine. games ez and designed for casuals, erpers, barbie doll dress up losers, trannies, beta males and women (population gathered off the /xivg/ general)

>>388466206
unironically, Balmung is one of the best servers out there. Tons of players to play with, economy is not inflated, no text spam or bots since the server lockdown, and if you're rich in gil then you can make some real good paypal money selling it to others.

>>388466497

>Because if you want more than 4 high end fights go to WoW.

Objectively false my dude. WoW raids always only have 2-4 worthwhile fights. Everything else is just filler. Quick peek at wowprogress, 7/9 of the mythic bosses for Kiljaeden's raid were cleared in a day. Happens with every tier, I want this meme to die.

My ADHD is sufficient enough to stop me from ever playing WoW. I was barely able to deal with FF14 when I gave it two months and got to endgame content. So I can attest to the fact that it's better for some people.

This doesn't matter for fighting games or action games, as I don't have a million fucking flashing animations and sound effects playing at once, just my character and whoever I'm punching.

>>388464739
>kick the tank

No I just eat the 30min debuff and play a different game

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>How it feels to get Critical Direct Hit Midare

>>388466730
>he doesn't turn off other people's animations
Summoner deletion when? That faggot is the worst offender

>>388466497
>Anon raids 10 hours a week but still levels crafting, farms money and does dungeons on the weekend
>The person playing 3 hours a week is a Neetismo

I literally played for 2-3 hours a night at launch and managed to be ready for Omega Normal, and barely 3 hours a week to cap tomes and prep for Savage.
The most fucking casual of casuals will run out of non-autistic shit to do in this game in a month.

>>388466724
It is still "more" than XIV, and because people complain about quantity instead of quality, we have this situation.

I also agree with you, WoW doesn't have more worthwhile fights as XIV, because in XIV everyfight feels with more impact, including the mechanics, location and obviously, soundtrack.

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>>388466880
>16k non crit non dh Midare
>160 (one hundred sixty damage) direct crit Midare after a mongoloid messes up animal tiles and inflicts Damage Down on everybody

>>388466943
Well fuck me, I feel silly.

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>AFK in an RP heavy area
>Come back later
>No one has emoted at me or talked to me
I didn't want to be noticed or anything....

>>388466624
/pol/ needs to leave

>>388467163
put "walks up welcome" in your search info comment

>>388466616
They are literally having shitty, virtual sex in one of the most heavily populated locations in the game.

>>388467117
Everytime it makes me want to kill myself

>>388467020
>The most fucking casual of casuals will run out of non-autistic shit to do in this game in a month.

Maybe speaking of yourself, because I'm the only person in my FC that has over 20 people online at average, with 3S cleared and a 340 weapon, and still I see more people online playing casually and having fun.

In short again, most of the stuff you said is subjective and there's a reason why XIV is being talked more recently.

>>388466724
The same could be said of XIV

o1s and o2s are trivial filler
o3s takes most people a week to learn
o4s is too autistic for most raiders, but still got cleared 1st week

There's basically 2 fights in XIV that you would even consider progression

>>388467078
In an ideal world FFXIV wouldn't even have a leveling system. It'd just be half as many dungeons, all of them being better designed and having alternate routes and cool bonuses and all kinds of shit to do, and more incentivization to replay old content for glamors and glamor mats.

But no, the Kirito wannabe needs to justify their time spent in the MMO with big dick numbers.

>>388467312
That still makes my argument vaild, WoW has more fights, so if you are tired of 2 or 4 or whatever amount you wanna refer, WoW has more fights for you.

>>388467265
Well I don't wanna RP or anything. I just want to be like those people who go AFK and come back to people petting them! Do people not want to pet Roes!

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>>388466493
>you will never have a lalafell shit on your face as another lalafell grinds your dick in public while others watch

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STOP JOINING NEO EXDEATH PROG GROUPS IF YOU CAN'T EVEN DO FUCKING REGULAR EXDEATH FUCK

>>388467163
>just doing my shit in town not even afk
>"hey wanna join my fc"
>"cute character!"
>"nice glamour"
thank
also RP areas are full of fags busy emoting to their emote partner, or they're all afking in their own attempt to get (You)s

>>388467339
>But no, the Kirito wannabe needs to justify their time spent in the MMO with big dick numbers.
That's unfortunatelly the state of many people that complain about the game, and that wants more raids in a game where has been clearly stated that raids are not the main focus of it.

>>388467339
>Final Fantasy
>A classic RPG, complete with leveling in every game and the ability to grind the fuck out of your characters
>Not have a game with leveling in it
Are you in the wrong genre?

>>388463968
>chocobo racing
fluff, shit content

>triple triad
fluff, shit content

>maxing other jobs
meaningless because of gear lockouts and caps, your other jobs will never perform as well as your main due to gear difference

>buttloads of other content like housing
something only 10% of a server get the experience because players can have 8+ houses per account

Wanna try that again?

>>388467296
>There's a reason why XIV is being talked more recently

What does that have to do with XIV being shit?
WoW is shit and people talk about it constantly
GW2 is shit and it has a general

>>388467339
That's literally Vindictus a lobby game. It's crap.

>>388467339
In an ideal world FFXIV, they get rid of all zones and make hubs like PSO2 or Dragons Dogma Online. With the money saved getting rid of zones and hosting servers to make those zones possible, they can focus on creating better instanced content and improve the netcode so the game works better with 8 people instead of being designed to handle 100+ people spamming shit on screen.

>>388467487
hey most of my group died to second black holes, but the tank survived the second meteor so I've been to enrage
^^

>people call ff14 slower than wow
>have higher apm on my drg than any of the classes on wow ive played
sure was fun having 35apm rogue

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>>388467531
>Posting on an anonymous image board
fluff, shit content
>Posting on 4chan
fluff, shit content

>Arguing againts anons on the internet
Seriously, don't you have anything better to do?

Wanna try that again?

>>388467701
Why don't you just play mobile games instead of trying to kill the point of MMOs?

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Stupid dumbfuck paladins who big pull and spam flash

you get an aoe skill at level 46

use it you useless pieces of shit
god fucking damn

>>388464118
Shit, I thought they didn't count because all those are about as fun as having a fucking aneurysm

>>388467592
Ironically Vindictus players give LESS of a shit about parse numbers than XIV autists even though it's a more skill-based game.

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>>388467487
>FC have to pug for 3 members
>Says especially that it's a Neo exdeath prog and to come ONLY if you have cleared Exdeath several time and know the fight
>Still get people not stacking for Blizz 3, who run around like endless chicken for BHs or keep on messing up Flare or buffed Bliz/Fire/Thunder 3
I wish there was some sort of way to prove that you have passed Exdeath outside of fflogs

>>388467794
tell me, what's the point of zones in FFXIV if the majority of people just idle at 1-2 town hubs. after questing the zones are dead. why spend more time and money creating those zones and servers to host them

>>388467312

Yeah but that's because current Savage might as well be considered Savage lite. They've gotten it right before, Midas was the sweetspot for that sort of progression. It's just the idea that WoW has a gorillion bosses is an idea perpetuated by people who didn't actually play WoW, or brought up as a number just to shit on XIV.

>>388467078

XIV tbqh just needs to be less afraid of reusing content. Not that they aren't reusing content, but they reuse it for shit like relics and animas and WT/roulettes. Mythic+ isn't great content but its still something you can approach with people you'd like to play with, that isn't completely steamroll like dungeons, and isn't as stressful as raiding.

>>388467864
ummmmmmmmm

the spin move doesn't do aggro

and I'm a tank

soooooooo

i'm not gonna do your job

>>388467786
Thanks for your admission of defeat, I won, yet again.

>>388458102
I haven't hummed the stormblood theme at all. The HW theme is still stuck in my head.

>>388467701
In an ideal world, you would have a simulation of your desires only for you where you would be happy for the rest for the eternity.

Seriously, dealing with good and bad things are part of this world, but as this guy has said a lot >>388465362 maybe its not for everyone.

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>DRK job quests

Are the other jobs even trying?

>>388467864
Fuck off cunt. The spinny move doesn't do aggro and drains TP worse than a Hummer wastes gas.I will flash those shits twice and you'll thank me.

>>388467901
Because an expansive world is part of the genre. If you just want to load into grindy minigame shit from a menu, go play Granblue and leave MMOs the fuck alone. Not every game needs to homogenized for your autistic ass.

>>388468168
the drk quests are literally garbage until the very last one.

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>>388467961
Glad you think like that, be happy in your life anon.

>>388467984
Anything would stuck in your head if you had to listen to it for 2 years
You'll be singing about hemoglobin storms in 5.0 soon

>>388467912
As someone who played through Mythic+ in Legion...

Absolutely no. The Mythic+ gear grind was the biggest pains in the arse I have ever experienced in an MMO.

The increased HP/damage pools never made any dungeon more interesting, they just made things take longer. Mechanical mistakes on bosses were more punishing, but then they're 4/5-man dungeon bosses; they're deliberately designed to be simple to handle; either you were never going to screw them up anyway, or someone does and it's just more annoying that they did.
The affixes, by their very nature, had to be fairly generic so they could fit into any dungeon. As a result, they again did not add any depth or interesting play to the dungeons; they were irrelevant at best and just an annoying distraction at
worst.

As a result of the above two, those wishing for an engaging challenge do not receive it, and those not interested in a challenge just fall unreasonably far behind in gear to the point where they cannot any longer find groups that will accept them at their gear level. Speaking of which...
The goddamn gear grind. You've got a key, you need to upgrade the key to the level you want and then hope it rolls the right dungeon that drops the piece of gear you want, then you run the dungeon and fail to get it yet again, and now your key is a different dungeon and too high a level and you need to grind someone else's key all the way up again. It takes absolutely forever and you get sick to your teeth of running the same damn dungeon over and over and over and over again.

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>>388468168
>Absolutely hate playing DRK
>They have the best job quests
God dammit

So when are they going to go the FFXI route of recycling zones for building new content out of?

I could go for a Dynamis-esque alliance instance featuring the cities as one zone.

>>388468168
>crafter job quests
>ROG job quests
Are other job questlets even trying

>>388468264
Since there's no lock or limit on gear received from mythic+ (except that one bonus piece per week), you were doing the above every moment of every day, because you had to if you wanted to stay competitive. Adding a lock or limit would just make the RNG part more frustrating, as well as making the next point even worse:
People screwing up and depleting your keys is infuriating. And now you have to do essentially a no-loot run just to reactivate your key so you can actually get your chance at loot again.
And to be clear, this is not conjecture; it happened, i experienced it, this is how it went.
I'm all for challenging content and such, but Mythic+ is not the way to go about it. If something is to be made more difficult, I want the mechanics to change, depth to be added - look at the difference between V3N and V3S as a perfect example. Mythic+ is not a system that is capable of doing this, and in the meantime it makes gearing extremely repetitive and grindy. It looks great on paper, but in practice....no.

>>388468348
PUG one was nice too

>>388468230
What job quests are good in your opinion then?

>>388468208
Flash+Circle of scorn+Flashing again when blind is up is more than enough aggro you lazy faggot, and what are you spending that excess tp on anyway?, NOTHING that's what

>>388464901
Nobody is buying 3m gil for $50 USD. Especially not from regular players.

>>388468385
IT'S PGL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Swimming sums up Stormblood perfectly
The pre-launch frenzy hyped the shit out of swimming in Stormblood
Game fucking comes out and what do we get
>No underwater combat
>Can't swim in any old-world bodies of water
>Underwater zones are completely unpopulated and empty
>Janky as fuck transition between surface and underwater

A bunch of fucking hype and it turns out what they've added is even less than what was in Vanilla WoW, which didn't even consider it a feature, just something that would obviously be in the game

>>388456867
>>It also gives players more time to think about what they're going to do next instead of just going off of pure muscle memory


>SE literally calling their audience braindead slow retards that have the reaction of a 97 year old man
>somehow this is good

xiv shills are so retarded.

>>388467526
You know there are FF games without levels, right?

>>388467592
Vindictus is also a shit F2P game without enough actual content to sustain itself and even more intense "best gear or gtfo" bullshit.

>>388468591
They never hyped up underwater. They said from day one of it being announced it wouldn't have combat content, wouldn't be in many old zones, and wouldn't be a major feature for exploration.

>>388468591
>underwater combat

Are you somehow implying this wouldn't be either completely putrid shit or exactly the same as regular combat making the distinction pointless?

>>388466493
>wearing the DQ armorer mask
Good taste.

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>>388467945
it feels terrible that this is something i would probably see in a party

>>388463823
you go straight into savage/shitter tome gear, lakshmi and susano stuff is 320 so if you already have 320 you don't need that unless you want to min max which you shouldn't because it's useless at that low ilvl

>>388467864
From what I've seen most tanks don't notice that it's been implemented because they don't read the patch notes, and it's given as a level 46 skill, so they overlook it.
Better goad me when I fall below 50% TP fuccboi

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>>388468678
>You know there are FF games without levels, right?
The sphere grid is still leveling up, retard.

>>388468225
The world is not expensive at all in FFXIV. Every zone has tons of invisible walls and sectioned off by loading screen. If you're going to design your expansive zones like instanced hubs then you may as well just cut out the money wasting bullshit. At the end of the day everyone idles at rhalgers reach or Limsa Lominsa. If you want to do a raid or dungeon you never ever have to leave those places, just queue for it from a HUD menu. It makes absolutely no sense to continue wasting server space and money to crank out these dead underlitized zones.

>>388468591
Like many said before the expansion, swimming is just underground flying mounts.

Just flying mounts was actually faster to get around so it had that sole benefit.

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>>388469106
>Being so young that you think FF10 is the first game in the series to not have levels.
>Being so young you don't know that some of the spinoffs straight up ignore the overall concept of "leveling" entirely.

>>388468369

I agree for the most part, I did say it wasn't great content to begin with. It doesn't have to be a 1:1 replication of WoW's system and it wouldn't be just because XIV is extremely limited by the amount of rewards it gives already. The reward for doing the equivalent of mythic+ for XIV would be like glamours, emotes, mounts. Really as long as there's damage/hp scaling with time trial stuff and maybe leaderboards, I think it'd be worth doing. Especially if they expand on it with modifiers and maybe random events like Aquapolis did. It could even be a better way to level if they throw in EXP cards, like 50% for completing a max difficulty dungeon in a set amount of time.

>>388469106
>what is FF2

>Friends refuse to play WoW or any other MMO even though they claim they are burnt out on XIV
>All they do is login for ex roulette and omega normal
>Praise it as the best thing ever and somehow have no other time in the day to commit to other games despite one being a neet

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>>388468385
I want Master Hamon to come back.

>>388469432
>>388469560
>muh FF2
Leveling up individual stats is still leveling.

>>388468591
You could swim in certain old areas. Also I have no doubt that swimming will eventually be used for a fight mechanic. Like tentacle rape monster drags a party member underwater and the healer must dive in and save them before they get eaten.

>>388468861
I definitely have to concede that point
If somehow YoshiP's team weren't so incompetent that they literally couldn't include underwater combat, I'm sure that underwater areas would literally just be full of worthless generic water sprites and be just as pointless as fighting anything in the above-ground overworld

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>>388468678
>"best gear or gtfo"
The "21k only or fuck off" parties are pretty bad, but this is easy to reach by hijacking someone's bath. One time I carried a Lugh fight while in S2 gear and a lv65 weapon (granted it took 50 minutes because the rest couldn't stop fucking up and my gear is just shit, but it's possible). It's a game solvable with skill and is a lot less gear reliant than XIV where every minor upgrade boosts your number significantly and you need to pass dps checks
Also despite having jack shit in terms of content I'm very impressed that it managed to keep even 6 year old raids relevant and people run that shit EVERY DAY while everything before SB is practically dead. And the former game had maybe 500 people on it.

>>388469106
FF2's system is hard to even call leveling up, and FF8 makes leveling up redundant. That's saying nothing about shit like Vagrant Story, Crystal Chronicles, etc.

>>388469765
>FF2's system is hard to even call leveling up
It literally says your stats have leveled up. It's leveling.
>FF8 makes leveling up redundant
Still has levels.
>Vagrant Story
Only takes place in Ivalice. Not a FF game.
>Crystal Chronicles
You get level ups at the end of a dungeon.

>>388469636
>Smacking yourself until your stat goes up is leveling.
>Grinding a dungeon until you get an equip with a "level" attached to it that boosts your overall ilevel is not leveling because ??????

>>388467898

You shouldn't all stack for Blizzard 3 because it doesn't target everyone and it's a waste to force casters to move even if they aren't targeted.

Also, there might be good reasons people are running around during black holes. Sometimes you have to run pretty far as a DPS to get out of the way of all the moving black holes and find a safe spot for Fire 3 that isn't blocking anyone's path.

>>388469608
if you already play XIV then why in gods name would you switch to WoW? that's like switching from piss to shit.

>>388467898
How do you check for Exfaust pass on fflogs? Do people upload failed runs there?

>>388468168
>Having someone teach you
DRG here, get good scrub.

>>388468234

Not him, but nah, SB's soundtrack just isn't very memorable.

>>388469895
>You get level ups at the end of a dungeon.
Actually you just loot that gives you passive buffs.
The game literally has 0 levelups and runs entirely on loot and armor.

>>388470131
I respect your opinion although it's a bit homosexual

>>388469714
Why the fuck isn't there a roulette for raids? It's impossible for me to go past Gordias, and it sucks because the first part of Midas that I did do was one of the funnest raid fights I've seen in the game so far.

>>388470163
>get "loot" that's only equipment in name that gives permanent stat boosts
>i-it's not leveling because it s-says it's equipment...
They're levels. It doesn't matter what they call the part of the menu where you get to look at them.

>>388470231

Same to you my faggoty friend. Wanna rub dicks together?

>>388470239
raid roulette in 4.1

>>388470028
WoW is in a much better place right now even without considering 7.3 coming out this week. Theres been jack shit to do in XIV for months now besides ex roulette and omega weekly which I don't need anymore since its so damn easy to get geared in 4.0.

>>388469992
>Casters
Doesn't even matter for BLM, BLM can simply do slidecast F4 > swiftcast F1 > BTL for the first blizzards. And they can use their initial triplecast to get into the stack. RDM can dualcast one thing and swiftcast the next. And who even plays SMN?

>>388456867
>The 2.5 second GCD allows people with higher pings to not experience game breaking latency
You should never seign your game for simpletons or people who can't play it correctly
>It also gives players more time to think about what they're going to do next instead of just going off of pure muscle memory
There's nothing to think about. There are rotations, just like WoW. There's just as much reliance on muscle memory as WoW, it's just slowly.
>This actually makes roles like Healing fun instead of god awful stress ulcer inducing hell
No? It makes it much more boring, so much so that they have to give you an entire (boring) DPS kit to fill the gaps in your activity.
>People are wondering how the game went from 4 million to 10 million in just one expansion
Accounts made. Actual subs hover beneath 460,000.

>Be Samurai
>Have lots of skill speed
>GCD is like 2.09

Ayyy

>>388470474
>WoW is in a much better place right now
not really, WoW caters more to the hardcore crowd if you're into that but they completely abandoned casuals and midcore

>>388459774
>go to fflogs
>find high parses
>pretend it's you
Yeah, I don't think so "Infina Ayano"

>>388468418
I've played BRD, AST, SCH, DRG, DRK, RDM & BLM

none of them were great, BRD actively pissed me off. DRK was the best because of the last quest, but everything until the last quest was pure shite.

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>once in a 500 year flood in my backyard
>all I can think about is capping tomes for the week
What has Yoshida done to me?

>>388470326
And this is different from your item level...how exactly? You can choose to not use those buffs, just like you can choose not to use your armor in FF14. How is this any different?

>>388470239
same reason there isn't a roulette for extreme primals. people are scared to death of failing and wasting their time. it's a shame desu. raids and primals are way more fun than dungeons

>>388470658
Mythic+ gives tons of content for casuals and midcore. Its not even particularly hard, but gives them a way to gear up. Plus they have fleshed out side shit like pet battles.

>>388461231
this

i don't even raid but if i did i'll probably out rank everyone without even trying

>>388470857
>Mythic+ gives tons of content for casuals and midcore
see
>>388468264
>>388468369

also
>pet battles
fucking stop, if I wanted to play Pokemon then I would play that instead of a cheap knockoff with a sub fee tacked on.

>>388470774
That's actually pretty sad. Go have some life experiences.

>>388467582
Gw2 does not have a general anymore

>>388470857
If we got pet battles instead of verminion people would hate on it and complain about it non stop just the same. If you think getting zerg rushed by that one op minion is bad, pokemon style games have even more cancerous metagames, and you can't even overpower people with raw skill/micro there.

>>388471035
Sounds way better than XIV's 2-3 dungeon roulette that doesnt even give gear of importance.

Where is a legit place to buy Gil? I want to buy a mansion in kugane.

>>388470635
>be Samurai
>stacking skill speed for this tier because fuck RNG
>AST puts solo Arrow on me
>1.88 gcd
>the BLM in tryhard gear should've gotten it because he was doing more dps
it's a complex array of feelings

>>388470996
you won't because people who raid are in autistic weekly locked gear. if you started now you'll be extremely behind and not outrank anything by simple virtue of having worse gear

>>388470104

Exdeath shows up as its own encounter, just like Faust in Alex

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>>388471324
Gil is not the impediment to getting a house. If you aren't already flush with gil you probably aren't going to get a house because you obviously don't care enough.

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>>388470695
>BRD

>>388462295
>fuckoff

Well that's a bit ironic. You'll have try hards in every game but at least they're remotely competent when push comes to shove. Put them on ignore and you'll finish the duty eventually.

The flip side is a barrel of drooling morons who are bad, don't care that they're bad, react with hostility to anyone who tries to be helpful and feels entitled to your time and the fruits of your labor.

>>388471494
Eh. People who start late also have a huge skill gap. You can speculate about reasons for that but it's an observable fact.

>>388471675
i haven't seen any player in my dungeon roulletes beat my dps yet
i get a commendation every run probably because i can turn a 30 minute expert dungeon into a 20 minute.

>>388471819
Dungeon roulettes are not what I mean, as you should be able to intuit by the phrase 'start late'.

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>>388471675
I guess it's true. I've been improving my numbers each week even in the same gear
Although party comps also matter. People who get fuck you numbers are in well coordinated statics and hot ""meta"" party comps

>>388471819
>30 minute expert dungeon
playing with randos must be the worst fucking thing imaginable

>>388470239

You can clear Alexander (normal) pretty easily via Party Finder. You're never going to get a group for Savage though.

>>388470386

Raid Roulette will only be for Alliance raids

>>388470812

There is a roulette for Extreme trials, it's called the Mentor Roulette. I don't believe it has 8-man raids though.

>>388471819
anon, all expert roulettes are supposed to be 15 minutes per good run

Could Hildy's Mom 1v1 Full Power Zenos?

>>388470695
I think DRG is great just on the grounds that beyond the first questline, you are no longer a student, you are the master, the best DRG in the land, where as every other questline you're being taught by someone else whose better than you.

>>388471819

You're the kind of person who needs to get humbled a little by being in a group with an ACTUAL good player.

So many people think they're hot shit until they actually try Savage and learn the harsh truth.

>>388472097
i'm not autistic enough to buy food and potions to make an expert roulette be 5 minutes faster

>>388472198
Yeah, I can totally destroy a castle-sized cannon in one hit, just like Estinien, the inferior DRG.

I just hit 70 is it too late to catch up on savage content? I feel like I missed out.

>eh?
>it now eclipses WoW.
God I hate stupid redditors.

>>388472198
m8, estinien pops up just to show how much better he is at drg than you.
And the entire questline was playing dragon match maker by making dragon child yell at his dumbass parent.

>>388472339
It's not too late, but if you're pugging you will generally have slower progression due to playing with a less-skilled pool of players. Next tier doesn't come out for another 5 months or so still.

>>388472307
Estinien and the WoL are equals as DRG, but they are masters of different ideals. Estinient is likely the best dragon slayer in all of Eorzea, since he has more experience than you and solely fights dragons, but the WoL, as the questline says, have taken the teachings of the Dragoon to whole new levels, using the skills of a Dragoon to slay things besides dragons, and expand on it's skill set in ways no other Dragoon ever has, to the point that other Dragoons want the WoL to teach them his ways so they may grow stronger and more skilled in their ways. It's clear that the WoL as a DRG is far more skilled in the variety of ways they can fight as a DRG, rather than being a one trick pony against dragons.

>>388471551
What. Are you trying to say it takes skill to buy a house?

>>388472279
>thinking you need consumables for 15m experts
guess you still have some improving to do

>>388472570
I'll probably one of those less skilled players too since I play BLM. The fights look crazy.

>>388472279
15 minutes is for a no food, no potions no tryhard run with everyone doing their job. i was in a run with a 0dps healer and it took 16 minutes. exactly one minute longer than usual

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>>388472198
For some reason I'm not a big fan of that kind of praise showering

>>388473163
Gotta keep Kirito paying his sub, bud.

>>388472702
>rather than being a one trick pony against dragons.
You'd think that killing dragons on the regular would make killing non-dragons seem a fair bit easier.

Got 950 veritys what to buy?