Why aren't western devs more open to IP crossovers compared

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The japanese don't have much cross over either. Literally only fighting games and rhythm games.

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>>388420381
But they are

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>>388420497
>Literally only fighting games and rhythm games.
I mean you're kinda right still

>>388420381
Jewish copyright laws?

>>388421042
Oh yeah, and SRPG. Super Robot Wars and so on. Still it really isn't all that much.

Isnt it because most media is controlled by like 2 or 3 companies over there, so copyright bullshit isn't as hard to get through?

>>388420497
the wrongest man to ever exist

like seriously are you fuckin serious dude?

when did you start playing video games, yesterday?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossovers_in_video_games

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>>388422427
>OP post a picture of a cross over game
>anon posts a wiki page that includes literal easter egg characters, background art and games with one guest character
I am impressed, really.

>>388422529
Wow you read and analyzed that entire page and mentally categorized all of it pretty well dude i am seriously blown away, what is your secret to reading and absorbing all of that info so fast? like within seconds?

also where was the stipulation stated anywhere that we were only talking about characters?

>>388421042
more like they are kinda fucking wrong. japan's been making massive crossovers since the fucking NES days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famicom_Jump:_Hero_Retsuden (1989)

like really just fucking unreal guys do any of you play video games at all?

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>>388422659
>Wow you read and analyzed that entire page and mentally categorized all of it pretty well dude i am seriously blown away, what is your secret to reading and absorbing all of that info so fast? like within seconds?
Being able to read. The amount of cross over characters is in the brackets besides the title.
Are you saying that you didn't read the article you yourself posted? Did you just google "cross over video gaem" and posted the first link you could find, hoping to "btfo" me?

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>>388420497
>Literally only fighting games and rhythm games.

and Super Robot Wars

>>388422823
>doesn't have an article
>JUMP games
so, what IPs that are not JUMP are in that game?

>>388422831
>Being able to read.
You read 4,500 words in ... 2 minutes or less?

>>388420381
It's an endless struggle of trying to appease every rights holder at the same time. Certain characters can't be portrayed certain ways or have things happen to them despite it happening to other characters etc etc etc

Remember how in Mortal Kombat 9, Kratos couldn't have Fatalitys performed on him? Sony didn't want him looking weak. Shit like that.

>>388420381
cross company crossovers or crossovers in general?

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>>388422994
Well, you can skip "scrapped" section and anything that hasn't to do with video games (i.e. 3/4 of the page), because I assume OP means cross over between video game IPs (like you know, his fucking image). And with the video game list you get loads of double entries like tony hawk so you can ignore them. Then you see you have like 50~ series that feature crossover, in a market that has thousands.

I'm not saying Cross overs don't exist, I'm saying they're very small fraction of the market.

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>>388420497

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>>388423295
> I'm saying they're very small fraction of the market.

doesn't help that companies sabotage their own crossovers at times.

biggest example. Turing this crossover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo

into some abomination that looks like NEITHER SERIES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fS24IxelBA

>>388422823
>not knowing about a very specific japan only series about jump crossovers = never playing vidya at all
Whilst I agree this thread is dumb, let's not jump to conclusions. You could spend 100% of you life playing vidya and never know about this.

>>388423507
And even then, it's barely a cross over when Shueisha holds all the rights to begin with.

mario vs sonic at the olmypics = crossover
Son Goku and Luffy eating sushi = not a crossover

At least in my book.

>>388420497
SRW is still big in nipland FYI. Albeit not as much as in the past but still.

>>388420381
If you're only counting cross company crossovers and are referring to copyright holders as "devs" off the top of my head there's;
Mortal Kombat and Injustice
Shovel Knight
Poker Night
Marvel crossing over with Capcom
Disney crossing over with Final Fantasy
Rayman cameo in Smash Bros for some reason
Mario and Rabbids
Play Station All Stars characters
Forza Horizon 3 having a fictional car from Final Fantasy
the proposed Samus and Link cameos in that Marvel Game
Soul Calibur having western guest characters
Ready Player One

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Fucking when?

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>>388424248
>SRW is still big in nipland FYI. Albeit not as much as in the past but still.

it's biggest "game" is a mobage at this point.

No new crossover has been announced. No new OG game has been teased (probably the death of Excellen's VA affected things)

>>388424590
They already have like 3 cross over games though?

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>>388424590

:^)

>>388425173
One that isn't a party game.

>>388425534
>Nintendo
>not a party game

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>>388423403
it was good game and decent crossover merge
>>388424553
>Ready Player One
it's not a crossover, it's gathering of references upon references for sake of references.
That book is fucking terrible.

>>388427039
>decent crossover merge

no it wasnt

>>388424597
>No new OG game has been teased (probably the death of Excellen's VA affected things)
well to be frank SRW V released not that long ago, let's give them some time. until TGS,
gimme new tease you fuckers
>it's biggest "game" is a mobage at this point.
>watching every SRW stream filled with cross omega
I don't know why I keep doing it

>>388427125
It was, just not the one you build in your head based on absolutely zero info
your own fault

>>388427260
>absolutely zero info

ahem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo

>>388427473
while I agree that this trailer was unneeded, still
>old artwork slideshow from two separate franchises
>not even concept art or genre mention
this trailer could lead to absolutely anything and never life up to expectations of everyone
I'd get if they shown concepts of entirely different thing, but they didn't

>>388420381
Because Japanese devs seem to enjoy making dumb, fanwanky cash-ins instead of actual video games.

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>>388427732
When I see Shin Megami Tensei, I at least expect some fucking demons and fusing them. Even god damn Persona can get that much right. Though Fire Emblem at least has the flimsy excuse that the stands look vaguely like some characters from two of the games and get to share their names and voice actors too.

>>388428193
theme wise involvement wasn't great, I agree. Could've deal with less references and more actual involvement. That's why I called it only decent.
I still say that from mechanics standpoint it seemed pretty okay of a crossover

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>>388428457
I still say even mechanics wise, there really wasn't anything very "SMT" about it, since the demon recruiting and fusing is pretty much an integral part of it. The best you can say is that exploiting weaknesses and getting an advantage for doing so is the SMT part of it, and that's pretty flimsy.

>>388428791
Well aside of fusing and such - there is also main gameplay - aka dungeons and battlesystem

I fucking hate crossovers. I'm already against bringing back characters because the more you recycle them and force it down everyone's throat the more they lose their charm and value. Cameos are already bad, but crossovers take it to a whole other level of retardation with characters that have no business being in a setting that's not their own. Just really poor, lazy fanservice and I'm baffled that it somehow works every time.

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>>388429425
I never seen anyone in my life being this assblassted over pure existence of such a fun thing as crossover.
geez

>>388424553
most of those are Japanese games portraying non-video game related western characters
they have nothing to do with the western gaming industry

>>388427862
>implying the vs fighting game series aren't better than any western trash

>>388424553
>Marvel crossing over with Capcom
>Disney crossing over with Final Fantasy
initiator was japan side in both of this cases

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>>388429592
>I never seen anyone in my life being this assblassted over pure existence of such a fun thing as crossover.

I know.

>>388421303
More like two; Sony and Kadokawa. There's a good reason why so many crossover games are PS exclusive.

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>>388430303
>that image
fucking perfect.
I never played SRW in JP, I hope eventually either I will be able to read this hilarious stuff or it get fantranslated.
too bad it won't be Alpha

>>388420381
>only SF, SF subsidiaries, and Darkstalkers on Capcom side
>no Kula, Clark, Ralf, Metal Slug chars or Waku Waku 7 chars on the SNK side
That said, if this were a thing, Jedah/Alex/Yamazaki all the way.
I still hold out hope Ono can negotiate a Nintendo vs. Capcom without triggering Miyamoto's "family fun" autism.

>>388429592
I don't like seeing characters I knew, loved or recognized being gouged out of their natural habitats to be featured in obvious cashgrabs.
To this day I'm still glad that that SMTxFE game never existed, because I loved the two series individually and it would be a massive disrespect to both if they were randomly smashed together.

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>>388431157
So you are saying that hate fun, and in general pretty miserable human being
gotchu
it's okay anon, no one is perfect.

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>>388431483
>that you hate fun
these post are provided to you by bamco sea

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So what are your opinions on this?

>>388431483
I like fun when it doesn't come at the expense of fucking integrity.
Only the easily impressed would perk up at the sight of a character appearing in a completely foreign context just because it's teh epic xd.

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>>388422906
Missing the point, the fact that they are all under the same brand doesn't make Goku meeting Kenshiro any less of a crossover, but if you want to be picky about it, there's quite a few shonen sunday x shonen magazine crossovers too.
Anyways, best crossover right here.

>>388431929
mostly around
>we have this shitload of 2d sprites and after GGXrd we plan to use 3D engine, so we need to reuse those 2D sprites somehow quickly
aside of that seems ok, too bad I don't care about any of those 4 fighting games.

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they made the best waifu cross-over game

>>388432193
>No Kasumi because licensing issues.
I was pretty sad

>>388431929
It gives me hope that my own series might become popular enough to get its own video game or atleast get in a crossovevr

Why the hell is RWBY in there anyway, is it really that popular?

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>>388432016
>muh integrity
Oh, like Char from CCA being a piece of shit? Yeah, everyone LOVES that.
Or Shinji being crying little faggot? Get that bitch a Bright slap!
Or entirety of Seed? Holy crap what an abomination.
Originally written character is not equals good written one.

SRW fucking fixes shitty writing of those characters. Fuck your integrity.
And if character nicely written, crossovers help to learn more about them without compromising integrity.

>>388432425
The guy who made Blazblue really fucking likes it

>>388432494
>help to learn more about them
This can be done without compromising integrity by (wait for it) writing another fucking work featuring them instead of forcefully cramming them into a room with a bunch of other trafficked victims.
There are many, COUNTLESS well written characters that are contained within their own universe, with their own finished stories. There's no need to mutilate them by bringing them back.

>>388431929
i would be happier if it was Blazblue vs Guilty Gear

i hope i still have the chance to pit Sol vs Ragna or Noel vs Dizzy

>>388429876
4 out of 11 isn't most.

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>>388433463
>being this salty
Okay, I know how to please you
let's stop writing sequels and prequels
let's stop talking about what if scenarios
let's stop making remakes
let's stop localizing
everything that kills/changes/nudges the integrity of characters after all. It is not allowed to exist.
you still do not realize how retarded you sound? You want them exist in perfect space with no influence from anywhere. Being stagnant. Without any development. It's not good for any character, it's just a certain death

>>388431929
Excited as a P4A player, especially since P5 came out and we could see chars from that, but I'm worried my mains in those games won't drop, as well as my only character I play in Blazblue, and I'll just be left with some folks I don't really know or care about, eliminating my urge to buy this game.
RWBY is hard overrated and I feel like the game's being overhyped just because it's being included.

>>388420381
Because western IP holders are way more anal about copyright.

>>388432112
>too bad I don't care about any of those 4 fighting games.

thw top is not even a fighting game. It's a sub-par 3d CGI show made by Americans (specifically, Rooster Teeth)

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>>388421042

洋ゲーでクロスオーバーってハゲの白人キャラしか出ないゲームかな

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>>388433463
>compromising integrity

being in a silly spinoff compromises nothing. Everyone (but you) knows it's a silly spinoff

>>388434730
Also your daily reminder that Project X Zone 1 is canon in SRW OG universe

>>388420497
>the only major crossover game in the west in recent memory is just TF2 x Various Stale Memes From Before The Player Was Born

>it's just a shitty poker game made to shill TF2 items

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>>388434863
>Also your daily reminder that Project X Zone 1 is canon in SRW OG universe

I know and it's great.

Same with ACE:R being canon in SRW OG universe

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>>388434863
Wish Sanger would've been back in PxZ2 with Ratsel as a partner.

>>388434935
Remind me, which TF2 character was in the second poker game?

>>388434730
>buttbothered replies to each post
>call anybody salty
Nice hypocrisy there.
Prequels and sequels are fair game. Nobody said anything about those. Get your reading comprehension checked.

>with no influence from anywhere.
>Without any development
They can be influenced by things within their own world, develop as characters throughout their own stories, all written by their own author, retard. Did you ever read a fucking book/story that's NOT capeshit or a chink crossover in your life? An aspiring knight doesn't need to face off against Darth Vader to develop as a fucking character.

>>388434730
>it's a silly spinoff
I know.

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remember the time this character was hit on by a bunch of shitty harem characters and she turned them all down?

good times

>>388434407
why do all the characters in the x series have such terrible design

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>>388435007
I wish, anon
I wish
>>388434997
>Same with ACE:R being canon in SRW OG universe
wait, elaborate on that please, I don't know much about ACE:R

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>>388435272
this anime looks like substance-less waifu bait shit

>that pose at the end
jesus christ. garbage. waifu bait softcore fap for neckbeard weaboo garbage

>>388432425
>is it really that popular?
it's insanely popular for no reason

its probably mostly motivated by porn and risque/eechi scenes, like every other fotm anime

>>388435364
>wait, elaborate on that please, I don't know much about ACE:R

pretty much, Ryusei and Kyouske got sucked through a portal to the world of ACE:R while having a mock battle at the TLI facility. They also ran into Masaki who somehow got SO FUCKING LOST he wandered into that dimension.

At the end everyone goes through portals to get home and they wind up in Las Gaias

it's mentioned that they went MIA during 2ndOG and they pop up in 2ndOG in the machines the use in ACE:R (Ryusei/ART-1 & Kyouske/Alteisen Riese) in the Las Gaias part (specifically the Lune route).

When asked about the ordeal, Kyouske goes "long story" and Masaki talks to his cats and basically goes "let's not mention what we just went through"

>>388435615
>substance-less
confirmed for not watching the show.

>>388435749
>not watching the show.
I don't watch trash.

>>388432193
two bombs werent enough

>>388435715
>>388432930

really?

I tried to watch it, couldn't get into it. Mostly because it just looks terrible visually.

I have nothing against MMD but it looks like it was MMD and that just sounds like a terrible idea for an action oriented show.

Should I give it another try?

>>388436279
no

>>388435715
>For no reason
For all the nips know, they've got their A-list seiyuus voicing the characters and they've got cool weapons to look at, that was apparently enough.
>>388436279
I was completely enthusiastic about it too and I still am but there are like 3-5 decent moments. It's not something I'd bemoan if you missed out on it, it's still pretty mediocre

>>388432193
I should try to get this to work on PPSSPP

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>>388435749
>They also ran into Masaki who somehow got SO FUCKING LOST he wandered into that dimension.
Classic Masaki
>it's mentioned that they went MIA during 2ndOG and they pop up in 2ndOG in the machines the use in ACE:R (Ryusei/ART-1 & Kyouske/Alteisen Riese) in the Las Gaias part (specifically the Lune route).
damn, since it already has all dialogue text translation out there I need get to it

Thanks anon!

>>388436418
That was supposed to be unenthusiastic

>>388436540
>since it already has all dialogue text translation out there I need get to it

here it is:
http://2ndsrwoge.com/#chapters

>>388436540
>Classic Masaki
The scene from the OG side (Crossbone side is slightly different) has them being swarmed by enemies in the new world. Ryusei goes "man, if we only had the Cybuster right now?" and Masaki goes "You called?", flies in, and Cyflashes everything. Then they have a standoff with the Crossbone people

Copyright and licensing laws are a bitch

>>388436830
I have ACE:R actually, but was really confused with controls so couldn't play it for too long
Need to get back to that too...
backlog is too fucking huge
>here it is:
yeah, I know where. But thanks anyway
New ACE when, FROM?

>>388421150
That and also fucking scumbag Disney...forcefully buying out everything that could threaten him.

>>388437198
>I have ACE:R actually, but was really confused with controls so couldn't play it for too long

I think I used the control scheme that allowed me to change the weapon panel by button press (not holding) and change mech forms via the right stick

and the Platinum sucks

>>388437646
I think it's just question of habit, I played with worse control schemes
just need to get some time to get used to them

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suffer with me

>>388420381
Japanese companies are bigger fans of celebrating things both within their own companies and out. Smash Bros. eventually started celebrating non-Nintendo IPs, A.C.E. and Super Robot Wars celebrate mecha animes. Konami's rhythm game branch does song crossover within the games but also includes non-Konami music.

As far as western devs doing crossovers, Mortal Kombat has crossed with the DC universe, once in a Mortal Kombat game and twice in both DC games albeit all three games being developed by NRS.

>>388421042
The PS2 one is called Capcom X Namco. It's really hard compared to the 3DS games.

>>388434407
Segata Sanshiro?! what the actual fuck is that game?

>>388441752
simple srpg

>2017
>still no Virtua Fighter vs Tekken

>>388442067
Dead or Alive already borrowed Virtua Fighter characters but mostly because some Virtua Fighter devs hopped on to the Dead or Alive team (correct me if I'm wrong).

>>388442218
Sega is handling sales and other shit for Dead or Alive in Europe. Part of that agreement was to include Virtua Fighter characters.