>"Kaz, I'm already a demon." >Does

Caring about anything that "Big Medic" has to say.

>>388376182
Kojima didn't have the balls to make him train those kids as soldiers and then having them killed in the battlefield to make Venom the demon we wanted.

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>>388376291

>>388376316
I wish the invisible hand of the Fiction Police didn't have its grip so tight around media these days

>>388376182
he mixed up a dog and a wolf tho

He became Big Boss, he 'thought' he was a demon because he thought he shared the same tragic past.

It was a joke about the horn

>>388377006
Huey, leave.

>>388376182
>destroys the life of two children
>fails to prevent the destruction of mother base and deaths of his comrades
>takes shrapnel to the head and loses his arm
>is dragged back into the world 9 years later despite all this
>Wants to exact petty revenge, and doesn't give a shit about anything else

That's why.

>>388377897
wat

ground zeroes snake and tpp snake are different people

>in trailer "I'm *3 second pause" already a demon"
>in game"imalreadyademon"

>>388376532
Does Venom even know hes medic?

>>388376291
getting killed by solid automatically puts venom above solidus

>>388378002
...and TPP snake has all the memories of Ground Zero snake. What're you struggling with exactly?

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>>388377897
You are mixing things, up. Ground Zero is Big Boss. TPP is Venom(Medic)

You can also tell this because BB is 6'5". the images of Venom next to Miller have them at the same height.

Miller is only 5'8".

>>388377897
>wants to exact petty revenge and doesn't give a shit about anything else
Wrong, you're thinking of Miller. In the very same breath that Venom says he's a demon, he also says this isn't about the past but fighting for the future, a sentiment that repeatedly returns throughout the game, especially as Venom demonstrates that he isn't fixated on revenge.
>>388378002
>>388378475
>>388378493
Nothing about what he said implied they were the same person, everything he said is a harsh description of Venom failing to find the second bomb and the consequences of it.

>>388378493
And again, Venom has all the memories of Big Boss. Did you guys not play the game?

>>388378561
The second bomb wasn't venom...

The second bomb was Big Boss.

>>388376182
>We can't even make 'VENOM DID NOTHING WRONG' jokes because he actually didn't do anything wrong.
Wasted potential.

>>388378606
>all the memories
Yes, which was already stated as being planted. Memory foaming has been a thing for a long time in MGS verse.

>>388378207
He knows on a subconscious level that he's the medic, as shown by the Paz hallucination side-quest. However, he figures it out on a conscious level during Truth: The Man Who Sold The World.

>>388378207
if I understood correctly he figures it out towards the end of the game

>>388376532

Venom snake is the biggest cuck in video games.

"hahaha you're totally me, now go do my bidding you retarded cuck"

>>388378561
Totally doesn't give a shit about revenge.

BAM
There goes skull face's leg.
BAM
Oop. Goodbye arm.

We're fighting for the future though.

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>>388378561
>he also says this isn't about the past but fighting for the future

The trailer lied

>>388378561
>>388378493
>>388378002
>"Kaz, I'm already a demon."
he was talking about what GZ Boss did

>>388378561
He was literally the medic on the helicopter dumb ass. That's how he knows.

>>388378725
That was such a badly done reveal. The final mission just randomly appearing after Eli steals Sally, and it's just the tutorial mission again with a different ending cutscene. Then you magically get all those tapes of Zero, Ocelot and BB from no where.

>>388378705
So what's your point? Planted or not, Venom thinks he's BB. Everything that's happened to BB up to the end of GZ is now what Venom believes has happened to him... and he's dragged back 9 years later as a total fucking wreck. He now thinks he must exist as a demon - no other man would come back from death having committed his failures. His only goal is to build up DD in order to fight XOF and get revenge.

Meanwhile, real BB doesn't think he's a demon. He's off to enforce the Boss's will, once again.

>>388378561
>Nothing about what he said implied they were the same person

>>destroys the life of two children

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>>388378862
anon it lied on alot of things

>>388379093
>what you believe is what you are

No, your actions are what you are. And Venom isn't BB because his actions.

>>388379023
This may be news to you but

The game was unfinished

>>388379157
We're not arguing about whether or not Venom is BB. We're arguing about whether or not Venom believes he's BB when he says "I'm already a demon".

And it's undisputed. You're entirely wrong - he does indeed believe he's the real BB.

>>388378812
Oh, shut the fuck up, Huey. I didn't say he didn't want revenge. I said it's blatantly wrong that his only goal and motivation is revenge.
>>388378873
Yes, but he still thinks he's GZ Boss at that point.

>>388379303
And the original post state HE killed the kids, and that HE did do those actions.

He did not. His actions are not Big Bosses, which choices are as you stated clearly not BBs. So he is in no way BB.

faggot ass goal poster

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>>388378493
>"BB is 6'5"
>Image clearly shows BB at Kaz's height.
>Even if you subtract the padding of the boots that increase their height levels, BB would still look a bit smaller

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>>388379684
http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mgs/character/ch20.html

>192cm
>6.4 feet without shoes

http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mgs/character/ch20.html

>>388380192
From that post onwards, everything you say is wrong

>>388379684
easy on the razor Boss

>>388380352
>wrong
>all facts pulled from Metal Gear official sites and Kojima
>wrong
Yup, facts are now wrong.

It's fucking hilarious as it is as in MGS they have BB as 6'4/5" and yet that BB is really Venom. Not BB. And he is 5'10".

>>388376182
Maybe it was a joke, but it came out wrong:
>"Kaz, I'm already a demon. See the horn? lol"

>>388380505
You're taking the joke too far

STOP

>>388380493
audible chuckle

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>>388380505
If facts are wrong now.... That must mean....

FAIRY! GOD! PARENTS! exist

>>388381510
>THIS IS WHERE MY ARM WOULD BE
>IF I COULD FEEL IT!

>>388377897
None of this shit was even Big Boss' fault.