Are there games like Haven & Hearth that don't require

Minecraft.

>>388364250
That's barely survival and building. It's square legos

>>388364804
Then Ark: Survival Evolved.

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>>388364804
It also fulfills your every criteria. Eat a dick.

>>388364857
Dont some of the dinos in that game take ages to tame?

Ya can play Wurm Unlimited and speed thing up in world options

>>388364972
You can increase the time it takes. I played the shit outta this game for a few weeks but it too gets old. I found haven and hearth on here after never seeing it elsewhere and was hoping for another hidden gem. Seems most posts are about popular games so thought I would start thread.

>>388365173
Wurm has been around for a long time right? I remember trying it unfinished and thinking it had potential, I'll check this one out.

>>388364972
Only if you do it wrong. There is a progression system. You tame dinos, get their eggs, use them to make kibble to tame bigger dinos. There are hororr stories of it taking 8 hours to tame something but this is because they are doing it without kibble.

>>388364898
God damnit
Can you imagine
Just picking her up and using her

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>>388365375
Well atleast she would had trouble running away

Stardew Valley

>>388365647
This was fun, I tried it recently again. The lack of any danger and the tiny feel of the world is limiting though. I had more fun with the original game its based off (can't remember name)

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Unreal worlds looks good and has been around forever but has a story book feel to it and i've never been able to get far.

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>>388363490
God damn Haven was so comfy when I was addicted to it. You take a small piece of land, build a wall and then get a serious case of xenophobia when you realize everyone wants to kill you. But inside your small fortress you are safe for a while.

No other game has replicated that feeling for me.

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>>388366532
Unreal is pretty sweet. Looks like they updated the sprites recently. Used to look like this.

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>>388367032
>Unreal is pretty sweet.
I agree

Does anyone here play haven?, I'm thinking of throwing a village up

>>388366707
That was pretty comfy. I got stuck trying to find some metal. Such a pain and time consuming. The paranoia was real

>>388367389
Metal is easy as fuck to find now

>>388363490
rimworld?

>>388367229
OP here, I gave in and relaunched it. I wish I had left my stuff on my, all I have are axe and shit armor.

>>388367476
Is there a trick to it or just more common?

>>388367530
I saw a post about Rimworld which is what got me started on this hunt for a survival game. Rimworld is another I have played this shit out of. After rewatching every video by that Primitive Technology guy I want some medieval stuff. If only Medieval Life was better.

>>388367721
A lot more common, the only problem is finding good quality metal

>>388367476
>>388367721
>>388367909
Not that guy but last time I played, there was metal rocks spawned around the surface randomly. But after a while everyones already taken them. I'm probably gonna play next time they reset the world.

>>388365375
those chicken-legs are an instant turn-off

>>388368140
I'm surprised they haven't yet. I think I had started around the last reset. How do you find a group to play with? It seems like making a village would make this much more fun and tolerable with splitting time.

>>388364857

Dont play ark. Its seriously trash. I played it a bunch when it first came out and the game has been thankfully easier to play now since you can easily make materials that would take hours to grind before and kibble makes taming dinos easier.

But the issue is that there is no end game. You build up a big fort or whatever, tame all the dinos you want and then.. thats basically it. If you play on a server with people, you basically just go out and kill their shit, destroy their buildings and basically reset them, but that will also happen to you. I guess thats fun or whatever? But its super easy to get the best shit if you know what youre doing/where to go and honestly the pvp is imbalanced as fuck. I seriously recommend just playing something else.

>>388368940
This is the problem with a lot of these survival games. The fun of learning and exploring wears off and you find you are just grinding. The only solution is to find another game or wait a year and come back.

>>388368483
Playing in a village is really the only way to go unless you hermit and do everything yourself which is a pain in the ass, all the big well known villages only take in people they know and the game peaks at about 280 so finding people is hard

>>388368483
I've played as a hermit for like 3 worlds and it's possible to have fun without a group, but it is much harder and pvp was out of the option for me. Maybe make a /vg/ thread and you could find a few people though.

>>388369190

Yeah. And i'll admit I was absolutely hooked on Ark for a good couple of months or so, but thats because it took so long to fucking really do anything. The server I was on had basically nobody on it only like a handful of people and it was peaceful. I was playing it like a job though, wake up and just be on it grinding shit, living day by day, learning to tame dinos. Shit was hard as fuck, especially if youre alone like I was, just making a small house took forever and I didnt really want to use any dinos which is a huge mistake.

Now though they have dinos that cover all your needs, I bet youd reach end game status a lot quicker than I did with how much better the newer dinos make the game compared to the 'originals'

>>388366707
Wurm online was that way for me, but it takes a while to get your character skills leveled up. Like years...

>>388369325
>>388369575
I didn't think of trying a general. At least one anon in here said they are interested though.

>>388369650
>because it took so long to fucking really do anything
This drives me nuts on these games. Artificial time added is not fun its work.
I ended up playing solo because of pvp and lag issues. I do wish I had watched others play earlier on, like you I spent far too long not using dinos which make the early game much much easier. Riding a wolf around was pretty fun

>>388369831
I have a small claim which is slowly expanding, if enough people are interested I'd put a village claim up

>>388370046
I'm in

>>388367032
desu I prefer that cramped, small-window old style

H&H is masterfully created in terms of the early game, but late game is garbage.
I play every new world for months before dropping it, and let me tell you that the relief I feel when I quit that shit is pure bliss.
Waking up and needing to do hours worth of chores in game is not a good feeling. It is for a while, don't get me wrong, but there's simply too much to do for the most part.
Cooking cupboards upon cupboards full of pies a day to keep up with the other top players is fucking awful. That nigga jorb needed to leave the stat cap in place, but no, he removed it for no fucking reason so enjoy the endless grind if you want to remain relevant.

>>388370736
Pretty much, and the russians have bots going 24/7 and just come and punch your walls down by hand with 800 strength

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>>388370736
>>388370883
This sounds pretty bad. I know that relief feeling from every MMO I've ever tried

>>388370883
If you speak CYKA BLYAT they won't kill you.

>>388370736
>>388370883
I can't stand half the community. The ones that bot all day, boast on forums about kills with broken english and xDDD. I really wish pvp was less of a thing in the game so those shitters could be avoided.

>>388371391
If they just ran a PVE world it would be much better, since the Russians' only source of fun comes from victimizing people who aren't Russian.

>>388371391
I havent seen any russian shittery on this new haven, but it was pretty bad on the old one

Did that 3D Haven game by the same guys ever come out?

>>388372025
Never heard of it. Seems like they didn't finish the isometric one though. I hope they didn't abandon it.

>>388372091
We might be talking about the same game. It was still an isometric camera, just with basic 3D graphics.

This game was super comfy, I just made a little house on a river bank set against a hill. No real defenses, I left food out for wanderers, I never had any harm come to me it was strange. I really enjoyed just exploring, charting, farming, etc.

>>388370883
Jorb and Loftar would easily be able to see who's botting by simply teleporting to players. But the game is under development and they need beta testing so it would be pretty detrimental to ban them, especially when they're the ones best at finding any exploit to win. There will probably be a time in the future when they'll just be banned.

>>388372025
Yes, they're still working on it and have been for maybe 2 years now since it's release. Last few updates have been pretty good from what I see but personally am waiting for a world reset to play again.

>>388372158
I think they did then. You can zoom in it looks 3d, also I think there is a command (maybe it was in the aurora client) that lets you see first person.

>>388372179
I had some bad times on my first character but ended up in a pretty quiet area the next time around (not counting asshold bears and boars) where the nearby players were friendly but mistrustful. I pretty much autoharthed from anyone though so I never found out if others were friend or foe.

To anyone considering Ark after the recommendation in this thread, don't play on official servers or private servers with vanilla rates. It has become a Korean MMO style grind at default settings.

Any tips for Haven & Hearth players not yet past the metal stage but at the wood pallisade (bone glue) stage?

>>388369820
>Like years
Wurm Unlimited is basically that with private servers so you can customize exp gain. IIRC they also have a "curve" where you can gain skill super fast at first but it levels out around mid-range so it's not too easy.

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>>388372025
yeah, looks like this now

>>388372862
Keep your keys on an alt. I think they added a visitor debuff thing but you still don't want to lose your keys.

>>388373067
So comfy looking.

Have these Scandinavian fucks never encountered a real fox?

Didn't HnH update into a shitty 3D game with sub time?

>>388373168
They basically made it so you can leave your gates open and not get robbed because of the visitor buff, you can also make slave keys so you can only open gates from the inside

I use a slave key and just hearth back inside my walls, so if I die or get killed by someone they cant take my key and get inside my place

>>388373350
They got rid of the sub time

>>388373365
>>388373168
That's a good idea. I seem to remember reading a further security method that involved an alt and the two gate system like this anon has
>>388373067

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>>388373067
what the fucj

>>388373350
Nope it's free.

>>388364898
would smash

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They also added custom images, so now we can do shit like this

>>388373728
You can donate and get a "verified" account

Full and unlimited gameplay
One extra column of inventory space
+20% character development rate
+50% convenience
Full and unlimited access to the Old Legacy Haven & Hearth (for as long as it lives)
An in-game hat in honor of your verification

Or subscribe
Full and unlimited gameplay
One extra row of inventory space
+30% character development rate
+100% convenience

And there is shit you can buy

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>>388374118
>>388374237

You naughty boy

There are 155 hearthlings playing.

>Among these, there are 55 from United States of America, 23 from Russian Federation, 13 from Canada, 10 from Brazil, and 9 from Republic of Korea.
+1 German

Here is my history of H&H

>Make a village
>It turns out leaving your gates open means Russians kill you
>Make another village
>It turns out if you give out a signpost to your village, Russians will build construction signs around it, and then teleport over your walls and kill you
>Make a village
>It turns out Russians can dig under your village and build fires, allowing them to teleport inside of your village
>Make a village
>It turns out Russians have been playing the game so long they can just bash your walls open with one guy and a sledgehammer so they don't even need to teleport anymore

>>388374225
You don't need any of that shit tho. I think most of the russians don't pay a cent because they can't afford it.

>>388374702
When did you play? Seems like there was a russian problem previously and maybe some exploits but I haven't seen any of that (may have been dumb luck). I do see 23 russians on now.

Also since when did they add foragable beach items that include dead squirrel?

>>388374719
The extra inventory and character rate seemed worth it for verify early on. With a leather backpack its less useful. Extra row is tempting though..

>>388375620
Those are whatever people have dropped into water, you can find some pretty good shit in those

say someone drops a bar of gold in a lake, then it will show up as one of those somewhere in the world

>>388375698
When I play I subscribe because it makes hermitting more reasonable.

>>388375929
I'm tempted to do that now. Not looking forward to the many days wait to get int up to reasonable level.

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Anyone anons want to start fresh with me?

>>388366263
If you manage to remember the name, please post it

>>388366707
The game community is so small now after the transition to 3D and since the world is 8 months old

Every person I met actually was nice

>>388366263
>>388379437
You mean harvest moon? or runefactory?
Maybe story of seasons as a sequel?

>>388379437
>Stardew Valley
It's called Harvest Moon.

>>388371391
>>388374702
Glad pvp was nerfed and murder isn't something you can do when you just feel like it now

>>388380149
How was it nerfed?

>>388363490

any games with multiplayer persistent world?

>>388380739
Haven and Hearth is both multiplayer and persistent. The only comparable game I've enjoyed was Ultima Online but that was over a decade ago.

>>388379437
>>388379981
>>388380024
yep Harvest moon is the one. I was crazy about Nami

>>388380149
Really?

>>388379847
Yeah I haven't run into anyone dangerous since I first started though I've been warned in game about those types.

>>388381139

> Haven and Hearth is both multiplayer and persistent

I forgot the word "other" in my question. Galaxy Online was the shit in this aspect. You had your own personal shitty base but the rest of the universe was fought between the rest of the factions because the planets were way better and yielded more resources.

>>388380604
>>388381139
I can't find the patch but you can't outright murder someone now.

Once they get knocked out by person or animal, you have the chance to log out or hearth back home while they can steal from you and leech you up if they must. To compensate pvp wounds are worse now or something

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>>388380604
>Galaxy Online
Ugh it wants my facebook to play. Is this one of those browser games? I played the shit out of Lands of Lords for a bit before I went too overboard with alts and burned out. I loved the castle and wall building aspect and how you trained your people but the combat was balls.

In Haven & Hearth what the hell is this leaf thing I keep seeing?

>>388381452
>pvp wounds are worse now or something
I've had fell slash or something for ages now and that was just from a boar when I found out they can go through fences.

>>388381671
They give you a speed boost for a few seconds

>set up a small hermit camp by a river by myself
>eventually work up to where i have a small fort with a pretty large farm and complete with palisade walls
>occasionally go out on expeditions to find curios and sometimes explore ruins of players who built settlements and abandoned the game, leaving their stuff to rot
>find tons of cool shit in ruins and take a moment to realize that these are natural ruins built by players, not generated by the game, and they were once great settlements
>sometimes travelers would come up the river and i would banter with them for a while before wishing them safe travels
>that comfy fucking fishing music
>tfw finding yourself on the player-made map and seeing how absolutely massive the map is
>tfw seeing how much of the map is still unexplored, with some players still living in there and never meeting many people
I miss the fuck out of it. It isn't the same now and I really don't like the 3D aesthetic they went with. Maybe I should give it another try soon.

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>>388381671

>Ugh it wants my facebook to play.

It's dead now. Galaxy Online had it's own standalone client to play and it was the shit.

Then we got Galaxy Online 2 on faceshit which was nothing like the original, just your shitty personal base upgrading shit took fucking days and then nothing happened.

Haven't played Galaxy Online 3 for mobile but I assume it's more facebook shit and less persistent world than the first one.

>>388381976
>jump in boat and see where the river goes
>grow increasingly paranoid the further you get from hermit camp
>pickup boat and hearth home
>back to tending farm

>>388382313

The biggest fear for me was getting lost. I remember getting lost while boating about and couldn't for the life of me find my way back. Took me like an hour of wandering to find my way back. Freaked the fuck out of me, I didn't know you could hearth back with your boat carried.

>>388382313
>playing with a few friends
>usually go out boating in my usual pattern, huntan and foraging
>decide one day to explore some new locations
>head down a river for maybe 15m
>suddenly meet 2 other boats
>one has 2 people in it and the other 1 person
>these are the first other people in the game other than my friends that i've met in this game
>i'm fucking scared shitless
>they tell me to stop and wait
>both boats go to coast, one of them pulls out a chest
>I know fuckall about the game and I am spooked out of my mind
>quickly boat to coast, pick up boat and hearth home

a bunch of people came over to our base later and completely fucked us over
I assume it was the same people that I met earlier

>>388383265
You can even hearth with it loaded with containers too (just verified it still works). Too bad you walk abysmally slow with the boat otherwise I would use when collecting logs.

>>388383897
Damn these are the horror stories I hear about. They were probably trying to block you with the chest. My first meeting on this character the person happened to know where I live and showed up with horse and weapons... and a dead moose. He kept leaving me corpses that weren't high enough quality for him but the meat was one stat increase per at ravenous so it was great for me. Got lucky with that one.

>>388384489
Friendly people in survival games are great, I had one in Haven who helped me make a whole palisade perimeter for my camp and in Ark some dude gave me an OP as fuck Carno.

Fuck you OP now I have the music in my head

>>388380604
Stench of murder

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>world 7 playing with one other guy in a quiet location
>palisade 90% done, just a small hole that has to be patched up
>two people approach the base and notice me inside
>they start running around the base towards the hole
>i run inside a house, climb down into the cellar and begin to logoff
>they find me and cancel my logoff timer
>they knock me out and loot me naked, say something in russian, then they begin looting cupboards nearby
>i wake up and run outside
>they both exit at the same time and get stuck inside each others bodies, giving me a moment to escape
>as i'm running i realize i don't have shoes on anymore
>get knocked out from 1 damage from thorn in foot
>russians catch up to me and finish me off without saying anything

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>>388385002
I think I'll log off now

>>388385186
Is this the original client before 3D?

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>>388386010
it's the original game, they reworked everything not just the client

>>388380149

It's a huge step in the right direction, PVP is good but most of what happened in the game was just douchebaggery that completely ruined the game for 95% of the playerbase. PVP is only a positive thing when it has a purpose and reason, random killings had neither.

Hopefully they keep going so that in the future we can have a game with more endgame depth and reasons to work together/trade with others.

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>>388387076
A lot of these "rules-free" player run games are plagued by this. The freedom allows asshats on discord to team up and ruin the game for everyone else.

Without the pvp its pretty fun

>>388386010
Nah it's a custom client

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>>388387076
>>388387596
y'all are just pussies who will never know what it feels like to crush your enemies in close combat and take their lives with a press of a key

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>>388366532
>>388367032
can confirm, been playing since high school and all day today

>>388388734
It's crazy to see it come up and find out it's still getting updates. I remember being excited about it what must have been 15 years ago.

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dead game, dead thread

This game had something approaching potential but the community reeked of dev circlejerk

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>hyped up for hafen
>it finally comes out
>microtransactions up the ass
>have to spawn randomly so good luck trying to play with people you know
>forums become a complete shitstorm
>game practically disappears from /vg/ after a few days

why

>>388391375
I didn't know dev circlejerks smelled like vodka and borscht.

You should really try this game, if you like your lifes time sucked out by shitty mechanics.

>>388391983
the evil russians meme

>>388363490
Cataclysm: DDA for singleplayer, check /egg/ for multiplayer.

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>>388363490
Factorio is my current favorite, but there is no shortage of survival/construction games on the market.

>>388391958
Yeah the playtime restriction was gay as hell and they removed it after some time. You can also spawn in people at your location using a wilderness beacon now.

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>>388363490
Stranded 2, it's also free
There's also stranded 1 but I've never checked it out

>>388391958
You can spawn with pals now via the wilderness beacon
And aside from the verification/subscription all the microtransactions are cosmetic
I still won't play because I refuse to grind for what others get for free via bots

>>388365375
>>>/d/7569741

Games like Haven&Hearth have the problem that they have no gameplay mechanics that encourage and reward society building in any meaningful way. It's all just collaboration to be more destructive and ruin everyone else's shit. Exclusive aggressiveness that doesn't create anything greater if you will. Total genocides of opponents are basically non-existent IRL. You want those puny peasants and others to keep enriching you.

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>>388396904
>encourage and reward society building in any meaningful way
boooring
>It's all just collaboration to be more destructive and ruin everyone else's shit
yes please

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>>tfw everyone has long since quit but you keep logging on just to repair the now empty houses

Man this thread make me want to play H&H again but holy fuck I know I won't be able to stand the infinite grind and community again and drop it in a few months
Also the curio system really ruined it for me.

>>388398369
Curio system is better for the environment. No bucket or basket factories.

>>388363490

This might seem like a bit of an odd suggestion, but try Life is Feudal, make your own server, tweak mining/gathering times and then just enjoy carving out and building up your own little slice of paradise innawoods.

I fucking love it.

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>>388398621
I know it's "for the best", it's just that the game was so much more fun for me with earning point by doing things rather than looking at statuettes and dragonflies for eons.
Also the /v/illage having 20 autists doing fuckall but littering buckets everywhere was kind of fun too.

This game is neat and all but it's a bit too much "reality simulator". Really it sucks up your entire life. Certain industries have time cycles that are real-life WEEKS long. Like try taming and breeding cattle for example, you have to play active over the course of real life months to be a succesful cattle farmer. And then you're always at the threat of someone just sacking your settlement while you're offline, so it's constantly in the back of your head even when you're not playing. I must admit i'm too "casual" for such a videogame. Even Dwarf Fortress is less hardcore than this.

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>>388398764
oh man now I'm thinking about all the old shit

>Some years back
>Thread on /v/ about H&H
>Decide to try it out, why not
>We all gather up some places
>We're around 30
>We have a shitton of hunters because they all thought it'd be the hot shit, little did they knew that hunting was dull as fuck for most of the time
>Most of them get fucked by a deer or moose, don't remember which the game have
>Just enjoy getting the fundations of our /v/illage up and running
>Fish a FUCKTON
>Everyone trying to get their own personal houses
>That general panic when some fucks ran back to the village with a boar at his ass
>Everyone was hauled in the only house built waiting for it to fuck off until I decided to yolo it up and run away after provocking it
>After that adventure we decided to have the rule of "if you have something at your ass, man or beast, run the opposing direction of the village"
>Trying to get a giant ass farm to feed us all

Man, good times

>playing current world H&H
>Joined the world a few weeks after reset. I heard the news a little late.
>One friend joins me while I'm looking for a place to settle, been boating for a couple hours
>Soon all our friends log on and want in on this
>Two full boats of noobs and me now exploring
>They desperately want to settle, so I have to abandon my rigorous vetting of the area and we basically pick a spot at random
>After we build a couple houses discover a massive village 5 minutes walking distance north of us
>I shit my pants and tell everyone we might have to go, but they don't want to
>Later that night we're watching a movie and I'm online in the house botting cone cows and shit
>Hear someone enter
>Quickly tab in
>Some bitch with a b12 already
>She walks out, apparently thought I was afk and didnt want to kill me
>I exit the house and everything is kill, bitch is nowhere to be seen
>Go north and beg for them to spare my noobs
>I talked to the one girl in the village and she has a heart
>Our villages become friends and eventually join up together, living in the same walls

Good ending

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Thinking about playing this game, is it recommended for someone who is going to be starting university in like 4 days? I can't devote stupid amounts of time to it but it does look very comfy, like something I can drink milk and listen to Plantasia to

I can't believe how hard they fucked up on haven

it's literally taken the same course as shitty gook MMOs and went from a completely social game to a singleplayer infinity grinder with a lot of "bring me boar ass" quests

>>388363490
banished

>>388400108
You don't need to dump stupid amounts of time into this game. You can enjoy it at a leisurely pace as we are so late into the world that you will never ever be 'competitive' with anyone else anyway. I would normally suggest to wait until they reset the world as that is really really fun, but you would probably lose interest/forget by then

The way the game is designed, there's always something productive you could be doing to fill up your time, but it's not required. Doing minor maintenance type tasks will keep you progressing at a steady rate without burning yourself out

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complete and utter rubbish, the game is a festering corpse of what it used to be, and this can be confirmed by even a single peek at the moot

no more faction vs faction
no more world politics
no more drama of betrayal and hurt, literally just posts of guys with b12's hitting alts while blasting rap music

and if all you're interested in doing is making a farm and having a little of livestock, congratulations on your daily requirement of farming 1000000sqrt of acres of carrots just to keep the fuckers fed
on the bright side I guess they lag out anyone that comes near you so badly that they won't even bother to raid you for the required 48 nonstop hours.

>>388400108
Nah man, Haven has always been a game designed for neet virgins. Of course nothing in the game forces you to play 4+ hours a day, but you will not get any satisfaction out of it unless you do so, and everyone who tells otherwise is lying to themselves. And the game is addictive as heroin, so better stay away from it.