Will Xenoblade 2 top the original, or will it just be a

I think it will be pretty decent for people who regularly enjoy RPGs, but for someone like me (who usually finds them cringey) it looks to have all of the usual lame JRPG tropes, just like Xenoblade X

It's a shame really... The first Xenoblade game was amazing. At least the sound track will be good

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It'll toppi the original for sure.

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>Still no xenoblade amiibo
>Meanwhile, Fire Emblem gets new amiibo figures every other minute.

Not even any fan content either. This is some bullshit for what's supposed to be Nintendo's Final Fantasy.

>>388359818

I don't know. I never completed the original. What I can say is I prefer the bright, anime designs of the new game more. They should have had that kind of design for the game on Wii, since it would have worked better with the limited resolution.

>>388359818
It might top the original but I doubt it'll top X.

>>388361461
>people actively WANT amiibos now

what has this board come to?

>>388361461
It's barely on its 3rd game in the Blade line.

Fire Emblem will be releasing its 15th mainline game next year.

>>388363051
You have to understand that neo /v/ has literally known nothing other than DLC and amiibos. These people's first consoles were the xbox for fucks sake.

>>388359818
I don't know.

>>388363190
I don't think he values the amiibo as DLC but a chance for niche Nintendo IP to get merchandise?

>>388363317
Terrible overpriced worse-than-DLC merchandise

>>388363369
For $13 to get a Shulk figure is better than a .01% chance a figure manufacturing company will make a quality Shulk statue that costs $110.

Takahashi's descent into shounenshit is painful to look at.
I guarantee that story-wise it will be shittier even than X.

>>388363709
I don't have my hopes high. Looks like he's descended into Dragon-Quest/Tales-of shit but hey the masses will like it.

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>>388363709
>story-wise it will be shittier even than X
Literally H O W

>>388363946
>Tales-of shit
And there it is. The ACfag of Xenoblade threads, "IT LOOKS LIKE TALES OF." Time to abandon thread.

>>388363946
I kinda agree. XCX had a cool as fuck sci-fi aesthetic, some weird character models aside. Meanwhile the town they showed off in the XB2 stream looked like it was taken straight from any generic JRPG ever. I have zero interest in this game.

>>388363709

>Takahashi's descent into shounenshit is painful to look at.
Are you seriously implying Xenoblade Chronicles isn't shounen? Just playing the first couple hours of the game feels like watching a shounen anime. Right down to the Japanese voice actors they chose.

>>388363946

>Looks like he's descended into Dragon-Quest/Tales-of shit
>Dragon Quest
>Tales
They're not even remotely similar. But this game does have Tales vibes in its visual design.

>>388364148
It's pretty obvious what demographic they're going for from the art style.
People will eat up this cliched, shallow moe crap and the producers know it.

No Skell no buy

>>388363051
people here buy more expensive toys just for hot glue
this shoudn´t be a surprise

>>388364550
>Are you seriously implying Xenoblade Chronicles isn't shounen
No, it's where Xeno started being a complete shounenshit in first place.
Doesn't mean he can't do even worse.
Like, Shulk was an awful protagonist revenge boner aside, but this kid looks like something from throwaway generic jrpg from ps2.

the fact that the exploration is more like XCX and the combat system is better along makes it better

>>388363709
X isn't a shonen though

>>388359818
I think it definitely has the potential to top the original. But besting the best is no easy task, so we'll have to wait and see.

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>>388364558
I don't care what you think. All I'm interested in is not having the same goddamn stupid fucking argument in EVERY SINGLE THREAD, without fail. The Xenoblade threads during the Gamescom stream were the first time they've ever actually been good, because people were paying attention to the gameplay, learning about it, seeing more of the world, and even pointing out shit like the fact that there's a cosmetics shop. But all good things must come to an end, so here we are; another stale, useless "it looks like moe so it's tales-of shit and also I don't know what moe is or why I think tales of is shit I just heard it on /v/ once so it must be true." Go fuck yourself.

>>388364725
>>388364550
>>388363709
Bona fide idiots. End yourselves immediately.

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>>388365008
This is you right now.

>>388364725

>No, it's where Xeno started being a complete shounenshit in first place.
So..it was shounen from the start. It can't 'descent into shounenshit' when the very first game was already that.

>>388365383
I'm talking about Takahashi's works in general unless you have no idea about Xeno games before Xenoblade.

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>>388364936

>>388364725
>No, it's where Xeno started being a complete shounenshit in first place.
OG Xenoblade's plot is cliche'd as fuck half the time, but you likely didn't notice because the dub (assuming that's how you played) was great and the overall presentation was good too.

I'm sick of the small-minded Nintendo fucks and Miyamoto cocksuckers that ignore a Xenoblade game and stick their nose up at it just because it's not a legacy Nintendo franchise or because EAD didn't wipe their cocks on it.

It's not me who's embarrassing, it's the fucking embarrassing Nintendo fanbase who finger their assholes 24/7 over their childhood memories of playing Mario or Zelda and don't pick up a Xenoblade game solely because it doesn't "transport them" to their fuzzy wittle giggly time childhood.

Cunts. Xenoblade deserves better than the cocooned Nintendo fanbase. I'm out.

>>388365845
See >>388365623

>>388365672
Presentation won't change the fact how awful Zanza was as antagonist and how painfully boring the overall story turned out to be.
Never bother with dubs so can't say anything about that matter.

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>>388365845

>>388359818
Even a decent sequel will be good enough for me.

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To everyone with a brain Xenoblade 2 looks better in absolutely every single way. The original had absolutely horrible level design and gameplay. Literally only the music, the art design and somewhat the humor were good. Of course so good that this made it a classic.

>>388360413
>Xenoblade X
>typical JRPG
>Xenoblade 1
>not filled to the brim with tropes

>>388366330
When the fuck was this shit shown? E3?

>>388359818
If they cut the filler, yes

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>>388363946
>>388364558
Gameplay, level design, art design looks a hundred times better than generic Tales shit. The OST seems to be much better too.

Why are you a retard? You can't do fucking anything in the Tales world, I believe you can't even jump.

Shut the fuck up.

>>388366130
>Never bother with dubs so can't say anything about that matter.
That's too bad, it's a rare case of a JRPG dub being something above "typical anime shit"

>>388366330
Is this a new tales game?
World sure looks like a massive improvement but jesus, Baba really needs to work on character designs.

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>>388366456
Some Frenchfag event.

>>388366521
See >>388366270

>>388366456
Paris expo, it's the same fucking shit as e3 though so I wouldn't bother looking for it

>>388366456
Gamescon

>>388366330
Framerate couldn't be any worse, could it? Are they really going to release it this december?

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>>388365845
>fuzzy wittle giggly time childhood
>being this triggered by nintenbabies

>>388366843
It's the alpha built and this video is months old.

>>388366670
Can you actually hear the game's audio in these videos? Hated watching the E3 footage because they had the audio turned down way low so Treehouse could explain things that weren't important.

>>388366869
This was neogaf copy and paste. Always wanted to post it lol

>>388366843
>Framerate couldn't be any worse
I dunno I'd say it looked pretty typical for the type of game it is. Game's probably in its final stages where they're polishing it up. Probably.

>>388366130
Why do you think Zanza was an awful antagonist? I personally found the story and events very exciting, especially towards the end.

>>388365526

The Xenogears/saga games were also blatantly shounen... Having a bunch of blood and people dying doesn't make something 'adult'. And fuck, this is a series where 10-16 year olds are fighting in mechs against aliens.

>>388366843
>Framerate couldn't be any worse, could it? Are they really going to release it this december?
Don't watch choppy livestreams, watch the most recent direct upload from Gamescom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_mLCsRmBW0&t=2h32m14s

>>388367014
seriously? lel

>>388367792
>50fps

>>388365526
xenogears had shonen bits to it

only xeno games that don't are saga and blade x

>>388367945
Who cares? The game is 30. The point is that it's actually pretty stable.

>>388359818
It definitely won't top XC1

>>388368054
won't the 30 frames in the video be displayed inconsistently if the video itself is 50fps?

>>388364936
>I don't care what you think.
You clearly fucking do care what he thinks you fucking retard.

>>388367792
> Shitty quality recording check
> 720p check
> Small game footage window check

Nintendo really can't into streams.

>>388359818
Why do the character designs look so generic?

>>388368461
There is a big difference between caring what someone does and caring what someone thinks. In this case, I care that he actively tries to start the same flamewar every Xenoblade thread, not about his non-opinion.

>>388368861
Then stop responding to him and biting his bait. That's the only thing he wants

>>388368259
I don't think so, the game's output is 30 no matter what, each individual frame from the game just lasts longer than one individual frame from the video's output (since it's divided into more frames), meaning you're seeing 30 anyway.

>>388368259
no, it shows everything in its correct frame rate as long as it's 50 fps or below, otherwise the XC2 screen would look a lot smoother, it's at 30

>>388369008
but the 30 frames aren't changing every second frame they are changing inconsistently, but also I could have sworn that 50hz was dropped like a decade ago along with the pal standard.

>>388359818
lol

>>388365214
Sorry, that's you

>>388368506
>> Small game footage window check
I really wonder why they'd bother having the three guys displayed when their faces aren't contributing anything to gameplay itself. It just obstructs what I want to see.

>>388369320
>but also I could have sworn that 50hz was dropped like a decade ago along with the pal standard.
That is correct, don't know what's up with that in the video. It's the first time I see that framerate on youtube.

>>388359818
It will surpass the original easily, it wasnt that good to being with. XC2 will be fucking great though

I'll start Xenoblade tomorow, what should I know ?

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someone post the bodysuit pictures

>>388370101
Don't spoiler yourself.
If you do all quests as soon as you find them you will most likely be overleveled.

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This is your new favorite JRPG protag

say something nice.

>>388370101
Play with the dub, it's great.
The combat isn't complex, in fact it's very easy to pick up.
DO NOT SPOIL ANYTHING
Healing isn't that important.

How're you playing it?

>>388370101
Enjoy it then feel that pain of playing Xenoblade X. That game was such a disappointment coming from the original.

>>388369386
>no you

you must be 18 or older to post here.

>>388370492
On the Wii U

>>388370427
I'll do the side quest I want and then move on when I feel like it, I did that for XCX and it worked pretty well.

>>388370632
Don't listen to this faggot.

MAMA MIA

>>388370632
It's actually one of my top 5 RPG. Sorry anon.

>>388370661
>On the Wii U
Eh fair enough. If you have the PC for it then I'd honestly just recommend emulating the game. Playing the game in HD with HD textures does wonders to the game.

>>388370823
I have absolutly no idea if it can run it but I doubt it. I can't run Armored Core at a constant FPS and even games like Ar Tonelico (2D RPG) slowdown when opening menu.

>>388370475
if i buy the amiibo can i get a helmet dlc that's basically just a paper bag to put on his stupid fucking face

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>>388370101

Do all the side quests in the starting area. Not because they're fun, but to get used to the combat. Because every main story quest you do throws another new skill and tutorial at you. And it overwhelms you.

>>388370492

>the dub is great

>>388371240
>>the dub is great
When you compare it to other JRPG dubs which recycle the same mediocre VAs over and over again, Xenoblade's dub was a breath of fresh air since they were actually competent actors.

>>388371015
That's fair enough. Oh and something I forgot to mention. Side quests are cool and all but an easy way to become over levelled.

>>388369570
They nailed it better in the Treehouse @ E3 streams

post Pyra

>>388359818

I want to fuck that sword.

>>388371443
Yeah, I doubt it but I don't really care. I'll just do what sidequest I find interestong and then move on I guess. The game is relatively short if you don't do any side quest right ?

>>388371240
Meh, I'll get around I hope

>>388371443

>When you compare it to other JRPG dubs
That's like saying a Hollywood actor is great when compared to some kid in a high school play. If your standard is "the dub isn't the absolute worst it could be',then sure. It might be good. But compare the dub of Xenoblade to something with actual standards like Batman Arkham Asylum, it is total shit.

I swear, western fans have zero standards for voice acting.

>Xenoblade's dub was a breath of fresh air since they were actually competent actors.
But they're not good voice actors. Xenoblade fans make fun of the voices all the time for a reason. They're cheesy and hammy as fuck. You can grow to accept that. But you still have to admit they aren't good. Let alone taking the part seriously at all.

>>388371487
True, but then I had beef with the Treehouse streams because you couldn't hear the game's audio at all.

>>388371864
>The game is relatively short if you don't do any side quest right ?
Like 60 hours.

>>388369894
That is incorrect
PAL regions still use 50hz for Broadcast TV
NTSC commonly uses 1080i/60i/hz(which means 60 interlaced frames/30 progessive) whereas PAL uses 1080i/60i/hz(50 interlaced frames/25 progressive)

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the character designer does some pretty good porn

>>388371971
Hu, I've heard an anon say 30 hours. Well, I'll see.

>>388372031
so does every xeno artist except maybe saga 2

>>388372103
30? I really doubt it. It's supposed to be 51 hours rushed.

https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=11401

I'm playing this game if dual audio is available from the start, I'll just wait for the switch to be hacked if not.

>>388372103
nah you've been bullshited

>>388372383
>>388372480

Maybe if I read a load of guide beforehand.

Anyway, thanks to all the anons who answered me.

>>388372558
>reading guides

this isn't xenoblade x, just go in blind

>>388372607
Why would you need a guide for XCX either? For both games I only checked Internet to see the location of the post game super bosses and recommended builds.

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>>388372742
>I checked the internet for recommended builds

so you used a guide

>>388372805
I wouldn't consider /vg/ a guide, and it was optional postgame content, you don't need a guide for the main game.

>>388372607
No, I said that maybe if someone use guides they could finish the game in 30 hours the first time.

For XCX I looked a bunch of stuff about drop/ennemies/quests locations and how overdrive worked.

>>388370475
He sounds like a cocky asshole in battle and that's great.

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>>388370475
He has fine tastes in girls.

>>388364623
You can fuck off then.

>>388369357
Fuck off

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>still no release date/special edition

>>388370314
Get the fuck out of here with your shitty underage blade waifu

>>388371516
Fuck you

>>388361461
But anon, Fire Emblem IS Nintendo's Final Fantasy.

>>388372224
Is it possible to have taste this shit?

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Has this been pointed out?

The achievement stuff is confusing, but if Roc's one of the party Blades and his Driver is the scarred-up guy in front of him (this game's Vangarre?), does that mean he joins the party as well?

>>388375774

Nah, Zelda is their Final Fantasy.

Every game since Wind Waker has focused more and more on cutscenes and linear gameplay. To the point that cutscenes and lore was hurting gameplay. Then out of nowhere, they return back to an open world. The difference is BotW was open world done right. And FFXV was open world done horribly, horribly wrong.

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>>388376180
>van damme finally joining your party

>>388376180
I thought Tora was using him? I'm pretty sure you can't pass off a Blade once you've bonded with it either. Probably a different bird.

>>388376650
tora uses poppi

>>388376818
Right, forgot she was special. Whoever it was the point still stands.

>>388360413
>le anime cringe
Fuck this shit is stupid

>>388376932
it's Van damme's according to that cutscene, unsued characters in battle still get exp if it's like XC1. probably the reason they didn't open the start menu during the presentation

I just hope Pyra is in the party the entire game so I can just swap to her and play

>>388377112
you can't play as blades

>>388359818
My ONLY problem is those fucking assless pants. Please tell me there is alternative armor in this game!!!!!

Actually I'm not fond of those British accents either

>>388377270
I think Anon means if pyrs is like the monado which the answer is yes, rex always her.

>>388376419
Zslda can't be Nintendo's final fabtasy because it actually predates it.

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>>388377540
>Actually I'm not fond of those British accents either
You might be playing the wrong series anon.

>>388377659

By that logic, then you can't compare a Nintendo game to Final Fantasy at all since they're made by different companies.

What I was doing was saying Zelda started to become more story and cinematic focused like Final Fantasy. As well as falling into the 'realism' and 'grey bloom' trends. Thankfully Zelda went away from that.

>>388377869

Not if he turns Japanese voices on.

>no option in XCX
Fuck you Nintendo. If you pull this again in XC2, I'm not buying it.

This is what I got from Rex's battle dialogue

Okay. Time to take you down. (Initiate Battle)
Lets show them the way! (Initiate Battle)
Let's show them a thing or three! (Initate Battle)
... you'll pay.. alright (Initiate Battle)
Together.. (cuts off) (Initiate Battle)
No... We've lost the upper hand. (Enemy Ambush)
Okay. You're on! (Enemy Ambush)
Hah!, Heeya!, Yahhh!, Take that! (Auto attack)
Swoooord BASH! (Art)
Spinnning EDGE! (Art)
Strong smash!!! (Art)
Topple 'em (Anchor Shot, Art)
????????? (Blade Art Max)
????????? (Chain Attack start)
Good Job!, Good show! Right on! (Encouragement)
Gotcha!
I could've done that blind (Finished Battle)

>>388377869
i actually liked the British voices in XBC1, but these ones sound different. Is it Welsh? I don't know, there's something grating about these new ones

>>388378027
>characters are from a place called New Los Angeles
>playing with Japanese voices

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>>388378027
>No dual audio the majority of releases, may not be in future releases
>British VA's possibly a series tradition at this point, with the exception of games where it doesn't make sense
Like I said, wrong series.

>>388378338
the new ones are a mix of British/welsh/scottish/american depending on the character

>>388359818
Looks like it will be average on the level of a Tales game.

>>388376650
>>388376932
We saw that all of Rex and Nia's Blades, and Roc wasn't any of them. Tora also didn't seem to have any except Poppi.

Plus, wasn't it only party members' main, story-relevant Blades that were getting achievements throughout the stream, and none of the more generic ones? That also heavily suggests Roc belongs to our mystery 6th party member.

>>388377053
That build was played by some sites, so I'd wonder why they didn't check the party member screen out... but then I remember one apparently had no idea you could switch which character you played as, so probably none of them thought to.

>>388378165
Cool, now do the same for everyone else

>>388378338
What >>388378385 said. Rex's in particular is a very different kind of British from Shulk's.

>>388359818
I at least hope it'll be better than Xenoblade X

>>388377934
Well, Xenoblade's producer worked at SE and was fucked over, is obvious he is still bitter (his commentary about how modern JRPG are full of pretty guys is an obvious jab to FFXV), so he could be making xenoblade his answer to FF as his revenge

What is the purpose of Poppi's lily?

>>388371851
She's 13.

>>388359818
I dunno, we just haven't seen enough. I think it's pretty safe to say it'll be decent though.

>>388378385

>No dual audio the majority of releases, may not be in future releases
There's only been two releases. One had dual audio, the other didn't.

>British VA's possibly a series tradition at this point
Outside of Japan. In Japan, they don't do this. And even if the west wants to make it a 'tradition', I don't have to like it. Just like I hate the dialects in Dragon Quest games.

It also makes no sense to give a game which is basically watching a shounen anime British voices. It would be like watching Star Wars with an Osakan dialect.

>>388378569
Shit. Meant to say "what >>388378448 said". That's what I get for multitasking.

>>388378654
it's cute...CUTE!

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>>388376491
I want to equip him with all the tanktops he dumped on me in Xenoblade X.

>>388378450
I've played Tales games, this is not on the level of a Tales game.
Tales games have uninteresting stories, boring environments, very limited "exploration" , and boring gameplay.
From what I've seen and Monolith soft's track record I can tell that XC2 will have:
1.A good or at least engaging story
2.Great exploration
3.Great environments

Can anyone confirm if there is armor in the game that will cover Rex's ass?

>>388378907
>taking the tales bait

lol

>>388378661
>There's only been two releases. One had dual audio, the other didn't.
XBC3DS, XBCX, and likely XBC2
>It also makes no sense to give a game which is basically watching a shounen anime British voices.
What makes it any more nonsensical than American accents?

>>388378372
>giving a fuck about something this minor

>>388379009
Why don't you wait until the fucking game comes out?

>>388372457
Get out of here piratefag

>>388377542
No, that's wrong

>>388371868
False

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They ruined the chain attacks

>butcher vendor
>fishmonger vendor
>flatforms vendor
Has a picture of a slice of bread
>cosmetic vendor
>aux cores vendor
>general trader
>salvage vendor
>knick knack vendor
>antiques vendor
>wagon vendor
Has a picture of a cake

What's with all of these fucking vendors, the game even has skill checks for tasks that appear to be able to alter the environment, is the game secretly more freeform than previously thought?

Either way Xenoblade 2 looks more like what I thought Final Fantasy would look like last generation, this is a good thing.

>>388380774
it's probably gonna be a mix of XC and XCX, once you unlock a titan the entire thing is explorable but certai ntitans are story locked

>>388378903
>+ to x
>W to M
What does it mean?

>>388381149
I meant in a sort of Skiterim way, lots of vendors that appear to sell esoteric items, a patisserie, a boulangerie, a fishmonger, a fucking cosmetics store.

I'm beginning to think that my expectations for this game are well below what the game actually is going to be. Even the skill checks kind of get me.

>>388370101
This so much >>388370492
I played with the healer for a long time and once I decided to switch her out for more damage, the game became a lot more fun.

>>388380494
Fuck off

>>388380623
And you ruined the thread, faggot.

>>388378624
But his boys have always been pretty.

>>388379169

>and likely XBC2
So like I said, so far only two games. Which one had dual audio and the other didn't.

>It also makes no sense to give a game which is basically watching a shounen anime British voices.
Both are equally stupid. You're not getting my point. There should be a dual audio option. Watching a shounen anime in English is dumb no matter the accent.

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Why does nobody like Nia? Post Nia's if you have them.

>>388371516
I don't have any, but I could sure go for that Pyra Mario picture

>>388378656
Pretty sure she's 16

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>>388378656
>>388383935
I like both of these options.

>>388383935
Pretty sure she's 100+.

>>388383935
She's a Sword, I'm not sure how you'd quantify that to begin with

>>388378656
She is a fucking sword, we can age her like a normal Living being.

>>388383285
I wish she had been a boy. I like her blade, though.

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>>388384195

There's an 85% probability that she is older than 16.

>>388384201
*Can't

This game is clearly just one last shot at grabbing the hardcore weebfag crowd before the franchise is killed, just like FE.

Since this game WILL sell mediocre as fuck, they'll kill it and focus on that new IP they've been talking about.

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>>388384485
Wait, how do we still have no Pyra and Fi art?

>>388384774
Yeah, we got pyraXsamus art first

>>388384727
>This game is clearly just one last shot at grabbing the hardcore weebfag crowd before the franchise is killed, just like FE.
>Since this game WILL sell mediocre as fuck
It'll sell mediocre as fuck because you can't marry all of your swords and pat their faces?

I still prefer X a lot in themes of aesthetic and setting/designs but that Roc blade makes me hopeful we'll see good Blade designs among all the generic common ones we've seen so far, and the environs look nice enough to sink hours exploring. I've warmed to the game even if I haven't warmed to the characters or designs.

>>388378907
Hopefully the characters are good too. Rex having more confidence than Shulk is good, but hopefully he isn't an idiot.

>>388384727

>This game is clearly just one last shot at grabbing the hardcore weebfag crowd before the franchise is killed
How is the franchise dying? Both games sold around the same amount.

>just like FE.
But the last few FE games sold better than the previous games. The series isn't dying at all, even though fans hate the waifus.

>Since this game WILL sell mediocre as fuck
How are you so sure? If XCX could sell almost a million on a dead system, what makes you think this one will sell worse on Switch?

>>388385281

Why do people act like Shulk has no confidence? He seems really grounded and determined in the game I played. But maybe that's because I played with Japanese voices on? It was kind of refreshing to see a male protag who isn't either an edgy loner or a super naive, happy adventurer.

I mean, dude saw his childhood crush, mentor and father figure all killed by aliens. But he didn't sit around moping like a Final Fantasy or Tales protag. He grabbed a sword and went off to find the enemy. Along the way, he seems to know a fair bit of tech and calls people out on some cliche shit.

>>388384042
a 13 yo tittymonster turns me on but i doubt she's 13, she's prolly 16-17

>>388359818
probably top it. not like that would be that hard. as good as the first was it had some issues

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>>388385650

>a 13 yo tittymonster turns me on
What a perv.

>>388385367
They won't keep investing in Xenoblade if it keeps selling worse then F-fucking-Zero.

It's following the same last resort as FE, and Monolith is prepping a new IP.

It's dead, Jim

>>388386057
I like how you think Monolith not just being a Xenoblade factory, even when Takahashi's said he wants to keep doing new things, means the series must be dead.

>>388360413


Play better JRPGs.

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>>388386057
>being this delusional

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>>388386057

>They won't keep investing in Xenoblade if it keeps selling worse then F-fucking-Zero.
But F-Zero hasn't had a game for 13 years. So its not selling worse than F-Zero. Because F-Zero isn't selling anything.

Are you touched in the head?

>It's following the same last resort as FE
And once again, that 'last resort' you're claiming saw an increase in sales for Fire Emblem.

>It's dead, Jim
If it was dead, there wouldn't be a Xenoblade 2 at all. Kind of like F-Zero.

>>388386363
>s-s-sales don't matter!!
Just like F-Zero, eh?

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>Splatoon 2 somehow manages to irk me in it's design choices despite basically being a carbon copy of the original
>Despise Pearl and Marina
>Already feeling it with the character designs in this game

It's like Donkey Kong Country 2. It does everything better than 1 but if you hate Pirates or the darker atmosphere then you're up shit creek.

>>388360413

>I want a Japanese RPG
>but with all the Japanese tropes and cliches removed
And even as stupid as this is, there's plenty of them out there. And many of the best JRPGs are ones that poke fun of or upend the common cliches.

>>388386461
>But F-Zero hasn't had a game for 13 years. So its not selling worse than F-Zero. Because F-Zero isn't selling anything
So you have autism then?

>And once again, that 'last resort' you're claiming saw an increase in sales for Fire Emblem.
Lol you think Xenoblade 2 is randomly gonna sell gangbusters. How fucking desperate can you get?

>If it was dead, there wouldn't be a Xenoblade 2 at all.
Nintendo always gives franchises multiple chances to sell a million. They aren't gonna invest in these games if they keep selling like shit. FFS both ARMS and Splatoon, two brand new IPs, utterly raped Xenoblades sales when they each first came out

Xeno 2 will be the first AAA nintendo game to sell <million on switch. It's not coming back from that

>>388386909

>So you have autism then?
The irony.

>>388386951
Ah, so you do have autism.

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>>388386909

Face it dude, you got owned. You claimed Xenoblade is selling less than F-Zero. When F-Zero's last game came out before the first Xenoblade did. You owned yourself.

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>>388359818

And people complain about waifuposting in series like this. What's happening right now is the alternative.

her tits are too big, will not buy

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>>388383285
I could barely hear her in the stream. Did she have a Welsh accent?

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>>388359818
E

>>388387238
Is that an angry tree-flower? I thought we were on a titan, not back on Mira.

>>388386057
But Xenoblade's been selling just fine. The budget for XBC & XBX were surprisingly small anyway if I remember correctly. Closer to AA than AAA if anything (ala Persona 5).

>>388386909
>Xeno 2 will be the first AAA nintendo game to sell <million on switch. It's not coming back from that
Except that the Xenoblade games aren't AAA, they have pretty average budgets. Monolith is just good at working with what they have.

But then again, I wouldn't expect a shitposter to bother doing his research.

>>388387080
Jesus Christ how do you function in daily life?

>responding to the shitposter who makes his way to every single Xeno thread to complain
There's plenty to not like about the game (accounting for taste) but he still feels the need to make shit up out of nowhere.
>This game'll sell poorly and be discontinued like F-Zero!
>>But the last two games both sold a bit under a million?
>H-ha ha, it's not gonna sell like the previous two games sold. W-what a ridiculous claim to make. Ha ha.

>>388387719
Except it's not. Nintendo doesn't invest in <million sellers unless it's a game that costs almost nothing to make, like old FE games.

Xenoblade easily has a standard AAA nintendo budget. That means it's fucking dead if 2 won't sell (spoiler: it won't)

>>388387832
Just like F-Zero, eh? Because that turnes out so well?

>>388388189
>But the last two games both sold a bit under a million?
You mean they sold like shit.

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>>388388189

>>This game'll sell poorly and be discontinued like F-Zero!
He went even farther and claimed F-Zero sells more than Xenoblade. He literally said a dead series sells more than a live one. I think he mixed up his own rehearsed talking points. Really quite sad.

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>>388388334

>games that sell under a million are shit
Yet Namco keeps churning out Tales games and Atlus keeps pumping out SMT games. Nintendo also releases Fire Emblem games which sell less than Xenoblade.

Literally the only company that thinks JRPGs need to sell millions is SquareEnix. Oh wait...is that who's behind this posting? Wada, is that you!

>>388388357
>He went even farther and claimed F-Zero sells more than Xenoblade.
F-Zero sold over a million one time, so he's right.

Where's the confusion?

>>388387994
I could say the same about you.

>>388388193
I mean, they invested in XBC, then XBX (both of which sold like garbo according to you). Doesn't really make sense why they'd invest in XB2 unless it's doing SOMETHING right. You just want the game to fail because you're bitter about the change in direction maybe probably.

>>388388476
Those don't have the budget xenoblade does. SMT has recycled sprites for like 7 years ffs.

Compare that to "OH SO AMAZING AND GIANT OPEN WORLD" that xenoblade creates every game

>>388387512
>why does a fantasy game have-out-of-this-world shit
Xfags need to leave

>>388388193
http://nintendoeverything.com/monolith-soft-on-player-feedback-xenoblades-future-relationship-with-nintendo-more/

>I also think it’s really meaningful that this is a middle tier title, rather than a AAA title.
Please stop making shit up.

>>388388595
Nintendo has always given big budget series multiple chances. If X2 can't sell despite having a DECEMBER slot, then the series is fucking screwed

>>388388678
Just like F-zero. And that turned out good, right?

I'm really impressed how every time you idiots can't stop yourself from feeding the troll and derailing every single Xenoblade thread. It's not even like the guy is a good troll, yet you lot do exactly what he wants.

>>388388514

>he's right
You can't compare games from 15 years ago to games of today. By that logic, I can make a stupid claim like Dark Souls sold poorly because Zelda 1 sold more than it did on the NES.

And for the fourth time, Fire Emblem sells less than Xenoblade, and it still gets supported.

>>388388615

>Those don't have the budget xenoblade does.
Persona and Xenoblade have very comparable budgets. But Xenoblade still sells more than Persona.

Xenoblade doesn't have a Final Fantasy level budget if that's what you're implying. But given your comments, I don't think you are even sane.

>>388388357
Do you not understand English or something?

>>388388813
>Xenoblade sells more then persona
>Xenoblade sells more then FE
Is this bait?

>>388388834

Just like F-zero. And that turned out good, right?

>>388388779
What does F-Zero have to do with the fact that none of the Xenoblade games are AAA titles like you keep claiming?

>>388388357
>>388388813
>that reading comprehension
>that completely made up sales info
Damn we got an actual autist here

>>388359818
On all honesty, my only problem with the game is the MC design, it is god awful.
The only way buy it is either for it to have free costumes to change his design or for it to be a masterpiece in which I can ignore the design for everything else.

>>388359818
I want to play it but the MC looks like such a fucking retard that I honestly believe it will ruin the game experience for me.

>>388388980
Xenoblade titles don't sell enough to justify their existences. There's no way Nintendo will invest in more once 2 flops. F-Zero proves this.

>>388388993
It will be the second thing

>>388388993
So literally your only problem is the MC's look, yet still that stops you from buying the game?

Also we've already seen Cosmetics shops, so there's a big chance you can change shit.

>>388388615
>Compare that to "OH SO AMAZING AND GIANT OPEN WORLD" that xenoblade creates every game
In interviews Takahashi always talks about making worlds within their budget. Maybe they're just good and talented at what they do?

>>388388642
Nigga I love that tree, it's my favorite thing in the game so far. I like it because it looks like something out of X; if there's a field of trees and there's one or two of that enemy with their level indicators hidden that attack you while looking around I'd be fucking psyched. Scares like that make these games for me.
>Gor-Ha the rusemaster
>that one cliff/temple looking area on the Bionis' leg where a giant spider climbs up after you collect an item

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>>388388989

>that reading comprehension
>coming from the guy who said a dead series is outselling Xenoblade

>>388389170
>Maybe they're just good and talented at what they do?
Lmao that's not how game design and budget works.

>>388389074
Fuck mate, where's them budgets and sales figures to back up what you are saying?

>>388389279
>>388389227
>>388389170
Stop responding.

>>388389227
>Autist STILL has a shit grasp of english
>Autist STILL ignores the sales data

>>388388989
>>388388909

All but two Persona games have sold less than Xenoblade Chronicles.

All but three Fire Emblem games have sold less than Xenoblade Chronicles.

Not going to say the other guy is right, but two Xenoblade games keeping up with series that have 20+ games is pretty telling.

Toe to tip, that's an F-Zero.
GorohLover69 comments and says, "Just like F-Zero!"
Take it to the bank, boys. This one's just like F-Zero.

>>388389353
Xenoblade is keeping up with the games that would've killed the franchises with infinitely lower budgets.

Yep. Xenoblade is fucked

>>388389339
But I jus started.

>>388389439
>still acting like Xenoblade has a high budget when you've been told numerous times it doesn't

>>388389170
You mean the trees in X look like something out of XC

>>388389439

Persona has a comparable budget to Xenoblade. Are you the idiot who said Xenoblade has a AAA budget? It doesn't get anywhere near the money Zelda or Mario get.

>>388389107
>So literally your only problem is the MC's look, yet still that stops you from buying the game?
Yes, I know it is shallow but I just can't stand it.

> we've already seen Cosmetics shops
Which is were my hopes are.

>>388389550
You have no source claiming that the game sells enough to be sustainable. If a fucking recycled asset pixelshit ds FE game is considered a failure when it sells like Xeno, then X2's giant fuckoff mmo world will be considered a much BIGGER failure when it sells like Xeno

>>388359818
It will be okay.

>>388389615
>Persona has a comparable budget to Xenoblade.
And persona actually sells while Xeno flops.

>>388389825

>You have no source claiming that the game sells enough to be sustainable.
And you have no source for the opposite.

>If a fucking recycled asset pixelshit ds FE game is considered a failure when it sells like Xeno
Where's your source of Nintendo claiming its a failure? Especially since the last two Fire Emblem games sold 3x as much as a typical FE game.

>>388385640
That was really refreshing for a protagonist in a jrpg. He had realistic goals and wasn't starry eyed. He just wanted human catharsis.

Hopefully Rex does turn out to be more mature than he looks.

>>388383859
Please don't encourage faggots like that guy.

>>388389895

>And persona actually sells while Xeno flops.
Xenoblade Chronicles sold 900,000 copies. 1.5 million if you count the 3DS port (and more unspecified sales of the Wii U VC port).
Xenoblade X sold 900,000 copies.

The best selling Persona game is Persona 4 Golden on Vita. It sold 1.1 million copies. Only 200,000 copies more than Xenoblade Chronicles on Wii.

>>388390112
Yet, you're fine with people continually responding to this idiot who is making baseless claims about this series being unprofitable?

>>388390161
All versions of Xenoblade sold less then a million

>>388390192
It's not like those idiots will suddenly stop responding. They're too dumb to recognise bait even when people point it out and just keep biting and biting.

>>388390262

Yeah...like I just pointed out. But you know what? All persona games except one also sold less than a million.

>>388389956
>And you have no source for the opposite.
Nintendo kills franchises that don't sell a million. Every time.

Xenoblade doesn't sell enough to keep around. Why waste the effort when ARMS and Splatoon prove that there's no audience for garbage mmo games on Nintendo?

>>388390192
I'm just sick of people who are trying to shitpost pictures of their shitty melon-titted blade waifu in every single Xenoblade thread.

>>388390360
Exactly. Persona is a success, while Xenoblade has died

>>388390457
Why? That's the target audience of Xeno 2

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>>388383859

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>>388390480

>All the Persona games sell close to or less than Xenoblade
>Persona is a success but Xenoblade is dead

>>388390457
This is a thread about the game she is in, and you're on /v/. Get the fuck over it. It's not like this thread was spammed with no text fanart replies. Try being a fan of Splatoon for its gameplay and talking about it on here. Then you can come back and complain to me

>>388390537
I just want people to talk about the game, not ask for pictures of their poorly designed waifus.

>>388390623
>>388390360
Just look at this dumb idiot who keeps feeding the troll. What must be going on in his little head to make the same mistake over and over again?
Really makes you wonder.

>>388390604
>no moustache
>eyes aren't blue

Please leave

>>388390604
I do kind of like this picture, though. I don't know why (not because of the tits).

>>388390721
>I just want people to talk about the game
Well, go ahead.

>>388390410

>Nintendo kills franchises that don't sell a million. Every time.
No they don't. They kept supporting Fire Emblem for 15+ years before it hit its first million seller. And you love to keep referencing F-Zero, but it had multiple million sellers, yet still was ignored. Same with Metroid for 7 years at a time, despite selling between 1.5 and 5 million.

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>>388390725

>guy gets his argument destroyed
>pretends he's someone else and calls himself as troll
Man, this is pretty entertaining.

>>388390801
I don't have anything to add to the conversation, but I'm hoping everyone else talks about the actual game, just like the last thread.

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>>388390798
Because she's cute, obviously.

>>388390893
Well I tried to talk about why the fuck does the game have so many esoteric vendors but no-one cared.

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>>388390760
I didn't have it sorry anon.

>Xenoblade has serviceable combat, hit enemy with attacks/arts, chain attacks, etc
>X added more movement and weapon options, can sprint and jump around to reposition, cooldowns can cooldown on themselves to make attacks stronger, every character has two weapons (Ranged and melee)
>Xenoblade 2 places more emphasis on positioning; need to be still to autoattack, need autoattacks for arts and arts for elemental bursts. Multiple weapons still in
So X2 is gonna mix the 'attacks tied to movement' system with X's mobility, right? You sprint up to an enemy and stop, your first auto-attack follows through with the momentum you had. You jump over an enemy, you attack them while moving. Some weapons you can move and attack (ie dual guns, gattling), some you can't (ie sniper rifles because they're fucking sniper rifles).

>>388390721
Then you shouldn't be in an anime game thread. These things don't give a fuck about gameplay, it's just $60 fapbait for autistic 14 year olds

>>388390893
Curious as to if we'll get any permanent blade additions outside of Pyra. Iirc, you hire the other ones right?

>>388391002
But someone else has it, so now thanks to internet piracy you can illegally make yourself a clone and steal the clone away.

>>388390798

Good use of perspective and a unique style. I like it too and don't really know anything about this girl.

>>388390807
>They kept supporting Fire Emblem for 15+ years
They were killing it if awakening didn't sell.

F-Zero only sold a million ONCE, and Metroid consistently sold a million since the very beginning.

>>388391140
>generic fucking anime artist
>unique style

>>388391080
No. Each character has a "main", story-relevant Blade: Pyra for Rex, Dromarch for Nia, Poppi for Tora. You get more generic Blades that you can equip by having characters release them from Core Crystals.

>>388390956
The first Xenoblade had those as well technically. Mostly in name only though, couldn't buy anything special from them, but there were some sidequests that involved those specific vendors.

>>388391040
>So X2 is gonna mix the 'attacks tied to movement' system with X's mobility, right?
No, you need to stand still to attack. There's no jumping over enemies or weapons which you can move with. At least none that we've seen.
The point of the combat is pulling off combos with your team, which then trigger more and more special attacks.

>>388391080
>you hire the other ones righ
No, you get them from crystals. It's RNG, like a lootbox and then you equip the best or most suitable ones.

>>388391235
She has more realistic boobs in the pic, that's what makes it unique.

>>388391162

>They were killing it if awakening didn't sell.
[citation needed]

>F-Zero only sold a million ONCE
F-Zero SNES, F-Zero X and F-Zero Maximum Velocity all sold over a million.

>and Metroid consistently sold a million since the very beginning.
Yes. Which is why I pointed it out as an example that Nintendo will ignore a series even when it sells over a million. While you keep making the (unsupported claim) that they kill series because of an arbitrary 1 million sales mark.

>>388391380
>No, you get them from crystals. It's RNG, like a lootbox and then you equip the best or most suitable ones.
In the E3 footage at least one is taken from a Driver they defeated. There's also something about getting some from unique monsters/quests or having quests to flesh them out. I hope that's referring to the non-plot relevant ones, it'd be a shame if only they had unique designs and the others all had the 'factory assembled' look.

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>>388391235

>all anime looks the same

>>388390956
I need watch the gameplay again but it was nice to confirm that different blades would have different attack speed and each one work like a different class.

>>388391473
>>388390882
>>388390807
>>388391541
Mate, fuck off and stop replying to this nonsense. You dumb fucking reddit spacing newfag.
Go derail another thread.

>>388391440
You just threw the rod into the water

>>388391541
>homogenized moeshit meant to appeal to autistic children
>not generic as fuck

>>388391516
>In the E3 footage at least one is taken from a Driver they defeated.
No, they just got some gold and EXP from him.

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>>388359818
Can't wait to see what NoE censors this time, and then watch /v/ suddenly pretend they care about the game

>>388359818
test

>>388391473
>[citation needed]
Bait. This is common knowledge by now

>F-Zero SNES, F-Zero X and F-Zero Maximum Velocity all sold over a million.
Where the fuck are you getting your numbers?

>Which is why I pointed it out as an example that Nintendo will ignore a series even when it sells over a million
Nintendo never ignored Metroid

>>388391380
Those are actually vendors now though, they have individual symbols for their store types too.

>>388391561
Aren't "BLADES" replacing your weapons as well though, still no confirmation of armors though, but considering the MCs diving helmet I think this makes sense, always needs to be ready to salvage.

>>388391607

>the person responding to the troll is at fault
>not the troll

This is what makes it so obvious you are the troll pretending to be someone else. But I'll stop responding, since you obviously can't back up any of your previous claims.

>>388391839

>This is common knowledge
Then it should be really easy to post a source proving it.

>Nintendo never ignored Metroid
Aaaand that's all there is to see here folks. He's officially destroyed any credibility he ever had or will have.

>>388391967
>using the term troll
Hi leddit

>>388392036
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/25/fire-emblem-awakening-was-almost-the-last-game-in-the-series/

Took 3 seconds to google you autistic fuck

>officially destroyed any credibility he ever had or will have.

Here we see the manchild backpedal when he realizes that he's full of shit. :)

>>388391967
>But I'll stop responding
>Proceeds to respond >>388392036
You're seriously not all there. Just go back to where you came from. You can't even look at post times to see whether or not someone is a samefag.
And yes, the one biting is the problem because that just encourages the other person.

>>388391961
>Those are actually vendors now though
Are they? We haven't seen any interaction with them. Those symbols and names could just be to make it easier to find certain side-quest NPCs or something.
Or it could just be to make the world feel alive, but still have all the vendors sell almost the same shit.

This needs to stoppi

>>388391961
Yeah blades are I wanted to know more about creature in his diving helmet.

>>388392473
>I wanted to know more about creature in his diving helmet.
The equivalent of a miner's canary and also his pet. Will function as your standard cute jrpg mascot.

Its was a good thread before some faggot start shitposting. Will buy the game, whenever its comes out.

>>388359818

We won't know till we see it

Though given how nostalgia fags works, they are going to pretend that Xenoblade 1 didnt have problems of it's own especially with how retarded the story became

>>388392172

>"Due to declining sales of the Fire Emblem series, Nintendo had told the Fire Emblem team that if sales of this latest game didn’t reach 250,000 copies, the series would come to an end."
This seems very skeptical because every FE game reached this sales goal. All the games on DS, Wii and GameCube reached between 500,000 to 1 million units.

Did they mean it had to sell 250,000 in just Japan? That would make more sense. In any event, its very strange that Nintendo would issue such an ultimatum when it would easily be achieved. It's also far shy of your idea that Nintendo kills every series that sells below a million. They were willing to keep supporting Fire Emblem even when it only sold 1/4 that amount.

>>388391541
manga is so much better.

>>388392936
Because FE doesn't have Xenoblade's budget.

Xenoblade isn't sustainable. That's a fact

>>388392691
>standard cute jrpg mascot
Don't the Nopon already fulfill that role?

>>388392036
Nintendo has never ignored metroid. You have no proof that they have

>>388393045

And we're back to the trolling to deflect from your source not working with your argument. Oh well. Time to give this up I guess.

>>388393047
To a point, but I guess they wanted a more dedicated pet-like mascot as well

>>388392936
>>388393108
I thought you were going to stop responding? Please do.

>>388392881
The story became ludicrous in a good way, as far as I'm concerned. It could've maybe toned it down a notch or two, but for a game that takes place on the dead bodies of two giants that were fighting for eternity, the story seemed appropriately wacky

>>388393047
We still can't buy Nopon merch? What the hell.

What's the general response to this series in Japan btw? Surprised we don't really have physical merchandise yet outside of some books.

>>388393085

They went 7 years between Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion/Prime. A lot of people thought the series was dead, but they randomly revived it. Then they went another 6 years before announcing Samus Returns/Prime 4, pulling the exact same stunt as before. It's not as bad as F-Zero, but Metroid clearly has had long dry spells that make no sense given how well they sell.

During these dry spells, Nintendo also wouldn't speak about Metroid much. If at all. Which make the fanbase feel ignored.

>>388393175
It didn't cross into Takahashi philosophy really at least. Hopefully we don't get too much of that in XC2, but it would be kinda funny to see things get real dark.

>>388393193
>>388393193

Pretty sure I've seen Xeno figurines out there. But those are usually gone real quick unless its a super popular character.

>>388393391
Specifically the Blade series of games? I don't remember ever seeing Shulk or Fiora getting anything really.

I don't expect it to top the original. That being said, I do think it will be good. It's Monolith Soft, they always make good games.

>>388392327
The staff referred to them as vendors.

>>388362887
Lol
>doubt it'll top X
theres nothing to top. Chronicles is still better

>>388372031
source whats his name

Thank got they look a lot cuter this time around.

>>388392691
>The equivalent of a miner's canary
You saying he literally keeps it around to die?

>>388394826
Or faint. Or maybe make some kind of sound or whatever, seeing as it's a fantasy animal.

>>388395070
How do you know this is its function?

>>388395128
I don't.

>>388395281
Boo

>>388383285
>Still no art of her getting mounted by her Blade

>>388395405
I've only seen one porn art of her and it was literally shit.

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What aspect do you guys want to see improved the most of either XB1 or XBX?

>>388363051
>>388363190
Why shouldn't I want one? It's a cheap little plastic figure of a character I like. It's like a funko pop only not a complete piece of shit, and as a bonus, it unlocks something neat in a game. Literally nothing wrong with amiibo.

>>388396709
I want the party change system from a single menu back from Xenoblade, as well as being able to trade NPC for fetch quest materials, and being able to give presents to prevent affinity grinds.

I want the sprint option from X back and not having to waste gem slots on "please for fuck's sake go faster" gems.

>>388396709

Have quests teach you how to use new skills through gameplay experience rather than a pop up tutorial. This gives more relevance for both skills and quests.

>>388361461
>Wanting amiibos
Literally fucking why?
>Out today, pass amiibo section in store
>Cloud amiibo looks decent from afar
>Face is derpy as fuck
>Celica amiibo looks decent from afar
>Face is derpy as fuck
>Alm amiibo looks decent from afar
>Face is derpy as fuck
I would expect Xenoblade amiibos to look the same