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>"they have dyson sphere!"
>"they must totally control entire universe and every dimensiosn wowow!!!!!"
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>>388327568
All we know is that they have a Dyson sphere, we don't know if they have one or ten trillion of them.
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>>388327626
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>>388327568
did you even half life? the combine are from another dimension. you even see at the end of 2.
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>>388327568
Let's see:
>amount of Combine's Dyson Spheres
at least 1
>amount of Earth's Dyson Spheres
0

???
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>>388327780
>"they from other dimension!"
>"they must totally control entire universe and every dimensiosn wowow!!!!!"
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>>388327862
nobody has ever said they control the entire universe and other dimensions, stop pretending to be smart.
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>>388327927
>nobody has ever said they control the entire universe and other dimensions
>>388322307
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>>388327852
>"they stronger than earth!"
>"they must totally control entire universe and every dimensiosn wowow!!!!!"
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>>388327984
>one person gets you this upset
back to tumblr for you friendo.
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they found it
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>>388327626
I would think simple math would say they have very few.
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It should still be possible to hide from them with Sci-Fi bullshit.
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>>388328350
What? In a different dimension? Just let them have Earth while a a handful of people run and hide?
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>>388328458
Steal Combine technology to transport the entire solar system into another dimension.
There, I solved your problem.
Hire me, Valve.
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>>388328293
>>388327626
Having one dyson sphere makes it so much easier to build many more, as you suddenly have all the energy and fuel you could ever want. Any civilization that has one dyson sphere and wants more could build basically as many more as they want far quicker and easier than building the first.
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>>388328523
the combine probably can't do that. They have shitty portal tech compared to the rest of their abilities.
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Are dyson spheres the newest /v/ meme? I wouldn't mind really. We're far behind /tv/ in the meme market.
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>>388328540
This. Having such a source of energy essentially amounts to opening the gateway to near infinite power.
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>>388328607
It's only a meme to people who haven't heard about dyson spheres before.
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post yfw your enemy has one of these
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>>388328540
If you have all the energy and fuel you could ever want, why do you want more dyson spheres?
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>>388328607
this t b h

s m h

t b h

f a m

we are embarassingly behind /tv/
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>>388327626
Or they most likely stole it and killed the people who built it, just like how they only kept the humans around until they got their own portal
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How the fuck can the Rebels beat the Empire?

The Empire has a Dyson Sphere that shoots lasers!
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>>388328902
>How
Plot armor.
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wtf is this thread

how is having a Dyson Sphere NOT a huge fucking deal
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>>388328902
Empire are white supremacists and therefore on the wrong side of history.
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>>388328798
because if you have a multi dimensional civilization, you'll get to the point where you want more, so you can expand further. There's always a need to have more energy, and to have it faster, as a star only puts out energy at a certain rate.
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>>388328607
/tv/ has the most forced memes on the site. I'd rather have no memes than /tv/-tier garbage.
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>>388328798
Greed?

They came to Earth to steal our resources, with all the power of the dyson sphere why would they need ours?
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>"they uh tiah foah raice!"
>"tiah foah!!!!"
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>>388329043
>people say this
>several crew members on starkiller base were black
>this is pointed out
>comments get sheepishly walked back
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>>388328523
>If Combine had that capability wouldn't it have been easier to teleport the Earth to their home world
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>>388327862
>>388328063
What did they mean by this?
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I have clearly missed something because I have absolutely no idea what's going on in this thread.
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>>388328902
Space magic > dyson spheres
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>>388329081
What?
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>>388328798
Because transporting that energy can be a bitch.
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>>388327568
are you saying we have confirmed the existence of a dyson sphere in our observable universe or what is going on here?
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>>388328902
>death star
>dyson sphere
'no'
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>>388329685
The Starkiller is a Dyson Sphere, though.
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>>388328063
>Control the only know intelligent species in out universe
>They control our universe
wowowowow
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>>388330383
>The Starkiller is a Dyson Sphere
'no'
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>>388330383
Wasn't that only built inside a planet and not around a sun? Does it use the planet's core as a power source as a kind of Dyson Sphere-lite?
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>>388330383
The starkiller is a planet. It's not a Dyson sphere.
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>>388330383
>The Starkiller is a Dyson Sphere, though.
at least now i know you have no idea what you're talking about
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>>388328798
Now you can build them across a trillion dimensions
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>>388329685
>>388330383
>>388330608
>Inb4 the final boss of SW:E9 is a dyson sphere death star the first order built using the resources they had hidden inside their ass
>inb4 the final boss of SW:E12 is a binary dyson sphere death star the [insert generic blatantly evil empire that is meant to resemble the nazis] built using the resources they had hidden in their asses after they lost their big weapon of planetary conquest +17 during E10
>inb4 the final boss of SW:E15 is a gaben death star valve built with the money they earned after releasing Half Life 3
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>>388330383
Here, I made this for you.
No it's not to scale.
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>>388328902
>>388330383

Do you even know what a Dyson Sphere is you fucking retard?
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>>388331263
There's no reason to think the dyson sphere would contain the earth.
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>>388331217
>[insert generic blatantly evil empire that is meant to resemble the nazis]

Rhird Teich.
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>>388331263
>>388331434

It's actually not a good theory at all.

If this picture was accurate, you wouldn't be able to see stars in the sky.

If we're still talking about HL2, you wouldn't be able to see stars in the sky, but some HL2 skyboxes clearly have stars.
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>>388331434
Not that anon but you're right. All a Dyson Sphere has to contain is a star.

But it CAN contain planets too if it's as big as a solar system.

>>388331605
I don't think he implied that a Dyson Sphere was encircling OUR solar system but the home world of the Combine.

It's an example.
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>>388331605
The dyson sphere isn't in our solar system.
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>>388329194
>Combine snatching planets from their star systems and planting them within a designated sector along with other planets with their enslaved races
Neat.
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>>388331729
>But it CAN contain planets too if it's as big as a solar system.
Would take way way more material to make for no gain.
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>>388328792
underrated post
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>>388331729
>>388331732

>pic literally has the word "earth" in it

fuck off
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Dyson Swarms > Dyson Spheres
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>>388329414
He's talking about the Kardashev scale. Basically how the Combine are at least 3 tiers higher than us as we're not even a tier 1 race yet.
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>>388331928
It's an example retard. You clearly have a pea brain and don't understand the concept so it was necessary to show you what a dyson sphere is.
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This is pretty neat too.
>it's inhabitants are almost literally cavemen
I haven't watched the series, but I can't really fathom how they built this shit.
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>Dyson Sphere

Is this /v/'s favorite new word of the week?
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>>388331928
Fucking dumbass, it's an example of one. The story heavily implies he's been teleported to a Combine hub where there IS a dyson sphere. if the combine had built up shit around earth there would be no reason for the conflict in the games, which clearly illustrate a scrappy Combine using primarily transhumans to keep their foothold.
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>>388332221
a bunch of children discovered the concept of a dyson sphere for the first time due to the HL2E3 ''plot''
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>>388332221
It's a concept that's been around forever. There's a Star Trek episode about it.

It's being brought up due to the news about Half Life 3. Get your head out of your ass.
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>>388332195

>example that makes literally no sense

thats not how examples work

you called the planet "PLANET", not fucking "earth" because it completely, utterly changes the definition of the example, unless you're a retard who thinks the word "earth" is just a generic name for the word planet.
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>>388332420
That's because when dyson shells are considered theoretically, the basic example is one with a radius of 1 AU. Same with ringworlds. That's pretty traditional. There's even a book about that. You're just compensating because you've never read about this shit before in your life
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>>388332420
I just realized you're doing all of this on purpose.
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>>388328798
to make a matrioshka brain
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>>388332420
Not them but Earth was used for size/scale reference, baitposter. If you just put "planet" then that doesn't get the size across because planets vary wildly in size
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>Have a dyson sphere
>Still have difficulty invading Earth
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>>388332547

What the FUCK are you talking about?

I commented on the person's theory that the earth was wrapped inside a dyson sphere and how it was wrong, period.

His picture does not imply anything else, if that's not the example he wanted to make it's on him.
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>>388332696
>plot of entire series turns around the discovery and potential scalability of teleportation to Earth/Earth's dimension

duhhhh buhhhh fuhhhhh
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>>388327568
This. Kids jumped headfirst into most retarded wank I have ever seen.

>>388327626
It's retarded to assume they have more than one when only one is ever shown or mentioned.
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Would the engery required to make a dyson sphere even make it worth it?

Does the solar system even have enough matter to construct one? Wouldn't it need almost entirely rare metals?
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>>388329074
they came to earth to steal transdimmensional portal tech. how do you fucking retards not know that by now.
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>>388332370
>a bunch of children discovered the concept of a dyson sphere for the first time due to the HL2E3 ''plot''

This. Kids who have never heard of it have their minds blown by something that's been around for decades in numerous universes.
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Not that related, but I think the idea is interesting of the transition from one Dyson sphere to multiple Dyson spheres. What media touches on that expansions? It gets assumed that you either have a bunch or none, so I'd like to explore the power struggles or logistics of that situation if anyone has some reading.
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>>388332612

That is such a huge stretch to save that bullshit pic.

The scale of the planet is not relevant to the point at hand, and if the name of the planet will completely change the interpretation of your pic, you should find another way to convey it.

Just own up to your shitty pic and shitty idea.
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>>388332914
The materials involved are always theoretical but it's often noted that there is certainly enough material that, if we could transmutate or could use every atom freely, it would be possible within our solar system.

>>388332768
You're the dumbass who thought starkiller was a dyson sphere homeboy, read a book
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>>388327626
>"they have one"
>"they must also have trillions!"
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>>388333139

>You're the dumbass who thought starkiller was a dyson sphere homeboy, read a book

nigger my first post is here:

>>388331605

I just commented on the retardation of the picture and a bunch of idiots got triggered.
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>>388333120
It was supposed to show that in the original concept the sphere would be as large as Earth's orbit around the sun, nothing else.
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>>388329320

HL3 came out.
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>>388332980
Because that's how they found us and how they invaded us after we accidentally went to Xen? And did you miss the part about our oceans and the beta stuff like the Air Exchanger?
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How useful would the Earth's meager resources be to a civilization capable of building something as immense as Dyson sphere? If they stole all of our water, they'd be able to build an ocean that covers one one-thousandth of a percent of their home planet.
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>>388333374


>hl2 episode 3 thread talking about combine dyson spheres

>hl1 and hl2 take place on earth

Yeah, nah.
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>>388327568
>>388327626
The entire point is that even having one is more than humanity could accomplish even if given countless centuries.
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>>388333320
It's inherent when discussing dyson spheres that nothing is on the inside because it would reduce energy absorption on the surface. Everyone here knows that except you, apparently
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>>388333139
if we were that advanced couldn't we just convert matter into energy and save ourselves millenia of troubles?

I mean you're talking about straight up alchemy. If we can do fucking alchemy then why bother with a fucking pain in the ass sphere?
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>>388328798
It's not"all you could ever want".
Imagine having a 32 gig SD card to stick DS ROMs into it. Sure, it's way more space than you'd ever need but... What if you want to download the full ROMset?
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>>388333539
I mean the original concept that the Dyson guy invented 60 years ago, m8.
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>>388333502
Why do you think the Combine ever cared about Earth's natural resources? There's literally zero reason to believe that is the case.
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>>388333320

What the fuck are you fucking talking about you fucking idiot? Nobody is saying Earth is inside a Dyson Sphere. Nobody ever said that. People are trying to explain to your retarded ass what the fuck a Dyson Sphere IS and why fucking Death Star or Starkiller are not examples of one. A Dyson Sphere is a sphere that CONTAINS A SOLAR SYSTEM INSIDE IT.
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>>388327568
This is why valve didn't use Laidlaws writing.
Probably also why Laidlaw got pissed and released his version which is fan fic.
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>>388332914
There is easily enough material in Mercury, if we mined the whole thing down to nothing. There's also more than enough material in the Sun.
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How would you even get close enough to build without having your shit getting burned up?
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>>388333584

I'm not arguing what is or isn't a dyson sphere, I just called the pic retarded because it is in half-life's context.

Get fucked.
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>>388333641
It's a theoretical object, jesus christ, it's something to write books about. It is presented theoretically as the absolute upper limit of what energy would be available to a highly advanced civilization. Nothing is bigger or more efficient. The only utility in mentioning it in the story is just to totally dwarf Earth's hopes of remaining free or ever becoming dominant, because the only thing separating Earth from total enslavement is space and time. If it sound s outlandish, that's the fucking point. Gordon's staring into the abyss, that's why he's given up
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>>388333746
>CONTAINS A SOLAR SYSTEM INSIDE IT
Not exactly. It contains a single star inside, which the sphere harnesses energy from.
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>>388333734
Why did they steal our water, then?
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>>388333851
Boo hoo, boo hoo hoo
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>>388333584

Pure nonsense. Something as small as a planet would reduce it by an amount that's too small to even measure. It wouldn't be even noticeable. Do you have any idea how tiny planets are compared to the surface area of a DS? It's like a grain of sand in a massive solar panel farm, it's not going to hinder shit.

Only reason to not have shit inside the sphere is because it allows you to make the sphere smaller, saving building costs.
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>>388333746

>Nobody is saying Earth is inside a Dyson Sphere. Nobody ever said that.

Factually incorrect.
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>>388333851
>I'm just arguing because I interpreted the example wrong and can't accept that it was entirely my fault

Fixed.
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>>388333978

Ah, the shitpost of defeat, a 4chan classic.
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>>388333851
>>388333982
That picture has nothing to do with half-life. The guy made it to illustrate how large a dyson sphere is to the guy who called starkiller a dyson sphere. Earth was put in as a size reference.
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>>388333880
>steal our water
What exactly is your evidence for this? There are a lot of explanations for dried lakes and rivers, such as diverting rivers to build infrastructure, cataclysmic seismic activity during war, etc.
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>>388327568
Making the thread a sticky was a mistake.
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>>388329623
You think civilization would still exist as we know it and wouldn't have mass chimpouts if they did?
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>>388334078
"get fucked" sounds pretty defeated to me
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>>388333982

Point to a post in this thread that said that that wasn't just you sperging out or interpreting size comparisons as maps.
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>>388334051

A bad example doesn't get interpreted badly, it's a bad example.
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>>388331928
>>388332768
>>388333320
here you go you giant fucking baby
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>wow they have a dyson sphere, a super complex piece of engineering we thought only possible in theory
>they are obviously superior to us there is no use in fighting them
>HURRRRRRRRRR JUST CUZ THEY SUPERIOR TO US DOESN'T MEAN THERE SUPERIEOR TO EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE DURRRRRRRRRRRR
>who cares nerd? the human race is literally like ants to something that wants to subjugate and actively destroy us and you're arguing that aliens who may or may not exist could potentially be more powerful than the combine?
>HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUR
>stop
>DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>388334238
This thread is people who already knew what a dyson sphere is and people who didn't. Take the L. You've gotten so much more mad than you ever would if you had just learned with an open mind
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>>388334275
>Sphere
>It's actually just a circle
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>>388334134

>That picture has nothing to do with half-life.

Do you know what thread you are in?

>>388334227

>the picture doesn't count!!!! lalala

It does, your squealing won't change that fact.
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>>388334345
That would be a niven ring. Pretend it's a fuckin sphere baby
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>>388334316
>making one of those shitty strawman comics as a post
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>>388334321

I ain't even mad, I just point out a bad pic, a bad example in a thread talking about the combine dyson spheres and people got absolutely triggered.

>>388334275

Thanks bro!
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>>388334275
ftfy
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>>388334316
eat shit, lib. :)
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>>388327780
HOLY SHIT, you guys are fucking idiots. THE COMBINE CAN'T GO TO OTHER DIMENSIONS (i.e. Xen). They can only teleport from one universe to another. They need Eli and Mossman to master their local teleportation technology, which barely works in HL2. why is /v/ so retarded?!
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>>388334345
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>>388330383
>>388328902
These are the people you share this board with.
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>>388328523
Why didn't the humans just teleport nukes into the guts of anything that looked at them crossways?
Just port a nuke into the Dyson sphere control center.
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>>388334345
>He doesn't have a 3D display

Get out of here plebe.
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>>388334525
Are you trolling or retarded? Universes and dimensions are the same thing in HL.
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>>388334375

The only retard here is you. You interpreted the picture wrong. It's entirely on you. You fucking dumb autistic piece of shit.
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>>388334410
>Misleading people into believing your ringworld example was actually a dyson sphere
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>>388334529
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>>388333439
they us because we opened ghe connection
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>>388334731
ah I didn't know it was a troll thread. carry on.
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>>388334525
It's the other way around. The Combine can travel between dimensions (they conquered Xen), but can't travel efficiently within a dimension, which is why they use relatively primitive vehicles.
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>>388333120
wow you're autistic. The original premise of a Dyson sphere was that it was 1 AU away from the sun
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>>388334508
>I just point out a bad pic

There's nothing wrong with the pic other than you interpreting it as a map when it was clearly an abstract illustration to show scale.
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>>388334512
>Square hole and a giant sun shaped hole in the sphere
For what purpose? That's not efficient.
>Captcha: star 2012
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>>388333746
>containd a solar system inside.


HOLY FUCKING SHIT. A DYSON SPHERE CONTAINS A STAR YOU FUCKING RETARDED /B/ SHITTER FUCK FUCK FUCK
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>>388334731

>The only retard here is you. You interpreted the picture wrong. It's entirely on you. You fucking dumb autistic piece of shit.

Stay ultra salty.

The pic says earth, in a thread talking about a game that takes place on earth, about a faction that has dyson technology who took over earth.

If the intention was to use the scale, the onus is on the image maker.

There is literally no debating this, your autism won't change this.
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>>388330383

But Picard is a Jedi, right?
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>144/24/65
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>they have dyson sphere
>its actually a solid spherical shell that englobes the sun

Why is that Dyson spheres are always depicted like that?
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>>388334963
>There is literally no debating this

There isn't because it's clear you're wrong. You're wrong because due to your autism you interpret everything literally and throw a tantrum like a fucking child when people explain to you you're not supposed to do that. You're such an autist that even after 5 or 6 different people explained the concept to you you still babbled on about "earth sphere theory" like your mistaken interpretation that existed only in your own head was an actual argument somebody had actually made.
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>>388335132
I mean, what else would you go for?
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QUIT REPLYING TO THE SHITTER.
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>>388335132
>spherical
Does pic related look spherical to you, nigga?
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>>388328607
>le pickle rick paid advertising
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>inter-dimensional space empire capable of constructing Dyson spheres and almost certainly enslaving zillions of worlds, including "Carbon stars with ancient satellites colonized by sentient fungi. Gas giants inhabited by vast meteorological intelligences. Worlds stretched thin across the membranes where [the] dimensions intersect..."
>capable of inter-dimensional travel
>incapable of intra-dimensional travel
>somehow, humanity's best minds were able to achieve this despite being millions of years behind the Combine in terms of technological advancement
what
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>>388335132

It's not an actual sphere if it's not that. It's also the most efficient configuration. A Dyson Swarm would be far easier to build, but less efficient at actually gathering the energy.
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>>388334575
That would be like trying to kill somebody by throwing a grain of sand at him.
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>>388334512
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>>388327568
kill yourself OP
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>>388335191

>There isn't because it's clear you're wrong. You're wrong because due to your autism you interpret everything literally and throw a tantrum like a fucking child

The *only* way I can be wrong is if this thread wasn't about Half-Life.

Somehow, I doubt a video game board creates threads to talk about the definition of Dyson Spheres.

There is no debating this, and the REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE from your post is palatable, please continue replying.
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>>388335342
Why is it that the paint bucket tool still cannot fucking fill correctly
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>>388335303
You've seen /v/ drawthreads, right?
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>>388335486
the left sphere was painted with the spraycan.
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>>388335486
Because some of the Paint tools are anti-aliased. Use something with a harder edge
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>>388335486
its an error with compression. the edges that are not filled in are not the same white as the area that was filled
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>/v/ now has regular Dyson Sphere threads
The greatest challenge future AI will face is predicting the posting habits of this board.
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>>388335305
Humanity found out how to easily teleport entirely by (((((accident))))), or rather by the designs of the G Man and whoever is behind him.
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>>388329685
Correct.The Death Star is much stronger that a dyson sphere.It can produce in minutes the same amount of energy the Sun makes in hundreds of years.
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>>388334961
Lol triggered
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>>388336041
Wouldn't this discovery, accidental or planted, be the big reason why the Combine even care about earth? Trying to find the one technology they don't have.
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if YOU were in the writing team of half life 3,and you could write anything you want,how would you write the ending of half life 3?
how does one destroy the combine?
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>>388336612
Combine come to Earth because of the resonance cascade, so it's entirely possible that they were looking for teleportation tech.
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>>388336612
And even if that's true, they still sent a pathetically inadequate force to subjugate the planet compared to what they're probably capable of.
>the absolute STATE of HL lore
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>>388335879
not really, /tv/v/pol/ is basically one board
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>>388336647
Reverse the flux capacitor on the Borealis, turning it into a black hole. Teleport it into the Combine's sun. Dyson sphere is now just a big, cold ball.
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>>388336741
They won the war in 7 hours. They don't want to destroy the planet, they want to salvage the teleportation technology and possibly harvest all the natural resources from Earth (hence why the oceans are being drained).
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>>388336931
not terrible
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>>388328798
the combine always want more because that's the sort of mindset that let them build a dyson sphere in the first place

I bet when every single universe is filled to the brim with nothing but combine property they would start discovering ways to make new universes, just to have something to expand into
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>>388336647
Thats what Mossman wanted to do - harvest the technology from the Borealis and use it to develop a weapon capable of giving the resistance a REAL edge

Then dumb bitch Alyx killed her and decided to use the GAME CHANGING TECHNOLOGY to make a tiny scratch on the dyson sphere
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>>388336931
great
>>388337172
what did alyx do?
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I'm glad the game got scrapped. Giving the Combine such an absurd powerlevel would have made it impossible for Gordon to succeed. Everything else would have been plot armor and asspulls.
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>dyson sphere

Uh, okay eggheads, maybe you could rephrase that in ENGLISH?
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>>388337272
in the letter from Gordon Freeman with all this plot, she shot Judith Mossman after Mossman kicked her ass and was turning off the suicide bomb of the Borealis
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so what kind of gurren lagann tier asspull would gordon needed to have to pull to defeat the combine?
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>>388337428
*folds piece of paper in half*
*pokes a hole through it*
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>>388337272
Killed Mossman, set the Borealis to go nuclear and ram the Combine base.
Turns out the Combine base (if it was even their base and not just an interdimensional train station) is a Dyson sphere (space station wrapped around a star) and the Borealis detonating against it would be like trying to sink a battleship with a firecracker.
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>>388336963
I mean, might as well loot the planet while you're here? It's a drop in the bucket for a multidimensional civilization, but you might as well put yourself at a net gain for resources if you're bothering to invade to find the teleporter tech. .
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>>388337640
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>>388337584
Why would he have to defeat them?
Sometimes there are battles that just can't be won.
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>>388337584
dissolving his physical body and becoming some kind of fourdimensional space ghost
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>>388337782
because they're evil
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>>388337317
It doesn't matter how powerful they are as long as they have no way of getting back to Earth.

Tbh I don't understand how that makes sense anyway, since they're supposed to be capable of inter-dimensional travel and presumably know exactly where Earth is, can someone explain this?
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>>388337640
That would work better for simplifying a wormhole though.
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>>388336647
The planet destroyer in Ender's Game could do it. The matter it destroys powers the destruction of all adjacent matter, causing a chain reaction which can destroy an object of unlimited size.
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>everyone is suddenly an expert on megastructures
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Dyson we can't hear you suck you dick
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Dyson spheres are basically unlimited energy.

One around our sun would produce 400 septillion watts a second
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>tfw there was no mention of Chell showing up with the OP portal gun
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>>388337871
They can teleport to a ROUGH area (like universe to universe or dimension to dimension or whatever HL was using), but Aperture shit was extremely precise, almost on the same level as G-Man's magic door shit except requiring being there already. And it's possible that if they had the aperture shit that they could have eliminated the requirement of having to be there to use it.

>>388337584
I guess he could portal it into a black hole or something?
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>>388338027
Shut the fuck up, Rei.
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>>388338125
Nobody cares, Dweebmeyer
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I would literally rather KILL MYSELF than fight for some suck resistance
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>>388329614
I'm not even mad anymore
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>>388338148
So does that mean with the Borealis destroyed, they essentially have no way of getting back to Earth?

Then why are people complaining about the ending being bleak? Humanity is essentially saved, there's a good chance they could take on the Combine still left on Earth and win.
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>>388337584
Get a chunk of iron and put it between two portals inside a vacuum tube, then let it fall forever to give it infinite energy, then shoot it at the star inside the dyson sphere
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>>388336963
>(hence why the oceans are being drained).
That seems more like a 'fuck you' than anything else, or the Combines spacefaring technology is woefully underdeveloped compared to their interdimensional travel.
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>>388332696
they won in 7 hours
then they installed minimum possible security on earth just because it's more mathematically efficient in the long run to occasionally come back and squash a planet for the second time than to keep real forces around for every backwater shithole you conquer

it's like in HOMM 3 when you give your scouting hero 1 centaur, it's not representative of your real forces at all
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>>388327568
What is a dyson sphere?
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>>388327568
>>388327568
>"The next thing I clearly recall is our final approach to the coordinates Dr. Mossman has provided, and where we expected to find the Borealis. What we found instead was a complex fortified installation, showing all the hallmarks of sinister Combine technology"
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>>388337317
>Implying that Combine are the real enemy


>Gman observes that Earth is developing time travel technology
>Gman uses the resonance cascade to lure Combine to Earth
>One guy somehow survives the entire ordeal, Gman is impressed and "recruits" him on the spot
>Combine proceed to demolish entire Earth in a single afternoon
>Gman leads Gordon to the Borealis
>Gordon travels back in time using the Borealis to kill the proto-Combine ensuring that the entire collective ceases to exist
>Time stops, all surroundings darken
>An elevator door opens shining white light everywhere
>Out of the blinding white light - Gman walks out
>Gman thanks Gordon for his services and terminates his employement
>Gman fixes his tie and walks back into the elevator
>The door closes
>Credits roll

Gman is a contract "assassin", his current target were the Combine.
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>negates your Borealis' attack
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>>388338518
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+dyson+sphere%3F
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>>388338441
Gman pulled Alyx out and the Vortigaunts pulled Gordon out

The issue is that Alyx blew up their big chance at fucking up the Combine or at least scaring them off by purging the Aperture Borealis tech. Without Eli's intelligence or Gman's alien materials, Black Mesa's former team is YEARS from making some new shit.

The only alternative way to fight against the Combine is essentially finding Aperture's underground research facility and convincing a testing focused AI to hand over some portal technology.
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>>388332886
>It's retarded to assume they have more than one when only one is ever shown or mentioned.
No it's not once you actually start thinking about the logistics. It's actually more retarded to think they would stop at one.

Also It was said that one of the main reasons Valve removed developers from HL3 in recent years is because of the hate ME3 got for not living up to the expectations. So how does it feel to know that /v/ contributed to the death of HL3?
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The real question is if the teleportation technology is such hot shit for the Combine, why are the only forces on earth native PD and a bunch of locally grown synths? Even if earth and its inhabitants aint shit, their failure to provide meaningful defenses for such an important asset was still taken advantage of by an outside force (G-man).
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>>388338594
I liked how in the anime, when it was summoned it took a while to even get into view.
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>>388337757
Good luck getting an orange portal to stick to a black hole.
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>>388338540
Nah, G-Man being some advanced race's method of communication with humans works better. I like the idea of him being more powerful than the Combine, but not a galactic "assassin".
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>>388338125
So? The process of transporting or actually storing it would be near impossible, and the loss of the sun's regular effect on it's surroundings would be catastrophic.

If you can make something the size of the sun, you should pretty clearly have better energy sources already.
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>>388337757
only surfaces coated with moon dust can have portals applied to them.
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>>388338806
>So how does it feel to know that /v/ contributed to the death of HL3?
The ones who sealed HL3's fate are the retards who spend a bajillion dollars on cosmetics so that a single DOTA tournament makes them more money than HL3 sales ever would.
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>tfw no sticky
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>>388336647
you don't
half life 3 ends with the humans creating a sealed-off pocket dimension smaller than the earth, knowing the combine will never get them, but that humanity will be confined to this miniscule living space forever as the combine consumes the multiverse
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>>388338594
>Blue Eyes White Dragon is slightly stronger than a Dyson Sphere
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>>388339052
the ME3 hate bandwagon was being nurtured here as well. That bandwagon is what discouraged Valve to continue. So don't be misdirecting blame now.
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>>388339010
that's not true
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>>388339151
Want to know how I know you're Swedish?
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>>388337871
They can get back to earth, it's just slow and extremely costly. It's like drilling a hole through a mountain just to get to the other side.
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>>388338806
But ME3 was a legit good game, despite having a lackluster ending. In fact, I'd say it's better than ME2.

The Citadel DLC alone was just the cherry to the top. In my headcanon, the serie ended right at the end of that DLC. The real ending doesn't matter.
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>>388339120
>tfw i have the original thread with more than 1000 posts
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>>388337757
gravity doesn't pass through portals
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>>388338806
>hate ME3 got for not living up to the expectations
ME3 got shat on because the ending was awful and the exact opposite of what they promised the ending would be. It wasn't hated for not living up to expectations
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>>388339318
Mechanically it made some improvements (and also had a shitload of bugs), but storywise it went like this

1 - While the story was focused on world building and introducing conflicts in this universe but still a solid story.
2 - Less but still existing world building (focus on non-citadel space was cool) and while the story was sort of fun it felt like an expansion pack in terms of impact to the main plotlines
3 - Ending was total garbage, and many of the plotlines were essentially "oh you let X die? well here's a doppleganger of X".
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>>388339397
Actually both of those things go hand in hand in the case of ME3. Because people EXPECTED that all the little storylines from previous game will matter in ME3 and have an impact. People EXPECTED the ending will be satisfying. So yes, it was a matter of expectations.
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>>388337317
>Giving the Combine such an absurd powerlevel would have made it impossible for Gordon to succeed
You lose, you've been played, your greatest weapon is nothing. All you've ever done is played the pawn and at the end you get discarded when you're no longer useful and your grand reward for the whole thing is seeing just how powerless you always were. It's been cosmic horror the whole time, baby.
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>>388338594
>about to type 'yugioh dyson sphere' into search bar
>Google autocompletes two letters in.
The botnet is real.
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>>388339735
Don't forget that your buddy since HL2 blows up your biggest tool against the Combine (portal/advanced teleprotation technology) because she's mad that they killed her dad
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>>388338027
Fuck off, Rei.
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>>388338027
We have a good place to learn about them

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFipeZtQM5CKUjx6grh54g
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>>388338125
What's pathetic is that the sun is already unlimited energy naturally being transported to us for the majority of the day and solar still isn't a standard for some reason.
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>>388339186

By your logic, shit games (and let's be clear, ME3 was a shit game and deserved everything it got) should never get shat on because that might make different, unrelated developers scared of making games. Is that your argument?
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>>388328607
to be fair, dyson spheres is a pretty cool concept despite how virtually impossible it is
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>>388329182
That wasn't the Empire you dingus. That was the First Order.

also that's the space equivalent of
>"i have a black friend"
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>>388338027
>dumb rei poster
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>>388335426

It doesn't matter what the fuck the THREAD is about you idiot, it matters what the POST was about. The post was clearly about explaining what the fuck a Dyson Sphere is to an idiot who was already referencing unrelated objects in Star Wars, meaning the conversation was already way out of the Half-life universe.

Can't believe you're such an autist that you're still trying to cover your ass about this. Just admit your mistake like a normal person and move on.
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>>388329074

One simple reason.

eliminating competition

any civilization left unchecked can reach a technological singularity and become a rival in no time at all

look at how much humanity progressed in 100-200 years

and in the HL universe humanity already has access to portal tech as well
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>>388339967
Good to see another IA viewer. But keep in mind, while well sourced and well thought out, don't take his videos as anything definitive. His stuff is a very good experiment, not based in actual, verifiable facts. There's a lot of things we still don't know about science and reality, though we will find out eventually. Plus, this is a video game based in SCI FI. Lots of liberties can be taken
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>>388340704
That's a part of it, but otherwise they would have just destroyed all human life as soon as possible.

Breen very likely made them aware of the fact that they were making significant strides on portal/teleportation tech when he negotiated the end of the 7 Hour War. Considering the vast resources the Combine command, having instant teleportation from one end of their empire to the other could be invaluable.
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>>388340194
what I'm trying to say is that /v/ should have prepared for unforeseen consequences
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>>388338806
But ME3 actually was shit and deserved all the flak it got.
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>>388328798
To save the world.
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>>388340072
Solar isn't a standard because current solar panel technology is inefficient, damaging to the environment, extremely expensive to produce, and generally not worth it.
However if every random schmuck had solar panels on the roof of his house there would be a lot less use of traditional power sources. However that can't happen because solar panels are expensive as fuck so only rich people can afford them.
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>>388338996
>and the loss of the sun's regular effect on it's surroundings would be catastrophic
lol not our sun
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>>388327568
It doesn't really matter, humanity is fucked either way, until Ms Vance rises and shines, i guess.
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>>388333675
32gb is enough for all the non-shovelware gaems
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>>388343456
Solar Panels are alot cheaper nowadays than they used to. Solar Plants are getting way more cost-efficient. But what are the dangers to the environment?
I'd like to have some source on that.
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>>388332696
>have a dyson sphere
>conquer entire Earth in 7 hours
>have god knows how much resources and advanced technology
>still have to drain Earth's oceans
>still can't defelop efficient teleportation technology while some puny humans on easily conquered planet could
>can't get even a fraction of the unstoppable force which was able to subjugate an entire planet to occupy it
>all the occupying forces lost to some nerd in a hazmat suit, Combine's HQ destroyed, and with it the only portal to the Combine Overworld
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>>388344126
Basically solar panels are extremely fragile and break quickly, and disposing of them is extremely difficult. Large solar farms destroy natural habitats and cook birds.
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>>388344302
How are they cooking birds?
Solar Panels are working on Photovoltaik. They aren't burning stuff.
In theory you CAN recycle Solar panels, but iirc "that job" hasn't really been picked up by anybody but the chinese at some level.
I also really want a source on environmental damage.
It's true tho about the disposal as long as people aren't really going "Solar" there also won't be people that will recycle broken panels
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>>388328607
pretty sure most people know what they are from star wars/40k/scifi novels
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>>388327568
>They have a dyson sphere
>We have a jury rigged ship
> = We're fucked.
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>>388344584
Large solar farms raise the natural temperature in the air above them, which can kill birds that fly overhead by overheating them. It's not literally cooking them, it's just raising the ambient temperature too high for them. This causes more problems, because the dead birds fall onto the solar panels and break them.
The environmental damage is the same as disposing any other hazardous material.
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>>388344189
The Combine have had both their hands tied behind their back because they don't want to destroy all the creators of the portal/teleportation technology they want. They've likely wanted this sort of precise teleportation tech for many years (like the G-Man's shit), so they aren't going to destroy the Earth until they get it
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>>388344743
Alright, yea I just checked up that claim and it makes sense. Hopefully People will find solutions to that
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>>388344928
Obviously solar energy isn't horrible and useless right now. It just needs to be made much easier to produce and recycle in order to be viable.
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>>388331263
>the combine wanted to build another sphere
>our planet is in the way
>"let's rob this planet's resources before we blow it up and start building"
>the advisors were othing more but construction workers
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OP I don't think you recognize how quickly your technological advancements increase after your race is capable of completely harnessing the power of a star.

By nature of having 1 dyson sphere there's no reason to believe they don't have hundreds.
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>>388327568
Do you realize how difficult making a Dyson sphere is?
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>>388345163
It's pretty likely they're out harvesting all the other planets in the system as well. No reason not to dig up all the iron and rare metals on Mars when you've got an army of slaves barely a single AU away.
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How are you even supposed to transfer the energy a dyson sphere creates to the planets in your system?
Seems like you'd need some very big cables
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>>388345697
Really big batteries, or you could use the sun to create bigass dark energy reactors for your ships and prefabricated housing.
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A single, very long extension cord runs from the structure to the planet in need of energy.
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>>388345697
Giant laser beams
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>>388345258
>By nature of having 1 dyson sphere there's no reason to believe they don't have hundreds.
Dyson sphere does not imply easy and efficient FTL travel.
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>>388346240
It implies interstellar travel, since the materials required to build one wouldn't be available in a single solar system.
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>>388327568
>just build dyson sphere
>some fucks from a backwater planet blow a massive hole in it with a boat

Or it could be they have thousands of them and this is an expected loss.
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>>388328798
To compete and survive against people who own more dyson spheres, and ultimately, fuck cute boipussys and not be labeled as a huge faggot by your peers.
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>>388346540
>massive hole
Anon. It's a shipping tanker. A shipping tanker crashing into earth wouldn't make a massive hole, and that's about 1/109th the diameter of the sun.

It would be like a microscopic organism crashing into you.
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>>388345697
isn't it a seal not a dolphin
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>>388346446
Built out of the sun.
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>>388346945
>Build the energy harnessing apparatus out of the energy source
?????????????
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>>388347117
ya
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>>388328607
Thanks for reminding me that in the 6 or so months I haven't been to /tv/ I've missed several hundred memes
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>>388345697
Was she rape?
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>>388346743
But isnt it powered by unstable dimentional portal technology?
It isnt your standard tanker.
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>>388344726
I actually had no fucking clue what a Dyson sphere was before this whole debacle. Granted, movies don't hold my interest too well and tabletop games don't either so take that as you will. However after reading about what it was I completely understood.
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Why do people say that Dyson Spheres are unachievable for us?
A Dyson Swarm is possible even with today's tech and it doesn't go against any known physics.
It's basically a bunch of photovoltaics around the sun.
Also, you don't build one straight away. You slowly add to it. First a few satelites with panels, then you got enough energy to add more easier, and so on.
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>>388328798
>If you have everything you want, why not show some mercy to the goyim?
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>>388347483
No, we don't rape little girls
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>>388347824
>A Dyson Swarm is possible even with today's tech
Good luck with the cooling system
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>>388327568
I remember reading an article where some scientist was arguing that Dyson Spheres are a meme. His argument boiled down to any civilization capable of creating a Dyson Sphere is so technologically advanced they'd be better off doing anything else with their time and resources.
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>>388348003
A Dyson Swarm doesn't need to be very close to the sun, not to start with at least.
Any number of shitty solar panels anywhere around the sun could count as a 'Dyson Swarm'.
Then you simply use their energy to add more and improve them, untill you have a Dyson Sphere after several generations.
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>"The story is literally pointless. The end."
Love these kind of endings. Right up there with Dead Space.
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>>388348454
Anon, a Dyson Sphere is possible with today's tech.
The only problem is the amount of material needed, but as it's been said already, you don't built it all in one go, you built a few solar panels and then add to it as needed.
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>>388348464
>Then you simply use their energy to add more and improve them, untill you have a Dyson Sphere after several generations.

Gathering and transporting the required materials alone would require technologies and scientific advancements that we'll likely never have.
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What game lets me build a Dyson sphere?
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>>388345697
That's why you don't.
It's usually easier/cheaper/more practical to build space habitats near or in your Dyson Swarm.
You don't need cables if all your infastructure is there.
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>>388332696
They conquered Earth in 7 hours.
The retaliation that was supposed come in Episode 2 would end the resistance in less than 7 minutes.
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>>388348746
You'll be suprised what we could be able to do with basically infinite energy.
And in the first place, sticking rockets on an asteroid isn't anything spectacular.
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>>388346708
>can harvest the sun and drill holes between universes
>still can't make traps not gay
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>>388348636
>Anon, a Dyson Sphere is possible with today's tech.
No, we don't have a material that could handle the structural stress.
We also don't have the technology to keep it in position.
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>>388347589
no worries, I was generalizing because I know those medias are popular here. I've never played 40k tabletop either, just read the novels and video games
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Why are Dyson spheres almost always portrayed as solid shells mostly shrouding the star they're built around?

It'd be much more practical to build them as a massive web of connected rotating habitats similar to O'neill cylinders.
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>>388349081
ITS ABOUT THE MEMES ANON

HE WHO CONTROLS THE MEMES CONTROL THE UNIVERSE
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>>388349258
Then you're missing light.
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>>388349060
>You'll be suprised what we could be able to do with basically infinite energy.

We do not have remotely close to the technology needed to reliable store or transport the energy from a dyson swarm in any meaningful way, and won't for some time.

>And in the first place, sticking rockets on an asteroid isn't anything spectacular.

I think the problem is that you are conflating "we've started light steps and experiments with these ideas" with "we can do that now and if we tried harder and spent more money we would do it better".

Successfully landing anything on an Asteroid is still a huge achievement and an astronomically difficult feat.
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>>388349104
We do, but we can't mass produce it yet.
Also, a Dyson Sphere doesn't need to be a massive ball. It can literally be just a few million small satellites.
If we could shit out a few trillion of the satellites we had even in the 60s and 70s and place them around the sun, that's a Dyson Swarm.
Obviously we lack the material for that many, but asteroid mining and such stuff aren't sci-fi pipedreams, they will happen.
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>>388349258
If you're building it to capture energy, then you'd want as much surface area as possible.

But in fiction it often comes down to what kind of superstructures the author makes possible in their universe. Sometimes it's more like what you say.
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>>388349521
>We do, but we can't mass produce it yet.
No we don't.
>inb4 muh carbon nanotubes
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>>388349485
Anon, I'm not saying we could do it in the forseeable future if we poured enough money into it.
But, the concept doesn't require any new science or technologies than what we already have.
Certainly, taking advantage of the energy would require us to build our infastructure in space and that's where our tech falls short.
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>>388333551
This

Why is it so hard for some people to grasp?
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>>388332980
>hey came to earth to steal transdimmensional portal tech
How can they have the tech to build Dyson Spheres and not transdimensional portal tech?
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>>388349778
Forget about carbon tubes and other meme marerials.
Can we build solar panels? Yes.
Can we put them in space? Yes.
Thus, we can make a Dyson Swarm.
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>>388349814
>the concept doesn't require any new science or technologies than what we already have
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>>388349814
>if we poured enough money into it
defense budgets come first. you would have to get the entire globe operating under one government before its possible to fund that shit
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>>388349814
>But, the concept doesn't require any new science or technologies than what we already have.

It requires battery storage or transmission tech far better than what we have, and likely some sort of major paradigm shift in either.
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>>388349870
Combine don't shower, therefore no shower curtain companies.
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>>388327568
Wouldn't it be better to just small tiny dyson spheres containing small artificial suns directly into your ships and onto your planets?
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>>388349948
You said dyson sphere.
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>>388349950
Anon it's literally photovoltaics in space.
You're not gonna build a ball around the sun in one go.
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>>388350061
>photovoltaics in space
You know that's not the hard part, right?
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>>388332980
Nope, they came to steal intradimensional portal tech.
They can teleport between dimensions, thats their thing.

They cant teleport within the same dimension without jumping to another dimension in between, which is way way way slower, and requires a bigger infrastructure.
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>>388350061
>"I put 5 satallites up I made dyson swarm!"
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>>388349974
Read my post again.
The most efficient thing we can do is build our infastructure right next to them, and indeed we lack the technology for that at the moment.
BUT, it is scientifically possible.
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>super advanced alien civilization
>has had inter-dimensional teleportation for some time
>can't figure out how to teleport between points in the same dimension
>G-Man helps humans develop inter-dimensional teleportation
>despite having their planet conquered, they create single-dimension teleportation in a matter of years
>Cave Johnson did the same without any help in the 1950s too
Some advanced race the Combine are
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>>388350157
Yes. A really small, shitty one, but still a Dyson Swarm.
Or do you think we'll just build a ball around the sun all in one go?
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>>388350235
>doesn't require any new... technologies than what we already have.
>and indeed we lack the technology for that at the moment.
One of these things is not like the other.
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>>388350257
Yumanity aren't the ones with the interdimensional empire though.
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>>388349814
>>388350235
>the concept doesn't require any new science or technologies than what we already have.
>we lack the technology for that at the moment.
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>>388330383
TFA is not canon
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>>388350425
>>388350471
To take advantage of a Dyson Swarm's energy we would need to build infastructure right next to it.
O'Neill cylinders and the like. Those are scientifically possible, but we can't mass produce a strong enough material for them yet.
That said, nothing's stopping us from making really small factories the size of the ISS or something.
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>>388348779
stellaris
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>>388350774
>muh carbon nanotubes
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>>388350774
We do not have the technology for O'Neill cylinders. Artificial gravity is needed for such a thing and simply rotating a cylinder to generate centrifugal force isn't enough. The gravity you feel on your head would be different from the gravity on your feet, and it would make living or even moving in such a structure extremely difficult.
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>>388351113
I don't know about that, but even without megastructures we could still make factories the size of our current space stations to take advantage of potential solar panel energy.
I'm not trying to argue a Dyson Swarm is something we should even consider for the next few hundred years, what I'm saying is that it's potentially possible even without any new technologies.
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For. anyone who wants to know more about Dyson Spheres.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlmKejRSVd8&t=7s
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>>388350774
>>388351414
Making a factory the size of the ISS is not amazing.
The reason dyson swarms are impressive is because of the scale.
If you're not even close to capturing a percent of the sun's output it's not a dyson swarm.
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>>388352002
You have to start somewhere.
A few hundred satellites, not much unlike those we have today, powering factories roughly the size of the ISS is probably what our first 'Dyson Swarm' will look like.
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>>388347485
hmmm how could it be
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>>388345697
no planets? just structures
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>people talking about dyson swarm
>they don't realize you can't have satellites being stationary from each other in a 3d distribution, only in a plane
It's like you didnt even play KSP
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>>388328540
Do dyson spheres create matter? Because even with unlimited energy it's not like you can just spawn another dyson sphere from nothing. Star sized structures aren't built with energy.
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>>388352503
At that point, the dyson sphere probably could duplicate itself with self replicating nanobots.
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>>388352435
>you can't have satellites being stationary from each other in a 3d distribution
Yes you can.
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>>388352746
At which point? He is asking if it can create matter, and it has only been stated that i can collect energy.
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>>388352874
Oh really?
In that case, you could cover a planet with geostationary satellites then, right?
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>we have dyson sphere
>we must invade small planets and steal their resources
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>>388352503
Just having the resources to build a megastructure without bankrupting your empire is impressive by itself, so I think the point here is moot
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>>388352982
They can be stationary with respect to each other without being geostationary.
>needing a solar panel to be geostationary
tard
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>>388352982
I don't understand how moving would be a problem for a Dyson Swarm.
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>>388353016
Earth was just the entry point to this dimension
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>>388353121
Im not saying that it need to be stationary.

But here is the thing... How comes equiatorial orbits are the only that can be geostationary?

>>388353148
Because orbits move in a plane that crosses the center of the of the planet. Go ahead and try to select orbits so they all are stationary relative to each other.
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>>388352746
I like the sound of stripping planets of their useful resources using massive amounts of nano bots. I've just realized planet's cores are where most of the useful stuff is. I think civilization capable of building dyson spheres could harvest a planet's core in a reasonable amount of time.
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>>388353464
The fact that Earth's surface doesn't run into itself should make it patently obvious you could have a 3D distribution of points in space that are stationary with respect to each other.
It's fine if they need to thrust sometimes since they're soaking up all the sun's energy.
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>>388353464
I'm afraid your english is as terrible as their undestanding of orbits.
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>>388353464
There's no reason the various components of you 'Dyson Swarm' need to be stationary to each other.
Even then you can potentially make an early swarm around Earth's orbit and expand it outwards like a ring.
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>>388328540
You have all the energy you want but not other resources which you would have to pull from other planets or asteroids.

Unless they can create matter out of pure energy I guess.
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>>388353749
>Even then you can potentially make an early swarm around Earth's orbit and expand it outwards like a ring.
Exactly.
My point is that a stationary sphere made of smaller satellites is impossible.
A dyson swarm can only be a series of rings around the start.
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>>388353693
This is flatearther tier reasoning.
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>>388340430
>virtually impossible
Which is why having one means you're probably all powerful. I don't get this meme.
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>>388335342
Thanks doc
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>>388353956
A sationary sphere around the sun is a sci-fi pipedream.
But, a swarm of trillions of O'Nell cylinders in various orbits around the sun is still a Dyson Swarm, a naturally occuring one probably.
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Marc Laidlaw's entire plot for Episode 3 was retarded and I'm glad it was scrapped and never used. Revealing that the Combine have Dyson spheres just proves they are so advanced that invading earth and stealing their resources is pointless for them. If they wanted to cull Earth in order to eliminate a potential competitor for galactic supremacy, then they should have just obliterated Earth without a second though. This revelation that "they have dyson spheres! they're all-powerful! we can never beat them!" just proves the entire conquest of Earth was pointless and so is the plot to Half Life 2.
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>>388340430
It's not impossible.
Well, the whole 'ball around the sun' part is.
But a Dyson Swarm or ring is very much possible.
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>>388354210
>a naturally occuring one probably.
Not really, the mass of the satellites interact with each other, attracting themselves into one single orbit. Just look at Saturn.
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>>388353945
>Dismantle every planet/moon/asteroid in star system.
>Turn material into Dyson sphere.
>Go to different star.
>Dismantle every planet/moon/asteroid in that star system.
>Turn material into Dyson sphere, now using energy from the first Dyson sphere
>Repeat ad infinitum
Was that so hard?
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>>388354471
Do you know how big a fucking dyson sphere would have to be?

It has to be a safe distance from a star and stars are fucking huge in the first place.
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>>388354471
>using energy from the first Dyson sphere
>can't barely transmit energy from a room to another
>transmit energy from one star to another
Anon, that's a whole new ground breaking tech in itself.
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>>388354273
>the entire conquest of Earth was pointless
Not necesarilly, Earth opened a bridge to an entirely new dimension for them, the combine had to cross to be able to keep the portal open.

>and so is the plot to Half Life 2.
Nope, the whole point of the plot of HL2 was to destroy what was keeping the portal open cutting off this dimension from the combine's reach
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>>388327568
>the entire reson for the dyson sphere mention was just to depict how out fucking matched we are against the combine
>it could have been literally any other super structure
>/v/ goes on about the cost / efficiency of building one
autism
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>>388354446
>>388353464
This thread is actually fucking me up.
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>>388354663
Not that anon, but it's not.
Look into Dyson-Nichols Sphere.
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>>388354606
>Do you know how big a fucking dyson sphere would have to be?
In diameter? Fuck huge. In mass? Not nearly as much as most people think. The sphere doesn't have to be particularly thick. You could build a Dyson sphere out of mercury.
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>>388354862
>its would not be another theory
>just look at this other theory
Ok....
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>>388327568
One is enough to know humanity is fucked. How many dyson spheres do we have?
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>>388353945
>Unless they can create matter out of pure energy I guess.
Sort of.
First, you can pull materials out of the sun itself.
Second, you can use fusion to make heavier elements out of lighters ones.
We actually have fusion today, but the problem is we use way too much energy making it inneficient.
But if you have a few thousand solar panels to work with you don't care about energy efficiency and you can just use fusion to make metals out of hydrogen.
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>Half Life: Full Life Consequences - A Short Story by Marc Laidlaw
Gertie Fremont who was Gordon Freeman's brother was one day in an office typing on a computer. he got an email from his brother that said that aliens and monsters were attacking his place and aksed him for help so he went.
Gertie Fremont got his computer shut down and wet on the platform to go to the roof of the building where he left his icebreaker and normal people close because he was in his office lab coat. Gertie Fremont got on his Hyperborea and said "it's time for me to live up to my family name and face full life consequences" so he had to go.
Gertie Fremont ramped off the building and did a back flip and landed. he kept driving down the road and made sure there was no zombies around because he ddint have wepon.
The countrysides were nice and the plants were singing and the birds and the sun was almost down from the top of the sky. the mood was set for Gertie Fremonts quest to help his brother where he was. Gertie Fremont looked around the countrysides and said "its a good day to do what has to be done by me and help my brother to defeat the enemys".
Gertie Fremont was late so he had to drive really fast. A cop car was hidden near by so when Gertie Fremont went by the cops came and wanted to give him a ticket. here Gertie Fremont saw the first monster because the cop was posessed and had headcrabs.
"I can't give you my license officer" Gertie Fremont said
"Why not" said the headcrab oficer back to Gertie Fremont
"Because you are headcrab zombie!!" so Gertie Fremont shot the officer in the head and drove off thinking "my brother is in trouble there" and went fastered.
Gertie Fremont had to go faster like the speed of sound and got there fast because Gordon needed him where he was.
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>>388354998
I dont know what you want anon, everything about Dyson Spheres/Swarms is theoretical, it's not like we've actually built one yet.
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>>388354992
>The sphere doesn't have to be particularly thick
Well, you don't want the entire thing to collapse at the slightest asteroid impact.

You would need materials to make a shitton of solar panels or whatever it is the aliens came up with. Automated drones to keep it in shape. All kinds of shit really.
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>>388355171
Gertie Fremont looked around at the road signs and asw "Ravenholm" with someons writing under it saying "u sudnt come here" so Gertie Fremont almost turned around but heard screaming like Gordon so he went faster again.
Gertie Fremont droves in and did another flip n jumped off his Hyperborea and the icebreaker took out some headcrab zombies infront of Gertie Fremont. Gertie Fremont smiled and walked fast. Gertie Fremont than looked on the ground and found wepon so he pickd it up and fired fast zombie goasts in front of a house.
Gertire Fremont said "zombie goasts leave this place" and the zombie goasts said "but this our house :(" and Gertie Fremont felt sorry for them becaus they couldnt live there because they were zombie goasts so he blew up the house and killed the zombie goasts so they were happy.
Then Gertie Fremont herd another scream from his brother so he kept walking really faster to get where he was. Ravenholdm was nothing like the countrysides there was no birds singing and the pants were dead and teh dirt was messy and bloody from headcrabs.
When Gertie Fremont got to where the screaming started from where he found his brother Gordon Freeman fightin the dyson sphere and Gordon said "Gertie Fremont over here!" so Gertie Fremont went there so see where Gordon was fighting. Gertie Fremont fired his bullet from teh gun really fast and the bullets went and shot the dyson sphere in the collection ports and the dyson sphere couldn't syphon.
Gordon Freeman said "it's time to end this ones and for all!" and punched the dyson sphere in the face and the dyson sphere exploded. Gertie Fremont said "thanks i could help, bro" and Gordon Freeman said "you should come here earlier next time" and they laughed.
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>>388355095
>First, you can pull materials out of the sun itself.
>Already stated you have to be fucking far of the star, yet you want to get closer to get matter... and then the trip back...

>you can use fusion to make heavier elements out of lighters ones
>1+1 = 2
>somehow this proves you can make matter out of thin air
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>>388333551
>countless counteries
ye no shit because combines attacked us, without them fucking shit up it would be probably possible with how we get new tech faster and faster
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>>388355315
The laughed overed quickly tho because Gertie Fremont yelled "LOOK OUT BRO!" and pointed up to the top of the sky. Gordon Freeman looked up and said "NOO! Gertie Fremont run out of here as fast as you can!!" and Gertie Fremont walked real fast out.
Gertie Fremont loked back and watched Gordon get steppd on by G-Man and he was mad and angry.
"i'll get you back evil boss! Gertie Fremont yelled at the top of lungs

to be continued...?
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Let me get this straight. There are like 3 Half-Life games and many others set in the same universe like Portal and he would just in Episode 3 learn that the Xen have a Dyson Sphere?

He didn't ever overhear them (MGS-style) talk about how they could direct a small gamma ray burst to wipe out every living thing in the Solar System at a whim if they chose to? So I guess the better question is, why didn't they just do that?
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>>388355179
I'm just saying that if in order to achieve one law breaking tech, you need another law breaking tech, you are several orders of magnitude above of bullshitting.
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>>388355405
Look into fusion anon.
It's actually the next step of our nuclear technology, we've actually done it, but we use more energy to transmute elements than we get out of it.
But, if we don't care about how much energy we need to put in, yes, we can litetally make heavy elements out of hydrogen and helium. After all, that's how the universe was made in the first place.
>>388355638
Nothing lawbreaking about literal mirrors.
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>>388355805
>Look into fusion anon.
The irony...
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>>388327568

The point being, the borealis, the pinnacle of mankind's science, being weaponized was so insignificant to their force
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>>388355941
Well, I might be wrong anon, but isn't that how the universe came to be in the first place?
Hydrogen and Helium transmuted into heavier elements.
Fusion is what powers every star, so it stands to reason we should be able to recreate it, and as a matter of fact we have, but it's not efficient enough for energy production yet.
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>>388355805
>we can litetally make heavy elements out of hydrogen and helium

>how would you get the mass needed for the sphere
>you just get mass on top of mass
But where you get the fucking basic elements in the first place you dense dropout?
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>>388356171
That's I said 'sort of' in the initial post.
Finding hydrogen is easier than finding other materials.
Also, you could always pull them right out of the sun but I'm not familiar with that, I just heard it's theoretically possible and doesn't require any too exotic tech.
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>>388354319
>dyson sphere isn't impossible!
>except it is
>but these things that aren't a dyson sphere are totally possible!

Shut the fuck up idiot. We are talking about dyson spheres here, not the ability to harness a stars energy in other ways.
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>>388338594
>have hologram technology to generate an ENTIRE DYSON SPHERE
>waste it on a card game for children
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>>388329614
>that fucking laptop story

He probably ended up murdering his mother.
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>>388356519
So you agree with him, but decide to disagree on semantics... what a brilliant mind you mist have.
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>>388338594
>dyson sphere
>isn't a sphere
wew
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>They have ONE
>They couldn't possibly have more
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>>388356519
They're essentialy the same thing though.
A Dyson Swarm would eventually get so dense that it would resemble a sphere.
Also, a 'ball around the sun' Dyson is not impossible scientifically, only technologically and technology is evolving at very rapid rates.
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>>388356758
A Dyson sphere is the topic. Changing the entire concept into something that is neither a fucking sphere or Dyson is not semantics, it's changing the topic. Fucking moron
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>>388356891
The thing is Youmu, a Dyson Sphere can support untold quadrillions of population for millions of years.
Assuming FTL travel is impossible, there's no real reason to make more than 1, when you have the technology and energy to just make more artificial suns.
Stop being such a dork.
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>>388356893
>a 'ball around the sun' Dyson is not impossible scientifically
Yeah, only if you ignore the fact that for it to be possible there would be such convoluted amount of requirements that if someone sneezed around it would probably collapse at some point.
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>>388357195
Actually the only thing missing is a strong enoguh material and we have some decent leads on that.
But those same leads point us to the fact that any Dyson-style megastructure would start off as a Swarm first.
To make such materials we would require the immense energy provided by a Dyson Swarm in the first place.
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>>388357003
>the topic of the thread is about how poorly presented the hypothetical conclusion of episode 3 would be
Ah, you are right, I'm sorry.
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Hey /v/, wanna know why humanity isn't capable of building a Dyson Sphere yet?

Jews
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>>388357418
Change the goalposts all you want. You're still the loser
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>>388332914
>Would the engery required to make a dyson sphere even make it worth it?

Yes. There's no better known source of energy than a star. With that amount of energy you can do effectively anything. It's worth pointing out that virtually every sci-fi power, from the Empire in Star Wars to the Imperium of Man, has less energy at their disposal than a single Dyson sphere. They're really that good.

>Does the solar system even have enough matter to construct one?

Yep. Even dismantling Mercury would be enough. Plus you can just suck the matter you need directly out of the sun once you get enough infrastructure up.
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>>388356758
Damn you're a fucking idiot. We are talking about a dyson sphere, not the equivalent of a bunch of solar panels floating around a star. One is feasible and even possible, the other isn't. 2 completely different topics, not semantics at all dipshit.

>>388356893
>ball around the sun' Dyson is not impossible scientifically

It is. For a multitude of reasons. There is no known element or building material in the galaxy that could build a structure like that capable of supporting itself. We can't even build a space elevator for the same reasons.

>technology is evolving at very rapid rates

Not fast enough. Dyson spheres and FTL travel are things that are "theoretically" possible if we have some sort of major breakthrough that changes the laws of physics as we know them or some shit, but they are scientifically impossible as of now.
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>>388354273
>Revealing that the Combine have Dyson spheres just proves they are so advanced that invading earth and stealing their resources is pointless for them.
And revealing that america has nuclear power plants and strip mines proves that they're so advanced that gathering taxes from Joe Smith is pointless for them, right? No, because you send an IRS man and two police officers after him, not the entire US army, the net gain is still positive.
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>>388357581
>moves the goal post
>acusses someone of moving the goal post
>feels so attacked he has to call names on others to protect his ego
A truly brilliant mind, Da Vinci reborn.
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>>388357837
>moves the goal post

But you're the only one who did that dipshit. A dyson sphere is impossible. That fact remains and will not change.
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>>388357774
FTL might be, but Dyson Spheres are not.
You're making the assumption that a ball of such massive size would only be supported by itself.
It would most likely be a series of rings, with smaller hubs between them.
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>>388357774
>He doesn't even know who is disagreein with
Yeah... I must be a completely moron.


>>388357968
You truly are lost in semantics.

Leaving the threads as only high schoolers are left. God luck.
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>>388357182
>Assuming FTL travel is impossible
Conisdering how the portal gun works, FTL travel in canon.
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>>388358218
I had real world stuff in mind about the FTL thing.
Well, in the half-life universe anything could be possible, it is a videogame after all.
For all we know, a Goa'uld fleet could be competing with the Cylons over who gets to shoot at that Combine Dyson first.
post more Youmu, she's the cutest
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>>388358706
Youmu is the best 2hu
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>>388355271
>Well, you don't want the entire thing to collapse at the slightest asteroid impact.
Lmao what the fuck do you have any idea how a superstructure like that in space would work, go read a book
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>>388355271
Anyone with that kind of technology and power can easily track and destroy and incoming asteroids.
Anon, please use common sense.
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>>388358885
She's also my wife.
I would dump my Youmu folder, but I'm on my laptop on vacations and my eternal HDD literally just died.
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>>388354273
What if the ones that came through were Combine /out/fags goin innawoods?
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>>388358218
If the Combine cared so much about teleportation I think we can assume they either lack FTL or it kinda sucks.
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>>388358196
lol fucking pathetic, running away instead of facing the truth
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>>388360075
The intergalactic distances are pretty retarded even with FTL.
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>>388340575
Like there's a difference.
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>>388327568
>he can't comprehend the level of technology, manpower, effort, material and stellar engineering required to construct such a thing

The fact that we will never experience the pure kino hopelessness of the Borealis materialising next to the Combine's Dyson sphere makes me rabid with anger. It would have been the peak moment of gaming as a serious form of media.
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The point of the fusion Sheree is to showcase pure magnitude. The sphere isn't the size of a planet it's the size of a star.

If you can't understand "whoops our plan to blow up their home planet no lounge makes any sense at all, this won't even touch one millionth of their surface area" then you're honestly too stupid to live
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>>388336647
>use Borealis time-travel kit
>go back in time to Black Mesa
>make sure Gordon doesn't start resonance cascade
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>>388361579
Are we working on Multiverse theory, cause if so, you wouldn't change a damn thing
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>>388337317
That seems to be the point, which is a lot more interesting in some ways than a "good guys win lol" asspull.
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>>388329685

> can go to hyper-speed

You are right, it's better.
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>>388354273
>that invading earth and stealing their resources is pointless for them

Earth has super-efficient portal/FUCKING TIME TRAVEL technology in the Borealis which the Combine do not have, they have extremely inefficient portal technology and no time travel. If they blow up earth then they destroy the chance to harness this technology.

Honest to fuck I genuinely wonder how some of you retards manage to breathe and type at the same time.
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>>388361074
I can comprehend it's just not that big of deal in terms of sci-fi shit.
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>>388362164
Then why didn't they invade with real forces/barter for it/ask for it?
The fact that you think this shitty plot makes any sense at all means you're the retard here.
>"T-They had to invade to get super special portal tech!"
>"b-but they only left some shitty cyborg humans to defend everything because uh just because!"
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>>388361709
Nigga I don't know, can we switch universes or are we unable to cross between them?

I just think with the revelation that the Borealis can travel in time means that there was a timetravel asspull coming in whatever was planned after this.
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>>388362496
The combine came to stop a super intelligent species from growing into a threat
The combine on Earth were then cut off from contacting the homeworld
The combine on Earth then found the Borealis, and attempted to phone home using the C17 generator explosion
Freeman stopped this
If you played the games and have an IQ above room temperature, you'd know the plot
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>>388335303
CMON GORDY
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>>388362496
They did and crushed us in 7 hours, then had to use their slow portal tech to try and bring the big guns back before getting their shit pushed in by Gertrude Freudman. Maybe they're fighting on other fronts, maybe the gman is involved, maybe they were too arrogant to see a chink in their armour and didn't feel the need to use anything other than local troops.
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>>388362496
Except they did just fine that way, they conquered the whole fucking planet in 7 hours. Not until the resistance started gathering did things stop going according to plan, but even then all we actually saw was one war in one city in the whole world, they may very well have everywhere else under control and or completely murdered.

As the Episode 3 plot makes it sound the only reason they didn't still get the Borealis is purely because of Gordon, which was only there because of G-Man. It can be assumed that Combine plan was pretty tight, they just weren't prepared for whatever the G-Man and benefactors had going on behind the scenes.
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>>388363012
>>388363102
>bending over backwards to defend shitty plot
If they can build dyson sphere they should've been able to steam roll Earth and get the tech in an hour.
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>>388327568
>Yeah so what if they built a megastructure around an entire star and since this shit wasn't good enough for them they go off tunneling into other realities to expand their multidimensional empire of fucking people in the ass, does that REALLY make them powerful?
Yeah
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>>388363269
The Borealis is phasing in and out of time and space, it's not just sitting on the ice. It is entirely possible that they can't capture it if they don't have good portal tech (they don't) and they don't have timetravel (they don't).

They could BTFO earth in no time but that doesn't mean they could do that and leave with whatever is in the Borealis at the same time.
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>>388338026
>read Ender's Game as a kid
>o cool a story about humanity's fight against evil aliens
>read Ender's Game as an adult
>o fuck a story about the traumatic experiences of child soldiers
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>>388361074
>It would have been the peak moment of gaming as a serious form of media.

I hope you're not stupid enough to actually believe that.
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>>388331729
>But it CAN contain planets too if it's as big as a solar system.
Lol maybe if the "solar system" contained at most one planet. Any system of comparable size to ours would not have the matter to encompass it.
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>>388331941
My nigga.
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>>388363847
I hope you read the rest of the series. Fucking god tier. Even the parallel stories (following Bean) are amazing.
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>>388364557
>read enders game
>nice
>decide to read other books in the series
>wtf is this i didn't sign up for this
>portuguese aliens
>computer earring waifu
>nah fuck you im out
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>>388327568
WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE CARE ABOUT DYSON SO MUCH ITS A FUCKING VACUUM WITH A BALL WOW FUCKING GREAT
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The Borealis in Portal 2 and Episode 3 would've had different stories.
In Portal 2 the Borealis is nearly 4000m below the surface in the 1970's area of Aperture Science.
In Episode 3 the Borealis teleported away as the Combine surrounded it from land, sea and air.

Conclusion:
Portal and Portal 2 take place in a divergent timeline, one which diverges before the Combine invasion.
Considering that GLaDOS jokes about Chell's prospects of working at Black Mesa it's likely that Black Mesa is still around in this timeline (the line could also be taken to imply that Black Mesa is still destroyed, but then the joke makes a less sense)
Therefore, Half-Life 3 may have been about Gordon travelling through time to prevent the resonance cascade that lead to the Combine invasion.
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>>388364557
The Speaker series was utter tripe. I deeply regret reading them all. You should be ashamed of yourself for promoting them.

>>388365118
Fucking this.
The Bean series was cool though.
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>>388361709
If we were working on multiverse theory, wouldn't the Combine just choose a universe where they can actually nab the tech they want?
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>>388365624
Agreed, I liked Bean's entire story. Ender's siblings annoyed me to no end. They're fucking weird ass psychopaths.
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>>388339967
>dyson sphewes
how hard is it to learn god damn english
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>>388365910
He has a speech impediment you faggot
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>>388350153
i dont get it
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>>388365118
I liked Speaker for the Dead. It really took a downturn after that though.
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>>388338125
>watts a second
>joules per second a second
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>>388365986
Keep talking shit and you're about to have a dick impediment my niggy
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>>388354107
>>virtually impossible [for us to create at this point in time]
epic shitpost anon
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>>388365486
This makes sense, but after Episode 3, that HL3 story would be kinda disappointing.
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>>388329074
It must be greed. People seem to forget the combine were draining our oceans as well, and recruiting humans for a fighting force they were going to keep.
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>>388350153
I mean, I guess. But one would think with dimensional portal tech, they'd have realized how to make intradimensional portal tech to at least some degree.
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>>388365986
Gene Simmons had one too (he's a kike) but he still learned god damn english without a yiddish or hebrew accent
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>>388340575
Also the First Order was created by a black woman.

Who was also one of the 7 Grand Admirals in the Imperial Navy.
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>>388365118
Keep going... None of these are problems.
>earring waifu
Wow, somehow worse than your 2-D waifu who doesn't interact with you?
Keep going you fucking fuck. Why do you have such shit taste?
All great books have weak points.
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>>388343456
>However that can't happen because solar panels are expensive as fuck so only rich people can afford them.
I hate it
>company comes out in my state that actually has affordable solar panels
>it's a co-operative system, where essentially you're renting the solar panels at a low cost
>don't really remember the specifics, so it could be different, but the panels were actually affordable
>the jews running my state's power company sued them out of business and took over, making the panels expensive
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>>388366494
>inserting some weird waifu shit in an otherwise okay response
thanks for the laugh anon, and ill try to get back into the series
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>>388361846
Are you fucking retarded or something dude you're comparing Oranges to Tennis balls here. Like seriously do you even know what the fuck you're talking about when you type out your posts?
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>>388333551
>>388349860

'Cause some people are literally jumping from "Combine has one Dyson sphere" to "Combine must have trillions of Dyson spheres in billions of galaxies and ultimate control of every universe and dimension and they are omnipotent". The thing in OP is not a strawman, it's an actual claim idiots have been making since the story leaked, both in /v/ and on other boards. To put this in real world terms, it's like they saw a helicopter and jumped immediately to the conclusion that whoever owns the helicopter must control Earth because he can reach every part of it.

Basically Combine is a type 2-and-change civilization (total harnessing of their own star's energy and spreading to other stars), and some people immediately, based on nothing but their own imagination and extreme making shit up, wanked them to a type 5 civ (total harnessing of all energy in all universes). Which is just nonsense and based on nothing. The point of the ending was that Gerald Frohman despairs because a Dyson sphere is too big to blow up or fight, even with all of Earth's resources combined. He's not despairing because the Combine is suddenly God now. That's something you fuckers made up on your own and is not supported by the story; in other words, wank.
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>>388357682
>There's no better known source of energy than a star
True, but a Star is just fusion. A civilization advanced enough to construct a dyson sphere can just built fusion power plants everywhere.

But I suppose one could also built what amounts to one of those weird hollow earth type worlds just because.
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>>388367232
>helicopters = dyson spheres
opinion discarded
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Guys, the ending of the leak fits perfectly like HL2 lost coast.

this anon said it best. Just watch and judge it yourselves.

>not recognizing you at first
>church with glass portrait of freeman implying time has passed
>saying your fuzzing away, like, teleporting or dissapearing through time?

its been in our faces the entire time anons
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>>388367451

A helicopter is something you, the person reading this, can never own. Not ever in your life. They're simply too expensive. But owning a helicopter doesn't suddenly mean you own Earth. It just means that you own a helicopter, and had money far beyond what normal people have.
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>>388367657
The combine owning dyson spheres = they own a literal fuckton comes from that dyson spheres are literally out of humanity's grasp at this point in time. Given that a dyson sphere is hilariously demanding of resources, currency, and time, it's assumed that a civilization that can pull of even one could most likely end up pulling off many others shortly after.
A helicopter being fucking expensive for the average person does not make it a dyson sphere you false equivalencing retard.
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>>388367657
Oh yeah that's right, I forgot how buying and owning one helicopter makes it exponentially easier to buy and own more helicopters.
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>>388368061
thank you for just making it obvious (you)'re baiting
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>>388368279
Not really. A dyson sphere gives you the power to move to other stars and with the resources you now have, it's much easier to make another one. But yeah helicopters and bait I guess
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>>388368420
You can do all that with normal fusion plants. It's even easier to do any of that with ordinary cold fusion.

Having unlimited dyson power is well and good, but how do you get that to the construction site of the next sphere? Lay a power cable through space?

You could use a dyson sphere as some sort of main base and refueling station. But with speed limit enforced by Einstein, that serves no real purpose. If necessary, a bunch of fusion plants duct taped together sate all your needs.
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>>388369338
>normal fusion plants
>can't think at cosmic scales

t. brainlet
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>>388369338
How did you type an entire irrelevant post without realizing it? I'm the guy saying dyson spheres aren't in any way equatable to fucking helicopters.
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>>388369673
>If you have a dyson sphere it's much easier to make another one.

How?

>>388369516
How do you power the cosmic scale space fleet that constructs your dyson sphere?
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>>388370479
>How?
Sorry, if you can't figure this out from the basic definition of a dyson sphere, then I'm afraid I simply don't have the words to explain it to you.
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>>388370946
How do you get the energy from one dyson sphere to the construction site of the other?

How does a dyson sphere allow you to gather, process and send resources to the construction site?

How does a dyson sphere allow you to travel the vast distances between stars with enough of a workforce to built a second sphere?

What makes a dyson sphere more efficient than using a bunch of fusion power plants?

I swear, sci-fi alchemists are the worst.
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>>388371505
>how does something that gives you energy and matter help with a project that requires energy and matter
HOW. FUCKING. STUPID. CAN. YOU. GET.
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>>388371505
>what makes a dyson sphere efficient
What the fuck am i reading
>how do you use energy
i dont fucking know magic i guess
>how come you can't ride a dyson sphere into the next star system
This is some of the best bait I've ever read.
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>>388327568
>PLOPOGANDOLA'S USELESS
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>>388371624
>FREE ENERGY
You have that once you master fusion and space travel.

>FREE MATTER
If you can turn pure energy into matter, then you can turn your virtually unlimited fusion power into matter.
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>>388327568
But could the combine beat Alucard?
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>>388371760
Look, a dyson sphere gets its energy from the star inside. The star inside does fusion. If you can built a power plant that does fusion, you don't need a dyson sphere.
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>>388367232
This tbqh.
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>>388372170
What was the point of this post? Stop babbling and say something already.
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>>388372476
I've got a maglight with some D batteries in it, does that render the sun obsolete?
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>>388372476
Why would you do that when you have a star right there pooping out free energy?
Also, a Dyson Sphere isn't something you just crap out in an afternoon, it will probably take thousand of years for a small Dyson Swarm to evolve into a Sphere.
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>>388338806

>Also It was said that one of the main reasons Valve removed developers from HL3 in recent years is because of the hate ME3 got for not living up to the expectations. S

>Also it was said

Who and where? Source?

And this sounds beyond fucking retarded.

>Some company does a shitty job at creating a final ending for a videogame thus it caused another company to pussy out entirely of a completely separate piece of work not related whatsoever to the former outside that they are both science fiction.

What type of fucking logic is this?
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>>388372476
>whats a dyson sphere
>how does it work
>its like a helicopter
>how do you utilize it HAHA REACTORS BRO
Why is it that every post from you is addressing something off topic? What information, exactly, are you looking for from me? Because every time I respond, you just give me another non-sequitur and its getting annoying.
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>>388372303
there is only one being who can defeat the combine.
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>>388372602
The point is that there is no point to a dyson sphere.
It's sci-fi alchemy.
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>>388329049
>you have all of the energy and fuel you could ever want
>you'll get to the point where you want more
pick one
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>>388371624
>calling someone stupid
>has no grasp of cosmic distances

Transmitting the energy would be a feat that might even harder than building the damn sphere in the first place. What medium are you going to use? Big vats of plasma? An enormously energetic beam of radiation? A fucking power cord?

Either, you need to pull ever larger amounts of material out of vacuum that'll dwarf the initial system by some orders of magnitude, or you've created a death ray the likes of which are usually limited to quasars.

This poses another issue. How the fuck are you supposed to receive that energy? Build a big port to plug your interstellar batteries and/or power cord into. Or maybe a big catcher's mitt to absorb the electromagnetic equivalent of an anniannihilation ray capable of turning planets to dust.

At a certain point, it would almost be easier to just drag other stars closer and manipulate them into intricate multi-star systems or collide them to a supermassive state until they collapse into other neat energy-emitting bodies.
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>>388372906
wtf are you on about anon.
A Dyson Sphere is basically the ultimate form of photovoltaics.
And you don't just make one, you get there slowly.
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>>388373115
Kugelblitz black holes.
Scientifically possible, technologically not so much yet, but still something that a civilisation with that level of technology should be able to make.
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>>388372906
What conversation do you think we're having? You keep jumping around to topics no one is discussing.
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>>388373115
>calling someone else stupid
>and then go on to refute points they never made
Stop samefagging you retard.
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>>388372705
No, but cold fusion makes solar panels obsolete.

>>388372798
Because a dyson sphere is a huge waste. To built one you need to power your industry with something. That something is fusion power, which already gives you virtually unlimited energy. Rendering the main draw of the sphere moot.

>>388372865
You're not good at technical stuff, mate. What I'm asking you is what the practical application of a dyson sphere is when fusion technology is available.
Your answer is free energy. But fusion already provides that.

Here's another thing. A bunch of power plants that can be regulated and switched on and off individually is way more useful than a dyson sphere even in terms of power generation. A dyson sphere captures all the energy of a star, right? Well, that means your system needs to use all that energy or it's getting heated up/overloaded. Space is mostly vacuum, so heat dissipation does not work very well.
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>>388373427
>How do you get the energy from one dyson sphere to the construction site of the other?

I would recommend you stop eating paint chips if you intend to hold onto what little cognitive function remains in your primarily empty skull.
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>>388373829
You could have segments of dyson sphere rotate to allow light to escape I guess.
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>>388327568
Dysen spheres generate a lot of power nigga
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>>388373837
I never said anything about that. Which is why you're an idiot for trying to refute points that were never made. Seriously educate yourself before you try to start an argument over literally nothing.
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>>388373115
>it would almost be easier to just drag other stars closer and manipulate them into intricate multi-star systems
So, uh, where you gonna get all the energy to do that?

I just ask because there's this star we've got right here and, well, we could build a swarm of solar-cell satellites around it like some sort of sphere.
Then we take all that energy and use a huge microwave laser array to beam to a collector on a torchship gravity tractor to power its way at near C across those interstellar distances and drag those stars back for your weird landscaping project.
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>>388373829
Nigger, we were never discussing the practicality of dyson spheres. Not fucking once. Again, what the fuck conversation do you think we're having right now? Are you replying to the right person?
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>>388373278
I'm not even going to begin speculating on what a Kardashev 2 civ could, would, or might want to achieve. I'm only calling out a peabrained moron who didn't even stop to consider that stars are far apart and getting energy/matter from one to another is difficult.
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>>388373115
Moving stars around is a pretty big jump up from making dyson spheres.
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>>388373829
>Because a dyson sphere is a huge waste. To built one you need to power your industry with something. That something is fusion power, which already gives you virtually unlimited energy. Rendering the main draw of the sphere moot.
Just going to butt in by saying you seem to think a Dyson Sphere can only be turned on when it's complete, protip, you can start the energy collecting from the very first panel you build, from there on you use that same energy from that one panel to build a second one, it's exponential.
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>>388373310
I don't know what you're on about. I was talking to somebody saying that a dyson sphere helps in building another one. Which isn't true, since dyson spheres are unwieldy, impractical and ineffiecient wastes of resources.

See this guy >>388373115
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>>388374192
Except the person you called out never mentioned that at all.
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>>388374312
>I was talking to some other guy
It's still me and we still were never discussing that. Follow your own goddamn thread.
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>>388368420
Your post
>>388369338
My first post in this thread.

Not every Anon is the same Anon, Anon.
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>>388373829
>No, but cold fusion makes solar panels obsolete.
Yes because I'm sure we've got enough fuel to power said cold fusion enough to put out seventy billion gigawatts for the next ten billion years straight. Also, why cold fusion?

Man made fusion, at any temperature, will probably be great and all but all the fusion fuel in the solar system doesn't compare to that one solar mass ball of fire we've got right there just waiting to be tapped, and that thing'll keep burning for billions of years of uninterrupted unrefueled time.
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>>388374036
It was the post being replied to, of which I will again repeat the quotation:
>How do you get the energy from one dyson sphere to the construction site of the other?

Though, I see now that you probably don't even bother to read posts before you reply to them. I get the impression that you are rather like a parrot, imitating an ingrained response without the faintest inkling of it's content. I am appalled that your mother chose to drink so much during pregnancy and still elected to carry you to term.
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>>388374642
I don't care who you are or when you first posted. What you replied with had absolutely nothing to do with what I said. You pulled examples of dumb shit out of your ass and then started an entire thread arguing with me about shit I never said. Just fuck off you retard.
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>>388374687
One advantage of fusion is building a dyson sphere could attract unwanted attention from intelligent life since you're basically dimming your star or turning it off.
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>>388374804
Jesus Christ. I can't do this anymore at all. Keep believing you're debating a topic with me when I never participated. I'm sure you're a very intelligent young man.
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>>388374937
This. We are not that advanced and we've already caught sight of a possible (maybe not) dyson swarm. ie, tabby's star.
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>>388374687
Come on, if you can surround the star in some kind of super material, you can send a few space ships to catch some gas clouds floating in space.

True, the mass of our star is greater than the rest of the mass in our solar system, but that's why you can actually take fusion plants with you as shipboard generators.

>why cold fusion?
It's more practical, I believe.

>>388374804
Don't be mean to his mom. Some kids just like sniffing glue.
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>>388374074
Fuck if I know. This whole topic is pretty much fantasy considering the difference in tech levels of 21st century humanity and anyone who can build a dyson sphere is a bigger span than lies between ourselves and the dog sitting next to me right now.

Perhaps they discover a mechanism for temporarily magnifying the effects of gravity in certain interactions with an, as of yet, undiscovered particle. Maybe they would be operating on an entirely different understanding of physics. But I'm just suggesting that, based on our current knowledge of how energy and matter interacts, the hardest part is gonna be using that energy for anything involving interstellar projects (which is, I assume, what a Kardashev 2 civ would be going for).
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