Why is TES lore so fucking weird? I just found out some guy

citation needed

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Sounds like Vivec, was it Vivec?

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>>388288742

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>muh lore!
It's to cover up the shitty gameplay. Apparently people actually play TES "for the lore". Like, hate this webm all you want, people actually do that. They fucking PLAY A GAME just to READ THE BOOKS IN THE GAME.

>>388288851
Could be Reman he fucks almost as much as Vivec.

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>>388288882
>Bethesda
>canon

>>388288959
Nothing's wrong with that.

>>388288779
>And it was in this darkness that King Hrol set out from the lands beyond lost Twil with a sortie of questing knights numbered eighteen less one, all of them western sons and daughters. For Hrol had seen in his visions the snakes to come and sought to heal all the borders of his forebears. And to this host appeared at last a spirit who resembled none other than El-Estia, queen of ancient times, who bore in her left hand the dragonfire of the aka-tosh and in her right hand the jewels of the covenant and on her breast a wound that spilt void onto her mangled feet. And seeing El-Estia and Chim-el Adabal, Hrol and his knights wailed and set to their knees and prayed for all things to become as right. Unto them the spirit said, I am the healer of all men and the mother of dragons, but as you have run so many times from me so shall I run until you learn my pain, which renders you and all this land dead.
>And the spirit fled from them, and they split among hills and forests to find her, all grieving that they had become a villainous people. Hrol and his shieldthane were the only ones to find her, and the king spoke to her, saying, I love you sweet Aless, sweet wife of Shor and of Auri-el and the Sacred Bull, and would render this land alive again, not through pain but through a return to the dragon-fires of covenant, to join east and west and throw off all ruin. And the shieldthane bore witness to the spirit opening naked to his king, carving on a nearby rock the words AND HROL DID LOVE UNTO A HILLOCK before dying in the sight of their union.

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>>388289050
Why go through all this to read a poorly written short story when you could just read them all in an hour or two on UESP?

>>388289050
But then you're liking what I don't like WHICH I DON'T LIKE

>>388288959
>attacking without any armor
>without dodging
>with depleted fatigue
>and a weapon he's probably not proficient with
No shit the retard died. Even if you set things up decently a new player is going to have life and death struggles with Scribs when you first step out of Seyda Neen.

>>388289156
>When the fifteen other knights found King Hrol, they saw him dead after his labors against a mound of mud. And they parted each in their way, and some went mad, and the two that returned to their homeland beyond Twil would say nothing of Hrol, and acted ashamed for him.
>But after nine months that mound of mud became as a small mountain, and there were whispers among the shepherds and bulls. A small community of believers gathered around that growing hill during the days of its first churning, and they were the first to name it the Golden Hill, Sancre Tor. And it was the shepherdess Sed-Yenna who dared climb the hill when she heard his first cry, and at its peak she saw what it had yielded, an infant she named Reman, which is "Light of Man."
>And in the child's forehead was the Chim-el Adabal, alive with the dragon-fires of yore and divine promise, and none dared obstruct Sed-Yenna when she climbed the steps of White-Gold Tower to place the babe Reman on his Throne, where he spoke as an adult, saying I AM CYRODIIL COME.

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>>388289274
Just give up, kid.

It's mythology, it's just how it works.
You know Aphrodite the Greek goddess of love? She was born from the sea foam after Uranus' severed genitals were thrown into the ocean.
It just works.

>>388289417
>fighting a character 10 levels higher than you
>still not dodging

>>388289417
>fighting a character way higher level than you and getting your ass beat
>no idea what rpg lvl/skill checks are

You are even more retarded than a new-age casual.

>>388288959
People will come up with excuses for this but the same thing happened to me in Mournhold with that Bosmer or whatever that asks you for money, then comes back later in full gear and randomly attacks you. I had like 75 weapon skill, full stamina, etc. and still never hit him once before he killed me. Looked it up and they gave him max luck and whatever else and said he's basically nearly impossible to hit because of that. Kind of lame. I know I can always come back later with magic or whatever to beat him but it's not really that fun.

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Because Michael Kirkbride was tasked wirh making a religion for a video game but ended up making a metaphysical masterwork that's deeper than most religions today.
the ending of the world is almsivi

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>>388289417
>>388289184
>someone spend time making this
>someone may actually be this retarded

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>>388290932

>>388290182
All he did was snort cock and weave some lesser known elements from Buddhism, Gnosticism and Christianity, though. And while more elaborate than what most other games have, it's not really """deep""", it barely scratches the surface of the metaphysics involving any of those theologies.

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>>388289230
and that means......

>>388288882
So, what you're saying is.. ESO which references Towers and Amaranths and Dreams is canon.. and Skyrim which references Kalpas is canon?
Sounds good to me. c0da doesn't even matter since that's a deleted timeline.

>>388291657
>references
loving every laugh

>>388288851
Think it is one of the Reman emperors.

>>388289034
Ever read Elantris? Could be that ghouls feel the need to eat, but don't have to.

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>>388288742
Did you get to the part where you realize the stars in the night sky are tears in the fabric of reality and that the dragonborn in skyrim is Alduin's other personality?

Oh and the hero of Kvatch becomes Sheogorath. And the dragon priests are capable of some crazy shit. There's a lot of neat stuff that's hidden in the books if you read them.

>>388288742
> Yo niga lore so deep cuz yo it's like he knows that he isn't like in a world but in a computer game, so get this this nigga can just like think about something and shieeeet there's mountains and shit. Yo know those Dark elves are our brothers and shit homie, that's what up playboy! Morrowind? That shit gave me a PHD, pretty hard dick y'nom what im sayin, it so smart and shit I read books nigga

Its really not, you've just never read any mythology.

>>388291713
They literally say the words though. Paarthunax talks about Kalpas, and a scholar in ESO speaks on how the White Gold Tower holds the world together. Which.. it does. Then you've got that quest involving Hermaeus Mora and a Dremora fighting over a water stone. Plus the Black Books in Skyrim...
>>388291821
Authenticity, my friend. That's what I like about the religions in elder scrolls. They're fucking weird, and have a lot of weird sex.

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>>388291939
Yeah, and I wasn't commenting on it being bland or bad, I love the lore in Elder Scrolls and its honesty probably my favorite for the reasons you stated. Most people filter out the odd shit in mythology that makes us uncomfortable, but Elder Scrolls, mainly thanks to MK, doubles down on that shit.

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>>388289281
>>388289156
This was probably written after the author read about that anon with the Ohio fetish

>>388292309
I adore how unapologetically weird it is.

>>388291732
Wait what

>>388292667
Also, Pelinal Whitestrake was a robot from the future, Queen Ayrenn from ESO is also a robot from the future, Vivec is a hermaphrodite from a robot crab monster hermaphrodite mother, and Khajiit worship a giant ball of fur called The Mane. He's a khajiit that has so much fur that he becomes a third moon, and his earthly form is given all the moon sugar and sex he could handle.

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>>388289417
If some random clerk in town is that strong why didnt he save the world instead?

>>388291732
their tears to oblivion. not really reality itself necesarily.
alduin is a subset of AKA as is DB. they're both alt personalities.

>>388292309
Is Nerevar okay?

>>388292890
Because he isn't chosen by faith.
>>388292946
He's dead Jim. They cut off his face, feet, and junk. Ded. Until you become him.

>>388292890
because he can't pass the 1st-7th trials to unite the dunmer, become immortal, etc.

>>388289417
This footage is manipulated. If I remember correctly, due to the individual's stats, stamina, etc, the hit chance came out to 74-79% or something. The chances of that person missing every single swing was astronomically low. The only explanation is they modified the NPCs stats to make this misleading video.

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>>388291731
>living things don't need to eat

Ghouls are both living and dead. They need the radiation that is killing them because it also binds their anatomy together. Their human remains require food and water to continue living.

Next time don't try to brush away discussions with your flimsy shoulder-shrug fantasy bullshit. That is typical Bethesda behavior. Fallout is a sci-fi series and the answers to questions demand logical explanations.

Dagoth Ur was right

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>>388288742
>reading weird shitty lore by the guy who was fired for writing weird shitty lore and then had his work retconned out of the series
>and then complaining about weird shitty lore

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>>388293597
>Fallout 1
>the water supply for Necropolis is a major plot point because the ghouls still need to drink

>Fallout 4
>Kid lives in a fridge for 200 years

Fuck Bethesda.

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>>388289417
>>388289184
>>388288959
To be honest, even though I played Morrowind myself when I was younger, it becomes harder and harder to recommend actually playing it to anyone as the years go by. I'd recommend just watching a Let's Play but considering how much of the game's enjoyment is in reading dialog and books to figure out the lore it seems pretty pointless. At this point, I really do think just reading all about it in the UESP is the best option.

>>388294248
do have the tweet where good ol pete calls the a guy a fucking nerd?

>>388288882
It's the only true canon, and Bethesda's published works are the fanfiction.

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>>388294295
Just started my first playthrough with modded graphics + bugfixes and I haven't had this much fun with a game in a long time. The atmosphere, world building, immersion, lore and characters are all fantastic and it really does feel like a fully realised universe. Even the gameplay feels fresh since you have so many options to approach problems the way you want, it's crazy. The whole game feels like a mad fever dream adventure at times, I fucking love it. Makes one wonder what went so horribly wrong with Oblivion and Skyrim for them to turn out so bland and generic.

>>388295342
Care to share your mods? any extra configs?

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Because it's fun.

>>388288742
>lore
That's fanfic

>>388292309
I love how that pic has a bunch of symbolism that's tied to ingame mechanics.

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>>388295645

>>388295645
UNMAKE
REALITY

>>388295717
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l83vT2svg3g

>>388295704
WHAT

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>>388295592
https://pastebin.com/7gF2VLaf

I followed this guide, it's pretty extensive when it comes to graphics and maintaining the vanilla feel of the game. Took me a day of modding but it was worth it, great stuff.

A word of warning though, the Morrowind engine is really dated so don't expect stellar performance with modded MW. My FPS fluctuates between 30-60 while in towns but I can live with it.

Anon...
Removal of the face = The Nerevarine can be anyone (Any race)
Removal of the feet = The Nerevarine can walk any path (Any class)
Vivec impaling him with his thick veiny Muatra = Nerevarine can be any gender

>>388294295
>To be honest, even though I played Morrowind myself when I was younger, it becomes harder and harder to recommend actually playing it to anyone as the years go by.

Wrong, but whatever.

>I'd recommend just watching a Let's Play

Oh you're a fucking moron

>>388296060
Forgot it was to him >>388295909

>>388295342
I just don't find the core gameplay all that fun. It's hovering at an awkward point between the hack-and-slash-esque action of the later games and the isometric crpg's with diceroll mechanics that came before it and it just "feels" bad to play now for me. If it had gone one way or another all the way I think it would have aged much better. The Gothic series did something similar at the same time Morrowind did and I honestly think it aged MUCH better.

>>388296060
Oh. That's really lame.
Do you know who the second corpse is?

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>>388296091
>I played Morrowind myself when I was younger
>WRONG

>>388295982
I tried that guide and felt it was too plain at the end.
I ended up having to supplement it with knots' guide so the swamp felt like a swamp and not like a wasteland.

>>388296146
It's Dagoth Ur.

>>388288742
Lore wise, Argonians are the best race.

>>388293597
>fictional living things don't need to eat

While I agree that Bethesda went full retard with ghoul nutrition, complaining about the dietary needs of fictional creatures is pretty dumb. I mean, Superman states several times in several comics that he doesn't really need to eat food, that he does so out of the familiar experience of doing so when he was growing up.

>>388297079
And he can eat the sun and become god, superman is american propaganda, hedgehog and porcupine tier.

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>>388296771
I'm really into the Khajiit.

>Dude TES lore is so WEIRD
>Dude it's so DEEP
>SO DEEP IN WEIRD

It's just medieval high-fantasy in the games though? And nothing of what you are talking about is actually shown or discussed in the games outside of ingame books?

are you guys just LARPing?

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>>388289034
>fallout 1&2
>mankind starts to go tribal without the market industries working to maintain and improve technology

>fallout bathesda:
>technology advances so much after a nuclear apocalypse that a group of a dozen scientists start to manufacture androids; people live like barbarians for nor reason

>>388292946
Murdered, then mutilated to be unidentifiable. The feet are removed to lower the likelihood of his body being nercomancer'd to become a tomb guardian, and if it is, being unable to leave his tomb to see vengeance.

Because it's just Hinduism but with an autistic drug addicted white guy's OC DONUT STEEL characters.

>>388297927
that's what make your own story RPGs are about dude.

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>>388298275
Fuck up rajeed.

>>388298335

Nice cop-out.

>>388296771
>Lizard Tyranid
>best

>>388288779
>citation needed
And I thought /v/ couldn't get any more worse.

>>388289156
>http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tes3Mod:Tamriel_Rebuilt/Remanada
huh

How is my build? I tried to build a mage assassin type class.

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>>388300780
forgot to upload pic

Where did the numidium go?

I'd fug an argonian.

>>388295342
Man Morrowind is so good. The main quest shits all over anything Bethesda has done since and Dagoth Ur is a great villain.

>>388294295
I honestly don't know why you feel this way dude. I played through vanilla again last year and it is still a thoroughly enjoyable experience. It's insane how many people cry about the combat gameplay yet its fine as long as you specialise for the first few levels. People are just used to shitty handholding gameplay and instant gratification in the newer schizophrenic bethesda titles

>>388298941
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/An-Xileel_Daedric_resistance
> The Argonian forces apparently managed to flood into Oblivion itself, fighting and winning against the Daedra on their own turf. The Dremora lieutenants were forced to close their own Gates to prevent being overrun, something unheard of anywhere else.