>Shitty 3D remake >$40 Look at those texture seams. This

>>388260507
Thanks for the share anon
I'll be buying it now

>$40 for a rom
who do they think they are, nintendo?

>actual remake

noice

>>388260507
>remaking a 2D SNES game
When will they learn?

>>388260507
It looks like a cheap phone game.
I never played or even seen the original but I suspect it looks better than this.

>>388260507
>$40 for digital data
wtf i hate secret of mana now

I think the 3D graphics look cute. Strange that its not on the 3DS too considering the graphics, but I play on PC anyways so this is still neat.
>online coop
But how will I find people to play it with me?

>>388260507
Looks interesting, I'll keep my eye on it and see if SE doesn't screw it up.

>>388260886
>>388260858
>>388260507
>>388260690
>>388260742
>bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch
Sperg autists who hate for the sake of hate. It's a real pity you guys can't afford games... It's whatever. I pre-ordered the moment the page appeared on Steam.

This depresses me to no end.

>>388260507
>Look at those texture seams.
like you could do any better,

>>388260507
FORTY DOLLARS!
You gotta be fucking kidding me, the crappy 3D/mobile gaming textures are the biggest reason I refuse to touch any of the final fantasy games. I would have bought it if it had been a simple port of the SNES game.

Are they gonna fix the buggy as fuck combat?

>>388261051
I'll pre-order the day before release. No reason to this early.

>>388261191
You would have bought a simple, lazy port of an easily emulated game?

>>388261191
If it was a simple port of the SNES game you would personally be saying that it's just a ROM and not worth paying for.

I always prefer the sprite interpretation in these kind of remakes. It's one of my most nostalgic games though so if they add something worthwhile (the 1/3 supposedly cut for instance) I'll pirate.

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Yeah. This part looks a bit shitty.

>40 dollar
>phone game assets
>still has costume DLC
another day, another modern game scam

>>388260507
I don't get why it's not a 3DS exclusive, it looks exactly the same as handheld Final Fantasy remakes.

>>388261351
That looks pretty though
>>388261369
>>388261191
>mobile gaming textures
>phone game assets
This isn't on mobile phones though

>>388261313
Yes, I would have paid five dollarydoos for simple updated port of the SNES version.

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>>388261351
>tiny arena
>characters are now huge in comparison

>>388261351
This tiger turned boys into men.

>>388261351
if the good parts look like shit I'm really not eager to see the badly designed areas and shitty bosses (like the big retarded bird with long legs)

>Final Fantasy Adventure remake
>14$
>Secret of Mana remake
>40$
And it's still obviously using the Adventures of Mana visuals.
What the fuck.

>>388260742
looks like absolute ass tho

>>388260507
I'd like it a lot more if it had orthographic camera.

>FORTY DOLLARY DOOS

That's way too much.

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>>388260507
HOLY FUCK IT'S REAL

This was one of my all time favorite games growing up, playing co-op with my brother was one of my favorite memories of my entire life

Thank you for posting this, buying this for sure.

>>388261351
>that black abyss background
>those oddly scaled character models with no shadows
t-they have time to fix this, right?

>salty bitches about no shitch
Lmaos

>>388261465
Well, thanks for being the type of person that supports the terrible remaster industry.

>>388261661
The remaster industry is great
Its just like the DVD/Bluray industry in re-releases.

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>>388261661
No thank you anon.

>>388261436

Doesn't even look as good as the original.
That's about as depressing as it gets.

>>388261465
You can do it already on android, it costs 10 bucks.

>>388261351

I could tolerate this if it weren't for that black void of nothingness.

If it was Legend of Mana remake I would have bought it in a heartbeat.

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>>388260507
This is PERFECT, I loved this game as a kid, me and my girlfriend are huge fans of the series and have been looking for a new couch co-op game to play

Thanks OP!

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It doesn't even look close as pretty as Egglia which is a fucking mobile game!

>>388260507
2k17

>>388262003
Fuck off, normalfag.

>>388261351
Holy shit, good lord

good thing there's a mini map

>>388262013
>large round buttons to touch
>dull washed out colors
Egglia looks a lot worse

It's looks like the DS remakes of the FF games but it's not at all on the DS. What the fuck is this shit? The original game looks better.

>>388260507
This looks like a shitty 3DS port of a game. I'll still to playing the original, thanks.

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>>388262003
>Comfy couch
>Big TV
>Fun co-op RPG
>Girlfriend cuddled against me

I know the feeling, life is good.

>>388260507
>Forty six leaves

I'll wait until it goes on sale.

Weird how nobody's mentioning the voice acting and how terrible it sounds.

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>"Regarded as one of the greatest RPGs of all time"
And yet Square Enix didn't give the west an English port of the Seiken Densetsu Trilogy for the Switch.

...thanks...

>>388261383
>30fps/240p

nty

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>>388260507
And this was the game sonnyggers were so fucking proud yesterday?

>>388262330
You can swap between English and Japanese, and the Japanese voice acting is insanely better

>Playing RPGs with English voices on
>2017

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>>388262142

Whatever you say, Jack. You're the master race. It's really comfy though.

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>>388261485
Hope I can still use heal and mana pots for iframes

>>388262506
That does look pretty comfy

>>388262013
>>388262506

I was curious and looked it up, it actually looks really comfy and fun, reminds me of Fantasy Life on the 3DS, going to buy it right now, thanks.

>>388262330

I'm trying to forget.

That thing looks so fucking soulless.
Ticking boxes off the "modern game" rulebook even when it makes no fucking sense.

Voice acting? Check.
Mini map? Check.

back to 3D Potatos village

>>388260507
Never played the original back then, is the game turn based like Tales or action based like Ys?

>>388260507
>and has now undergone a much-awaited full 3D remake!
Funny, I don't remember anyone asking for a 3d remake.
Much less one that looks like a smart phone game.

Also, what's the point of putting this up five months before it becomes available?

>>388261495
Until you realized how to turn him into easymodo

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>>388262593

If you have played Dark Cloud/Chronicles, it features a similar system where you have to decorate houses for NPC's to suit their needs. It's really fun and the furnitures looks adorable.

>>388262702

Hey, you're welcome, buddy.

how will the change to 3f affect the gameplay? what about the music?

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>>388262163
The DS FF remakes looked a lot worse

>>388262330
I'll switch to the Japanese audio and not look back.

>>388260507
Holy shit

This is something I expected to be $15 like the FF4 remake, or maybe $20 max. No way they will get many buyers with that outrageous price. Oceanhorn (originally a cell phone game) looks better than this and I got it for a buck before.

>>388262715

Oh, forgot: motherfucking preorder DLC. Check.

It' just the vomit-inducing cherry on top of the shit cake.

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>>388262142
>a lot worse

>>388261351
It's literally a 1:1 copy. Out of all the things they could do to spruce it up a bit and make it more appealing they chose to do absolutely nothing. There's not even a background, just a black abyss.

>>388263369

It's a 1:1 copy with less flair, gusto and skill in execution.
When the remake looks worse than the original, you have a problem.

>>388260507
>Expected shat out android port
>It's an actual remake
Fucking bizarre. $40 seems like a lot for a remake of a 20 year old game.

>>388261465
no you wouldn't you fucking dumbass
you'd just go fucking pirate it like half the other people do

Yeah cool but when's Seiken Densetsu 3?

>>388261051
i like how you replied to one person with that when he said "noice"
you're a grade A moron you faggot

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>>388260507
ALRIGHT, HEAR ME OUT...

What if....

What if.......

We don't buy it?!?!?!?

>>388261176
We live in a world with games like Ori and the Blind Forest and Diablo 3.
This looks like a dated 3DS port. SoM deserves better.

>>388262304
Pls don't post ghost boy I miss him

They going to remake it into an actual good game? SoM was a piece of crap

>a game gets rereleased

>no changes compared to original
>people are mad
>only visual update
>people are mad
>full remake
>people are mad

Every time.

>>388264032
How dare you even consider that?

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LIVE A LIVE REMAKE WHEN?

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>>388264032
I'm willing to bet more than half the people in this thread are going to buy it

Remember how much shit 4chan talked about MW2 and even made a boycott group on Steam? That lasted long...

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This could have looked like an HD legend of mana. Imagine if square could pull off some Vanillaware shit.

>>388264116
No, it's going to be the same game, just with budget polygons.

>>388264223
http://www.strawpoll.me/13788721/

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I think it looks good, the problem is that the original looked fucking wonderful, so this is easily a downgrade. Which leads to the inevitable question of fucking why? Of course the answer is "it's cheap and it'll sell better than if we got a proper remake with the original's visuals". In the end, it's the public's fault.

>>388264180
Jesus fucking christ fix your aspect ratio

>>388264032

They'll still have taken a shit on our childhood (as well intentioned I'm willing to believe some people working on this are).
Not buying their game probably hurts them, but qualitatively in no way comparable to the way we've been hurt.

Whatever ends up happening, the asymmetry is dissatisfying.

Legend of mana remake when?

>>388261262
While Mana does have a ton of bugs, there's very few you'd encounter in regular gameplay. So what are you talking about?

>>388264394
Let's only ruin one Mana at a time

i will buy it in the hopes of a Secret of Mana 2 remake.

I like that the key features for the remake are terrible costume DLC. Why should I buy this when I have the original right next to my t.v. At least give me something beyond 3ds graphics that ruin the atmosphere

>>388261436
The assets are actually from rise of mana, which is a phone game. We never got it but I heard it was actually interesting.

>>388263307
why is it necessary to jam mini maps into everything, if you get lost in Secret of Mana you are probably retarded and beyond help.

GRAPHICS ARE FINE.
WHAT ISN'T FINE IS THE PRICE!!!!!
PRE ORDER DLC REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FUCK YOU SQUARE.
I like the costumes too. I just wish they'd stop being greedy and put them in the normal game. Would have been a cool unlockable but those don't seem to exist anymore in this world.

FYI, if you want to preorder the game, you can save 15% with a GMG account bringing it down to $34. I'd recommend you hold off though and wait til GMG sends out some extra discount code that can be used with the preorder to save a bit more money since there's still 5 months before release.

>>388263307
hexagons and UI covering most of the screen ruins it completely. mana is much cleaner and nicer to look at it and doesn't feel like i'm looking at a readout in a fighter jet cockpit

>>388264798
the minimap is the snes map. It's cute.

>>388260507
Why the fuck is this not on the switch fucking hell why boycott the go to console for this gen are they fucking retarded

>>388264667
>Secret of Mana 2
No game by that name has ever existed

>>388265387
I meant Seiken Densetsu 3

>>388262013
Wow, after looking up the google play page, the artstyle looks a lot like Legend of Mana, which is a very good thing in my book. Looks very promising.

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>>388265476
Fair enough

>>388265387
Funnily, no mana localization has referenced the numbers so far. IF they did localize SD3 what do you think they would call it?

>>388260507
I wanna fuck that Flammie

>>388260507
Holy shit fuck fuck fuck I'm so stoked holy shit thanks op! That is one of my favorite games of all time.

Oh fuck, as I was typing that my heart sunk after I realized how shit square has become. I really hope they don't fuck it up.

>>388265752
Glad to know I'm not the only one who looked up porn of it the second I saw it.

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Preordering on psn gets cute psn avatars too

>>388264252
That would require effort. Better to join do a low budget remake using the shitty engine from the latest SD1 remake.

I'm not a fan of the graphics, not a fan of the price tag...but if we could get all the shit they WANTED to throw into the original SoM instead of the rushed hackjob we got and still loved anyway, it might not be all bad. Wouldn't hurt to see the magic system fixed since it was fucking broken to shit as it was.

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>>388265732
It's the same dilemma as Mother 3, which Smash Bros just called Mother 3.

Actually its been called Seiken Densetsu 3 for so long I think they'll just stick with that.

>>388264180
never japan hates us

>>388265913
>dangling slutty dlc costumes
fuck you square you assholes

>>388265732
Well Heroes of Mana does take place in the same world a few years earlier, so....

Heroes of Mana 2

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>>388260507

I'll get it on a sale for under $10 at some point, it is one of my favorite classic games and I wonder how the multiplayer is now.

>>388265913
Weird fact: Secret of Mana was the first time moogles appeared outside of Japan. It was also the last Mana game to include moogles.

>>388265913
what the fuck, they have names? I didn't know that

I guess it would be too much to ask for ps vita-ps4 crossbuy huh.

>>388266482
Apparently their names originally showed up only in the Japanese manual for the game.

>>388260507
It's too bad there's no way to get games for free on PC.

I'm fine with the graphics, but that price is a bit up there, especially since the Crash trilogy which was 3 games released for the same price. But Square continues to think they're the top shit in the gaming industry right now so I'm not completely surprised they're over pricing their stuff.

>>388266482
I think the U.S didn't get the name reveals until a bit later. I remember finding out around legend of mana.

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>>388265387
Secret of Mana however was almost named Final Fantasy Adventure II

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>>388265752
I wonder what the flying sequences will look like.

>>388266923
i wouldnt even want to play it free. It's just an iOS port, as most of the 'classic' FF games are on Steam.

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>>388266945
>But Square continues to think they're the top shit in the gaming industry right now

Ahh, the days when could actually live up to that.

>Sqeenix shits another one of these fucking shit-awful looking things out onto Steam where they put an intern in charge of "improved" grafix

do they not understand the entire concept of a nostalgia cash grab is to NOT modify what the original looked like? just release it as close as possible since any alterations made removes that much more nostalgia value. like imagine if Beamdog had "improved" baldur's gate graphics by making everything a shitty Pixar-styled giant talking head.

Secret of Evermore when?
its the superior game...

>>388267542
This to be quite honest.

If they do this for SD3 I'll care because then we can have a legal English version of that game.

>>388267542
Now here's a man with refined tastes.

>>388267513
They've already released Secret of Mana on mobile for $8.99.
A complete remake of Baldur's gate might be interesting

>>388260507
Why dont you blame vita cunts.

It's literally the reason why it looks like that.

>>388260507
Day one buy here. I can't make fun of nostalgiafags anymore.

>>388266482
Always had names in JP, NA didn't get the names until the phone ports.

>>388267542
Star Tropics and Illusion of Gaia were also really good. Nintendo/Square are sitting on a lot of good IPs.

>>388267112
This remake isn't on ios.

>>388267542
It's really not.

>>388267882
Because if it wasnt coming to vita too the threads would just be crying about that.

>>388268062
Neither of those were Square. IoG was Quintet and published by Enix but quintet is dead as fuck.

>port of an old nintendo game.
why do developers think people want asset-swapped versions of nintendo games?

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>>388260507
They made a 3D remake of Secret of Mana?
How has Chrono Trigger still not got one?
For not being some PSP or Vita port those graphics are just a little bit inexcusable.
Then again I did just read it is also coming out on Vita so I understand a little, they're just auto-porting to PC and PS4.
I get $40 is pretty much the going rate for new portable games in general.
yada yada
But Steam isn't a console.
There are options.
For $40 you can get 2 old Ys game remakes.
Ys 7 comes out in 4 days on steam while the North American release of Ys 8 is coming out on the 12th for Vita, PS4 and PC.
If you want some low poly real time action stuff there are a little more options for fractions of the price.
Some of the Tales series are on steam.
Gurumin

I'm sure I'll buy this remake, Secret of Mana isn't a bad game... but I'll only buy it if it's 50% off during the 2018 holiday sale.

>>388269490
Chrono Trigger had the DS remake. SoM hasn't had shit for a long time.

>>388260742
>lazy remake

Reminder we got 3 Crash remakes for only $60

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>>388260507

Welp, there are games that are much worse and demand the same amount of nazi gold.

>>388269490
So far the 3d remakes Square's done of their old 2d games are ff4, SD1, SD2 and romancing saga on ps2. At least that I can think of.

>>388264041
like you could do any better

>>388261051
>it's another anti-consumer cuck episode

>>388270323
hopefully professionals can do better than me yes, otherwise why would I buy their product?

>>388269632
$40

They're considerably smaller games though

>>388266362
You got turned into a moogle in FF Adventure and they're in rise of mana apparently

>>388268062
I've been saying Terranigma and Illusion of Gaia should hit Steam for years. I'd buy it.

Hell, I'd pay ridiculous amounts of money for a proper Vagrant Story port as well with widescreen and ultra fast load times on PC.

>>388270691
dummo
you play rpgs for the graphics or for the story?

If the gameplay is upgraded to not be absolute dogshit I'll check it out.

>>388262003

more like king of the grill amirite

>>388271315
>Illusion of Gaia
Who even currently has the rights to the game?

I would love if they stick to sprites.
Just make it on high res, and sell it at a good price.
Nothing against this graphics, but.. It had really beautiful sprites work.

No, emulating is not good. Looks like shit on a big tv

>square does that with the FF
>it sells
>other companies"HEY, why don't we do the same?"

What a nightmare.

>>388261351
>that minimap
Is that really necessary?

>>388271790
The mobile version actually does have updated sprite work. Like really good sprites, not the shit they started doing after FF dimensions. You can play it with a controller on nox, but honestly som plays pretty ok with touch controls too.

>>388270196
They also did 3D remakes of FF3 and "FF4: The After Years." which I still gotten around to playing yet.

>>388269623
that was a port not a remake

>>388272021
I dunno how I forgot those. TAY is actually neat that they did it 3d to match 4DS instead of just porting the psp version or ruining it like 5 and 6. Not that its great.

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>>388269623
But not a 3D remake.
Secret of Mana got ported to iOS in 2010.

>>388260507
Call me when they release Seiken Densetsu 3.

>>388262332
Did the trilogy sold badly ir something? Why is this not coming to the Switch but it's coming to the Vita of ALL thing?

>>388271934
Is it just the old 2d game? I'd be okay with that.

It looks like the remakes they put on mobile

does it come with the original? it should

>>388260507

They're gonna add the content that had to be cut when the SNES CD-addon was dropped, right?

>>388264149
BeastBoy got a remake that was praised on /v/. People just don't like lazy corporative shit like this.

>>388264382
How is this shitting on it? Oh unless you mean that everyone here is seriously bitching because it's not made at the same level as Injustice or FF15 graphically.

>>388267882
No, coming out on Vita has no relation to it looking so shit. Dragon Quest Builders looks Miles better and It also was on Vita.
From the shit 3D to the awful dubs this is obviously just a lazy cashgrab.

>>388271441
If you only play RPGs for the history, you are in the wrong genre, go read a book. Presentation os half the charm of RPGs.

>>388260507
Um, what is a texture seam again? If the screenshot is anything to go by, the game looks fine to me desu.

>>388260507
Secret of Mana was never good.

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>>388260507
>voice acting

>>388272323

the DS chrono trigger mostly just had some second screen functionality with menus and some extra content and the playstation anime FMV's. Still a decent version aside from the lower music quality.

>>388274896
americans cant read

>>388274430
there are no visible texture seams that i can see in that screenshot. it's just very low poly so there are abrupt angular flows to the texture that match the mesh topology that don't look very good when viewed from certain angles. that kind of thing is 100% avoidable without increasing the polygon count

The original is one of my favorite games ever. You guys should check it out just to play just by virtue of it being a classic.

>>388275179
>Still a decent version aside from the lower music quality.
It's really fucking good for the DS, honestly. Mitsuda did the sound engineering for that version himself.

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I'm glad they'll never desecrate Secret of Evermore, AKA the superior game.

>>388275387

Do you mean the first Mana game or SoM? Great taste either way

>>388275387
>You guys should check it out just to play just by virtue of it being a classic.
They really shouldn't, though. The game has aged like a corpse in a dungeon.

>completely botched accuracy mechanics
>pointless charge mechanic with little payoff
>90% of boss fights devolve into magic spamming
>clunky ring interface instead of a proper menu
>shitty AI that gets stuck around stairs and walls
>needlessly limited inventory space
>magic and weapon level ups don't feel substantive at all

The only thing that has kind of stood the test of time with Secret of Mana is the fact that it's a top-down co-op RPG, which you don't see all that many of. In every other respect, it's beaten out by games like Link to the Past, Alkahest, Terranigma, and a bunch of others.

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>>388260507
>local multiplayer only
FUCKING WHY

That had the perfect chance to make something amazing that much more fun with friends and they ignored it completely.

It really is just a mobile game only shinier

>>388260507
looks just like Samus Returns, utter shit.
As if this masterpiece ever needed a fucking remake. Thanks Generation Z.

I'm hoping this spurs another wave of Flammie artwork

>>388275435
There's nothing to desecrate

>>388275416

yeah but it just doesn't quite have that SPC sound. I'd still call it the definitive version of the game though, and definitely worth having.

>>388276073
The rest you right but these nah man, not for the magic at least and many bosses spamming magic is slower than using the right weapon combo with the effects you can get.
>magic and weapon level ups don't feel substantive at all
>pointless charge mechanic with little payoff

I just really enjoy the games "exploration" and realtime combat, it stands the test of time with the other classics. Its not some responsive action game but its a lot more than the other RPGs like it, those have other combat systems that excel in their own ways

>>388276109

where do they say local multiplayer only? I read it as having both.

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Is this digital only?

>>388261351
I can see they kept the "cheap rpg maker/game maker" aesthetic from the original.

Thats what modern fags think SoM looks like BTW because the lack of layering and repetitive tilesets.

>>388276672
The steam page doesnt say it has online and neither did the article I read that was about the PS4/bita release

I just want to team up with my bros so I'm hoping its just not accurate info yet

>>388260507
As long as the dialogue and story do not change AT ALL, it's all good.

>>388275264
True that.

>>388276818
SoM doesn't look anything like cheap rpgmaker/game maker
The remake does, but the original doesn't.

>>388276938
It's already changed. There's new voiced dialogue in the teaser trailer.

>>388260507
I'm glad some people are hyped, but I just don't see it.

They have completely and utterly ruined the original artstyle.

>>388276910

same I mean, that'd be the reason to even buy the game is to play it online with some friends.

>>388277089
No fucking shit, I'm just letting you know what others feel tords it.

Also the first areas is oretty lacking compared to the later parts of the game, shit even the water effects are nice than most RPG maker shit. But Gaias navel and the first forested area look like ass. The evil witches area and the place with the seasons look fantastic in coparison because the colors and fog effects.

Shit I cant wait to see if matango and ice country look any good. Or that specific island with the overpriced gear thats outclassed easy as hell.

I love this games optional content

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>>388277543
>tords
huh.

Heres my image anyways

>>388276629
>The rest you right but these nah man, not for the magic at least and many bosses spamming magic is slower than using the right weapon combo with the effects you can get.
Bullshit. You can use the Midge Mallet to reduce Popoi's cast times and cooldown significantly and destroy almost every boss with a magical weakness. It's a mindless shitshow.

>I just really enjoy the games "exploration" and realtime combat
There are much better games out there for that stuff, though? I even named a few. You're just blinded by nostalgia, my man.

>>388260507
>local coop
wat?

>>388277180
Well, fuck that then.

Why the fuck do these "remakes" have to look like fucking garbage ass 3DS low poly shit?
and who the fuck even wanted this? Literally nothing at all wrong with the original, it was a masterpiece. This trash is a cash grab and only the 20 year olds will praise it because it makes them feel "retro"

>>388277651
>There are much better games out there for that stuff, though?
You didnt name any like it though.
>zelda
Wow so many characters to play as and stats to level. Amazing vehicles to moves around the world map. Oh and I forgot the story, gotta love that save the princess bit. Not that save the world you stupid orphan is any better
Terranigma is also like zelda, I beat that and SoulBlazer last year. I prefer the latter. Didnt get around to finishing illusion of gaia though.
Never tried that third one you named, looked it up and it fits with zelda and terranigma, so nothing like SoM.

I enjoy SoM because it blends genres boy-o. Same reason I love stuff like Act Raiser. Oh and the fact it has 3 player only makes it that much sweeter compared to most other RPGs at the time.

>>388277921
I agree, 2D high resolution art would have been fantastic though. Or at least the fake 2D like Ori since "sprites are too hard for square"

>>388277921
>3DS low poly shit?

3ds wouldnt be able to handle this at all.

>>388277690
just like the original, what did you expect

>>388278103
>"sprites are too hard for square"
What about Dragon Quest 11 then?

>>388277921
i tried emulating the original recently and found it rather clunky and badly designed. i'll give this a shot, hopefully it's more fluid, but it looks like they're trying to stay true to the original so it will probably be just as bad on that front. the visuals look nice, though.

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>>388277651
>You can use the Midge Mallet to reduce Popoi's cast times
Didnt know that, spamming the bosses weakness to win doesnt make the game inherently bad though, otherwise souls games are equally mindless shit shows and people seem to love them. Same goes for over half of all turn based rpgs as well. I mean just making it so the creatures arent frozen during the cast would fix a lot right away but we all know this isnt that kind of remake.

Its like just because you dont prefer it doesnt mean its bad my man.

>>388278103
>sprites are too hard for squeenix
i think it's more because sprite are fucking tedious to make properly, both money-wise and time-wise, where as low-poly 3d's pretty easy.

reminder that popoi is a boyboy

>>388278581
Then do fake 2D like Ori?

Actual drawn backgrounds would be so nice though

they do this bullshit but won't port the 3rd game in english. What a bunch of fucking shit.

>>388278702
you're asking them to try and make good stuff while making money, i don't think they can do that anymore

reminder that they have never ever upgraded graphics since ps2, every game always looks like shit

>>388277651
>you can exploit a glitch to cast magic forever and freeze the game to murder things and this is boring so the game is bad

If you don't like a tactic don't use it. You could overcharge glitch your weapon charges and do 999 as soon as you hit level 2 on any weapon but I don't see you bitching about that

>>388260507
So hundreds of hours of work aren't worth $40 fucking bucks these days? I made $400 building a deck for a week. Get the fuck over yourselves.

>>388278851
>if you don't like *thing* don't use it
this is literally the worst argument

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>>388261639

>>388278103
>Wow so many characters to play as and stats to level.
Link has more utility as a single character than Randi, Prim, and Popoi combined. Most of the upgrade and leveling mechanics in SoM are pointless fluff. Leveling up magic takes forever and offers less payoff than it should given how stingy the game is about MP and Faerie Walnuts. Weapon upgrades are just something you take for granted and do out of habit. Rather than let you customize them, all the upgrade orbs are given in a set order and all that's left is grinding weapon levels, which again, is just mindless fluff. Meanwhile, the weapons and items in Zelda are frequently used to solve puzzles, fight enemies in specific ways, and traverse obstacles. Granted, SoM tried the latter a bit, but didn't handle it nearly as gracefully.

>Amazing vehicles to moves around the world map
Link to the Past had fast travel, hopping between two worlds, dashing, and other useful stuff. Secret of Mana had a dumb-looking dragon and a network of cannon that... somehow didn't kill the party despite launching them across an entire fucking continent.

>Oh and I forgot the story, gotta love that save the princess bit. Not that save the world you stupid orphan is any better
You forgot the "evil empire harnessing an ancient power and slowly killing the planet because of it" bit.

>>388279731
>all the upgrade orbs are given in a set order
Several of them are random drops.

>>388279731
So you prefer action games and I like both turn based, action and the many combinations of the two.

Cool.

And to think alttp is my favorite game of all time but som is awful because its not equal in every way. What a shame, better toss out 90% of the systems library.

>>388261051
What's the point of having money when you have shit taste? I know I sure as hell would rather play the original than this disgusting garbage

>>388280012
What's the point of liking anything if some sperg is gonna call it shit?

Call me when they deside to release the ports of the .Hack saga.

>>388280319
The G.U. Games are getting a remake, I imagine .hack will be sure to follow if it gathers enough attention.

I wonder if this version will include the cut content from the initial SNES CD release? The game really fell apart around sage Joch.

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>>388280004

>>388280598
AHAHAHAHA

Yeah, the texture seams are a problem, AoM had it too. Love the actual style and direction though.

hasty "remake"

more like SqEx putting another game through the "let's remake this in a shitty way so people stop asking for more of it" machine.

>>388260507
Looks fine you autist.

>>388279153
>bitch exclusively about thing that isnt intended gameplay
>not using it isn't an option

>>388280076
>What's the point of liking anything if some sperg is gonna call it shit?
Why do you care in the first place? Are you a cuck or something?

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>3D Secret of Mana

>>388282113
But it looks awful

Real talk, I hate all these low poly 3D remakes Square's been shitting out. It's something they've done for years, and I've never liked it. They all look garbo.

>>388260507
Why the fuck would they remake this instead of Chrono Trigger or FF6? Who the fuck is in charge there?

>>388260507
What is the point of remaking Secret of Mana?
Didn't they remake this millions of times and each time it ended up being inferior to the original SNES version?

>>388284089
You're thinking of Final Fantasy IV.

>>388261351
Holy fuck this looke an ugly ass PSX game upscaled through ePSXe

>>388283886
Chrono trigger and not-future tech final fantasies are too similar to dragon quest for SE

>>388271540
Some Japanese laywers have the rights in the bottom of a bin at the back of a closet most likely.

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>>388264252
>vanillaware
Why do people think their games look good again?
Because they fucking don't. They look like ugly ass newgrounds bullshit.

Now Cuphead on the other hand, that looks amazing and is the proper way to do 2D graphics in the modern era.

>>388260507
God fucking damn it. Dissapointed every time. I remember when I first found and downloaded Dawn of Mana for PS2. Is this it? The mana I've been waiting for? No. Its a fucking watered down KH for children which was weebfucked out the ass and focussed on S rankings. SoM and SD2 are childhood favourites of mine, but I lost all hope for this series years ago.

>>388267394
>that pic
they were never the world's greatest video game maker
they were just an overrated company

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Reliable sources tell me they were blasting this song in the office 24/7 while creating this remake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsIhBK_LoZY

>>388267882
The vita could handle PS3-like graphics. It literally could play a very graphically advanced Killzone game.

>>388269490
>>388272323
Why would you want a 3D remake of CT you cunt?
CT has aged great and 3D graphics would just ruin it

>>388266296
isnt this some fucking old ass gamefaqs copy pasta? dude was playing the game with his friend over kaillera. His friend thought his +5 str power wrist was the shit even though there was better stuff. So when he went to the bathroom or something the dude took over his character, sold the power wrist and equipped something else?

>>388270759
They're not considerably smaller games at all
Each one of them have 10 hours of playtime or more if you do everything and they're all done with up-to-date graphics unlike SoM remake having 2010 phone graphics

>>388271790
Just use some fake scanlines for modern tv's it's the best thing you can do.
Fucking modern tv's and their shitty fixed pixels

>>388285315
That's exactly it, though I'm not sure of the origin or if they were using Kaillera. I don't think ZSNES is compatible with it. But ZSNES did have it's own netplay option.

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>>388284792
Agreed. This looks good for a PS2. No longer.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13788721/r
It seems like the general sentiment is that it doesn't seem all that bad but its not worth $40

>>388285575
yea i remember reading the story years ago. I'm pretty sure the original story was posted in a thread on gamefaqs. I'm pretty sure I witnessed the original post.

>>388261051
>thingsthatneverhappened.rtf

>>388285770
Honestly it doesn't look good for anything.
This cheap flash looking shit always looked horrible

Imagine going from something like Metal Slug/Samsho 3 on Saturn to this shit on Dreamcast.

Looks gross. 8/16-bit SD characters need to stay in the past or in retro-style games.

>>388284792
>>388285770
>>388285870
I don't honestly understand how someone can think Cuphead OR Vanillaware games look bad

They both look really pretty, but for different reasons.
Though I like Odin Sphere best of the Vanillaware games

>>388285938
Cuphead looks great
Vanillaware games look like Newgrounds/Deviantart bullshit. They just look horrifically ugly.
Same goes for Rayman Origins/Legends albeit maybe to a lesser extent.

Ever since they abandoned sprites 2D gaming went to shit.
Cuphead has a chance to revolutionize 2D gaming although hand-drawn graphics with hand-colored backgrounds and shit can be very expensive to do so I doubt it'll happen.

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>>388260507
The PS4 version is 29,99 :)

>>388261051
Good goy

>>388286207
>Vanillaware games look like Newgrounds/Deviantart bullshit.
False. Only Dragon's Crown looks Devianart garbage. The other games are very good. In Dragon's Crown they wanted the /v/ audience, using grotesque artstyle and degenerate human proportions.
However their other games are full of beauty and art harmony

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This game is coming to the fucking Vita but not the Switch LOL! Does anyone have that one image of the switch looking out the window with rain?

Is it still multiplayer? Can I still mess with the AI a bit if not? Damn I loved this game as a kid.

Who wants a copy? I'll give one for free

>>388286539
I'd actually like a copy if you're being serious. I think it looks cute and missed out on Secret of Mana back when it came out on the SNES.

Why give a game away before its even out though?

>>388286207
Shill harder for cuphead why don't you :3

>>388286207
It's a hipster episode pretending ''hand-drawn'' garbage made by New York Art College students is good.

>>388284792
>that game that's been on every e3 for even longer than vs xiii

This shit is never coming out

>>388287174
they want to avoid being another Yooka-Laylee and Mighty No.9.
Actually in 10 years people will remember Mighty No 9 but they won't remember Cuphead

>>388287493
Fuck YOU

>>388286473
I'm not talking about the art style
I'm talking about the graphics themselves
They look like shitty flash graphics

>>388287823
>They look like shitty flash graphics
But that's not Devianart. To me Super Meat Boy is more Devianart than any Vanillaware game if your standard is ''flash garbage''.
Also 99.97% of indies sold on steam are more close to Super Meat Boy and Shovelware Knight than to Vanillaware

>>388275179
Lost Sanctum can suck a big fat chode, though

>>388260507
>$40
That's actually fucking disgusting, I like secret of mana and was somewhat interested despite the visuals but for for 40 bucks? Fuck off square

>>388286995
One of the devs literally taught himself 2D animation reading old books from the OG Disney animator legends

>>388287174
The game is coming out this September you idiot
It was gonna come out in 2015 originally but people bitched about there being no platforming levels

Reminder that back in 2015 the dev team still consisted of only 3-4 people working on the game. As a result of all the positive reaction from that E3 they went all in and managed to expand the team to around 20 people so they can add platforming levels and more content which is why they are now able to release it in just a month from now

>>388285130
>borderlands port
>runs like complete dogshit
it can only run "ps3-like" games if the developers pull insane black magic optimizations which most devs aren't interested in putting development time towards if they're even capable of it in the first place

>>388284792
>cuphead
>6 year dev cycle for a $20 game

Nah

>>388287251
>they want to avoid being another Yooka-Laylee and Mighty No.9.
This game was in development before these 2 were even a thing

Why can't you cunts realize that this game was being developed by a team of 3-4 people(and one of the 2 brothers was doing 70% of the animations all by himself) until 2015?
What the shit is wrong with your brain?

>>388288287
DUDE IT'S HAND DRAW XD LITERALLY 50s VIOLENCE :| -_-

>>388288313
>Why can't you cunts realize...
You're on /v/. Are you seriously asking this question?

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>>388287921
Dude, vanillaware games look deviantartshit pic related

Super Meat Boy for all it's rudimentary graphics manages to look more pleasing to the eye.

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>>388277621
How did you get your message window to have a solid background like that? It looked terrible when I tried playing it

Test

>>388288287
>20 bucks
>for the best looking 2D game ever made
>that was until 2015 developed by a small dev team consisting of only 3-4 members and only first shown to the public in 2013 which means it's still beating many AAA games out there to the punch like KH3 for example
Sounds like an absolute steal to me

>>388288412
No fuck you and fuck this response

>>388288549
It's a hack.

>>388288676
>best looking 2D game ever made

Fucking kek

>>388260507
So it's a Vita game first and foremost, right?

>>388288969
I dare you to post a better looking 2D game
Protip: you can't

>>388262506
shut up, highlander

>>388288908
Doesn't seem to be in Romhacking.net, though. Is it hosted somewhere else?

>>388289095
Saga frontier 2

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Will Senate be picking up a copy?

>>388260507
Watch it be single player only and you can only control the boy.

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Cant believe square managed to pull arcade-tier pixel art into this game, probable the most gorgeous snes game

>>388260507

Will buy in hopes of SD3 remake.

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>>388289303

>>388260507
Gonna buy a trillion copies, op

at least you fuckers deserve seiken densetsu 3

>>388260507
>90's trash
>Shitty game
GO FUCK YOURSELF CUNT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES. GET FUCKED FAGGOTS GIVE ME YOUR TEARS TRIGGER IS GOING TO BE REMADE YOU ALL LOST FUCK NEW GEN TRASH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SALTY MOTHER FUCKERS!

I'LL BUY 12 FOR EACH!

>>388289210
Great looking game but Cuphead has surpassed it
Character sprites don't look as good and they don't blend in as well with background as Cuphead does

>>388260507
Fuck off Adam

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>Slashing away at rabites as a carefree child
>Story takes me to the Pandora Ruins
>Suddenly these fucking statues
>This fucking song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a1qr6C1Mm0
My asshole puckered up so tight you wouldn't be able to stick a pin in it.

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>>388260858
It literally is just a phone game. The Adventures of Mana remake looked pretty much just like this graphics wise and only cost $15. This is a pathetic cash grab if they actually charge $40 for this shit.

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>>388289303
>Arcade-tier
You're delusional
That is far from arcade-tier
Honeslty looks a bit worse than Chrono Trigger because of the overdesigned character sprites

This is arcade-tier(pic related)

>>388260507
I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME!!!I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME!!!I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME!!!I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME I CAME!!!

>>388260507
>This just a nostalgia abusing cash grab
This is better then 100% of modern games. You're so bad at gaming...words cannot express the fail you have made.

Go back to cod kid and don't breed.

>>388266024
>which Smash Bros just called Mother 3
Because the game was only released in Japan and thus only had one name. They couldn't call it a name that doesn't exist.

>>388289251
Its already confirmed to have online multiplayer

>>388291430
Is it? Where did you see this, anon?

>$40 vita port to PC

Don't be stupid

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>>388291513
Steam page

>>388291702
Not him but that's local.

>>388291974
Why are "Multiplayer" and "Local Co-op" two separate tags then?

>>388292049
Probably whoever added the tags is stupid. He didn't even think about putting cloud.

>>388260507
>no cheevos
This shows how much effort they've put into the release. Dropped before even picking it up.

>>388291702
Square enix...
YOU ARE GOD BOW DOWN TO THE ENIX PRAISE HIM FUCKING TRASH BOW DOWN TO YOUR GOD!

ALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!

Wonder if they'll fix the game so that you can actually figure out where to go next. Every time I've ever played SoM I'd get about 3-5 hours into it before hitting a point where there's nowhere new for me to go to progress the game. It's usually around the time of finding a foggy forest when you have all three characters.

>>388260507
Well i have to be a work slave time for work! but know this...it's already pre pre ordered 2 copy's i love good games.

>>388293231
What are you going to do with the 2nd copy?

>>388260507
40 dollars for a game that was half-finished when it came out? Are they at least going to add some cut content?

>>388293350
They are going to cut out your mouth 90s trash pfft ahahahahahahaha FAGGOT!

>>388277921
The PS vita has to run it but most importantly it has to be able to run on mobile without too much work

>>388293408
Rude

Isn't this on Switch in Japan? Why aren't we getting the Switch release?

>>388261051
>if I have money I must pre-order buy everything I see
Have some fucking self-control you sperg.

>>388293490
Yes.

Hopefully the remake fixes the many bugs the originally game was plagued with.

But they probably won't.

>>388293505
That's something else.
Switch has a compilation of the first three Seiken Densetsu games, in their original form.
This is a full 3D remake of Seiken Densetsu 2.

>>388276109
It's local only on Vita
PS4/Steam has online

>>388261383
>Exclusive
Eat shit and die

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>>388260507
>Upgraded Gameplay - The original system has been reworked in an effort to realize a modern action RPG with improved gameplay.

Every.
Fucking.
Time.

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>>388294923
But it's still the same, according to the screenshots

>>388275435
Evermore was my first RPG, really loved that game.

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>>388295459

>damage numbers aren't red

>>388295459
I want to see what that green bar is supposed to mean, Target HP?

>>388295742
your fucking hp

>>388295851
Then why the red part? Boy isn't taking damage.

>>388295942

they added regenerating HP.

>>388260507
Secret of Mana remake? This came out of fucking no where. Preordering that shit right now.

>>388296000
Oh god please no.