How the fuck exactly does a multi-billion dollar company come

It's like the blizz ceo one day did too many coke lines and made a bet with his buddies that he could make this retarded prank of an expansion and people would actually be dumb enough to buy it

>>388247435
>we want the chink money

>>388247435
I liked it.

Literally the best expansion since TBC.
It was WoW's renaissance period before it inevitably all crumbled again.

>>388247435
Considering it was way better than the 2 expansions it was sandwiched between, it was a pretty good decision amidst a storm of bad decisions.

>>388248146
>kung fu panda crusade is better than wotlk
see a doctor friendo

>>388247435
Easily one of the best expansions.

A better question is how you can complain about MoP when Warlords is what followed it up.

>>388248397
MoP is "sandwiched" between Cata and WoD, you idiot.

>>388248397
So you agree that Cataclysm was so bad you can't even acknowledge it's existence?

>>388248051
>everything was still dead community wise

yea no

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>>388247435
I dunno anon but if you help me find teh answer I'd appreciate it,Gunna do an Alpha test soon of mah vidya

>>388248397
>caring about aesthetics
when did /v/ become full of casualfags?

>>388247435
BC>Vanilla>WotLK>MoP>Legion>Cata>WoD

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>>388247435
I loved the Pandass

I didn't play it when it was relevant but having since done some of the content for transmog I thought the whimsical far East setting was neat.

Everyone wanted pandas pandas pandas pandas since the joke they made about them in-game, "omg pandas confirmed can't wait to roll a brewmaster" was an actual thing.

A full year and a few months of literally one (1) raid did more to sour people on the expansion and the game in general than anything else in the expansion.

>>388248659
>>388248624
Cata was infinitely better than kung fu panda

MoP had better raids than every expansion except BC.

>>388248975
The beach must be hell for them between the sand, heat, and water.

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>>388248975
They look scary. Like they're wearing masks.

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>tfw you want to come back but theres nothing for you to come back to

WotLK and MoP were the only expansions that had any life to the world and story.

Everything else is shit.

>>388249049
wotlk ulduar. get rekt kiddo

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they know their audience

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>>388249180
Do not bully

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My second favorite expansion desu senpai

>>388247435
pandaren monks were canon since warcraft 3 and iirc the manual of warcraft 2 mentions them.

although they were called "panda alchemist" on warcraft 3

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>>388249231
Well, may as well go on, anon

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i miss mop so much

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>tfw no panda gf

>>388249012
t. never played MoP and quit Cata before the first patch hit

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>>388249231

>>388249206
Ulduar was better than every raid in MoP, but the other raids were rehash, shit single room boss rush, and ICC which was pretty average

>>388248945
Shit list. Incoming superior taste
TBC>Legion>WotLK>Panda>Vanilla>Cata>WoD

>>388248659
Not only was that ocean zone horrendous (and Stonecore was dull as shit too), not only did it has quite possibly the worst end game boss fight of all time, but Cata was really the expansion where I really started to dislike Thrall and his transformation into Metzen/Jesus

>>388247435
MoP was the best expansion in post-WotLK WoW

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>>388247435
>not loving based mists of pandaria
the ost was a masterpiece

>>388249774
swap legion with panda and you have a great list

MoP brought challenge mode dungeons which really brought me back into the game. Throne of Thunder wasnt very fun though, except the idea of an extra boss on Heroic only was pretty cool.

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>>388249183
>I see casuals crying, their voices all grow
>They'll see much less, than I would once know
>and I think to myself
>It's no longer my world

TBC > WotLK > Legion > Cata > WoD > MoP
this is non-negotiable

>>388249910
agreed
BC>WotLK>MoP>dogshit>the rest

>>388250061
>ToT wasn't fun
Man that raid was great what are you talking about. It was the best raid since Ulduar

>>388249568
>>388249736

https://e-hentai.org/g/1039118/5bab5fcc0c/

it's only 4 pages, but worth

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>>388248975
>When your favorite game gets polluted with furfaggorty

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>>388250194

>>388250139
t. never played MoP, WoD, or Cata

>>388247435
Are you seriously so insecure in your masculinity that you can't accept the idea that Pandas could be an interesting addition to a fantasy game famous for its deviation from the tired Tolkien rehashes like ES and Guild Wars?

>>388250180
Tortolla with any non-organized group ever made me want to tear my hair out. Lot of large trash zones that just dragged on. It had a lot of great mechanics they never tried before but it was just my personal experience with it that I didnt enjoy, I'm biased.

MoP was the only good nuWoW expansion.

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>>388247435
CHYNA

>>388250061
ToT is definitely in the top 4 best raids in the game. You're retarded.

>>388247435
Because they quickly move the story from the culture of pandaria to Garrosh's Tighting Grasp on the horde and how he devolves mentally and physically into the monster that he claims to be against

MOP was surprisingly dark(From finding out that Vol'jin got a hit placed onto him, taking back echo isles from the Orc-gestapo to finally seiging org to overthrow Garrosh ) , underneath the cuddly panda covers

only shallow people judge a book by its cover.

DEFINITIVE LIST
WotLK (pre AT) > TBC > Legion >Vanilla > WoD > Cata > MoP

MoP was shit and you're shit for liking it

>>388252321

Let me guess, you're a wrathbaby

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>>388247435
Just sit down and think about this for a second.
>they made a mediocre at best game
>you bought the game
>you bought each expansion for the game
>you don't actually own the game, you're paying them MONTHLY to gain temporary access to it
They can LITERALLY, do whatever they want.

I liked it only 'cause I'm a sucker for Oriental shit.

I thought the zones and the music were great.

>>388252321

>legion anywhere but the bottom.
they litterally cashed in all their hype chips and it still wasn't enough to save that mess.

>>388252659
Nope. Since Vanilla. Subscriber count backs me up, it plummeted as soon as patch dungeons that rewarded better gear than the raids came out.
>b-but it's Cata's fault players became bad!
>>388252931
It gets a high rank because it's the best the game has been since Cata.

>>388247435
Why do people purposely forget about Warlords of Draenor? They literally abandoned it six months after release and left it to fester.

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>Chen BAD
>panda bad
>PANDARIA BAD
>Lili BaD
>MONK BAD
>Kazoo Bad
WELL A KAZOO ZOO TO YOU TO
https://youtu.be/1waVSu4adDM

>>388253192

wotlk introduced dungeon finder and phasing.
That alone makes it unfit to be aywhere near the top.

>>388247435

It was literally the best the game ever was in terms of content and class design anon, grow up.

Only weak point were dungeon longevity and dailies, but those got fixed 1-month post launch in 5.1

>>388253635

>MoP PvP
>"Best it ever was"

I like mop but that shit is a lie.

MoP was probably the last time I got to level by grinding out mobs, so it's obviously the best recent expansion.

>>388250194
Thanks anon, pity it is so short.

>>388253407
Because even the developers for the patches/excap found the thing boring

You could feel it untill hellfire citadel patch(the game felt like a side project for blizz untill legion then they brought out the medium sized guns

what are you talkin about that was one of the best expansions

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MoP was the last time the WoW team actually tried to do something new, and they did it right. Shame that people like OP hated it because lol pandas, causing us to get shitty panderfests like WoD and Legion. The people that complained about MoP are the people that killed WoW.

Please post Panda wives

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>Make a good xpack with a shitty final update before WoD
>Everyone bitched so much WoD and Legion became garbage
Sugoi ne

>>388254717
More like
>Blizzard makes MoP, a good expansion
>People hate it because pandas
>Blizzard churns out WoD as a way to try and appeal to lost players
>OMG TBC 2 CONFIRMED, GET HYPED BROS
>WoD turns out to be the worst expansion to date and forever am ugly stain on WoW
>Now we got Legion, while definitely better than WoD, isn't close to MoP in quality, and the writing has gotten even worse because the staff are showing their clear bias'

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Early cataclysm was unironically the last time the game was good

Hour of Twilight reverted it back to the boring cancer aoe spamfest of Wrath on top of adding even more trash like LFR. Trying Legion only confirmed my suspicions I'd missed literally nothing.

I really like the OST for MoP though, found it when I was looking for comfy vidya music.

>>388247435
Litteraly the least worst expansion after WoTLK, from a lore point of view
Pandas are an interesting, Blizzard-style (clichés but well-written) take on East-Asian theme

>that wrathion questline
>entirely taken out instead of just removing the cloaks as a reward
>wrathion completely forgotten by the new hack writers

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Why are Pandaren so sexy?

>>388255817

because you're a filthy furfag who likes them thicc

>>388254995
Suramar was absolutely MoP-tier and I loved the shit out of it, despite my burning hatred of elfs. The writing was fantastic and the environments beautiful. The characters, while simple, were charming and never became tiring. The Tel'Anor story in particular is one of my favorite bits in all of WoW, and I'm sad that the main character from it never appeared again.

>>388256415
I couldn't get over the fact fucking Suramar still existed despite Warcraft III outright saying the damn city sunk to the bottom of the ocean.

>>388255983
Male human on female anthro is top tier

>>388248397
average intelligence of nostalgiafags

It's a fantasy game. Pull the stick out of your ass and stop caring so much.

>>388258104
The people who play them, that's it really

>hating on pandas even though they were in WIII
nostalgiafags are bad enough, but nostalgiafags who didn't play the RTS games are even worse

>>388258104
they suffer the same fate as Blood elves, they could make a fine race like in the trailers (even with all the retarded kung-fu panda fight scene) but the way they are animated screams joke race, same with gayelfs and shit like gnomes/goblins

>>388258104
You

Panda women are sexy and are made for breeding

>>388249012
In the begging probably yeah. Firelands and beyond you are retarded if you think that.

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I really love Mists of Pandaria. Great OST, nice looking zones, and general good gameplay. I have a lot of good memories of those days. I think WoD is a direct result over manchildren crying about pandas. "Buuuj buuh buuh pandas are for babies. Me me big boy!"
Then we get Orclords of Orcor, an expansion with shit story, shit gameplay, shit zones, just shit everything. It relied completely on TBC nostalgia and manchildren's love for orc dick.

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>OP doesnt like Pandaria
>OP will never know the joy of erping as a 40 year old pandaren MILF and flipping the WoW gold you make for hundreds of dollars

I feel sorry for you m8

>>388260648

Orclords of Orcnor had good raids. Everything else was shit.

>>388258321
Nigga are you for real right now?
I have never PUGed a Pandaren player who didn't turn out to be a total bro. The only reason I don't play a Panda is that I tend to be a dick and I don't wanna ruin the status quo.

>>388260808
This. BRF is Ulduar-tier

>>388261007

Blackrock was a great raid. HFC was breddy gud but a couple of those fights were just chores after awhile, specifically HFA and Gorfiend.

Everything else I really liked.

>EN was okay but too easy
>NH was pretty good but fucked over by the loot and itemization mechanics of the game
>Tomb of Soakgeras is a fucking trainwreck
>first boss in Antorus already has soak mechanics
Fugg
Do later bosses in that raid get better or is raiding in Legion just shit.

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Pandaria was leagues above Cata and anything following it
>Fresh new lore, written without need to constantly tie everything back into old lore
>Non recycled enemy varieties across land
>Beach assault conquest, brought Horde vs Alliance faction war back as top focus
>Comfy calming asian music
>No OTT THE WORLD IS LITERALLY GOING TO BLOW UP every 2 seconds plot
>Thicc panda girls

>>388261420

I really fucking hate NH and ToS. Some fights are 10-15 minutes long and if ONE person fucks up, you might as well wipe.

I dont mind challenging bosses, and I also get we cant have vanilla style where youd have 20 good people and 20 retards and MC, but fuck me I hate "one fuck up and youre done" fights. Mythic Krosus was fucking AWFUL.

>>388247435
i dont understand the meme hatred for this expansion.. It was good and it shed light on pandas/pandaria - a race of creatures we've rarely seen or heard about in the past.

i really think casual shits like OP thinks they randomly came up with pandas and panda land for a wow expansion..

>>388261753
Most, if not all, of Nighthold's problems would've been solved if Titanforging wasn't a thing and you had regular gear progress.

>>388252139
considering the current devs are all about feeling like a badass superhero at all times fighting cartoon villains to distract from their midlife crisis, it's not surprising they don't like MoP

Post Pandaren

Two reasons:

One, a group of faggots on the dev team had been pushing Pandas since TBC.

Two, they wanted to appeal to the Chinese market where most of their revenue comes from.

>>388247435
The community pushed for this though, newfag.

>>388261486
Not to mention monks were and still are one of the funnest classes in the game.

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>>388258104
what in the actual FUCK am I looking at?

>>388250194

>clit is on backwards in the last panel

every time

>>388265354
Never seen a bear's vagina irl before?

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>Warlords of Draenor is my favourite expansion

>incredibly risky aesthetic change in their biggest game that noone was asking for and a majority hated

>BUT I LIKED IT!

Jesus christ, shut the fuck up, you obdurate yiffing proles, for every brain damaged retard who liked these outlandish pandas there were 10 people turned off the game

>>388265605

>outlandish

BUT THEY WERE IN THE CANON AS PER A BONUS EASTEREGG MISSION IN WC3

>>388248975
post more please. they are so cute.

>>388265605
>muh mordor ripoff
>muh spikey orc shit
>muh green/brown felshit

>>388265605
>Blizz tries something new with MoP
>people flip their shit and demand they make old races and characters relevant again
>Blizz makes WoD nothing but orcs and Warcraft 1/2 nostalgia
>people flip their shit and complain that Blizzard never does anything new
Damned if you do

Surely the next expansion will recapture MoP's comfiness.

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Throne of Thunder was unironically the best raid they had in the entire game up until that point.

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>>388247435
Vengeance was a good mechanic

>>388247435
because it had the best raiding and pvp and the story was alright too

yes better than wotlk in everyway but story

>>388266150
i think people were still pissed about cata, they got over it in mop, then wod initial sales were great

>>388266252
Possibly with Kul Tiras coming back, maybe a new maritime city with a bunch of boats and maybe a beach for people to chill in.

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name one other expansion that had /ourking/ in it and I'll consider it better than MoP

>>388266461
I'll give it to you except for the PvP, arms was even more cancerous than it is right now.

>>388247435
Is it true that I only gotta do a +10 this week for max ilvl gear cause of the patch?

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>>388250195
you wot m8

>>388266605
>Not draenei/eredar: the enemy

>>388267148
they have nothing in common other than using the same animation skeleton

>>388266605
What are the Mogu up to nowadays? Why didn't they help fight the legion?

MoP is the best pleb detector in existence.
That is, if you dislike MoP, you're a pleb.

>>388267294
Blizzard is pretending they don't exist for some reason. The only time they come up in Legion is during the elemental shaman artifact quest, which is ridiculous anti-Lei Shen propaganda invented by Xuen to slander the only true servants of the Titans

Yeah OP, why would a multimillion dollar company go with a new concept instead of sticking to the old, safe, boring, shit? It actually is kind of weird.

>>388267252
He has a point, blizzard has been pathetic with animation recycling for far to long. It's fine if they want to skin new trash mobs or something but for focused races and shit reusing the Draenei model was a bad idea.

>>388266905
yes

Same reason the Warcraft movie was made with a specific audience in mind: China.

>>388247435
its unironically the best expansion they've done.

>>388267790
it annoyed me in WoD when the two new races were just reskinned Zandalari trolls and reskinned geists

>>388268073
I left before the end of Cata but based on what I've seen weren't the Zandalari trolls using the Vrykul model?

>>388267294
No idea about the mogu, but the Klaxxi are almost guaranteed to be returning probably next expansion if the leaks and rumors about it being old god themed are true.

>>388247435
MoP is fine;

WoD and Legion are pure cancer.

>>388268475
>Klaxxi

They're effectively wiped out though

>>388268363
not even close. Their model is similar to the male night elf one, but a ton of the animations are different, compared to all the other model reuses that are direct rips of the skeleton with all the animations unchanged

>>388268553
Like that means anything to Blizzard.

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>>388268553
if only there was some faction going around resurrecting past lore characters and making them fight the Legion

>>388268553
>illidan
>gul'dan
>grommash
>archimonde

lore is shit now

>Vanilla
Pretty bad overrall.
>TBC
Getting better, but still not good.
>WoTLK
Huge steps in the right direction. Decent.
>Cata
Beginning was perfect before all the dungeon nerfs. Then it was ok still.
>MoP
2nd greatest expansion, story was really good and the gameplay was perfected.
>WoD
Some steps back, but also some steps forward. Story was obviously rushed, but it was still a good cinematic experience.
>Legion
Honestly the best the game has ever been. Legit the best expansion.

Can't wait to see what's next.

>>388268475
I want to seduce a bug into turning against their old gods.

>>388268653
>Not even close
Well the reason I thought as such was because the MoP Zandalari are well postured compared to typical troll models and are more proportionally human.

The Vrykul model was like blizzards attempt at making non-retarded humans but with animations to match the fact that they were supposed twice as tall as them. Since the Zandalari are also the tallest trolls on average and the Vrykul model has an assload of animations (Almost enough to be a playable race) I figured that is what they did.

You have to remember that the engine is old and its apparent, or at least it was apparent that the animation comes in sets with the mesh being applied to it.

For example, Treants couldn't swim before druids got the form. When they added the Treant swimming animation all of a sudden treant mobs could chase you through water.

The eels in Vashjir use the mana worm model so they added an underwater death for mana worms so they wouldn't turn into orbs. If you reloaded their corpses they would turn into orbs just like regular manaworms.

Essentially the animations come in sets, you can add things to them but it applies to everything that uses them.

This is WarCraft now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPguoeYTvMI

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>>388269486
>we want the disney audience

Sounds about right by modern WoW standards

>>388247435
What was the problem? Pandaria was an established place since WC3.

Just because it was a race that started off as a joke doesn't mean Blizzard couldn't expand on it.

>>388269486
>>388269738
More like that's Hearthstone, and it's always been a less serious version of Warcraft. The entire Lich King campaign is nothing but jokes.

Warcraft is this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysRqfZPvijE

>>388270745
> Warcraft is this.
> Shows some saturday morning cartoon

>>388271010
Warcraft has been a Saturday morning cartoon since WC3.

>>388268904
I agree with this except for Legion, but that's because I've stopped raiding and this is a terrible fucking expansion for PvP. The raids do seem fun though, I just don't have the drive for them.

>>388271132
WC3 was pure dark fantasy inspired by Elric.

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>>388270745
This is now an Smugidan thread. Try to find a character in ANY video game more smug than this son of a bitch.

>>388271010
>>388271317
Shut up namefag

>>388271367
>if this fel tainted nigga don't shut the fuck up..

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>>388271367

>>388271317
It always impressed me how delusional Warcraft fags are. Thinking their shit was on the same level are Morowind or Legacy of Kain.

Nobody in Warcraft was reasonable or well-written, their actions were always impulsive and extreme even when it contradicted their character. Why did Grommash do anything that he did during the Orc campaign other than to create stupid in-game campaign goals?

>>388248397
>wrathbabies
lmao

>>388271738
Orcs are impulsive and violent by nature. Go read some Lore by Metzen himself.

>>388271738
really nigger, fucking Grom is your example of someone being uncharacteristically impulsive?

>>388271738
>Why did Grommash do anything that he did during the Orc campaign other than to create stupid in-game campaign goals?
Because he wanted short-term power and didn't think about the consequences which is exactly what happened the first time he drank demon cum.

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>>388271736
>Gul'dan has one cinematic with a heavy amount of smug that lasts for about 13 seconds
>Illidan has been smug as fuck since he was freed from Nighthold, where he killed Gul'dan

c'mon now

>>388271738
Grom is literally a better character than anyone from Legacy of Kain.

>>388271736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uby0nBPVhZc

Local school bully not so smug when molested.

>>388271738
>Thinking their shit was on the same level are Morowind or Legacy of Kain.

THAT'S the best fantasy you got?

Bringing D3 staff to WoW team was a fucking mistake, they are kiling the game.

>>388271926
The same Metzen who decided a moses inspired Orc would be the best leader and face of the Orc campaign for WC3? Meanwhile all humans are shown to be shallow and are basically meat punching bags for every other race in the campaign?

>>388271992
>>388272002
So what's the difference between Grom, Arthas, and Illidan? All of whom did the same shit and ended up being the only memorable characters of every campaign? Why was it that characters simply decided they would turn evil?
>Illidan: I will redeem myself and prove I'm not bad.
>Arthas: You should eat the skull of Gul'dan cuz we're the same.
>Illidan: You're right, we should meet up for a cinematic ending later because why the fuck not.
Also here's Rexxar, a half-ogre half-orc hybrid that exists for some reason. One of the only hybrids that exist in the entire fucking game's lore. Everybody just accepts him even though he's a half-breed because Thrall is fucking Christ and everyone loves him and he loves everyone.

>>388272428
>One of the only hybrids that exist in the entire fucking game's lore

There's an entire fucking village of Mag'har(half-orc half-ogre) in Blade's Edge that's been there since TBC.

>>388272310
For video games yes. Video game stories are fucking awful. Actual books like the Hobbit hold up because it was an actual artistic vision and not just a setting for a fucking video game that's as expendable and vulnerable to change as a Saturday morning cartoon.

People who treat anything like it's some artistic vision are people who haven't read a book in their lives.

>These characters use big words, that must mean this is good writing.

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>>388247435
Because they were Panda-ring to China.

>>388272548
SINCE TBC, WHEN THE STORY RETARDATION AND RETCONS STARTED.

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>>388265061

>tfw old brewmaster will never come back

>>388272694
Name three that are objectively retarded and not subjectively unfit to your taste.

>>388272604
Who is comparing anything to books here? Warcraft is an enjoyable fantasy world that works well within the video games it's in. What's the problem here exactly?

>>388272795
The non-broken Draenei.
The Blood Elves joining the Horde.
Illidan being evil.
Kael'thas being evil.
"Tempest Keep was merely a setback."
The time dragons.
Horde Paladins and Alliance Shamans.
Kalecgos.
Kargath Bladefist and the Fel Horde.

>>388272726
>shuffle

>>388273057
>The time dragons.

That was already a thing though.

>wanted to try out MoP private server to take a break from vanilla and WotLK
>barely got a taste of it playing a month of retail as all the content was able to be cleared through in a couple of days due to WoD leveling at the time
>only server barely has anyone on it and is based in Hungary
>scripting is good but too many little things that don't feel right

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>>388273057
>The non-broken Draenei.
Being less ugly and unrelated to the broken and lost ones, what a shame I guess.

>The Blood Elves joining the Horde.
Made sense, they had to fall back on something with Kel'thas going batshit and the Horde had Sylvanas, who was their former Ranger-General

>Illidan being evil.
He was never evil, he was just an anti-hero who happen to piss of the wrong people (the players). His lack of empathy is debatable.

>Kael'thas being evil.
Kael'thas was a literal cuckold.

>"Tempest Keep was merely a setback."
Not liking a meme isn't objective, it's not like this one line influenced anything.

>The time dragons.
I'll give that to you since time travel is always retarded.

>Horde Paladins and Alliance Shamans.
Why? They explained draenei shamans pretty well I thought with Nobundo's connection to the Light being severed by the Red Mist and falling to the elements of draenor instead. Sin'dorei were formerly Quel'dorei who had plenty of paladins.

>Kalecgos.
Going to have to do more than say his name, or at least say something more relatable like >Anveena who was actually retarded.

>Kargath Bladefist and the Fel Horde.
Orcs gonna orc.

>>388273568
>Made sense, they had to fall back on something with Kel'thas going batshit
Did you even play BC? They had no idea Kael was crazy until well after they go to Outland with the Horde, the whole reason they went was to hook back up with him.

>>388273832
Regardless, the Horde has Sylvanas who they could obviously relate to. They even represent that in game, Undead start Neutral with every other Horde faction instead of Friendly since they're untrusted, except for the Blood Elves which they start Friendly with.

>>388273057
The Draenei stuff was pretty stupid but I love jerking off to their porn so it's hard for me to have a strong stance on it.

>>388274125
Fucking this. How can I hate Blizzard when they give my dick so much fuel to be beaten off to? People who Lorefag this hard must be the largest indicator of being a wizard.

>>388249651
is that a microdick and balls?

>>388274383
it's a planet-sized pandaren butt, but i wish it was what you said because it made me laugh

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Now that we're talking about modern WoW what is /v/'s opinion on demon hunters?
Was it a mistake to make them a playable class?

>>388273181
So were Pandaren.
>Entire concept of time travel with no consequences on the present has been a thing since TBC
>People went apeshit about going to an AU Draenor

Everything Blizzard did for any of their franchises was because some retard in a board room went "it would be cool if..." There has never been a rational or artistic reason for anything. The dark portal was destroyed and yet it was just fine in WC3? Blizzard just needed a deus ex machina device to traverse and probably thought Stargate was a good show.

>>388274572
I don't mind them. Death Knights were a lot more shoehorned than them, so I don't see the problem.

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>>388271010
>Saturday Morning cartoon
>*teleports in*
>Mwa ha ha! You'll never beat me!
>*leaves*
>This was the peak of WoW according to Blizzfags

>>388274572
What are legs that bend the other way like this called?

>>388273568
Blizzard dindu nuffin blizzard a good boy.

>>388274768
My only gripes with them is that they were the second leather melee class added to the game in a row and Blizzard was too fucking lazy to come up with an idea for a third spec for them.
Hopefully next expansion they will look into giving them some more potential variety in playstyle.

>>388275489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2i9zEXPXxU&

This was from earlier today. I think they're pretty skilled to play hehe xd

Only reasons I liked MoP was because my main is a warlock and boy was it fun being a lock until Bliz shafted us

>>388274921
digitigrade I'm pretty sure.

>>388274864
>tfw I can see the Path of Frost animation going off in the picture

cheeky fuckin death knight there m8

probably a grab at asian markets. dumb though.

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>>388272726
rip in pip keg toss. made leveling as a monk great. also rip mists destro

>>388275856
I feel bad for Xelnath.
It must hurt to watch Blizzard purposely destroy the class he poured his heart and soul into after getting fired.

MoP was good, sorry youre autistic

>>388274572
>every new class has been a melee dps class/tank in a game that's generally unfavorable to melee and a general abundance of tanks outside of 5 man content
I don't really care because blizzard can't design any class intelligently and whether a spec is good or bad, from vanilla to legion, has always come down to dumb luck.

>>388276485
>a game that's generally unfavorable to melee
Not really an expert but melee seems to be absolute king in Legion.
Especially in PvP where playing a caster is absolute aids right now.

>>388254995
This is the correct opinion. MoP was objectively a good expansion for most players, people just were jaded about the panda them (myself included). I should have enjoyed the expansion more. Then to make up for this, they released the rushjob shitshow Orclord of Draenor, which had the opposite of Pandas, but awful gameplay.

>>388277457
WoD could've been amazing if they didn't end up cutting half of the content from the finished product.
They had to cut two capital cities as well as at least two different zones not including Tanaan Jungle which was meant to be open at release. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an entire raid tier that got cut to considering WoD ended with just three.

>>388277978
>raid tier being cut
Is that not Blizzard tradition?

>>388277978
>he thinks they only cut half the content
>he thinks that's all they cut from the game
there's some list on mmochampion of like 20+ major things they cut. This includes, a Shattrath raid, i think 4 zones including an ogre island and continent as well as farahlon and some of zangarmarsh, there was a remodeled planned gorehowl legendary, 2 major cities, tons of garrison stuff, and a bunch more.

>>388277978

Less dungeons than any other expansion
Less raids than any other expansion
Zones cut
Tanaan as it was supposed to be replaced by what we actually got a lolLegion zone full of totally-not-apexis-dailies.

WoD was an all around shitshow in nearly every aspect. The entire Orgrim Doomhammer quest line reduced to Durotan crying "bro, plz don't be evil" and then Orgrim appearing nearly an entire zone later to die within 12 seconds. Great character development.

>>388278275
I remember when they said you would be allowed to build your garrison anywhere you wanted and that it would actually function like player housing instead of an instanced quest hub.
Honestly I'm not sure if all of that shit counts as either cut content or just empty lies.

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>They will never ever revert the legion class design changes

>>388278538
They will. Next expansion.

>>388278480
You remembered correctly
https://youtu.be/89mqkcNEszQ

>>388278538
there already doing it in Legion
rip in peace Breath of Sindragosa

>>388278609
unless they're reverting every class to how it was in 5.4 or in WoD then i really don't give a shit. These devs have proven they don't know shit about class balance and what actually made classes fun in MoP and even WoD to an extent if you weren't playing a pruned class like warrior

>>388277978
>as well as at least two different zones not including Tanaan Jungle which was meant to be open at release
original tanaan jungle was completely different so it should be counted
almost all of gorgrond was redone
ashran was completely redone at least once
underwater zangarmarsh zone which had at least one world boss
ogre continent which is still on the map
island below nagrand
island below spires of arak
farahlon

>>388278840
Or the next expansion does good like MoP and WoD.

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>>388278449
>was excited to see what Blizz would do with Kargath since he's my favorite
>he's the first fucking boss of a raid that isn't even Shattered Hand related in any way
>meanwhile Ner'zhul is just a dungeon boss and Kilrogg is a forgettable raid midboss
>You never even get to fight Grom
Why even call it Warlords of Draenor if all of the warlord fights are pathetic besides Blackhand.

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>>388250195
Do you not know that pic related happen or what?

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>>388278940
>trusting nu-blizz
>trusting this dev team AT ALL
must feel pretty good to hold stocks in blizzard, I hear they've been pretty profitable these past few years.

The marketing and initial presentation of MoP was objectively awful. The fact that it had good content in subsequent patches doesn't change that.
The entire intro experience boiled down to "OMG LOOK AT HOW CHINESE WE ARE LOL WACKY PANDAS" with absolutely nothing going for it. The leveling zones were shit and the 5mans were abysmal, by far the worst 5 mans in the game.
It's hardly a surprise that so many people dropped that shit before it got good, it wasn't until Throne of Thunder that MoP stopped being fucking awful. The fact that the ToT patch was fantastic is actually a shame, because a large portion of players who justifiably quit the game never got to experience it because of Blizzard's absolute failure in the early part of the expansion.

>>388279141
>WoD
>MoP
>Not nu-Blizz
>Thinking this dev team will be on the next expansion

WoW has been dying since WotLK, Blizzard just wanted to milk.

>>388247435
Fuck you that was a fantastic expansion, especially considering that it was sandwiched between WoD and Cata.

>>388279312
MoP was not the same dev team as Legion, but the MoP dev team initially worked on some of WoD before Rob Pardo dipped the fuck out
This is why class design in WoD was some what good, because that dev team knew at the very least what people wanted out of their classes unless you played shadow priest or ret pally
and when I said nu-blizz, I probably should've said the Legion/WoD dev team. I really don't feel like playing the game anymore if these people are going to keep shoving their RNG timegate pruning gimmicks down my fucking throat.

>>388279326
TF2 has been dying since the Meet the Pyro update. Yet neither game is dead.

>>388279654

TF2 compared to its peak is dead.

WoW is the same.

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>>388279267
>The leveling zones were shit
What a shit fucking opinion. I didn't even like the xpac that much but Dread Wastes is probably the best zone they've ever made. Jade Forest and Valley of the Four Winds were both phenomenal as well

>>388279775
>Third top played game on Steam
>Dead

>>388279780
>Hahahaha go kick vegetables over a hill so the wacky VERMEN dont eat them hahahaha

>>388266521
Nope, it's getting fucked up by Old God shit because having a major human nation besides Stormwind isn't a thing that can happen. Besides Dalaran, I guess, but that's been portrayed as more of a "muh magic" sort of thing regardless of race at this point.

>Lordaeron: SCOURGED.COM
>Stromgarde: Hole in the ground surrounded by recently killed dead folks
>Alterac: Abandoned a while ago, only ogres and bitter nobles turned thieves remain
>Gilneas: The land is plagued, but the people still live. They could make a comeback
>Theramore: Nuked across all timelines to show off Garrosh's badly written character development and to send Jaina down a similarly badly written path of character development.

>>388247435
whats wrong with the idea of going to asia land

>>388279841
Its about as absurd as calling WoW dead even though its still the most played MMO on the market by a decent margin.

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>>388279859
>ummm it's called WARcraft lmao where is my SERIOUS story with walrus people and the day that deathwing came (lmao those memes were so funny)
Sorry you can't enjoy a lighthearted adventure, faggot. Besides. did you forget that the storyline ended with the wall being breached and the pandaren nearly being wiped out?

Ironically Pandaria was only worse than Wrath and BC

>>388280069
It's not a "lighthearted adventure" it's tedious busywork to justify padding out time until level cap. If it didn't happen at all it would make no difference.
And nobody gave a fuck what happened to the pandas except a minority of furfags so that's not exactly a good point.

>>388279859
The story in every zone in pandaria was serious as fuck and they all basically end in disaster, and you choose to harp on basically the only zone on the continent that was kind of laid-back

>>388280069
This. I'm so tired of the end of the world shit that happens every expansion.

>>388279002
Exactly this. No joke, I felt the exact same way.

>Kargath looks like a thrash metal head
>fuck yes
>he's going to be rekking shit left and right
>dies as first boss of a raid
>Ner'zhul is a boss in a regular dungeon
>u wot m8
>Kilrogg randomly goes evil
>forget he exists
>Gul'dan escapes because reasons
>Grom, despite starting a genocidal war (and being stupid enough to try to invade Azeroth too) gets off completely scott free and proclaims they saved Draenor

What the fuck were they thinking?

Say what you want about fucking kung-fu pandas, but that shit was still better than Twatlords of Draenor. Trust me, by the end of MoP I was sick to fucking death of seeing asian architecture and asian themed music in every fucking zone. We fucking get it, pandas are from China.

Hell, MoP introduced the fucking Hozen, a race of complete retards. It was like an entire race of Jar Jar Binks. Not to mention the Virmin or whatever the fuck they were called, they were just as bad.

And even then it was better than fucking WoD because at least it still had some content

>>388280219
>WoW
>Story

>>388274572
I mean, Legion's essentially the "In case of subscriber loss, break glass" expansion, in that a bunch of shit people wanted (not that it was pulled off well or a good idea) was thrown in. It totally makes sense that Demon Hunters would finally show up. But more importantly, I'm a big fan of how over the top edgy they are. It gets so bad it wraps back around to being unironically entertaining.

Can we ban WoW threads already? It isn't even a game, it's as much of a game as Candy Crush and that's not allowed here either.

>>388280185
Holy shit you're such a cynical faggot. It was a questing zone the same as any other, except it was a welcome break from the exhausting doom and gloom of the previous expansions. What the fuck is "tedious busywork"? Do you not enjoy leveling unless HOOOOLLYYY SHIT ARTHAS IS HERE! WOW SO EPIC! OMG DEATHWING OMGGGG

>>388280321
It's too bad it didn't work and the game has less subs than ever.

>>388280321
>Introduce Demon Hunters
>Make them completely fucking terrible for everything
>And also the most boring class in the game

Death Knights are unironically the show stealing best class of Legion.
>Go around resurrecting dead heroes
>Murder and resurrect a bunch of dragon babies
>Create a Scourge 2.0
>Even have your own Lich boss in Amal'thuzad
>The Lich King doing shady shit everywhere

>>388280185
>If it didn't happen at all it would make no difference.
You could make the same argument about literally every single questing zone in vanilla, most zones in BC (nagrand, blades edge, terokkar etc...), most zones in northrend, and every zone in cata except maybe twilight highlands. WoD was actually the first expansion that gave every zone a serious story event at the conclusion. I fail to see how any zone that doesn't deal with the immediate end of the world is a shit zone. Most zones in vanilla and even BC hardly had storylines at all outside of some overarching themes and no one cared

>>388248540
"Man that shit I just ate was disgusting but at least it wasn't as bad as that hunk of shit I had for dinner last week"

WoW is shit and died after WotLK. I want underage/casuals to get the fuck off my board.

>>388280185
>>388279859
kill youself nigger, valley of the four winds was peaceful as fuck and exactly what WoW needed after the abortion that was cataclysm. learn to how relax you ADD freak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNQDpkIf7Vg&t=2s

>>388280542
more like
>introduce demon hunters
>realize that you are creatively bankrupt and can't actually come up with any original spells or ideas for abilities
>ok... just-... i got it... just take all the spells from other classes.... and put them on demon hunters...
>somehow still, the class manages to be no where as interesting as the classes these abilities were stolen from
>woah dude you can DOUBLE JUMP and DASH fast gameplay dude...

>>388247435
Furries have money

>>388247435
MoP was unironically one of the best expansions because it made it's own good lore and characters instead of just borrowing from WC1-3 like almost every other expac did.

>>388280542
>>And also the most boring class in the game
Not when hunters and warlocks exist.

>>388280723
>People actually liked that garbage kazoo music

>>388280780
Old Gods are uninspired lovecraft knockoffs and CORRUPTION is still stupid. Not to mention how badly they butchered Garrosh.

>>388250553
go home /pol/
MoP was just casualizing it further for a younger audience, in a more cartoonish manner.

>>388280909
That shit was bad but the Mogu, Mantis and Pandas were good.

>>388280795
>where's my epic latin chanting?!?!?

>>388281031
Not even Latin. Gibberish mixed with Latin.

>>388274572
Yes they fucking stole my demonology form, fuck demon hunters. I want my big buff form back.

>>388281205
I dunno man.
I think they really nailed the class fantasy of being a true master summoner by letting you summon four mini imps and two felhunter puppies.

>>388274768
How are the modern death knights in legion? What became of their specs?

>>388281205
Fuck them for making demo bad, who thought DE was a good design decision?

>>388281205
you can't steal what belongs to you in the first place, retarded commie

>>388281414
>four imps

Doing it literally wrong. You should have 30+ out during CD's.

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>>388247435
>better than WoD and Legion
>better than Cata

That's the real tragedy.

>>388281414
I honestly said if anything not to hit him, but those types of people don't listen to me. I have like 60 notifications on facebook, and I'm not fucking checking that shit lol... no way.

>>388281423
Frost is still braindead, but Unholy is cool and strong and Blood is great. Also they have by far the best class storylines. They completely stole the thunder from Demon Hunters in Legion, actually.

>>388280909
This.

One of the most annoying and immersion breaking things about WoW for me is simply just how creatively bankrupt they are.

>Thorim = Thor
>Odyn = Odin
>Yogg-Saron = Yog-Sothoth
>Freya = Freyja
>Loken = Loki
etc

There's a difference between taking inspiration from something and just completely ripping off a character and shoving them into a game, or taking names and altering them slightly.

>>388281423
UH became a better caster pet class than warlocks are right now.
Frost is spammy but still not that bad in comparison to other melee classes.
Not sure how Blood is doing at the moment.

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>>388249183
it's a sad fate. i miss it but i know it will never be the same.

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>>388280278

>Fly to China
>Walk around
>WTF IS ALL THIS CHINESE ARCHITECTURE?
>Walk to Japan
>UGH WE GET IT, YOU'RE ASIAN

That's beyond the most retarded shit I've read in this entire thread. I bet youre going to complain that Durotar is full of spiked roofs, and you want to walk away from all that so you walk a zone over into Northern Barrens and complain The Crossroads has even more spiked roofs and fences.

A lot of the story elements and races in MoP were justified for being what they are. Mogu were assholes because they were quite literally made to be assholes, and Pandas were a foil to that, and with that, the Sha were counteracted by all the peace. It made for a good reason for "stuff" to happen in Pandaria.

>>388282601

Well, apparently Illidan stole a planet full of demons and parked it next door. That seems like a development of some import. I hear the next expansion is going to be a lot less otherworldly invasion apocalypse-y, though-something to do with the seas? Maybe the naga will show up again, and you can be pirates.

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Draenei women > all other women, even Anduin Wrynn knows they're the best.

>>388280278
>I was sick to fucking death of seeing asian architecture and asian themed music in every fucking zone. We fucking get it, pandas are from China.

Do you run around America screaming and raging about how American everything looks and yell at random passersby "I GET IT YOU'RE AMERICAN STOP IT!!!"?

Pandaland is actually pretty cool by itself, would have been a great expansion if the best expansion (WotLK) didn't ruin the game toward the end of it's life span with dungeon-finder.

>>388282656
Pandaria isn't China you fucking mongoloid

Just because a fictional fantasy race is based off a Chinese creature doesn't mean their entire culture has to revolved around China. That's fucking retarded and completely lacking in creativity.

>>388280278
>go to Plaguelands
>WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH ALL THE UNDEADS HERE
>got to Outland
>OK I GET IT DEMONS ARE BAD FUCK OFF BLIZZARD GOD
>go to Northrend
>WHY ARE ALL THESE VRYKUL VIKINGS? WHY AREN'T THERE ANY VICTORIAN ENGLAND VRYKUL GOD THIS IS STUPID
>go to Deepholm
>OK I GET IT THERE ARE ROCKS UNDERGROUND FUCK OFF WITH YOUR AGENDA BLIZZARD

>>388283163
>Just because a fictional fantasy race is based off an American creature doesn't mean their entire culture has to revolved around America
>Just because a fictional fantasy race is based off an England creature doesn't mean their entire culture has to revolved around England
>Just because a fictional fantasy race is based off an African creature doesn't mean their entire culture has to revolved around Africa
>Just because a fictional fantasy race is based off an Australian creature doesn't mean their entire culture has to revolved around Australia

So tell us what other cultures you wanted there to be in the China analogue? Some white trash rednecks in trailers? Russian troops partolling the snowy areas? Jews in the marketplaces?

>>388283163
Orc culture revolves entirely around spikes and savage shit. Draenei culture revolves around pink crystals, Worgen have that gothic shit, I don't know what else you expected. Every race has predictable architecture and landscape.

>>388282656
>>388283163
Since both you retards lack understanding, let me explain it this way.

There is little visual variety in architecture in Pandaria, it makes everything look and feel samey and boring. For comparison, look at Panda/Mogu buildings and Orc/Tauren buildings. The former is largely the same while the latter, despite being both tribal races, have clear visual distinction. This isn't fucking rocket science.

>>388283498
>The former is largely the same
spoiler alert: because the pandaren are still mostly living in buildings built during the Mogu Empire, because they lack ambition to develop their own culture after getting cucked by Shaohao to stop the Sha

>>388247435
bc china

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I love the hip wiggle and ass flexing for the female characters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCr7y4SLhck

>>388283630
That's stupid and doesn't make my point any less valid.

>All the architecture looks the same and the expansion lacks visual variety as a result
>"b-b-b-b-but muh lore!"

>>388283870
you might just be a giant pleb. I recommend suicide

>>388283870
At this point you're raging for the sake of it.

>>388283931
>Someone vehemently defending something even Blizzard has admitted was a flaw calling others plebs

Sounds more like you're some chink expat who can't handle the fact that people don't like chink shit.

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>>388283937
>calmly explaining my reason for disliking something
>raging

>>388283782

What about it?

>>388284076
Blizzard admitted having the China place have Chinese architecture was a flaw? Link, please.

>>388284102
Your reasons are retarded. "The China place looks like China, it makes me so mad!" is retarded.

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>>388284076
>Blizzard has admitted was a flaw

>>388284389
That's not what I said, I think you're the one that's retarded.

If you had any sort of reading comprehension in the slightest you'd understand what I meant when I said "All the architecture looks the same and the expansion lacks visual variety as a result." It's a very clear statement. Everything looks the same = boring visually.

It would be like if all of the Broken Isles were Night Elf/Nightborne architecture instead of the variety we got (Vrykul, Tauren, etc)

Your inability to understand this makes you the retarded one.

>>388284432
The hell is wrong with you beast-fuckers.

>>388284776
Actually your inability to back up your statement that Blizzard admitted a mistake is making you seem retarded

>>388283087
>Do you run around America screaming and raging about how American everything looks and yell at random passersby "I GET IT YOU'RE AMERICAN STOP IT!!!"?

you're really autistic aren't you

>>388284776
>lacks visual variety

Did we play the same game? There's plenty of visual variety in MoP. Pandas aren't the only inhabitants and there's all the biome tropes sans volcanic.

>>388285045
I never said Blizzard admitted a mistake, that was someone else you drooling retard

>>388285083
I'm just talking buildings here, it's why I use "architecture" rather than blanket labeling every zone. The zones themselves are pretty decent.

>>388281554
>>388281594
God damn they simplified shit, almost too much. They could have kept icy touch at least.

>>388285313
That's just Frost. Unholy and Blood are more complex than they've been since Wrath.

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>>388247435
>Anyone who has a negative view of Pandashit are wrath babies
>Somehow Pandafags have the audacity to rag on legion and WoD, fully aware MOP was infinitely worse

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>>388286048
>MOP was infinitely worse

>>388247435
So I have a question for my WoW friends. If I purchase the game RIGHT NOW, can I somehow get into the older raids, such as from WotLK or MoP, through the raid finder or older content like that?

>>388285536
Why does the wiki refer to scourge strike when it isn't listed as an ability?

>>388286409
You can solo all that content.

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>>388286364
>anime fag thinks pandashit was best
Color me surprised

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>>388286048
>Implying WoD isn't the worse expansion
>Implying Legion is better than anything beside said worse expansion

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>>388286550
B-but I want to do it with people at my side. I dont want to fight the old bosses by myself

>>388286596
Explain how WoD is better than MoP. Without throwing a shitfit over the fact Pandaren exist or how it's a China-based country.

When I was younger and had no money, I watched the cinematic trailer for this and fucking fell in love. I couldn't buy it and it was the only time I've ever cared about PC other than free to play runescape. Had to settle with playing the game I got for gifts on my PlayStation (grew up on that shit and sega, it was good but I alwaysed wondered)

It's been years since, I'm older, have a decent laptop and still think about this expansion and still not impressed but everything else that's come out since. I'm very settled into the PS4 gaming and haven't touched PC games ever since around the time that the pandaria trailer came out.

If wanted to play this and ONLY this. Without playing too much of the OG game or have to pay for other expansions, should I go ahead and get it?

I have like re most basics understanding of the world and runescape has taught me well the ways of the MMORPG (I'd like to think that anyway) but I'm the type of person who loves the shit out of games like Skyrim for the lore and exploration. Can Mist of Pandaria satisfy these aspects of gaming I appreciate the most?

>>388284790
I want to fuck Panda

>>388286415
Because you're looking at a shit wiki.

>>388286853

Anon, if you can gather enough people of appropriate level who are willing to run through dungeons and raids for gear and experience that's rapidly outstripped by quest rewards across the street, then clearly, you should be ruling a country or running your own cult.

>>388286965
If you're going to get WoW you should really get all of the expansions. It totally revolves around end-game, if you are just doing old level 90 mop stuff you are most likely going to be the only one there.

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Why are Pandaren so cute?

>>388287749
They are basically big teddy bears.

>>388287749
Cuddles.

Though I don't think they'd want a regular human like me.

That makes me sad

>>388286965
The game doesn't really work that way. If you get the game you automatically have every expansion up to Warlords of Draenor, which came after Pandaria.

That said, a max level Legion character can go back and do any of the Pandaria content solo, including the highest difficulty of the raids. There's also nothing stopping you from doing all of the quests in the Pandaria zones if you like, as the only thing that's been removed is the legendary cloak quest line. Oh, and the Darkspear rebellion.

>>388287749
>female dwarves have been in the game since the beginning
>hardly anyone plays them and the general consensus is that they're ugly and fat
>Pandas arrive
>everyone wanks about how hot fem pandas are even though they have the same body type and same dumbass retard faces
Furries will find literally anything attractive as long as they throw some extra hair on it.
Disgusting.

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>>388287952
They'd find smooth skin exotic

>>388288235
They also need animal heads, paws, and cocks, human stuff makes them gag.

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>>388288262
>takes a serious moment to contemplate free willingly becoming a pandaria chick's slave.

Damn it, these are not healthy thoughts. I mean more power to the dudes into that but I'm too vanilla for that lifestyle.

And yet...

>keeps thinking it over

God fucking damn it.

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>>388288235
>>>388288235
>>388288348
My fetish is human on anthro that's all there is to it

>>388274383

kek

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>>388247435
MoP was a rather good expansion IN TERMS OF ENDGAME CONTENT. Raids were really good mechanically. Also, the PvP scene was at its best.

To all the people defending Wrath to be the best expansion LMAO kids. Wotlk was the beginning of the end by Blizzard Activsion. Game went to shit from there but wrathbabies can't admit they missed out Vanilla/TBC. MoP is disregarded because kung fu panda XD while pandas were part of warcraft games iirc (atleast the Panda brewmaster was a character in Dota).

I WANT TO FUCK A PANDAREN FEMALE GOD FUCKING DAMNIT

>>388281205
Reminder:
https://youtu.be/vX1dPTAQ5_U
>Warlocks are mushrooms
>Kept in the dark and fed shit

>>388289929
Would you take responsibility if she got pregnant?

>>388281205
Oh fuck off, Demon Form went against everything Demonology Warlocks are. We ENSLAVE demons, not become them.

>>388289576
I kinda liked MoP because it was shit not pre-established in Warcraft lore.
As WoTLK, BC, Legion, and especially WoD shows, whenever WoW delved into the actual lore of it's own universe it fucks up at every turn. In MoP they just made up new characters who had contained and satisfying stories. Lei Shen was a great raid boss, he had several quest zones pumping him up, had a full patch dedicated to him, and his story was tied up nicely when we defeated him. A good package. Whenever WoW works with it's own lore, they try to tie it in with old shit while ruining it, and never giving a satisfying conclusion (There must always be a lich king, Illidan didn't die lol, lets go to the past in another dimension, lets rewrite how the legion work entirely to make a new expansion)

>>388290256
Not him but it had a cool anime style "fuse with your minion" connotation that no longer exists.

Remember that demo was supposed to be "half and half" because beast master was already the "all the strength in the minion" spec all those years ago.

>>388290354
>cool anime style

Stopped reading there. I command minions to do my bidding and send them out to pummel foes while I tear apart their souls with shadow and flame. Fusion-dancing is for those fools and weaklings who let themselves be taken by demons.

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Where's my playable seamen

>>388280603
That only works if MoP was actually bad, instead of just meme'ing that it's bad.

Warlocking tanking was the most fun I've had in the game since vanilla pvp.

>>388290256
You are utilizing a demon's power without yourself without succumbing to it. That is everything Demonology warlocks are.

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>>388290591
I only want it if I can be these ones.

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>>388290825
>power within* yourself