Remember to remove the time capacitor on these things. my original

Bumping. It's a super easy fix: just open it up, twist the fucker off and wipe up the acid.

what the fuck are you talking about friend

>>388226371
But I have a 1.6. Aren't I already safe?

>>388226892
Xboxes from about 2001 to 2003 (revisions 1.0 to 1.5) contain a really shitty capacitor that inevitably breaks, leaking acid everywhere and corroding the motherboard. You can remove it, breaking the RTC but saving the console.

That's just an old wives' tale.

When I opened my xbox up, the capacitor had just begun to show signs of corrosion, but luckily it hadn't leaked onto the mobo yet. Just snip it off with some pliers, lads.

>>388227046
nah mine was 1.6 to (i think it was, the manufacture date was '04). all original xboxs are ticking time bombs. the only difference is that people who have 1.6 are even more fucked because the xbox wont function without the capacitor.

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>>388226892
this thing, take it out and clean up the spot

>>388226371
I just want to go back in time to better days, about when the console was manufactured.

Will this time capacitor allow me to do that?

what's the best thing to use for cleaning the spot after removal if there's corrosion?

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>>388227082
>Proceeds to urinate in the pool, turning the water blue, while everyone screams and runs out of the pool

>>388226371
How do I tell what gen my Xboxes are

>>388229393
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=367210

For those unaware, capacitors can hold charge for an extremely long amount of time. They can also discharge extremely quickly.

>>388226371
What does the capacitor do?

>>388229580
It's for the clock.

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>>388229710
Do other consoles like PS2 and CG suffer from this??

>>388230337
Pretty sure they used cmos batteries rather than a capacitor for the clock.

>>388230337
Not that I know. The only other console with bad caps I've heard of was PC Engine.

>>388229710
My Xbox has never saved the time after I unplugged it and it's before version 1.6. Does this mean it's already had the capacitor removed? I only bought it about 4-5 years ago

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>>388226371
>buying an XBox
>supporting Microjew

>>388230679
if the capacitor was removed it would forget the time every power off.

>what is the delete system 32 of xbox

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>>388230778
>buying a secondhand xbox after they haven't been in production for over a decade
>supporting microjew

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>>388230778

>>388230937
That would be something along the lines of removing the DVD drive to make it lighter. The fucking thing won't boot if the drive is dead or missing, bravo Microsoft.

>>388228750
No, for that you need a flux capacitor.

>>388231037
Doesn't it work if it's chipped?

>>388231258
Yeah. Also, the HDD had an encryption key and you couldn't just simply replace them.

>>388231463
Can't you fix that if you have the EEPROM key?

>>388231589
Yes.

>>388230802
Good, I'm alright then

>>388230802
So they removed it after a whiile in production? I got mine is 06 and it always forgot the time when unplugged. Though my Xbox's disc tray wont come out.

>>388234002
He said power-off, meaning whenever you turn off your xbox. Fuck you guys are dumb.

>>388234207
Just checked and whenever I power it off it asks for the time

>>388226371
I haven't used it in years because my controller literally melted, but recently i turned it on to check and it seems to work normally, does it mean I'm safe considering the time passed? How can i tell what version it is, must be one of the later ones because it came with an S controller instead of the Duke

>>388234424
Than it has been removed.

>>388230802
Shieet i must be safe then (i'm >>388234548 btw). I did always wonder why that damn clock didn't work, sometimes it messed with my saves as games loaded up random files thinking they were the most recent. My uncle must've removed it when he modded the console, was this a known issue back then?

>>388234548
Nope, these things are a time bomb and they could deal enough damage that it bricks at any time.

What the fuck? I just did this and now my Xbox isn't turning on. Seriously, what the fuck, /v/??

>>388228750
Yes, but only if you eat it

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>>388235758
How dumb do you have to be to fuck this up? Literally just follow one of the many guides on the internet.

>>388235758
you should have checked if it was a 1.6

i just hope to god microsoft manages to put every worthwhile original xbox game on xbone and hopefully it doesnt emulate like shit unlike the 360

>>388226371
Bought a second hand one recently and upgraded to a 80gb HDD, then noticed the clock never worked. Guess I'm safe then.

My cap had leaked a little but did no damage and was easily cleaned up. My Xbox still works ok. 1st model Xbox too. It is no myth. That cap WILL leak not a matter of IF but WHEN and how much.

The only issue I got with my original first model Xbox is that sometimes it needs a few attempts to boot up. (I assume its a PSU issue of some kind) But once it gets going it works until I unplug it.

Keep the original drive somewhere hidden and safe and make some clones too. An old 80gb IDE lying around will do the trick. Get unleashed X on it.

>>388227046
>>388227304
1.6's have quality clock caps which shouldn't fail like mad, but still will before your average cap. The fact that the cap needs replacing when it's really 100% useless coupled with a few games not running right, make 1.6 the worst model. Unless you're in it for a fancy case, like a Crystal or Halo Xbox

>>388237101
Another console with an annoying quirk is the Dreamcast.
If it gets into a reset boot loop its likely the damn pins near the front have been misaligned over time from heat distortion.
Putting them back in place sorts it for a good while though.

>>388237427
I just had to do this with my Dreamcast, it's working like a charm for now, I also had to tweak the laser pot

>>388230679
Are the security seals on the bottom damaged? If not, then your clock cap spewed acid all over your board over 4-5 years ago and has slowly been eating away at it

>>388228023
Wouldn't removing pieces from it just destroy the thing? Sorry if the question's dumb, but I'm completely illiterate when it comes to this.

>>388237728
This piece is non-essential. It's like a battery that keeps the internal clock ticking when you remove the AC cord.
Except this battery spews acid everywhere, so you better remove it.

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Knew about this like 6 months ago but finally got around to removing it.

I'm mad I waited so long because it was much easier than it seemed. My Xbox still runs after I put it all back together so I'm happy. The area surrounding the capacitor looked like it had a stain around it, I'm guessing that was the electrolytic fluid? I swabbed at it real good with rubbing alcohol.

>found an xbox that was nearly unplayed, still in the box with all the manuals and plastic at a garage sale
>I don't want to fuck up the stickers to remove the capacitor because it's just so pristine

How do I save it without messing it up? (it's not a 1.6)

>>388237794
>This piece is non-essential. It's like a battery that keeps the internal clock ticking when you remove the AC cord.

Also, when the cap is working normally it only hold a charge for like a week or some shit. So it's just there for the convenience of not setting the clock when you move to a new apartment.

>>388237983
The Xbox is a really nice console to get into. It's so big that everything is just conveniently laid out.
The Dreamcast is also practical to open up and service as well, which is impressive for how compact it is. Sony consoles are hell though.

>just snap a capacitor off like a retard instead of desoldering and replacing it
it's like you faggots have 0 skills

>>388238043
>How do I save it without messing it up?

My preferred method to cleanly open it up is to take a sharp knife and cut a X into the 2 stickers you need punch through. The flaps of the X will get pushed in when you run the screw back in and it'll look neat and tidy.

yeah but I don't feel like opening up the thing

Reminder that CxBx is actually becoming a viable Xbox emu.

holy shit don't do it, it releases mustard gas
thanks a lot OP

>>388238364
Deadass it took me 20 minutes and I don't know jack shit about electronics

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>>388238480
/ourguy/ is literally giving us og xbox emulation on pc

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>>388238362
>cutting the sticker
I can't do it.

>>388238280

>disassembling a fat PS3 to clean it

Holy shit, that fan and heatsink assembly was designed by autists.

My xbox is weird. It says 2004-08-23 which would make it 1.6 but I just checked and it seems like the previous owner has opened it up. The seal is broken and the screw is visible. When I unplug it from the outlet then reboot the system it always asks me to reset the time. If its always plugged in it keeps the time. Is that normal? Or did the previous guy tinker with it?

>>388238649

Is he? Source?

>>388238693

Normal. Both of my Xboxs do this. It probably means the batteries are going to blow and kill them at any time.

>>388238664
I just drove a screwdriver right through them.

>>388238684
>trying to install an E3 flasher on a launch slim
Literally got it the first day it was out, but apparently it's got some fucked up motherboard with the nor chip in a weird place that's hardly documented anywhere. Had to twist the clip around a funny way to get it to work. Couldn't even close the thing properly when I was done.

>>388238329
>it's like you faggots have 0 skills

I do manual labor for a living. My hands are nowhere near steady enough to do fine solder work nowadays. I could beat the shit out of the guys I've paid to mod my systems though, so win some lose some

>>388238839

I haven't opened my slim, but I imagine it's still probably less fucked than a fat.

That said, I've had it for 5 years when I bought it new, so it's probably well past the due date for a cleaning. I'm just fucking lazy about learning a new assembly.

>my xbox already doesn't keep time, that means I'm safe!

No, it means your capacitor has already destroyed itself and now it's working on destroying everything else while you wait.

>>388238820

Alright so lemme get this straight, if the time is consistent even after unplugging it, you're technically safer from these aforementioned issues?

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>>388238364
im such a lazy sack of shit i would rather buy one that already has it removed even though it probably will cost more. too bad barely anybody knows about this problem, or nobody cares.

>>388239204
>Alright so lemme get this straight, if the time is consistent even after unplugging it, you're technically safer from these aforementioned issues?
There is no "safe" unless you have personally removed it (or if you have a 1.6)

>>388238693
That's early enough that may not be a 1.6, the date is just a general indicator. All 2004's are YMMV. If you're already soft modded you can just boot up XBMC and it should tell you what version you're on

>>388239204

For now.

If you unplug your Xbox, and then plug it back in and you have to reset your clock, it means it's now a timebomb.

Granted, mine has been a timebomb for 5 years now and is still running fine otherwise, so I have no idea how likely it is to kill your Xbox in the short term.

What does the electrolytic fluid look like? And does vinegar work as well as rubbing alc?

>>388239365
I occasionally sell soft modded Xboxes on Craigslist preloaded with games. I always clean up the guts. I charge $200-$250 for a system though

>>388238058
Oretty retarded of them to use a capacitor instead of just using a watch battery

>>388239589
>does vinegar work?

I don't think using one acid to clean another acid is the best way to go about this.

>>388226371
Too late for me. Wonder if I can still sell the games, tho.

>>388239026
For 10+ years?

>>388240025
We use fat to clean fat

>>388239787
>picked up a pile of cheap "untested" xboxes and TSOP modded them
>not sure how to go further and make normies/idiots want to buy them

Do people buying modded xboxes even care about VGA mods or digital audio? Do they just want halo installed?

>>388240435
Soap is not fat, soap is when alkali meets fat.

>>388240025
Apparently they're opposite types or some shit. But it's pointless, by the time most people are pulling their Xbox apart the leaked acid is already inert. So just pour some alcohol in there and swab everything up

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>>388239447
Not sure if I have it soft modded (I recently acquired the xbox). I'm still wondering why it's already been opened. I might just have to dive into it myself even thought my knowledge of hardware is short to none. At least I know now that the date is arbitrary.
>I'll soft mod it first to check the version.

>>388239506
Yeah, I think I'll have to just look into the version and spec out what could be the best way to preserve the working console. Otherwise just gotta hope and pray.

I was about to go and complete GTA:SA 100% on the original xbox, You guys think this will be the death of my machine?

>>388240768
>Do they just want halo installed?

Nah, they want Mario. 100's of Mario roms. The people buying off you on Craigslist are retarded. If the DVD drive still seems good you don't even need to give them a HD upgrade, just burn a single DVD with some emulators and games.

>>388241356
THE HORROR!

Friendly reminder that it's not just the time capacitor that can kill your Xbox but also the disc drive. If the disc drive dies you're fucked because the system refuses to boot up if it's not working.
The only solution is to hack your Xbox, replace your hard drive with a larger capacity drive, set up a FTP to your PC to load your games and shit on the console and NEVER EVER USE THE DISC DRIVE AFTER THAT.

>>388241356
F

>>388241337
What about the dashboard?

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>>388242750

>>388242552
The customer doesn't know or care what they get. I install XBMC because it's my personal preference

>>388242750
That doesn't look bad. It's just a small leak and dust everywhere. Dust is to be expected. Cleaning up a leak which has spread 4 inches in every direction is what's bad

So just so I'm not mistaking anything, the 1.6 models have no way to fix them since they can't function without the capacitor?
And on that note, how can I tell what version my xbox is?

>>388243819
>So just so I'm not mistaking anything, the 1.6 models have no way to fix them since they can't function without the capacitor?
yeah
>how can I tell what version my xbox is?
if its 2004 or later its 1.6.

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>>388228793
Q-tip and white vinegar.

>>388243819

Look at the manufacturing date, that will give you an idea.

01/2001–10/2002 - 1.0 - Hungary
11/2002–04/2003 - 1.1 - Hungary, Mexico
05/2003–03/2004 - 1.2–1.5 - China
04/2004–? - 1.6 - China, Taiwan

>>388238280
Not all of them.
The PSP is very modular.

>>388226371
Thanks OP, you saved my XBOX

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>>388245397
Dang, hopefully it still works. It worked 6 months ago just fine.

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>>388244467
>not isopropyl and kimtech wipes
Fucking amateurs.

>>388237794
Oh so if mine always asks for the time when I unplug and replug I don't have to worry about it?

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>>388245942
50/50 white vinegar and water. The vinegar (acid) is the chemical opposite of the alkali (base).
After neutralizing that shit, you can clean off the vinegar with isopropyl alcohol anon.

>>388246246
No, that means it's already broken so it has probably begun leaking.

>>388246535
there's no revision that doesn't have it?

>>388246631
1.6 capacitors don't leak.

>>388246757
how do I check which one I have? I'd rather not open it up if I don't have to.

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>>388244449
So I just checked and my xbox says it was manufactured November 2004.
Do I have no choice other than to just wait for it to kick the bucket?

I got a crystal xbox what do

>>388237728
A lot of manufacturers of electronics cheap-out and use crappy capacitors. I'm not sure if this capacitor is really used to by the Xbox's real-tie clock but, even if it weren't, a person could at least replace the low-quality capacitors with good quality ones from Nichicon, Ruby, or Panasonic.

>>388246821
It's leaking, so it's obviously not a 1.6. Remove that thing unless you want your Xbox to die.

Isn't better to just get an Xbox One S (or X) and have all the X1, X360 game ins just one console?

>>388246874

It's possible you have a 1.6 but as an anon mentioned earlier, it's YMMV. You can soft mod your console with XBMC and find out your version that way.

>>388246874
im pretty sure you can still remove and replace it with another time capacitor.

>>388247193
its not every game though

>>388247193
No because the xbox one doesn't have xbox backwards compatibility yet, and when it does it won't be all games, and that's even hoping it doesn't have emulation like the 360 did, which was garbage.

>>388246874
You can replace the cap

Is there anyway to tell if it's out without opening the system? I have an old hard-modded xbox and i mean I hope the dude removed it when he was in there (it was a gift to my SO from thier father when they were younger) I ask because i don't have a torx 20. also does anyone have a like a chart of all the tools needed to work on all consoles? it'd be nice to buy a bunch of these tools for situations like this and genral maintanince.

>>388246886
Nothing. You have a 99.9% chance of having a 1.6. It should be fine. If the cap ever fails though you'll need to replace it, and the cap isn't exactly common. But they are available, I think replacements cost like $10 or something

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>>388226371
I have no idea where my Xbox is though. Shame because it was a great little (well massive in size) console and the emulation is still ropey.

can't you just remove it afterwards?

>>388248747
I don't need to replace it, do i?

>>388247976
>Is there anyway to tell if it's out without opening the system?

Maybe? Take a look at several of the photos in this thread to familiarize yourself with where it sits, it's usually near the first controller port. Then peer in the side vents with a fleshlight and hope to get lucky

>>388249315
Don't fix things that aren't broken?

>>388249473
Looks like we are good.

I'd still like a list of all the tools needed to open various consoles to whip up a info graph. maybe I'll go ask on /hbg/.