Why are there so few drill sergeants in video games? Why do they

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johnson is more apone from aliens

Because you have to actually be there.

They get about 3 or 4 hours of sleep and are still balls to the wall. You don't have to worry about inspections,marching,drills,PT,tests etc.

No game could simulate having a God damn chair thrown at me in Great Lakes.

>>388221578
They are professional voice actors. They are the biggest bitches on the planet.

>>388222627

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>>388222582
this

just having some digital nigger in a campaign hat yell at you through your headphones isnt going to convince anyone

>>388221578
>drill sergeant
>pic is of a drill instructor

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>>388221578

>guy on the left with no shower shoes

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>>388223879

It's time for bulkhead/line for the rest of the platoon until he finds them then!

>>388223879
Foot's in bandages

I heard the Marines got PC recently because recruits keep getting their poor feewings hurt. Is that true.

>>388221578
MoH Pacific Assault has pretty much you covered in that area - doing that again would be boring

>>388223879
looks like he's on limited light duty or whatever the marine equivalent is.

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>>388221578
>Tfw in Marines currently

>we had a talk about transgenders and women and how they need their own special treatment

CORPORAL SHEPHERD HUH?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLB_Ma8WoWk

>>388224121
I think they got cards they can hold out if they're under excessive social stress
Also, edge of the hat at closest, no physical contact, no direct insults or swearing

Don't be suprised if they 'overlook' a few of those ruled

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>>388221578

40 men getting the utter dogshit smoked out of them on a concrete floor for 6 hours, butt ass naked after a shower drill, while 3 other grown men walk around yelling at them about how fucking worthless they are as human beings and that they should regret that their mothers didn't swallow them, because 1 guy didn't shower in under 30 seconds.

It's not something a video game can replicate.

>>388224486
Yeah, this is what I was talking about. Newer generations of recruits bitching to their CO about everything.

>>388221578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LksYTLJpVE

>>388224121
I heard they mostly ignore those rules with all men groups and nobody has the nuts to complain anyways.

Video games are mostly about power fantasies and real life interaction with drill sergeants is the complete opposite of that.

>>388221578
Because people will get their feelings hurt :'(

>>388224121
theyre going to get their poor bodies killed and maimed if they arent prepared for stressful situations and the realities of war
its fucked up people can even make those changes

>>388224724
That "no physical contact" law has been around since the 80's. But "baaaw don't cuss at me" is retarded.

>>388224121
>>388224916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkt1vAX0MRM

>>388221578
Unless you've actually been to boot camp you'll never know what it's like.

>>388221578
https://youtu.be/LuBhNeLytXI
Nostalgic.

>>388224662
The best drill sarge ever.

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>>388221578
You see, faggot. That's a fucking DI, a DRILL INSTRUCTOR, not some faggot ass Army Drill Seargent. Get it right. Don't EVER besmirch my beloved Marine Corps. Piece of shit.

>>388224554
I imagine the bullets fired from the guys on the right must be so much more effective than the guys on the left.

>>388225273
Hey Marine anon, is this true:
>>388224121

>>388225016
>"no physical contact" law
Is it taken seriously?
We have this law in my country too, but it turns out there's plenty of ways to punch someone without leaving bruises and our sergeant seemed to know them all.
I'm from Russia, if you couldn't guess

>>388225273
Americans are embarrassing

>>388225370
>Drill instructor got chewed out by his superiors for calling one of the transdudes a faggot

yes it's true anon

>>388225329

>MPs
>doing anything other than hiding in the tree line pulling people over on post for going .0000001 miles an hour over the speed limit

>>388225470
Gay acceptance was a mistake.

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>>388225413
>Americans are embarrassing

Not as embarrassing as having your country ruled by muslims and being in constant fear of the next terrorist attack.

I just came back from the shooting range. You know why I can do that? Because I'm fucking free. So suck my big red white and blue shaft you fucking lime.

Not American here. What is even the point of this? Why demotivate and shit on people who willingly joined the army to protect their country? Seems counterproductive and pointless. Is this by design or are those drill guys just assholes that nobody can do anything about?

>>388225849
I reiterate: Americans are embarrassing.

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>>388221578
>tfw drill Sgt gets pissed and yell out the guy before you
>tfw your next not knowing if its your turn
>Cpt´n walks into the barrack

>>388225273
I'm gonna fuck your girl when the taliban shoots your dick off, crayon eater

>>388225860
I'd assume the idea is to instill discipline. Really it's only needed if you've got a bunch of shits you need to get into line.

>>388225860
To simulate stress and fatigue that you will experience in a war zone?

If you cry from having being yelled at then imagine how you'll react to your friend getting blown to pieces.

>>388225608
At one point the transgender dude needed a timeout to "dilate" and got excused during intense physical training.

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>>388221578

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>>388222582
DIs are a miracle of the universe

>>388225930
if it's really like in the movies then that's a bad way of instill discipline

>>388225982
this makes kinda sense

>>388221578

WHAT THE HELL DO YOU BOYS THINK THAT THIS IS ? FUCKING FAIRY LAND ? PULLING ON YOUR WEEWEES LIKE A PACK OF FUCKING FRUITS ?

>>388225860
if they break from just that, then they are useless in real combat
also to instill dicipline on any lazy fucktard that just think they can fuck around

> sergeants
> threatening

It's a shit rank.

>>388225860
Discipline. A soldier exists to complete orders from his superiors as quickly and efficiently and possible. Also builds up resistance to fatigue in ability to act in stressful conditions.
Also it builds a sense of camaraderie among the soldiers, since if someone fucks up everyone gets punished.
I'm not American, just someone who served in the army.

>>388225167
>Best drill sarge
>Not jamjars
You dun goof'ed famalam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoNwvwK6vHI

>>388221578
Someone make a webm of the MoH Pacific Assault DI

You know which one I mean

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>>388225860
>Why demotivate and shit on people who willingly joined the army to protect their country?

It's to make you into a disciplined and team oriented individual. If you think you should get golden blowjobs for signing up to join the military and get all butthurt all of a sudden when a scary black guy with a funny hat calls you names, you should reconsider why you signed up.

If you can't handle being called a fuckface when you make a mistake, you won't be able to handle bullets whizzing by you or the stress of military life, let alone a PT run.

That being said, it's in my opinion that striking recruits/privates in bootcamp is counterproductive and there are more effective ways to correct one's behavior that does not involve hitting them. At the same time, I think you shouldn't cry when you get gutpunched for sleeping on fire watch.

Not being able to zero your rifle shouldn't result in a PT smoking session and yelling until you get it right but unfortunately, this is a reality.

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>>388226174
They're the funniest guys I have been around.

My RDCs were funny af when we were hitting graduation. You really come to respect those guys

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>>388221578
>american drill instructors
what a fucking joke
THIS is how you train men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0w2C9HWuUQ

>>388221578
They'd have to get an actual drill sergeant for it to sound good. The actor for Hartmann was a actual drill sergeant. He didn't even need to act.

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>>388225860

>Is this by design or are those drill guys just assholes that nobody can do anything about?

It's suppose to be stressful by design. You are being groomed to react a certain way under extreme stress, but civilian oversight of the Army is trying to break that design.

As the Army continues to get more soft on how new recruits can be treated, the quality of new privates we receive drops.

New privates do things I would have never dreamed of doing when I was a private, talking back to team leaders, squad leaders and platoon sergeants, not saluting officers, standing around playing on their phones when there is work to be done.

>>388225924
t. buttmad chair force faggot

What people think being a drill sergeant is about
>yelling at people
What being a drill sergeant is actually about
>sending the entire unit out on an all-day hike and using the time to move all their bunks, lockers, trunks, and cupboards out onto the parade ground set up in perfect order as if they were still inside the barracks

>>388222582
>3 or 4 hours of sleep
Thats just asking for trouble, how do these people know what day it is.

>>388226690
That'll be why Russia has such a high amount of deserters and the lowest troop morale of any army.

>>388226472
>dipshit next to you magdumps harmlessly over hajji's head as he shoots a rocket at you both

>>388225849
Funny, it's the first time I see a nigger writing anything else than "muh dick" and yet, the message is the same.

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>>388221578
Is boot camp actually like it is in the movies?
I want to hear more stories.

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>>388225860
It's literally filtering.

When I was in ((european)) Police Academy, the first 4 months were a hell time, more cardio than an Ethiopian could survive with the instructors telling you every moment, especially at your weakest with your face on the ground that you are not Police material and that nobody wants you there and that you should quit.

The goal is to only keep those who actually want to be there and don't quit.

>>388226690
Those aren't professional sergeants, just senior conscripts who did that during wilder years after USSR's fall. Nowadays stuff like that gets you into real deep shit. There was a guy during my service who tried stuff like that and he got 4 years.

How does one become a drill instructor? Not just land the job, but physically become one, dictionary full of insults and all.

Do they choose the loudest motherfuckers in the corps and make them take courses in advanced swearing?

>>388226690
Thats just dumb and is nothing more than a couple of drunk Lance Corporal equivalents hazing the boots. Also why the ruskies have such shit morale and desert in droves.
https://youtu.be/6y-RSdUgbVk?t=1m17s

>>388226883
Shit ton of caffeine.

>>388226690
>>388226905
>>388227173
Those guys were arrested.

>>388226613
What game are these from?

>MTI's routinely recycle flights in the 8th week to meet demand for low-desirability jobs
>Happened to over half of the people I know in the AF after I left

Man I'm fucking proud of my ELS; what a crock of shit.

>>388227356
Vietcong.
It's the tutorial level.

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>>388221578

>>388221578
>flip-flops

What is this, a holiday camp?

>>388226274
>have two diffrent sergeants
>comfy Sgt and Fuck me up Sgt
>comfy sgt: if you guys do this quick, i´ll let you rest for an 30min before lunch
>Fuck me up Sgt: ARE YOU FUCKERS TIRED!? IF YOU CAN COMPLAIN YOU STILL HAVE LIFE IN YOU!!! LAST GROUP TO MAKE IT TO POINT B AND BACK WILL DO 100 PUSHUPS BEFORE YOU GET ANY LUNCH, AND I I DONT CARE IF YOU DONT GET ANY LUNCH AT ALL, SO MOVEMOVEMOVE!

>>388227057
It's a lot less fun when it's happening to you, pretty terrifying actually, but in retrospect, like a few months after you're done with it, you have find memories of it and all the abuse you took

>>388227441
just a bunch of pussies from america's army, or marines, who knows ? nobody cares about these meatsacks

>>388227553
I wonder if they switch the personalities when the next batch of recruits comes in. Good cop - bad cop style.

>>388227156
In the AF at least, it's a special duty that you have to do after so many years of service, it's either that or recruiter or other oddball jobs. The big wigs choose people at random to become loud, not ones that are loud already, it's a lot more of a learned thing than most people think

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>Corporal Shepard?
>Looks more like Corporal Dogmeat to me!

>>388227057
No.
I wish it was, but because of PC rules, you'd think it got easier right?
Some of the instructors are getting very, very clever with their punishments. They know how to really compress your soul into nothing.

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>>388226174
>now I have to kill you cause you're inside me

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>tfw the HECU was a fictional unit

>>388228058
Or is it

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>>388227156
You learn the shit from your instructors, who learned it form their instructors, and so on.

If this man could be a drill instructor, then anyone can.

>>388227956
>Doctor Freeman, I'm SGT.

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>>388224724
>War, long periods of excessive stress
>Can't let training prepare them for it

>>388225860
every single DI, DS, MTI, whatever not only went through basic themselves, but went to a training course to become an instructor where they were treated like recruits again. it provides psychological insight into how people are affected.
every angry face who is worth a shit at his or her job actually cares about preparing recruits for a successful military career

>>388221578
>YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM, SOLDIER! WHERE IS YOUR POWER ARMOR?!

>>388225860
Why coddle people who could well be thrown into situations that demand that they be able to cope with extreme stress?

Or is that too bigoted for you? Waaaah, waaaaaaah.

>>388228512
Uh...me not have.

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>>388227057

Kind of, it's not as harsh as it use to be. It's actually pretty fucking dumb when you look back on it after but it's stressful when you are there.

You do a lot of dumb shit that won't really make sense to you until later in your career, and then you will do a lot of dumb shit that will never make sense ever.

When we did our STXs one of our drill sergeants blew up a rattlesnake with an M80, then he made us all strip into our underwear, paint our bodies with warpaint and do an Indian rain dance for 9 hours around the carcass because the ammo guys fucked up and we didn't have any ammo for the first day. 6 people passed out because it was 105 fucking degrees out in south Georgia humidity.

>>388228836
>blew up a rattlesnake with an M80, then he made us all strip into our underwear, paint our bodies with warpaint and do an Indian rain dance for 9 hours around the carcass
Do Americans really do this?

>>388225024
Are these Danes for real? No wonder Denmark is considered a joke.

>>388225408
hitting them is pretty meningless, you can achive the same result by yelling,cursing and have them do tiring shit, like having them dig holes and then have them cover it up again


hitting them = punishment (minus mutual respect as you come out as a massiv cunt to everyone)
tiring punishment = punishment but they can still respect you and your rank

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WELCOME TO CAMP NAVARRO!

>>388225849
Americans are still not even in the recovery stages from the cuckening yet, Your country spearheaded the movements that caused the ultra-progressive reckoning.

>>388225408

When I was in boot for the Army we had a guy who had pissed off just about everyone in our platoon to the point a bunch of dudes wrote this completely faggy letter complaining about him to our drills.

To settle it our drills had us toe the line and take turns volunteering to fight him. He lost to the first couple guys and then after that was too tired to put up a decent fight and was just taking rear naked chokes and guillotines left and right.

At one point he stood up a a bit too angrily and bumped into one of the drills. Drill got angry enough at that he grabbed him by the collar and slammed him up against the nearest lockers. It was awkward to watch.

>>388229392
>richest scandinavian country
>high standard of living
>doesn't have a migrant problem like Sweden
>happiest country in the world
yeah, a total joke

>>388228279
There must be some sociology behind it that says being able to build a tolerance to stress is more effective than 'breaking',

>>388229040

The infantry is like a fraternity. It can get pretty silly when it's just a bunch of 18-25 year old men stuck together for months.

Women being allowed in now is probably going to put a stop to all sorts of shenanigans like that. The days of kidnapping people in other platoons during the night and leaving them tied up somewhere, bare-knuckle boxing in the killzone, shitting in other trainee's rucks while they are pulling security, burying people in their hasty fighting positions while they sleep and other general fuckery are over.

>>388229587
The video that other anon showed shows how big cucks you are.

>>388229712
>shitting in other trainee's rucks
>kidnapping people
>>388229454
>forcing a guy to fight a whole platoon so they can strangle him unconscious

The army sounds like a bunch of queers desu.

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>>388229712
>shitting in rucks
Glad we weren't the only platoon doing this, that was always fucking hilarious along with gargoyling with lockers

>>388226472
>Not being able to zero your rifle shouldn't result in a PT smoking session and yelling until you get it right but unfortunately, this is a reality.

Man. My platoon once got smoked in full gear in the sun on a 95+ degree day because, get this, one fucking jackass didn't have his motherfucking canteen filled when we were told to hydrate.

>>388226275
I'd agreed with everything except :
>Also it builds a sense of camaraderie among the soldiers, since if someone fucks up everyone gets punished.

Feels to me that it would only make everyone fucking hate the guy who fucks up/keeps fucking up

>>388229992
>gargoyling with lockers

I am intrigued

>>388229775
I'm not even Danish.

>>388222627
Fuck you.

>>388229960
Don't ask don't tell anon

>>388229960

Just what happens when you enlist for a combat role.

>>388230092
Initially, yeah, but given enough time that dude/s either straightens up or gets sent home for being a bitch.

>>388230092
Perhaps, but if everyone fucks up once or twice it gives them something to bond over.

>>388230092
>Feels to me that it would only make everyone fucking hate the guy who fucks up/keeps fucking up

Eh, I hated a lot of the people in my platoon anyway. When you go for a shit like infantry or similar you have to accept that most of the people with you are going to be retarded.

>>388230106
Basically you shove the fattest guy you can into the locker of the person who comes out of the shower last, he's naked and stuffed in there, and when the guy rushes in to open his locker (because he's probably going to be late for something), the fat guys ass is there in his face and he takes a massive dump on the floor and everyone laughs

>>388230092

It usually works though. Everyone gets together and squares the fuck up away themselves so they all stop getting fucked up. If it happens to be a case where it just doesn't work, the recruit gets recycled into another group, sent home, or they hang themselves in the bathroom and the problem fixes itself anyway.

It happens pretty much every training cycle. The military has it down to a fine science.

>>388226174

>At basic
>one drill sergeant is a kinda short black guy named Drill Sergeant Ray
>hates the entire platoon
>punishes everyday for whatever reason, then rants at us while we're being punished
>always complains about his home life
>"Because of you stupid fuckers, I gotta be here 18 hours a goddamn day, and I just know my bitch wife is at the club taking dick because I'm not there to smack her back into line!"

Looking back at it, that was really bizarre. He was one of the few drill sergeants without combat ptsd too, he was just wierd

>>388230092
That guy has to fucking realize he's not on his own anymore, he's part of a bigger entity and his fuckups could potentially screw the whole group just because of him, So this works to make him realize he cant just make excuses and try even fucking harder to reach everyone's else's level.
When you're in that situation, what you need are RESULTS, not attempts.
You cant have any fucking mistake in a warzone, like installing a device as a defensive measure and forget to turn it on, it gets you killed

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>>388225024
>have a danish friend whom i go to the range every now and then and shot clay doves
jeg kan godt li ham der
>join army
>göteborg, stockholm and southeners are there aswell, they have never held a gun before
>they wave it around like a toy
>rifles arent like the hunter rifles im use to, no recoil what so ever
>one day we are at the army range and gonna shot some shotgun
>first guy thinks its rifle level recoil tier, dont hold it firmly towards the shoulder
>hits his shoulder bone (clavicle) so badly, that we have to drive him to the Doc
för helvete

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>you will never be American
>>388230496

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>>388230496
What's the fun in that? That's just mean and gross.

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>>388230496
Holy fuck.

>>388230928
When your squad mates are sub-100 IQ it's probably hilarious to them.

That's why you should try to enlist as an officer or find a better job I guess.

>>388225413
Hahahaha this

>>388230712

We had this tiny little fucker in my platoon. He was 5' 2"/157cm~, was in danger of being underweight.

Dude gave himself the worst bruise I have ever seen because instead of shouldering the stock he was resting it on his fucking BICEP.

>>388231052

>army enlisted vet
>go to uni after getting out
>Corp of cadets is huge on campus
>laugh at them every day I see them walking around with gear or full dress uniform
>some guy tells me that I shouldn't be disrespecting them, they're heroes
>laugh at him too

Those dumb fuckers have no idea what a mistake they made, but some might just be in it for the college money.

>>388230092
>have a fucking weak ass dumbbass in group
>if he fails everyone fails
>25+ people drags him and spurrs him to keep going
>later he buffs up and mans up
basic installation on the, leave no one behind mentality

>>388231052

You'd be shocked to know that BOLC is even more of a dumb fraternity then, because BOLC is made up of actual college fratboys instead of 18 year old high school kids, especially IBOLC for infantry officers.

>>388231328
>>some guy tells me that I shouldn't be disrespecting them, they're heroes

It physically pains me that I know so many people that actually think that way. It's no wonder people false honor. It's just too damn easy.

>>388224121
They got more PC as in they'll give us more talks about all kinds of abuse. But really, we all wanted to get beaten, it was like an honor badge.

>>388225273
lmao boot

>>388224121
Can't speak for Marines but when I was in Army infantry it was holy hell. Saw no less then 3 guys get choked out by DS for rolling there eyes at him. I've heard though they've cracked down so it's much more PC now. It's fucking bullshit.

>>388231328

Tangentially related:
I never know what to do say back to people when I tell them I was in the Air Force and they say, "Thank you for your service."

Look, I didn't do a damn thing the entire time. Didn't even deploy.

>>388224754
Amen brother. It's moments like that that prove if you have discipline or not.

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>>388231826
>just get back from tech school and on leave/RAP
>civies give me "thanks for your service" when I'm running errands for my recruiter

t-thanks for your support

>>388224754
My wife still doesn't understand why I take such hot and long showers. Bitch, you spend 2 months taking cold 30 second showers and then tell me you don't cherish every single shower from then on.

>>388231826

For you and all the other vets that get the handshake and "thank you for your service" crap, I had a major that solved it: what you do is, you shake their hand back even more earnestly and say "thank you for your support", then look at them like you're expecting a reply.

On a more serious notr, it doesn't matter if you've actually served in combat or any of that shit. You volunteered to do it if you were called on to do it, and if you did your job well, you contributed to unit readiness in case of whatever situation. So you did a valuable service to the country regardless.

>>388221578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJoeGvn6MAY
There is NO way you will able to understand them without subtitles. it took me like a week or two in boot camp to get gist of what their saying. Everyone else including me just follow the crowd. There is a reason these DI voices never appear in video games. No one likes being told what to do in a video game either.

>FUCKING PRESS THE A BUTTON
uhh. no way fag.

>>388231826

Just thank 'em and move on. Trying to explain it won't really get you anywhere. People like that are basically brainwashed. Once had a girl tell me about how she used to go around saluting instead of just thanking dudes until one of them pointed out they aren't even an officer and whatnot.

>>388222582
>joining the military

>>388232273
>video
Won't that cause permanent hearing damage?

>>388221578
>Why are there so few drill sergeants in video games?
Because games don't take place at boot camp, idiot.

>>388231826
>a chair force who isn't a glory seeking piece of shit

Don't know what to say but thanks for being the exception.

>>388232273
>guys says traps are gay in trap thread.webm

>>388232258
>it doesn't matter if you've actually served in combat or
Yeah, yeah, I know. That phrase just TRIGGERS me, I guess.

>>388232274
>Just thank 'em and move on.
That's what I usually do.

>go around saluting
I used to salute in all sorts of inappropriate situations. It becomes kind of fun when you realize that officers tend to hate saluting more than the enlisted.

>>388232209
>tfw you can sleep for aslong as you want on a comfy bed, after months of 3-5h naps atmost, on cold, hard ground or thin bunkbeds
a good rest is something i cherish ALOT nowaday, no one who havent experienced it can understand the simple joy of resting in your own bed, it was like falling and staying inlove

>>388232570
The only chair forcers who are glory seekers are pilots, spec ops, and secfo who are way in over their heads from what I've met of them

>>388232209
This. This reminds of this one asshole we had in my squad.

>guy is this Indian know it all but he's actually dumb as fuck and fucks up constantly
>complains incessantly and keeps saying he's going to be SF
>ends up being a driver for major in my batallion
>complains the entire time
>while out in the field we have a horrible storm that makes everything miserable and muddy
>he ends up going back to rear and gets a shower and rest in a bed
>"oh it's not like it was that big a deal" he says to us

Needless to say me and others fucked with him on a daily basis.

>>388221578
Non-American here.
What do you actually do in boot camp/basic?
How long is it? Are there general stages of training or do they just throw everything at you?

>>388232460
>hearing problems
what?

anyway, thats the least of our problems. I could or any marine go on for days how fucked up boot camp is in terms of sickness.

>>388232209

The military can make you appreciate a lot of little things.

Coming back to a hot shower and an actual bed after spending a couple weeks in the field is a nice feeling.

MY unit goes to NTC in 4 days and I'm already looking forward to coming back.

>>388233129
Are the hygienic conditions really that bad that diseases are widespread?

>>388233064
Learn how to make a bed
Exercise
Get yelled at
Watch other people get yelled at (this is the best part)
Notice how all the 18 year olds take everything super serious
Shoot guns
Get really good at stripping an M16 and putting it back together
Do laundry, fold socks
Shoot the shit with everyone

>>388233312

It's not serious disease, but most people spend all of their basic training cycle ill. I had a bad cough for almost the whole 3 months I was at Benning.

>>388233409
I forgot about standing around and waiting for literally everything.

>>388233064
>What do you actually do in boot camp/basic?
>How long is it? Are there general stages of training or do they just throw everything at you?

Basic covers, well, the basics. Rifle training and qualification is the biggest thing early on. You also learn orienteering, proper radio usage, all that kind of shit.

Training followed a phase system based on colors. Every time we went up a color, based on how long we'd training and if we hadn't fucked up, we'd get extra privileges. For example, we weren't allowed to eat any desserts or drink anything other than water at chow until we'd hit something like the third phase.

>>388226076
if you dont know what dialation is its when they shove something up their mutilated dickhole to stretch it out as the body considers it an open wound and will close it otherwise

hair still grows inside of it

>>388233064
You get trained to be a well disciplined member of the military, you get yelled at a lot and have to do a lot of PT, good for you, good for me. It's usually two to three months depending on what branch you fo into, theres various phases of training that teach you the basics, weapons training, drill practice, military procedures, usually separated by weeks of training

>>388233409
I thought U.S.A. replaced M16s with M4s as their main battle rifle?

>>388233312
It's inevitable when you put 40 people from all over the nation in close quarters. Some people have never left their hometown. Some people's immune system doesn't have time to recover coming into contact with so many unknowns on top of stress.

>>388225413
and europeons are OBSESSED

>>388233731

Carbines are only used when the shorter barrel length is needed.

>>388233271
>NTC

Oh the times I remember there.

>given order by our company commander to climb a mountain for observation
>ok
>"oh but to clarify your going to need to be in MOPP 4 for all of this
>fuck
>half the climb up with all this shit on us and Pro mask we run into an exploded Air Force ordinance
>everyone looks at each other not sure what to do
>call on radio and report it
>get to the top and everyone is exhausted
>an hour later an OC gets to top of the mountain with us
>he looks incredibly confused
>asks our squad leader why we're up here
>he tells him company commander told us to
>OC proceeds to tell us that the OP for where on off for the day and today was suppose to be a recuperate day for us
>turns out our company commander did this whole thing to try and impress the batallion commander
>needless to say he wasn't impressed in the least

>>388233951
When is this?

all these stories itt make military seem like fucking hell full of chads
I'd rather be a neet til I die

>>388233731
I went in about 8 years ago and we were still training in basic with M16s. I think the ones we had with us most of the were missing a firing pin or something, but the ones we went out shooting with were shitty Vietnam era M16s.

I think most real world operations use M4s nowadays. I know our local armory had a bunch, but I never got to fire one.

>>388234025

If you're on a clearing team or if you're a vehicle crew member. Any time having the full length barrel would be prohibitive.

>>388233519
>standing around and waiting
what kind of special weak country candy ass are you? only time we stood still was in the morning inspection, else they they had us do tasks

>>388233064

In basic training for all branches you learn pretty much the same exact things. It's all about repetition and attention to detail, you learn basic skills like shooting and marching, cleaning equipment, and maintaining your fitness. Most basic training cycles are around 10 weeks.

All your specific job skills are taught in a separate training environment that is a little bit more relaxed in most cases.

For my personal experience I went to Army Infantry OSUT, which is a 14 week basic training and advanced training wrapped into one. You don't need that much advanced training to catch bullets.

Some job training can last over a year or two.

>>388234004
Fuck mopp gear man, I'm glad I'm a damn mechanic and don't have to wear that shit out and about

>>388233312
yes, because you got every swinging dick everywhere in the US and mexico including overseas like kenya or korea training in this one place. Everyone in my platoon had pnemonia/bronchitis, pink eye, some skin rash on the legs thats actually quite serious that you get from the field. I remember waking up in the middle of the night coughing up blood all month. No one goes to the doc because the fear of going going back a week.

>>388233064
>Non-American here.
???
Almost every state in the world has some form of armed forces with some sort of boot camp

>>388224554
>>388224458
POLAND STRONK

>>388233691
That's fucking nasty imagine having to deal with that during combat fuck this shit

>>388234238
>only morning inspection
Wow, must be nice.

>>388234004

Yeah I'm not looking forward to crawling up Tiefort in MOPP 4 while the god damn Donovians shoot at us from helicopters.

Atropia is the shittiest country ever.

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Back to /meg/ with all of you.

Fucking warpigs get off my board reee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWHvxQhOID0

EXCUSE ME? FUCK YOU!

>>388234698
That was a short time as a marine.

>>388221578

Huh, come to think of it, you're right. I can only think of the NPC in Mass Effect 2 when you go through C-Sec customs on the Citadel.

Then again, few vidya characters star out as recruits if it's a single-player, story driven game.

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>>388234624
GO RUN BACK TO COWARDFELL!!! ILL HAVE YOUR HEAD ON A SPIKE!!

>>388235373
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SON OF A GODDAMN BITCH
YOU'RE A PIECE OF SHIT
YOU'RE A DISGUSTING PIECE OF SHIT
AHAHHHH
WAHHHHHHHHHHHH
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lrxt5RU5Kk

Whats the reason for being this hostile and mean to your recruits? What did he do?

>>388231328
>served 5 years in the marines
>now in the army reserves
>see a cadet. not an officer but we have to treat them as such?

it's fucking weird like petty officers with shiny chevrons weird.

>>388235827
He didn't give a proper greeting of the day but it was a setup. he was fucked either way

>>388235827
Recruits need to be shown that they don't live in their world anymore

>>388236102
Don't kid yourself, if any cadet bitched about not being saluted then they'd get their ass handed to them in a gold-encrusted laundry bag.

>>388236102

It's just a courtesy extended to cadets, they don't command that respect. Usually the order to salute them comes from someone in your actual chain of command. All the cadets I ever worked with as an NCO were really chill and knew how to listen when I was teaching them how to lead their unit

>>388234519
>wake up
>morning stress clean up
>morning inspection (miss something and its extra execise for that group)
>morning exercise
>stress breakfest

Why are most drill instructors bald?

>>388237847
Stress causes baldness

>>388236342
arent recruits from earth as well?

>>388237847
I think its less shit to worry about. They're under extreme scrutiny.

>>388221578
People play games to unwind. A drill sergeant is specifically trained to counteract that feeling.
There's no sense of danger either, so even if one is screaming in your avatar's face, all the player is most likely thinking is how they're going to attempt to kill them first chance they get.

>>388238632
boot camp ain't earth. it's planet drill sergeant. and whatever king of planet drill sergeant says, it gets done.

>>388239919
i sure hope planet drill sergeant doesn't tell me to get on my knees and suck his big fat cock :3c nyahh~

>>388240404
cease

Dornan was pretty good.

>>388224724
Air Force faggot here, can confirm that there is no physical contact or swearing in this branch, although direct insults and getting right in your shit are allowed.

Also stress cards aren't real, at least not for the AF, and if they arent in the AF, they arent in any branch.

>>388229429
yeah, this guy was great. wasnt he the only time we see talking heads for enclave members?