>still has a shit ton of slowdown you told me monolith ca

no it doesn't have any slowdowns, that was just a shitty stream, we already discussed this

>>388221624
and no, they can do no wrong. when it comes to presentation, graphics, they are fucking magicians. just look at the XCX on wii u. unbelievable

So unlike the E3 build, Rex has an art he can use right at the start of battle. Where are those anons who refused to believe that arts could be upgraded as you played, like every other fucking Xenoblade game, and whined non-stop about battles always being slow? I have crow for them.

>can do no wrong
Xenoblade 1 had quite a bit of slowdown in places, they tried to make big open areas on a shitty consoles. This might be a strea issue you're seeing though.

>>388222204
stream*

>>388222143
Well, it'd be strange if you couldn't upgrade your blades to scale with the later level enemies.

Though it does look like the blades (outside of the 1 main blade per driver) are highly interchangeable.

Should be fun to see how many blades we can collect in this game.

>>388221289
It's looking fantastic so far, loved the new area and the improvements shown in this new stream, I just hope the plot is good too.

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>>388222143
Those people were retarded and weren't paying attention

This game is B team garbage.

>>388224635
How so?

I'd argue that this game is much more intricate than previous Xenoblade games in combat.

>use auto attack to charge up arts
>use arts to charge up elemental arts
>use elemental arts in different order to cast skill seals among other things via orbs
>use chain attack to break those orbs and reset the cycle
>different arms have different elemental properties and skills allowing you to change your team composition on the fly (Rex can be changed to tank, Tora can become DPS, and Nia can become the healer, etc.
>soundtrack is the largest in any Xeno game released to date
>there will be multiple titans to explore

>>388224635
Monolith Soft's B team was busy helping with BotW and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, XC2 is shaping up to be another great Xeno game.

>>388221289
They said almost at the end of the stream that it still was an unfinished build. Also STREAM.

>>388225313
If anything I'm surprised that they didn't just show the E3 build, but I'm glad we got to see all the improvements and a new area.

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Will Tora and Poppi be the cutest Driver/Blade pair?

do i have to play the first one to play 2?

>>388225535
They also put in the English voices, which they said they were a week away from managing to back at E3.

>>388221289
That game is so fucking ugly if you aren't a weeb. The clothes look ridiculous. I hope there is an explanation for that massive fucking hud and why that girls clothing wings are flowing senseless at every moment. Why are moves announced in glittering pink triangles. Christ what a shitshow

>>388225640
This is cute.

>>388225660
You don't, it's like Final Fantasy games. Xenoblade 1 and X are great games on their own too, you should consider playing them if you have the chance as well.

>>388225748
It looks like shit, and X was shit too.

>>388225748
Once you understand the combat mechanics the design choices of the HUD in all 3 Xenoblade games are very clear. They should have made a smaller HUD for docked mode though.

>>388225748
>I hope there is an explanation for that massive fucking hud
You need to be able to see it while playing in handheld mode.

>>388225748
>I hope there is an explanation for that massive fucking hud
The explanation is that they don't want a UI that would look tiny on the Switch screen, genius. People complained about X's being too small to read on the Wii U gamepad, so here we are.

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>>388221289
>OI M8 LES SHOW THESE CUNTS A THING OR THREE AH CUD BASH THEH FACKIN SKULLS IN BLINDFOLDED AMIRITE INNIT.

I'll admit, I'm kind of starting to like him. He's got a sort bravado that Shulk didn't.

>>388221289
How is it even possible this looks worlds worse than X?
Hopefully the writing isn't shit so we don't get many buyers remorse Switch fags.

Poppi fanart when?

>>388226317
You can't really judge from a cropped stream, go watch the 2 trailers instead. The game looks marginally better than X, except for the lighting which is much better now.

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>25fps
>With drops
Great. It's even worse than Xenoblade. It really shows that they're rushing the game out to have at least one worthwhile Switch title besides Odyssey.

>HUD is xbox hueg to compensate for handheld mode
>You can not customize the size
Amazing. Nintendo really hate customization huh?

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>>388226857
>20fps
>With drops
Great. It's even worse than LttP. It really shows that they're rushing the game out to have at least one worthwhile 64 title besides Super Mario 64.

>>388227050
>Deflecting
Yeah, OoT has terrible framerate as well. What's your point?

I don't get it what's wrong with it? Is this just XBX fags crying if so I certainly don't give a fuck since XBX was complete garbage and im glad they are going back to story focus.

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>>388227001
>You can not customize the size
Source?
I hate how the HUD look.

>>388226857
During the E3 they said they were still polishing the game, tweaking performance issues and minor bugs are the last things they will probably do.

>>388227001
We don't have confirmation of that yet.

>>388227001
>>You can not customize the size
Source?

>>388227154
People who loved XC1 and XCX will almost certainly love this game too, the usual shitposting is from people that are clearly not familiar with the franchise.

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>>388227050
>comparing it to something from 1998
You really are desperate, aren't you?

>>388227189
>They're still polishing
Sure they are. But, judging by their track record, the performance won't improve. You'd have to be really gullible to believe they'll actually manage to fix the framerate issues before release.
If anything, it may come as a patch some weeks or months later.

>>388222204
No, it didn't. Maybe your shitty toaster couldn't emulate it properly, but on the actual console it didn't feature any slowdown. It had a consistent frame rate.

>>388227434
Yeah, but that's just speculation, I'm used to play console games at sub 30 fps, but Nintendo and Monolith Soft have always been consistent giving stable performance in their games Makna Forest excluded.

Managing your party in X was a fucking travesty No one in reserve gains XP. If you want to switch members, you have to find their tiny character model on the gargantuan map and hope you found them at the right time of day. When taking on a main mission, you literally have no choice but to bring along Elma and Tater. During affinity quests, you couldn't abort mission or change party members. Have they brought it back to how it was in 1?
Is there still a needless online mode? Is fashion gear still in?

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>>388227636
>but on the actual console it didn't feature any slowdown

>>388227636
This is a lie. Past fallen arm there was absurd slowdown. I did play on Wii u instead of Wii.

>>388228068

you can't change your outfit if that's what you're asking.

>>388221289
So far, all I can say is that the music is fucking ace.
No pun intended

>>388228068
>Have they brought it back to how it was in 1?
I don't know but I hope so
>Is there still a needless online mode?
No
>Is fashion gear still in?
Not confirmed yet, but i don't think it's in, unfortunately

>>388225660
I imagine not, but honestly you should. I got the original before playing x and it was absolutely worth it. Then I started x recently and it's actually a great game for completely different reason, if you know what to expect going in.

Original is better story, x has better exploration.

>>388228427
>you can't change your outfit if that's what you're asking.
There is no evidence for that, and hasn't been confirmed.

>>388221624
>you told me monolith can do no wrong
Where the fuck have you been? They've never even made a game with good gameplay.

>>388228068
While i agree switching party members is tedious, they are always in the same spot, their position is marked on the map, and I've never not found then at any time of day or night. No reserve experience sucks chunks though.

Playing xcx without the minimap on is the way to go

>>388226385
Give me some good reference shots and I might try my luck in the drawthreads.

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>>388228473

>>388228765
>I've never not found then at any time of day or night
It can happen when they're ready for a heart to heart, in which case they'll be at the related spot/timeframe.

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>>388228897
In case you're for real, these are the best shots I could get from the stream. I've seen unpartnered Twitch streams with better bit rates than Gamescom, so that's fucking annoying.

>>388228765
Except when they go to their fucking heart-to-heart locations
Fucking hell, it's a goddamn hassle to find them

>>388229528
>>388230114
Oh that does suck then is there any notification that that has happened at least?

>>388228608
there was a "cosmetics" shop in the town they shown today, but seems like the only gear in the game is rings and shit, so maybe instead of gear changing appearance you can just buy fashion stuff instead.

>>388230245
You can check if they've gained an affinity level from the affinity chart. Where they go and at which time must be found out from random NPCs though. It's pretty much something where using a guide is advised.

>>388230348
I'm fine with that, I never get anything that I find statically pleasing of mix and matching parts of different sets in games.

Apparently, enemies were given more HP for the demo to allow for more of the combat to be shown off, before anyone complains about them having too much.

xenoblade games never even broke a million
why do retards still give a flipping fuck about this series?

>>388231775
>same copy/paste shitposting over and over again
why do retards like you still breathe?

>>388231870
seems like you can handle criticism

>fall damage is back
Fuck

>>388232315
It makes sense I suppose. Xenoblade X specially gave a justification for why there was no fall damage, so it'd be weird to have no fall damage in a game without that justification.

>>388232315
>Fall damage is back
>Small jumps are back
>No mechs
>No clothing gear that changes your appearance
>No fashion slots
>Can't go absolutely everywhere
Why the fuck did they have to take so many stupid steps backward?

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What the fuuuuuck!? Why does the stream have the game as a thumbnail in the corner and why are every XC2 streams in 720p. I was so excited to see this new area, but I hardly can and have to watch 3 numales instead.

>>388232657
Could have easily explained away fall damage by saying Rex's ridiculous pants have shock-absorption tech à la Aperture Science in them

>>388232890
For what it's worth, Takahashi said he wants to keep Xenoblade and Xenoblade X separate while alternating making games in each style. I don't know why that must mean going back to making the game clunkier and with less freedom (even just in the characters' appearence), but so it is.

>>388232890
Because XBX was shit.

>>388221289
Why does Nia have seizures?

>>388232931
hate that shit.

>looking up programming tutorial
>some schmuck in the corner, making the same awkward expression the whole time

>>388232657
can unlock skills to interact with the world, maybe there is a skill for Rex hook shoot thing to negate fall damage

Neat, Bismark is my favourite primal design wise and theme

>>388232254
>calls people retards

great "criticism" there.

>>388229804
so this is a male?

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>>388233681
Sadly, no.

>>388233362
That would be cool, but I doubt we'll get that
Anyway, I wasn't too sold on the new battle system but after the stream I like it more
I just wonder if we'll get some broken ass shit in endgame, making broken builds was fun in both XC and XCX

>>388233469
toughen up kid

>>388227636
bullshit get the fuck out, the entire second half of Zanza was a gigantic slowdown

>>388233681
>pretty good ass
>genki band-aid
>eyelashes
>that idle animation
Think for a second.

>>388231014
Source?

>>388225660
no but this is a tetsuya takahashi directed game so expected a shit ton of callbacks and references, the entire driver/blade "pact" is one big xenogears reference

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>>388233894
But
>Draw a girl
>Call it a boy
is a Japanese stapple.

>>388233319
Her anti-spiral gene is acting up.

>>388233894
someone said it was a boy. figured they were wrong, but I honestly don't know. this is japan we're talking about. guess there's just not enough info on this character yet.

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>TAKE THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS

>>388221731
>graphics
>fucking magicians
XCX ran at 720p and had a godawful story

>>388233987
A post on NeoGAF.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=246966314&postcount=20

>During an Italian official presentation, the Nintendo representative told that this was done for demo purposes in order to allow a full demonstration of the first 4 layers of the combat system within few encounters/short limit of time

Did we agree on the canon outfit for swordgirl yet?

>>388234878
>first 4 layers

So there is more to the combat? Already has more depth then the previous xenoblades

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>calls Poppi a special blade
Does this tie into why Tora was missing from this screen?

>>388234878
>first 4 layers
Is this game an Ogre

>>388235235
He seems to be a full-fledged character in every other regard, it would be strange if he couldn't get more Blades and thus more than one weapon type/four arts at a time.

>>388235235
I think special blade means pyra/poppi/the tiger, not the generic ones everyone can equip

>>388235235
>>388235609
>specifically called Poppi α
>is some sort of "special Blade"
I think what's happening is that, although Tora won't be able to equip other Blades, Poppi will be able to take on different forms that are essentially their own Blades.

I assume there's some sort of story reason for this.

That's what happens when your system despite being more expensive than all of the competitor's systems uses hardware that isn't even fit for a modern android tablet.

>>388235879
He only referred to Poppi as a special Blade while listing all of the characters, though.

>>388235973
Oh right, that would make sense. Kind of like Cupil in Skies of Arcadia, if you know that. Although if Tora works by the same rules as everyone else, then Poppi should split in more forms rather than transform, that or more forms can give her more than one weapon type and set of arts at once.

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I want fanart of Poppi and Popi cheering on as Tora and Emu beat up bad guys.

>>388236248
Each character can only have one Blade out at once, so I don't think you'd have to have her split into different forms or anything; her version of swapping out for another Blade would simply be transforming into a different form with its own weapon and arts.

>>388236518
But the most important question is, will Poppi ω be an oppai loli?

Glad other people are beginning to accept The Way of the Poppi.

>>388236367
Source of the webm?

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>>388236880
Kamen Rider Ex-Aid

is there an undub for the 3ds version?

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>>388237196
Who in their right minds would EVER play the original Xenoblade in ANYTHING but English?

>>388236367
>>388237140
Why is Kyari Pamyu Pamyu in Karate Bugmen?

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>>388237490
Sex appeal.

>>388237196
>original Xenoblade
>playing with japanese voices

You are the most retard person in the thread right after the obvious falseflaggers in the thread

>>388237140
That girl is cute but the story seems garbage

>>388237709
You don't watch Ex-Aid for the story, you watch it for the fun and for Dan.

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looks laggy as fuck
enjoy your 15 fps game nintenbros

>>388234409
>Ran at 720p at barely better than ps3 hardware
That's magic you fucking retard

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>>388237709
The story is actually pretty good, just takes a while to get into gear. The moment they start playing Kamen Rider Chronicle, the show stays consistently engaging and good.

>>388236091
>Better than any other Android tablet*
Seriously you people are fucking illiterate. Any x1 tablet costs like $500 or more. Having it in the switch at $300 is a great deal

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>>388237775
w-who is dan?

>>388237953
He's the man with a plan

>>388225748
>weeb
Newfag detected

>>388233424
Who is Bismark

>>388237921
Are you kidding me nigger? The fucking first gen Shield has the same hardware as the switch and costs 200 bucks.

>>388226650
>>388226317
Did you honestly thought it would look better than a WiiU game?
X doesn't even look that bad except for characters.

>>388221289
That's what you get when you have to rush development.
For some reason people really, really want a 2017 release. No idea why

>>388233424
>primal

hello MMO tard! shinryu EX when?

>>388239319
an enemy/summon in final fantasy games, one of those flying whales you keep seeing in japanese myth/games

>>388239512
>That's what you get when you have to rush development.
>citation needed

>>388239403
>A k1 is the same as an x1
Illiterate nigger. Fuck you.

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>>388239403
The first gen shield had a fucking Tegra 4 you retard, and even the shield tablet only had a keplar k1. A comparable x1 tablet would be the Pixel C which is over $500 like that anon said. You're fucking stupid

>>388221289
>shitty stream
>presumably old build
And guess what the two previous games also had slowdowns, not all that visible but they had them.

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>>388237953
Dan Kuroto is the main antagonist for the first half of the show and a reluctant ally for the second half after his father stabs him in the back. He's an egotistical game developer with a god complex who aims (actually manages to) become immortal and he's the one that developed all the tech the heroes use to fight the monsters (which are also of his creation).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb7sHogxo18

>>388237567
Sex appeal? Is she supposed to be attractive?
I find her pretty disgusting, and I have severe yellow fever!
Nico is hotter and she doesn't hold a candle to the female cast from Fourze.

>>388239975
I don't recall XCX getting slowdowns, XC1 definitely has them though

>>388221289
Old build.

>>388239701
>get this game out for our new hardware out this year

Also perfomance issues which we all saw

>>388221289

fuck I can't wait god damn a portable xenoblade game that doesn't run at 240p jesus fucking christ muh dikkkkk

>/v/ calling this game ugly

It's not ugly at all, and it's fucking leaps and bounds better looking than the first two games. Xenoblade and X have to have the ugliest character models I have ever seen in a AAA game.

>>388240529
>get this game out for our new hardware out this year
It's been almost two and a half years since their last one was released in Japan, and they don't have to make a new engine this time. That's not rushing.

Also
>ignoring they've said they're still doing polishing

>>388234257
It sounds bad in Japanese as well

>>388221289
>Pyra
>Kaibykaku
>Kisaragi
One of these names is not like the others.

>>388229804
Alright, I'll hold up my end of the deal. Be on the lookout for your delivery.

>>388242391
Looks like all of them are unlike each other.

>>388221289
>faget whines about slowdown
>Don't notice anything
Are you one of those niggers who cry when the framerate drops by a single frame? I'm glad I'm not entitled like you.

Looks interesting, can't say I like the quality of life removal of visual/aural detect warning for enemies. But then again no lyrics for the music. Very major positive.

Any place where I could watch an archive of the stream?

>>388243937
youtube.com

>>388240737
Of course they're going to say that.
Just saying early 2018 would be better for the game than 2017

>>388239975
>>>388221289 (OP)
>presumably old build
It was confirmed to be an old build almost at the end of the stream.

>>388221289
Is that Nia talking with a Welsh accent at 3:50?

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>3 nu males in bottom left
>red box shit taking up another 1/5th of the screen

I JUST WANT TO SEE THE ENVIORNMENTS IN FULL REEE

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Man I read the impressions at Neogaf and they were throwing a shitfit about the combat. Watching the video, I think it comes off as very promising. I love how you can combo arts off of auto attacks, and I love that you have to sacrifice your positioning if you want healing. The elemental arts also look complex which I love. I guess my only worry with it is that it's clearly a combat system that starts out slow and narrow, then gradually opens up to a vast amount of options. That's great and all but it could be a bit tiring when you just want to grind out some smaller enemies.

Otherwise, I've never had any complaints about the character design, the world looks amazing as usual, and the combat looks promising. I'm hyped as fuck for this game. Hope the framerate issues get fixed, but another 3 or 4 months of dev time should be enough to iron that out. If it needs to be delayed to early 2018 so be it.

>>388246117
I'm glad auto attacks are an active part of combat now instead of something you just do passively. Love how arts combo with AA intervals for extra damage/effects

>>388245963
I just want a non-stream-quality preview of the area without Eurotrash talking over the music.

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>>388246507
This is what I've been wanting for a while, something like the XCX videos even though they had narration. Doesn't seem like we'll get it, but at least we'll know less going into the game

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I'm liking the combat system less and less. From what we've seen, there really is now advantage to repositioning yourself if you don't have an art based on positioning. This means that you're going to be doing very little while you just sit there and auto attack. No flipping through arts, no moving to try and get the highground, no weapon switching between melee/ranged, etc.

Looks much more casual than the previous Xenoblade games. But at least the visuals look nice.

>>388233846
stfu kid

>>388246507
It was even worse at E3, you could barely hear anything from the game.

>>388246870
>there really is now advantage to repositioning yourself if you don't have an art based on positioning

did you not notice the huge AoE BRAAAAAAP the wolf boss did or the fact that healing requires picking up health pots now?

>No flipping through arts, no moving to try and get the highground, no weapon switching between melee/ranged, etc.

nevermind you're shitposting

>repositioning shitpost again

>>388246934
You first

>>388246870
It has way more systems than the first Xenoblade, which was already a great game.

>>388221289
>all that damage control on the comments.
Jesus Christ

>>388247061
>shitposting in a shitpost thread

>>388246870
>Looks much more casual than the previous Xenoblade games.
Maybe at first glance, but did you even bother watching much? There is most certainly complicated shit in there with using Blade arts, enemies becoming impervious to certain elements, trying to use chain attacks to undo that, etc.

>>388247038
Party members can pick up heals automatically for you too. They even said so in the stream.

It seems to me that you're the one shitposting.

>>388246117
I, too, wish I was a delusional fanboy.

>>388247329
That shitpost is older than this presentation, so no.

>>388221289
looks like a more whimsical jrpg-ish dark souls. nice.

>>388247329
You mean stuff that was essentially in other Xenoblade games? Particularly the first one.

>>388247061
It's not a shitpost if it's a huge problem with the game.

>>388247560
>particularly
You mean only? And even then at a stretch?

>>388246870
no one plays these for the combat. at least they shouldn't.

>>388225996
X's hud really was hard to read though, even on a 720p tv

Why is /v/ trying so hard to hate on this game when XBC was so loved here?

>>388246117
>Man I read the impressions at Neogaf and they were throwing a shitfit about the combat.
>Sonygaf getting mad at a Nintendo game with anime titties
Wow, colour me surprised. Filthy girl fetishism in this game is not for everyone

>>388247560
If it was in the other games, why is it casual now?

>>388247804
Go falseflag somewhere else.

>>388247680
Mechons, Telethia, elementals, etc all have immunities, some of which can be purged by Shulk using Monado Arts

>>388247752
That's the primary reason I enjoyed the first 2 games. The combat was great. Tons of build variety, battles were relatively quick and painless, you had loads to do when building up your CDs, etc.

Remember, Xenoblade games are 80+ hours long. If it's not an interesting battle system, it'll be a slog by hour 30.

>>388247670
It looked kind of odd to hit while swinging your sword but it wasn't really a huge problem, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but making it so that you can't auto attack while moving is a good solution if you consider the new mechanics related to auto attacks and movement, the new systems seem to be very promising.

>>388247804
Just a few samefagging shitposters like pokebarneyfag for the most part. Just ignore them, they're not even trying anyway

>>388247881
Auto attacks being cancelled on movement weren't in other games.

AI didn't heal you in the other games for doing nothing (partially because Sharla was literally retarded, but also because healing was tied to the B prompt0

You started off with a full set of 8 arts for every battle, meaning that you could easily art-dump a weaker enemy rather than always having to build CDs.

It's not just that it's more casual, it's that it isn't as interesting.

>>388247902
>mechon and telethia
Those aren't variable resistances, they're plot-based immunity in one case and a plot-based monster skill in the other. In the first game there are no real elemental resistances, just a class of enemies that are heavily resistant to non-ether attacks, which doesn't change regardless of what you do.

>>388248018
Repositioning not screwing over your DPS (especially since art charging is tied to auto attacks rather than a strict timer) made the other games much better. Especially because it gave you something to do and let you line up AoE attacks easier without wasting time. As it stands, the most efficient way to deal damage is to literally stand in place and let your arts build up, and then switch to another blade or just art-dump until you get elemental attacks.

>>388247360
if you set them to prioritize healing, hence reducing DPS

>>388246870
X looks fucking retarded, 2 looks realistic.

Friendly reminder not to respond to repositioningfag. None of his garbage is new and he doesn't give a shit about your brilliant reasoning.

>>388247804
the series got popular and gets attacked regularly now. I know there's an insecure falcomfag that pops up in xeno threads I'm sure there's more

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>>388247804
>Why is /v/ trying so hard to hate on this game when XBC was so loved here?
There were a handful of people shitposting every XC thread, and with XCX it only got worse because we had FFXV-kun comparing both games every thread.

I'd say the shitposting in XC2 threads is the average for new games in this board, it's most people that don't plan to get the console the game is on and feel forced to justify their decision by trying to convince themselves and other people with uninformed criticism that most times comes out as ridiculous for any real fan of the game.

>>388248471
>As it stands, the most efficient way to deal damage is to literally stand in place and let your arts build up, and then switch to another blade or just art-dump until you get elemental attacks.
Sure if you're incompetent and can't deal with a more complex and tactical system.

But strange to call it casualised when you can't handle it though.

>>388247902
well I didn't care for the combat in the first, yet invest 150 hours, so... I think I'll manage.

you're right about customization though. some of the strategy came from planning ahead of time. I'm just sort of sick of the whole "go into battle, learn boss' weakness/attacks, reload, prepare properly" song and dance. why more don't allow you to change equipment during battle is baffling. it looks like this will, for weapons at least.

>>388248595
Who cares if it looks realistic? It's meant to be fun, and X's combat was a ton of fun, especially once you were able to start reclassing and combine weapon builds.

>>388248398
There are various ways of getting around Ether resistance/immunity in the original. Monado Purge, topples, etc. Even then, you have to deal with spikes.

In X, there were already 6 elements, enemies that could raise their resistance levels or lower yours, and several arts and weapons that were elemental. So it's nothing new. On top of that, there was overdrive, secondary/tertiary cooldowns, repositioning and attacking, switching between melee/ranged, several classes that you could switch between at will, AND skells, which have their own unique traits.

I know many people complained about X being too complicated, which is why they casualized 2, but that doesn't make it any better. X's combat system was damn near perfect already. Could've done with a bit of tweaking, but there was no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

>>388248471
We don't know that yet, but it's very unlikely that that would be the best option for every given Blade, Art and Skill configuration.

>>388246117
>neofag

>>388248860
That's nowhere near complex, not even as complex as the original, let alone X. It's a straight inferior combat system because it rewards standing still and auto-attacking rather than constantly repositioning yourself.

>>388249010
>getting around ether resistance
There was no such thing, and you got around the non-ether resistance simply by using any ether arts. That was why you brought Melia to handle the evil clouds. There was no trick to it. And resistances in X were static and affected in consistent ways by buffs and debuffs, not sliding around based on attack order and which elements you were using. It's not the same thing at all.

>>388247804
I want to go back. I miss when Nintendo didn't care about this series. and didn't censor it to hell and put in godawful American dubs.

>>388249218
>IP count doesn't raise

go away

>>388249038
>responding to stale bait

>>388249381
It's back to not having an American dub, let's see if it's also not censored.

>>388248905
The combat system being so good is what got me through the doldrums of the original and X. The games slow down, inevitably, during the mid game. If the combat isn't good, I end up just avoiding combat altogether. In X, it was fun to go out and just art-dump a crocodile for some teeth. Battles were painless and could be over in 10 - 15 seconds. Less if I was using a skell.

My main gripe about the original 2 games is that bosses actually weren't hard enough. You never really needed to prepare if you were appropriately leveled. Doing the quests when and where you got them would always leave you more than strong enough to plow through the boss.

Even in X, where the first boss has 85% electrical resistance, you could just plow through her, even if you went with the electrical based class. Well, that is unless you had no other attacking arts and Lin/Elma were underleveled.

>>388221289

The frame drops seem weird in it, not actually relating to the activity on the screen. The battle actually randomly goes smooth for a period.

Makes me think it's issues with the engine not being polished more than anything else. Good chance it can be fixed.

>>388233086
>wants to keep them separate

pretty weak excuse to cut content. especially for no good reason.

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The music is so fucking good, my dudes.

>>388249583
glad we could finally hear the battle theme without the earrape from E3

>>388248176
>You started off with a full set of 8 arts for every battle, meaning that you could easily art-dump a weaker enemy rather than always having to build CDs.

This demo literally showed that you can upgrade arts to be available at the start of the fight.

>>388249709
I'm not sure why you think he would update his shitposting properly. I'm also not sure why you're still responding.

>>388249709
why are you still responding to him? Jesus christ idiots like you are the reason shitposters prevail

>>388249564
I agree with you. But if it leads to an X2 that improves upon X's systems, then I won't have a problem with it.

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>>388249709
That's not what I'm talking about, idiot, I'm talking about you having a full palette of 8 arts. In the demo, they showed an art already hitting its 2nd CD at the start of the battle. In Chronicles/X, you started with a full set of 8 and built up from there.

On top of that, both games also had a 9th 'art' that was a "special skill". In X, that amounted to being the Overdrive activation, which would drain you of 3k tension, but greatly increase your auto attack speed, your movement speed, the recharge on your arts, and the damage you dealt, while also giving you various benefits for racking up points on the counter and using arts in certain orders. IE, Green -> Blue would increase the duration of the Overdrive by 0.5x the counter, meaning you could activate unlimited Overdrive.

In X, you build up to Overdrive. In 2, you build up to access the rest of your arts.

>>388247884
You should take your own advice.

Anyway, I think Rex is growing on me even if his giant diving chaps are still kind of lame.

>>388249859
>>388249826
You guys are the real shitposters here. Don't know why you think that weak attempt would get me to stop dissecting the game. You obviously never played the previous games, so I don't know why you're blindly fanboying for the 3rd one.

>>388249560
>The frame drops seem weird in it, not actually relating to the activity on the screen
Seemed to happen when he moved the camera for the most part.

>>388249564
It's not cutting content, it's just making different design decisions. X and XC are different games in how you explore the world and go about your adventure. If they added things like mechs they'd have to design the world around them, which is what they didn't want to do this time around.
We also don't know yet whether or not you can change your appearance.

>>388249517
that's good to hear. can't stand the American accents after playing the first so much. just feels wrong.

>>388249157
>newfag

>>388250798
It feels wrong that a bunch of American characters spoke with American accents?

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>>388250798
>new los angeles
>american accents feel wrong

Is no armor customization confirmed?
It was so fun to check out what armor you looted after a fight, i'm kinda bummed.

>>388251027
No, we still have no specific information about equipment.

>>388251027
I think it's unlikely since they were level 20+ in this demo and still in their default armor.

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X > 2

>>388251027
there's a cosmetic shop which we havn't seen access to yet and the armors are limited to rings and shit, so I think it's gonna take a xenosaga route where gear doesn't change your looks but there are seperate fashion choices not tied to armor. Nothing confirmed just my thoughts

>>388251207
Wii U games cannot be good. This has been proven multiple times.

Not gonna lie i might have to get a switch for this FFS!

>>388251341
don't respond only report shitposters

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>>388251341
>Mario Kart 8 is better than MK8D because it has firehopping
>Xenoblade Chronicles X has a better battle system and art style than Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>Splatoon had better weapons, balance, stages, and characters than Splatoon 2
>Gyro aiming with the Wii U gamepad greatly improves BotW

>>388251429
Says the person siding with the shitposter.

>>388250313
Are you actually just shitposting? That's exactly what I meant. One of the arts was upgraded in 2 so that its CD is ready as soon as a battle starts. There isn't any reason to believe the rest of the arts can't be upgraded with the same functionality.

>>388251539
>Mario Kart 8 is better than MK8D because it has firehopping
MK8 is very generic, and not to mention lacks any kind of personality.
>Xenoblade Chronicles X has a better battle system and art style than Xenoblade Chronicles 2
All Xeno games have shit combat, and X definitely does not look better than 2.
>Splatoon had better weapons, balance, stages, and characters than Splatoon 2
Splatoon is mobile-tier trash and should be ignored.
>Gyro aiming with the Wii U gamepad greatly improves BotW
BoTW is a generic AAA open world cringefest, and the waggle aiming is in the Shitch version too.
I'd kill myself if I actually was retarded enough to buy a Nintendo console in 2017.

>>388251245
hope you can change costumes. rex looks retarded.

>>388251920
You really have no idea what shitposting is, and you have no idea about what you're talking about.

Upgrading arts has been in prior Xenoblade games. Both of them. This is nothing new. You have to be willfully ignorant to not understand my point, which is why you're on the verge of shitposting. In the stream itself, they even say you have to wait to switch between your other blades to unlock their arts to use. They say it in the fucking stream.

Oh, and they also say that they no longer have to pay attention to the arts, and can "just pay attention to the battle all the time." That PROVES that the game is far more dumbed down than the previous games. You never had time to just sit back and watch them auto attack, you were busy using your arts, repositioning, dealing with your special arts, overdrive, etc.

2 is going to have a shit combat system. This is the first time I wished for a skip-battle feature in a video game, like Jennifer Hepler. And not because I'm bad, but because the combat looks awful. I've no doubt in my mind that everything else about the game is going to be great, but the combat is indefensible.

Do we know how many blades each character can have? They've shown three different ones for Rex so far. Hope there are even more to get.

>>388252440
there's a fuck ton to collect, each person has 3 equipped at most (one probably taken up by the main blade and 2 customization)

>>388252324
>don't respond only report shitposters
>>388252324
You have egg on your face now, huh?

>>388252614
>3 blades only per battle
>which only have 3 arts and an "apply element to auto attacks" """art"""
>So you can only have 9 arts total
>When you could have 8 without having to wait to switch between them in previous games.

It's... shit...

>>388251920
Stop responding you fucking idiot.

MORE MUSIC ON THE WEBSITE WHEN?

>>388253239
THIS SO MUCH

>>388252424
>I've no doubt in my mind that everything else about the game is going to be great, but the combat is indefensible.

Just like the other Xenoshit games lol

>>388253239
Whenever the Japanese marketing starts. I'd give it a month.

Why are there so many fanboys for this game, specifically? Did people really hate X? Everything, besides the music and the story, which I can't comment on yet, looks like it took a step back, as >>388232890 pointed out.

Not that I expected mechs in this game, but all of the other points are still issues.

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>>388253676
Xenoblade Chronicles and X both had great combat systems. 2's is shit.

>>388253948
Nope.

>>388253807
no having those isn't necessarily a downgrade. we don't know if they'd even make sense in the context of this game.

This is supposed to come out this year? That shits getting delayed, it has to.

>>388254496
>OST and voice lines all recorded, two of the last things done in development
It's coming out this year.

>>388254662
>still responding to delayposters

>>388254496
>>388254662
>>388254745
>game comes out
>people start talking about the beginning portions on release day
>"It's getting delayed guys!"

>>388253807
XCX is generally only liked by the U-cult, and the small group of people that enjoyed Gear/Saga for their stories. No one actually likes these games for the combat, except for people who have never played a JRPG before. The general JRPG audience hated X because it's story and character never went anywhere, not to mention the atrocious music. It all comes down to Monolith being well known for their sci-fi RPGs, but secretly their fantasy games are much better. Baten Kaitos is still the best game they've ever made for example.

>>388254496
It's already been rated. Anything they're doing at this point is optimization.

>>388255441
But their sci-fi games ARE their best games. The only game better than X is Gears.

>>388253683
We already got 4, didn't we?
It was the same amount for XCX

>>388252424
>2 is going to have a shit combat system.
It already looks better than X just because your party members aren't useless anymore. Get out of here

>>388252614
Sounds good. I love the idea of exploring the world to collect them.

>>388254662
>coming out in 4 months
yeah nah.

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So we got confirmation on
>Artes fully charged at the beginning of battle
>Comboing artes charge them faster
>movement speed in battle increased from the e3 build
>different weapons have different attack speeds
>Chain attacks
>more customization between party members and blades
>You can mess with the environment to unlock new areas
>OST is godly
>Chain quests
>party members have more dialogue now

This whole game seems to be an improvment already especially on exploration aspect

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>>388259129
Oh and from the looks of it some Blades actually have don't look like the generic ones.Pic related

Why is everyone mad?

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>>388254029

full vid of day 4 is out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_mLCsRmBW0

seems to be better quality than the stream, 2:32:00 for XC2

>>388258798
>whole thing is almost done
>NO IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT TO COME OUT SOON

>>388259957
It certainly looks better than the stream

>>388259940
Fuck off mong

>>388259957
I think the framerate already looks pretty solid most of the time from this upload.

So how big do you expect the party of Drivers to be?

I'm gonna say 7.

Rex, Nia, Tora, the masked dude and the military lady that have yet to be properly introduced and 2 more.

>>388262631
we've seen 3 from the demos

we see another pair in OP's pic

the green scotish lady blade (Hikari) is part of the team at some point

so that's 5 pairs already unless one of the blades dies or something and the Hikari replaces them

>>388262631
7 Drivers and 7 main blades? That sounds like way too much. I would expect 5 and 6.

>>388262824
Well we know of 5 already. I expect at least 6, but one more wouldn't surprise me.

>>388262824
Well, Xenoblade X had like 16 party members (given only 3-4 of them were story relevant).

I wouldn't say it's impossible to give them all narrative moments as previous JRPGs have done it before in a large cast.

Also, not every blade needs to be fleshed out, though I see where you're coming from.

>>388262810
>unless one of the blades dies or something and the Hikari replaces them

This could happen though I don't believe it will since Takashi has stated in preivous interviews that he wants the story to be a more light hearted adventure story.

>>388263107
saying a story is more heartlighted in the xeno series doesn't mean much, xenoblade 1 was a heartlighted game all things xeno considered

>>388263269
Considering it opened with a plot to get revenge for a fallen friend, I wouldn't consider that light hearted.

It only truly started becoming light hearted once Riki was thrown into the mix and even he has his moments of emotion (Melia's scene later in the game).

I do agree with you in general though that there is likely going to be some kind of twist thrown into the plot similarly to previous Xeno games.

>>388263491
XC2 starts with the world slowly dying while empires are waging wars against each other for limited resources, I wouldn't call that any less light hearted than XC1

>>388260303
rushed

Can't remember that there was loading in between cutscenes and combat on Wii and also not on Wii U.

>>388263708
you have a very poor memory

>>388259957
Do watch or rewatch this everyone, it's night and day compared to the livestream. Point framerate shitposters to this presentation from now on.

>>388234018
so wouldn't that mean that playing xenogears or even xenosaga would be almost a relevant as playing XC?

>>388264090
probably, fiora's entire character was a a giant kos-mos reference and we got a zohar contact reference in the XC2 trailer

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>>388227636
>he never made it to Agniratha

>>388264348
excellent, I'll play xenosaga first, then XC2 when it comes out, then XC later. is there a good portable device that can run ps2 emulators?

>>388263884
I think you are lying.
I just checked my copy on 3DS and there is no loading at all between cutscenes (even voiced ones) and gameplay.

>>388221289
How do I have fun playing XCX?

>>388221289
Fuck is the switch that weak of a console

>>388264998
Learn how to cheese the battle system. Explore everything on foot before getting a skell. Complete named NPC sidequests and affinity quests.

>>388265097
Don't watch livestream recordings, watch the official upload: >>388259957

>>388265097
yeah, it looks like crap.
And the art style is also questionable.
I mean I really liked the art style of 1 and even X, but this here looks ... well ... like made for 9 year olds. The character models and textures look terrible.

Imo it looks worse than the Wii one, except that it's hires, I doubt it's 1080p, so probably 720p or 900p upscaled or something weird like that.

>>388264919
there's a loading screen anytime the game changes into CG mode for cutscenes

>>388263708
What? Yes there was.

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>>388265415
The character models are 100% better than those from 1 and X.

>>388266143
this, just more blade babies getting triggered by anime for some reason

>>388249201
outside of some attacks that work better from one side of the enemy (which are still in the game) and reviving fallen party members, how does the first game reward repositioning. You may have an argument in comparison for X, but XC2 and XCX appear to be two different directions based on the first game as a template.

>>388266143
He's shitposting, but your comment is only debatably true with regard to the faces. The rest of the anatomy in X was fine, and both managed to avoid falling back on anime body proportions.

>>388266421
Anon, what are you doing?

>>388266576
wasting my time on /v/, how about you?

>>388265754
I was talking about loading screens between unvoiced in engine cutscenes w/o voice acting and combat/gameplay. That's where this game has loading screens, which is laughable.

I also just checked your claim. It fades to black. Stays there for maybe 1 second tops and that's it. So also BS. In this game it literally says "loading" for at least 5 seconds.

And mind you that was on 3DS. Very weak hardware.

>>388266143
I literally said art style, are you fricking stupid?

>>388266719
(You)

>>388266716
Trying not to respond to months-old bait posted 3 hours ago.

>>388266143
He said art style.
What you are saying is basically "it has more polygons or whatever so it's better", which makes no sense at all. The art style is really weird for this one.

btw. 100% better would be only twice as good, which on a technical level compared to a Wii game would be really embarrassing. We are talking about a 2 generations jump here.

>>388266245
>blade babies can't get triggered over a blade game that's different from the other blade games

>>388266893
mentally challenged I see.

>>388266719
>1 second

try 3-4 on average, just because there's not "loading" text doesn't mean it's not loading

>And mind you that was on 3DS. Very weak hardware.

with gimped as fuck graphics and a non-open world game

>>388267432
Just report him. It's incredibly obvious that he's shitposting.

Assuming that this releases in a few months, it's pretty safe to assume that this was made for the Wii U originally and got shifted to the Switch.

Which would explain the graphics and the bad frame rate.

>>388267119
But it's more in line with the first blade game than X was. Your logic is flawed

>>388267516
It's safe to assume you're an idiot.

>>388267516
confirmed it started production on switch

>somehow managed to make the combat even slower and less dynamic

literally how

>>388267516
Nope it was a switch title since the very beginning. Do your fucking research first

>Unique Monster literally shits on you as an attack
I see Monolith wasn't satisfied with just making players wade through dinosaur-sized piles of shit for items in X.

>>388267432
That's incorrect. I just tried it on my own 3DS and it's 1 second tops. And I'm not even sure if there actually are CGI cutscenes, because those would take up a ton of space. It may simply be a different area for the cutscene, which then requires loading obviously.

In the video above it's about a non voiced in engine cutscene with speech bubbles and it was literally the same area.

If you had watched that video, you would have seen what the guy was talking about.

>with gimped as fuck graphics
Implying that this would look great. Come on. Now you are reaching.

On Wii the original Xenoblade was also a technical marvel. Loading a saved game took almost no time at all. Compare that to the typical PS3 game at that time.

>a non-open world game
Yeah, I guess the original Xenoblade was actually a linear corridor shooter and not an open world RPG. Thanks for telling us here.

>>388266719
wait is https://youtu.be/z_mLCsRmBW0?t=2h49m58s what you're complaining about? "black screens" are in XC1, fuck you for wasting my time

>>388267657
That's when happen when devs try to "streamline interfaces". It always means "make things simpler for dumber folks"

>>388267598
I like XC's art style more than 2's. They're both anime, but I think XC is a better anime.

>>388267978
You hadn't already figured out whining about one or two seconds of loading for cutscenes in a JRPG was desperate shitposting?

>>388267606
Yeah, I guess they started just last year with development. Makes sense.

http://comicbook.com/gaming/2017/07/12/apparently-xenoblade-chronicles-2-was-much-easier-to-develop-tha/

>“The ease or speed of developing Xenoblade Chronicles 2 stems a lot from our having already created this architecture with Xenoblade Chronicles X. The game portion of Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is kind of overlaid on top of that fundamental architecture"

So it's basically the Xenoblade X engine (made for Wii U) ported to Switch.

>>388268273
you're right I'm sorry for shitting up the thread, I really wish the mods would do their jobs. Then again they've let 1 or 2 people ruin metroid threads for 4 years without doing anything about it so I doubt it

>>388268306
(You)

>>388268371
just stop it with this dumbass (you) shit please, you're giving them what they want. Report and ignore

>>388267978
Thanks for helping me out finding the loading.

First of all, you troll already said that this was for so called "CGI cutscenes". So you linked to a CGI cutscene? No, you didn't. It's in engine. And in the exact same area. Which didn't take any loading on Xenoblade on 3DS.

And watch the cutscene to the end. 4-5 seconds of loading.

Thanks for proving my point. That way I don't have to look it up by myself.

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SO who's gonna be demiurge waiting for us in Elysium?

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>>388268660
Ruled over Elysium, created the people of the world and everything.

>>388268660
It's Alvis in every game whether or not he admits it.

>>388268371
Are you fricking stupid?

They literally said in an interview that they are using the Xenoblade Chronicles X architecture. What's the problem with that?

Or is it not okay to discuss or mention this at all now?

Oh yeah, I get it.
Wow, looks so great. Will buy immediately. Graphics look like any other AAA title on the market. WOW. So amazing. 10/10. AAA+++ would buy again.

And I thought this wasn't NintendoGAF.
Create your own personal hype thread on reddit.

>>388268808
Alvis isn't the demiurge, he's straight up god or a higher being

>>388268239
Same here, but that doesn't change anything that I said. XC2 looks and plays more like XC than XCX ever did, so where does >>388267119 get off saying people are bitching about "not muh xenoblade"?

>>388268898
Blade babies is a standard shitpost.

>>388268898
not the guy you're talking with, I disagree. XC2's engine is XCX's and the verticality of the areas shows it, the exploration will be more like X's. Combat wise XCX literally has XC's combat as a base and just adds to it while XC2 remakes XC's combat system. XCX is more like XC if we look at them from a gameplay standpoint, the only caveat being XCX not being plot driven like XC/XC2

So we killed God in XC. Will we kill God again in XB2?

>>388268660
It's Melia, the only living person with memories of Shulk's deeds and final wish for the world.
Rex has to kill her.

>>388269580
makes no sense it'd be a machina if anything

>>388266847.
>>388267113
>The character models and textures look terrible.
It's one thing for another guy to miss that, but for you yourself to not remember what you posted?

>>388269659
What if it's Melia half transformed into a Telethia with her other half maintained by Machina tech?

>>388269734
monolith soft doesn't write stupid shit like this

>>388269125
>Combat wise XCX literally has XC's combat as a base and just adds to it
Not really. XCX completely tosses aside chain attacks in favor of the overdrive system that is far more based on personal combos rather than syncing up with your party. It's a fun system, but it tosses out a lot of the things that I loved about XC. Such as positioning no longer being as vital.

XC2 seems to be much more similar to XC both in terms of combat pace, squad reliance, and mechanics while taking the class mutability of XCX and porting it directly into combat via Blades.

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>>388221289
I was waiting for this
thanks op

>>388269072
Put more effort into your shitposts

>>388269802
If you look at chain attacks from the presentation, they have nothing in common with chain attacks from the original, you don't even use regular arts in them.

>>388269802
positioning has the same impact in XC as XCX. If we're talking about pace and teamwork then yeah I agree with you, but purely looking at the way arts work XCX is closer to XC than XC2 is

>>388234409
>had a godawful story
Fuck you. Though that ending yeah that ending was bullshit.

>>388269491
Zanza wasn't god.

>>388270443
He was clearly God, he had the power to create and destroy.

>>388228374
False

>>388270539
Which was not his own power, as the game explicitly stated.

>>388270695
He had the power of a god, which made him God.

That's how godhood works.

>>388240187
Rock Cave

I just got to Galahad Fortress in Chronicles. How much longer is the game? It feels like it's starting to drag on.

>>388270887
not very long but a good portion

>>388270887
60%.

>>388270887
You're past the halfway mark

>>388252702
>don't respond only report shitposters

>>388270834
Except that it got revoked at the end

>>388271041
By which I mean you're at 60%, not that there's 60% left to go.

>>388270539
learn the difference between god and deimurge

>>388270834
no, he has the equivalent powers of Neo from the matrix

>>388270834
I have a feeling you've tried this idiocy before. It's still stupid.

>>388268825
that's a shitload of salt you got there. Wanna go into business ?

>>388270539
>>388270834
t. Zanza

He was just a human scientist that acquired too much power for his own good.