LawBreakers developer attacks Overwatch on Steam forum

he's right about overwatch but sounds like a bitter cunt and this doesn't make lawbreakers more appealing, it just points out the flaws of overwatch

>>388216108
But he's not wrong though

>>388216108
agreed.
still not gonna play that shit game though.

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Or like, TF2.
Since LB is DOA.

>>388216246
He's wrong about LawBreakers being a good game

"but <other game> is bad!" has never made anyone's game look good, just fyi

Or just play Titanfall 2 because class based shooters suck.

>>388216108
he's not wrong about overwatch.

>>388216323
>powerful but not game-breaking abilities
>every role has a chance at killing every other
>various situational advantages to fit different play styles
You've never played TF2.

>>388216108
I mean Lawbreakers is pretty meh, but he isn't wrong in the slightest about Overwatch since the game literally revolves around Ultimates

>>388216108
He's right.

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>>388216108
Buy my fucking game you bastards, I added gender neutral bathrooms!!!

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>>388216108
and yet one game is hugely successful and the other bleed out the few players it got really fast

>>388216612
Weird, restaurand on my street corner had thosr for around 120 years now... simply labelled "toilets"

>>388216525
nice reading comprehension

I never heard of lawbreakers outside /v/, meanwhile everyone and their mothers knows about overwatch thanks to the cinematics.

If you want people to play your product you have to advertise it somehow.

>>388216612
post the kingdom come dev answer

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>>388216108
>>388216612
Man, I find lawbreakers fun to play, but why do devs have to go and make themselves look like jackasses?

>>388216108
It doesnt matter if it is 'superior' or not. The free market decided.

Sorry cuck bazinga.

>>388216108
Game doesn't run on my toaster, overwatch does. Oops.

>>388216773
>he bought lawbreakers
HAHAHAHA

>>388216432
FUCKING THIS

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>>388216108
He is desperately farming outrage advertising, let the thread die.

>>388216525
You're just bad at TF2. Buff banner, conch, and ubers are far from game breaking, there's shitloads of alternative, highly viable playstyles, and if you think every class can't kill every other class you need to become proficient.

>>388216525
>waaaaah pyro is op
>waaah muh nerf pyro

>>388216704
Doesn't count unless they tweet about it.

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Why would I pay for overwatch or law breakers when paladins exists and it's free?

>>388216908
Post playtime right now.

I'd play Lawbreakers if it was free.
Why would I spend 30 bucks on a game that no one else is playing and looks like every other shooter?

>>388216890
>kotaku article stating overwatch fanboys are mad about lawbreakers when!?

>>388216978
this

>>388216978
Because fuck Hi-Rez

>>388216108
Is that's what they will tell to Nexon when they'll ask where the fuck are their money?

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>>388216982
Would if I could, but alas I'm phoneposting.

It's bad enough for Paladins and Battleborn claiming they weren't trying to copy Overwatch, imagine being the guy that shows up a year late.

And it's only going downhill from here for any Overwatch killers.

>>388216978
>requires third-party account
nah

>>388217234
Battleborn isn't really the same as Overwatch. That doesn't make it good though.

>>388217219
Dumb pussy phoneposter.

>>388217316
Sorry anon. Need a job to pay for my unusuals.

>>388217219
get on your steam profile from browser and click games

>>388216773
cliff bazinga can't keep his dick in his pants when it comes to being an ass

>>388216773
if you can't be a good example then you can be a terrible warning

>>388217381
onlsy neet faggots play tf2 nice try

>>388216964
pyro is one of the worst classes

>>388216525
Every class except for Spy is viable in every situation, Just because you fall for situational traps doesn't make the game unbalanced.

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the fact is that valve set the standard for class based shooters, and it wasnt with gameplay.
Blizzard took valve's playbook and topped it.
They pretty much have to have animated shorts, comics, unique characters, and sparse story. They have to be tailor made to form a cancerous fanbase.
The only way a new class shooter is going to usurp overwatch is to play the advertising game even better. Fuck gameplay, you just need literally everything else.

>>388217234
Paladins can get away with it because it's F2P and seems to be doing well. Battleborn had no excuse because while mechanically it was different, they were too late to downplay their similarities and focus on their differences. Not to mention the game is pretty shitty to newcomers because you have to unlock characters and gear for said characters, which means grinding out the ass or paying for them. Also means that the few people who actually have played a lot will beat your ass constantly.

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>>388217447
That's the same one everyone else sees though, not hard proof.

>>388217505
I used to be NEET before the purple text addiction set in.

>>388217825
then download steam on phone. you should have it anyway for authorization

>>388217825
How do you play this shit for 4k hours and not only not drop it, but fail to notice the abyss of skill ceiling and potential between classes and develop an addiction for fucking digital cosmetics.

>>388217825
>95% idling

>>388216908
black box conch

every else is bad in pubs. nice game.

>>388217736
Basically. They took the concept of having background lore not directly expressed in-game, but where as Valve did comics and shit Blizzard just does shorts and then apes autistic fan theories off tumblr. Hell they canceled two tie-in novels because they contradicted a few popular fan theories.

Also they never bothered to address how both teams can have the same character. At least TF2 bothered to explain that one of the brothers just cloned the mercenaries that the other hired

>>388218020
That's what I took the screenshot of. It doesn't have the launchable library for obvious reasons, just the games tab listed as "Library".

>>388218073
>not only not drop it
Nothing good to play.
>but fail to notice the abyss of skill ceiling and potential between classes
Sick strawmanning. Every class can still kill every class despite sniper being able to lock down any hallway or the difference between a gibus engineer and godlike engineer being spychecking.
>develop an addiction for fucking digital cosmetics.
Pretty colours!

>>388218106
0% idling. I always got all my drops the normal way.

>>388218127
Utter trash. Black cocks and 1 hp/s won't save you from a fourth nigga.

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>>388216108
Post yfw LawBreakers is flopping harder than Battleborn

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>>388218502
Hold your horses there Randy

>>388216108
What the fuck was Cliff Noplayerinski thinking by not releasing his game on the xbone?
Most gears of war fanboys would have get the game no matter how shit it was

>>388216108
Overwatch proved that the west can do cute girls too. Why would I play some SJW looking game with ugly old hags?

Fuck Cliffy "Cuck" B

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>>388218828

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>>388216108
>Wulf
So many furries in game development. Ironic he'd attack Blizzard, the literal 24/7 furcon of the industry.

He's not wrong about Overwatch, though.

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>>388218484
There is no strawmanning. You are a sick, oblivious man and I hope you realize how busted TF2 is soon.

t. someone who held on in hopes of balancing for far too long and would have probably surpassed your playtime if he hadn't stopped years ago

>>388218915
Goddamn he even doubles down on it, hahah.

>>388218604
It may not be at Battleborn numbers YET, but it looks to be on an even steeper decline relative to launch date. Not the anon you replied to, but I give it a month or two tops before the numbers start to be near each other.

>>388219097
You claimed I denied the class skill disparity and attacked that claim which I never made. That's a strawman.

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>>388218604
>>388218502
Check it by yourself anon, Battleborn was released May 3 2016, 18 days later after release it still had an average of 2,137 players

LawBreakers 18 days after release has only 633 players

>>388216108
That cuck shirt was very accurate.

>>388218915

This pic is so amazing I don't even know where to begin. It's like some parody come to life.

>>388216108

I was 1-shoting everyone in Lawbreakers with gunslinger, talking out of his fucking asshole. Even the guy with a pistol/knife can 1-shot everyone.

>>388216612
Haha what a fucking cuck. I'm so happy his have is failing.

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>their game is shit so ours isn't

>>388216612
Didn't help sell it did it.

WHY WON'T MY GENERIC SHOOTER SELL WELL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>388218915
The left really gets triggered by the word cuck

>>388219375
I ALWAYS WIN, CLIFFY, I ALWAYS WIN
I'M BADASS

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>>388216108

He's not wrong lol

>>388217736
Except that the Valve animated shorts are a lot better.
Not graphically

>>388216108
What was the exact reason for lawbreaker's failure? over-saturation? cliffyb's political shit? no waifus?

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I'm sick of abilities in every fucking game. Why is this what had to become popular rather than literally anything else? Can't you just have multiple weapons that serve the purpose instead of a button that does a job for you? Abilities are such a shit trend and I hope that the failure of lawbreakers and every game like it (sans overwatch because blizzard lol) is a wake up call to stop this shit.

>>388218137
>Hell they canceled two tie-in novels because they contradicted a few popular fan theories.

Proof? Which theories?

>>388218137
Where in the lore does it say that because you're completely full of shit

>>388220193
>Why is this what had to become popular rather than literally anything else?
They want the MOBA audience.

>>388216108
Someone ask him "But what if I want to play with other people?"

>>388216612
This ensures I will never buy this game. "Unearned moral superiority" indeed

>>388216978
best girl

>>388216108
Anyone knows the budget for lawbreakers?
Is this gonna be the end of Cliff?
Randy wasted 40 million dollars on battleborn, but he is the owner of the company, Cliffy will have to sell all his cars and force her wife to prostitution to be able to make a new game

>>388216108
I love it when developers have public mental breakdowns.

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>>388216612
Buy my game first, white man, and then we'll talk.

Wanted to buy lawbreakers after the beta because it was pretty fun, decided to wait and see what the player count would be like. I'm glad I waited.

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>>388216657
It's only successful because it's made by Blizzard and has waifus. Not its gameplay.

>>388216108
as been asked on this board many times... has going negative ever worked in vidya?

>>388216108

>Played Lawbreakers in closed beta
>Get instakilled all the time

>Play Overwatch
>Killing people all the time, not getting one-shot minus ults which usually aren't directed at me.

I think this dude's lying. Plus Lawbreakers reeked of a free to play game before they put a price wall on it.

Is Lawbreaker fun ? It seem sad to make a multiplayer shooter in such a saturated market. Hell, if the game was Third Person, it would already be different from other shooters.

>>388216978

It's F2P (third and second worlders), made by fucking High-Rez, awful character design (not saying OW is better but still)

All these shitty team-based/with abilities shooters are utter garbage and babbies first FPS

>PLEASE BUY MY MEDIOCRE GAME THAT NO ONE WANTED BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER MEDIOCRE GAMES THAT PEOPLE WANTED PLEASE BUY MY GAME

>>388219375
> More positive reviews than players.
Lol what the fuck. So they all thought it was GOAT for like a day?

>>388220531
if theres one thing the internet is good for, its watching people make mistakes

>>388216210
fpbp

>>388216773
A simple matter of pride and ego. The simple of matter of fact is that Lawbreakers deliberately went against newer class based shooters which meant inevitable comparisons to Overwatch despite TF2 still being the definitive class shooter.

>>388218915

Post the one with him and Shillary Clinton

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>OW
>Lawbreakers
>unironically discussing any of thoses
blizz babies are getting mad i'm sure

>being unable to kill someone
>being one shot
which is it?

>>388216108
He's right about Overwatch being shit, at least.

>>388220690
Isn't /v/ based on negitivity with vidya games

>>388220658

tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people that have never played a blizzard game in their life and still do not play other blizzard games, are playing Overwatch.

You can say it's not gameplay all you want, but the numbers and retention prove you're living a delusion.

Face it, when Blizzard makes a game, it defines or dominates the genre.

>>388216978
I want to rape a Ying while the other 2 clones are forced to watch.

>>388220690
If you have an enormous fanbase who see you in a positive light? Sure. But the current fanbase for lawbreakers is practically made of pity and buyers remorse.

>>388216978
Because it's free.

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>make a shitty f2p chinkshit nexon le """""""arena"""""" team based fps
>uh oh our chink overlords are pissed and think this thing is going to flop quick put a price on it

This entire thing stinks of foreign money laundering, at best.

>Blizzard adds stuns into Overwatch
>say "Overwatch has stuns"
>FUCK STOP ATTACKING BLIZZARD JESUS FUCK MAN

>>388216108
>If you like playing a game that has a playerbase
>If you like playing a game that is already dead

fixed

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>>388217037
>Why would I spend 30 bucks on a game that no one else is playing and looks like every other shooter?
Because fuck you bastard

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Titanfall 2 has better movement, weapons, and buffs than Lawbreaker.
Quake III:Arena, Unreal Tournament 2k4, and Tribes still have player bases and play better than Lawbreaker without mandatory "abilities".
Paladins is free and plays better than Lawbreaker.
There is literally no god damn fucking reason to give that manlet your money.

But he is right?

>>388221481
b-but anon LawBreakers is the DARK SOULS of hero shooter games!!!!

>>388216612
Gender neutral bathrooms are fucking weird, though

The only reason for them not to exist is that building two rooms instead of one is more costly

I can assure you that most women don't want to piss in the same room as a dude that's shitting

>>388216108
Crazy-ass Nathan is taking one for the team.

Funny that nobody is talking about Quake Champions. Is it that forgettable of game?

>>388216978
I'm hesitant to play paladins because at the drop of a hat hirez can pull another tribes once it stops printing money.

This is definitely the first time a cliffy b rep dissed another game!

If I want NOTOVERWATCH, there's Paladins.

If I want fast and fun arcade shooter, there's Titanfall.

If I want old school shooter, there's Quake Champions or Live or any other old game. They probably all have more players than this turd.

No one wants an fps from Nexon. No one wants and fps from Gears of War Chaddy D. If this stupid pleb wanted to make another game, he should have swallowed his pride and helped make a new UT.

none of this $60 multiplayer only bullshit

you get $30 no multiplayer because nobody plays it bullshit

>>388221749
>quake used to be a tech demo for idtech.
>quake champions doesn't even use idtech6

You know its shit.

Here's not Genji! He's proficient in melee and can double jump. What other first person shooter allows you this much freedom?
Here's not Mercy! She can fly and throws Zeny--I mean healing orbs that stick to people.
Here's not McCree! He's got sonic ar--err, a tactical knife that pulses to detect any enemy targets. It's really cool and hasn't been done before.

Overwatch? We were in development and had these ideas on the table before they were even an idea. Can I hear a #QUAKE #THROWBACK #TOTALLYORIGINAL #ESPORTS

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>>388221605
I know we're just fucking around, but I also want to add that Team Fortress 2 has a server browser with custom maps and game modes. All also free.

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>>388221937
>Quake Champions

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>PC gamers bought Unreal, Unreal Tournament etc. and made him what he is
>All PC gamers are filthy piratefags! I'm going to consoles
>Xbox gamers bought Gears of War, made him what he is
>All Xbox gamers are cheapskate faggots that buy used games only! I'm going to PC!

I have to admit I never liked CliffyB but I've always hated how he shittalks his userbase when they're the ones who bought his games

>>388220772
The game is fuckin' great. The fluid movement of titanfall, but with more variety and in a more arena-ish setting.

Which is not to say they don't deserve to fail after how completely ignorant of the market their marketing team apparently are.

>>388216432
Every new FPS game I try just reminds me of how much I like Titanfall and I just go back to playing that.

>>388220193
Because it's fun

>>388222378
The dude probably has a massive ego after Gears of War inspired shitty chest high wall combat. He should have bit his tongue though about Xbox users now nobody will want to play his game, much less PC users burnt by his comments years earlier.

>>388219773
It hurts because it's true. They aren't stupid, they're just ashamed of themselves.

>>388218780

>The west can do cute girls
>Ironically, Mei is the cutest.

Huh.

>>388216108
Holy shit this industry is dead.

>>388222874
What do you mean "ironically"? Japanese developers don't just design Japanese girls

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>tfw you don't care about hero shooters or moba and can enjoy the shitstorm from the sidelines

>overwatch
You mean diversity fortress 2

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>>388223017
This

>>388216108
Fuck, this guy said exactly what I was thinking.

>Being unable to kill enemies because they're invulnerable or shielded
>Losing the game because somebody pressed a button that instantly kills your whole team

Same problem in WoW, you can't kill anybody because everbody's a fucking healer with 12 panic buttons.

Blizzard I love you but god damn.

He's not wrong though, Overwatch has dogshit fucking characters like Doomfaggot, Hanzo, and pre-nerf Roadham who revolve around one-shotting you instantly or not. This kind of character type is 100% awful game design.

>>388216246
>>388216453
>>388216559
>Complaining about stuns and ults in OW

Literally gold shitters, how are you so bad at videogames? Like nigga just either don't go out of position or avoid the fucking ult, it's not even that hard. You can't even get good at one of the easiest to play FPS games on PC, what the fuck is wrong with you?

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>>388221351
Talking about Overwatch's gameplay is attacking it, anon. You're only allowed to talk about waifus.

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>>388223206
Ay yo hol up

You is sayin I can be a nigga and wreck shit up all african tribal warrior my nigga?

Give them wite bitches the bbc?

Real shit?

>>388218780
You've got a point. You should just fuck off and get a different hobby.

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>>388218502
Fucking good. Fucking GREAT, this means copycats just might learn from this flop's example. I would hope that the motherfuckers who think that they can create yet another Hero Shooter or MOBA when the market is already ridiculously oversaturated with them might be able to look at this game's performance and think: "maybe we shouldn't"
Literally every single time this happens, they deserve it. You can't compete with a media giants this late in the game.

>>388223478
>This kind of character type is 100% awful game design.
Exactly. It's anti-fun to just die with nothing you can do other than "have better gamesense so you know where the sniper moved to".

>>388218780
>Overwatch proved that the west can do cute girls too
Thats retarded, most of the art direction team are zipper heads, remember that doc about how overwatch characters looked like anime because some actual japanese people were behind the designs of some of the characters?

>>388216108
He's literally right though

>>388222068
underrated post.

>>388217157
Bump, fuck Hi-rez. They killed tribes

>>388216890
Worked out well for Battleborn didn't it?

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>>388216108
I mean, he's right. But that's just a reason to play Paladins because their itemization system fixed all those issues.

>>388225190
>hi-rez keeps the tribes servers up despite it definitely operating at a loss
>they even made patches years after it was dead
>they made every tribes game ever free
Why do they hate it so much?

>>388223494
>Implying positioning isnt basic to any game, even old school arena shooters
>implying the over all game design of OW isnt shit
>implying they havent been "balancing" the game since launch
>implying the level design isnt so shit that reduces positioning to grop up behind a shield right in a choke

Wew, lad.

>>388216108
He may be bitter but he's not wrong.

>>388216108
>losing the game because somebody pressed a button that instantly kills your whole team
I hate this meme. I can't think of a character that literally does that. If it's meant in an hyperbole way then I'm we can find something a long the lines of that in almost every game these days.

>>388216108
It's funny how at the top he literally described TF2.

>>388216108
He's right.

>>388220282
Nah youre literally a retard. There was a whole comic series in tf2 about how they were all clones. Not my fault you are only familiar with random things youve heard and didnt actually play tf2 when it was in the height of its popularity

>>388225567
TF2 was better than OW, but they have similar issues. He's right that most of that stuff is pretty much unfun.

>>388225567
Except there's no press 1 button to insta kill beyond sticky traps and headshots, and there's no stuns in TF2.

>>388220843
AS one of the frequent players, it's a pretty fun game. If they do a free weekend or something you should try it. I definitely see it closer to TF2 than OW, OW being compared to LawBreakers is like trying to compare American football to European football. Yeah they are both sports, but barely have anything in common.

>>388216108
Overwatch has diversity. This is more important to me.

>>388216432
Titans in titanfall are literally different classes. Suck my nads

>>388216210
>>388216246
>>388216310

"somebody pressed a button that instantly kills your whole team"

I bet some of you are /k/ faggots who would object if that logic was applied to a gun. There's a lot of nuance behind building ult, positioning, aim and comboing. But sure let's just say it's a button press, that'll show em. It's not like everything in every game is done with buttons.

>>388224081

>Exactly. It's anti-fun to just die with nothing you can do other than "have better gamesense so you know

This is why most FPS', Fighting Games, and MOBA things are shit though. If you're not psychic, it's pointless to bother

>>388225796
I know we're fucking around but LawBreakers also has ~~diversity~~

thing is the characters design are still boring, while Blizzard spends a lot of effort in making their heroes unique, even if ~~diversity~~ triggers some people

>>388216525
The game has like 8 years of balancing bruh

They even nerfed the fucking stock nade launcher, you know this, come on

>>388225868
>If you're not psychic, it's pointless to bother
Or just have things set up where you get to duel your opponents instead of them having a silent instant kill that they may have only gotten because their ping is higher than yours?

>>388216612
So an unisex bathroom?

>>388216978
It's amazing how many people are willing to eat shit as long as it's free

>>388218604
Has someone actually tweeted these figures at him?

>>388216108
Which game should I play if i want to play with other people?

>>388216704
first reply best reply

>never made an original game in his life
>blatantly stole everything from Kill.Switch for his biggest franchise
>surprised when his shitty Overwatch clone flops

lmao what a fucking cuck

>>388225919
Character design in OW is shit tho, outside the muh diversity shit they are pretty bad, dont make me start with soldier please, even TF2 characters have more charm, i fucking hate nu-blizz their fucking dreamworks design is fucking bullshit.

>>388216612
BLESZINSKI

>>388225868
>>388224081
Spoken like true shitters. I bet you wish fighting games were all like smash brothers because combos are too hard. There is nothing wrong with being required to fucking learn some common sense about the game before you expect to do good. I mean are you seriously saying that having good positioning and being aware of your surroundings is "being psychic"? Youre straight up delusional. Why should you not be expected to be aware of whats going on in a fucking gunbattle where everyone is trying to kill you? I don't play overwatch or lawbreakers but these complaints sound like you guys are whiny fucking babies.
>REEEEEE WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION AND LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT THE GAME IM PLAYING

>>388221642
>I can assure you that most men don't want to piss in the same room as a woman that's shitting

Come on now

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>play cuckbreakers

Hard pass on that shit.

>>388225861
Overwatch is shit, you literally just push a button and you move forward. Pushing a button makes you literally fire.

Lawbreakers is special because you uh, play it with your mind
yeah

>>388226271
They're just sort of dull IMO. Visually they're very overdesigned.

>>388226330
You sure seem defensive about this. Do you exclusively play snipers?

> Lawbreaker VS Overwatch

This is the state of the video game in 2017.

>>388226396
I didn't fucking say that can you read

>>388226434
TF2 is best because server admins can improve the game by unbinding all your keys.

>>388226437
No, I do not play snipers. Im just not a whiny baby that gets mad that position is important. What is your counter argument to that idea? How could you even try to say that the player should be rewarded for being ignorant and not considering their actions?

>>388226330

>This triggers the FGC anon.

>>388226475
What video game?

>>388226561
>this triggers the partygame casual

test

>>388226004
The question is how much of the abstraction are you willing to remove to make these "I would've needed information X"-moment's not appear.
The game's longevity will suffer as a result. Reaction time will be the most important thing if you boil it down to an obvious rock-paper-scissor.

>>388218502
I enjoy the shitposting as much as the next guy, but let's be real here: Lawbreakers isn't nearly as bad of a game as Battleborn is.

>>388225735
>no stuns
vanilla TF2 maybe
but good on you for avoiding nu-TF2, never gonna touch that turd again

>>388216108
I was interested in LawBreakers, but the douchey, tryhard mentality of the Devs has really turned me off the game.

>>388226523
So, you don't want to actually have to fight anyone, because you're afraid you can't win if you don't get an instant free kill?

>>388216978
Because oaladins feels like a chinese rip off of Overwatch

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>>388216108
He's not wrong, although his game and the entire "hero shooter" meme is just as shit.

>>388216432
But Titanfall 2 ruined Titans by making them class based.

If you want a good game play Titanfall 1.

>>388226679
Just make it have no, or very close to no, instant kills. Paladins does it well. Most of the possible instant kills at least give you a good hint that they're coming, rather than you needing to "gamesense" which corner the sniper is camping now.

>>388226685
The Sandman is the closest thing to a "stun," and even with that you can still move.

Unless you take seriously the holiday punch that nobody but friendly heavies use for taunt kills.

>>388226708
Not at all. Youre pulling points out of thin air. Im saying players should be punished for not paying attention to their surroundings in a game where position and team cooperation is the literal point of the game.

>>388226880
No if you want good Titan gameplay you play neither because it's way to simplistic in both.

>>388226427
The one on the right looks like a tranny

>>388226925
>paying attention to your surroundings
>knowing when someone is around a corner you can't see, who can instantly kill you before you can react thanks to lag

>>388225310
That is some high quality waifu. Are all of them this good?

>>388226427
Both look really ugly so I'm not sure what you're trying to show me here, yellow fever boy

>>388227006
The pink haired girl on the right should answer your question.

>>388226995
>what is meta-game

>>388226491
Are you a fucking idiot? Of course I know that's not what you said, I'm saying that what I said is the more important statement, do I have to spell that out for you? Well I guess so since I just fucking had to you fucking spastic.

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>>388226976

If you want good Titan gameplay, you get in on this shit

>>388227164
SEQUEL WHEN

>>388227092
Oh, sorry, I forgot the metagame revolves around having the more powerful psyker on your team to predict that.

>>388226995
If you are experiencing high lag in overwatch matches, that is literally your own fault. Or any game. Get better internet or dont play games that require quick reactions to situations such as that. Sure, instant kills suck and im not defending them, but youre placing too much blame on your own ignorance and problems

>>388216612
That is would been more useful if the characters had to use the bathrooms at some point.

>>388227207
Right after Bad Company 3.

>>388227245
>it's your fault someone else has high lag
O

>>388216432
Or you could play something that isn't a shitty EA game?

>>388227139
How is it a more important statement? Don't quote me perfectly apart from a few words and then say "come on man" right after, of course I had no idea what the fuck you meant.

>>388224081
It's not an issue of "snipers" though, I don't mind Widow because you need to have aiming skill to even do decent with her. But when you have fucked up 100 meter size instant kill hitboxes like Doomshitter it's terrible game design.

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>>388216108
If you remove the 1-shot, that literally describes WoW.

>>388216108
>>releasing an unoriginal middle of the road game in an over-saturated market
>>being this salty when it flops

you can't make this shit up, john

>>388227213
It's literally impossible to now have a meta game established with the current narrow, choke-point focused map design.
Having a game that has any kind of skill ceiling without a meta-game is not do-able either way.

>>388226330
Overwatch is already Smash. There are characters who take aiming skill like traditional FPS games then there are characters where all they have to do is get within effective range of their "I win :^)" ability and you are powerless to stop them.

>>388221126
>retention
Nigger, Overwatch has gone the way of HotS. The game lasted a few months longer than your typical console shooter, I'll agree, but the wait times now are long as fuck now. Just last week my friend and I had to wait ten fuckin' minutes to find a match. Overwatch is on life support.

>>388226330

But anon, Smash Brothers has combos too, at least recently.

I'll take a fall and say "Trying to play Tekken 7 after not playing Tekken since 3 is a pain in both mind and fingers. There's no way anyone who hasn't been riding the Tekken express non-stop could really get into it." Shit hurts my fingers trying to do combos with wonky ass timings after an hour of training mode grind. I can pay attention to my surroundings all I want, but I'll inevitably make a mistake since I'm not perfect and suffer for it.

>And one can have good positioning in a gun-game, but still get attacked from behind and die since you can't see everything all the time without hacking, and with today's modern asshurt cam / "THIS PLAYER KILLED YOU" notifications, people will inevitably chase you down if you're doing too well. That, or leave the match if you're doing -way- too well.

>>388227310
Nah it aint, but if you really think that every single time you die its because the enemy has higher ping than you, youre being delusional again. Just dont fucking play online games in that case, its something that is going to happen at least once to you due to the nature of the internet. All these things you are complaining about can be applied to literally any online competitive game.
>get killed
>HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW A SNIPER MIGHT BE UP ON A VANTAGE POINT AND SNIPING?
>HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW HE WOULD BE AROUND THE CORNER WHILE I WAS ROAMING ALONE WITHOUT MY TEAM TO ASSIST ME?
>HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW AN ONLINE PLAYER MIGHT LAG SOMETIMES??????
>EVERY TIME I DIE ITS NOT MY FAULT

>>388226427
both are not good, desu

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>>388227310
Good think the netcode makes sure that a "really high ping player" loses.

>>388227280

>Bad Company 3

If it's even 50% as fun as BC2, I'd actually get Origin for it.

Card games were ruined.
Team shooter were ruined.

Guess which genre is next?
> Dawn of War 3
> Sudden Strike 4
> Age of Empires 1 modern remake
> Age of Empires 4
> Iron Harvest

>>388219097
Stop arguing with someone who claims to own a single unusual

They're basicially a self admitted retard and might actually have autism, not that there's anything wrong with that. Just don't argue with TF2 players.

>>388221126

>Face it, when Blizzard makes a game, it defines or dominates the genre.

Then why the fuck is Path of Exile 27 times better than Diablo 3?

>>388227703
With the design of Battlefront I honestly think that Dice is too far gone to ever pull it off.

>>388225379
They made one patch a solid year after it died. It died because they shifted all of their operating focus on making a MOBA to jump on the hype train of current trends when they already had a thriving FPS. Tribes died because they didn't tend to it.

From a business perspective, Smite did them well. As a person who loved Tribes, I refuse to play another game of theirs for abandoning it for ages.

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>>388216773
>>388219489
>Reverse-SJWs triggered as fuck and have to have an emotional, abrasive outburst.
Ha hah! Every fucking time.

>>388227812
Diablo 3 actually has more players than PoE. Thanks to consoles. Really makes you think.

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>>388216108
>mfw I went back to TF2 after OW

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>>388227940

>More players means it's better!

I mean it's true in terms of business, but not in terms of actual gameplay. Look at League of Legends.

>>388227812
PoE is tedious nonsense for oldfags to feel superior. D3 is crushing it, and that won't change anytime soon.

>>388216108
One is a hero shooter, one is a arena shooter. Hes not wrong.

>>388227597
Well, I mean its not literally impossible to get into tekken. All it requires is the same amount of dedication it took at literally any point in the series to get into it. If you dont want to learn the complexities of a game known for being painfully in depth like tekken, then dont fucking play tekken. You should expect a game to change its entire system to appease your personal interests because the core fanbase has grown to love what has already been established. The grind of learning combos, how to low parry, how to tech certain grabs, matchups, block strings, etc, are the appeal of tekken within itself. If that doesnt sound fun to you, dont play. Also, what is wrong with not being perfect and making a mistake? That is how life works. You will never do something flawlessly all the time right from the get-go. Same as overwatch. Oh no, a player killed you from coming up from behind. That shit just happens man. You cant be in complete control and flawlessly win every single time. It goes against the nature of reality to expect some shit like that. Also i dont even know what you mean about the killcam hunting shit. Unless youre camping in one single spot the entire match that is completely irrelevant.

>>388227812
Yet the market is all Diablo 3, which means it dominates the genre.

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>>388227683
I'm amused as fuck that his name carries so little weight after all his accomplishments. Dev-celebs really are throw away pieces.

>>388227597
My little cousins literally started with 7.

Maybe you should stick to smash like the trash you are.

All memes aside, we can all agree law breakers actually looks pretty cool? It's just a shame no one bought which in turn caused more people not to buy it because it's online only

>>388227310
MY

>>388228113
>Crushing it
Must be why D3 is completely deserted and nobody ever talks about it.

>>388227940
>>388228113
Got any numbers to back that claim up? Oh wait, no you don't, because Blizzard never releases player counts.

Blizzard knows they fucked up with Diablo 3. Its a piece of shit that got universally canned in reviews. Thats why they canceled an entire expansion and have dropped all further development from the game. Now they're trying desperately to recoup the losses by trying to sell the necromancer class as DLC and no one is taking the bait. Shits dead, son.

Can someone post screenshots of the supposed SJW characters from this game?

>>388228113
Have you actually played D3?
Even with the Necromancer DLC is a complete mess up.

>>388228318
Blizz shill plz go.

>>388228153

>All it requires is the same amount of dedication it took at literally any point in the series to get into it.

5 hours with Tekken 3 and I was PRETTY COHERENT for a noob waste of oxygen. 5 hours with Tekken 7 and I'm shaking even thinking about going online and wasting my time getting slaughtered. Nothing clicked.

>What's wrong with not being perfect and making a mistake?

People like >>388228370 >>388226330
that guy are elitists who if in a team game, demand perfection or he becomes a nigger gorilla and starts screaming in your ear about how you suck. In terms of fighting games, not being perfect means an inevitability of loss at my admittedly low skill level for Tekken 7 in particular. If there's no real point to bother in the end, why bother?

>>388228459
I'm playing it and loving it. No shilling here, I'll enjoy it until I can't find a full lobby

>>388216108
man not even Battleborn was this pathetic

>>388218915
he looks like a fucking mongoloid.

>>388216108
Remember the gearbox tweet mah man

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>>388220658

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>>388228845
>not even Battleborn was this pathetic

>>388218915
The message and that fucking photo next to it is just perfect.

>>388226427
>right
>white
I don't think so.

>>388216108
So how's the game on PS4?
As dead as PC? 30 fps?

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>>388216108
Salty as fuck

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>>388216108
>>388216108
He's not wrong blizzard, how about fact checking your own game before sending out damage control marketing agencies.

>>388229249
He's pretty wrong though, but I'm sure you'll throw out some shit green text meme shit without actually explaining how he is right.

>>388226681
Then why is flopping harder than battleborn? >>388219375

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That description really says it all, cliffy is fucking delusional

>>388225861

I think this thread proves that any game worth a merit of skill will die. Fucking Overwatch shitters.

>>388229979
Hi Cliff

>>388229979
Yes, I'm sure you're really good at the mousing over and clicking things.

it doesn't look like a bad game. It's shame all the hard work that went into this game is being wasted with this PR guy's unprofessional antics.

It's very easy to say Overwatch ults take zero skill because LOL YOU JUST PRESS BUTTON but he's not even taking into account positioning or anything making is point moot. This criticism doesnt work because everyone knows not every Ult is made for taking out entire teams and they be easily dodged if you and your team are paying attention. Oh and he ignores the fact that Lawbreakers is a mashup of generic shit whether it be the characters,maps,the music and other shit It literally does nothing original not even zero gravity

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>>388216108
you tell 'em gritty hero shooter dude who isn't going to be looking for a new job soon

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>>388216978
You don't pay to play, you pay to keep others out.

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>>388218502

>>388231641
Fucking this
If you have money to spare you should never waste your time with 3rd and 2nd World trash

>>388216612
Why do they keep pandering to those mentally ill freaks? All of them HATE games and wouldn't be playing them anyway. Trying to appease them just drive away normal gamers who hate those degenerates.

>>388216108
kek

meanwhile blizz don't even remember lawbreakers exists, fucking based blizz

>>388216108
As much as full butthurt this is, he's still 100% correct. Overwatch is everything i don't want in a """""competitive"""""" game

>>388216612
Wait is this in lawbreakers or overwatch?

>>388231931
>I don't know what I am talking about and I am stupid.

>>388232213
Problem is, they're pandering to a crowd of people that wouldn't want something like Lawbreakers either.

>>388216108
He's right though.

>>388232275
Lawbreakers
>>388232347
Fuck off back to tumblrco

>>388232404
No you. Faggolrco

>>388232213
this
Overwatch is literally a kiddie shooter that takes zero skill.

So what was the reason why cliff hates xbox?

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>>388229847
>that whole description
Cliffy is dangerously close to BADASS territory.

>>388232275
It's in lawbreakers.

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They may break the law, but they won't break even.

>>388232627
People want casual shooters, who would have guessed?

>>388232627
Agreed fellow /v/ user, fuck that kiddie-bumpered, on-the-rails "combat". I'm a skilled gamer and legendary game designer Cliff Bleszinski made just the right game for us.

Was interested in lawbreakers but kind of lost track of it. Pretty sad to see it has completely failed. Looks worse than Blunderborne.

>>388233258
I wasn't even defending the steaming pile of shit Lawbreakers is you obnoxious cancerous faggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEDetLi78OY
dis isn't utopia
dis is the real trashpile of history motherfucka'

The problem with TF2 is that half of the classes have an incredibly low skill ceiling. Being really fucking good at sniper makes you a god among men, being really fucking good at heavy or engineer makes you slightly more useful than the heavy/engineer who just started playing 2 weeks ago. Classes like scout and sniper are OP as fuck, but only if you get really good at them.

>>388232498
look at this triggered SJW subhuman

Mindbreakers

>>388233530
Yeah we are looking at you.

>>388216108
Hes not wrong about OW. But hes a stupid bitch who thinks LB is worth playing. Why would i play a shitty version of Unreal style gameplay with ugly ass heroes and no TDM/DM modes?

Fuck that gay shit QC looks 100x more appealing. LB is ugly as sin.

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>go into work
>make video for your game that nexon spent a gorillion dollars on
>get fewer views than a hi-rez video

>>388233480
>flies around corner
>literally one-shots two guys
So the devs really are pandering retards.

>>388225861
hahaha how are you not bored of that dull fucking game yet

>>388234028
what in the fuck, why? what happened

>>388234273
went f2p just recently

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>>388216108
how dare me criticise overwatch.... i'm literally shaking...

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>>388234028
Soon.

>>388216108
He's not wrong though.
But I'm still not going to buy LB.

>>388234407
sure wish it was f2p to begin with

>>388223997
i love how retards like you keep throwing around the term 'oversaturation' when really lawbreakers doesn't play like any of the other hero shooters and is actually a decent bit of competition, providing a faster paced game but with hero shooter mechanics. why are blizzdrones like you so offended by it's mere existence? if the market was oversaturated then it would be a like for like clone of overwatch, but that's not the case. so why keep using that word? just to try and sound like a market analyst?

Whats a Lawbreaker? The next "tf2 killer"?

>>388235346
did you recycle this post from your battleborn pre-order defense

>>388221126
more like it ruins it and sets cancerous trends, now every fucking shooters need heroes and ults.

>>388234930
Wait what? It only ever had a peak of 45k? That's fucking crazy low for the amount of hype the game got.

>>388236647
pretty much
blizzard has a dedicated base of fanboys and this gives them a lot of leverage in ruining game types as other aaa publishers that everyone hates try to imitate their games to imitate their success

>>388235346
>but that's not the case
even the devs themselves are making comparisons
I know it's mostly just to shift the blame onto a more successful game, but come on now

I would play the shut out of lawbreakers if it was f2p
30 bucks for a dying community is too steep of a price

>>388216108
Sounds like lawbreaker devs are shit at overwatch

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>>388236810
and they sold nearly 4m copies

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>>388220193
Imagine a world where everything is an ability. Spawning? You get an ability for that. Walking? Ability. Aiming? Ultimate Ability.

That is the world that Jeff Kaplan lives in every day. He's a monster who's bringing us down with him.

>>388221474
This is the only way that i can get off anymore.
My dick gets hard at this kind of posts.

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outsold on pc by an oevn

>>388237972
>all that hype and marketing for barely breaking 50k
I'm really surprised, I never thought that this game would make it far, but that it couldn't even go past 100k sales is so laughable

>>388227825
Have fun with another crap historical fps that makes you upset to play…[spoilers]oh wait cod already did that[/spoilers]

>>388238260
Funnily enough I actually don't give a shit that CoD isn't realistic, but I guess that much nuance actually makes your brain explode.
Have fun jumping into another thread, looking for somebody that you can unleash your "politics" on.

He is 100% correct Overwatch is for babies

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>>388227006
They are.

>>388216108
Like a cornered dog, lawbreakers begins lashing out trying to preserve what little dignity it has while it dies.

>>388216108
he is right but since I already play Dirty Bomb and Titamfall 2 I don't need another game in that niche.

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>>388239195
Dogs can't be cornered, for we are strong

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>>388227006
Heres most of themI think?
Stone lady got a pretty cute recolor
Edgy red hair girl has an amazing body
Pink fairy has a pretty good skin

>>388239617
titanfall 2 deserved to do better than it did
kind of regret making fun of its e3 ad

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>>388239943
Seris' thighs are a miracle

>>388240186
Lol look at those chimp feet, disgusting

>>388232862
this game reeks of battleborn 2
an average 6/10 game made by average developers that at least put some heart into the game, that's going to get shit on for the rest of time because everyone involved is retarded socially

>>388234014
>>get fewer views than a hi-rez video
Hi-rez videos often times get hundreds of thousands of views.

>>388216323
Wait, TF2 is an FPS? From what I understand it's just another gambling simulator and has been for years.

>>388226978
Randy must've been so confident in Battleborn.

>>388227829
>when they already had a thriving FPS. Tribes
Tribes never made them any money, why would they keep supporting it?

>>388227926
>triggered
Don't use words you don't know the meaning of, sweetie. Makes you look foolish :)

>>388220782
Hi-rez stated themselves. They'll leave the graphics polishing for later. What's more important now is balancing the game and its mechanics.
>>388226746
Probably does, but trust me it has a lot more to it than Overwatch. Oh look he's using Pharah? Let me switch to McCree. Oh no he used Hanzo, guess I'll have to go Widow now. See what I'm saying? Also, Paladins has loadouts and items which means if you and an enemy are using the same character it's not always a 50% chance of win.

>>388216108
Why are devs trying to go for the MOBA-FPS genre though?
Blizz completely took hold of that genre and everything that attempts to do the same type of game will only just look like a bootleg at best.

>>388216108
>somebody pressed a button that instantly kills your whole team

You're not supposed to run into the dragon

All Clint Bazinga had to do was not be a cuck. I actually think the game looks good.

>>388232347
>sub 0.25% of the population

>>388216978
>have to download through steam
>still requires a third party account
nah, none of these games are worth playing

This is going to be the new Battleborn, isn't it